Time Nick Message 02:17 druthb o/ 02:23 Space_Librarian \o 03:41 Brooke kia ora 03:42 Space_Librarian tena koe 04:08 eythian git.koha-community.org[0: 174.143.233.17]: errno=Connection refused 04:08 eythian :( 04:09 bg eythian: I take a look... 04:09 eythian cheers :) 04:10 bg hmm.. worked for me - what are you trying to do? 04:12 eythian $ git fetch kc 04:12 eythian git.koha-community.org[0: 174.143.233.17]: errno=Connection refused 04:12 eythian fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused) 04:13 eythian also: 04:13 bg ah.. 04:13 eythian $ telnet git.koha-community.org 9418 04:13 eythian Trying 174.143.233.17... 04:13 eythian telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused 04:13 bg gitweb is up 04:13 eythian yeah, but not the git server itself it seems 04:16 cait hi bg, eythian and #koha :) 04:16 Space_Librarian hey cait! 04:16 * Space_Librarian hands cait a big plate of cookies 04:16 cait oh thx Space_Librarian :) 04:16 cait cookies for breakfast ..mmm :) 04:19 Judit cookies? 04:19 Judit where? 04:22 bg heya cait 04:22 eythian git is happy again 04:22 * cait shares her cookies with #koha 04:24 Judit :) thank you cait 04:32 Space_Librarian Hey Judit! 04:32 * Space_Librarian passes over more cookies 04:33 Judit me, me, me :) 04:33 Space_Librarian :D 04:33 Judit chocolate chip? 04:33 Space_Librarian with caramel 04:33 Judit oh 04:33 Judit omg 04:34 Space_Librarian hehe. Good to see you on the channel. 04:35 Judit i have been told told it is a nice place 04:35 Space_Librarian these are good people. :) They will help when you get stuck. 04:35 Judit wih cookies 04:35 Space_Librarian yes. 04:36 Judit hm 04:36 Judit do you know a good how to website on customising the opac? 04:37 eythian Owen's blog often has bits on that 04:38 Judit owens blog? 04:38 eythian http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=owen+koha+blog&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 04:38 eythian err 04:38 eythian http://www.myacpl.org/koha/ 04:39 Judit thanks 05:23 * Oak waves 05:24 cait morning Oak 05:25 Oak heya cait :] not at work yet huh? 05:25 cait no, but soon :) 05:25 Oak cool 06:11 alex_a hello :) 06:11 Oak heya alex_a :) 06:12 alex_a morning Oak 06:12 Oak :) you too alex_a 06:13 Oak you are from France alex_a 06:19 alex_a Oak: yes 06:19 alex_a and you ? 06:19 Oak cool alex_a ... I am listening to a French radio on vlc... www.hitparty.fr 06:20 Oak Pakistan alex_a :) 06:20 Oak i am often tuned to it actually... they play good songs 06:20 alex_a Oak: héhé, French radio but without french music ;) 06:20 Oak yup 06:21 alex_a it's better like that 06:21 Oak but in between songs they say something in French which sounds pretty cool ;) 06:21 alex_a ;) 06:23 Oak like: ifey puzein tun kuh it pakhti 06:24 Oak that's what it sounds like :) 06:24 alex_a it's in french ?? 06:25 Oak well, that's what *i* hear... can't type the pronunciation... never mind :) 06:25 alex_a :D 06:25 Judit :) 06:27 * alex_a try to get a french meaning 06:27 alex_a Oak: which song it come from ? 06:28 Oak nah, after few songs, some guy says this (before next song). some sort of advertisement or slogan I guess 06:28 Oak wait, let me cut that part and upload it somewhere... 06:31 alex_a Oak: okk 06:32 reiveune hello 06:35 Oak let me know alex_a what he says 06:41 alex_a Oak: don't worry if can't understand. most french people spent their childhood to be tortured for learn a so complicated language 06:41 Oak hehe 06:42 alex_a ;) 06:43 Oak but you guys love your language right... that's what we learned in The Last Lesson by Alphonse Daudet in our school... 06:45 Oak err, i don't know why i still remembered the name of that story 06:45 Oak :) 06:46 alex_a shame on me. Never learned that :( 06:47 Oak read it. it was good. 06:47 Oak we read it in English though 06:48 alex_a Oak: thx for the advice. 06:48 Oak well, not 'advice', a mere recommendation... 06:52 kf good morning #koha 06:52 Oak ah, I know you!!! 06:52 Oak :) hello kf 06:55 kf hehe 06:55 kf hi Oak :) 06:59 alex_a hi kf 06:59 kf hi alex_a :) 07:03 clrh hello 07:03 wahanui hi, clrh 07:03 Oak hello clrh :) 07:04 francharb hello all 07:04 sophie_m hello #koha 07:04 Oak hello francharb 07:04 Oak hello sophie_m :) 07:07 kf hi francharb and sophie_m 07:07 francharb hi Oak, kf! 07:08 Oak francharb, i am listening to du hit, qui fait bouger ton corp ! 07:09 francharb Oak: héhé? what's that? 07:09 francharb s/héhé?/héhé! 07:09 francharb ;) 07:09 Oak just something alex_a told me translation of today... 07:09 Oak :) 07:09 alex_a héhé 07:09 francharb lol 07:12 francharb yesterday was the first day of summer and for 10 years maybe, it's a special night where we celebrate 'amateur music' basicaly, if you have a band, you can play on the street! :) so, everyboby listen to " du hit, qui fait bouger ton corp !" ;) 07:12 francharb you know what it means, right? 07:13 francharb listening to the hit that makes my body shaking ;) 07:14 Oak yup, francharb I knew the meaning... :) 07:14 francharb i didn't mention that i live in france but you may know that... ;) 07:14 sophie_m francharb: it was the 30th anniversary ;-) 07:14 francharb really? 07:14 sophie_m yes :-) 07:15 Oak francharb, in xchat, I right clicked your nick and it says Country: France :) 07:15 francharb ;) 07:16 francharb http://www.fetedelamusique.culture.fr/en/International/presentation/ 07:16 francharb Completely different from a music festival, the Fête de la Musique is above all a free popular fête, open to any participant (amateur or professional musicians) who wants to perform in it. This Music day allows the expression of all styles of music in a cheerful atmosphere. 07:28 Oak so francharb , will you singing solo, or do you have a band? 07:29 francharb singing solo? sounds like i was part of my high school glee club! ;) 07:30 Oak :) 07:31 francharb meeting time! 07:31 francharb see you later! 07:31 Oak later 07:31 Oak :) 09:02 Oak @wunder islamabad 09:02 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 39.0�C (2:00 PM PKT on June 22, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Rising). 09:02 magnuse @wunder boo 09:03 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (10:50 AM CEST on June 22, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady). 09:03 Oak only a 30�C difference ... 09:03 Oak no big dea 09:03 Oak deal* 09:04 magnuse nah... ;-) 09:04 Oak :) 09:41 magnuse o/ 09:41 Oak heya druthb :) 09:41 Oak and magnuse 09:41 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. 09:42 magnuse hehe 09:42 Oak funny 09:43 druthb hi. :) 09:51 kf hi druthb and magnuse :) 09:51 magnuse hiya kf et al 09:51 druthb wahanui: kf? 09:51 wahanui i think kf is cait or really, really sweet. 09:52 druthb wahanui: druthb? 09:52 wahanui you are Brooke's sugar mama! 09:52 * druthb rolls her eyes 09:52 Oak wahanui: wahanui? 09:52 wahanui i think i am a bot 09:52 druthb wahanui: Brooke? 09:52 wahanui Brooke tripped on the cord, broke the internet 09:53 kf Oak? 09:53 wahanui well, Oak is Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla. 09:53 Oak uh oh. why can't it tell something short :) 09:54 Oak okay, electricity is about to go 09:54 Oak few minutes 10:27 kf @wunder Konstanz 10:27 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 22.2�C (12:25 PM CEST on June 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising). 10:28 Judit sounds like winter in sydney :) 10:29 kf the humidity is evil 10:29 kf hope it starts to rain soon 10:53 syed Installing of Koha... when i run 'perl Makefile.PL' i got some warnings in the end....... Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 0.04 not found. 10:54 syed Warning: prerequisite HTTP::OAI 3.2 not found. 10:54 syed Warning: prerequisite Memoize::Memcached 0.03 not found. 10:54 syed Warning: prerequisite PDF:: API2::Simple 1 not found. 10:54 syed Warning: prerequisite Template 2.22 not found. We have 2.20. 10:55 syed Warning: prerequisite Text::CSV:: Encoded 0.09 not found. 10:55 magnuse syed: what instructions are you following? 10:55 magnuse and what OS are you installing on? 10:55 magnuse it's time to start proposing, folks! http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Proposals_for_KohaCon12 10:56 syed Installation Guide : Original author: Joshua Ferraro...........Modified for Ubuntu by: Chris Nighswonger (cnighswonger AT foundations DOT edu)....... file name INSTALL.ubuntu 10:57 syed i'm installing on Ubuntu 10.4 10:58 kf magnuse++ 10:58 kf @karma magnuse 10:58 huginn kf: Karma for "magnuse" has been increased 41 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 41. 10:58 magnuse :-) 10:59 magnuse syed: that's a good start ;-) 10:59 syed magnuse: plz guide me what to do next? 11:00 magnuse syed: most of Koha will work with your current setup 11:00 magnuse so if you are just testing, you can proceed 11:01 syed you mean to say.... just ignore the warning.. and proceed for next step..??? 11:01 magnuse yep 11:02 magnuse in general you can try installing the modules as packages - try "lib" + name of module in lowercase with "::" replaced by "-" + "-perl" 11:03 magnuse so to try to install HTTP::OAI this way, try "sudo apt-get install libhttp-oai-perl" 11:03 magnuse if that does not work, try installing from CPAN: "sudo cpan HTTP::OAI" 11:03 magnuse and the same for the other modules mentioned 11:04 magnuse with the version of Template you have you will not get the alternate backgroundcolors on searchresults, they will all be gray 11:04 syed ok... let me try 11:09 druthb magnuse++ #KohaCon12 stub pages 11:09 magnuse @karma magnuse 11:09 huginn magnuse: Karma for "magnuse" has been increased 42 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 42. 11:10 magnuse thanks ;-) 11:10 druthb ! 11:10 druthb magnuse++ #42 is too low for this amount of awesome. 11:12 magnuse nah 11:17 mirbolt hello there, can anyone suggest why my debian box can send emails from the command line, but not form koha? i am getting 'failed' in the status column of the message_queue table 11:18 syed installing: sudo cpan CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 0.04................ Warning: prerequisite String::CRC32 0 not found. '--TESTDB' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. '--TESTPASS' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. '--TESTUSER' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. 11:19 syed Warning: Cannot install 0.04, don't know what it is. 11:23 syed any sugg... 11:26 magnuse syed: did you do "sudo cpan CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 0.04" or "sudo cpan CGI::Session::Driver::memcached"? the last one is the right one 11:28 magnuse sorry, gotta go 11:36 syed magnuse: yes i did last one 11:37 kf syed: do you have valid email addresses for the patrons? 11:37 kf oh 11:37 kf mirbolt, sorry syed 11:37 kf mirbolt: invalid email addresses gave me a failed in the past 11:39 syed magnuse: i installed all modules, all are Done perfectly ... but every module i'm getting the some message... '--TESTDB' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. '--TESTPASS' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. '--TESTUSER' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. 11:41 oleonard Hi #koha 11:41 syed magnuse: can i run again.. perl Makefile.PL 11:42 syed i installed all modules, all are Done perfectly ... but every module i'm getting the some message... '--TESTDB' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. '--TESTPASS' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. '--TESTUSER' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. 11:42 syed can i run again.. perl Makefile.PL 11:48 kf I think you can run it again from the beginning 11:48 kf you will have to answer the questions again 12:07 syed thanks magnus & kf: its PASS 12:11 kf cool :) 12:14 coryj Is it possible to have SIP work with login name and card number (or just login name)? 12:21 mirbolt kf: sorry i didn't see your response - my connection timed out or something. it seems that the to_address was null in the table, i updated the table manually and it sent the mail. i have no idea why that field was null though 12:22 kf it is sometimes null 12:22 kf that's normal for some mails 12:22 kf it gets the mail from the patron record in that case 12:22 kf my suggestion was to check the mail in your patron record 12:22 kf and the settings which mail should be used for the messages 12:23 kf syntax errors in the mail can cause it to be failed 12:23 mirbolt it happened for a few different patrons, but the setting for which address should be used might be the issue 12:24 mirbolt is there a sys pref for that? 12:28 kf yes 12:28 kf I think it's something with auto 12:28 kf let me check 12:28 kf AutoEmailPrimaryAddress 12:29 kf it's used for all or almost all mails, not only for the accoutn mails as the syspref editor might indicate 12:32 mirbolt ah i see, well i do for some reason have that set to alternate email address, so that is probably it. 12:32 mirbolt thanks for your help :) 12:33 syed you should set the following environment variables: "export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" "export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib" ........... plz guide me how to set this variables 12:38 kf just copy those 2 lines to your command line 12:38 kf if you don't do it some scripts will give you error messages when you try to run them 12:40 kmkale Namaskar #koha 12:40 kf hi kmkale 12:40 kmkale Namaste kf :) 12:41 * kmkale waves at Irma 12:42 druthb namaste, kmkale! 12:43 kmkale Namaste druthb :) 12:43 coryj Anyone on who is familiar with the SIP module? 13:17 syed i have installed "sudo apache2ctl restart"........... i got error... apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName 13:17 syed plz guide me 13:18 oleonard syed: Are your Koha sites working anyway? 14:05 syed oleonard: not now i'm still in configuration stage 14:05 oleonard syed: I'm not an expert, but I've often found that my sites work fine even when I get that error 14:06 syed i run this command.... sudo -u ${KOHA_USER} zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml ..... found error: sudo: invalid option -- 'f' 14:07 syed what address u r using for test ur koha-site? 14:10 syed oleonard: what address u r using for test ur koha-site? 14:10 oleonard syed: localhost:80 (opac) and localhost:8080 (staff client). But mine is just a test installation, so I don't have to worry about named virtualhosts 14:11 syed yes rightnow I'm also testing stage 14:12 syed no URL found 14:12 syed :( 14:19 syed when i run "sudo -u ${koha} zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" ... found error... 14:19 syed sudo: invalid option -- 'f' usage: sudo -h | -K | -k | -L | -V usage: sudo -v [-AknS] [-p prompt] usage: sudo -l[l] [-AknS] [-g groupname|#gid] [-p prompt] [-U username] [-u username|#uid] [-g groupname|#gid] [command] usage: sudo [-AbEHknPS] [-C fd] [-g groupname|#gid] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] [-g groupname|#gid] [VAR=value] [-i 14:20 syed sudo -u ${KOHA_USER} zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 14:20 oleonard syed: If "koha" is the user you don't need the curly brackets 14:20 syed any suggestion plz 14:21 syed yes "koha" is the user 14:21 oleonard sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 14:26 syed thanks oleonard: its processing... 14:27 syed oleonard: it's still in processing stage.... 14:28 syed did it takes some time for finish this process? 14:30 syed around 10 min. to go... it's hold on.. 19:21:53-22/06 [server] Starting server zebrasrv pid=10694 14:30 kf alex_a: around? 14:31 alex_a kf: yep 14:31 kf marking your bug a duplicate 14:31 kf I patched that 14:31 alex_a ah ok 14:32 kf it's waiting for qa - bug 6305 :) 14:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6305 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , The serials are not working properly 14:32 wizzyrea syed: that process will run until you stop it 14:32 kf but there is another evil bug... that needs work. you can't create items atm 14:32 alex_a sorry kf, i didn't see a duplicate 14:32 syed how to stop that... Ctrl+C or any other command 14:32 wizzyrea yep 14:33 wizzyrea but searches won't work 14:33 wizzyrea once you stop it 14:33 alex_a kf: atm ? 14:33 kf alex_a: it's not obvious from the bug report, perhaps I shoudl have splitted it into three bugs 14:33 kf at the moment - it's broken 14:34 syed wizzyrea: so how come i resolve the Searches 14:34 wizzyrea keep going in the instructions and daemonize it 14:34 syed so you mean... i can stop this process by myself 14:35 wizzyrea yep, it's the process that performs the searches 14:35 wizzyrea in production, most people daemonize it so it's always running 14:35 syed wizzyrea: thanks 14:35 wizzyrea np :) 14:37 alex_a kf: you mean can't create serial items ? 14:47 coryj How difficult would it be to modify SIP to work with either card number OR user login? 14:49 rhcl_away atz_ knows a lot about SIP 14:49 rhcl what do you mean by "user login"? 14:49 rhcl username? 14:51 rhcl Since you seem to be talking about the client end of a SIP connection, the client can do anything it wants with any field of information that SIP returns. 14:59 kf alex_a: yes, when you decide to create items when receiving -t he item is not created 15:00 alex_a arf 15:00 alex_a kf: the same in 3.4;x ? 15:00 kf I tried on master when I wrote the patches 15:00 kf not sure what the problem is - the other 2 were T:T 15:02 alex_a kf: the problem about editing subscription is on the both 3.4 and master 15:06 reiveune bye 15:19 coryj I guess I'm talking about the opac login user name. Overdrive wants to authenticate users via SIP 15:19 coryj but it is only working for cardnumber at the moment 15:20 coryj but it is only working for cardnumber at the moment 15:24 rhcl OK, I'm not an expert, but that configuration would still have to be done by Overdrive. The SIP interface will return a number of database fields, and Overdrive will have to execute the query, and parse the returns for the information it wants. 15:25 rhcl There's no configuration of SIP at the Koha (server) side. Now, this is all contingent on me knowing what I'm talking about. :) 15:25 wizzyrea i'm not sure that SIP returns the username 15:26 wizzyrea which in fact, koha would need to be programmed to do 15:26 rhcl So where OverDrive looks for the card number (our OD does exactly this now), it would have to look instead for username or whatever. 15:26 wizzyrea right, but koha would have to be sending it 15:27 rhcl well, if Koha simply supports the SIP interface (realizing there are good and bad implementations), I think a SIP query from the client end should be able to get any field that SIP supports. 15:27 wizzyrea so the real question is: does koha's sip support sending the username field. 15:28 rhcl I don't know whether Koha returns all those fields, but it seems to me that theoretically it should just support sip, and not do any custom configs. 15:28 wizzyrea i'm not sure, but I don't think it does 15:29 rhcl Yea, and I can construct a query if I can find my docs. There is a really good, simple Python script out on the net that is clear and easy to use. I may not be able to come up with it right away. 15:29 wizzyrea the original question was: how hard would it be to use usernames as well as cardnumbers 15:30 rhcl Yes, and again, I think it would be up to OD to request the info it wants, and do as it needs with that info. 15:31 rhcl I know my tech has that py script, but he's not in. 15:55 coryj The problem right now is that it searches based on cardnumber. 15:55 coryj I looked at the code and it does the query based on card number only as far as I can tell. 16:07 alex_a kf ? 16:07 wahanui kf is, like, cait or really, really sweet 16:07 * Oak waves 16:07 kf here :) 16:07 * alex_a just understood that kf and cait are the same 16:08 kf alex_a: I think the patch will be applied to 3.4 too - it's a bugfix 16:08 kf not sure this was your question 16:08 kf having a crazy day here 16:09 alex_a kf: no,hdl just said me you are cait \o/ ! but we were talking about this bug 16:13 kf oh 16:13 kf I am sorry... 16:13 * kf knows she confuses people 16:14 oleonard I would compare kf/cait to Superhero/Secret Identity, but both are super. 16:15 alex_a :) 16:16 alex_a kf: no pbm 16:16 * kf blushes 16:16 kf thx oleonard 16:16 alex_a I should have informed earlier 16:17 Oak good song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP9LYPH10S4&feature=related 16:20 alex_a by all 16:20 Oak bye alex_a 16:22 alex_away s/by/bye/ :) 16:22 alex_away ... 16:22 Oak :) 16:38 wizzyrea pianohacker++ 16:40 kf bye all 16:42 oleonard wizzyrea: ? 16:43 wizzyrea he fixed something for me :) (yesterday, I just found out about it) 16:44 wizzyrea i feel like I'm losing my mind, there is no itemsloop defined in addpooks.pl, but it's referenced in the template. Does it come from somewhere else? 16:45 wizzyrea i'm sorry if this is a dumb question 16:50 Oak no dumb questions here 16:50 Oak that's why i like being here 16:53 jwagner wizzyrea, it's from one of the C4 modules, can't remember which offhand but grep for itemsloop & you should find it 16:54 wizzyrea aha! that's useful, thanks. :) 16:58 wizzyrea hm looks like C4::Items. Will investigate that after lunch 16:58 wizzyrea jwagner++ 16:59 jwagner wizzyrea, that's called from a BUNCH of different scripts. I've run into it many times before :-( 18:02 wizzyrea hmm 18:12 cait hi #koha 18:20 jwagner hi cait 18:20 cait hi jwagner 18:24 wizzyrea hi cait :) 18:36 Brooke kia ora 21:37 bg rangi has landed in the US 21:39 Space_Librarian yay! 21:59 talljoy laissez les bons temps rouler 22:02 rhcl ? 22:02 rhcl cause for celebration? 22:03 rhcl ah, rangi perhaps? 22:03 talljoy just saw above....that the ash cloud cleared for rangi to land in US, in time for ALA in New Orleans 22:15 Brooke kia ora 22:15 Space_Librarian tena koe 23:11 pianohacker hola 23:11 wahanui hi, pianohacker 23:14 Space_Librarian hey pianohacker 23:14 pianohacker hi spacelib 23:14 pianohacker how's it going? 23:15 Space_Librarian not too badly, how's your summer hols treating you? 23:20 druthb hi pianohacker and Space_Librarian 23:21 pianohacker Space_Librarian: pretty well, actually. Loving our rock band setup; we now have two guitars, pro drums and pro keys 23:21 pianohacker druthb: hola ruth 23:21 Space_Librarian hey Ruth! 23:21 eythian wahanui: moo is <reply>How appropriate, you fight like a cow. 23:21 wahanui OK, eythian. 23:21 Space_Librarian pianohacker: nice! 23:22 eythian moo? 23:22 wahanui How appropriate, you fight like a cow. 23:22 Space_Librarian I'm not even going to ask. 23:22 eythian that's because you've never played Secret of Monkey Island. 23:22 Space_Librarian vaguely and many, many moons ago. 23:28 eythian wahanui: z39.50 is the ANSI standard of the beast. 23:28 wahanui OK, eythian. 23:31 * druthb grumbles. 23:31 * Space_Librarian hands druthb cookies 23:31 * druthb is editing http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze_via_GIT , but cannot enter categories for it, for some reason. 23:31 eythian wahanui: cookies is <reply>Cookies are delicious delicacies 23:31 wahanui OK, eythian. 23:32 druthb wahanui: eythian? 23:32 wahanui i heard eythian was in NZ. ;) or a good influence 23:32 eythian both are true