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23:51 eythian bye
23:50 magnuse will try...
23:50 rangi sleep well
23:50 magnuse see ya!
23:50 magnuse ok, it's 2am and the sun is shining - time to go to bed!
23:48 magnuse and the whole package malarky will be great once i figure out that little css niggle... you guys (and liw) rock!
23:48 rangi cool thanks magnuse
23:46 magnuse yup
23:46 eythian it's a start, anyway :)
23:46 magnuse thanks for your help rangi & eythian - the upgrade worked, but sadly not my attempt to fix my css problem... better start diggin around again
23:43 magnuse havn't gotten the time for it yet, but will do it tomorrow
23:42 magnuse rangi: i thought i'd do a summary and suggest another day for july 8th, when biblibre are having their first sign off etc half day (unless they want to have the day to themselves, of course)
23:38 rangi yes
23:38 eythian where does one define routing lists? Are they attached to a subscription?
23:38 rangi 33 changed status eh?
23:38 rangi hmm someone gonna do a write up for patch day?
23:34 eythian Patches welcome ;)
23:33 eythian I should make a 'force remove' option that just busts through and does what it can.
23:33 eythian and deluser koha-demo
23:32 eythian and /etc/koha/sites/demo, /etc/apache2/sites-*/demo, /var/lib/koha/demo
23:31 eythian yeah
23:31 magnuse login to mysql as root and remove the user and database?
23:31 eythian Usually when that happens I remove it by hand.
23:30 eythian it's a pain when it fails, because it aborts the whole process. I need to make it more robust.
23:29 magnuse ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_demo'@'%'
23:29 magnuse Removing Koha instance demo
23:29 magnuse sudo koha-remove demo
23:29 magnuse hm, that helped, but i'm running into trouble because i have a half-removed instance left over from my koha-remove trouble. i get:
23:22 rangi ah yeah, ull want that :)
23:21 magnuse hm, it does complain about a missing package called xmlstarlet
23:20 magnuse shouldn't do that, i think
23:20 rangi (unlikely)
23:19 rangi unless it grizzles about unmet dependencies
23:19 magnuse cool, thanks!
23:19 rangi yep
23:19 magnuse but just dpkg -i to upgrade, no apt-get?
23:19 rangi *nod*
23:18 rangi (when you get a few sites running that becomes very very useful)
23:18 magnuse yeah, the thought has passed my mind, but i'll try to get the packages working first...
23:18 rangi then just apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
23:18 rangi and put the package in there
23:18 eythian what rangi said
23:18 rangi next step would be to build your own repo
23:18 * eythian deletes what he typed
23:18 rangi just the dpkg -i
23:18 rangi you shouldnt ned the -f install though
23:17 rangi thats it
23:17 magnuse rangi or eythian: i created my first package with build-git-snapshot and installed with sudo dpkg -i koha-common_3.4-1~git+20110522163502.cdf32da0_all.deb; sudo apt-get -f install. now i created an updated version of the package, do i upgrade with the same commands, or is there some other mojo?
23:13 magnuse hehe, such fun ;-)
23:12 talljoy i've earned it today!!
23:12 talljoy thanks for the help!!! (you too eythian and magnuse)
23:11 rangi enjoy the beer ;)
23:11 talljoy rangi++
23:11 talljoy I've got some work to do tomorrow. For now, I'm going to kick back and have a beer.
23:11 rangi yay
23:11 talljoy the rebuild ran this time
23:09 talljoy time to export
23:09 talljoy LOL....this I've seen before!
23:09 talljoy BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6.
23:09 talljoy Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6.
23:09 rangi just check your rebuild works now :)
23:08 rangi and your koha-conf.xml and koha-zebra-daemon .. those should be it
23:08 eythian talljoy: /root shouldn't be readable by anyone except root, so sudo'ing to koha makes it break.
23:08 talljoy is there now. I can reset up apache
23:08 talljoy koha-3.4.1
23:08 talljoy koha@amigostest2:~$ ls
23:08 rangi but that will break your apache config
23:07 rangi mv koha-3.4.1 /home/koha/
23:07 rangi you could
23:07 rangi hmm
23:07 rangi thats kinda messy
23:06 * talljoy feels she already mentioned she loves root
23:06 rangi hokay
23:06 rangi bingo
23:06 talljoy LOL
23:06 talljoy "/root"
23:06 * rangi fears you are in /root
23:06 rangi can you do a pwd ?
23:05 talljoy However....Can't open perl script "koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl": Permission denied
23:05 talljoy -rwxrwxr-x 1 koha koha 36375 May 23 21:59 koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl
23:04 magnuse chown -R koha:koha koha-3.4.1 ?
23:04 talljoy -rwxrwxr-x 1 koha root 36375 May 23 21:59 koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl
23:03 rangi ls -l koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl
23:03 talljoy stubborn thing
23:03 talljoy Can't open perl script "koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl": Permission denied
23:02 rangi and give that a whirl
23:02 rangi ahh, chown -R koha koha-3.4.1
23:02 talljoy root
23:02 rangi who owns the koha-3.4.1 dir?
23:01 talljoy still denied.
22:58 eythian or chmod
22:58 rangi yeah try chown that :)
22:57 rangi ohhh
22:57 talljoy Can't open perl script "koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl": Permission denied
22:57 rangi its not telling you with the rebuild?
22:57 talljoy :-D
22:57 talljoy other than perhaps "all of the above"
22:56 talljoy perhaps! heh now I don't know what directories to chown to koha
22:56 rangi we should fix that ;)
22:56 talljoy in my defense...the install instructions say run as system user or directly as root. :-)
22:54 talljoy i know the cronjob is running as root
22:54 rangi heh
22:53 * talljoy must need her ego stroked as root.
22:53 talljoy but I feel I've made a hash of this acting as root
22:53 rangi its only one more dir ;)
22:53 talljoy which is not a bad thing
22:53 rangi naw
22:53 talljoy i'm feeling a wipe and reinstall coming on!
22:53 rangi (and make sure your cronjob isnt running as root and clobbering the permissions again ;-))
22:52 rangi ah yeah ull need to find whatever dir it needs changed, and chown that too
22:52 talljoy root@amigostest2:~# sudo -u koha perl koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a -v
22:51 talljoy and now i get permission denied to rebuild_zebra
22:51 talljoy i did the chown
22:48 * rangi crosses his fingers
22:40 rangi cool, chown those and see if that works
22:39 rangi its in the koha-zebra-daemon thing
22:39 talljoy those both show as directories
22:38 rangi or /var/lib ?
22:38 rangi and /var/lock/koha
22:38 rangi try /var/run/koha i think
22:38 talljoy ok. :-)
22:38 rangi hmm not that one :)
22:38 talljoy any others?
22:38 talljoy ok. i have to chown the koha-3.4.1 directory to koha
22:37 rangi and then the init.d script will have permissions to run
22:37 rangi sudo -u koha blah blah
22:37 rangi eg
22:37 rangi then run rebuild_zebra.pl as koha
22:37 rangi you will have to chown the dirs, to koha
22:37 talljoy i know
22:36 rangi yeah ... break that habit ;-)
22:36 rangi koha cant see them
22:36 talljoy but i love being root
22:36 rangi since root built the indexes
22:36 rangi yeah theres the problem
22:36 talljoy root
22:36 rangi so, what user do you run the rebuild_zebra.pl as ?
22:36 talljoy can I change it to root?
22:36 talljoy USER=koha
22:36 talljoy yes
22:36 rangi should be a USER= bit
22:36 rangi you will see its running as not root (probably as koha)
22:36 talljoy yes
22:35 rangi if you look at the /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon script
22:35 talljoy i thought root ruled them all?
22:35 rangi so its a permissions thing
22:35 rangi ah ha!
22:35 talljoy root
22:35 rangi what user do you run that as?
22:34 talljoy yes debian
22:34 talljoy i run zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml to run manually
22:34 rangi on debian?
22:34 rangi ahhh interesting
22:34 talljoy got that as a 'warning'. and i can only start the zebra server manually
22:34 rangi yep, that should be ok
22:33 talljoy insserv: warning: script 'koha-zebra-daemon' missing LSB tags and overrides
22:33 talljoy insserv: warning: script 'K01koha-zebra-daemon' missing LSB tags and overrides
22:33 talljoy update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing
22:33 talljoy In the install I ran the update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults command and
22:33 rangi kinda
22:33 talljoy i've got a zebra question, if anyone is still around.....
22:03 library_systems_guy I know this is off topic from what you guys are discussing but how hard do you thing it would be to integrate shibboleth into Koha...rangi seemed to thing it would be pretty easy
21:54 pianohacker oh well, battle for another day
21:54 pianohacker They also have no links to even a scm repo, so improvement might be somewhat difficult for an outsider
21:53 * magnuse practices being diplomatic...
21:52 magnuse there is room for improvement...
21:47 pianohacker WHEEE
21:47 pianohacker "numeric error codes!"
21:46 pianohacker "incomplete documentation"
21:46 pianohacker "one letter variable names!"
21:46 wizzyrea they aren't?
21:46 pianohacker >_< It's almost like indexdata is intentionally trying to make its source code, documentation, error messages and website confusing
21:44 wizzyrea he does love rugby :P
21:44 wizzyrea hehe!
21:39 magnuse run run run fall down kick in the face
21:39 wizzyrea 15 minutes til I see the kiddo! can't wait.
21:39 magnuse hehe
21:38 * wizzyrea looks frantically around Norway for libraries to suggest koha to, so magnuse can be rich
21:38 magnuse and nengard can follow along on land and meet us in the harbours ;-)
21:38 cait does not help much I guess... :(
21:38 * cait wants magnuse to be rich
21:38 gmcharlt KohaCruise FTW!
21:36 magnuse when i'm rich i will sponsor kohacon so we can have it on that boat (or, one of those boats, to be more precise ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurtigruten
21:32 magnuse it should not get much darker than it is now
21:32 cait :)
21:32 magnuse cool! ;-)
21:32 rangi thats for sure
21:32 rangi but ill show the kids tonight
21:32 rangi im off to be debriefed
21:31 rangi ohhh cool
21:31 magnuse it just started so if you stay watching for the next 5 days you will see it all, including the place i live and the midnight sun and everything ;-)
21:30 magnuse hehe
21:30 * rangi makes it more dramatic
21:30 rangi TURN !!!
21:30 rangi ITS GONNA CRASH
21:29 rangi hehe
21:29 magnuse it's a 5 day boat trip along the coast of northern norway, being broadcast live on norwegian television and the web
21:29 wizzyrea preety
21:29 magnuse sorry for being off topic, but i just gotta share this: http://www.nrk.no/hurtigruten/?lang=en
21:06 library_systems_guy 3.05.00.002 to be exact btw
21:05 library_systems_guy thanks rangi
21:05 rangi hmm ill try to get a chance to test later today (after my meetings)
21:05 library_systems_guy head
21:05 rangi what version library_systems_guy ?
21:05 rangi wasnt last time i used them
21:04 library_systems_guy err...the ability to make lists
21:04 library_systems_guy does anybody know if the lists are broken?
19:47 rhcl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Dust
19:47 rhcl I well remember the yellow sand in Korea. Sky would look hazy yellow and it left a thick film over everything. Probably had lead, plutonium, and melamine contamination. I should sue somebody.
19:37 huginn 04Bug 5094: major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , auth_by_bind authentication can fail even if given a correct password and userid
19:37 atz_ wasted most of a day before finding http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5094
19:34 atz_ been implementing several koha LDAP to ActiveDirectory setups this week
19:32 atz_ greets
19:32 rangi hi atz_
19:32 rangi otoh the sky is a lovely pink
19:28 rangi or I wont be flying to ala next week
19:28 rangi this ash better piss off
19:24 oleonard Hi rangi
19:24 slef odd
19:23 rangi morning
19:20 pianohacker oleonard: Yeah, working and working. Enjoying the break from school, though
19:15 wahanui thanks druthb :)
19:15 druthb wahanui: botsnack cookie
19:15 wahanui gmcharlt: excuse me?
19:15 gmcharlt wahanui will eat anything!
19:13 wahanui :)
19:13 slef wahanui: poisoned botsnack
19:13 huginn slef: *click*
19:13 slef @roulette
19:12 slef roflcopter?
19:12 oleonard It's going pretty well. Are you in summer mode now?
19:12 pianohacker how's it going?
19:12 wahanui rumour has it oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler
19:12 pianohacker hey oleonard
19:05 oleonard Hi pianohacker, didn't see you come in.
18:24 library_systems_guy sekjal++
18:24 library_systems_guy gotcha, thanks sekjal
18:16 * wizzyrea wonders if the nexpress fast add framework is set for suppress
18:15 wizzyrea sekjal++
18:15 wizzyrea sekjal: that's effin brilliant
18:15 sekjal that'll hide the whole title, which sounds like what you're looking for
18:15 sekjal library_systems_guy: for that, I'd recommend creating (or using) a specific framework for such titles, and setting 942$n to default to 1, then turn on OpacSuppress
18:10 library_systems_guy I think what we are trying to accomplish is hiding brief titles such as ILL's etc
18:08 sekjal but ideally, yes, that's how you'd hide individual items, but not the whole title
18:08 sekjal library_systems_guy: I'm not sure that that system preference is working properly...
18:08 library_systems_guy sekjal to hide opac items would it just be easier to use the OpacHiddenItems setting?
17:47 wizzyrea but after lunch
17:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6501 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Missing scroll bar when updating child
17:47 * wizzyrea will try to sign off on bug 6501 today
17:47 wizzyrea oleonard++
17:44 wizzyrea cool beans, thanks
17:44 wizzyrea aha
17:38 sekjal I'm looking at a generic paging solution that could be applied to any query we need
17:36 sekjal limitation of MySQL
17:36 sekjal yeah, the paging of patron search results applies BEFORE the sorting, so each page is alphabetized, but they're not interfiled
17:27 wizzyrea ah thanks
17:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5266 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Patron Search Produces Incorrectly Sorted and Missing Results
17:27 jwagner wizzyrea, that's an old problem -- I remember seeing it a couple of years ago. There's at least one related bug report, Bug 5266
17:18 wizzyrea that's a terrible description, let me get an example
17:18 wizzyrea people that should have been on the 1st page are listed there, newly alphabetized
17:17 wizzyrea it's doing some kind of alphabetical list, but it's not really alphabetizing... as if you click to the 2nd page
17:17 wizzyrea at least in my system
17:17 wizzyrea it looks like when you do a patron search
17:16 wizzyrea hmm that's odd
17:07 sekjal ~syspref
17:07 sekjal library_systems_guy: you have to have at least one biblio with a 942$n field set to "1" before you can enable the OpacSuppression sysperf
16:52 library_systems_guy If i wanted to enable OpacSupression
16:51 library_systems_guy what is meant by having the Supress index set up in Zebra
16:41 cait hdl: about 30 bugs
16:39 Oak night
16:39 hdl how was the signoff day ?
16:27 cait didn't expect that many - good result for afirst sign-off day :)
16:25 cait whoohoo
16:25 wizzyrea cait, so close, we got it down to 46
16:25 Oak :)
16:25 wizzyrea rainy today
16:25 cait hi Oak :)
16:25 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 21.0�C (11:30 AM CDT on June 16, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Rising).
16:25 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks
16:24 Oak Kua kai anÅ koe?
16:24 Oak ooh hello cait, guten abend.
16:14 huginn Agent_Dani: The current temperature in Falls of New Hope, Chapel Hill, North Carolina is 27.3�C (12:19 PM EDT on June 16, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Steady).
16:14 Agent_Dani @wunder 27599
16:06 slef I think DC was the warmest.
16:05 Brooke so at least there's a reason for it
16:05 Brooke and that'd be ocean effect
16:05 Brooke true dat druthb
16:05 druthb This time of year, the DC area being cooler than a steam bath is a blessing. Sha'n't quibble.
16:05 slef Brooke: last year, I visited NY, Washington, Savannah and Miami Beach. Miami Beach was the coolest.
16:04 Brooke you don't find an issue here?
16:04 Brooke Maryland being cooler than Massachusetts?
16:04 Oak something wrong with pizza?
16:04 druthb ?
16:04 Brooke okay, seriously, that ain't right.
16:04 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 23.3�C (12:09 PM EDT on June 16, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling).
16:04 druthb @wunder 20852
16:03 huginn Brooke: The current temperature in Pittsfield, Massachusetts is 25.0�C (11:54 AM EDT on June 16, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
16:03 Brooke @wunder 01235
16:00 Brooke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAReq4WMmqI
15:59 druthb Brooke! your recursive snarking broke my meter.
15:59 Agent_Dani You have a functional one? Mine never even last a day on the job site.
15:59 * druthb shakes the meter.
15:58 druthb lol
15:58 Brooke "Ooooh a sarcasm detector. Real useful."
15:58 * druthb gets out her Snark-o-Meter. It'll find ya.
15:57 * Agent_Dani has bike, will travel. ;)
15:57 Brooke alas, it is not
15:57 rhcl it ain't kansas
15:57 Brooke I suppose, though you don't know precisely where here is :P
15:57 moodaepo mediterranean_pizza++
15:56 druthb Does that apply to me, too?
15:56 * druthb grabs her purse.
15:56 Oak :)
15:56 Brooke heh, if you get here, I shall certainly buy you a pizza.
15:56 Oak why were we not invited?
15:53 druthb mmm
15:53 * Brooke is qa testing a mediterranean pizza.
15:40 Oak good
15:40 Oak oh mr. robin is also here
15:39 francharb :)
15:39 francharb that was fast
15:34 Oak :)
15:34 miguel Oak: good afternoon
15:33 hdl congrats evergreen http://sfconservancy.org/news/2011/jun/16/evergreen-joins/
15:33 Oak good afternoon to you too miguel
15:33 Brooke :)
15:32 * Oak open translate.google.com
15:32 miguel Hello all, buenas tardes a todos
15:32 Oak after two attempts, i thought, oh well, never mind, it's hot, that's enough
15:31 hdl hi Brooke
15:31 Brooke bonjour hdl
15:31 Oak yes! :)
15:30 slef is that what you meant?
15:30 huginn slef: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 36.0�C (8:00 PM PKT on June 16, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: (Steady).
15:30 slef @wunder islamabad
15:30 Oak :)
15:28 library_systems_guy lolz
15:28 * Brooke can now compile a list of gamers...
15:28 Brooke :)
15:28 library_systems_guy for the win
15:28 Oak yup
15:28 wizzyrea ftw is for the win
15:28 wizzyrea ftw?
15:27 Oak what does ftw mean?
15:26 Oak I did SEO work on a website, then finished making a presentation, then went to attend my class, just got back...
15:25 Brooke Te Reo ftw :)
15:24 Oak oh wait, let me open that Maori page
15:24 Brooke He aha Å mahi i tÄ“nei rÄ?
15:24 Oak :)
15:24 Oak awesome
15:24 Oak oh man two hugs
15:24 * druthb hugs Oak.
15:23 druthb hi, Oak. :)
15:23 huginn Oak: Error: No such location could be found.
15:23 Oak @wunder inslamabad
15:23 * Brooke hugs Oak
15:23 huginn Oak: (wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
15:23 Oak @wunder
15:23 Oak oh Hello Brooke and druthb :)
15:22 Brooke neither apply here
15:22 Brooke and more often than not, when I do call it, it's not for malicious intent but for incompetent administration
15:21 Brooke but I don't see it here
15:21 Brooke I'm not afraid to call shite non profit when I see it
15:21 Brooke I wish they were that confined
15:19 slef the scary people at OCLC mostly work in the legal department?
15:19 slef And there's data I can't see, so it forms no part of the judgement.
15:18 Brooke what did I say about OCLC?
15:18 slef And the data I can see on SFC is ambiguous.
15:18 Brooke sorry mate, thought ye were ;)
15:18 slef No.
15:18 Brooke aren't you an atheist?
15:17 slef In god we trust. All others bring data.
15:17 slef Not panic. Just no idea why you thought it worth cheering.
15:15 Brooke I have no idea what benefit sewing panic everywhere you tread reaps.
15:15 Brooke and I can easily look at their mission.
15:15 Brooke Having worked in New York I knew their good reputation.
15:14 slef Brooke: No assumptions. But do you know what SFC's mission is, as stated in its constitution?
15:10 reiveune bye
15:09 Brooke conversely, don't assume that they are all corrupt.
15:09 Brooke that one has a very good reputation
15:09 slef I mean, I've worked for non-profits. Don't assume they're specially godly.
15:08 slef yeah, but is having one non-profit that no community member has a stake in asserting control necessarily any better?
15:04 wizzyrea which, as we've seen, is probably best for the project.
15:03 gmcharlt slef: the other factor is that is moving away from any one vendor (or any one library, for that matter) asserting control over the EG project's assets and trademarks
14:57 rhcl EG + SFC = good
14:56 Brooke I cheered at the premise of more collaboration between OS projects.
14:55 slef Brooke: so why cheer it moving between them?
14:50 gmcharlt NCARMichael: check patron 8436; should now be fixed; issue was a hangover from what I did to get the first run of back overdue notices generated
14:49 wizzyrea yes, that, thanks
14:49 Brooke you're stretching to apply oversight through 501c3s
14:48 slef looking more closely, it may be a move from one state's oversight to another, so actually a no-op. (Georgia's GPLS to New York's SFC)
14:46 slef oleonard: As I understand it, that's a move from a commercially-accountable organisation to a state-government-accountable one, taking it further away from its users and developers.
14:45 NCARMichael i just wonder if i'm missing a < or a > somewhere
14:44 NCARMichael default branch
14:41 oleonard slef: Why?
14:38 sekjal NCARMichael: are your overdues defined per-branch, or set up for the default branch?
14:38 slef mixed feelings about that one
14:36 Brooke Hooray!
14:35 oleonard http://sfconservancy.org/news/2011/jun/16/evergreen-joins/
14:34 Brooke kia ora
14:33 NCARMichael anyone?
14:27 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot suggestions
14:27 wizzyrea forget suggestions
14:26 wahanui suggestions are stored in the .po I think
14:26 NCARMichael suggestions?
14:25 NCARMichael <item>"<<biblio.title>>" by <<biblio.author>>, <<items.itemcallnumber>>, Barcode: <<items.barcode>>, Due: <<items.onloan>></item>
14:25 NCARMichael The following item(s) is/are currently overdue:
14:25 NCARMichael hey peeps. my overdue notice isn't displaying patrons' checkouts. :( Here's what I've got:
14:23 sekjal one development I'm going to be spec'ing out is a "print labels" option for serials
14:04 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
14:04 wizzyrea @quote get 123
14:04 sekjal libraries have adapted to some pretty crazy workarounds when their old system wouldn't do what they needed
14:04 wizzyrea :) I just have a kind of visceral reaction to it, sorry
14:03 sekjal wizzyrea: well, perhaps "replicating workflows" is not the right phrase. The process is variable, so long as the input and output are the same, at a macro level.
14:03 talljoy good morning
13:45 * wizzyrea hears "replicate workflows" and shudders
13:37 sekjal also, their previous ILS had a lot of Acquistions features they've gotten used to, so we have to be able to replicate workflows
13:37 magnuse ah
13:37 sekjal very serials-heavy
13:36 sekjal magnuse: yes, a law school library
13:36 magnuse meeting with a client?
13:36 magnuse woohoo .-)
13:35 * sekjal is back from is NYC meeting... lots of serial and acquisitions issues to tackle!
13:35 slef magnuse: np. I'm sure I've fixed that someone else once upon a time.
13:35 magnuse thanks for the signoff, slef ;-)
13:34 * slef updates wiki
13:34 oleonard Yes
13:34 slef is huginn the bot formerly known as munin?
13:34 magnuse slef: probably
13:33 slef can we make him?
13:33 magnuse didn't see any yesterday
13:32 magnuse don't think so, no
13:32 slef does huginn not report signoffs?
13:09 sekjal jwagner: cool, glad to be of assistance
13:09 jwagner Very misleading error message there....
13:09 jwagner Thanks, sekjal. That did it and cleared the problem with the fines cron.
13:08 sekjal jwagner: delete from <table> where <conditions>
13:07 jwagner Drat. What's the MySQL syntax to delete an entry? I don't work at that level very much
13:04 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6501] Missing scroll bar when updating child <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6501>
13:04 jwagner Found it, I think -- there's a ghost record in the issues table (deleted item)
12:58 jwagner Surely someone must have run into this by now?
12:57 magnuse i don't have any libraries using fines yet, so i'm not familiar with it...
12:57 jwagner I made sure there was at least one calendar entry.
12:56 jwagner It's been doing it since I updated sometime last week. I just did another git pull but that didn't fix it.
12:56 jwagner Yeah, I kind of figured that :-)
12:55 magnuse a bug? ;-)
12:55 jwagner Any ideas?
12:55 jwagner I'm not finding anything in bugzilla for that
12:55 jwagner Current head, when I run the fines cron I get an error: No branchcode argument to new. Should be C4::Calendar->new(branchcode => $branchcode) at fines.pl line 135
12:31 oleonard ?
12:31 * slef offers oleonard a saucer of milk
12:31 slef hehe
12:31 * oleonard notices thd awoke from his long slumber for the meeting
12:29 slef 1. AGREED: next meeting is on 6 july 2011 10:00 UTC+0 (cait, 20:07:53)
12:28 slef click topic and look at end of minutes?
12:28 oleonard Dang, now I have to actually look up when the next meeting is...
12:24 slef have at it
12:11 kmkale Namaskar #koha
12:09 oleonard Our topic needs to be updated with the next meeting info
11:59 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6510] "Sort by" in intranet search alters search and number of hits <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6510>
11:42 magnuse and i think you could have set it to "failed qa"...
11:42 magnuse you are probably right, slef - i'll send a new patch in a moment
11:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6510 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , "Sort by" in intranet search alters search and number of hits
11:37 slef deselected needsignoff on bug 6510, with comment
11:33 slef actually reading the fix, I think there is a difference magnuse
11:29 slef anyone want that needsignoff?
11:28 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
11:28 slef @later tell nengard have you got their email address? I can probably find it if you need it.
10:54 oakivil moi magnuse
10:53 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6510] "Sort by" in intranet search alters search and number of hits <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6510>
10:53 magnuse moi oakivil
09:55 magnuse hi there druthb
09:55 druthb Hi, Magnus! :D
09:55 magnuse \o
09:55 druthb o/
08:53 alex_a slef: ok, i forgot add a quote too ...
08:50 wahanui Windows is, like, a poor fit for free software like Koha. Some of the thing's we use heavily are not easily available at the moment. No-one's funded Koha 3.x for Windows and I'm not sure who'd be willing to work on it. You are probably best off using a liveCD for testing, then commissioning a GNU/Linux server
08:50 slef Windows?
08:50 slef alex_a: that is just so I can do this next time we get this FAQ:
08:50 magnuse slef, ah yes, probably
08:50 slef imageologist: factor in either the cost of learning, or the cost of expert support. It'll probably still come out ahead.
08:49 slef magnuse: pk at a guess.
08:49 slef alex_a: same problem I have with that.
08:49 alex_a :'(
08:49 huginn alex_a: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
08:49 alex_a @quote add wahanui: slef: I forgot windows
08:49 alex_a @quote add wahanui: slef: I forgot windows
08:48 alex_a arf
08:48 huginn alex_a: (quote random [<channel>]) -- Returns a random quote from <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
08:48 alex_a @quote random wahanui: slef: I forgot windows
08:46 magnuse makes me curious as to whereabouts in the world the library is located... ;-)
08:45 imageologist to deploy a completes solution for this library
08:45 magnuse cool
08:45 imageologist so that's why... i'm reviewing on koha
08:45 imageologist i just got a project for a local public library...
08:44 imageologist yeah... i'm not very much cognizant on Linux
08:43 magnuse that is probably the easiest option
08:43 magnuse cool
08:43 imageologist yes
08:43 magnuse imageologist: you have a vm running linux on your windows machine?
08:42 magnuse there are some notes on koha and strawberry here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/StrawberryPerl but that page has not been updated for a year...
08:41 imageologist on Linux
08:41 imageologist yeah currently i'm testing this VM
08:41 slef yeah, server, virtual server, all is good
08:40 magnuse running linux w/koha in a virtual machine is also an option
08:40 slef imageologist: any reason not to use GNU/Linux for it?
08:40 slef damn, ytpo, never mind
08:40 magnuse but i have heard rumors that http://strawberryperl.com/ will fix this, but i'm not sure when and how
08:39 slef Windows is a poor fit for free software like Koha. Some of the thing's we use heavily are not easily available at the moment. No-one's funded Koha 3.x for Windows and I'm not sure who'd be willing to work on it. You are probably best off using a liveCD for testing, then commissioning a GNU/Linux server.
08:39 imageologist but really its too old... and nothing found any good support regarding 2.2.9 release
08:39 magnuse the problem is that some of the perl modules koha needs are not easily available for windows at the moment
08:38 imageologist yeah i found it on http://www.koha.rwjr.com/Koha_on_Windows.html#d0e64
08:38 wahanui slef: I forgot windows
08:38 slef wahanui: forget Windows
08:38 magnuse or are you looking to run it on windows in production?
08:38 wahanui Windows is only version 7
08:38 slef Windows?
08:38 magnuse do you just want to test koha?
08:38 imageologist so its purly based on linux
08:37 magnuse i think maybe you can get 2.2.9 to work, but that is really old now
08:37 magnuse nope
08:37 magnuse ah, that's a tough one
08:37 imageologist is there any release for windows XP?
08:37 imageologist i'm looking for Koha for Windows
08:36 imageologist :)
08:36 magnuse we're all koha people in here (but i'm not sure how many people are actually here at the moment ;-)
08:36 magnuse imageologist: bring 'em on, and we'll see what we can do
08:36 magnuse nice to meet you too, imageologist
08:35 imageologist i have some issues
08:35 imageologist are you using koha?
08:35 imageologist nice to meet u hiya
08:35 slef magnuse: well, I didn't install the server I'm using.
08:34 magnuse hiya imageologist
08:33 imageologist hi,
08:32 magnuse yay! Present?
08:32 slef I'm happy with the present the co-op has given me. I can sign off again :)
08:31 magnuse hehe
08:31 slef about 26 hours
08:30 magnuse how big was the delay? ;-)
08:30 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
08:30 slef @later tell cait summoning does work but not very quickly ;-)
08:03 Oak or, this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PShe80ZD6oA
07:49 Oak this is good song to be listening when fixing bugs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syyWdriHtFE :p funky
07:09 Oak hello francharb :)
07:09 francharb hello all
07:08 Oak hello julian :)
07:03 julian hello!
06:52 christophe_c ;-)
06:52 Oak hello christophe_c :)
06:52 christophe_c hi all
06:30 wahanui privet, reiveune
06:30 reiveune hello
06:17 cait :)
06:17 Oak who would want to miss that :)
06:17 Oak excellent
06:17 cait will drag them to see the elephants bathing
06:17 Oak good
06:17 cait my best friends :)
06:17 cait no, not a cousin
06:14 Oak i think
06:13 Oak ... cait because you said something like that when bug sign off day was being discussed and you said 16 is no good... have to take someone to zoo
06:11 Oak bonjour alex_a :)
06:11 Oak oh good cait :) with your little cousin?
06:11 alex_a thx cait you too
06:07 cait and bye all :) have a nice day!
06:07 cait bonjour alex_a
06:06 alex_a bonjour cait, Oak !
05:56 cait Oak: we are going to the zoo today :)
05:52 Oak ah
05:52 cait Oak: no, but it was very cloudy, so probably difficult to get a good view
05:32 Oak did you see it?
05:31 Oak saw it when it less than half darkened.. then late at night saw when moon was totally dark... very dim... barely visible
05:30 Oak first time I every saw.. normally i don't bother
05:30 Oak very mysterious
05:29 cait how was the lunar eclipse?
05:29 Oak :p
05:29 cait :)
05:29 cait thx
05:29 Oak welcome back oh miss
05:12 Oak :)
05:12 cait guten morgen Oak :)
05:12 cait hi mr robin
05:06 Oak :)
05:06 Oak hello mr. robin
05:05 eythian howdy
05:05 Oak guten morgen cait :)
05:05 cait morning
03:54 Amit_Gupta heya jransom
03:43 jransom heya Amit
03:37 Amit_Gupta good morning koha ;)
03:37 Amit_Gupta heya chris ;)
02:24 Brooke hola amigo, que passsaaaa?
02:24 Brooke :D
02:20 eythian �hola!
02:11 Brooke kia ora
01:35 slef bye
01:35 slef that's it, the last one: "I'm hoping to make packages for the next 3.4 release." ;-)
01:34 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6361 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Packages need support for the 3.4 upgrade
01:34 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5574 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , 3.4 cataloguing improvements
01:34 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5992 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Biblibre various improvements for 3.4
01:34 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements
01:34 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5999 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Biblibre : Performance enhancements for 3.4
01:34 slef @query 3.4
01:34 steven u mean i have to re-install the whole system?
01:34 steven how can i convert to debian platform?
01:33 mtj most Koha dev and prod boxes are debian
01:33 mtj use debian if you are serious about a production Koha install
01:33 steven *knowledge
01:33 steven then can i update to 3.2.9?
01:32 steven and i m new to the platform actually...so i dont have much acknowledge
01:32 eythian there are no packages for 3.4 yet, but they will hopefully be coming with the nest release, there were issues that had to be fixed.
01:32 steven bcoz i m using ubuntu....
01:32 mtj so... i recommend git
01:31 mtj ah, i dont think the deb packages have been built for 3.4
01:30 mtj http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
01:29 steven previously i m using koha live cd to complete the installation....so i am not so familiar with the command in ubuntu platform
01:28 steven i just downloaded the tar.gz version
01:27 mtj but i recommend the deb packages
01:27 mtj ive only used git , so far
01:26 steven so how is the command for upgrading?
01:26 mtj steven: yep
01:25 mtj the 3m was 50 seconds fast, with a busted ntpd
01:24 mtj im hoping my 3m problem turns out to be a hardware clock bug :/
01:24 steven so in term of variable and database structure using between 3.2.0 and 3.4.1....is there any changes?
01:22 slef steven: it's worth taking a backup before you upgrade, to give an easier escape route if things go wrong.
01:21 slef hmm, "BAD SEQUENCE" is not a search-engine friendly term
01:21 steven ya...i do backup for the whole system....
01:21 mtj its a more subtle problem that that
01:20 slef mtj: my brain is asleep :-( I don't remember seeing that error. Seems like the sort of thing that would be on the web.
01:20 mtj steven: you deserve a slap for that :)
01:20 mtj slef: could i pick your brain about my 3m-SC problem?
01:19 slef steven: you should be backing it up regularly anyway IMO.
01:19 slef steven: it would be a good idea to do so.
01:19 steven so i dont need to backup mySQL database during upgrading?
01:18 mtj ah, even better :)
01:18 slef :)
01:18 wahanui 3.4.1 is http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;h=ad72f266b9a9ee9d60062f4d38f326c92acb5674;hb=03e6e5cb033edceaffef0dd693300df8fa9fb0f6 rather
01:18 slef 3.4.1?
01:18 slef 3.4.1 is http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;h=ad72f266b9a9ee9d60062f4d38f326c92acb5674;hb=03e6e5cb033edceaffef0dd693300df8fa9fb0f6 rather
01:18 mtj http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL;h=aadef20eddaacecffe96e2215913eea7e91b6efd;hb=HEAD
01:17 mtj http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=tree
01:17 slef http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;h=ad72f266b9a9ee9d60062f4d38f326c92acb5674;hb=03e6e5cb033edceaffef0dd693300df8fa9fb0f6 is 3.4.1
01:17 mtj http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=summary
01:17 mtj steven: or look in the Koha git repo
01:16 slef steven: when you unpack the koha 3.4.1 download, there will be a choice of INSTALL files in it.
01:16 mtj sorry, got distracted..
01:14 steven slef: how can I access the INSTALL file?
01:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6492 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, pianohacker, ASSIGNED , Deleted biblios cause rebuild_zebra to fail
01:14 slef pianohacker: I tweaked your bug 6492 patch a little during signoff and fluffed the description layout a bit. Hope you don't mind.
01:13 slef steven: have you seen the UPGRADE section of the INSTALL file in the download?
01:11 steven i'm using koha 3.2.0...but i would like to upgrade to the latest 3.4.1, can anyone guide me on how to upgrade it?
01:10 steven hi anyone there?
00:46 mtj has anyone experienced 'BAD SEQUENCE' SIP message errors on the 3m before?
00:45 mtj ive got another 3m self-check question. for slef or bywater peeps
00:44 druthb hi, Dani. :)
00:44 mtj hi folks
00:43 eythian http://bash.org/?4281 <-- see also
00:43 Agent_Dani Evening, druthb
00:43 druthb lol
00:43 Agent_Dani >.<
00:43 druthb \o/
00:43 eythian get up, get up and DANCE
00:43 druthb /o/
00:43 druthb \o\
00:43 druthb \o
00:42 druthb o/
00:12 pianohacker k
00:11 slef resubmit 9/10?
00:09 eythian whichever suits the situation I expect.
00:08 pianohacker In that case, does anyone know what the procedure is for a patch that fails signoff or qa? Resubmit, or an additional patch?
00:07 pianohacker eythian: ok, thanks
00:07 eythian pianohacker: rangi won't be around much today, I expect. He's up north telling people they want Koha.
00:05 pianohacker thanks
00:05 pianohacker oh, right
00:05 huginn slef: sekjal was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 49 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <sekjal> hey, all, I can't stay long (meetings), but I wanted to thank everyone working on the signoffs today. I'll try to make sure those are pushed through QA as quickly as I can
00:05 slef @seen sekjal
00:05 huginn pianohacker: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
00:05 pianohacker @last sekjal
00:05 huginn pianohacker: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
00:05 pianohacker @last seen sekjal
00:00 slef On the plus side, I've discovered my backup connection is down too, before it really matters ;-)
00:00 slef and I've internet again... wonder what that was about