Time  Nick                  Message
00:02 slef                  has anyone ever objected to any before?
00:03 rangi                 not on the new site
00:11 slef                  any suggestions how to phrase it?
00:12 rangi                 hmm, its definitely a tricky one, maybe something like
00:12 rangi                 I have some serious concerns about this being listed
00:12 rangi                 the concerns are
00:12 rangi                 * blah
00:12 rangi                 * etc
00:13 rangi                 short and sweet
00:14 slef                  do I keep it to the stuff which is independent of us?
00:14 rangi                 hmm probably for the public list yeah .. i dont really know im afraid
01:57 library_systems_guy1  so if i deleted my patches but they are signed off in QA...should i just wait till they get pushed or should i re-apply the patches
01:58 library_systems_guy1  (on my local setup)
02:43 jcamins_away          Hooray! I finished my cable wrapper, and it works!
02:46 jcamins_away          I now have the most perfectly organized desk ever. :)
02:54 huginn                New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5771] Better error handling for import borrowers - Provide a download file of errors <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5771>
03:04 huginn                New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5974] Bogus auth check for "StaffMember" role <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5974>
03:28 huginn                New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6116] Adding child patron: library not set <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6116>
04:35 stt                   can someone help me with this
04:36 stt                   we would like to add koha on livecd
04:36 stt                   i am wondering which version of koha should be added on livecd whether 3.4.2 or 3.2.10
04:36 stt                   does 3.4.2 stable or 3.2.10 is more stable
04:36 stt                   pl suggest
06:07 alex_a                hi
06:16 stt                   hi
06:16 stt                   i wanted help on deciding version of koha to be used on livecd
06:16 cait                  morning #koha
06:16 stt                   can someone help
06:16 bg                    I'd go with 3.4.2
06:16 bg                    hi cait
06:22 cait                  hi bg
06:22 bg                    @wunder 93109
06:22 huginn                bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 18.8�C (11:21 PM PDT on July 07, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady).
06:26 cait                  @wunder Konstanz
06:26 huginn                cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.5�C (8:25 AM CEST on July 08, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady).
06:34 francharb             hello all
06:44 cait                  hi francharb :)
06:46 cait                  getting ready for gbsd? :)
06:46 reiveune              hello
06:47 cait                  hi reiveune and julian :)
06:47 julian                hi cait , hi #koha !
06:47 reiveune              hi cait
06:56 cait                  wow
06:56 cait                  my new laptop is on the way now! finally!
06:57 cait                  should be delivered until noon... let's see :)
07:10 cait                  morning paul_p
07:10 paul_p                hi cait
07:10 paul_p                working on your new laptop or still the old one ?
07:11 cait                  still the old one - but got the delivery notice - should arrive until 12
07:11 cait                  now excited and waiting :)
07:13 cait                  biblibre getting ready for gbsd? :)
07:13 paul_p                cait, I think so, just arriving at office ;-)
07:14 cait                  ok
07:14 cait                  any problems to be expected installing koha on ubuntu 64bit?
07:16 paul_p                cait, no problem to expect, unless you have some strange hardware
07:16 cait                  ok, I am going to try
07:16 cait                  and hope that my hardware is not strange
07:42 hdl                   hi all
07:45 cait                  hi hdl :)
07:46 sophie_m              hello
07:46 christophe_c          hello all
07:47 clrh                  hi all
07:48 cait                  hi sophie_m, christophe_c and clrh :)
07:48 christophe_c          hi cait
07:51 alex_a                community day \o/
07:52 cait                  :)
07:54 alex_a                reiveune: i look for bug #6534
07:54 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6534 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Duplicate opac renew buttons at the top of the checkouts list
08:00 christophe_c          hi magnuse
08:01 magnuse               bonjour christophe_c and #koha
08:02 cait                  god morgen magnuse!
08:02 * cait                puts a big bowl of cookies in the middle of #koha
08:03 magnuse               ooh, nice, but i better get some proper breakfast first...
08:09 hdl                   cait: or magnuse can you test 5436 It appears to me that the faulty behaviour does not exist.
08:09 cait                  bug 5436
08:09 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements
08:09 hdl                   So should be marked as signed off
08:10 hdl                   It is blocking some other patches for inclusion
08:14 cait                  delivery guy!
08:14 magnuse               hdl: i can have a look after i get some food ;-)
08:15 * paul_p              working with clrh & francharb on RFCs of pending features... first /me cleaning wiki existing RFCs...
08:15 * clrh                listing all done / current / todo devs
08:16 reiveune              alex_a: i look for bug #5871
08:16 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5871 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CSS changes for OPAC
08:16 cait                  hdl: sorry, new laptop has arrived!
08:16 cait                  have to unpack and install some free software :)
08:17 magnuse               yay!
08:21 cait                  :)
08:32 paul_p                cait/magnuse/anyone : i've problems finding how to add categories to wiki pages
08:33 paul_p                could you help ? When I edit a new page, I just have : "Select categories:" and only "Home" category after the entry form
08:33 paul_p                am I missing something ?
08:33 paul_p                we use dokuwiki at BibLibre. It's hard to deal with more than 1 wiki syntax :(
08:33 cait                  sorry paul, don't know that - magnuse does :)
08:34 cait                  paul_p: using dokuwiki for my personal wiki too.. it is hard
08:34 paul_p                at the end, i've :
08:34 paul_p                Select categories:
08:34 paul_p                Home
08:34 paul_p                Summary:
08:34 paul_p                This is a minor edit  Watch this page
08:34 hdl                   bug 4836
08:34 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4836 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, illegal date
08:34 paul_p                magnuse, could you stop eating and come with us please ;-)
08:36 cait                  I think somethiing with the categories is broken
08:36 cait                  you have to add them using the wiki syntax
08:37 cait                  something like {...:...} perhaps
08:37 magnuse               [[Category:Categoryname]]
08:38 magnuse               sadly, you can't remove categories from a page, because of a malfunctioning plugin
08:38 paul_p                grrr... the RFC page is now badly unusable, because it mixes already implemented features and pending ones...
08:39 magnuse               paul_p: add [[Category:Categoryname]] to the bottom of a page to add it to the Categoryname category
08:39 paul_p                and how to add a category ?
08:39 paul_p                i wanted to have "implemented RFC" "submitted RFC" and "RFC"
08:40 magnuse               paul_p: what i just said... the cateogry is created when you use it
08:40 paul_p                to remove from the RFC page what is already in Koha, or what is waiting for sign-off
08:40 paul_p                magnuse, and how to have categories/sub-categories ?
08:40 paul_p                because RFC::implemented RFC would be good !
08:41 magnuse               you give the sub-category the category of the super-category
08:41 magnuse               well in and of themselves all categories are equal
08:41 magnuse               but you can categorize categories into a hierarchy
08:42 magnuse               so create the category "Implemented RFCs" (by using it) and then add [[Category:RFCs]] to the page for the "Implemented RFCs" category
08:44 magnuse               we should all go sit on gmcharlt until he at least disables the plugin that is messing with the categories ;-)
08:45 paul_p                magnuse++
08:45 paul_p                http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:RFCs
08:45 paul_p                => now shows "implemented RFC"
08:45 cait                  paul_p++ magnuse++ :)
08:45 paul_p                http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Implemented_RFC now show "Add support for NORMARC"
08:46 magnuse               yay!
08:46 magnuse               paul_p++
08:46 * paul_p              will now update the 82 RFCs to add a sub-category "Implemented RFC" or "Submitted RFC"
08:47 magnuse               even more yay!
08:51 cait                  go paul_p go :)
08:51 * cait                is trying to access her wifi with new laptop now
08:51 alex_a                reiveune: bug 4048
08:51 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths
08:52 alex_a                reiveune: oops, wrong bug
08:52 alex_a                bug 6314
08:52 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6314 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , UNIMARC OPAC XSL improvements
08:52 alex_a                :)
08:53 huginn                New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6080] Total is wrong in acqui-home.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6080>
08:54 Brooke                0/
08:54 paul_p                clrh, francharb StE serials RFC : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Add_subscription_serials_RFC
08:54 paul_p                hi Brooke !
08:54 Brooke                bonjour
08:54 paul_p                (1st example I see)
08:55 francharb             thanks paul_p
08:55 paul_p                mediawiki-- (at least our mediawiki. BIG bugs ...)
08:55 Brooke                fix the bugs :P
08:56 paul_p                (when on page http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Add_subscription_serials_RFC, clicking on the [Edit] link near "description", what i get is NOT what I expect...)
08:57 Brooke                yuck
08:57 * paul_p              already has a lot of things to do with Koha bugs ;-)
08:57 Brooke                alright, I'm well aware of the risk in asking this bloody question
08:57 Brooke                but how hard is wiki administration, anyway?
08:57 Brooke                I'm kind of tired of stuff being broken, too.
08:59 magnuse               paul_p: i'll agree that one is strange, when you lick on "edit" for something generated by a template you go to edit the template...
09:00 Brooke                mm hmm
09:02 sophie_m              bug 5878
09:03 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5878 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , overdue printing fixes and improvements
09:04 paul_p                clrh & francharb : http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=St+Etienne+University&go=Go is usefull !
09:05 paul_p                clrh, & francharb = most StE features already have the RFC
09:05 alex_a                fredericd: arround ?
09:06 francharb             paul_p: i think some of them changed during the project
09:07 cait                  paul_p_ StE?
09:07 paul_p                francharb, maybe, it was just to point you've already some entries
09:07 paul_p                cait, StE = "Saint Etienne university"
09:07 francharb             paul_p: ok, i will check them out!
09:11 cait                  thx paul_p
09:12 alex_a                @seen fredericd
09:12 huginn                alex_a: fredericd was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 1 day, 3 hours, 11 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <fredericd> thanks
09:12 alex_a                :O
09:13 magnuse               bug 6565
09:13 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6565 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Categories are broken on the wiki
09:29 reiveune              bug 6142
09:29 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6142 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , CanBookBeReserved function is redefined in C4/ILSDI/Utility.pm
09:38 caitnewlaptop         waves
09:38 Brooke                0/
09:39 * Brooke              puts her finger on cait's lappy to see what happens. ;)
09:39 cait                  hey
09:39 * cait                glares
09:40 magnuse               hiya caitnewlaptop
09:40 cait                  gonna install ubuntu know - confirmed internet working :P
09:41 cait                  know= now
09:45 magnuse               hdl: sorry, i still see the "renewed" message related to bug 5436
09:45 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements
09:46 hdl                   magnuse: I CANT reproduce that.
09:46 hdl                   So either attach your db to that bug
09:46 hdl                   Or fix that.
09:47 cait                  hdl?
09:47 hdl                   please.
09:47 paul_p                mmm... someone is doing something on the wiki ? suddenly, categories are working !
09:48 magnuse               hdl: not sure i can fix it, but i'll try and see what is causing it
09:52 hdl                   magnuse: or you can send me a data.sql and i will push that on git.biblibre.com/data.git
09:55 magnuse               hdl: i'll have a look at the code first...
09:57 huginn                New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6142] CanBookBeReserved function is redefined in C4/ILSDI/Utility.pm <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6142>
09:59 Brooke                "Creating subcategories takes only a few additional steps. Adding a category tag to a category page makes the edited category a subcategory of the category specified in the tag." Fine example of why no one reads the manual. Silly mediawiki docudrone.
10:04 alex_a                bug 2809
10:04 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2809 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED , Some search problems
10:08 reiveune              bug 5621
10:08 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5621 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, amit.gupta, ASSIGNED , Google Translation for indian languages.
10:09 alex_a                reiveune: i don't understand this bug
10:10 reiveune              it' true alex_a
10:10 reiveune              bug 5983
10:10 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5983 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Change the wording around the CAS login
10:10 reiveune              :-D
10:10 alex_a                There are 2 patches. The fisrt did not apply. But both are totaly different
10:19 cait                  I thik 6568 had already a patch somewhere
10:19 huginn                New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6566] Checking if DB records are properly indexed <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6566>
10:19 cait                  bug 6568
10:19 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6568 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , GetPendingIssues when no relatives provoke bad SQL request
10:20 cait                  bug 6280
10:20 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6280 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Invalid SQL being passed in circulation checkout
10:20 cait                  and it's signed off
10:21 cait                  paul_p?
10:31 Brooke                0/
10:35 paul_p                cait, yes ?
10:35 * paul_p              strart to be hungry...
10:35 cait                  ah, was not sure who was working on that bugs
10:36 cait                  ordering pizza today? ;)
10:36 * Brooke              hands paul_p a croque-monsieur
10:36 cait                  i marked it duplicate - but you might want to check the code
10:41 Brooke                fixingyourmistakewithouthavingtopesterpaul++
10:42 alex_a                @Marseille [NEED-LUNCH]
10:42 huginn                alex_a: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
10:42 * Brooke              hands alex_a a french onion soup.
10:42 alex_a                Brooke: oh thanks
10:42 Brooke                if you guys would just get on the enhancement request for a teleporter, you wouldn't all be starving. ;)
10:43 alex_a                Brooke: héhé :)
10:51 hdl                   cait: nice... Glad to see that my morning was just useless
10:52 cait                  hdl: excuse me?
10:52 cait                  sorry, but i shouted out as fast as I saw it could be already fixed
10:52 cait                  I might be wrong - perhaps checking the code will show if the other patch is still needed
10:52 cait                  or which is perhaps better
10:53 hdl                   never mind. Just me moaning
10:56 hdl                   I should just have done  what was planned : singing off and not trying to solve problems i saw.
10:56 Brooke                0/
10:57 druthb                o//
11:03 cait                  hi druthb
11:03 * cait                has messed with the partitions and is stuck :(
11:04 Brooke                blech #reasonsIdon'thaveKohaonmymacpro
11:05 druthb                #reasonsIuseVirtualBoxratherthandualboot.
11:05 magnuse               hdl: want me to send mysqldumps to dev_patches@... ?
11:05 Brooke                this would be triple boot fwiw :P
11:05 slef                  hi all... it was a good breakfast but bleah to koha-devel :)
11:05 magnuse               virtualbox++
11:06 slef                  hdl: yeah, mixing signing and fixing gets messy quick :-/
11:06 hdl                   magnuse: please
11:07 hdl                   well... slef can't refrain to fix kind of a blocker when I see one
11:07 cait                  I can understand, but filing bug report before fixing is good
11:08 cait                  give me a chance to tell you earlier ;)
11:08 slef                  hdl: yeah, but do that then, not sign off
11:09 hdl                   well. in order to test something, you need to have something that works.
11:09 Brooke                0/
11:20 * Brooke              is wielding teh 4//350//3 p0//312 of teh 5ubc4+39012y
11:21 * druthb              blinks.
11:22 * slef                loses that at the end of the last word
11:23 slef                  goiry?
11:24 Brooke                subcategory.
11:25 magnuse               ah
11:27 Brooke                0/
11:31 Barrc_                Can anyone point me to the SIP install/config documentation. It seems to be gone from the docs page
11:32 cait                  which page are you looking for?
11:36 magnuse               gotta run, bbl
11:37 Barrc_                There used to be a page (I think in the manual) that explains about the SIPServer.xml page, how to modify it and then how to run SIP
11:37 Barrc_                I know most of it, I have just having a strange problem with a 93 string and I wanted to reference some install instructions to make sure I have it setup correctly
11:40 cait                  sorry Barrc I can't find the page
11:41 Barrc_                me neither!
11:42 Barrc_                In fact, there is nothing anywhere anymore about configuring the SIP server!
11:43 Brooke                I suspect the material is still someplace, it's just a bear to find.
11:45 cait                  perhaps not moved from the old wiki?
11:45 huginn                New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6314] UNIMARC OPAC XSL improvements <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6314>
11:46 Barrc_                yep, maybe. I'll keep searching - thanks.
11:54 oleonard              What's up, globsquad?
11:55 cait                  hi oleonard
11:55 hdl                   oleonard: hi
11:55 * cait                is installing koha on her new laptop :D
11:58 hdl                   patch for bug 5436 due to template toolkit change.
11:58 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements
11:58 hdl                   Bye bye 5436
11:58 cait                  :)
12:02 cait                  sorry
12:02 cait                  old laptop is not happy today
12:06 oleonard              I don't blame it.
12:07 hdl                   oops there is a branch for that :D
12:07 cait                  oleonard: yeah, probably knows I plan to replace it
12:08 hdl                   I am trying to apply patches from the bugs... multi workflow--
12:31 hdl                   oleonard: bug 5009 : how does one activate auto completion ?
12:31 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5009 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , add autocomplete="off" to borrowernumbers and barcode forms
12:33 oleonard              The patch disables the browser's built-in form autocompletion
12:33 oleonard              The AJAX autocomplete is unchanged
12:33 oleonard              Is that what you mean?
12:38 oleonard              Can anyone elaborate on Bug 6116? julian? What is the incorrect behavior? To test do I start by adding a child to an existing adult or by creating a new child record?
12:38 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6116 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , Adding child patron: library not set
12:41 julian                oleonard, looking...
12:41 hdl                   oleonard: ok got it
12:46 julian                oleonard, to test 6116, you must create a new child, and then define a guarantor. The child's library must be set to guarantor's library
12:50 oleonard              julian: How does the bug appear?
12:53 julian                oleonard, i'm not sure to understand your question... before this patch, the child library was not set to guarantor library
12:55 oleonard              Thanks julian, it's me that didn't understand. I get it now.
13:39 library_systems_guy   morning #koha
13:40 sekjal                morning, library_systems_guy
13:43 cait                  hi sekjal :)
13:43 cait                  hi library_systems_guy
13:43 sekjal                hi, cait
13:43 cait                  take a seat, claim a bug :P
13:43 library_systems_guy   hey cait, sekjal
13:43 library_systems_guy   yeah what is up with the uptick in bug squashing?
13:44 sekjal                cait:  reviewing the patches list now, and then after some other work, I'll set to pushing things through QA
13:45 oleonard              library_systems_guy: Global Bug Squashing Day
13:45 library_systems_guy   nice
13:49 oleonard              alex_a: Two paragraphs of instructions have been removed by your patch for Bug 6133. Is that in deference to the online help?
13:49 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6133 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Authorised values administration, warn for modifs
13:51 cait                  sekal: :)
13:52 hdl                   mmmm
13:58 alex_a                oleonard: don't understand ?
13:59 oleonard              Why does that patch remove two paragraphs of instructions from the page?
14:01 alex_a                oleonard: i try to remember why
14:04 alex_a                hdl, paul_p do you remember why we did that ?
14:04 alex_a                or is it just my (bad) idea ?
14:05 oleonard              I could be argued that the online help should provide this information
14:05 oleonard              I wondered if that was the justification
14:05 alex_a                may be we got displaying problems with both warning and instructions
14:06 cait1                 hi :)
14:07 ciat                  t
14:07 jcamins_away          ciat: I think you misspelled your name. :)
14:07 ciat                  yeah, still wrong?
14:07 ciat                  had a mistake in my pidgin configuration
14:07 ciat                  hi jcamins :)
14:07 ciat                  I am baking almond-cherry-cake
14:07 jcamins_away          I have to say, it's very disorienting. ;)
14:08 jcamins_away          The i and a are in the wrong order.
14:08 jcamins_away          Mmm.
14:08 cait                  better?
14:08 jcamins_away          Much, thank you.
14:08 paul_p                alex_a, & oleonard we did that because it should be in online help, oleonard is right
14:09 alex_a                paul_p: thx
14:09 alex_a                oleonard: are you ok with that ?
14:10 oleonard              Yes, I just wanted to make sure I understood why
14:10 * oleonard            is reformatting the patch for T:T with some formatting changes
14:10 paul_p                oleonard++
14:10 cait                  oleonard++ :)
14:11 alex_a                oleonard++
14:11 alex_a                :)
14:11 paul_p                jcamins_away, I think you misspelled too: you're not away if you "speak" here :D
14:11 jcamins_away          paul_p: I'll be leaving for a bus shortly.
14:12 nengard               oleonard do you know the bug number for that feature that was being worked on to add the 'back to results' and next/previous links to the opac detail page?
14:12 paul_p                (was kidding ;-) )
14:12 jcamins_away          paul_p: I know.
14:14 oleonard              Bug 6483
14:14 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search
14:14 alex_a                jcamins_away: then, it should be better jcamins_leaving_for_a_bus_shortly
14:14 alex_a                ;)
14:14 alex_a                =>[]
14:17 jcamins_away          alex_a: people get annoyed when my nick is longer than my average sentence length (and I write long sentences!). ;)
14:18 * cait                shares some cake with #koha
14:21 hdl                   magnus_away: at least I have the bug too
14:38 cait                  reproducable_bugs++
14:43 jcamins_away          Woohoo! I just closed 18 bugs!
14:44 * library_systems_guy claps for jcamins_away
14:44 library_systems_guy   and hand over cookies
14:45 * slef                is jealous :)
14:45 slef                  jcamins_away++
14:45 cait                  :)
14:45 cait                  me too
14:46 cait                  but about to clone the koha git repository now - almost there
14:46 jcamins_away          19.
14:46 library_systems_guy   i feel like this is lord of the rings...bugs version
14:46 slef                  jcamins_away: I hope they're not going to come back as REOPENED!
14:47 jcamins_away          slef: I hope not too.
14:56 wizzyrea              cait did you ever get into G+
14:57 oleonard              Do I understand correctly that to have barcodes show up on the patrons list of checkouts in the OPAC you have to set a patron attribute type for them?
14:58 cait                  wizzyrea: have to try that later
14:58 cait                  got new laptop today and busy installing koha :)
14:58 wizzyrea              oh cool it came!
14:59 cait                  yep, in the morning today :)
15:02 oleonard              my $show_barcode = C4::Members::AttributeTypes::AttributeTypeExists( ATTRIBUTE_SHOW_BARCODE );
15:02 oleonard              ?
15:02 sekjal                oleonard:  determines whether to show the item's barcode in the OPAC My Summary; configurable on a per-person basis using Extended Attributes
15:07 oleonard              What code and value are required?
15:07 sekjal                links to YesNo authorized value list
15:08 cait                  an authorized value list for yes/no?
15:08 oleonard              sekjal: "SHOW_BCODE" is the code?
15:09 sekjal                I believe so, yes, oleonard
15:09 reiveune              bye
15:10 sekjal                I'll readily admit that it's kind of a strange way of doing it, but it seems to work
15:11 oleonard              Yeah, seems to work.
15:13 oleonard              Is that documented?
15:20 rhcl_away             RE: G+   - It appears you can invite anyone in your email list. I just got in.
15:21 wizzyrea              yea they opened it up a day or so ago
15:21 wizzyrea              from invite only
15:30 wizzyrea              ohh there goes atlantis
15:33 jcamins_away          Time to head to MD.
15:35 sekjal                oleonard:  I'm hoping nengard can get you a link to that, once she's free
15:35 wizzyrea              safe travels jcamins
15:44 cait                  apache--
15:44 wizzyrea              !
15:44 cait                  I am sorry
15:44 cait                  only a little frustrated
15:44 cait                  apache++
15:45 wizzyrea              hehe no
15:45 wizzyrea              apache can be a pain sometimes
15:45 cait                  it's probably a typo somewhere in my config or something
15:46 cait                  oh ysay
15:47 cait                  it was a typo in the mysql connection
15:49 SirDekar              hi, could anyone provide me a working tutorial to install and set up Koha server please?
15:49 cait                  yay!
15:50 cait                  SirDekar: there is lots of documentation for different os
15:50 cait                  which os are you using?
15:50 SirDekar              I know
15:50 SirDekar              I can get any, now I tried with debian squeeze
15:50 SirDekar              32bits
15:51 cait                  have you checked the install files that come with koha?
15:51 SirDekar              yup
15:51 cait                  in your koha folder you should have files like INSTALL.*
15:51 SirDekar              It says lenny
15:51 SirDekar              should I get lenny instead of squeeze?
15:52 cait                  it shoul dnot be so different
15:52 cait                  you can also use the packages from debian.koha-community.org to install koha
15:52 SirDekar              yes, in INSTALL.debian they mention lenny
15:52 cait                  gonna reboot, will be back
15:53 SirDekar              ok
15:53 nengard               sekjal oleonard http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/opacmyaccount.html#opacmysummary
15:54 nengard               under the second image is where it starts
15:54 oleonard              Thanks nengard
15:58 cait                  back
16:12 SirDekar              too
16:13 SirDekar              this repository "deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main" keeps saying broken packages
16:13 cait                  I installed koha-common from there today
16:14 cait                  it seemed to work nicely
16:14 SirDekar              which is your OS?
16:14 cait                  ubuntu 11.4
16:15 SirDekar              is it 32bits or 64bits?
16:18 cait                  64
16:18 cait                  but I have a dev installation with git, using the packages only to get the dependencies installed
16:21 clrh                  bye all
16:22 slef                  I don't know if the packages are OK at the mo. Anyone know besides eyethian?
16:22 cait                  I think ther eis no working package for 3.4
16:22 cait                  you are right
16:22 slef                  but for 3.2 on squeeze should still work?
16:22 cait                  i think so
16:23 slef                  http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian about the packages
16:32 SirDekar              got to lunch, thanks cait for your help
16:32 SirDekar              brb in 1 hour
16:38 huginn                New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6484] Due date sorter on 'my summary' missing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6484>
16:39 Brooke                0/
17:19 nengard_lunch         oleonard i don't understand what 6569 fixes
17:19 huginn                New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6569] Split menu button not working with "search to hold" operations <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6569>
17:19 oleonard              Do you understand what I mean by the split button?
17:19 nengard               oh! is it only when you're doing the search to hold for the patron
17:19 nengard               yes
17:19 nengard               i mean - no i don't
17:20 nengard               hehe
17:20 oleonard              After you click "search to hold" from a patron's record, perform a search.
17:20 oleonard              When you get your search results, the "Place hold" button has a little down arrow for expanding a menu
17:21 nengard               okay
17:21 nengard               understand that now
17:21 oleonard              For me at least, clicking the down arrow submits the button instead of just displaying the menu
17:22 nengard               hmm
17:22 Brooke                paste screenshot?
17:22 nengard               not for me
17:22 Brooke                webcast?
17:23 nengard               when i click the down arrow it works
17:23 nengard               but i'll test anyway :)
17:23 nengard               okay after applying your patch it still works for me :)
17:23 nengard               should i sign off
17:23 nengard               what browser are you in?
17:24 slef                  hahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha
17:24 nengard               ?
17:25 slef                  nm, that email.
17:25 oleonard              nengard: Firefox 3.6.
17:25 nengard               hmm
17:25 nengard               me too
17:26 nengard               wait
17:26 nengard               no ... i'm so brain dead
17:26 nengard               I'm in FF 5
17:26 nengard               so maybe someone with an older browser needs to test
17:26 oleonard              The bug happens for me in Chrome too
17:28 slef                  So... the unpublishable state of the EDIFACT code, with the hardcoding and never applying to master, is not the fault of the developer we contracted and no longer use. I struggle to express my reply in words. Maybe sekjal can offer an independent view on it, else I'll just write something short and sweet.
17:30 nengard               oleonard i'll try in chrome
17:32 nengard               okay - works in chrome for me with and without the patch
17:39 * oleonard            grumbles
17:42 oleonard              No wonder no one complained about it not working... Apparently it's only broken for me
17:48 oleonard              ...but with every browser I try.
17:51 nengard               oleonard have you tried another computer?
18:10 oleonard              Doesn't happen on the Bywater demo fwiw
18:11 sekjal                slef:  I'll address the EDIFACT comment
18:18 wizzyrea              fwiw, published criteria for how to get listed http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/how-to-get-listed/
18:18 library_systems_guy   w00t got a G+ invite :D
18:18 wizzyrea              :) yay!
18:18 wizzyrea              (look me up)
18:19 wizzyrea              (if you want)
18:19 nengard               library_systems_guy should have told me or wizzyrea we could have invited you ages ago :)
18:19 nengard               i'm there too
18:21 library_systems_guy   wizzyrea: what is your email?
18:21 wizzyrea              wizzyrea@gmail.com, of course.
18:21 wizzyrea              ;)
18:21 library_systems_guy   found you :D
18:23 library_systems_guy   i think it is funny that google suggested that i friend all of the Koha devels and none of my college friends
18:23 wizzyrea              hee
18:24 wizzyrea              well, uh, did you add me as one of the first?
18:24 wizzyrea              that might be why it suggested that way
18:25 library_systems_guy   umm actually i added my programming friends in Cali lol
18:25 library_systems_guy   IT KNOWS...
18:25 library_systems_guy   lol
18:25 wizzyrea              :)
18:34 library_systems_guy   ahh its so hard to find Koha devels on here because I don't know anybodies real name lol
18:54 Brooke                0/
19:04 seneca                Does anyone have a link to instructions for upgrading the VM appliance (probably through Git, I think) from v 3.02 to current?
19:06 seneca                *crickets* :)
19:08 oleonard              Why does clicking "check out" on an empty circulation.pl checkout form trigger a print receipt window?
19:08 oleonard              This feature was added as being turned on by default?
19:08 wizzyrea              whoa that's not cool
19:09 wizzyrea              anybody here still need a g+ invite?
19:09 wizzyrea              I have some
19:09 oleonard              Of course I could be wrong wizzyrea. Today my installation is haunted.
19:10 wizzyrea              hmm
19:10 wizzyrea              let me update
19:10 wizzyrea              what did you do, look up a patron
19:11 wizzyrea              then submit an empty form?
19:11 oleonard              Yeah, with a patron open and ready for checking something out, click check out with nothing in the barcode field
19:11 wizzyrea              yes, it does do that for me too
19:12 wizzyrea              I don't see a preference to control it
19:12 wizzyrea              maybe in local use
19:12 * wizzyrea            checks
19:13 seneca                Does anyone have any generic Koha update-via-git steps I can try? Related - any reason I can't go directly from 3.02 to current?
19:13 wizzyrea              AHA
19:13 oleonard              No, I found the markup. It's not controlled by a preference.
19:13 wizzyrea              oo
19:13 wizzyrea              nm then
19:13 wizzyrea              but there is one in local use
19:13 wizzyrea              "printcirculationslips"
19:13 oleonard              I'm surprised rangi hasn't already spotted this one, it breaks the old behavior of clicking the check out button to clear the screen.
19:13 oleonard              Speaking of whom... where is rangi?
19:14 wizzyrea              weekend ;)
19:14 oleonard              That usually doesn't stop him from being logged in
19:14 wizzyrea              something about the way you said that reminded me of the guy in LOTR -- the elf king/consort guy in lothlorien
19:14 wizzyrea              "Where is gandalf? I have many things to speak with him about"
19:16 Brooke                wizzyrea++
19:16 oleonard              The only reference I find in the code to printcirculationslips is in Print.pm
19:17 wizzyrea              odd
19:17 oleonard              Bug 4389
19:17 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4389 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Trigger quick slip print on empty checkout submit
19:18 * oleonard            doesn't like that at all
19:18 wizzyrea              that really ought to be a preference
19:19 oleonard              And it ought to clear the screen in the process.
19:19 wizzyrea              *nod*
19:21 oleonard              The things we do to save a click.
19:21 oleonard              I wonder how many times a librarian is going to dismiss that print dialog because they didn't really mean to print the slip *again*
19:22 wizzyrea              in our case, how many wasted miles of paper
19:22 wizzyrea              since we print automagically
19:23 wizzyrea              imma comment on that
19:26 seneca                OK, I think I found something - but I'm getting errors connecting to git.koha.org
19:26 oleonard              As well you should!
19:26 oleonard              git.koha-community.org
19:26 seneca                hey - it worked last time I upgraded ;)
19:27 seneca                ok, that makes sense
19:27 seneca                I'm just running the default "git fetch origin" - where should I change git.koha.org to git.koha-community.org? (I can probably grep for it)
19:29 seneca                ok, grepping in the kohaclone folder didn't help...
19:30 seneca                any hints would be appreciated
19:31 oleonard              http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2010-May/034052.html
19:31 jcamins_away          git remote add kc git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git
19:31 jcamins_away          git fetch kc
19:32 jcamins_away          git checkout -b master kc/master
19:32 jcamins_away          That will create a new remote.
19:33 sekjal                okay, all, I'm pushing signed off bugs through QA.  Starting with the highest severity ones first, but I'll take requests, if anyone has something that's pending QA
19:34 seneca                thanks !
19:34 jcamins_away          I think this bus is shaking itself to pieces.
19:35 seneca                You're on a bus?
19:35 jcamins_away          Yes. Or coach, if that's the word you prefer.
19:36 seneca                Ah, 2011. How I love you so.
19:38 seneca                Hmm, the commands that jcamins_away posted disagree with the instructions in oleonard's link...
19:38 seneca                Who wins?
19:38 jcamins_away          oleonard.
19:38 seneca                well ok
19:38 jcamins_away          My way definitely works, but it does something slightly different.
19:38 jcamins_away          Probably.
19:38 seneca                or not - my git (on debian) doens't like the "set-url"
19:38 seneca                which is in the oleonard link
19:39 oleonard              seneca: See the follow-up message: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2010-May/034054.html
19:39 oleonard              ..and http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2010-May/034057.html
19:40 jcamins_away          Ah. Well, I don't know about that. The commands I suggested are what I use to configure my git, since I have an irregularly updated local mirror to save on bandwidth.
19:40 jcamins_away          They will also work in your situation.
19:42 seneca                My git was old - I thought I had dist-upgraded this box recently, but had not. Doing that now and it should fix itself. Thanks for the hints
19:42 seneca                after switching to the new remote, will the normal ~6 git upgrade steps work as usual?
19:46 oleonard              Which steps are you referring to seneca?
19:47 seneca                Oh, the ones I found in my bash history. ;) ...
19:47 seneca                1. git fetch origin
19:47 seneca                2. git checkout origin/master
19:47 seneca                3. git branch -M master old_master
19:47 seneca                4. git checkout master
19:47 seneca                5. git branch master
19:48 seneca                those
19:48 seneca                I'm assuming they worked last time... It's been a while since I've upgraded this install
19:52 seneca                sorry - blinked out there for second
19:52 seneca                closed the wrong tab...
19:55 oleonard              Good globsquadding today folks. Til next time,
19:59 seneca                erm... git's telling me I have local changes to etc/koha.conf.xml and that I can't switch branches... I don't remember changing anything, but I'll take its word. Anyone know a workaround?
19:59 sekjal                seneca:  git diff will show you what's changed locally
19:59 sekjal                so you can see if it's important to keep or not
20:00 sekjal                if so, you can do 'git stash', then change branches, and 'git stash apply' to reply the chances to etc/koha-conf.xml (if they still apply)
20:01 seneca                Cool, thanks. Can you tell I never use git except for randomly upgrading my Koha install? I think the only diff is one less space at the beginning of one line
20:01 seneca                I'll try your git stash recommendation
20:02 seneca                actually, I just added the space
20:03 seneca                seems happy with it
20:06 seneca                OK, finished with the last git command I had (git checkout master) - are there more steps?
20:07 seneca                getting some errors: libraries.mvschool.com
20:08 library_systems_guy   seneca: do you have the path set correctly for the perl lib and koha conf
20:09 seneca                I think so - I'l re-export them
20:09 seneca                yeah
20:10 library_systems_guy   oh yeah i see that now...oops
20:10 seneca                the first error seems odd - is it saying it can't find "Templates.pm" _in_ Templates.pm?"
20:10 seneca                er -s
20:10 library_systems_guy   does that file exist in C4?
20:11 seneca                Ha! No, but the plural version does
20:11 seneca                lemme symlink a fix...
20:11 library_systems_guy   *smh* lol
20:12 seneca                hmm
20:12 seneca                ok, that didn't fix it
20:13 seneca                looking at the first error again, the thing it can't find is singular, but the file in C4 referenced is the (correct) plural
20:14 library_systems_guy   and you have the Template module installed from Cpan
20:14 library_systems_guy   or wherever you might have installed it from...so TT will run correctly
20:15 seneca                I guess I did before... Where is that module/file to be located?
20:16 library_systems_guy   umm somebody else may have to help me out on that one...
20:16 library_systems_guy   i can never remember what the package is called
20:16 library_systems_guy   libperl-something i think
20:17 seneca                I have files named Template.pm in multiple locations, including the current clone dir
20:18 library_systems_guy   you were upgrading correct? sorry i came in late on the convo with sekjal
20:18 seneca                yeah (and I appreciate yours and everyone else's help)
20:18 seneca                from 3.02 to current
20:18 library_systems_guy   hmm, did you re-run make?
20:19 seneca                post gitting?
20:19 library_systems_guy   yes
20:19 library_systems_guy   first
20:19 seneca                nope
20:19 library_systems_guy   beware that it might modify your koha-conf file
20:19 seneca                I've got backups
20:19 library_systems_guy   ok cool *phew*
20:20 library_systems_guy   id try ru-running make
20:20 seneca                let me do that - it makes sense that that's a required step, I just didn't know about it...
20:20 library_systems_guy   ok lets see how that works out
20:21 seneca                being asked how I want to install Koha - this menu is new to me..reading now
20:21 library_systems_guy   dev
20:21 library_systems_guy   so...it is rebuilding your makefile for you
20:21 seneca                think so, yeah
20:21 library_systems_guy   good thing you have backups
20:21 library_systems_guy   :D
20:21 seneca                I suppose if I'm using the old VM appliance and running from git I want "dev" right?
20:22 seneca                always :)
20:22 library_systems_guy   correct
20:25 seneca                ok, re-ran make
20:25 seneca                same errors :(
20:25 library_systems_guy   :'(
20:26 library_systems_guy   hmm...im a little stumped
20:27 seneca                hmmm, well, thanks for your help
20:27 library_systems_guy   sorry seneca...im still a little new as well
20:27 seneca                no worries!
20:28 seneca                I appreciate the time
20:28 library_systems_guy   i hope you get it figured out :)
20:28 seneca                me too :)
20:29 seneca                look - all fixed (wink)
20:30 library_systems_guy   heh
20:30 seneca                just putting the clone dir back from the copy I made pre-process fixed it, I think...
20:31 seneca                I'll investigate the differences between the two clone dirs
20:31 library_systems_guy   hmm...odd indeed
20:41 seneca                Ha! Progress, sort of!
20:48 seneca                HA!
20:49 seneca                solved it - just had to upgrade the Template perl module
20:49 library_systems_guy   yayy seneca++
20:49 seneca                man, I'm really bad about keeping this updated!
20:50 seneca                thanks for all your help lsg, if I may call you that
20:51 wizzyrea              oh yea
20:51 wizzyrea              I bet the VM uses H::T::P
20:51 wizzyrea              and we now use T::T
20:51 wizzyrea              derr
20:51 seneca                and my vm does as well
20:52 seneca                no worries - there are just a FEW things to remember... ;)
20:52 library_systems_guy   of course seneca
20:52 seneca                I'm documenting this experience for myself so that I don't have to bug so many people next time!
20:52 library_systems_guy   haha yeah i started doing that in a blog...but it is in need of an update
20:53 magnuse               library_systems_guy: i'm "magnus enger" on g+... ;-)
20:53 magnuse               and kudos to everyone who has contributed to gbsd - so far!
20:54 library_systems_guy   you are in my Koha circle magnuse
20:54 seneca                hehe - I just got my invite and account set up - I was going to see if anyone wanted an invite as payment for helping me out :)
20:54 magnuse               library_systems_guy: yay!
20:54 library_systems_guy   wizzyrea: where did you find that pic of the GGS
20:54 seneca                I'm Bryan Lakatos on g+
20:54 library_systems_guy   err G+GS
20:54 wizzyrea              dunno, someone in my stream
20:54 wizzyrea              posted it
20:55 library_systems_guy   thats awesome
20:56 seneca                I'm more than happy to help anyone with their run of the mill, non git or koha related Linux questions ;)
20:56 library_systems_guy   how about ppl who are banging their heads against the wall with drupal
20:57 seneca                man, we use Joomla here
20:57 seneca                but I'll gladly do what I can
20:57 seneca                if you want to vent
20:57 library_systems_guy   its ok...just momentary frustration with upgrades
20:58 seneca                must be a theme today
20:58 library_systems_guy   but thanks seneca
20:58 library_systems_guy   exactly welcome to gbsd day :p
20:58 library_systems_guy   that was redundant...sorry
20:58 seneca                sure thing - g+ me if there's anything else you need help for
20:58 seneca                haha
20:59 library_systems_guy   bbl #koha
21:01 magnuse               have fun, #koha!
21:07 seneca                And that makes it a weekend (whatever that's good for). Take care all!
21:08 bg                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNwLeLs7sSQ  go to the 1:41 mark -- you'll see "our" NateC
21:10 wizzyrea              :O
21:10 wizzyrea              lucky duckie!
21:18 gmcharlt              here's my office mate of the moment - http://www.flickr.com/photos/gmcharlt/5916213973/in/photostream
21:19 wizzyrea              omgosh... that is an adorable kitten
21:19 wizzyrea              reminds me of my cat when he was a kitten
21:19 wizzyrea              huge ears, dirty nose, shifty face ;)
21:19 gmcharlt              :)
21:20 wizzyrea              more like "excuse me, the flash woke me from my nap"
21:23 rhcl                  like  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gmcharlt/4729689585/in/photostream/
21:24 rhcl                  Time for the baseball game.  LTR
22:01 wizzyrea              later peeps!
22:02 bg                    later wizzyrea
22:34 cait                  hi #koha
22:37 bg                    hey cait
22:37 cait                  hi bg :)
22:37 bg                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNwLeLs7sSQ --> check that out - it's NateC at the 1:41 mark
22:37 cait                  @wunder Konstanz
22:37 huginn                cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.7�C (12:35 AM CEST on July 09, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).
22:37 bg                    @wunder 93109
22:37 huginn                bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.2�C (3:36 PM PDT on July 08, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Falling).
22:37 bg                    ouch hot here
22:37 cait                  yeah
22:37 cait                  and rain here
22:38 bg                    NateC went to the last shuttle launch today :D
22:38 cait                  watching
22:38 cait                  :)
22:38 bg                    you met him in NZ right?
22:38 cait                  yes
22:38 bg                    thought so
22:38 cait                  :)
22:39 cait                  oh i see him!
22:45 bg                    :)
23:10 cait                  time to sleep - bye  bg and #koha