Time Nick Message 00:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #323: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/323/ 00:01 jenkins_koha * tajoli: Bug 5462: Update of the italian sql files The bug is about strings that are used as variables by Template::Toolkit The strings need to be like valid perl variable names. To fix the bug we need to fix also .sql files. Others .sql files are OK. Italian .sql file needs this fix 00:01 jenkins_koha * frederick.capovilla: Bug 5867 : Improved the email checking when sending "Hold filled" notices. 00:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5462 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fix variable names so we dont break template::toolkit 00:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5867 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , "Hold filled" notice not sent by email if the user has its email address in a field other than "email" 01:33 jenkins_koha Starting build 14 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #14: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/14/ 02:14 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 2505: Suppress some warnings emitted by members-home.pl 02:14 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Revised fix for Bug 6133 - Authorised values administration, warn for modifs 02:14 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6573 - Library name entry field enforces unnecessary maxlength 02:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2505 major, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts 02:14 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 4994 - Net::LDAP returns lowercase names 02:14 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6577 - columns misaligned on serials search results 02:14 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for 6426 - messaging not showing on patron categories 02:14 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6570 - unlabeled box on funds form 02:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6133 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Authorised values administration, warn for modifs 02:14 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6586 - calendar showing the wrong event type when editing 02:14 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6587 - Tag moderation lost colors 02:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6573 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Library name entry field enforces unnecessary maxlength 02:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4994 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, ldap mapping inconsistancy: Net::LDAP returns lowercase names 02:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6577 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Columns misaligned on serials search results 02:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6570 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Unlabeled box on funds form 02:14 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4330] Copyright statements out of date <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4330> 02:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6586 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Calendar showing the wrong event type when editing 02:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6587 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Tag moderation lost colors 02:47 Brooke kia ora 02:48 rangi hi Brooke 02:48 Brooke :) 02:48 jransom hiya all 02:48 rangi oh look its jransom 02:48 Brooke fancy that 02:49 rangi and chrisdothall :) 02:49 chrisdothall hey rangi! 02:49 rangi chrisdothall: watcha doing on the 26th of july? 02:49 rangi back at uni by then? 02:49 chrisdothall celebrating the day after my birthday, why? 02:49 chrisdothall im back at uni now :( 02:50 rangi ah dang 02:50 rangi http://kete.library.org.nz/en/site/topics/show/216-nz-koha-users-group-meeting 02:50 Brooke skive off! 02:50 jransom yeah - taste real life! 02:50 Brooke if I can risk deportation to protest things, you can skive off to get to a meeting ;P 02:50 chrisdothall rangi: sadly I wont be able to make that :( 02:50 rangi heh 02:50 rangi ahh, next one ;) 02:52 chrisdothall if its not on a uni day, definitely :) 02:52 jransom so had an interesting half hour discussion with my daughter this morning about me going to Mumbai 02:52 druthb o/ 02:53 jransom and explaining how far away Thane was from Mumbai 02:53 jransom heya Ruth 02:53 Brooke aye 02:53 rangi heya druthb 02:53 jransom and how we will be on a campus - a local campus 02:53 Brooke and how they'll just target the Yank whore first? 02:53 jransom and staying in a local hotel in thane not a big USA corporate hotel chain in the financial district 02:53 jransom na - didn't say that out loud 02:54 jransom ;P 02:54 jransom :P 02:54 * Brooke yelps 02:54 druthb hi, jransom, Brooke, and rangi. :) 02:55 jransom 20 36 for the NZ Koha usert group meeting registered so far 02:55 jransom 20 = so 02:55 jransom (don't know why I typed 20 ..) 02:55 rangi cool 02:56 eythian I wonder if I'm registered. 02:56 eythian I'll be there, anyway 02:57 Brooke clearly I needs start swimming 02:57 jransom you are registered 02:57 jransom or detour via NZ to KohaCon11? 02:58 druthb loooong detour. 02:58 Brooke I would say that you people only let me on your soil for 3 months or so, but the maths works :P 02:59 jransom so 10 days for a Kiwi to get a visa for India 03:00 Brooke Indian visa? 03:00 wahanui Indian visa is multi entry Tourist Visa *wink wink* *nudge nudge* 03:00 jransom yes 03:01 Brooke didja mail it in? 03:01 jransom the tourist visa 03:01 jransom will do 03:01 Brooke sucker go in person :P 03:02 Brooke Friday? 03:02 wahanui Friday is garlic orgy day in france! ;) 03:02 Brooke wahanui forget Friday 03:02 wahanui Brooke: I forgot friday 03:03 Brooke wahanui friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday 03:03 wahanui OK, Brooke. 03:03 Brooke Friday? 03:03 wahanui Friday is probably It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday 03:03 druthb Brooke? 03:03 wahanui Brooke is deprecated 03:03 druthb talljoy? 03:03 wahanui hmmm... talljoy is magnificent! or tall. 03:03 Brooke botsnack wahanui sultana cake 03:03 druthb druthb? 03:03 wahanui you are probably gonna be out the week of July 18-22, and you won't see much of her for a couple of weeks after that. 03:03 Brooke wahanui botsnack sultana cake 03:03 wahanui thanks Brooke :) 03:06 druthb I was thinkin' of staying up and doing some things around here, but I don' think so. 03:06 Brooke screw it, it's Friday ;) 03:07 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1aBrJxQ7uQ <-- watch that instead 03:09 Brooke I've to uh slip you Christie singing Tunkashila if you like her voice. 03:10 druthb some powerful pipes on that lead contralt.....zowie. gorgeous. 03:10 * Brooke has been known to belt that in the car. 03:11 Brooke oh my, whippin' off the cloaks! What would Auntie say? 03:13 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SblTKIZoInI 03:17 Brooke http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-jane-austen/2011/07/08/gIQAZALCEI_story.html?hpid=z3 03:17 Brooke *cough* not that anyone reads that dross. 03:26 * druthb is headed to bed. Be well. 04:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5453 : Move declarations out of conditionals <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=306dc79217783ebd7896be64deee12491febc4d3> / Bug 5453 Move declarations out of conditionals <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5b71339f3e3dfd639609ecc4b6912435d29704b> / Bug 5453 Move declarations out of conditionals in opac <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit 04:03 eythian packages for 3.4.2 are out. Get 'em while they're hot. 04:03 Brooke eythian++ 04:03 jenkins_koha Starting build 324 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 04:03 Brooke apt get a lager for eythian 04:04 bg heh 04:04 * eythian doesn't like lagers, in general 04:04 bg apt-get a case for eythian 04:04 eythian a nice IPA is much more preferable ;) 04:04 Brooke fool! 04:04 bg eythian: agreed 04:04 Brooke you don't get him a case til you know what he drinks :P 04:04 * bg sticks to ales 04:04 Brooke mmmm 04:04 eythian yep, that's largely my policy. 04:05 Brooke Indian Pale Ale in India ftw 04:06 eythian I wonder if they still actually exist in India 04:06 ibeardslee hey .. where is my BOC email? 04:07 rangi i think they are still setting up, much harder for them to do on level 7 04:07 eythian ibeardslee: I see the beer room filling up with people 04:07 rangi altho i hear bottles opening 04:07 Brooke you are all horrible teases. 04:07 Space_Librarian ditto 04:07 rangi i best go investiage 04:07 Space_Librarian ditto. :) 04:07 rangi investigate too 04:07 ibeardslee yeh I think the sysadmin team had a team meeting that delayed the setup 04:07 eythian I can see 4 or 5 people 04:07 Space_Librarian where my meringues?! 04:07 eythian I'm waiting for the kc/master packages to build 04:12 ibeardslee yeah .. sorry while we were in the meeting room I was hungry 04:13 Space_Librarian meh. sub-par meringues. I have to settle for chip rolls. 04:13 Brooke /me starts drooling uncontrollably. 04:16 jransom ok back for real this time 04:17 * Space_Librarian goes back for another chip roll... 04:17 eythian jransom: but it's beer o'clock time 04:18 jransom if i was in wgtn i'd be drinking with you! 04:18 Space_Librarian indeed you would be! 04:23 jransom my daughter just bought me a splendid pirate hat for tomorrow's party! 04:23 Brooke duhrectors aren't allowed pirate hats :P 04:26 jransom oh yes 04:26 jransom my only sorry is that a sweeping ostrick feather is not to be found on the main street of levin for love nor money 04:26 jransom had mills out scouring ... 04:26 jransom brought me back a feather boa and said wrap wire around it! 04:26 eythian hey folks, squeeze-dev now contains a package built from master. 04:27 eythian Which means it's beer time now 04:27 Brooke cheers! 04:27 Brooke it is your solemn duty to drink at least one for me 04:27 Brooke rough lot, but someone needs do it 04:28 jransom and drink for me too :) 04:29 eythian I do have a 7:30am start tomorrow, you people! 04:36 Brooke on a Saturday? 04:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #324: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/324/ 04:47 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 5453 Do not declare variables in conditionals 04:47 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 5453: Move declarations out of conditionals 04:47 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 5453: Move declarations from within conditionals in catalogue/search.pl 04:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5453 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Variables declaration should not occur in conditionals 04:47 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 5453 Move declarations out of conditionals 04:47 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 5453 Move declarations out of conditionals in opac 04:47 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 5453 Move declarations out of conditionals 04:47 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 5453 : Move declarations out of conditionals 04:51 Brooke @seen kmkale 04:51 huginn Brooke: kmkale was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 1 day, 21 hours, 29 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <kmkale> bye slef and thanks 04:53 jransom can anyone help with a friday aftewrnoon sql query? 04:54 Space_Librarian jransom: I was about to offer to go pull rangi from his beer for you. 04:54 jransom not that urgently - stdc need help 04:54 Space_Librarian and it's not in the wiki? 04:55 jransom no - not getting what i want 04:55 Space_Librarian hrmmm 04:55 jransom what they want ... 04:55 jransom stdc 04:56 Space_Librarian yep. pondering bugging rangi. 04:56 Space_Librarian it's not 5pm yet. :p 04:56 Brooke try here first? 04:56 Brooke http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 04:56 Space_Librarian Brooke: that's what i asked 04:56 Brooke doh 04:57 Brooke I'd tell ye to pester Nora, but she's not up this hour, I think. 04:57 jransom yeah - thetyyh want a report detailing all outstanding amounts owing , and grouped by corrower category 04:58 jransom stdc are not allowed access to irc!!! 04:58 Space_Librarian what?! 04:58 * Space_Librarian is surprised 04:58 Brooke Bolshevism! ;) 04:59 jransom yep - they wwere allowed for go live week only 04:59 Space_Librarian I have espied eythian... 04:59 Space_Librarian and food. I will go query. 05:00 jransom really - he will be grumpy 05:00 Space_Librarian yep. i decided against it 05:01 jransom good call 05:01 Space_Librarian can they send an email to the list? 05:01 jransom yup 05:01 Space_Librarian they'll have something by Monday that way. 05:01 Space_Librarian Or tomorrow. 05:01 wahanui tomorrow is pizza friday! 05:01 Space_Librarian hopefully 05:02 Space_Librarian eythian recommends the email the list approach. Accounts are tricky 05:03 jransom excellent 05:03 jransom Brooke has suggested a scrtipt that Nicole wrote 05:03 jransom thanks 05:04 jransom how the hell she is meant to do herjob without the intrerenet ./ irc / twitter is hard to imagine 05:05 Space_Librarian jransom: I agree 05:05 Space_Librarian chrisdothall long time no see 05:05 Brooke I could see that in a prison setting 05:05 chrisdothall hey Space_Librarian :) I have been lurking here on and off 05:06 Space_Librarian how's things? good? :) 05:07 chrisdothall I have been diagnosed with OOS in my wrists, but they are getting better :) How are things on your end? 05:08 Space_Librarian Ah, the joys of too long in frnot of a keyboard. Things are on the up and up. If you had time of the 26th, I'd be suggesting you come up to levin for the unconference. 05:08 chrisdothall yeah, and bad mouse habits haha. 05:08 * Space_Librarian has a trackball mouse now due to oos 05:08 chrisdothall rangi mentioned that before when I logged in, sadly I have university that day and I have to go as it is a marked lab 05:09 * chrisdothall also uses a trackball now :p 05:09 Space_Librarian trackball rocks. 05:09 Space_Librarian yeah, marked labs are a pain. 05:09 chrisdothall Im also in the process of 'making' a split keyboard so when I type my wrists will be more seperated. 05:09 chrisdothall although I often tense my arm while using the trackball, but im working on it :p 05:10 Space_Librarian got one of those as well. Helps greatly 05:10 chrisdothall you have a split keyboard? :o 05:10 Space_Librarian I do. 05:10 * chrisdothall is very jealous 05:11 Space_Librarian if you go through disabilities at uni, they should issue you with one. 05:11 Space_Librarian they are required to if you're diagnosed with oos 05:11 Space_Librarian and offer you voice recognition software 05:11 * chrisdothall wasnt aware of such 05:13 Brooke make sure the stupid little clicky feet are off 05:14 Brooke basically the trick is to sit higher than you type 05:14 chrisdothall yeah, for a while I had a really bad chair with a back that offered next to no support 05:14 Space_Librarian that never helps 05:14 Brooke get a yoga ball 05:14 Brooke they ROCK 05:14 chrisdothall my current chair is still a little lower than I would have liked, so I will be looking into that aswell 05:15 chrisdothall I bought some off 1day, but they ended up being lost by the courier >.> 05:15 chrisdothall I do wonder how they would work out with no back support and all 05:15 Brooke have you considered beating your courier? 05:15 Space_Librarian not cool 05:15 Brooke I was surprised with mine 05:15 Space_Librarian i never found a swiss ball to help me 05:15 Brooke I can go about 2-3 hours 05:15 Brooke then I've to get up 05:16 Brooke but I should be up by then anyhow 05:16 chrisdothall which is good in itself. 05:16 chrisdothall yeah the courier delivered to the wrong numbered house, on an entirely different street, in a different suburb.... 05:16 Brooke ha! 05:16 chrisdothall then when they went to retreive it, no one was home for weeks on end. I suspect they fled the country with my 2 yoga balls... 05:17 Brooke ha! 05:17 Brooke when I used to live in the ghetto 05:17 chrisdothall Space_Librarian: so did you try a swiss ball then? 05:17 Brooke I more often than not picked stuff up at the depot. 05:18 Space_Librarian I've tried everything. 05:18 Space_Librarian even those weird kneeling chairs 05:18 Brooke including a standing desk? 05:18 chrisdothall I dont know if they let you just march in, unless they miss the delivery the first time that is. 05:18 Space_Librarian never had that option, Brooke 05:18 chrisdothall I am interested in a standing desk, seems very tiring though. 05:18 Brooke cookies are the solution to everything Chris ;) 05:18 chrisdothall cookies? haha 05:19 chrisdothall march in with a jar, offer to trade for package> 05:19 Brooke now you're on the trolley. 05:19 chrisdothall haha 05:19 Brooke even works on the FBI 05:19 Brooke hey, I have this greasy bag with me and I'd like to see so and so. Clearly I belong here. 05:20 * Brooke used to make a killing as a delivery driver. 06:08 cait morning #koha 06:09 cait hi hdl and chrisdothall :) 06:09 chrisdothall hey cait :) 06:09 cait nice to see you are back :) 06:10 hdl hi chrisdothall and cait 06:10 hdl and all 06:11 chrisdothall hey :) 06:40 reiveune hello 06:47 * rangi waves 07:16 julian hello #koha 07:23 kf hi #koha 07:24 BobB Hi kf 07:24 BobB Starting work for the day? 07:28 kf hi BobB - yes :) 07:28 BobB Just on time to finish here. :) 07:35 kf greetings to Irma :) 07:36 kf Oak 07:36 Oak kf 07:36 Oak hello #koha 07:43 kf @wunder Konstanz 07:43 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.3�C (9:40 AM CEST on July 15, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady). 07:44 Oak @wunder islamabad 07:44 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 31.0�C (12:00 PM PKT on July 15, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). 07:44 kf big difference 07:44 Oak yup 10:08 kf morning druthb :) 10:09 druthb o/ 10:28 SitHa Hello, everybody 10:29 SitHa I am wondering how to interface Koha and Drupal. I googled a bit but didn't find anything precise. Could someone please help ? 10:35 SitHa Just a link would be great. 10:59 kf SitHa: do you mean Sopac? 11:29 SitHa kf: not sure. Is that the only way ? 11:33 jenkins_koha Starting build 15 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 11:37 slef hi all 11:39 SitHa hi slef 11:44 kf SitHa: not sure too - but I think sopac is a drubal thing - so thought about it when you mentioned it 11:44 kf hi slef 11:44 kf I think I killed my koha dev installation at work 11:44 kf someone an idea about: Can't locate LWP/UserAgent.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/koha/kohaclone /etc/perl /usr/local? 11:47 kf will poke around a bit more 11:58 kf missing package - works now :) 11:58 kf hi Guillaume and JesseM :) 11:59 JesseM Hi kf! 12:06 SitHa okkf, thanks 12:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #15: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/15/ 12:13 jenkins_koha robin: Bug 6361 - make the packages work with koha 3.4 12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6361 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Packages need support for the 3.4 upgrade 12:56 * Oak waves 15:05 reiveune bye 15:10 library_systems_guy1 morning Koha 15:10 sekjal morning, library_systems_guy1 15:13 library_systems_guy1 grr that one...i must still be signed in at home 15:15 library_systems_guy1 sekjal have you been working on hourly loans at all? 15:15 library_systems_guy1 i tried to check out colins branch last night without much success 15:15 rhcl its AM libsysguy and sekjal 15:16 library_systems_guy1 rhcl: that is totally what I should change my name to 15:16 library_systems_guy1 brb... 15:18 * libsysguy feels like a new man 15:18 sekjal libsysguy: ByWater is working with Catalyst on Hourly Loans, but I haven't gotten down to testing the code just yet 15:19 libsysguy do you have a branch that we could pull to "assist" with testing? 15:20 libsysguy our circulation librarian is going to spontaneously combust if she has to do reserves by hand 15:27 sekjal libsysguy: have you looked here: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/bug_5549 15:29 sekjal the "depends on" bugs linked off of bug 5549 contain the incremental patches required to build a branch on your local machine 15:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans 15:30 libsysguy ahh i gotcha 15:41 kf sekjal: have you looked at colin's branch? I wonder how hard it will be to get both together 15:41 sekjal kf: haven't checked it yet, no 15:41 kf k 15:45 kf I was looking at bug 2453 15:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2453 critical, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , (very) large biblio/item handling 15:45 kf can this be closed? 15:48 sekjal I think so... if you use -x on the rebuild_zebra.pl script, it should work fine 15:49 gmcharlt yes 15:49 kf gmcharlt: cool :) 15:50 kf one bug less - good time to start the weekend :) 15:50 gmcharlt there is one more potential improvement that could be made, namely tweaking how the marcxml blobs are handled by C4::Search so that we grab the current item information from mysql rather than zebra when rendering search results 15:50 gmcharlt but that can certainly be the topic of a separate bug 15:51 kf I will add tehe chat to the bug and close it 15:53 slef is it documented that -x is needed for large handling? Should -x be the default cronjob? 16:01 kf bye all :) 16:08 rhcl ping wizzyrea 16:16 sekjal hey, all, soliciting opinions about bug 6483 16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search 16:16 sekjal I think it should be an opt-in, syspref controlled feature. there are other opinions noted on the ticket 16:17 sekjal wanted to see if anyone hear cared to comment, too 16:17 sekjal s/hear/here/ 16:18 oleonard sekjal: I think if you can picture your customers howling about this being added without their consent then it needs a pref 16:19 oleonard On the other hand, it's the kind of thing that could easily be hidden by CSS pending the addition of a pref 16:20 sekjal I think the primary debate now is not so much whether is should be syspref controlled, as whether the initial patch should include that before being committed 16:21 rhcl Senior Staff here agree its a good feature (pagination), but have no input on implementation. We would even say it should be opt-out. 16:22 oleonard I defer to the judgement of those with customers on this one. I wouldn't object to it being added without a syspref initially. 16:24 jcamins_away I think that it would be reasonable to use CSS for hiding it, in the rare situations where it needs to be hidden. 16:25 sekjal okay, so if the bug report can be updated with the CSS string needed to hide this feature, should anyone desire, then I think it can be pushed through QA 16:25 sekjal and a separate bug report filed for the syspref 16:26 sekjal which will be "opt-out", since the initial default behavior was to show 16:27 sekjal would hate to get people dependent on it, then have it disappear when they upgraded 16:27 * oleonard thinks of all those library patrons with the shakes 16:28 jcamins_away sekjal: has anyone said they *didn't* want the feature? I'm having trouble imagining where one might want to disable it. 16:29 sekjal jcamins_away: I've only heard it asked for, but I can imagine there being SOMEONE out there who would prefer to leave it out. 16:30 sekjal oooh, and another enhancement idea: keyboard shortcuts to the "next" and "prev" links 16:30 oleonard .nav_results { display: none; } 16:30 sekjal awesome 16:35 jcamins_away I'm glad I have my air conditioning set to 78. 16:36 jcamins If I had it set to something else, perhaps it would turn on and cool the room from 84. 16:39 magnuse kia ora #koha 16:56 rhcl hi magnuse 17:01 rhcl humm, another symphony goes koha 17:01 libsysguy oo oo who? 17:02 rhcl Plum Creek Library - just popped up on the Koha list 17:06 libsysguy rhcl: where is that list? 17:06 libsysguy im just curious 17:08 rhcl koha@lists.katipo.co.nz 17:08 libsysguy doh 17:09 libsysguy i thought it was like a list on koha-community.org 17:09 libsysguy silly me 17:19 magnuse libsysguy: closest you get is this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Users_Worldwide 17:20 magnuse and hi rhcl :-) 17:52 cait hi #koha 17:52 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6590] Removing hyphens from isbn and issn when cataloging a biblio <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6590> 17:52 magnuse guten abend cait 17:53 cait hi magnuse :) 18:12 magnuse o/ 18:13 druthb o/ 18:14 oleonard-away |-o-| 18:14 magnuse ooh, tie-fighter? 18:15 sekjal <-o-> 18:15 druthb \o/ 18:16 * druthb runs away from Darth Sekjal 18:17 * cait tries to remember the model name 18:19 magnuse sekjal: if you ever have the time, could you have a look at bug 6537 to see if my methodology is "not unsound"? i don't want to spend time doing the missing (routine) bits if you can say just by looking at it that it will not pass qa... 18:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, P5, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer 18:20 sekjal cait: TIE Advanced x1 18:21 * cait nods 18:25 sekjal magnuse: reading RFC now 18:25 magnuse sekjal: yay! 18:26 sekjal so, it looks like the plan is to make a single, master sysprefs file, and then language-specific SQL files that change any text to match the language, or default values to match common practices for the region most likely to install that language 18:26 sekjal this would greatly simplify the process of adding a new system preference. 18:27 sekjal and since the preferences editor's text is now based off the .pref files instead of the descriptions in the DB (except for Local Use sysprefs), that would be translated automatically when running the .po files 18:27 magnuse yeah, that sounds like a good description 18:27 * cait thinks magnuse is a genius 18:28 * druthb agrees. 18:29 sekjal and within the different language directories, we could subdivide further to have different "change" files for public libraries, academic libraries, consortia, etc. 18:29 magnuse yup 18:29 * magnuse blushes 18:30 sekjal very cool. the end result would simplify life for developers, and make it clearer for those installing the software what they're getting as default preference values 18:32 cait and enable us to have different easy to maintain sets for library types :) 18:32 cait I love the idea :) 18:33 sekjal yeah, I'm all for 18:33 magnuse cool! 18:33 sekjal we can't quite remove the explanation or options columns yet until we completely remove the old syspref editor 18:34 sekjal that's still lingering until we can think of a way to add in Local Use sysprefs 18:34 sekjal but I've got an idea for that 18:34 magnuse what i'm most worried about is this bit: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=4525 - making the web installer pick up the default syspref.sql - it works but i'm unsure if there is some better way to accomplish it... 18:35 magnuse ok, i wont change the database structure (yay, less work for me!) 18:37 magnuse thanks for having a look sekjal, i'll slog through the tedious bits now before i submit a full patch, hopefully in the next couple days 18:38 sekjal magnuse: what you're doing in attachment 4525 is how it's done for loading kohastructure.sql, so I think that's the right way (would be consistent, if anything) 18:38 huginn 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=4525&action=edit patch, Proof-of-concept patch 2/3, 0002-Bug-6537-Make-the-web-installer-use-installer-data-m.patch 18:39 magnuse sekjal: cool, thanks 18:39 sekjal np :) 18:39 magnuse hey, i didn't know you could get huginn to that... 18:41 cait sekjal++ magnuse++ 18:41 magnuse sekjal++ 18:42 sekjal magnuse++ (you're the one doing the work) 18:44 magnuse yay 18:52 magnuse sekjal: you took the time to do an "early assessment" ;-) 18:55 sekjal :) 18:56 * oleonard shouts Attachment 3 ! 18:56 huginn 03Attachment 3 was not found or is not accessible. 18:56 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 18:56 * oleonard shouts Attachment 3236 ! 18:56 huginn 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=3236&action=edit patch, Proposed patch, 0001-Fixing-problems-with-quotes-when-constructing-z3950-.patch 18:57 * magnuse whispers attachment 4540 18:57 huginn 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=4540&action=edit patch, Patch (functionality), patch.txt 18:58 magnuse see, you don't have to shout ;-) 18:58 sekjal switching mental gears: what would folks say about indexing every single MARC field and subfield into their own searchable indexes, in addition to what we've already got? 18:58 sekjal so if you specifically want 690$f, you can search for it 18:59 * magnuse thinks that sounds intriguing... 18:59 magnuse 2.2.9 had that 18:59 sekjal we've got several partners who want to index some of the "local use" fields in MARC, and there isn't any good way to do that right now with mucking in zebra config files 19:00 sekjal but if we could provide a "back door" to access any given MARC field, that would go a long way towards helping with those kinds of local needs 19:00 cait hm, think it would need a lot of disk space probably 19:00 sekjal hmmm, yes 19:00 cait the indexes get vey big right not 19:00 cait now 19:00 cait not that I don't like the idea :) 19:00 cait I do like it 19:00 sekjal and if someone wanted 590$a and 591$a into the same index, that wouldn't work 19:01 cait I think dom indexing was talked abou too? 19:01 cait and rewriting Search.pm 19:01 sekjal cait: yes, we're moving forward getting DOM indexing for biblios 19:01 cait ... lots of unused potential 19:01 cait oh cool :) 19:01 magnuse yeah, the overhead of it would be one thing to worry about... 19:01 sekjal still have some details to nail down, but we've got committed funding 19:02 cait whoohoo 19:02 magnuse yay 19:02 cait sekjal: I was once told that authority integration into search would be doable with dom indexing (long long ago so I might not remember correctly) 19:02 cait is that part of the plans? 19:02 sekjal cait: integration how? 19:03 cait what people are used to here is that you search for one writing form of tschaikowsky and all turn up 19:03 sekjal one thing we're looking to do is be able to match biblio fields to authorities based on the text in the biblio field itself, not a control number in $9 19:03 cait using the see also and see forms from the uathorities 19:03 cait to expand search I think - or perhaps look it up in authorities and use the id for searching 19:03 cait hm, I think the text is not good 19:04 sekjal I think what you're talking about will indeed be possible. I'll see if it can be worked into the spec 19:04 sekjal I'd REALLY like to see that, as would some of our partners 19:04 cait standard would be $0 instead of $9 19:05 cait but I know our situation is special 19:05 cait we get all authorities from the union catalog and natonal databases 19:05 cait all nice linked together using id numbers 19:06 cait but that's a discussion I had with jcamins before :) 19:07 sekjal the order of the subfields in, say, MARC21's 650, should be enough to uniquely determine which authority to connect it to, right? 19:07 cait hm not always 19:07 cait take müller or smith 19:08 cait I mean what do you do when it's the same name 19:08 cait or is informaton like profession and dates also stored in the heading? 19:09 jcamins cait: if only we all used subject headings like the DNB's! 19:09 cait um 19:10 jcamins Not the Dictionary of National Biography. 19:10 cait not sure I know enough abou it 19:10 jcamins I had it right. Deutsche Nationale Bibliothek. :) 19:10 jcamins However it's spelled. 19:11 jcamins Sorry. My German spelling is atrocious. 19:11 cait it's only the model I am used to 19:11 jcamins I know. 19:11 jcamins And I'm jealous. 19:11 rhcl so suppose somebody added a small solid state drive (32 gig or something) to a Koha server. Would it be possible to direct indexing to that from within Koha? (Suspect a hard wire coding would be bad design) 19:12 cait jcamins: so you are not making fun of me? 19:12 jcamins cait: no. 19:12 jcamins I'm saying, if only everyone had subject headings like the DNB's, we wouldn't have this problem. 19:13 jcamins (not that the German model is perfect, mind you, but at least it's designed with computers in mind) 19:13 magnuse sounds like a good start... 19:15 jcamins Ack! Meeting in fifteen minutes! I got distracted working on a response to sekjal's e-mail. 19:15 cait yes, I am sure it has flaws too. but I don't mind much how we improve the current situaton - as long as it doesn't break it for us :P 19:16 jcamins sekjal: capsule summary: includes are expensive, from my point of view. Better to do something like with the MARC21 auth DOM configuration, and add a helper script to the packages. 19:16 jcamins Bye! 19:17 jcamins_away sekjal: that's for DOM. 19:17 jcamins_away Includes are broken for GRS-1. 19:18 jcamins_away sekjal: at least, they were broken a year ago. 19:21 cait includes? 19:21 wahanui includes are broken for GRS-1. 19:21 * druthb pokes wahanui in the ribs. 19:22 magnuse heh 19:26 cait includes = the thing I want for authorities? 19:29 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5436] Extended patron attributes display improvements <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5436> 19:35 jcamins_away cait, no, sorry, that's in response to sekhal's email. 19:35 libsysguy sekjal you around? 19:36 sekjal libsysguy: one moment, in a meeting 19:36 libsysguy you got it 19:37 cait going by libsysguy permanently now? :) 19:37 libsysguy yeah but only so nengard will talk to me 19:37 libsysguy lol 19:39 slef wizzyrea: "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2171771 bytes) in /home/koha-community/public_html/wp-includes/functions.php on line 1038" 19:39 slef happens fairly consistently :( 19:40 slef @seen wizzyrea 19:40 huginn slef: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 40 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> farewell for now friends 19:41 slef @later tell wizzyrea "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2171771 bytes) in /home/koha-community/public_html/wp-includes/functions.php on line 1038" - happens fairly consistently :( 19:41 huginn slef: The operation succeeded. 19:41 slef thanks huginn 20:13 rhcl ping gmcharlt 21:16 jcamins sekjal: what I was trying to get at earlier is that apply-templates is better than call-template, and the fewer templates there are that match a given element, the fewer traversals are necessary. 21:21 cait good night all 21:42 libsysguy can somebody tell me how to apply the patches from bug 5549 here: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/bug_5549 21:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans 21:44 libsysguy I realized that was a poorly constructed sentence so if it was confusing just let me know 21:44 jcamins libsysguy: fetch that branch, then cherry-pick the patches you want. 21:45 libsysguy ok so for a git newb, how do i fetch a branch? 21:48 magnuse http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-remote.html 21:49 libsysguy git never ceases to amaze me 21:49 magnuse something like: git remote add catalyst git://git.catalyst.net.nz/koha.git 21:49 magnuse git++ 21:50 libsysguy indeed g++ magnuse++ 21:50 magnuse not sure about the cherry picking, though... jcamins? 21:50 magnuse http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-cherry-pick.html 21:51 jcamins git log catalyst/bug_5549 21:51 jcamins (identify the patches you want) 21:51 jcamins git cherry-pick ${THOSE_PATCHES} 21:51 libsysguy wow...i never would have thought cherry pick would have been an actual command 21:53 magnuse hehe 21:54 libsysguy ok guys...time to hit the gym...thanks for the tips 21:54 libsysguy jcamins++ also :D 21:55 libsysguy later #Koha