Time Nick Message 00:04 Phlunk3 tx heaps rangi :) now roll on school holidays so I can try the upgrade. 00:04 rangi heh :) 00:05 bg NateC? 00:06 bg does wahanui do that question mark stuff still 00:07 rangi normally, if he knows 00:07 rangi wahanui: marc? 00:07 wahanui somebody said marc was the standard that isn't 00:07 rangi marc? 00:07 wahanui i think marc is the standard that isn't 00:11 rangi nice day 00:11 wahanui you betcha rangi 00:11 rangi natec 00:11 rangi natec? 00:11 wahanui I LIKE SPACE! 00:11 bg SWEET 00:12 bg NateC? 00:12 wahanui I LIKE SPACE! 00:12 bg yeah!!! 00:12 bg NateC? 00:12 rangi heh 00:12 wahanui I LIKE SPACE! 00:12 JesseM I LIKE SPACE!!!! 00:13 bg LOL 00:13 bg I can't wait for NateC to join the channel tomorrow 00:13 JesseM I LIKE TURTLES 00:13 rangi I LIKE SPACE!? 00:14 Space_Librarian Did somebody say Space? 00:14 Space_Librarian As in, The Final Frontier? 00:14 rangi hehe no, nate was interviewed for tv about the final shuttle launch 00:15 rangi and that was the line he came up with (amongst others) 00:15 bg Space_Librarian: I betcha you like space 00:15 bg Space_Librarian? 00:15 wahanui Space_Librarian is a Koha poet or the sweetest lil lady you'll ever know 00:15 bg awwhhh 00:15 Space_Librarian lol. 00:16 rangi Space_Librarian also likes space 00:16 Space_Librarian I catalogue clouds. 00:16 bg heh 00:16 rangi Space_Librarian? 00:16 wahanui i heard Space_Librarian was a Koha poet or the sweetest lil lady you'll ever know 00:16 rangi hmmm 00:16 bg bg? 00:16 wahanui rumour has it bg is the awesomest boss....no, really, I mean it 00:16 bg wahanui: that means too much paperwork for me -- 00:16 Space_Librarian I do like space... and science fiction, and Tolkien... 00:17 bg yeah Tolkein 00:17 JesseM I agree wahanui 00:17 JesseM bg is a great boss 00:17 * bg is rereading the hobbit it now - getting ready for the movie :) 00:18 Space_Librarian you've seen the images bein released? 00:18 rangi Space_Librarian: you know that bg and nate named their company after a place in middle earth eh? 00:18 Space_Librarian being* 00:18 Space_Librarian I did. 00:18 Space_Librarian It was kind of obvious. 00:18 Space_Librarian :p 00:18 rangi :) 00:18 Space_Librarian And really awesome. 00:18 bg I have - looks really cool 00:18 bg I've only seen one production video though - I'd like to see more 00:18 ibeardslee Tolkien++ 00:18 Space_Librarian yes 00:19 Space_Librarian I Don't think PJ has put out any more 00:19 Space_Librarian the're all on filming break 00:19 bg ahhh... then there is no better time to whip one together ;) 00:19 * Space_Librarian knows some of the crew 00:19 bg cool 00:20 * bg would love to be part of that crew 00:20 bg just seems like it's a blast (long working days - but a blast) 00:21 ibeardslee a couple of the guys I shoot with have been working insane hours on the graphics side of things 00:22 bg shoot? 00:22 bg what kind of shoot? 00:23 ibeardslee http://www.msc.org.nz/ 00:23 bg ah paintball 00:23 bg that's fun 00:23 ibeardslee .. milsim 00:23 ibeardslee not exactly paintball 00:24 bg ah watching the video now 00:25 ibeardslee http://www.msc.org.nz/node/372 00:26 bg looks pretty intense 00:27 ibeardslee it can be 00:28 ibeardslee some games can go through less than 1 mag (20 rounds) others .. I think the most I have gone through in a day has been 11 mags 00:28 bg damn 00:30 ibeardslee I normally carry 6 with a bunch of speedloaders 00:43 bg remind me to wear kevlar when I visit the catalyst floors 00:43 bg ;) 00:45 rangi heh 00:45 rangi thats how we got the high schools to submit unit tests 01:01 bg @wunder 93109 01:01 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 21.1�C (6:01 PM PDT on July 13, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Steady). 01:02 rangi @wunder wellington nz 01:02 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (12:00 PM NZST on July 14, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady). 01:59 druthb o/ 01:59 bg heya druthb 01:59 bg \o/ 01:59 bg that's the unibrowed monster who's got half a smile 02:00 bg sorry unibrowed cyclops 02:00 druthb \o 02:01 bg druthb: check this out 02:01 bg NateC? 02:01 wahanui I LIKE SPACE! 02:02 Space_Librarian hahaha 02:03 druthb rofl 02:04 bg yeah I thought you'd like that one 03:17 Brooke 0/ 03:19 bg hey Brooke 03:19 Brooke ahoy hoy 03:19 bg NateC? 03:19 wahanui I LIKE SPACE! 03:19 Brooke roflmao 03:19 Brooke brendan? 03:19 wahanui brendan is with his family 03:20 Brooke bg? 03:20 wahanui i guess bg is the awesomest boss....no, really, I mean it. 03:20 bg Brooke? 03:20 wahanui Brooke is deprecated 03:20 Brooke wahanui botsnack sultana cake 03:20 wahanui :) 03:25 Phlunk3 whats the bot actually returning on your name? requests? lol 03:25 Brooke silly things wot we programme it to say 03:26 Phlunk3 ahh ;) thought it might have been making some silly things itself, much more interesting ;) 03:26 Brooke nah when computers start doing things themselves, bad things tend to happen. 03:26 Phlunk3 when computers do what people tell them bad things happen quite a lot also 03:27 Brooke true but the alternative is our utter annihilation at the hands of our robot overlords when the time lord isn't looking. 03:28 Brooke so it is key that fleshlings suck less. 03:33 druthb hi, Brooke! 03:33 Brooke hey babe 03:53 Brooke 0/ 04:45 Judit hi 04:45 wahanui privet, Judit 05:15 mtj hiya Judit 05:18 Irma bonjour mtj 05:18 Irma how are you? 05:20 mtj heya, hmm pretty good over here... 05:21 mtj still chipping away at work stuff here 'n there.. 05:33 mtj Irma: how was your malaysia experience? 06:40 marcelr morning all 06:43 rangi hi marcelr 07:08 rangi https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/ppa 07:15 kf morning all 07:15 Oak kf 07:16 marcelr hi kf 07:17 kf Oak, hi marcelr 07:17 kf i have seen your patch for the bib level index 07:18 kf wondered if you are planning to build a feature on it :) 07:18 marcelr kf: at first i tracked some errors with it 07:19 * kf nods 08:46 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5662] Show control number without organization code in OPAC URLs <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5662> 08:59 kf marcelr: looking at your patch! 09:03 kf marcelr: great improvement 09:20 marcelr kf: thanks 09:20 kf and great to see someone else is making use of the feature 10:06 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5663] Show control number without organization code in staff URLs <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5663> 12:48 oleonard Hey, wahanui is back. 12:49 oleonard Whassup wahanui ? 12:52 kf wahanui? 12:52 wahanui kf? 12:52 kf :) 12:52 kf wahanui botsnack lots of cookies 12:52 wahanui :) 12:53 kf oleonard? 12:53 wahanui oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler 12:54 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6587] Tag moderation lost colors <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6587> 13:40 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6586] Calendar showing the wrong event type when editing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6586> 14:05 oleonard Hi nengard 14:05 nengard hiya 14:05 nengard can you tell that i was training last week? :) all the bug reports 14:06 oleonard some good easy ones and some good puzzles, from my perspective 14:06 nengard i mean this week ... oh boy i'm all screwy 14:08 wizzyrea mornin 14:09 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 14:09 wizzyrea mornin oleonard :) 14:12 bg NateC? 14:12 wahanui I LIKE SPACE! 14:12 wizzyrea ROFL 14:13 wizzyrea bg++ that's funny 14:13 bg yeah rangi set that up last night 14:13 * oleonard gives NateC plenty of space 14:13 wizzyrea rangi++ 14:13 bg NateC? 14:13 wahanui I LIKE SPACE! 14:14 bg heh I like that 14:14 sekjal lolz 14:35 nengard oleonard thanks for the patches! I have signed off on them 14:36 oleonard You bet. Thanks for the sign-offs. 14:37 kf oleonard++ nengard++ :) 14:37 nengard :) 14:38 druthb talljoy? 14:38 wahanui talljoy is, like, magnificent 14:38 jcamins_away thd++ 14:39 jcamins_away tumer++ 14:39 druthb wahanui: talljoy is also tall. 14:39 wahanui okay, druthb. 14:39 jcamins_away Good morning, #koha 14:39 druthb talljoy? 14:39 wahanui talljoy is, like, magnificent! or tall 14:39 * talljoy blushes 14:40 oleonard Everything I know about talljoy I learned from wahanui 14:41 talljoy i hear she is brilliant, that wahanui 14:41 druthb wahanui: Brooke? 14:41 wahanui Brooke is deprecated 14:41 druthb lol 14:41 druthb wahanui: druthb? 14:41 wahanui somebody said druthb was Brooke's sugar mama! 14:41 * druthb rolls her eyes. 14:41 talljoy lol 14:42 druthb wahanui: forget druthb 14:42 wahanui druthb: I forgot druthb 14:42 oleonard Hmmm... I'm not sure we should be allowed to tell wahanui to forget ourselves. 14:42 druthb wahanui: druthb is gonna be out the week of July 18-22, and you won't see much of her for a couple of weeks after that. 14:42 wahanui OK, druthb. 14:42 talljoy druthb? 14:42 wahanui druthb is gonna be out the week of July 18-22, and you won't see much of her for a couple of weeks after that. 14:52 * oleonard is now tempted to give wahanui detailed updates about his daily schedule by the hour 14:52 nengard hehe 14:53 wizzyrea aha 14:53 wizzyrea http://lifehacker.com/5821147/the-bheestie-bag-dries-out-your-gadgets-saves-them-from-water-damage 14:53 wizzyrea raise your hand if you've ever dropped your phone somewhere unfortunate 14:53 * wizzyrea raises hand 14:53 * druthb raises hand 14:54 oleonard I think the driveway is unfortunate enough, so I'm grateful it hasn't been worse. 14:54 wizzyrea ooo ouch 14:54 * oleonard knocks on wood 14:54 Agent_Dani I've never done that but my wife managed an interesting way to get her phone soaked. 14:54 wizzyrea one of my librarians spilled juice on her netbook 14:54 wizzyrea we told her to take the battery out and put it through the dishwasher with no soap 14:54 wizzyrea 6 weeks later it was working again. 14:54 slef coffee drinks for laptops is a favourite 14:55 Agent_Dani It was in the little zipped pouch on top of her tank bag when we were returning from vacation last year. We got caught in a downpour. 14:55 Agent_Dani Turns out the top of that pocket isn't water resistant but the bottom will sure hold water. 14:55 wizzyrea oh no 14:55 slef I know a DD who sent his laptop back as a warranty repair after vomitting into it. AIUI they gave him a new laptop and didn't mention the problem. 14:56 slef AIUI? 14:56 slef hrm, wahanui? 14:56 wahanui slef: excuse me? 14:56 slef wahanui: AIUI? 14:56 wahanui slef: i haven't a clue 14:56 slef wahanui: AIUI is As I Understand It 14:56 wahanui OK, slef. 14:56 slef wahanui: DD is Debian Developer 14:56 wahanui OK, slef. 14:56 * oleonard didn't know that one 14:56 Agent_Dani When we found a spot to pull off and get our rain gear on we discovered her Droid laying in about an ounce of water. It didn't work then but drying out and a hard reset got it working again. 14:57 slef wahanui: PUBFOOD? 14:57 wahanui PUBFOOD is probably universally bastardised, f'd-over or destroyed 14:57 Agent_Dani That's a good one. :) 14:57 oleonard Is PUBFOOD a complex acronym, or shouted? 14:58 * wizzyrea thinks of it as buffalo wings. 14:58 wizzyrea or fish and chips 14:58 oleonard Or cheesy jalapeno poppers with buffalo sauce and a blooming onion on the side? 14:59 * wizzyrea has a heart attack 14:59 Agent_Dani I see you've revived. 14:59 talljoy anyone have velcro? 15:00 wizzyrea that was humorous, but unintended >.> 15:01 Agent_Dani talljoy: for that purpose, I'll loan the two velcro straps on my office chair. 15:08 nengard bug 6588 was just reported and is a big issue that i'm thinking we might not have an easy solution to 15:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6588 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , merging records loses item records! 15:09 nengard so i wanted to bring it to everyone's attention 15:09 nengard with the removal of the 952 we now can't merge records because the items are lost 15:09 wizzyrea !!!! 15:09 nengard see my video 15:09 wizzyrea yes that's Very Bad(tm) 15:09 nengard tell me i'm wrong (really - i hope i'm wrong) 15:11 nengard okay, the items do merge ... 15:11 nengard but it's deceiving 15:12 wizzyrea you mean because it doesn't show the 952's in the display 15:12 wizzyrea I was just about to ask that 15:12 wizzyrea because you didn't actually do the merge in the video :P 15:12 nengard i didn't want to 15:12 nengard i was scared i'd lose my info 15:12 nengard so i was creating some crap records to test with just now 15:13 nengard i have my real home collection in my Koha :) 15:16 slef "Viewing this content requires Adobe Flash Player". Oh well. Does no-one upload real video files any more? 15:18 nengard not when i'm doing a quick video for a ticket i don't 15:18 nengard but for my tutorial videos i do 15:22 oleonard slef, do you know of good screencast recording software that doesn't output flash? 15:23 nengard it's not open source, but the one i use for the tutorial videos is screenflow 15:23 slef oleonard: I can play flv, if the site bothers to link it. 15:23 wizzyrea screencast does do other formats, but you have to pay for it (rightfully) 15:23 slef I think the problem isn't the recorder, but the naff playback sites. 15:23 nengard yeah - that's why i pay for the software i use 15:24 slef recordmydesktop.sf.net outputs ogg I think 15:32 sekjal anyone know an example of a relatively common title or author that has two or more accented characters, where the second character is NOT the last in a word? 15:32 sekjal so, "DeÌjaÌ€ vu" won't work, because the accent falls on the "a" 15:34 wizzyrea hmm 15:37 jcamins Could a UNIMARC user please close bug 5924? 15:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5924 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED , Authorities search : Heading Main is defined in unimarc record.abs 15:40 juan_sieira hi koha 15:40 juan_sieira after install git-email, I dont have the command git send-email... in ubuntu maverick 15:41 juan_sieira do I have to use another command ...., install another package.... 15:42 wizzyrea do you have git core? 15:42 juan_sieira yes 15:42 juan_sieira I'm using git since 2 years ago 15:42 wizzyrea fair enough 15:42 juan_sieira so, now I would to send emails with git .. 15:43 juan_sieira but I cant 15:43 kf hm are you sure the git-email installed correctly? 15:43 juan_sieira yes... 15:43 kf and it says unknown command? 15:43 sekjal got it: "Frédéric" will work 15:43 juan_sieira yes 15:44 juan_sieira if I put git, and hit tab twice... 15:44 wizzyrea send-email maybe not in your path? 15:44 slef bbl 15:44 juan_sieira I get: 15:44 juan_sieira add br clone diff get-tar-commit-id log notes replace show-branch whatchanged 15:44 juan_sieira am branch cm difftool grep lol pull request-pull st 15:44 juan_sieira annotate bundle co fetch help lola push reset stage 15:44 juan_sieira apply checkout commit filter-branch imap-send merge rebase revert stash 15:44 juan_sieira archive cherry config format-patch init mergetool relink rm status 15:44 juan_sieira bisect cherry-pick describe fsck instaweb mv remote shortlog submodule 15:44 juan_sieira blame clean df gc lg name-rev repack show tag 15:44 kf no send-email 15:45 juan_sieira no 15:45 kf and if you type it in? 15:45 juan_sieira this: 15:45 kf I am using ubuntu from the beginning and never had any problems with it once I installed the package 15:45 juan_sieira git gitk gitosis-run-hook git-receive-pack gitstats git-upload-pack 15:45 juan_sieira gitg gitosis-init gitosis-serve git-shell git-upload-archive 15:45 kf what did you type? 15:45 juan_sieira git and twice tab 15:46 juan_sieira and before, git<space> twice tab 15:46 juan_sieira I dont tested restarting the system ... 15:47 juan_sieira but I think is not the solution 15:47 kf sudo apt-get install git-core git-email 15:47 kf is what I normally do 15:47 juan_sieira me too 15:47 wizzyrea for ubuntu it's just sudo apt-get install git git-email 15:47 wizzyrea (no git-core in ubuntu) 15:47 juan_sieira git-core ya está en su versión más reciente. 15:47 juan_sieira fijado git-core como instalado manualmente. 15:47 juan_sieira git-email ya está en su versión más reciente. 15:47 kf wizzyrea: I am using ubuntu - did never complain 15:48 wizzyrea duly noted :) 15:48 juan_sieira uuuu 15:48 juan_sieira I got git-core installed manually 15:48 juan_sieira but in Ubuntu there is and "git" package 15:48 kf wizzyrea: perhaps there is in later versions? I normally just copy it from my wiki 15:49 wizzyrea could be 15:49 kf http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GIT 15:50 kf ah, german 15:50 wizzyrea and the only message is "unknown command" 15:50 wizzyrea nothing after it? 15:51 juan_sieira no 15:52 juan_sieira I installed the package "git", dpkg-reconfigure git-email 15:52 juan_sieira and nothing.. 15:52 wahanui nothing is ever gone in git 15:52 wizzyrea hi hankbank 15:52 hankbank heya wizzyrea 15:53 nengard hi hankbank 15:53 hankbank hola niengard 15:54 hankbank aka reports 15:55 wizzyrea all of that suggests to me that git send-email isn't in your patrh 15:55 wizzyrea path* 15:58 juan_sieira where is the bin file git? 15:59 wizzyrea which git would tell you 15:59 juan_sieira locate git-email 16:00 juan_sieira "locate git-email 16:00 juan_sieira I cant paste it... 16:00 juan_sieira http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=TqBs1dGb 16:02 juan_sieira my git is running ok, git commit, git add ...., but I dont get git send-email running 16:03 juan_sieira so, I go to restart computer, ... 16:05 * jcamins closed a bunch of tickets. 16:08 juan_sieira Ok¡¡ 16:08 juan_sieira I get git send-email working now 16:08 juan_sieira after restart my computer 16:09 wizzyrea reboot++ 16:09 wizzyrea probably a logout/login would have done it 16:09 juan_sieira yes, probably 16:09 juan_sieira so, dont restart my pc since 1 or 2 months... 16:12 jcamins Does anyone have any objection to me closing tickets that have had a "Patch pushed" status of more than three months? 16:17 jcamins There are 99 tickets that meet that criterion. 16:18 wizzyrea I don't, if they're briefly tested :/ 16:18 wizzyrea I know that adds a lot of work 16:18 jcamins Okay, I won't be going through then. 16:19 jcamins I went through and tested all the ones that I was getting messages about, but then I noticed patches that had been pushed last year, and thought maybe they should just be closed, since no one's ever going to test. 16:27 wizzyrea I guess they can always be reopened... 16:28 jcamins It doesn't really matter, I was just taking a break from another task, and thought I'd be productive. 16:32 wizzyrea-tab computer updates yay 16:34 * sekjal is reading zebra config files... makes him hungry 16:35 sekjal or maybe that's the "being-lunch-time" that's doing it 16:42 sekjal should the XML we pass to Zebra to index be unicode normalized for composition or decomposition? 16:43 jcamins I don't recall. 16:44 jcamins Is it going through wrong? 16:46 sekjal I think the normalization will affect how the indexer treats the record 16:46 sekjal was reading word-phrase-utf.chr 16:47 sekjal when it was originally written, though, there was a note that it this may be an issue 16:47 sekjal and I'm seeing diacritic search work, presumably using the rules laid out in that file, without ICU chains. 16:47 jcamins Oh, I misunderstood your question. 16:47 jcamins Composed. 16:47 sekjal but only on some data sets 16:50 jcamins Right. Because MARC-8->UTF-8 conversions don't use the same codepoint as regular composed characters. 16:52 sekjal so a natively UTF-8 record and a MARC-8 to UTF-8 record will encode the same characters differently? 16:53 jcamins In the majority of cases, yes. 16:54 sekjal so what needs to happen to turn the MARC-8 to UTF-8 records into real UTF-8 records? 16:59 jcamins It is unclear to me whether everything has to be converted into NFC or NFKC. 17:00 jcamins I *think* NFC should work. 17:01 sekjal would be easy enough to test, I suppose, given the right data set 17:01 jcamins Obviously NFC would be preferable, all else being equal. 17:03 sekjal agreed 17:03 sekjal okay, need to eat. back in a bit 17:13 oleonard Listening to sekjal talk about UTF apparently makes me hungry. Or maybe that's a coincidence too. 17:13 jcamins NFKC, nomnomnom. 17:14 cait lol 17:14 * cait waves 17:17 * jcamins waves back 17:42 jcamins Whoever came up with the idea of pasta salad was an under-appreciated genius. 17:42 wizzyrea hehe 17:43 * wizzyrea is eating mint chocolate chip ice cream pie 17:43 jcamins Though I don't think this is quite what most people have in mind when they think "pasta salad." 17:43 jcamins The only difference between this and a regular salad is that it has pasta and no lettuce. 17:43 wizzyrea that sounds yummy 17:44 jcamins One of the best salads ever: pasta, edamame, blue cheese, walnuts, bacon, cranberries, chicken. 17:45 Agent_Dani That sounds very much better than any pasta salad I've had. 17:45 wizzyrea ^^ 17:46 jcamins That's 'cause it is. :) 17:47 cait and that sounds like jcamins talking :) 17:47 cait fooood :) 17:48 jcamins I need to come up with my next salad plan. 17:49 jcamins Any suggestions for a salad so amazing it will inspire my wife to eat lunch? 17:49 cait I like fennel-mango 17:50 cait but a lot of people don't like fennel 17:50 jcamins Hm. Not sure we've ever had it, actually. 18:38 druthb nengard++ #my teammates are da bestest! 18:39 nengard :) 18:58 oleonard [% IF ( transport.transport ) %][% transport.transport %][% ELSE %]Unknown[% END %] 18:58 oleonard Why would that display [% transport.transport %] when present but not "Unknown" otherwise? 18:58 * oleonard feels like he's going crazy 19:02 cait no idea? 19:02 * cait sends oleonard cookies 19:06 oleonard nengard, I have a question for you about Bug 6571 19:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6571 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , advanced notice says 'unknown' 19:06 nengard k 19:07 oleonard Look at your message_attributes table. Do you see "Advance_Notice" as one of the message_names? 19:07 oleonard Or do you see "Advance Notice" 19:07 oleonard (the first with an underscore, the second without) 19:09 * oleonard is hoping that's the cause of your problem, and the reason I can't replicate the bug 19:09 nengard hang on 19:09 nengard oleonard i have it without an underscore (with a space) 19:10 cait oleonard: that sounds logical 19:10 cait we had that before, thought it was all fixed now 19:10 oleonard Yeah, there was an update in updatedatabase.pl that should have caught that 19:10 nengard apparently one of the db updates was skipped by me or wasn't actually in the update script? 19:11 nengard i can change it manually, but we should be sure that others got that update 19:11 oleonard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=77167b3b17690ccff682d410847b13aa5ac186e8 19:12 nengard hmmm 19:12 nengard i got all the ones above that 19:12 nengard look closer at that line 19:12 nengard + $dbh->do("UPDATE message_attributes SET message_name = 'Advance_Notice' WHERE message_name='Advance_Notice'") 19:12 nengard it only changed it if it had an underscore already 19:12 nengard not a space 19:13 nengard that's why mine wasn't fixed 19:14 oleonard that must have gotten corrected later, because that's not how it is in the current version 19:15 nengard but maybe it was fixed after i had already upgraded 19:16 nengard and i didn't get the update 19:17 oleonard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=27b559e495e74a28dc74fdb23c17609ae509fca2 19:18 nengard yeah, so by the time that patch made it to Koha I had already gone through that update to .051 so it didn't trigger it for me 19:18 nengard make sense? 19:19 nengard so my question is this - do we need a patch that changes just that in the DB for others who might be like me or am I an anomolie? 19:19 * oleonard doesn't know 19:20 nengard heh 19:25 oleonard The problem would only happen for someone who was updating very frequently, so presumably only for those who are doing bleeding-edge testing. But that could still include people preparing to put an installation into production. 19:42 oleonard nengard: http://www.screencast.com/t/C7696tbN 19:43 oleonard Re: Bug 6426 19:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6426 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , messaging not showing on patron categories 19:43 nengard me likey! 19:43 nengard better than it was before 19:43 oleonard Cool. 19:44 wizzyrea yes, thanks owen 19:45 wizzyrea that's good stuff. 19:47 jcamins_away wizzyrea: you have me thinking about mint chocolate chip ice cream sandwiches. 19:47 wizzyrea ... and now me too 19:48 jcamins_away Ha! At least someone else is suffering with me. 19:49 jcamins_away Ooh, berries are on sale for a good price. 19:50 jcamins_away They call $5 for a 3lb bag of clementines a sale? Pff. 19:53 cait oleonard: instead of the screenshot I get a lot of unreadable text 19:53 cait I think the mime type of the attachement is wrong 19:53 oleonard Weird, I've never had that problem before. 19:53 cait I unchecked patch 19:54 cait but it did not correct the mime type I guess, it says text/plain 19:54 oleonard Should work now 19:54 cait ah 19:54 cait great :) 19:54 cait thx! 19:54 cait looks a lot better :) 19:55 oleonard Did I accidentally say that my screenshot was a patch? 19:55 cait I think so 19:55 cait you are used to click patch :) 19:55 cait would be nice if it would show the days for the advance notice 19:55 oleonard Patchety patch patch. 19:56 rangi morning 19:56 cait morning rangi :) 19:56 rangi @wunder wellington nz 19:56 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 3.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on July 15, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Rising). 19:56 rangi brrr 19:56 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:56 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.2�C (9:55 PM CEST on July 14, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Steady). 19:56 rangi its cold at the bus stop 19:56 ibeardslee it is a bit nippy out there isn't it 19:56 bg @wunder 93109 19:56 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 20.6�C (12:56 PM PDT on July 14, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). 19:57 oleonard @wunder 45701 19:57 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 27.0�C (3:35 PM EDT on July 14, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 19:57 bg rangi: NateC? 19:57 wahanui I LIKE SPACE! 19:57 rangi hehe 19:58 wizzyrea @wunder Wellington NZ 19:58 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 3.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on July 15, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Rising). 19:58 wizzyrea ok yea, that's chilly 19:58 rangi blue sky tho 19:58 rangi gonna be a nice day 19:59 rangi if cold 20:01 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6426] Messaging not showing on patron categories <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6426> 20:03 * oleonard is off 20:03 library_systems_guy rangi did you say you'd looked at the hourly branch? 20:04 library_systems_guy i just got it up and since im not familiar with hourly loans i don't know where to look 20:05 rangi colin did 20:05 rangi where I would look first 20:05 rangi is the circ rules 20:05 library_systems_guy oh yeah...i think it was his branch that i checked out 20:05 rangi can u set them hourly 20:05 rangi not just days 20:05 library_systems_guy ok 20:05 rangi then, change some and try issuing 20:06 rangi and see what happens is a good start 20:06 library_systems_guy will do 20:06 library_systems_guy thanks rangi 20:06 rangi np 20:10 rangi thanks for testing 20:10 library_systems_guy np...but unless i messed up the install i don't think its working 20:10 library_systems_guy but there is a very good possibility that i messed up...git dark magic happened 20:13 rangi heh yeah, feel free to document anything on the bug, it all helps 20:13 library_systems_guy should i have to apply your proposed db changes? 20:13 rangi ill try to look at it today some time 20:13 rangi hmm not sure actually 20:13 library_systems_guy i guess i could just take a peek at the db 20:14 rangi yeah, issues and old_issues 20:14 rangi should have changed 20:15 library_systems_guy i don't think they did...i still see date as the type not datetime 20:16 rangi yeah, that wont work 20:16 rangi must have to do the db changes too 20:17 library_systems_guy hmm i may wait before i start jumping into the deep end on this and talk to collum 20:17 rangi colin? 20:17 library_systems_guy yeah...autocomplete...grr 20:17 rangi :) 20:20 library_systems_guy so what may have happened is I have an existing database (i just cloned my VM) and the koha installer never actually ran... 20:33 rangi ahh that would do it 20:34 library_systems_guy silly me 20:34 library_systems_guy do you know of a way i can merge the changes without dropping my current db? 20:34 rangi yup 20:34 library_systems_guy !!! 20:35 rangi just change the kohaversion.pl number to be higher, and change the updatedatabase.pl to set it to that, and then the installer will kick in an run 20:36 * rangi hopes that makes sense, i havent had coffee yet 20:37 library_systems_guy haha for the most part...i changed kohaversion.pl 20:37 library_systems_guy but im looking for a place the change it in updatedatabase.pl 20:37 rangi is there one that has XXX 20:37 rangi ? 20:37 library_systems_guy i don't see one 20:38 rangi whats the last one? 20:38 wahanui it has been said that the last one is an older koha version, right? 20:38 cait forget last one 20:38 wahanui cait: I forgot last one 20:38 library_systems_guy the last version i have in update is 3.05.00.004 20:38 library_systems_guy which i think is head 20:39 rangi right, so it doenst look like it has the actual changes in it, so you might need pull in that branch 20:39 library_systems_guy :'( 20:39 library_systems_guy lol 20:40 rangi http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Good+Morning+Baby/1mNq8?src=5 <-- some feel good music for friday morning 20:40 library_systems_guy i guess i'll have to wait to listen to it 20:41 rangi heh 20:41 rangi here you go then http://grooveshark.com/#/playlist/Koha+Hacking/8190140 20:42 library_systems_guy thats awesome 20:50 rangi jcamins++ #marking bugs fixed 20:55 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4995] extended attributes replication from LDAP <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4995> 20:58 cait good night #koha 21:40 jcamins_away People with kids: when you're making ice pops in an ice cube tray, does the aluminum foil go *over* the toothpicks, or do you poke a tiny hole in the aluminum foil for each toothpick? 21:41 rangi whats the foil for? 21:42 jcamins_away To keep the toothpicks from falling over. 21:43 library_systems_guy what is this wizardry 21:43 jcamins_away Is that one of those unusual things that my family does due to a great-grandparent having an inefficient freezer, or something like that? 21:43 wizzyrea uh 21:43 ibeardslee I'd put the foil down and then stab the toothpick through 21:43 wizzyrea ^^ that 21:43 library_systems_guy yeah im going with ibeardslee 21:43 jcamins_away Okay, that's how I did it. 21:44 wizzyrea I would have probably used plastic wrap >.> 21:44 wizzyrea easier to peel off, doesn't tear 21:44 * ibeardslee would have used greaseproof paper 21:44 wizzyrea ooooo 21:44 wizzyrea parchment++ 21:44 jcamins_away But when I was five, there's no way I could've done that successfully, so I wondered if I was missing something. 21:44 wizzyrea you're right, that would be better 21:45 Space_Librarian o/ 21:45 library_systems_guy http://compare.ebay.com/like/220804031913?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y 21:45 wizzyrea \o 21:45 library_systems_guy relivant 21:45 library_systems_guy relevant ** 21:46 wizzyrea i found the popsicles sort of hard to get out of those 21:46 wizzyrea without melting more of my popsicle than I would like 21:46 library_systems_guy really...i've heard they were fantastic 21:47 * library_systems_guy is now disappointed 21:47 * wizzyrea might have been doing it wrong 21:47 jcamins_away library_systems_guy: I don't have popsicle molds, and the impetus for making Bailey's Irish cream frozen yogurt was an effort to be fiscally responsible. 21:47 jcamins_away Yeah, that particular brand isn't very good. 21:47 jcamins_away The problem is the hard plastic. 21:47 jcamins_away You can get ones with slightly softer plastic, that will allow you to actually pop the popsicle out. 21:47 wizzyrea silicone would be amazing I bet 21:47 wizzyrea for that 21:48 rangi hi ClusterdKid 21:48 ClusterdKid Hello 21:48 * Space_Librarian is amazed at the conversation. 21:48 jcamins_away wizzyrea: ooh, yeah, that would be pretty great. 21:48 jcamins_away Space_Librarian: why? 21:48 Space_Librarian I came into the conversation at the wrong time> 21:48 jcamins_away Space_Librarian: is this not the channel that started International French Toast Day? 21:48 ibeardslee ??!!?? 21:48 ibeardslee when is that? 21:48 Space_Librarian Now i've learnt something new, I can go back to bed. ;) 21:49 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTyotI3IHFQ 21:49 wizzyrea plus, we do have a community cookie :P 21:49 ClusterdKid I am looking for a little help. I have been testing item imports. I have done several tests and I would now like to clear all of the items out. Is there are quick (and safe) way to do so 21:49 wizzyrea ok, work time. :) 21:49 ClusterdKid sorry 21:49 wizzyrea all good 21:49 Space_Librarian have you guys done the quickly-running-the-popsicle-mould-under-hot-water-trick? 21:49 rangi yes there is ClusterdKid 21:49 jcamins_away ibeardslee: May 4, according to the logs. 21:50 * Space_Librarian puts on work hat 21:50 rangi do you want to clear the biblio records too, or just the items? 21:50 ClusterdKid all of it would be best 21:50 rangi truncate biblio 21:50 rangi the cascades should get rid of everything 21:50 jcamins_away Except for issues. 21:51 jcamins_away You'll also want to run 'truncate issues;' 21:51 library_systems_guy don't forget to reset zebra :-\ 21:51 ClusterdKid so truncate is a command? or as in a mysql truncate? 21:52 rangi mysql truncate 21:52 ibeardslee true story, make sure it is sugar not salt 21:53 rangi :) 21:53 Space_Librarian ibeardslee: agreed 21:55 ibeardslee my story about the macaroni flour can wait for another day 21:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6587 - Tag moderation lost colors <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05e90ad0f4d44e63091129edfcb819ecbb0ba6cd> / Fix for Bug 6586 - calendar showing the wrong event type when editing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b0a8e997b2ec09e657fb04058533801abe5ec66> / Fix for Bug 6570 - unlabeled box on funds form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha. 21:57 jcamins_away ibeardslee: is macaroni flour semolina? 21:58 ibeardslee no it was my interpretation of a recipe gone wrong 21:58 rangi https://launchpad.net/~koha <-- join up if you are on launchpad .. and look there are 2 ppa for natty there too 21:59 ibeardslee jcamins_away: specifically teaspoon vs tablespoon of flour in macaroni cheese 21:59 jcamins_away Oops. 22:00 jcamins_away Myshkin is quickly and efficiently downing my entire glass of water. 22:00 jcamins_away And typing for me at the same time. 22:00 wizzyrea farewell for now friends 22:00 ClusterdKid so I ran - truncate biblio then truncate issues and did a koha-rebuild-zebra - and the records and items are still in the catalog 22:01 library_systems_guy later #Koha 22:01 jcamins_away searching faq? 22:01 wahanui searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 22:01 jcamins_away ClusterdKid: the answer is somewhere on that page. 22:01 jcamins_away You need to reset your indexes. 22:03 jcamins_away Number 5. 22:03 jcamins_away No, not number 5. 22:03 jenkins_koha Starting build 322 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:03 jcamins_away Number 1. 22:06 jcamins_away I wonder if I should have cooled the yogurt to approaching frozen in the measuring cup before putting it in the ice cube trays. 22:06 jcamins_away Oh well. I can try that next time if necessary. 22:16 ClusterdKid after I run rebuild_zebra.pl I get zebraidx(16194) [warn] Index 'Record-control-number' not found in attset(s) 22:17 ClusterdKid any ideas 22:17 rangi its a warn, that you can safely ignore, and is fixed in newer versions of koha 22:18 rangi noisy and annoying, but not fatal ;) 22:20 ClusterdKid ok, but my records are still there 22:20 rangi did you look at the link jcamins_away gave? 22:20 rangi and they are definitely not in the database eh? 22:20 rangi ie if you click on one of them, does it 404? 22:20 ClusterdKid a select of the biblio has 0 rows 22:21 rangi same for biblioitems? 22:21 ClusterdKid when i click on one I get Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Koha.pm line 1164. 22:21 rangi hmm, you running 3.2.something? 22:22 rangi you did a rebuild_zebra.pl -r -b -a right? 22:26 ClusterdKid yeah i'm on a 3.2.6 and I did rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r 22:27 rangi yeah look at the number 1, in the link jcamins posted 22:28 rangi http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 22:28 rangi looks like its not droppping the index 22:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #322: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/322/ 22:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for 6426 - messaging not showing on patron categories 22:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6570 - unlabeled box on funds form 22:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6586 - calendar showing the wrong event type when editing 22:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6570 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Unlabeled box on funds form 22:47 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6587 - Tag moderation lost colors 22:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6586 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Calendar showing the wrong event type when editing 22:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6587 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Tag moderation lost colors 22:51 ClusterdKid looks like RTFM strikes again. Thanks 22:51 rangi no worries 22:52 rangi -r should do that, but sometimes, it doesnt 22:52 rangi i *think* we have it fixed in later versions 23:18 jenkins_koha Starting build 323 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5867 : Improved the email checking when sending "Hold filled" notices. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8fe55124e0e8e8d88b3c9b525d615cafff1061f> / Bug 5462: Update of the italian sql files The bug is about strings that are used... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa203e9761481e4201f5d24c409eee8228204654>