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23:57 hristost make a backup first :-)
23:57 rangi as long as you follow the upgrade instructions
23:56 rangi you can go from 3.0.x to any 3.2.x or 3.4.x
23:46 Phlunk3 can I always update to newest, or do I need to do incremental updates over each version released?
23:45 rangi (that file will be in all the tarballs, but you can look in git for a sneak peek)
23:45 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian;h=0df007c78df0c552bb8e005e2aa1c0e3043908fc;hb=f4892799e56da6d968bb179cbe2157673d44c0ec#l320
23:44 Phlunk3 good question, still haven't been able to log into the box ;) but I believe debian.
23:44 rangi on what distro?
23:44 Phlunk3 3.00.05.003
23:44 rangi the tarballs contain upgrade instructions, but heres a quick link
23:43 rangi what version of 3.0 ?
23:41 phlunk3 Hi guys, I have just taken over a system which is running koha 3.0 and have no experience with koha at all, can anyone point me to instructions which will help me when I want to upgrade the system to the latest release?
23:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6577 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Columns misaligned on serials search results
23:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4994 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , ldap mapping inconsistancy: Net::LDAP returns lowercase names
23:31 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6577 - columns misaligned on serials search results
23:31 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 4994 - Net::LDAP returns lowercase names
23:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #321: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/321/
23:17 rangi hi BobB
22:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6577 - columns misaligned on serials search results <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4892799e56da6d968bb179cbe2157673d44c0ec> / Bug 4994 - Net::LDAP returns lowercase names <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b79c4c88a965a3233f359f8333a492effcf075eb>
22:48 jenkins_koha Starting build 321 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:23 Brooke saweet
22:23 rangi i have all 4 of theirs actually
22:23 rangi i have the cd Brooke
22:22 Brooke ello Irma and bye bye
22:22 * Brooke hugs rangi for iding the band that's been in her head for the last damn 9 months.
22:22 Brooke that's the thing that Emma was listening to!
22:22 Brooke that's it!
22:21 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90W3WBx6_6I <-- maorification
22:21 Brooke might make a repeat appearance after fencing
22:21 Brooke k dinnah prep time
22:20 Brooke aedunno, could use some Maorification ;)
22:19 * ibeardslee has the musical talent of a peanut butter sandwich
22:19 rhcl a bit surprised she would have them on her show.
22:19 Space_Librarian its a good arrangement.
22:19 rangi heh yeah
22:18 Space_Librarian almost tangent: http://youtu.be/zf2aIVKp1OY
22:18 slef You set us up the Ellen.
22:17 Brooke Ellen is the bomb.
22:17 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wtBXkGrxws&feature=related <-- how it started
22:17 * Brooke should get the stones to go busk with the saxophonist or the wee harpist.
22:16 rangi heh
22:16 Brooke clearly they need a groupy to hand em new bows.
22:16 ibeardslee fark
22:15 rangi yeah
22:15 Brooke wow they are super far down the neck to get that high
22:13 Space_Librarian rock the cellos
22:13 Space_Librarian awesome
22:13 Brooke dude carbon fibre!
22:13 rangi they are darn talented
22:13 Brooke bass even
22:13 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AYEgwwCYWw
22:13 Brooke because viola and base almost always got the crap part
22:12 Brooke I used to jam with this dude that played bass
22:12 Brooke omg no
22:11 rangi have i shown you the 2cellos playing guns and roses yet?
22:09 Brooke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-eYBZFEzf8
22:08 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow <-- explains what happens to a patch after it is sent
22:07 Brooke but I *could* do it, were my mail programme cooperative.
22:07 Brooke takes a few reads
22:07 Brooke it is so simple, even I can do it.
22:07 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git <-- the whole page is worth a read
22:07 jati tomorrow I'll put the patch into bugzilla
22:06 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Share_with_the_rest_of_the_world
22:06 jati bye¡¡
22:06 jati ok
22:06 jati rangi, what is your email? to send you the patch
22:06 jati I got some of them, but not all
22:06 jati but, I planned to migrated all those changes to koha-community master
22:06 jati yes, now I have lots of work, because of a installation of koha in 5 libraries
22:02 rangi so you can test it on your 3.2.0 install, then cherry-pick it to a master branch and fix any conflicts and send the patch based on that
22:01 rangi so if you base it off master, it can go into 3.4.x and into 3.6.0 when its released
22:00 rangi 3.2.x is deprecated, so that wont be much use
22:00 jati but to this, template pro or template toolkit does not take care
22:00 jati but on 3.02, with template pro
22:00 jati tomorrow I'll do it
22:00 jati yes, of course
22:00 rangi but id accept a patch implementing the syspref is you wanted to send one
21:59 jati I have to remove it on AddBiblio
21:59 rangi i think its just easier to enter without them
21:59 jati I think it could be and system preference to decide if a user wants or not to index hyphens in isbn or issn
21:58 jati and I cant search it without them
21:58 jati it indexes the hyphens of an isbn
21:58 jati definitely, version 3.05, koha-community does the same
21:53 Brooke fresh eyes are good eyes :)
21:52 wizzyrea k thx for clarifying
21:51 jati I think tomorrow will investigate it...
21:51 rangi sorry without
21:51 jati so, here I got 23:50,
21:51 wizzyrea did you mean "enter them without the -" rangi?
21:50 rangi :)
21:50 rangi 09:42 <@rangi> we normalize them when searching
21:50 rangi yup
21:50 jati when searching, normalize the query string...
21:49 jati rangi: I think is the better way...
21:49 rangi and if you enter them with the - .. then you can search for both, we normalise on searching
21:49 jati and I saw the - in the isbn data in marcxml...
21:49 rangi id just enter them without the - .. thats how a barcode scanner would enter them
21:49 jati so, 2 years ago, I installed 3.0 to some libraries, and I dont remember, but I think I could search with and without hyphens
21:48 wizzyrea perfect thanks :)
21:48 jati 3.02.00
21:47 rangi easiest solution for you then is to enter it without the - then .. then people can search with or without them
21:47 jati so, I test koha of biblibre, and does the same
21:47 wizzyrea ?
21:47 wizzyrea so you're running 3.0.2 or 3.2.x
21:46 jati ok ok
21:46 rangi well this is #koha ;-) so no point talking about liblime
21:46 jati I said "the version of liblime"...
21:46 jati yes I know...
21:46 jati and I think the community does to...
21:46 rangi liblime is not koha
21:46 jati the last
21:46 jati so I installed the version of liblime and does the same
21:46 rangi jun 2009 in fact
21:45 jati jaja no... :)
21:45 rangi ahh thats not 3.2 :-) that is very very old
21:45 jati 3.0.2
21:44 rangi 3.2.whata?
21:44 jati 3.2
21:44 jati if I search the isbn with hyphen it founds, but without them, not
21:44 rangi what version of koha?
21:44 jati no
21:44 jati do I have to add a rule in some file?
21:44 rangi so you cant search on them without?
21:44 jati but my zebra does not do it
21:43 rangi yes
21:43 jati when searching? zebra indexes the isbn with hiphens, and then you can search without it?
21:43 jati I dont know if koha must remove them, before it saves the marcxml, or is zebra who removes those "-"
21:42 rangi we normalize them when searching
21:41 jati it does not remove them
21:41 jati in my installation, when i save a biblio, it saves the isbn with hyphens
21:40 jati the question is about biblios in koha, not to import
21:40 Brooke or get yerself a script that seeks and destroys em
21:40 Brooke I should think that you could clean em with MarcEdit and then import em into Koha
21:40 jati or there is a rule into zebra to remove them...
21:39 * Brooke always manually ridded the records of that scourge.
21:39 jati do I have to remove hyphens from isbn, in biblioitems -> marcxml 020$a to index isbn without it, and then I would search with our without them
21:39 Brooke uh oh
21:38 jati I got a question about hyphens on isbn
21:38 jati Hi koha¡¡
21:38 Brooke 0/
21:38 * Brooke nods.
21:38 wizzyrea terrible thing, that
21:38 Brooke harrrumph.
21:36 rangi not today
21:35 Brooke and more importantly, has anyone heard from the Indians near Mumbai to see if folks are okay?
21:35 Brooke how's everyone doing?
21:32 Brooke 0/
21:32 rangi hey Brooke
21:31 Brooke morena :)
21:31 wizzyrea hi brooke :)
21:30 wizzyrea there we go :)
21:30 wahanui somebody said sign off on a branch was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_a_pushed_branch
21:30 wizzyrea sign off on a branch?
21:30 wizzyrea sign off on a branch is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_a_pushed_branch
21:30 wizzyrea sign off on a branch?
21:30 library_systems_guy haha i need to as well apparently
21:30 wizzyrea nah, I just keep the git pages handy ;)
21:30 library_systems_guy wizzyrea the maser of all that is wiki
21:29 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_a_pushed_branch
21:29 library_systems_guy dang it really
21:29 wizzyrea oh oh there's a wiki page for this sec
21:29 library_systems_guy I want to check out the hourly branch without having to check out a fresh copy...so would i check it out to another branch and then merge the two?
21:28 library_systems_guy hey rangi do you think you could point a git newb in the right direction
21:09 hristost bye sekjal and thank you!!
21:02 rangi heh
21:02 wizzyrea :)
21:02 wizzyrea this must mean it's almost time to go home.
21:02 wizzyrea that whole conversation was practically greek to me.
21:01 rangi cya later
21:01 slef bbl
20:59 slef yeah, rereading... too much kir to read straight :)
20:58 rangi shoulda have been sekjal before then, when i said cya to you by mistake
20:58 slef nah, last one to speak?
20:58 rangi maybe the last one you typed
20:57 rangi slef: it appears so
20:57 slef rangi: badly?
20:57 slef else w'd meet you there for lunch tomoz, way things are going here
20:57 rangi i never quite understand how the tab completion decides which it is gonna use
20:57 slef I'm not mentioning that here :)
20:57 rangi hmm sekjal
20:56 rangi cya slef
20:56 sekjal night, #koha
20:56 * sekjal wishes he could stick around, but it's time for beers with librarians
20:55 rangi meet ya there for lunch? :)
20:53 slef ta
20:53 rangi st johns
20:53 slef yeah
20:53 rangi the one where you can sit on the grass slef?
20:53 library_systems_guy do you know of a clean way to merge the hourly loans branch to an existing branch?
20:52 slef rangi: what's the pub by the harbour facing the convention centre, across the roads from it?
20:52 library_systems_guy I've noticed...i always hop on when the french guys are leaving
20:51 rangi we have a pretty decent spread over the world :)
20:51 rangi hehe more arent than are
20:50 * library_systems_guy blushes
20:50 library_systems_guy well i feel retarded assuming all programmers are in the us
20:50 library_systems_guy oh so it really is the morning for you rangi
20:46 rangi hmm busy day again today i think
20:36 rangi awesome
20:35 library_systems_guy and ill see what i can do to pull it down and get our circ staff testing it :)
20:32 library_systems_guy heh yeah...apparently there is some beef between academic and public libraries
20:30 rangi yeah, id be pleased if someone did test that branch
20:30 rangi or at least they think they are ;-)
20:29 library_systems_guy apparently reserves are super important for academic libraries
20:29 library_systems_guy I saw that...i may apply it...we really need something before we launch in august
20:28 rangi library_systems_guy: there is a branch that colin has put up for testing, its on the bug, if you wanted to test hourly loans
20:27 library_systems_guy does anybody know if there is a way to disable patron history and still have current checkouts in the circulation history tab
20:24 library_systems_guy s
20:23 library_systems_guy oop
20:23 rangi nope
20:23 library_systems_guy rangi are you the one testing the hourly loans stuff?
20:23 library_systems_guy morning rangi and cait
20:23 cait morning rangi
20:22 rangi morning
20:22 cait hi library_systems_guy
20:22 library_systems_guy Hi #Koha :)
20:05 hristost my perl is no good though
20:04 hristost line 61 of /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm seems to directly call "mapping"
20:04 hristost I've just commented out the whole <mapping> block (also disabled replicate and update) and tried to authenticate and I am back to the Software Error I defined in my first post.
20:00 sekjal yes, you can specify one of the branchcodes you've defined in Koha as the default
20:00 hristost this may be a very general question, but if our schema has nothing like "branchcode" can I simply specify something that we actually have?
19:57 sekjal you'll need to specify defaults for those
19:57 sekjal this includes categorycode and branchcode
19:57 sekjal once it is fixed, only the fields that are required by the database to be non-NULL will need to be filled in; others will be optional
19:56 hristost noted, thanks!
19:56 sekjal hristost: mapping is only required if you try to use replicate or update, neither of which work with AD right now
19:55 hristost as of now it is commented
19:55 hristost as in, our AD schema has nothing that seems to relate to say, categorycode so i am not sure what to use there
19:55 hristost sekjal: mapping question - are all fields required to be used?
19:53 wizzyrea actually nm
19:52 wizzyrea nengard: about?
19:51 wizzyrea sekjal++
19:28 sekjal 4994 is now pushed past QA
19:03 hristost I believe I saw this one whilst searching the tubes
19:02 sekjal ~getting it pushed past QA is on me
19:01 sekjal :/
19:01 sekjal aaaaannnnd, getting it pushed up on me right now
19:01 huginn 04Bug 4994: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , ldap mapping inconsistancy: Net::LDAP returns lowercase names
19:01 sekjal http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4994
19:00 sekjal and there's a bug report against that, so it may be fixed by now
19:00 sekjal hristost: only in the <mapping> I believe
19:00 hristost e.g. CN= versus cn= and so forth
19:00 hristost sekaj: do you know how picky koha-conf.xml is about case usage?
18:59 cait :)
18:59 * wizzyrea too
18:47 * sekjal is still looking forward to Koha 4.0
18:45 SirDekar :D
18:43 wizzyrea (god help us if we get into the thousands of 3.x releases)
18:43 wizzyrea the placeholders are important, but not universally used
18:42 wizzyrea ^^
18:42 SirDekar could be 3.0005.0 and keeps being 3.5
18:42 cait not koha?
18:42 cait ah
18:41 cait yes
18:41 hristost okay that explains why dpkg says i have 3.5 installed
18:41 wizzyrea 3.05 is the same as 3.5
18:41 cait i still don't get it actually
18:41 sekjal s/imaging/imagining/;
18:40 sekjal just imaging if we get to versions. 3.10 and 3.12...
18:40 cait now I am confused
18:40 wizzyrea (I was talking to cait)
18:40 wizzyrea 3.05
18:40 hristost oh?
18:40 wizzyrea not 3.0.5
18:40 hristost yeah 3.05.00.003
18:39 wizzyrea the 0 messes people up sometimes
18:39 wizzyrea it's the development version for 3.06
18:39 cait 3.05?
18:39 sekjal dang. well, it shall soon, I'm sure
18:39 cait hi #koha
18:37 hristost Many thanks, doesn't look like 3.05.00.003 has hit the repos yet
18:32 sekjal replying to that with what's been said here, so it's recorded in more places.
18:31 hristost from 6/28
18:31 hristost Yeah :-)
18:30 sekjal hristost: was that your post to the listserv?
18:29 hristost Thanks for the heads up, I will give this patch a try.
18:27 hristost I see
18:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5094 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , auth_by_bind authentication can fail even if given a correct password and userid
18:25 sekjal you may be encountering bug 5094, which is very recently patched
18:24 sekjal ah
18:22 hristost apt-get, via the Debian Squeeze repositories that are set up
18:21 sekjal hristost: so, git install?
18:19 hristost Koha version: 3.05.00.001
18:18 hristost sure let me grab that!
18:17 sekjal what Koha version are you running, specifically? full version number as found in About Koha, if it'd do ya fine
18:17 hristost this seems to be the most complete working config that I hav efound
18:17 hristost and am following that, going through everything again
18:16 hristost i found this: http://kohablog.wordpress.com/2011/03/29/using-active-directory-ldap/
18:16 hristost basically I can't authenticate, and the "koha-opac-error_log" gives me no clues as to what is wrong
18:16 hristost sekjal thanks
18:16 wizzyrea hmm
18:15 sekjal hristost: sorry, just catching up. what's the trouble you've got with Koha LDAP against AD?
18:15 jcamins_away Just thought I'd share that thought. :)
18:15 jcamins_away edamame+cranberries+blue cheese+bacon+anything=awesome
18:07 hristost I am more of a *nix guy so this is mostly a trial and error venture for me
18:05 hristost i believe i have logging as verbose as it can get
18:04 hristost right now the opac error log shows nothing relevant, so that is probably my best bet
18:03 hristost that is something i havent tried yet actually - thanks for the tip!
18:00 slef hristost: I don't know it well enough to opine. If I were you, I'd make something more verbose (ldap* command line tools) work with it from your koha server first, then try to configure koha to match what works.
17:58 hristost part of me wonders if it's been used on a Server 2008 r2 setup, or if that is a factor
17:58 hristost I've followed a lot of guides that are out there and I am sure I am doing something wrong
17:57 hristost Thanks slef, I definitely hear you :-)
17:54 slef yeah, trouble is that mud sticks if you don't wash it off, as I've learned to my cost.
17:30 talljoy wizzyrea++
17:10 * wizzyrea remembers her rule of thumb on most everything: there's no need to be defensive -- if you're right you don't need a defense and if you're wrong you don't have one. If it's somewhere in between, polite discussion is probably the way to go.
17:07 slef to be clear, davi was a subcontractor of our co-op, not a member.
17:04 davi ack, later
17:04 davi The last ones I attended were being part of slef coop
17:04 wizzyrea cool :)
17:03 davi Also, I hope to attend next meeting, 2 August
17:03 davi at least by now
17:03 davi I hope to be logged in this channel 24x7 but not too much active
17:02 davi I have took some time to read the logs
17:02 davi hi all
16:51 slef davi: copy-paste error?
16:50 davi 14:36 < kf> perhaps tt?
16:47 slef hristost: lots of people use it with LDAP and AD is just LDAP with fussy settings IIRC (I'm not our MS-certified worker, does it show?)
16:46 slef there's a page of koha users on http://wiki.koha-community.org I think
16:41 SirDekar thank you so much this is that I was looking for
16:40 wizzyrea or http://library.org.nz
16:40 SirDekar yes
16:40 wizzyrea that's not a very creative one
16:40 wizzyrea http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org
16:39 wizzyrea ah you want a library OPAC
16:39 SirDekar and I want to look some websites with this system to guide myself
16:37 SirDekar I am trying to use Koha to manage a library at a university
16:28 wizzyrea SirDekar: what are you wanting to look at?
16:28 SirDekar any working website from a library please
16:20 rhcl [off] http://www.pikinc.net/ (website sucks)
16:17 rhcl $30,000
16:14 rhcl And now that our ALA delegate has found the info it does indeed indicate that it uses SIP2, which was the intent of my original question.
16:13 rhcl This is late-breaking info...
16:13 rhcl I'm working on shakey info here, but apparently 3M makes both the RedBox machines and the "Library Media Box" which is actually pictured in their promo material as green.
16:12 * oleonard thought it was straight rentals
16:12 * oleonard wasn't aware that library/redbox partnerships involved circulation
15:58 rhcl_away To check out DVD's. Apparently they can connect to an ILS for library circ
15:57 oleonard In what way rhcl_away ?
15:56 rhcl_away Anybody using RedBox w/ Koha? http://www.communitynewspapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/KioskBig-767868.jpg
15:56 cma will do. thanks. :)
15:55 oleonard Yes please
15:55 cma should i file a bug, then?
15:53 cma it seems like it's always defaulting to the default search order. I manually changed that to borrower,due_date, and that resorted.
15:53 oleonard I see the same thing: I tried to sort the results using the "filter on" form in the sidebar, and it didn't seem to have any effect.
15:53 cma yep.
15:52 oleonard cma: Are you talking about circ/overdue.pl ?
15:51 cma I have a question about the overdues circulation report on 3.4--it seems to be ignoring the Sort By option. No matter what I choose the results look the same. Has anyone else experienced this?
15:47 cma hello!
15:41 hristost anybody in the room have experience with using Koha in an LDAP+Active Directory environment?
15:41 hristost Greetings!
15:35 reiveune bye
14:51 wizzyrea ok, off to file a bug about that I guess.
14:51 wizzyrea so it must be the incoming data
14:51 wizzyrea no, it's not that
14:50 wizzyrea )
14:50 wizzyrea (that it only shows "previous borrower" that's two back
14:49 wizzyrea gonna make sure that it's not the *other* thing I suspect about that
14:49 oleonard (which is perhaps incorrect)
14:49 wizzyrea 1mo
14:49 wizzyrea Oooooo
14:49 oleonard The label wouldn't show if 'card0' and 'card1' were not present
14:48 wizzyrea it's not even showing the label for it (and no, it's not JS here, I checked :))
14:47 oleonard wizzyrea: The only thing the template does there is check for 'card0' and 'card1' in the data. It would not display anything if those variables were absent.
14:47 SJeffery Has anyone ever looked into mapping the item types (item level) to the types at the bib level?
14:46 SJeffery Bingo!
14:46 kf 008, position 24-27 - Nature of contents (006/07-10) = m
14:46 wizzyrea hmm no it's keeping the history
14:46 kf SJeffery: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd008b.html
14:45 oleonard wizzyrea: patron anonymization?
14:44 kf I have seen it somewhere, let me check :)
14:44 kf no
14:44 SJeffery Still can't find where it is mapping, perhaps they simply map based on the presence of a 502.
14:44 wizzyrea yes
14:44 wizzyrea >.<
14:44 * wizzyrea is dumb
14:44 oleonard So, on moredetail.pl under "History." :P
14:43 wizzyrea that I perhaps don't have set?
14:43 wizzyrea is hiding that a preference?
14:43 wizzyrea dev: http://screencast.com/t/yiZgLdoVZm
14:42 wizzyrea production: http://screencast.com/t/srCU322onBn
14:41 wizzyrea cap
14:41 wizzyrea isec
14:41 kf items tab?
14:41 kf the items view?
14:41 wizzyrea no
14:41 oleonard wizzyrea: You mean moredetail.pl under "History" ?
14:41 kf have to spend some time on it later this week
14:41 kf my koha isntallation here is way out of date
14:41 * wizzyrea is bewildered
14:40 wizzyrea but not in current master?
14:40 kf or is it perhaps linked to the reading history?
14:40 wizzyrea well, it's in my production system
14:40 kf perhaps tt?
14:40 kf not that I am aware of
14:40 wizzyrea did I miss that?
14:40 wizzyrea hmm, did we remove the previous borrower thing from the items page?
14:40 huginn kf: This field contains special information about the physical characteristics in a coded form. The information may represent the whole item or parts of an item such as accompanying material. (Repeatable) []
14:40 kf @marc 007
14:39 huginn kf: This field contains 40 character positions (00-39) that provide coded information about the record as a whole and about special bibliographic aspects of the item being cataloged. These coded data elements are potentially useful for retrieval and data management purposes. []
14:39 kf @marc 008
14:39 kf there is also a search option for it on the advanced search page
14:39 kf always confuse them
14:39 kf or 008
14:39 kf I think 007 perhaps
14:37 oleonard SJeffery: It's a separate designation, but I don't know where it's set.
14:36 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6570] Unlabeled box on funds form <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6570>
14:36 SJeffery oleonard: There must be some other field that also designates it as a thesis/dissertation. Worldcat.org has separated them out for as long as I can remember.
14:34 slef LBA: I'll check for your vote when I vote, probably tomorrow or Friday.
14:34 oleonard 06 - Type of record: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bdleader.html
14:33 oleonard SJeffery: theses/dissertations map to "books" because they are "Language material" if I understand it correctly.
14:31 LBA thanks, slef. I don't have Sue B that I can tell but there are plenty of mmm.com email addresses on the recipient list so I assume they got it.
14:30 * wizzyrea whispers "the channel is logged..."
14:30 SJeffery That is what I came up with after spending the last week looking at them:D
14:30 SJeffery A steaming pile of ...
14:29 kf not sure I can imagine an icon for those :)
14:29 kf hm yes
14:28 SJeffery It seems as though there is no icon mapped for theses/dissertations and that they map to books instead...
14:25 kf but not configure them from the interface
14:25 kf you can turn them off
14:25 kf SJeffery: they are created using some of the controlled marc fields and leader
14:25 SJeffery Yes.
14:24 kf SJeffery: you mean the small icons in result and detail pages?
14:24 wizzyrea kf: super!
14:24 SJeffery Apparently I was looking at the wrong item type...I am trying to locate where the types are mapped, such as book, which are mapped from the marc record, not the item level data.
14:20 slef LBA: have you got Sue B's email address? That might work better
14:20 oleonard It searches all preferences, but not all administrative functions ;)
14:19 SJeffery Blah, figures. I keep forgetting that the preferences search doesn't actually search all preferences:)
14:18 slef SJeffery: Home › Administration › Item Types › Modify Item Type 'BK' > Choose an icon
14:18 kf wizzyrea: patron card creator is fixed too :)
14:18 gmcharlt SJeffery: the association of icon to type is set in the same place as in 3.0/3.2 - Administration | Item Types
14:18 slef SJeffery: aren't they still in Administration: Item types?
14:16 SJeffery Where are the itemtype icons defined/mapped within 3.4?
14:16 LBA slef - many recipients bounce including sip3@mmm.com
14:15 gmcharlt slef: indeed. talk about burying the lead
14:15 slef gmcharlt: roflmao. That's nice.
14:14 slef LBA: what address bounced? sip3@3m?
14:14 slef gmcharlt: ok, as the first two pages really just could be sent as a patch to the document.
14:14 gmcharlt LBA: yes, I did
14:14 LBA gmcharlt and slef - did you get my response on the sip3 mailing list? it bounced.
14:14 gmcharlt although they clearly also think that editorially the current draft is very sloppy
14:13 gmcharlt slef: I think the bottom half of page four really gets to the core of EnvisionWare's concerns
14:12 slef gmcharlt: ta. got it
14:12 LBA slef, just posted a vote. I didn't pay close enough attention. Just sending an email response registers a vote.
14:11 gmcharlt slef: if you're looking for a copy of the attachment, I've put it up for you here: http://nox.esilibrary.com/~gmc/EnvisionWareVoteAndCommentsOnSIP_3_0.pdf
14:00 * slef looks at that email again
13:59 slef LBA: why can't you? And did you have an attachment in that response? Something seemed to have removed it before it got to me. I hope they post it on the jive site.
13:59 LBA I cannot tell I lie, I didn't read the technical details enough to have an opinion on that part.
13:58 LBA slef, just read the envisionware response....they convinced me to vote no. If only I could.
13:58 LBA Hi oleonard, that and it reminded me I hadn't checked in on everyone in fah-evah!
13:56 slef hi LBA: what do you make of sip3?
13:55 oleonard Hi LBA. Here to see if any LDAP questions appear? ;)
13:31 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6584] Enable searching on Zebra's Bib-level index <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6584>
13:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6584 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Enable searching on Zebra's Bib-level index
13:24 * oleonard doesn't understand what Bug 6584 is about
12:37 kf hi talljoy :)
12:32 talljoy morning kf
12:31 * kf has fun with issuingrules
12:16 kf hm?
12:15 oleonard Anyone up to any Koha fun today?
12:09 JesseM Mornin oleonard
12:09 oleonard Hi #koha
10:33 druthb o/
09:17 kf after answering the questions
09:17 kf when you run make it ormally tells you about missingmodules at the end
09:16 lizardking337 but when start web install i get that errors
09:12 lizardking337 and add all privileges to kohaadmin for koha database
09:12 lizardking337 add a user as "kohaadmin"
09:12 lizardking337 i create a database as "koha"
09:07 lizardking337 where is the all list of perl modules requirenments
09:07 lizardking337 i doubt a missin modules
09:06 lizardking337 checked all my setting
09:05 kf looking out for missing modules
09:05 kf running the make process again, checking all my settings are correct, recreating the database
09:04 kf I think I would start over
09:04 kf I think something went wrong there on one step
09:04 kf hm
09:03 lizardking337 and password is correct
09:03 lizardking337 i create database with defaul kohaadmin user
08:58 lizardking337 that is error log
08:58 lizardking337 http://paste.koha-community.org/93
08:54 lizardking337 one minute i'll take errors
08:54 kf if it didn't create the tables perhaps your data to access mysql is wrong
08:54 kf so which error message did you get?
08:54 kf s
08:54 kf just an empty database the web installer can acces
08:53 lizardking337 yes
08:53 lizardking337 but it didnt create any table on database
08:53 kf you have to create the database - but not create any tables
08:53 lizardking337 i tried web install
08:53 lizardking337 when i try without creating database manually
08:29 kf the web installer is supposed to create all tables and install sample files for you
08:29 kf and you created the database manually after the errors occured? or before that?
08:28 kf all dependencies installed?
08:28 kf and until then your installation went smoothly?
08:28 kf sorry no, never seen that
08:25 lizardking337 any idea?
08:25 lizardking337 in 3.4.2 errors still continue
07:48 lizardking337 i 'll try 3.4.2 as soon as
07:35 kf not sure if there was a problem with the installer for 3.4.1
07:34 kf lizardking337: current stable version is 3.4.2
07:34 kf hm
07:10 lizardking337 i create database as manually with kohastructure.sql
07:09 lizardking337 http://paste.koha-community.org/92
07:07 lizardking337 any ideas?
07:07 lizardking337 i search it on google but didnt find any solution
07:06 lizardking337 etc.
07:06 lizardking337 Use of uninitialized value in string eq
07:06 lizardking337 koha-error log is;
07:05 lizardking337 koha wait on step 1
07:05 lizardking337 when i start web installition
07:05 lizardking337 i use version of 3.4.1
07:04 lizardking337 i have a problem with koha installition
07:04 lizardking337 hi
07:04 kf sophie_m: hier gab es heute Nacht viel Gewitter
06:52 sophie_m Gewitter heute in Süd Frankreich
06:51 kf :)
06:51 sophie_m Guten Morgen kf :-)
06:50 kf hi sophie_m
06:50 wahanui niihau, sophie_m
06:50 sophie_m hello
06:50 reiveune hi kf
06:49 kf hi reiveune and julian
06:49 julian hi!
06:46 reiveune hello
06:38 kf morning #koha
05:06 francharb hi cait
05:06 cait morning francharb :)
05:06 francharb hello #koha
04:22 pauln righto - see ya
04:15 pauln think so - still learning google analytics speak
04:08 rangi mostly .nz ?
04:08 rangi cool
04:08 pauln 50 visitors in 6 months
04:07 wahanui hmmm... interesting is good
04:07 rangi oh interesting
04:06 pauln was looking at our web stats yesterday and a reasonable flow of traffic coming from onl and catalyst sites
04:06 pauln 9999 it is
04:05 rangi 9999 works
04:05 rangi yeah, it can be anything
04:05 pauln wr done. manual says port 9999 or is that just a space holder?
04:02 rangi it should take less than an hour, just need to know what port they want it to listen on (or i can just pick one and they can forward to that)
04:01 pauln which is true, but we paying them a lot in overheads
04:01 rangi ahh
04:00 pauln they refuse to look at the config file -s aid it would be easier and faster for you to do it
04:00 rangi heh
04:00 pauln it is more like it
03:57 rangi IT even
03:57 rangi sounds good, it will need it help again, to forward a port through the firewall
03:57 pauln so will i do a Wr for you to turn on the z39?
03:55 pauln agreed its no winter wonderland here
03:55 rangi in summer :)
03:54 rangi yeah, good idea
03:54 pauln too true - yep Don suggested up our way next time
03:54 rangi we can move it around from then on ;-)
03:54 rangi nice to have the innagrual meeting at the first koha library
03:53 pauln but worth it when you get there;)
03:53 rangi *nod*
03:53 pauln sounds good - levin is a bit of a pain to get to but
03:52 rangi plus opus, plant and food and a few others .. should be a good day
03:52 rangi so a good number of public librarians
03:52 rangi stdc are, and rangitikei and waitaki
03:51 rangi sweet
03:51 pauln yep, 3 of us
03:50 rangi are you coming to the user group meeting?
03:50 wahanui hello, rangi
03:50 rangi oh hey
03:50 rangi assuming access it can do federated searching, then that oughta work just fine :)
03:50 pauln and use z39 for cataloguing
03:50 pauln yep they're on access it i think
03:49 rangi i suspect whatever they are running would be more happy with Z3950
03:49 rangi old things can talk z3950
03:49 rangi smart new things, can do sru/sw or ils-di (oai-pmh isnt for searching, but harvesting, a bit different)
03:48 pauln from waihi college catalogue
03:47 rangi it depends what you are going to search it from
03:47 rangi yep i reckon so
03:47 pauln or oaipmh like lori suggested?
03:46 pauln Do you know if im on the right track with the z39 thing for fed searching?
03:46 pauln Hi Chris
03:45 rangi hi pauln
03:41 eythian http://grooveshark.com/album/The+Indifference+Engine/5225045 <-- music for you all. Can't remember if I've posted this here before. If I have, you should listen to it again.
03:31 jcamins_away :D
03:31 wahanui i heard Myshkin was more than articulate enough without me performing his interior monologue.
03:31 jcamins_away wahanui: Myshkin?
03:28 jcamins_away Myshkin says "hi, eythian and wahanui! We missed you!"
03:28 jcamins_away ]]]]]]]
03:16 jcamins_away eythian++
03:16 jcamins_away Hooray!
03:15 wahanui eythian: huh?
03:15 eythian wahanui: welcome back
03:15 * eythian stops waving his arms
03:14 * eythian makes summoning motions
03:10 eythian just make an sql dump and put that somewhere safe
03:09 jcamins_away I'll have to reload it into a different database so that I have a backup in case something goes wrong.
03:09 eythian it shouldn't matter really
03:09 jcamins_away I guess it's unfortunate that I called my database koha_${NAME}.
03:08 jcamins_away Okay, that looks pretty straightforward.
03:07 eythian it's pretty much just mysqldump with a few other bits.
03:07 eythian ah OK. In that case, have a look at what koha-dump-defaults does, and do that by hand :)
03:06 jcamins_away No, I had a git install from way back.
03:06 eythian are you running the packages? Because if you are, you can do koha-dump-defaults
03:06 jcamins_away The database is called koha_${NAME}, because I liked that idea from the Debian packages.
03:05 jcamins_away How would I use a pre-existing database?
03:03 eythian also still feeling the flight home a little bit.
03:02 jcamins_away Ah, time for a post-prandial snooze.
03:02 eythian 3pm
03:02 jcamins_away Isn't it mid-day or so?
03:02 eythian Not too bad. A bit sleepy :)
03:01 jcamins_away eythian! How are you?
03:00 eythian jcamins_away: yes, there is
02:29 jcamins_away Isn't there a way to have the packages use a pre-populated database?
02:00 glernil ok i'll check it then
02:00 jcamins_away I am on a saturated connection. Sorry about the terseness.
01:59 jcamins_away (in the tar.gz file.
01:59 jcamins_away INSTALL.debian.
01:59 jcamins_away Read the documentation.
01:59 glernil how should i do that?
01:58 jcamins_away glernil: you'll need to set PERL5LIB correctly.
01:58 glernil Is this a major problem?
01:57 glernil what should I do?
01:57 glernil Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild
01:57 glernil my mail server is always sending me a message with the following content
01:56 glernil good day!
00:49 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
00:49 jcamins_away @later tell larryb Also, sudo pbuilder update.
00:45 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
00:45 jcamins_away @later tell larryb If you're still having trouble with packages, it looks like running apt-get update and deleting your kohabuild directory may solve the problems.
00:25 Brooke see ya