Time  Nick                  Message
00:39 Judit                 hi
00:40 Judit                 i have something for you guys
00:40 Judit                 http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1989-05-28/
00:40 Judit                 :)
01:05 druthb                o/
02:20 chilts                if anyone wants an invite to Google+, let me know :)
05:01 bg                    evening all
05:13 tanz                  hi im reading the code label-create-pdf.pl to edit code to display more information in the pdf file, what is the meaning of 1.000000 in use C4::Creators 1.000000
06:08 cait                  morning #koha
06:08 Oak                   cait
06:08 francharb             hello cait, #koha
06:08 Judit                 'afternoon:)
06:08 cait                  hi francharb, hi Oak
06:08 cait                  and Judit :)
06:20 alex_a                hello :)
06:20 Oak                   Bonjour Monsieur alex_a
06:20 alex_a                :)
06:21 Oak                   :)
06:42 cait                  morning magnuse and marcelr
06:42 marcelr               morning cait and all
06:42 magnuse               kia ora cait & #koha
06:42 cait                  :)
06:42 cait                  ok, time to go - will be back
07:05 Oak                   kf
07:22 clrh                  hi
07:22 wahanui               hey, clrh
07:24 kf                    good morning #koha
07:29 magnuse               hiya Oak clrh and kf
07:31 kf                    god morgen magnuse
07:32 magnuse               :-)
07:35 Judit                 any experienced cataloger around?
07:35 Judit                 i would like to know if you can change the display order of the subfields
07:36 Judit                 it is and alphabetical order like: a-x-z
07:36 Judit                 but i wnat to display it like: a-z-x
07:36 magnuse               Judit: you want to change the display in the opac?
07:36 Judit                 and admin
07:37 Judit                 when you look at the MARC view of a biblio
07:37 magnuse               are you using xslt for display? then you have to edit the xslt files
07:38 Judit                 is that a syspref?
07:38 magnuse               oh, the marc view? not sure about that, but i don't think there is a way to change that without changing code
07:38 Judit                 hm
07:39 Judit                 butif you download a marc record via z39.50
07:39 Judit                 sometimes they already come in the order like: a-z-y
07:40 Judit                 (Tag 650 i am talking about)
07:40 magnuse               there is a syspref for using xslt for display, but the actual display is governed by xslt files in the code
07:40 kf                    I think you can change the sequence using the arrows
07:40 kf                    but not sure if that is peramanend
07:40 kf                    and I think you can't do that for the frameworks
07:41 kf                    speaking about cataloging
07:41 Judit                 hm let my try the arrow
07:42 Judit                 you are right
07:42 Judit                 the arrow moves them up
07:43 Judit                 but not in hte framework
07:43 kf                    yes, I think you can only do it while cataloging
07:43 kf                    not have them in a different order by default
07:44 Judit                 and they keep the new order even after you saved the new biblio
07:45 Judit                 thank you!
07:45 kf                    :)
07:56 * magnuse             magnus_afk
08:07 jransom               good evening all
08:20 kf                    hi jransom
08:20 kf                    :)
08:22 jransom               hiya katrin
08:23 jransom               sorry - i said hi then wandered off to read my twitter feed
08:24 kf                    ah, I answered late - was testing the new dokuwiki version
08:25 jransom               oh yes
08:25 Oak                   all forgiven then by both parties
08:25 Oak                   :)
08:25 jransom               I'm catching up on a day's communication: emails, twitter and blog posts
08:27 kf                    no problem
08:40 magnus_afk            kia ora jransom
09:11 chrisdothall          eQmZrVMlrCJY56E3
09:11 chrisdothall          very sorry, middle mouse button.
09:44 kf                    hi chrisdothall :)
09:58 druthb                o/
10:02 kf                    hi druthb :)
10:02 kf                    hm too late
10:49 oakivil               'ello! #koha
10:50 kf                    hi oakivil
10:51 oakivil               I was asking yesterday if someone is doing something with the aquisition module?
10:51 oakivil               I would like to know more about integrating the module more deeply with vendor API's
10:52 kf                    we are using it
10:52 oakivil               when you create an order it sends and email to the vendor
10:52 kf                    no, it doesn't
10:52 oakivil               what does it do?
10:52 kf                    there is an enhancement request on the qiki
10:52 kf                    to make it do that
10:52 kf                    I hope to find time to make it work for 3.6
10:52 kf                    someone else programmed it but it needs a little more work
10:52 kf                    you can produce PDF files
10:53 kf                    either of a single order
10:53 kf                    or of a basket of orders
10:53 kf                    for the latter you have a summary page
10:53 oakivil               ok
10:53 oakivil               i dont think it is such a big issue to make
10:54 kf                    no
10:54 oakivil               to make it auto send email
10:54 kf                    the code on the wiki produces an order using the notices module
10:54 oakivil               or have integration with our vendors systems
10:54 kf                    that's a bit more difficult
10:54 kf                    I think sending out the pdf as attachement should be relatively easy
10:54 oakivil               hmm
10:54 oakivil               its ahrder to parse it on the receiving side automatically
10:54 kf                    the pdf? yes
10:55 oakivil               yes
10:55 kf                    there is also some work on EDI I think
10:55 oakivil               here in Finalnd we already have quite automated aquisition integration wth our main vendors
10:55 oakivil               so we would like to have atleast the same with koha
10:55 kf                    there was an announcement from bywater some time ago, let me find it for you
11:47 oakivil               Any news from the "component part" framework?
11:54 kf                    oakivil: still there?
11:54 wahanui               rumour has it there is no spoon
11:54 kf                    sorry, got a phone call
11:54 jcamins_away          Still there?
11:54 wahanui               i guess there is no spoon.
11:54 oakivil               still here
11:54 jcamins_away          Huh?
11:54 kf                    ?
11:54 jcamins_away          wahanui: spoon?
11:54 wahanui               There is no spoon.
11:54 jcamins_away          kf: I'm wondering why "still there?" gets the response "there is no spoon."
11:55 kf                    no idea about that
11:55 oakivil               ?
11:55 kf                    oakivil: about edi and koha: http://www.software.coop/news/koha-edi/
11:55 oakivil               i responded "still here"
11:55 kf                    oakivil: yes, you can do what you wanted to do
11:55 kf                    oakivil: we have that, you can catalog sets
11:55 kf                    it's not only for serials
11:55 oakivil               but they should be music
11:55 kf                    but now I remember I already have told you that?
11:55 kf                    yes, I think you can use set structures for that
11:55 oakivil               that needs to be enabled for cs's as well
11:55 kf                    cs?
11:55 oakivil               *cd's
11:56 kf                    sh
11:56 kf                    ah
11:56 oakivil               if it is a set its not a music thingy? right?
11:56 kf                    our soution works on title level, not on item level
11:56 kf                    a set is a general term I think
11:56 kf                    you can use it for different things
11:56 oakivil               hmm ok
11:56 oakivil               so i can create a set but it is still visible in opac as a cd?
11:56 oakivil               with each individual piece of music as a music item
11:57 oakivil               or cd
11:57 oakivil               because the implementations i have seen are only about sets
11:57 oakivil               and they look like sets in the opac
11:57 oakivil               but clients want to see a cd, which has lots of smaller cd's inside
11:58 oakivil               and i figured that there needs to be changes made to facilitate component parts for other than sets
11:58 oakivil               and i was thinking if anybody is owrking on that
12:02 kf                    hm
12:02 kf                    the records linked to the set will look like css
12:02 kf                    cds
12:02 hdl                   hi
12:02 wahanui               what's up, hdl
12:02 kf                    the set is only the hierarchy level above
12:02 oakivil               hmm
12:02 kf                    ok, so you would need to change the xslt
12:02 hdl                   any person mastering reserves tables around ?
12:02 kf                    not sure how you wold make what you want to do visible in marc standard
12:03 kf                    I have a meeting now :(
12:03 kf                    sorry
12:03 hdl                   I wonder how reservecontraints is used.
12:03 oakivil               in marc standard you define the 773/w field to point to the parents 001 field
12:03 oakivil               and i understand that is how it works in koha's sets
12:04 oakivil               the title just needs to be a cd not set
12:04 oakivil               nothing more :D
12:04 oakivil               or the title might have to be a book
12:04 oakivil               a book can contain a cd
12:04 kf_mtg                hm not sure oakivil
12:04 kf_mtg                have to think about it
12:05 oakivil               sure
12:05 oakivil               but thanks for the link
12:05 oakivil               EDI is something weve been wanting too
12:07 hdl                   jcamins_away: still away ?
12:07 oakivil               who is working on edi?
12:08 oakivil               i would like to know it better. I just had a call with our vendor and would like to find out how easy it is to integrate edi to their api
12:08 jcamins               hdl: no.
12:09 hdl                   hi
12:09 hdl                   oakivil: bywaterssolutions and slef .... /me hides away
12:09 jcamins               Hello.
12:10 hdl                   jcamins: it is about reserves, to know it you use the reserveconstraints table.
12:10 jcamins               oakivil: I believe my coworkers are still working on rebasing the EDI code.
12:10 * oleonard            doesn't recognize jcamins without his _away
12:10 oakivil               well with whom can i chat about it
12:10 jcamins               oakivil: ask sekjal, when he's around.
12:10 hdl                   It seems something not used in the code.
12:10 oakivil               ok
12:10 * jcamins             has never seen reserveconstraints used.
12:10 hdl                   But wanted to check with some us user.
12:10 oakivil               slej and sekjal
12:11 * jcamins             checks.
12:11 hdl                   slef is the one whose company originated the dev.
12:11 jcamins               hdl: apparently Reserves.pm does use the table.
12:11 hdl                   oleonard: any rememberance of reservecontraint ?
12:12 hdl                   jcamins: yes... But it is empty in any of our instances.
12:12 oleonard              hdl: I was under the impression that it doesn't do anything, but that's just a memory
12:13 jcamins               git blame says that atz wrote it.
12:14 hdl                   git blame  sometimes blames ppl for things they only commited and not wrote :D
12:15 jcamins               hdl: ah, true.
12:15 hdl                   or even for things they just updated because of indentation...
12:15 oleonard              Mention of reserveconstraints by gmcharlt in 2008: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/RFC-3-2-general-hold-request-changes-td3067133.html
12:16 jcamins               hdl: here's my revised analysis: it was added by tipaul when all of the reserves code was added.
12:17 hdl                   jcamins: there you see :D I am investigating on crimes I am involved in.
13:12 huginn                New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6536] Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536>
13:18 magnuse               oh wow, i'll try to find the time to look at that one - sounds really cool!
13:18 jcamins               It sure is!
13:19 marcelr               would be nice ;)
13:20 magnuse               i need some food first, though ;-)
13:46 wizzyrea              magnuse: you got your google+ invite! sweet!
13:47 jcamins               Aww. Why did everyone get me get their Google+ invite?
13:48 magnuse               well, it didn't really feel like an invite...
13:48 jcamins               Oh, never mind.
13:48 * jcamins             didn't realize that you had to go to the Google+ website for it to show up.
13:49 wizzyrea              it's kind of weird actually
13:49 wizzyrea              I guess it's more like you add people that are in your google contacts
13:49 wizzyrea              and they get an invite
13:49 wizzyrea              not so much like wave
13:49 magnuse               yeah, something like that
13:49 magnuse               yeah, no limited number of invites
13:50 jcamins               So, uh, what do I do with thi?
13:50 jcamins               *this?
13:50 * jcamins             gets bored and stops.
13:50 magnuse               that was quick ;-)
13:50 oleonard              Still hard to see how it could be a Facebook-killer when SO many people are already on Facebook
13:50 magnuse               it's an uphill battle, to be sure
13:51 magnuse               you can export your stuff, which is cool
13:52 wizzyrea              well lots of folks have google mail accounts
13:52 wizzyrea              and this is (so far) a fairly seamless integration with the rest of your google-life
13:53 magnuse               guess that will be a big point, tying lots of services togehter
13:53 wizzyrea              well yea
13:53 wizzyrea              I put the app on my phone
13:53 wizzyrea              it can do a thing where I take a pic and it will post it immediately
13:53 wizzyrea              which is scary and cool
13:53 jcamins               wizzyrea: I can do that on Facebook, too.
13:53 magnuse               heh
13:54 wizzyrea              right, but not from your camera app
13:54 wizzyrea              >.>
13:54 wizzyrea              in one step
13:54 jcamins               wizzyrea: yes, from my camera app.
13:54 wizzyrea              at least on mine it's 3 steps
13:54 wizzyrea              take pic, share, facebook
13:54 jcamins               I take the photo, I choose share to Facebook, and it's posted.
13:54 wizzyrea              this is take pic -> it goes
13:54 jcamins               Ah. I think I'd want that additional "click share" bit.
13:55 wizzyrea              well
13:55 wizzyrea              they're private to you until you share them to your friends
13:55 wizzyrea              but they're backed up online
13:55 wizzyrea              afaict
13:55 wizzyrea              dk, it's alright
13:56 wizzyrea              we'll see
14:14 wizzyrea              magnuse, wanna hangout with us to check it out?
14:15 magnuse               sure, not sure my cam works, though
14:15 wizzyrea              :) all good
14:19 wizzyrea              boo didn't get to hear magnus :(
14:19 magnuse               hm, i got some message about trouble with my hardware, will investigate
14:19 wizzyrea              oof
14:20 wizzyrea              when you get it figured out ping me ;)
14:20 magnuse               mic works, trying to get the camera going now
14:21 oakivil               ok a stupid question. How do I create a set?
14:22 magnuse               oakivil: what kind of set?
14:22 oakivil               are there many kinds of?
14:22 oakivil               I want to describe a cd and each song in the cd as a separatae marc entry
14:22 magnuse               ah, i was thinking of oai-pmh sets
14:22 oakivil               and koha caters a set?
14:23 magnuse               kf has been working on stuff like that
14:23 oakivil               do you know in what module is the new EDI in?
14:23 magnuse               i think edi is work in progress, not in koha yet
14:23 oakivil               I'd be interested to check the code out to see how to integrate it to our own vendors systems
14:23 oakivil               ok
14:28 magnuse               wizzyrea: i'm hangin' out!
14:31 magnuse               nengard: i think bug 6545 was fixed by some patch that has not been pushed yet?
14:31 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6545 minor, P5, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , search showing up in facets
14:31 magnuse               i think maybe i even signed off on it...
14:37 * gmcharlt            wonders what the hit to the global GDP will be today
14:37 magnuse               hehe
14:40 * oleonard            doesn't see bug 6545 in current master
14:40 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6545 minor, P5, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , search showing up in facets
14:48 oleonard              The batch item mod tool needs a way to accept a biblionumber so that one can modify all items attached to it.
14:49 oleonard              Then you could link the item edit screen directly to the batch mod interface
14:49 * oleonard            gets tired of the catalogers saying that each volume in the encyclopedia set is worth the total cost of the whole set
14:50 jcamins               oleonard: huh? Why would they say that?
14:50 oleonard              Because when they add the items they put the total cost of the set in the replacement price field.
14:50 jcamins               Ah.
14:50 jcamins               I see.
14:51 oleonard              We decide who is going to get an overdue notice partly based on the total cost of the items they have checked out
14:51 oleonard              This little old lady who checked out an encyclopedia volume for her grandchild is always hit with a notice
14:52 oleonard              ...because Koha thinks it cost $839
14:52 jcamins               Yikes!
14:55 oakivil               is there something missing with the administration tool to create a new marc framework?
14:55 oakivil               i cant seem to be able to add the field 773/w to a new framework
14:56 oleonard              MARC Frameworks › Your custom Framework Structure › Tag 773 Subfield Structure › Edit subfields constraints  > New
14:57 oakivil               i already have 773/w visible here in edit mode
14:58 oakivil               but when i try to catalog according to custom framework I dont see the 773/w field
14:58 oleonard              Did you double-check the "hidden" constraint?
14:59 oakivil               oo heres "show more constraints"
14:59 oakivil               hidden is -6?
14:59 oleonard              See the online help to find the right value for that
14:59 oleonard              (click the ? in the upper right corner of the screen)
14:59 oakivil               ok
15:00 oakivil               help window opens but nothing hapens
15:00 oakivil               it is just an empty panel
15:00 jcamins               oakivil: do you have javascript blocked?
15:00 oakivil               nope
15:00 oleonard              Or an out of date installation?
15:01 oleonard              There was a bug which was fixed, not sure when the fix came along
15:01 oakivil               this is the 3.4
15:01 oakivil               i installed it month ago
15:02 oleonard              http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-4-manual-en/?ch=x4912#marcbibframeworks
15:02 oleonard              Scroll down almost halfway to find the list of "hidden" values
15:02 oakivil               got it
15:03 oleonard              http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6342
15:03 huginn                04Bug 6342: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Help link doesn't popup anymore contextual help page
15:05 oakivil               yeah got it
15:23 * jcamins             has three hours before he gives a presentation on Koha, data-interoperability, and teaching cataloging.
15:23 * jcamins             should probably figure out what he's going to say.
15:24 oakivil               you can teach me about cataloguing too
15:24 oakivil               its quite cumbersome
15:25 jcamins               oakivil: it's just MARC.
15:25 * jwagner             thinks there is no such thing as JUST MARC....
15:26 * magnuse             thinks http://marc-must-die.info/
15:26 oakivil               home -> advanced search     returns no hits even if i just added some catalogs and books
15:26 oakivil               do i need to manually do some zebra indexing?
15:27 magnuse               does it work in the opac?
15:27 oakivil               nope
15:28 magnuse               if you have set ut rebuild_zebra.pl -z as a cronjob you must wait until it has run
15:28 magnuse               or run it by hand
15:28 oakivil               what is ut rebuild_zebra.pl -z?
15:28 oakivil               a cron job?
15:29 magnuse               yeah, a script that should be run as a cronjob
15:29 oakivil               hmm
15:30 oakivil               so how do i run it manually?
15:30 oakivil               do i just go the folder where the perl script is and run it?
15:30 magnuse               yup
15:30 jcamins               oakivil: did you follow the set-up instructions assiduously?
15:31 magnuse               run it without arguments to see the options avialable
15:31 oakivil               to the best of my abilities, if you mean the install instructions
15:31 oakivil               but there was nothing about cron jobs
15:31 oakivil               but from the manual i have not
15:31 oakivil               i just actually found out today that there is a migration guide in the manual too
15:31 jcamins               oakivil: yes, the installation instructions talked about setting up Zebra.
15:31 oakivil               yeah i did that
15:31 magnuse               oakivil: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian;h=0df007c78df0c552bb8e005e2aa1c0e3043908fc;hb=HEAD#l268
15:32 magnuse               oakivil: which instructions did you use?
15:33 jcamins               oakivil: if you didn't set up the cronjobs, you must have missed some steps.
15:33 oakivil               hmm i havent set them up
15:33 oakivil               http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze_%28Git_Method%29
15:33 oakivil               i guess this is what i used
15:34 oakivil               but i did install zebra too
15:35 oakivil               damn I have spent too much time trying to get evergreen to work that i have forgot these things
15:35 oakivil               maybe ill stick to koha now, as multitasking is not very productive ;)
15:35 magnuse               oakivil: the official instructions for installing are the INSTALL.* files that come with koha
15:35 oakivil               yeah
15:36 oakivil               i was diggin them up
15:36 magnuse               e.g. http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian;h=0df007c78df0c552bb8e005e2aa1c0e3043908fc;hb=HEAD
15:36 oakivil               yeah this INSTALL.ubuntu is what i used
15:37 oakivil               but i stopped there where it asked for marc21 records
15:37 oakivil               and skipped the cronjob part
15:37 oakivil               ok
15:37 oakivil               thats the problem
15:40 magnuse               if you are only testing you can always run it by hand
15:40 oakivil               ok
15:40 oakivil               ill do that
15:40 oakivil               thanks again
16:22 rhcl                  Oak
16:22 Oak                   rhcl
16:22 Oak                   (:
16:23 rhcl                  ?
16:24 Oak                   never mind
16:26 rhcl                  ping wizzyrea
16:26 wizzyrea              sup
17:15 cait                  hi #koha
17:17 wizzyrea              hi cait :)
17:20 cait                  hi wizzyrea :)
17:25 Agent_Dani            @wunder 27599
17:25 huginn                Agent_Dani: The current temperature in Falls of New Hope, Chapel Hill, North Carolina is 29.9�C (1:24 PM EDT on June 30, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Steady).
17:26 cait                  I see you are hanging out on google+?
17:26 wizzyrea              yea, I actually like it quite a lot
17:26 wizzyrea              better than facebook, can't specifically pin down why
17:27 Agent_Dani            New and shiny? ;)
17:27 wizzyrea              shhh
17:27 Agent_Dani            hehehe
17:28 wizzyrea              no, I don't think it's that specifically... it seems easier, slicker, better?
17:29 cait                  I don't like facebook... so google+ has a fair chance
17:29 cait                  can you invite people?
17:29 Agent_Dani            Just noticed something silly at this brewpub: on the wall behind the mash tun is a sign that reads, "danger men brewing."
17:29 wizzyrea              hm, I haven't been able to yet
17:31 wizzyrea              but I will def shoot you an invite when I see some
17:31 cait                  I think I am getting one now
17:31 wizzyrea              :D nice!
17:31 cait                  but thx :) will let you know if it works
17:32 cait                  ok, I think it worked - but not sure what to do now!
17:36 cait                  hm, perhaps it didn#t work... I am not very familiar with the google pages
17:36 cait                  but I have it telling me now that it has reached capacity?
17:53 cait_away             Already invited? We've temporarily exceeded our capacity.  Please try again soon.
18:16 Oak                   good night
18:43 oleonard-away         Hi Callender
18:44 Callender             Howdy
18:50 gmcharlt              sekjal: is bug 6450 in the right status for you to look at it?
18:50 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6450 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , No check in/check out messages in message_queue
18:51 sekjal                gmcharlt:  yes, will push through QA now
18:52 gmcharlt              sekjal: thanks
18:59 magnus_away           woohoo! ;-)
19:00 * magnus_away         wanders off again...
20:32 library_systems_guy   is anybody around who is an xslt champ?
20:33 * jcamins             isn't necessarily a "champ," but what do you need?
20:41 library_systems_guy   well upon further inspection I actually figured out my question
20:41 library_systems_guy   but thanks jcamins
20:41 jcamins               Hooray!
20:41 jcamins               library_systems_guy++
20:41 library_systems_guy   thanks jcamins :)
20:41 * library_systems_guy will be a programmer yet :p
20:41 wizzyrea              jcamins is as close to an xslt champ as anybody
20:42 jcamins               Aww, shucks.
20:45 library_systems_guy   jcamins: i noticed that in the opac results style sheet there are several status' that would essentially make a book unavailable...is there a way to check for all those at once without a giant or
20:45 jcamins               library_systems_guy: ah, that.
20:45 wahanui               ah, that is probably wise, for deps
20:45 jcamins               No.
20:45 library_systems_guy   poo
20:45 jcamins               wahanui: forget that
20:45 wahanui               jcamins: I forgot that
20:45 wizzyrea              forget ah, that
20:45 wahanui               wizzyrea: I forgot ah, that
20:45 jcamins               ah, that
20:45 library_systems_guy   i was just trying to avoid copy pasta code
20:46 jcamins               library_systems_guy: understandable.
20:46 jcamins               marcelr and I have both done a bit of refactoring, but a lot of the stylesheets are just ugly due to the idiocies of the MARCXML format.
20:47 * library_systems_guy agrees
20:47 library_systems_guy   it took me awhile to figure out where i was even supposed to be in the sheet to change what i needed to...
20:47 library_systems_guy   but i really have no experience with xslt
20:48 jcamins               You'll get used to it.
20:48 jcamins               Just think in functional terms.
20:48 library_systems_guy   it looks like html and lisp had a baby
20:48 library_systems_guy   *ugly baby
20:49 jcamins               Heh.
20:49 jcamins               Pretty much.
20:49 wizzyrea              @quote add library_systems_guy: (xslt) looks like html and lisp had an ugly baby.
20:49 huginn                wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #144 added.
20:49 wizzyrea              awesome.
20:49 library_systems_guy   thanks wizzyrea :p
20:52 rhcl                  thats a good quote!
20:54 wizzyrea              i know! I laughed.
20:54 wizzyrea              therefore, it had to be added
21:24 gmcharlt              if anybody's inclined, please test an upcoming release of MARC::Charset - http://librarypolice.com/tmp/MARC-Charset-1.32.tar.gz
21:25 library_systems_guy   jcamins and sekjal would you mind looking at the changes I made http://129.114.128.216/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&do=Search&limit=mc-itype%2Cphr%3ABOOK&sort_by=relevance
21:25 library_systems_guy   nengard requested them in the ticket
21:25 library_systems_guy   but i wanted to get your thoughts since she's not around
21:26 sekjal                library_systems_guy:  sure
21:26 jcamins               library_systems_guy: maybe make "Copy" lowercase?
21:26 library_systems_guy   i can do that
21:29 library_systems_guy   just made one more minor change...bolded the shelving location
21:29 library_systems_guy   i think it helps but i've been wrong before
21:31 sekjal                library_systems_guy:  I like it
21:31 library_systems_guy   sweet
21:31 library_systems_guy   thanks sekjal
21:32 sekjal                it's hard to see the backend stuff nengard commented about when just viewing the OPAC, but is that stuff in place, as well?
21:32 library_systems_guy   yes it is
21:32 library_systems_guy   you mean the don't show option first
21:33 sekjal                defaulting to "off", and the minor textual changes to the syspref editor
21:33 library_systems_guy   yeah thats done
21:33 library_systems_guy   that was the easy part lol
21:33 sekjal                awesome.  I'll ask nengard to take another look at it, and pull it down for my own testing, as well
21:34 library_systems_guy   ok, ill go ahead and send out the new patch
21:34 library_systems_guy   and update the ticket
21:35 sekjal                cool; you can mark the old one as obsolete in Bugzilla, to make it easier for folks to pull down
21:38 library_systems_guy   cool, so i have a committing question
21:38 library_systems_guy   can i just put the testing procedures in the email and not in the -m for the bug?
21:38 sekjal                if you're sending the patch as an attachment, sure.  if you use git send-email, then it's best in the commit message
21:39 library_systems_guy   im sending as an attachement
21:51 huginn                New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5079] Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5079>
21:58 sekjal                library_systems_guy:  my mistake about the 'obsolete' marking; the since the patch you sent is a followup, not a replacement, both will be necessary for testing.
21:58 sekjal                not to worry
21:58 sekjal                but my apologies for pointing you the wrong way
21:58 sekjal                it's been a long couple weeks
21:58 library_systems_guy   lol i understand
21:59 library_systems_guy   i did go ahead and commit all the files necessary but maybe i did it incorrectly
22:00 sekjal                since you'd already committed the first change, a second commit was added
22:00 library_systems_guy   ahh ok
22:00 sekjal                if you need to go back and change the most recent commit, you can use git commit --amend
22:00 library_systems_guy   gotcha
22:01 library_systems_guy   so do i need to remark the first file
22:01 library_systems_guy   as useful?
22:02 sekjal                looks like you've got it un-obsoleted, which is good
22:02 library_systems_guy   yeah i just did that
22:03 library_systems_guy   guess it is just a pain for the person applying the patch
22:03 library_systems_guy   :-\
22:03 library_systems_guy   gotta run sekjal
22:03 sekjal                it's not too bad... there may be some complexity if one's using git-bz, but I'm not there yet, myself
22:03 sekjal                later, library_systems_guy!
22:03 library_systems_guy   ill catch you tomorrow to see what i need to fix
22:03 library_systems_guy   :)
22:03 library_systems_guy   thanks again sekjal++
22:05 sekjal                I've got to run, my own self... but I'll be back for more adventures in serials and acquisitions data
22:05 sekjal                cheers, all