Time Nick Message 00:06 Brooke back 00:07 rangi wb Brooke 00:07 Brooke :) 00:12 Space_Librarian 'lo 00:14 rangi heya Irma 00:14 Irma Hi rangi Welcome back downunder :-) 00:15 Irma not too jet lagged? 00:15 rangi thanks, just a bit 00:15 rangi you guys are presenting today eh? 00:15 Irma yep and tomorrow 00:15 Irma 10 presentations in all 00:15 rangi busy busy 00:16 Irma some solo and some shared with eythian 00:16 Irma nice hosts 00:16 Irma I just found the hotel library 00:16 Irma a multicultural and lingual collection 00:16 Irma of 30 books ... and a manual register for circ. 00:17 Irma I am drawn to libraries like Pooh Bear to honey! 00:18 rangi :-) 00:18 Irma better go and get last preps under way and fetch Robin from the pool side ... just kidding about the pool side 00:18 Space_Librarian just watch out for the heffalumps and woozles! 00:18 Brooke 0/ 00:18 Brooke brb 00:19 Irma will do and talk soon ;) 00:19 Irma Ciao! 00:19 jransom hi all 00:19 Space_Librarian hey jo! 00:20 Brooke back 00:21 jransom its bloody cold here today.glad to be curled on couch at home with fire roaring 00:21 * Brooke flexes her lumberjack muscles. 00:22 jransom just as well we got all that wood chopped last time you were here 01:11 jo connor: 01:11 jo type this: /join #brooke 01:11 jo connor: type this: 01:44 rangi good to see prosentient getting involved in koha development :) 01:44 jo heya chris 01:45 rangi heya jo 01:49 Brooke just thought that rangi 02:14 Brooke 0/ 04:09 druthb o/ 04:10 Oak \o 04:11 * druthb hugs Oak. 04:13 Oak :) 04:16 Oak i'm not at home. and when i'm home i'm not at home 04:17 * Oak listening to Clint Mansell & Peter Broderick - Not At Home 04:25 rangi oh man i missed wizzy 04:30 cait morning #koha 04:36 danmc morning cait. 04:36 danmc night #koha ;) 04:36 cait night danmc 04:44 Judit hi 04:44 cait hi Judit 04:45 rangi hi cait and Judit 04:46 cait hi rangi 04:46 cait how was monday? 04:46 rangi still got 15 mins of work left, but pretty good 04:47 Judit i have a quick yuestion: in OPAC you have theoption to view the details of a book in NOrmal, MARC, and ISBD- how do you remove the mARC View 04:47 cait hm 04:47 cait might be there is a pref for that 04:47 cait if not you can use css 04:47 rangi or jquery 04:48 Judit you i was trying the sysref, just cannot figure it out whoch one 04:48 rangi css is probably easier 04:48 Judit thanks 04:49 cait yep 04:49 cait something like 04:49 cait #MARCview { display: none; } 04:50 cait into opacusercss 04:51 cait hi Irma 04:51 cait how is the workshop? have you started? 04:51 Judit hi Irma 05:21 Judit i still cannot find the syspref to hide the MARC view in OPAC, but i have checked a Koha 3.5 - the MARC and ISBD view is no longer there 05:28 cait hm 05:28 cait they should, marc view looks a bit different but I think isbd view should still showup 05:29 Judit i have ckecked 2 3.2 and 2 3.5Kohas 05:30 Judit 3.2- was there, 3.5 not there 05:30 cait they don't show in opac and you have not switched them off? 05:30 Judit no, cean install 05:30 cait I see them both in my test installation 05:30 Judit hm 05:30 cait using master 05:30 Judit me no happy :) 05:32 Judit i try to compare the sysprefs of 3.2 and 3.5, but no luck so far 05:33 Judit to find the setting and turn it of 05:35 cait viewLabeledMARC and viewMARC should work for intranet 05:36 Judit staff to view records 05:37 cait you can use the css I posted earlier 05:37 cait I can't find a syspref too - was not sure about it 05:37 Judit thank you cait- it is just so annoying 05:38 cait the views? 05:38 Judit not finding the syspref 05:38 cait ah, there is none I think 05:39 cait I was not sure if it was added after 3.2.x 05:39 Judit but then how come it is not there in 3.5 05:39 cait there are only prefs for intranet, not for opac it seems 05:39 cait it's moved 05:39 cait to the top -perhaps this is confusing ou? 05:39 cait it's above the title now, nto below 05:41 Judit :d wow i am blind too, it is above the title indeed 06:12 francharb hello all 06:12 Judit hi 06:12 wahanui salut, Judit 06:23 cait hi francharb 06:24 alex_a bonjour #koha 06:51 reiveune hello 06:52 clrh hi 06:52 wahanui bonjour, clrh 07:10 kf morning #koha 07:11 alex_a hi kf :) 07:11 kf bonjour alex_a :) 07:12 alex_a it's the first time i greet kf before cait :) 07:12 Judit :D 07:13 kf cait was here before - so you were probably late at work today? ;) 07:15 kf lots of koha things on twitter - the workshop in malaysia has started apparently :) 07:16 alex_a great 07:17 Judit do you have a link kf? 07:18 kf Judit: check #koha and #kohails 07:18 Judit i have never used twitter 07:19 Judit all good 07:20 kf http://twitter.com/#!/search/kohails 07:21 kf http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23koha 07:21 kf it's not a lot of tweets 07:29 magnuse kia ora #koha 07:29 kf mornign magnuse 07:29 magnuse guten tag kf 07:30 magnuse last day of work before 4 weeks holiday (if all goes well) 07:31 kf yay :) 07:32 magnuse this week in koha: 07:32 magnuse wednesday: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_Meeting,_6_July_2011 07:33 magnuse friday: global bug squashing day - globsquad 07:35 magnuse kia ora paul_p! 07:35 paul_p hello #koha 07:36 paul_p good monday ! 07:36 magnuse paul_p: your bug squashing day is still on friday, right? 07:36 paul_p magnuse, yep. I wanted to remind it to you, to see if we announce something on koha-devel 07:37 magnuse that might be a good idea 07:37 magnuse do you want to do it, or should i? 07:39 kf hope I will have set up my new laptop in time 07:40 kf it's supposed to arrive on thursday now :( 07:40 magnuse :-( 07:40 paul_p you can do it, as you've started GSOD. With something like "this time, and hopefully for next GSODs as well, BibLibre will join us. A lot of work should be done !" 07:40 magnuse yay! ;-) 07:41 magnuse any thoughts on renaming it "global bug squashing day" or something? 07:41 magnuse to encourage other activities than signing off, 07:41 magnuse like e.g. closing bugs 07:43 kf and general testing 07:43 kf writing a testing plan would be cool too 07:48 paul_p magnuse, just one thought = it's a good idea ;-) 07:48 paul_p "bug squashing day" is a good idea probably, although a native english speaker could/should confirm it. 07:57 magnuse yeah - is it "bugsquashing" or "bug squashing"? 07:57 kf hm 07:57 kf I think slef used bug squashing - but not sure 07:58 magnuse google is in favour of "bug squashing" 07:58 magnuse i'll do a wiki page, then an email 07:59 kf magnuse++ 07:59 magnuse email just to the devel list or just to the general list? or both? not a fan of cross posting of course, but one goal might be to encourage people who do not see themselves as developers to take part in stuff like clsoing bugs... 08:00 magnuse debian calls it Bug Squashing Parties - good enough for me... ;-) 08:00 kf hm 08:00 kf I tend to include both 08:00 kf although most devs might also be on koha general 08:44 kkrec we are conducting a workshop on koha i need to knw whether we can go ahead and add 3.4.2 in livecd or continue with 3.2.* 09:00 na tell me how to install koha in ubuntu 11.04 09:01 kf hi na 09:01 kf there are manuals for installation on different os both on the wiki and delivered with koha 09:02 kf na: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Installation 09:04 kf or files named INSTALL. from your koha folder 09:04 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree 09:07 na any prerequisities is there 09:14 magnuse na: yes, if you follow INSTALL.ubuntu it will explain how to install all the prerequisites 09:14 kf it's all in the files 09:15 na how to integrate vufind with koha opac 09:17 kf you have to write a connector 09:18 na bye 09:19 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2011-07-08_Global_bug_squashing_day 09:20 Koha hai 09:20 Koha all 09:20 Koha nice to know about koha 09:21 Koha where all the member 09:22 Koha hummpphhh 09:22 Koha feel sleepy already 09:22 Koha want to sleep 09:22 Koha zzzzZZzzzz 09:22 kf hi Koha 09:23 Koha hi 09:23 Koha where are u from 09:23 Koha i'm just want toasking about joha 09:23 kf I am from Germany 09:24 Koha owh far from my country 09:24 Koha i'm from malaysia 09:24 kf ah, you are at the workshop? 09:26 Koha yes 09:26 Koha you to? 09:26 kf no 09:26 kf I am stil in Germany 09:27 Koha owh i tought u also in this workshop 09:28 kf this is the general #koha chat - here are people from all over the world :) 09:28 Koha ok thanks :) 09:29 Koha i must install irc first? 09:31 eythian Say hi to MOSC people, Koha people! 09:31 kf hi MOSC people :) 09:32 rangi hi MOSC people 09:33 magnuse hi MOSC people! 09:34 chrisdothall MOSC? 09:34 eythian chrisdothall: Malaysian Open Source Conference 09:34 rangi http://www.mosc.my/ 09:34 chrisdothall awesome! hello MOSC people :) 09:34 eythian They all say: Thanks from Malaysia 09:35 eythian apa khabar! 09:35 magnuse yay! 09:35 eythian ? 09:35 kf :) 09:35 eythian (bye from me now :) 09:42 kf magnuse++ 09:42 magnuse thanks 09:54 magnuse o/ 09:54 druthb Hi, Magnus! 09:55 kf hi druthb :) 09:55 magnuse hi druthb 09:55 druthb hi, kf! :D 09:56 kkrec hi can someone guide me for deciding on which version of koha to be used for workshop wether 3.2.10 or 3.4.2 09:57 magnuse i'd say 3.4.2 - it has more goodies, and 3.2.10 will not be maintained any longer 09:57 druthb 3.4.2 would be my recommendation.. (latest_and_greatest++) 10:01 kf i agree 10:06 vfernandes hi Koha community :) 10:06 magnuse hi vfernandes 10:07 hdl hi all 10:07 magnuse kia ora hdl 10:07 vfernandes can somebody help me with two things relative to koha searches? 10:08 vfernandes first: my ordering by callnumber isn't working 10:09 vfernandes what it can be? 10:13 magnuse vfernandes: not sure, what version of koha are you using? is it in the opac or staff client? 11:25 vfernandes i'm having problems with zebra indexation 11:26 vfernandes first the is the problem with order by callnumber second the search by acqdate is seraching in others fields of item (like last seen date) 11:28 vfernandes what could be wrong? i'm using UNIMARC maybe can be some configuration in record.abs 11:29 kf vfernandes: not sure about unimarc :( 11:30 kf call number sorting could be influenced by your chosen filing rules and classification source in items 11:30 vfernandes i don't have filling rules 11:31 vfernandes the search by acqdate is retrieving all record that have acqdate or lastseen equal to the date inserted 11:32 vfernandes but acqdate in the record.abs is mapped to 995^5 11:34 vfernandes something is not right... :/ 11:35 vfernandes it should only search on 995^5 and not in other subfields 11:37 vfernandes i'll ask his on the Koha mailing list... 11:37 vfernandes *this 11:44 magnuse Oak 11:44 Oak magnuse 11:44 * druthb hugs Oak. 11:45 Oak :) heya druthb ... 11:49 kf vfernandes: we are using marc21 - so not sure what the mappings should be 11:49 kf hi Oak 11:49 Oak hi kf 13:37 kf oleonard: around? 14:22 tcohen hi kf 14:23 kf hi tcohen 14:24 * tcohen is setting es.koha-community.org up 14:25 tcohen anyone with spanish sample records is welcome 14:37 kf are you creating a demo installation too? 14:45 tcohen yes 14:52 slef hi 14:52 wahanui salut, slef 14:52 kf tcohen :) 14:52 kf hi slef 15:03 tcohen has anyone set koha to run in a sub-directory in the url path? 15:03 tcohen is it painfull to setup? 15:20 druthb o/ 15:27 slef tcohen: it used to be near-impossible but I can't check/try why now. 15:29 tcohen i'll let you know 15:30 reiveune bye 15:47 * Oak waves 15:47 druthb hi, Oak. :D 15:47 Oak hello druthb :) you look happy 15:47 oakivil hi Oak 15:47 Oak hello second oak 15:47 oakivil damn 15:48 oakivil I just cant figure out how to make a set 15:49 Oak playing magic squares again 15:50 * druthb is pretty happy, yes. 15:54 Oak share with us if it's okay 15:56 kf oakivil: did the example records help that I sent you? 15:56 oakivil just impored them 15:57 kf it's a one letter thing in one of the coded fields 15:57 kf that will make the link and icon appear 15:57 kf if you open one of the sets and look at plugins in cataloging you shoudl see it 15:57 oakivil i already customized a new framework where field 773/w is visible and I imported some biblios from LOC and added reference to master record there 15:58 oakivil but i cant find those biblios via the OPAC 15:58 oakivil after running Zebra indexer is can find those in catalog 15:58 kf yeah 15:58 oakivil but i cant find the items 15:58 kf you need to add zebra indexer as a cronjob with -z 15:58 kf so newly added records get indexe 15:58 kf d 15:58 oakivil i did that 15:58 druthb Oak: it's a holiday here in the US, and I'm managing to get a lot of stuff done this weekend, in preparation for my move. 15:58 kf ok 15:58 oakivil and now i see them in Admin -> Cataloguing 15:58 Oak ah, good druthb :) 15:58 druthb Getting stuff done makes me a happy gal. 15:59 oakivil but not via OPAC even if i have items out of those biblios 15:59 kf hm, even after running it? 15:59 oakivil yes 15:59 kf not finding them clicking on the link or not finding them at all, using keyword search? 15:59 oakivil keyword search ends up as empty 16:00 kf weird 16:00 oakivil "10 more rock super hits" is found via the Home -> Cataloging, but not via the OPAC when i search with keyword 10 16:00 kf hm do you find it in the reservoir in cataloging or in the normal opac part of the result display? 16:00 oakivil in reservoir 16:01 oakivil it says no results found but in reservoir i ind items 16:01 oakivil database has rows for items i added via the aquisitions module 16:06 kf oakivil: ok, reservoir is not in catalog 16:06 kf you can't find them anywhere else 16:06 oakivil figures 16:06 oakivil maybe zebra doesnt work as it should 16:06 kf no 16:06 oakivil it gave no errors 16:06 kf reservoir is only a pool for cataloging 16:07 kf it's not really in your database 16:07 kf and not in the normal tables 16:07 kf if you open one of the records in the reservoir and save it, add an item - it shoudl get indexed correctly 16:08 oakivil I already have here in my biblio table "10 more rock super hits" 16:08 oakivil and in biblioitmes 16:08 oakivil well let me try 16:09 kf gn 16:09 kf hm 16:09 kf ok, that doesn't make much sense, shoudl get indexed 16:09 kf what indexing command do you use in your cronjobs? 16:10 oakivil perl ./rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a 16:10 oakivil gives no feedback 16:10 oakivil it just runs for a while and terminates silently 16:11 kf hm 16:12 kf if you run it on command line - does it work? 16:12 oakivil I just added "10 country greats" from reservoir to catalog, then added two items. Then I manually ran the zebra indexer with that command. Now i cant find that biblio in catalog 16:12 kf and try -v 16:12 kf ok 16:12 kf try -v to see what's going wrong here 16:13 oakivil lots 16:13 ttk i am working on 3.4.2 and realised that child fulnds are not working properly. if some budget is added for books and under books if child budget is added it adds up both child and main budget 16:14 kf are there any fatal rows? 16:14 oakivil http://paste.koha-community.org/86 16:14 oakivil no fatal flaws 16:14 oakivil just no imprtas 16:14 ttk both budgets books and main budgets gets addede up together 16:14 oakivil *imports* 16:14 kf ok 16:14 kf z willt ake only the lines with done 0 from zebraqueue table 16:14 kf do you have a lot of records in there? 16:15 kf I would try a full reindex 16:15 kf -a -b -v 16:15 oakivil ok 16:15 oakivil now its rocking some stuff 16:15 kf good 16:15 kf perhaps something is wrong with the cronjob - hope we can figure it out 16:16 kf for every record you add or edit a line is added to the zebra_queue table - there is 0 for not indexed and 1 for indexed. 16:17 oakivil http://paste.koha-community.org/87 16:17 kf yep, tht looks good 16:18 kf only [log], not [fatal] and Records: 26 i/u/d 0/26/0 16:18 kf says 26 records were updated 16:18 kf you should be abel to search everything now 16:18 oakivil nope 16:18 kf ok 16:18 oakivil No results match your search for “kw,wrdl: 10 †in Catalog. 16:19 kf next zebrasrv running? 16:19 oakivil what was the unix command? 16:19 kf not totally sure 16:19 oakivil ill google 16:20 oakivil ps aux 16:20 kf sorry, I have it documented somewhere 16:21 kf I think you have to make it a deamon or something 16:22 kf is it running? 16:22 oakivil hmm 16:22 kf search faq? 16:22 wahanui i guess search faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 16:23 kf perhaps this helps, more hints about serach 16:23 oakivil yeah 16:24 kf zebra is a bit hard sometims 16:24 kf but once you have figured it out it will be ok 16:24 oakivil zebrasrv is not runniong 16:24 kf ok 16:24 kf so that's the reason 16:24 kf search will not work at all when it's not running 16:25 kf we ran into this a lot in the beginning 16:25 oakivil yeah 16:26 oakivil damn 16:26 oakivil importing all our marc data is so complex beacuse of the component parts 16:26 oakivil but ill daemonize zeba 16:26 kf ok 16:26 oakivil ra 16:26 oakivil im sure it will help 16:26 kf yep it should fix your problem with search 16:26 kf and after that you can take a closer look at the sets 16:27 kf have to leave now - hope it works out 16:27 kf bye #koha 16:37 Brooke kia ora 16:42 Brooke 0/ 16:44 druthb o/ 19:43 rangi morning 19:46 davi night 19:49 rangi bshum: it was neat to catch up with some of your colleagues, maybe next time we can meet up :) 19:49 bshum rangi: Cool, cool. Glad to hear! And definitely. 19:51 rangi the lita OSS IG might be doing a programme and/or a pre conf next ala, that would be sweet 19:51 rangi and happy 4th of july :) 20:07 cait morning rangi 20:07 rangi heya cait :) 20:08 cait and evening #koha 20:08 rangi bbiab 20:21 rangi back 20:24 cait :) 20:25 * cait is evacuating all data from old windows laptop 20:26 rangi :) 20:31 cait :) 20:35 * ibeardslee wonders if he should just glare at rangi 20:35 rangi heh 20:37 cait what has he done? 20:37 rangi http://www.biblibre.com/en/blog/entry/biblibre-is-a-jei-young-innovating-company <-- very cool 20:41 ibeardslee cait: sent a email to all staff in mÄori 20:41 cait sounds like him 20:41 rangi well it is mÄori language week :) 20:42 ibeardslee true .. I do get a little pissed that each time I've tried to learn I've ended up with some asswipe of an activist type 20:52 druthb o/ 20:54 cait hi druthb# 20:56 rangi heya druthb 20:56 druthb hi, cait and rangi. :) 21:00 rangi hi juan_sieira 21:03 Space_Librarian morena #koha 21:05 rangi heya Space_Librarian 21:05 wahanui Space_Librarian is a Koha poet or the sweetest lil lady you'll ever know 21:05 Space_Librarian morning rangi 21:05 ibeardslee awwww 21:05 Space_Librarian ibeardslee: ignore wahanui 21:06 Space_Librarian well, not the Koha poet part, because that happened 21:08 ibeardslee so just lies then? 21:09 Space_Librarian all lies and slander. 21:15 cait getting late - bye #koha 23:12 Judit good morning 23:13 rangi hi Judit 23:13 Judit i love winter in sydney 23:18 jenkins_koha Starting build 313 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6470 - Unable to filter out log entries for kohaadmin (user 0) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e653e8ce0ba74050b6786e62df67cccda6f1c1a4> / Bug 6492 - Deleted biblios cause rebuild_zebra to fail <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=048c0dc04e9daf73a2e425c0e75f4a1384bfc5b7> / Bug 5379 - import_borrowers.pl fails with db insert/update errors <http://git.koha-comm