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23:33 pianohacker rangi: around?
23:31 eythian Brooke: are you playing with the packages?
23:31 Brooke eythian++
23:31 Brooke ease of installation ++
23:31 Brooke oh eythian, you're looking good mate, and I've not even had a beer.
23:25 eythian I think that perhaps it should put them on stdout and stderr, that way the build will break if you don't notice the stderr message, which is what you want
23:25 slef eythian: no, I can't remember the next codename either :)
23:24 slef eythian: yeah, debian/list-deps should put missing errors on stderr not stdout
23:24 eythian I've put those in the koha repos though, and pushed them into debian squeeze+1
23:23 eythian that won't work because there are a couple that aren't in debian
23:23 slef but you get the idea
23:23 slef dang, that won't work quite like that
23:22 slef sudo aptitude install $(perl debian/list-deps)
23:21 slef I think I've just seen another hack which will simplify it further.
23:20 pianohacker preemptive karma :)
23:20 pianohacker slef++
23:17 slef INSTALL.debian is probably going to get patched to within an inch of its life when I get a mo
23:17 pianohacker slef: install.debian is wrong on that point, afaik
23:17 slef eythian: thanks
23:17 eythian slef: our stuff runs libyaz4
23:17 slef pianohacker: yeah, that was what's in my local notes, disagrees with INSTALL.debian
23:17 pianohacker hi brooke, ransom, eythian
23:17 pianohacker slef: dpkg --set-selections < whatever_file_it_is_these_days; sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade ?
23:16 eythian jransom: g'day
23:16 jransom tena koe
23:16 Brooke kia ora
23:16 * eythian changes person in the middle of my comment
23:16 jransom heya
23:16 slef hrm, there's a install_misc/apt-get-debian-lenny.sh but no install_misc/apt-get-debian-squeeze.sh... not that running random sh as root is a good thing anyway
23:16 * eythian checks to see what I run
23:16 eythian slef: I think yaz4 is fine, so far as I remember
23:15 slef hi jransom
23:15 jransom Morena all
23:14 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5468 minor, P5, ---, robin, NEW , libyaz3 debian dependency
23:14 slef @query libyaz3
23:14 slef anyone know if we actually need yaz3 rather than yaz4?
23:14 pianohacker Research machine?
23:13 slef pianohacker: not too bad. Finally have our new research machine up.
23:13 huginn slef: No results for "yaz4."
23:13 slef @query yaz4
23:09 pianohacker how's it going?
23:09 pianohacker hey slef
23:09 slef hi pianohacker !
23:02 pianohacker Hi
22:40 cait magnuse++ :
22:40 cait wizzyrea++
22:40 cait good night #koha
22:38 eythian hi cait
22:33 Space_Librarian You're up late
22:33 Space_Librarian hey cait
22:31 cait hi #koha :)
22:26 * slef starts installing a development koha for signing off... better late than never
22:22 slef yeehah
20:54 wizzyrea hi nate :)
20:01 talljoy on to cron jobs. (no errors to report yet ;-) )
19:57 talljoy yes, i wasn't sure a warning was enough to stop me. :-)
19:57 wizzyrea that last command tells it to start at boot time
19:57 wizzyrea (me, not you)
19:57 wizzyrea der
19:57 wizzyrea oh have you actually started the daemon?
19:56 talljoy 24703 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep zebra
19:56 wizzyrea does that give you any results?
19:56 wizzyrea ps ax | grep zebra
19:56 wizzyrea y
19:56 wizzyrea well a warning anywa
19:55 talljoy the last two are the error messages.
19:55 talljoy the first is the command i ran
19:55 talljoy insserv: warning: script 'koha-zebra-daemon' missing LSB tags and overrides
19:55 talljoy update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing
19:55 talljoy update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults
19:55 wizzyrea ah, ok go
19:54 talljoy i've got another error that I think is related to debian 6
19:54 talljoy all in the attitude.
19:54 talljoy LOL
19:54 wizzyrea so that's a win
19:54 wizzyrea you can index it once you do have bibs!
19:54 wizzyrea there you have it, it appears you have no bibs. BUT
19:53 talljoy sigh
19:53 talljoy count of 0
19:51 wizzyrea :)
19:51 talljoy i'll try to remember the ';'
19:50 wizzyrea select count(*) from biblio would tell you how many biblios it thinks you should have
19:50 wizzyrea well you can do a query in mysql to see
19:50 talljoy hmmmm
19:50 talljoy thought i had installed test data in install.
19:49 wizzyrea maybe
19:49 wizzyrea :)
19:49 wizzyrea ooo
19:49 talljoy might have something to do with it. lol
19:49 talljoy oh hmm.. 0 records exported.
19:48 wizzyrea and it'll tell you more
19:48 wizzyrea add a -v to that index job
19:48 talljoy still not data in koha though...
19:46 * wizzyrea cheers
19:46 talljoy i ran it and got no error. just went to the next comman line. let me see inside catalog if data exists now..
19:44 talljoy let me try. (I always forget those ; in SQL statements too)
19:44 wizzyrea so export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib
19:44 wizzyrea I think you need a / on the front of that usr
19:44 wizzyrea (@INC contains: usr/share/koha/lib
19:43 wizzyrea it says
19:43 wizzyrea in your error
19:43 wizzyrea oh
19:43 * wizzyrea is thinking about this problem
19:38 * talljoy scratches head...
19:37 wizzyrea yep
19:33 library_systems_guy isn't that where C4 is supposed to be on a prod install?
19:32 talljoy exactly.
19:31 wizzyrea hmm
19:31 talljoy C4
19:31 wizzyrea um, no question mark at the end heh
19:30 wizzyrea do you get anything there?
19:30 wizzyrea can you ls /usr/share/koha/lib?
19:29 wizzyrea 1mo
19:29 talljoy do tell...what did i do?
19:29 wizzyrea so instead of the regular paths
19:29 wizzyrea AHA
19:29 wizzyrea AH
19:29 talljoy ls
19:29 wizzyrea or is it at the root of the drive
19:29 talljoy nothing
19:29 wizzyrea what's above koha-3.4.1
19:29 talljoy yup
19:29 wizzyrea and you say your path is in a koha-3.4.1
19:29 wizzyrea ah
19:29 talljoy oh, you mean the export of path. yes i did those as root
19:28 wizzyrea run the two exports as root and try again
19:28 talljoy hmmm....don't think i did an export...
19:27 wizzyrea ah, did you run the export as your root user too?
19:27 talljoy as root user.... koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a
19:26 wizzyrea hm, what are you typing to try and reindex?
19:26 talljoy that's what I had done. and I got the error
19:25 wizzyrea 173
19:25 wizzyrea 172 $ export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib
19:25 wizzyrea 171 $ export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
19:25 wizzyrea 170 Example (for standard install):
19:24 wizzyrea then probably...
19:24 wizzyrea ah ok
19:24 talljoy not a dev install. just the standard install
19:24 wizzyrea and whether you are using a dev install or not
19:23 wizzyrea uh, your path may vary depending on which user you installed koha in
19:23 * library_systems_guy agrees with wizzyrea
19:23 wizzyrea then try again?
19:23 wizzyrea export KOHA_CONF=/home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml
19:22 wizzyrea export PERL5LIB = /home/koha/kohaclone and
19:22 talljoy BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6.
19:22 talljoy Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: usr/share/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6.
19:22 talljoy I'm working on zebra for my new install (Koha 3.4.1) on Debian 6. I am getting this error when trying to reindex:
18:43 cait yeah, paul_p will tell us :)
18:42 wizzyrea maybe I'm missing something.
18:42 wizzyrea all good :)
18:41 wizzyrea as you did - I tried to use it but the db table it's asking for apparently doesn't exist?
18:41 cait should have done that
18:41 cait ok
18:41 wizzyrea because i've just marked it failed on the same grounds
18:41 cait it seems not
18:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5877 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once
18:41 wizzyrea cait: bug 5877 -- does that db table referenced come from some other patch?
18:39 cait hi slef
18:36 slef moo
18:27 wizzyrea (cuz it doesn't, until the dependency does)
18:27 wizzyrea does not apply might be better
18:27 wizzyrea or... mark as failed with a note that it's waiting on it's dependency?
18:26 oleonard Maybe for the wiki listing at least
18:26 wizzyrea do we need a new status "waiting on dependency"
18:26 wizzyrea should they change status to something else?
18:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5871 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CSS changes for OPAC
18:25 wizzyrea such as bug 5871
18:25 wizzyrea soo what do we do with the ones that are "needs sign off" but are dependent on other bugs that have failed qa?
18:23 ricmarques Gotta go... Take care, ppl! :)
18:10 magnuse keep those sign offs coming, folks! still 16 hours left of the day (in hawaii)!
17:54 magnuse woohoo
17:54 ricmarques "Welcome to the Koha Web Installer".... Now, that's more like it! :)
17:50 ricmarques magnuse: :)
17:49 magnuse yay!
17:49 ricmarques "# a2enmod rewrite" solved it (Oh... the joys of Apache Configuration in Debian!)
17:47 ricmarques "Invalid command 'RewriteEngine'" .... here we go again :(
17:45 magnuse back, but not for long...
17:43 Oak will try agin in half hour
17:43 Oak uh oh, i don't see any change in the moon's shape
17:32 Oak thanks! now really really leaving
17:30 cait hope you have a good view
17:30 cait :)
17:30 Oak yup :) going now... after that smiley
17:30 cait :)
17:29 * Oak goes to see the lunar eclipse
17:25 ricmarques Quips added :)
17:23 Oak :D
17:22 ricmarques I believe we have 2 new quips for Koha's Bugzilla: "<Oak> save some bugs for next sign-off day okay" and "<cait> we will hve new bugs until then - no worry" ;-)
17:18 wizzyrea afk lunch
17:18 wizzyrea bugs happen, fixing them is the challenge ;)
17:18 Oak or not good? maybe
17:18 Oak oh good
17:18 cait we will hve new bugs until then - no worry
17:17 Oak save some bugs for next sign-off day okay
17:16 cait ;)
17:14 cait Claim a bug for global sign off day! http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Global_sign_off_day,_2011-06-15#What
17:08 ricmarques Never mind, I got it... I was doing " git log blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/SIP/ILS.pm" (doesn't work) instead of "git log C4/SIP/ILS.pm" (works!)
16:58 cait I think sekjal has something?
16:57 cait yeah, I have no idea how to do that
16:57 ricmarques Hi all... I'm going a bit nuts here with "git". Does anyone know why "git log existing_file" is returning no output, instead of the log of that file? "git log" works. Running Debian 6.0.1 ("Squeeze")
16:54 wizzyrea cait, that SIP stuff... I don't have a non-production sip machine to test it with :(
16:53 cait yay :)
16:53 wizzyrea right that should be down to 49
16:52 wizzyrea thx cait :)
16:52 wahanui thanks cait :)
16:52 cait wahanui botsnack schokokeks
16:51 wizzyrea my bot whispering skills don't extend to cookies, apparently
16:51 wizzyrea meh
16:51 wizzyrea botsnack cookie
16:51 huginn wizzyrea: I suck
16:51 wizzyrea @botsnack cookie
16:51 wizzyrea silly
16:51 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot dinner
16:51 wizzyrea forget dinner
16:51 wizzyrea lol
16:50 cait pho?
16:46 wahanui dinner is probably a good keyword
16:46 cait oh dinner..
16:45 Oak dinner is on the table... be back in 15
16:45 Oak ah
16:45 cait but we didn't manageto embed it into the wiki yet
16:45 Oak using some font from http://www.google.com/webfonts
16:45 cait I think the idea was to embed it somewhere
16:45 cait :)
16:45 Oak i can style that... if you need
16:44 oleonard That page needs some style. The number should be giant.
16:44 Oak good good
16:43 cait we were down to 49
16:43 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/bug_status.pl
16:43 wizzyrea 50
16:42 Oak what's the counter
16:42 Oak hello my dear ones
16:20 cait cool!
16:20 * wizzyrea grabs the test csv
16:20 wizzyrea yup it works, still applies --- or at least the rebase came back no errors
16:19 cait I think just git rebase master/origin
16:17 wizzyrea git rebase, of course :P
16:16 wizzyrea ?
16:16 wizzyrea something like rebase -i -s3 origin
16:16 wizzyrea aha
16:16 cait I think you might need to rebase
16:16 cait oh
16:16 wizzyrea i suspect I'm going to learn a lot about git today
16:15 wizzyrea how do you check that if you're pulling from a remote branch?
16:15 wizzyrea well hm
16:12 wizzyrea k i'll check to see if it applies
16:10 cait and now it might not apply any longer :(
16:09 cait it worked nicely but I thought the docs needed to be changed
16:09 cait I suggested a follow up
16:09 cait yeah
16:08 wizzyrea or are you suggesting further patches to the help file?
16:08 wizzyrea it looks like, according to your comment, you maybe meant to?
16:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5379 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED , import_borrowers.pl fails with db insert/update errors
16:08 wizzyrea cait: on bug 5379 did you mean to sign off on that
16:07 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6150] UNIMARC field 225 plugin: allow $a value data entry <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6150>
16:00 cait :)
15:59 wizzyrea great, small db all set :)
15:40 cait wizzyrea++ :)
15:39 wizzyrea then i will get on it. :)
15:39 wizzyrea i just discovered that my dev install hasn't indexed. switching to my small dev install db and reindexing that
15:38 wizzyrea nah
15:38 cait big silence? :)
15:32 cait europe is tired, next shift should take over
15:32 cait yep
15:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0�C (5:20 PM CEST on June 15, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
15:32 magnuse @wunder boo
15:32 magnuse it's dinnertime, but i may be back later - and hope to see an even lower number then ;-)
15:32 cait and 49 :)
15:31 magnuse thanks for weighing in on this folks, and sorry for my nagging - you are the bestest!
15:30 oleonard cait: Good point, that could be improved too
15:29 magnuse way cool!
15:29 oleonard Sure
15:29 cait but it's only ...?
15:29 magnuse care to add that to the bug, and upload the screenshot?
15:29 magnuse ok, cool
15:29 oleonard I say leave it below the items for now
15:28 magnuse or below the items, as is?
15:28 wizzyrea leave it as is, fix it later
15:28 magnuse what about the list thing? have that in the sidebar?
15:28 wizzyrea +1 to that
15:28 wizzyrea ^^
15:27 oleonard My vote: move the links as I suggested in my screenshot, leave the rest as is. Iterate later.
15:25 oleonard http://jqueryui.com/demos/dialog/#modal-message
15:25 oleonard I guess jQueryUI has a version of this too
15:24 magnuse cool
15:23 oleonard jqModal is a plugin I've used before for this kind of thing. I'd like to have a standard way in Koha to handle that kind of interaction, so I wouldn't mind introducing it as a new dependency
15:22 oleonard That's a little more than I can do editing the source in Firebug ;)
15:22 oleonard http://dev.iceburg.net/jquery/jqModal/#examples
15:22 magnuse hehe
15:22 * wizzyrea imagines owen furiously coding
15:21 wizzyrea like a drop down overlay type thing?
15:21 wizzyrea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_window
15:20 cait modal?
15:20 cait model window?
15:20 wizzyrea I like much
15:20 oleonard I wonder if a centered modal window isn't appropriate for that?
15:20 wizzyrea but that, there
15:20 oleonard Yeah, my screenshot doesn't address that feature
15:20 magnuse good point, cait
15:19 magnuse yeah, that looks good to me
15:19 cait or is that something different?
15:19 nengard what would it look like if it's expanded like that second picture on the bug
15:19 cait I think there is something missing, this feature to show all on the same page?
15:19 cait ah
15:19 wizzyrea I like that very much
15:19 nengard my connection is WAY slow and I can't get it up to speed .... bleh
15:19 nengard nice
15:19 wizzyrea ha!
15:19 oleonard nengard: http://www.screencast.com/t/JncBwP3M9
15:19 wizzyrea nengard: http://www.screencast.com/t/JncBwP3M9
15:18 cait wanted to say I love it
15:18 wizzyrea love it
15:18 cait sorry
15:18 cait <3
15:18 cait <§
15:18 oleonard http://www.screencast.com/t/JncBwP3M9
15:16 wizzyrea or he could submit a new patch with his suggested changes ^.^
15:15 wizzyrea <3
15:15 wizzyrea ha
15:15 * oleonard is preparing a screenshot
15:15 nengard keep loosing my connection - need to fix the router - will probably disconnect me - be back soon
15:15 * wizzyrea considers that maybe owen doesn't want to do that
15:15 wizzyrea a la revision?
15:14 wizzyrea this might be an outrage: go ahead and get it in, and let owen take a crack at it after that?
15:12 nengard it's a good feature, we should get it in
15:12 nengard like i said if i'm in the minority i understand
15:12 nengard k
15:11 oleonard I think they'll get lost that way
15:11 nengard and the back on the top left
15:11 nengard put the next/prev in the column on the right
15:11 nengard why do the two have to be together?
15:11 cait I am not sure another menu bar / links doing someting is good - would prefersticking to things and places we have already established
15:11 wizzyrea so just stick it and leave it?
15:11 wizzyrea ie people will get used to it wherever it is
15:10 wizzyrea hmm you could be right
15:10 oleonard I think we're in a situation where we'll depend on habituation rather than expectation
15:10 wizzyrea back at top left, next at top right?
15:10 oleonard The trouble with using the "back" convention is that we're talking about back /and/ next
15:09 reiveune bye
15:09 magnuse actually there is a separate bug that introduces just a "back to search" button
15:09 wizzyrea android gives a handy button that is always there to go back
15:08 wizzyrea it's the same on the iPhone interface (but not on android): back is always at top left
15:08 nengard that's my logic
15:08 nengard then it's on the right, not the left of the screen - and if you look at all browsers the back button in the browser is in the top left and so that's where most people look for a way to go 'back' to something
15:07 oleonard nengard: What about having it at the top of the sidebar rather than in the middle?
15:06 magnuse if y'all do that i'll refrain, i just want to move this along...
15:05 magnuse cool
15:05 nengard yeah i will
15:05 magnuse nengard: yeah, noted. wanna comment on the bug?
15:04 magnuse so i thought i'd say "we talked about it on irc and concluded that..."
15:04 magnuse and i don't want him to have to wait indefinetly for opinions
15:03 magnuse oleonard, well i sort of said "let's have more people telling what they want/like"
15:03 nengard but if i'm in the minority then that's fine
15:03 nengard [11:06] <nengard> it's where i always look for something going 'back'
15:03 nengard [11:06] <nengard> I actually like the top left as a place for the back to results link
15:03 nengard magnuse i did disagree ....
15:02 nengard it's where i always look for something going 'back'
15:02 nengard I actually like the top left as a place for the back to results link
15:02 oleonard magnuse: How will your recommendation differ from the current state of it?
15:01 cait because we hide that sometimes
15:01 cait hm the plac ehold links might move things around a little
15:01 rhcl_away the relationships graph
15:01 magnuse yeah, the "not move" point is an important one
15:01 magnuse ok, unless i hear objections within 20 seconds i will recommend the sidebar in a comment on the bug ;-)
15:00 wizzyrea afk
15:00 wizzyrea page to page
15:00 wizzyrea as long as they don't move
15:00 wizzyrea that's fine by me
15:00 wizzyrea sidebar++
15:00 magnuse yay!
15:00 cait becaues for one more time I see how nice looking koha's opac is
14:59 cait oleonard++
14:59 magnuse rhcl_away: aqua browser thingy, i think?
14:58 magnuse which leaves the sidebar, in my opinion
14:58 magnuse and the list of "neighbours" pops up when you click on "..." so having that above the items/record would be weird
14:57 rhcl_away http://catalog.columbuslibrary.org/?q=blue <-- interesting thingie on the left side
14:57 magnuse that seemed to be the consensus, rather than having it below the items
14:57 cait s
14:57 cait like arrow
14:57 cait and perhaps we can use symbols?
14:57 magnuse +1
14:57 cait I like a static position always visible - to above or beside the record
14:56 magnuse put everything in a box in the sidebar?
14:56 magnuse can we agree on something?
14:56 magnuse it seems a shame to leave him hanging...
14:56 magnuse the developer for the paging is really responsive to wishes, so it would be really good if "we, the community" could give him some clear wishes for where we want things placed
14:53 magnuse where � and � are back and forward, respectively
14:50 magnuse evergreen: http://75.101.133.94/opac/en-US/skin/default/xml/rresult.xml?rt=keyword&tp=keyword&t=blue&ft=&l=1&d=0&f= has "Start � � End" (at least sometimes...)
14:50 cait and yes, it's using frames
14:50 cait https://webpac4.bsz-bw.de/WP.fw.html
14:50 cait oleonard: depends on the horizon you look at
14:50 nengard i like
14:50 nengard easy to find and not in your face
14:49 nengard and their back to results link is clean as well
14:49 nengard it's clean
14:49 nengard but i do like the way worldcat does next and previous on the search results
14:49 nengard I don't know of any others with the next and previous on the detailed display
14:49 oleonard Not that big of a win to find that Horizon doesn't do it.
14:49 cait I really like the idea - I was asked about those buttons
14:47 oleonard Worldcat has a "return to search" link but not back and next links
14:47 magnuse need a break soon, i think ;-)
14:47 oleonard Anyone know any other systems that have this feature to see how they do it?
14:47 cait are you ok?
14:47 * magnuse hides
14:46 * cait looks at magnuse
14:46 magnuse hehe
14:45 nengard oh dear - do not copy aquabrowser
14:45 magnuse s/right hand column/sidebar/
14:44 oleonard http://catalog.columbuslibrary.org/?q=blue
14:44 magnuse yeah, let's use frames! that is soooo coool!
14:44 oleonard wizzyrea: That's why I thought having it in the sidebar would be good
14:44 * oleonard tries to find an example of how another system does it, finds a system using frames >:P
14:44 magnuse that's why i would like to have it in the right hand column, in a grey box...
14:44 wizzyrea nothing more annoying than a hopping next button
14:43 wizzyrea that never moves as you page through
14:43 wizzyrea they should be in a static location
14:43 wizzyrea yes, that is also a good point, cait
14:43 wizzyrea or just top, and pagination at the bottom
14:43 cait so you don't have to move the mouse to page through
14:43 wizzyrea I think prev/next should be at top and bottom
14:43 cait I like it at the top because it will not move around
14:43 wizzyrea ^^ agree with what she says
14:43 nengard woo hoo
14:43 magnuse ugly urls are gone!
14:43 nengard the pagination and the results on the bib detail can be at the bottom since that takes up a lot of space
14:42 wizzyrea I like the idea, did he fix the deal with the ugly url?
14:42 nengard most patrons won't scroll that far to see it
14:42 nengard if the bib had 30 items you'll never see that button :)
14:42 nengard above the bib detail
14:42 nengard of the page
14:42 magnuse at the top of what?
14:41 nengard at the top
14:41 nengard magnuse i would recommend that the back button be towards the top (and at the bottom if we want it in two places ... but it should be at thet op
14:40 magnuse it has quite a big impact on how the detail page in the opac looks...
14:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search
14:39 magnuse nengard and wizzyrea: i challenge you to look at bug 6483 and give an opinion (there are screenshots ;-)
14:39 cait my guest will arrive soon
14:38 cait I tried the plugins (have loaded UNIMARC framework) - but they needed rebasing
14:38 magnuse we can do it! (but i have to go make dinner soon ;-)
14:37 cait there is a lot of unimarc stuff too
14:37 cait next goal: 45
14:37 cait hope we can get the numbers down more
14:37 magnuse paul_p: maybe biblibre can sign off on the CAS stuff? that's 3 bugs right there...
14:37 wizzyrea hi atz :)
14:37 wizzyrea is why
14:37 wizzyrea because you said @magnuse
14:36 * paul_p querying wahanui to understand why he says "dl the perl source" ;-)
14:36 magnuse huh?
14:36 wahanui paul_p: I forgot paul_p
14:36 paul_p wahanui, forget paul_p
14:36 wahanui i guess paul_p is the bot
14:36 paul_p paul_p?
14:36 wahanui i heard magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
14:36 paul_p magnuse?
14:36 paul_p hi paul_p & cait
14:35 paul_p (for signing things, of marking doesn't apply or failed QA)
14:35 cait hi paul_p
14:35 paul_p cait++
14:35 paul_p magnuse++
14:35 huginn paul_p: downloading the Perl source
14:35 paul_p @magnus++
14:35 magnuse biblibre are setting aside half a day every other week!
14:34 magnuse yeah, if people are willing to take the time...
14:34 cait yep
14:34 wizzyrea we oughta just do it every month
14:34 wizzyrea ty everybody
14:34 wizzyrea global sign off day is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Global_sign_off_day,_2011-06-15
14:34 magnuse http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&field0-0-0=cf_patch_status&query_format=advanced&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=needs%20signoff&order=bug_id&list_id=7042
14:34 oleonard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Global_sign_off_day,_2011-06-15
14:33 cait magnuse++
14:33 cait lots of useful stuff on the global sign off day page
14:33 cait yep
14:33 oleonard They've got it on the wiki now for easy reference
14:32 * wizzyrea is so lazy
14:32 wizzyrea magnuse: whats the link to the query to get the bugs awaiting sign off?
14:32 cait YELLOOOOOW!
14:32 magnuse 50 http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/bug_status.pl - it's yellow! - woohoo
14:31 wizzyrea lol
14:31 oleonard mybrainsql returned an empty set
14:31 wizzyrea oy
14:31 wizzyrea ha
14:31 cait not much to forget then :)
14:31 wizzyrea >.>
14:30 wizzyrea oleonard: forget everything dumb wizzyrea has ever done
14:30 oleonard No, I'm sure I would remember... Uh oh.
14:30 Agent_Dani Are you sure it hasn't already been used on you?
14:30 wizzyrea lol
14:29 * oleonard would hate to see wizzyrea's memory-editing power used on himself
14:28 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot video
14:28 wizzyrea forget a video
14:28 wizzyrea http://idautomation.blogspot.com/2011/02/how-to-create-code-39-mod-43-check.html
14:28 wahanui a video is probably probably from rangi's hill
14:28 wizzyrea and a video!
14:27 wizzyrea and if you're super nerdy, here are the calc methods for most barcodes: http://www4.infoprintsolutionscompany.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.printers.afpproducts/com.ibm.printers.ppfaug/ib6p8mst334.htm
14:26 wizzyrea http://www.dlsoft.com/services/CheckCalc/
14:26 wizzyrea hm, winnebago seems to use Code 39 (possibly) so this calculator might be better:
14:23 oleonard wizzyrea++
14:22 wizzyrea anyway, hope that helps
14:21 mcleary I believe that one of them is the same as the spectrum just a different version. infocenter is also one
14:20 wizzyrea it's a bulk check digit calculator
14:20 wizzyrea in case you missed that link at the top of the page
14:20 wizzyrea http://www.morovia.com/bulk-check-digit-calculation/index.php
14:19 wizzyrea which is <reply>
14:19 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot which
14:19 wizzyrea forget which
14:18 wahanui hmmm... which is helpful too
14:18 wizzyrea which?
14:18 mcleary Once I get the Winnebego going, I still have 3 other to figure out
14:18 wizzyrea sounds familiar :)
14:18 mcleary most of this is completely alien to me. I am a systems administrator assisting with the migration of for different ILS systems into one cooperative system
14:17 oleonard proprietary--
14:17 wizzyrea if you know the symbology
14:16 wizzyrea might help you as well
14:16 wizzyrea http://www.morovia.com/education/utility/upc-ean.asp
14:16 wizzyrea 1. extract barcodes. 2. apply prefixes. 3. run algorithm. 4. recreate final barcode
14:16 wizzyrea it looks like if you know the format of the barcode you can probably locate the checkdigit computing algorithm
14:15 wizzyrea http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1136642/ean-8-how-to-calculate-checksum-digit
14:15 mcleary wonderful. any help I can get I am grateful for.
14:15 wizzyrea http://www.den4b.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=930
14:14 wizzyrea my coworker is looking something up quickly
14:14 wizzyrea mcleary: we had that exact problem with one of our libraries
14:14 wizzyrea I think it's proprietary :(
14:14 mcleary Does anyone know the database type of spectrum. I keep circling back to either dbase or foxpro, but have not had much luck
14:12 mcleary I was looking to do some brute force on the data files themselves, but have yet to find a reliable method of reverse engineering
14:12 wizzyrea mcleary: that was all for you
14:11 mcleary I have no done any direct queries on Winnebego. I am not sure how.
14:11 wizzyrea but I know it *can* be reverse engineered
14:11 wizzyrea :(
14:11 wizzyrea so we don't know what they did
14:11 wizzyrea unfortunately, our previous vendor did that manipulation for us when we had that problem
14:11 wizzyrea the checksums can probably be calculated
14:10 wizzyrea the extra digits are checksums + prefixes
14:10 mcleary when I run a barcode label print job, the full barcode is listed. It is not listed on any of the reports though
14:10 talljoy mcleary: I'd be interested in this also. I may be doing a winnebago export soon.
14:10 wizzyrea what's the link for the query to see
14:10 mcleary correct. the exports are only showing between 5 and 6 digits of the 14 characters
14:09 cait want to claim a bug? ;)
14:09 cait hi wizzyrea :)
14:09 wizzyrea ah mcleary let me ask some people
14:09 oleonard mcleary: So the export from winnebago has the incomplete barcode?
14:08 cait perhaps write to the list - more people reading there
14:08 cait sorry, I don't know winnebago
14:08 mcleary The exports are only showing the shortened barcode. We would like to preserve the barcodes into the new system. Does anyone know how, or where to get an materials list with the full barcode?
14:06 mcleary Good day everyone. I am looking for a little help on exporting MARC records from winnebago spectrum to Koha. I have been able to export records and get them into Koha, but i am having issues with the barcodes
14:06 oleonard Hi mcleary
14:02 cait probably pre TT
14:01 cait loooking at it - needs reformatting
14:01 cait ah
14:00 oleonard The patch doesn't apply for me
14:00 magnuse 52
13:58 cait what do you think about adding that warn?
13:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6133 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Authorised values administration, warn for modifs
13:58 oleonard cait: What was the question about bug 6133?
13:48 cait hm, not it gets hard to claimone
13:43 cait ah k007
13:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6133 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Authorised values administration, warn for modifs
13:42 magnuse bug 6133
13:42 oakivil no more no less
13:42 oakivil its kewl
13:42 oakivil k007 as good!
13:39 cait 3 more until yellow!
13:39 cait 53
13:38 cait oleonard: I looked at it during hackfest in marseille, but was not sure if it's a good idea or not
13:38 cait k007?
13:37 cait oleonard: could you take a look at 6133 later?
13:37 oakivil is k007
13:37 cait :)
13:36 oakivil well well Z39.50 works like a charm :D
13:33 cait yay
13:29 magnuse 54
13:21 oakivil damn
13:21 oakivil i chose default for everything
13:21 magnuse 9998 or 9999 is suggested as the default, i think
13:21 magnuse you configure that when you run "perl Makefile.PL"
13:20 magnuse when koha is used as a z39.50 server?
13:20 oakivil but what ithe inbound address
13:20 oakivil yes outbound
13:20 cait you can only open it for that server perhaps?
13:19 oakivil LOC uses 7090
13:19 oakivil now i need to open all those ports on my firewall
13:19 oakivil yeah
13:19 magnuse oakivil, you configure it on a per-server basis in Administration � Z39.50 Servers
13:18 cait you can configure the used port for each target, when you are behind a firewall you might need to change something there so that it works
13:17 oakivil so i can set it up from admin controls
13:17 cait 210 might be recommended, but in my experience a lot of different ports are used
13:17 oakivil download from external server
13:17 oakivil atleast the core to modify for our lib needs
13:17 cait ok
13:17 cait or you want your koha installation to act as z39.50 server?
13:17 oakivil yes
13:17 cait you want to download a record from an external source?
13:17 cait oakivil: sorry, got confused
13:16 oakivil koha tries to read the LOC catalog
13:16 cait sekjal++ :)
13:16 oakivil well using z39.50
13:16 cait but I think you should be able to configure that too
13:16 cait sorry, thought about z39.50 download
13:16 sekjal hey, all, I can't stay long (meetings), but I wanted to thank everyone working on the signoffs today. I'll try to make sure those are pushed through QA as quickly as I can
13:15 cait not sure
13:15 cait koha
13:15 cait ah
13:15 cait administration > z39.50 targets
13:15 oakivil LOC recommends 210
13:15 cait you can configure the port
13:15 cait no
13:15 cait used silver
13:15 oakivil by default
13:15 oakivil hmm is koha z39.50 configured to use port 210 as outbound?
13:14 cait new color for does not apply?
13:06 cait when we sign off another six... we will get yellow!
13:05 oleonard Moving my chat session to the laptop with the good connection
13:04 * cait won the battle with the blinking grub> line
13:03 cait you know... could be worse
13:03 oleonard I was fighting with it all day yesterday
13:03 oleonard I think a bad update to a network driver
13:01 cait velcro? :)
12:57 oleonard Oh good. Connection dropped out there for a minute.
12:56 * oleonard wonders if he's still here
12:54 oleonard Some random T:T fixes.
12:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit
12:53 oleonard I have a patch attached to Bug 5917 that could use a sign-off
12:53 oleonard Yeah, I've got that on my list magnuse
12:53 magnuse 56 http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/bug_status.pl
12:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search
12:53 magnuse oleonard: a few more pairs of eyes on bug 6483 feels appropriate... ;-)
12:52 cait Claim a bug! :)
12:51 cait but a comment or asing for a test plan is also good
12:51 cait yep
12:49 oleonard Lots of tough ones on that list.
12:49 cait 20 done
12:47 cait and hi oleonard
12:47 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Global_sign_off_day,_2011-06-15#Claim_a_bug.21
12:47 cait check the wiki page :)
12:47 cait I think we are making progress
12:47 cait ah
12:47 oleonard How's the signing off going?
12:40 * magnus_lunch too
12:30 cait back
11:22 Brooke Mums > Koha
11:22 Brooke 0/
11:15 magnuse 57
11:07 cait gonna meet with my mum, will be back a little later
11:07 * cait cait_afk
10:58 cait whohoo
10:57 magnuse 58
10:47 magnuse :-)
10:46 cait I agree, only teasing
10:45 magnuse so it makes sense to look at them together, i think
10:45 magnuse yeah, they are related
10:44 cait ah magnuse,now you claimed 2! :)
10:36 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Global_sign_off_day,_2011-06-15#Claim_a_bug.21
10:34 cait and all plz remember: today is global sign off day - claim a bug! :)
10:34 Brooke magnus: the laugh was for the wave
10:33 druthb Hi, Magnus. :)
10:32 * magnuse looks at Brooke with concern
10:25 Brooke hehehee
10:21 magnuse �/
10:21 magnuse o/
10:15 Brooke 0/
10:14 druthb o/
09:59 cait have fun Oak :)
09:57 Oak later guys, time for class
09:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search
09:56 magnuse hm, unsure about bug 6483 - it works beautifully, but i'm not sure about how it looks and where things are placed...
09:50 cait which can also do authorities now
09:50 cait ah, to be correct, I think it changed to bulkmarcimport
09:49 oakivil ok
09:49 cait we use the bulkauthimport command line script and that seems to work well
09:49 oakivil we can do that connection to our national authorities catalog no sweat
09:48 oakivil but its our problem here then
09:48 oakivil anyway its doable
09:48 oakivil ok but it does nightly updates to koha so
09:48 cait union catalog is not using koha, different software
09:47 cait it's a different model, not really a koha feature
09:46 oakivil ok
09:44 cait we import all linked and used authorities into koha nightly
09:44 cait we have one in our union catalog and libraries catalog there
09:44 oakivil for ex
09:44 oakivil authorized author names
09:44 cait I am talking about authorities :)
09:44 oakivil i mean the author,
09:44 cait GKD, SWD and PND databases
09:43 rangi library authorities? or authentication?
09:43 cait we basically have one
09:43 oakivil for ex Finland has a service for checking authorities
09:43 oakivil have you considered a central authorities server?
09:39 oakivil sorry copyastefailure
09:39 oakivil Kuitenkin Kohan “GNU General Public License†(gplv2) pakottaa kaikki yhtiöt kehittämään samaa tuotetta ilman mahdollisuutta sotkea sekaan lisensoituja ohjelmistokomponentteja.
09:38 Brooke smells like an alias to me :P
09:37 * cait stops counting how many times she typed git bsz instead of git bz today
09:37 Oak my heroes!
09:33 cait easy to forget that
09:33 cait hehe
09:33 cait cool :)
09:30 rangi :)
09:30 magnuse woohoo i rememberd to swith to english when a patch affecting templates looked like it didn't do anything ;-)
09:29 magnuse cool
09:28 rangi right, its gonna go yellow at 50
09:26 rangi ill make it go yellow at 50
09:26 rangi hang on
09:26 rangi yeah it wont go green until 30
09:26 cait and still orange
09:26 cait yay
09:26 magnuse 59
09:25 magnuse yay
09:23 cait was already signed-off
09:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6280 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Invalid SQL being passed in circulation checkout
09:23 cait ah nice, one wrong status for bug 6280
09:22 cait no :(
09:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6291 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Cart printing truncated in Firefox
09:22 magnuse anyone still got firefox 3.5 or thereabouts hanging around? looks like it's needed to test bug 6291
09:22 cait ah,it's missing 3.4
09:21 cait and on git.koha-community.org
09:21 magnuse oakivil, there are some stats here too: https://www.ohloh.net/p/koha
09:20 cait I had searched for the 3.4 post to verfiy my numbers
09:19 rangi ahh its a search
09:18 rangi thats a weird url
09:18 cait you can find some statistics here: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/?s=3.4&x=0&y=0 :)
09:18 cait hm
09:18 cait 66
09:18 rangi 144 in total
09:17 rangi 65 diff people in 2011
09:17 cait and almost 150 total now
09:16 oakivil thats a lot
09:16 cait speaking about 3.4
09:16 cait last release had 63 iirc
09:16 Brooke so can't go by nick
09:16 oakivil yeah
09:16 oakivil contributions from over 100 persons
09:16 Brooke yeah, but not a dev
09:16 oakivil 40 nicks hanging around
09:16 Brooke lots
09:16 oakivil so how many active developers you have?
09:14 rangi to protect from their stupid patents
09:14 rangi i wouldnt accept it, unless it was gpl3
09:14 rangi if we ever get a contribution from a proprietary vendor
09:13 rangi anyway = anyone
09:13 rangi its 3 now if anyway wants it to be, (the or later makes that easy)
09:13 rangi well really agpl3
09:12 Brooke there was much talk about shifting it to 3.
09:12 rangi to go green
09:12 rangi magnuse: 30
09:12 rangi gplv2 or later
09:12 oakivil what licence does koha run under?
09:12 magnuse rangi: when is the next colour change again?
09:11 Brooke I love how the cartoon Doctor has the floppy hair.
09:11 cait should be more precise
09:11 cait 50 / 49...
09:11 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5788746066/in/photostream
09:11 cait I want to see a five or four there
09:11 cait another 10 to my personal goal for today
09:11 * Brooke cheers.
09:11 rangi yay!
09:10 Brooke the Koha lads have been chippin' away at me "X proprietary system does a better job at Y" list.
09:10 magnuse yay, it's orange! http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/bug_status.pl
09:10 cait I always wanted to play with it... but koha keeps me busy enough :)
09:10 rangi but yeah, its free software so its already better than proprietary, not matter if it punches you in the face :-)
09:10 rangi only someone who has installed/developed/used it could give you a decent opinion on evergreen
09:10 magnuse +1
09:10 Brooke my opinion is that evergreen or koha = much much better than most other crap
09:10 rangi not a qualified one
09:09 oakivil :D
09:09 oakivil you guys must have a opinion
09:09 rangi you are better off asking that in #evergreen, but its free software too
09:09 oakivil apart from the fact that I cannot run it in our intranet
09:09 oakivil whats the deal with evergreen?
09:08 Brooke clearly he didn't read the "Don't Mess WIth A Timelord" warning.
09:07 rangi ive yet to see software that can stop that
09:07 cait oh I remember that
09:07 rangi and that was when the aircon guy dropped it on the floor
09:07 Brooke neither were a Koha issue ;)
09:07 Brooke and once when the power supply failed
09:07 Brooke once when the roomate yanked the plug to charge his mobile
09:07 rangi still the one outage at HLT, in 11 years
09:07 cait no, koha is very stable
09:07 Brooke my server went out twice
09:07 rangi course, koha doesnt actually break much anyway :)
09:06 Brooke wot's that second bit?
09:06 rangi report an issue, go to to sleep, and its fixed when you wake up
09:06 cait one failed qa
09:06 Brooke not so bad
09:06 Brooke though I suppose if you keep it humming
09:06 rangi actually works well
09:06 Brooke time difference blech!
09:06 * Brooke shivers.
09:05 * rangi has supported installs in europe from nz
09:05 oakivil I have been tinkering with their databases to try to map the relevant data for migration to okha and evergreen
09:04 rangi the other thing with koha, you dont need to be on site to support it
09:04 oakivil PallasPro
09:04 magnuse oakivil, which system?
09:03 rangi http://mako.cc/writing/hill-when_free_software_isnt_better.html <-- a very good read
09:02 Brooke orphaned products ftl
09:02 Brooke doh
09:02 rangi which still doesnt fix your bug
09:02 oakivil support has been canceled for our current systems
09:02 rangi and get told to wait for the next version
09:02 rangi and get nothing
09:02 oakivil that is the problem here in finland too
09:02 rangi proprietary you pay
09:02 oakivil yesh, no vendor lock in
09:02 rangi with free software you actually do get support
09:01 oakivil well its good to make aquintances
09:01 rangi well there is
09:01 rangi theres nothing different in paying for support for free software or proprietary
09:01 oakivil :D
09:01 oakivil i know that magnus
09:01 oakivil yes that is one option
09:01 * Brooke points out that one could do worse than have Magnus as their "one man".
09:01 magnuse oakivil, probably, i'm magnus enger of libriotech ;-)
09:01 oakivil we cant let the maintenance of our ils on one person
09:01 rangi oakivil: or they could just pay a support company, instead of paying license fees :)
09:01 oakivil yeah we need a sufficient library base to fund several people
09:00 Brooke oakivil: that's ideal. Some do not have that luxury, so bear that in mind.
09:00 oakivil magnus are you the one-man ils company we have been talking about here in Finland?
09:00 magnuse closed source modules = vendor lock in
09:00 magnuse part of what's good about koha is you can swith vendors without switching ILS. that only works as long as the whole system is free software
09:00 Oak yes, and I'll definitely ask for help cait
09:00 oakivil the migration from version to version
09:00 * rangi is less an open source proponent and more a free software proponent
08:59 oakivil the way i have observed is that i should recommend libraries using koha to have a separate section of personell to maintain koha installations
08:59 cait Oak: that's ok :) you know where to find us if you have questions
08:59 rangi its unethical, wrong and evil
08:59 oakivil yay!
08:59 magnuse yay
08:59 rangi friends dont let friends use proprietary software
08:59 oakivil hmm
08:58 oakivil ok
08:58 cait oakivil: we share all we do too - but we do only small things so far
08:58 Oak cait, well, I definitely want to learn this... may be not today, but I will prepare myself for next sign-off day, as in an hour I have to leave for my class, after that I need to prepare a presentation and email to my teacher...
08:58 oakivil ill write that up :D
08:58 Brooke closed source, unlike good intentions, is actually a good chunk of pavers on the road to hell.
08:58 oakivil is k007
08:58 oakivil ok
08:58 rangi no
08:58 oakivil not even for separate modules?
08:58 oakivil i mean closed source
08:58 rangi luckily the license doesnt allow that
08:57 oakivil or certain modules as such
08:57 oakivil there must be interest to have parts as open source
08:57 rangi all of it
08:57 oakivil how much of the work the companies do are actuially shared as open source?
08:57 oakivil there are lots of different companies here developing koha
08:56 cait yes, a koha for testing things is a requirement :)
08:56 cait ohok
08:55 Oak don't want to interrupt your work. my system has a relatively new Slackware 13.37 install. First I need to install Koha... then I can do anything :-|
08:54 cait Oak: need help?
08:44 * Oak reading http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
08:43 Brooke arright good people "You test it." ain't good enough. :P
08:43 magnuse thanks cait :-)
08:43 cait we can help you :)
08:43 cait graet test report
08:43 cait magnuse++
08:42 magnuse Oak: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
08:42 Oak I don't know how to :-|
08:41 cait Oak: what about you? want to sign-off on something? :)
08:41 cait right g
08:41 Oak mr robin
08:40 cait magnuse: now I feel less crazy, but robinwill not be happy
08:40 rangi 61
08:39 rangi have to fail qa it, if 2 people get the same thats good enough for a fail qa
08:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6199 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items
08:38 magnuse cait: sadly i got the same results as you for bug 6199...
08:37 cait almost done with my bug
08:37 cait coup device?
08:37 cait :)
08:37 * Brooke thinks rangi needs a virtual coup device.
08:36 * rangi marks one works for me
08:34 Brooke nice rangi
08:34 Brooke kiiiiia orrrraaaa
08:34 rangi 3 more to get it to change to orange
08:34 magnuse kia ora Brooke
08:34 magnuse 63
08:25 Brooke tag
08:25 cait hi Brooke
08:19 Oak heya Brooke :)
08:19 Brooke kia ora
08:06 cait it's ok, back to signing off patches!
08:06 cait ;)
08:04 Oak hmm
08:03 cait yeah, mr robins comment was not nice
08:03 cait only checking
08:03 Oak who? mr. robin?
08:03 cait germs?
08:03 cait :P
08:03 cait now he hurt my feelings...
08:01 Oak hehe, you are a jolly good fellow mr. robin
08:01 eythian you're all bad people! ;)
07:57 eythian bye
07:57 Oak take care mr. robin
07:57 eythian :)
07:57 eythian :P
07:57 cait have a nice evening mr robin
07:57 eythian alright, another couple of hours of workshop planned out. Time to go home.
07:55 rangi you wont see microsoft at free software conferences, but yeah they are happy to try to subvert the open source ones
07:55 eythian magnuse: it is. I guess it's microsoft's "we're all happy and friendly with open source (ignore the fact we're suing people for using it too)" kick.
07:54 rangi magnuse: its kinda the difference between open source and free software
07:54 eythian yeah. That happens a lot in Asian/Pacific places. In the Solomon Islands I was referred to formally as "Mr. Robin"
07:54 magnuse eythian: looks like a strange combo...
07:53 cait :)
07:53 cait mr. robin sheat
07:51 eythian http://www.mosc.my/index.php <-- the front page is all about Microsoft Azure, and Koha. I'm not quite sure how I feel about that :)
07:51 magnuse i'll test without the s now...
07:51 cait yeah
07:51 cait hm looking at my pastes on the patch it seems i tested without s :(
07:50 eythian cait: however, the command line you pasted into the bug was correct
07:50 cait aha!
07:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6199 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items
07:49 magnuse eythian, cait: i think i see a minor problem with the patch for bug 6199: the pod says the option is -dedupbarcodes but GetOptions is looking for dedupbarcode without the s: 'dedupbarcode' => \$dedup_barcode,
07:42 cait rangi++
07:41 Oak :]
07:41 cait :)
07:40 cait 65
07:40 cait incorrect
07:38 Oak *++
07:34 magnuse yay
07:34 rangi 66
07:31 Oak :)
07:31 cait ah, checked wrong screen, now I see it
07:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6479 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, NEW , Encoding problem in "recievedlist" when the numbering formula contains utf-8 characters
07:30 cait hm, can't reproduce bug 6479
07:28 magnuse yay
07:22 cait patches waiting for sign off: 67
07:04 eythian Irma: I'm going to spend another hour or so sketching out more workshop plans.
07:04 Oak hehe
07:03 eythian damnit, I spend so much time using vim, I can't use a regular editor without filling it with jjjjkkk type things.
07:02 Oak :)
07:01 cait yeah
07:01 Oak umm, good? :)
07:01 eythian cait: I'm hoping that it works for him ;)
07:01 cait Oak: you remind me of yoda today
07:00 Oak no failed... just one more way how *not* to fix it
07:00 cait not sure what to hope - that it works for magnuse or that he sees the same things I did :)
07:00 cait ... the one I failed on
06:59 eythian sweet
06:59 julian hello #koha
06:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6199 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items
06:59 magnuse eythian, just fyi i'm testing bug 6199 now
06:57 cait ok thx :)
06:56 magnuse or shift+reload
06:56 magnuse cait: ctrl+shift+r
06:56 eythian cait: ctrl-f5
06:55 magnuse part of free software is giving something back - to me paying a company so someone can do stuff like sign off patches on your behalf looks like one way to give back
06:55 cait f5 + ?
06:55 cait hm what was the trick to reload javascript?
06:53 cait hm, I think they are ok paying as long as they get something for it
06:51 oakivil and they are so pissed about that
06:51 oakivil they always do
06:50 oakivil the December lunar eclipse hits my birthday!
06:50 magnuse ;-)
06:50 magnuse i guess the customers are doing the paying...
06:49 cait oakivil: I think most of us do
06:49 cait hi christophe_c
06:48 christophe_c hello all
06:46 oakivil so you guys/gals are all working for some company that pays for your development effort?
06:45 magnuse another one bites the dust...
06:44 cait patches waiting for sign off: 68 - magnuse++
06:38 * magnuse will not be able to see the lunar eclipse, because it will be below the horizon... :-(
06:29 reiveune hi cait, Oak
06:29 cait hi reiveune
06:29 Oak hello reiveune
06:29 Oak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2011_lunar_eclipse
06:29 reiveune hello
06:22 magnuse moi oakivil
06:22 Oak :)
06:22 alex_a hi magnuse cait Oak and all :)
06:22 Oak hello oakivil
06:21 oakivil morning #koha
06:17 magnuse nope
06:17 cait summoning didn't work :)
06:14 magnuse slef or rangi, perhaps?
06:14 Oak Bonjour alex_a
06:14 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Global_sign_off_day,_2011-06-15#Claim_a_bug.21
06:14 cait to have the new date for the next meeting and a hint about sign-off-day?
06:14 cait can someone change the motd?
06:14 cait hi alex_a :)
06:13 magnuse bonjour alex_a
06:13 alex_a bonjour
06:09 Oak Heya magnuse :)
06:09 magnuse hiya Oak
06:09 Oak :]
06:08 magnuse ...and #koha
06:08 magnuse guten morgen cait
06:08 cait god morgen magnuse! :)
06:06 Oak i guess :) or told someone and he was listening
06:06 cait I think you have told him :)
06:05 huginn cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 16.6�C (8:10 AM CEST on June 15, 2011). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 28.82 in 975.8 hPa (Steady).
06:05 cait @wunder Reutlingen
06:05 Oak hmm... i see. weird.
06:05 cait Oak: he learns from what people tell him
06:02 wahanui you are kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies
06:02 cait cait?
06:02 wahanui cait: what?
06:02 cait wahanui does know a lot of things
06:02 * Oak goes to check xchat settings
06:02 Oak whoa how does he know that
06:02 wahanui you are Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla.
06:02 Oak me?
06:02 cait we still have a lot to choose from
06:01 cait so, want to claim a bug too?
06:01 Oak that helps
06:01 Oak oh good
06:01 cait it made me laugh
06:01 Oak okay
06:01 cait that's ok :)
06:01 Oak sorry about the 'you can cry now' comment by me :|
06:01 cait I knew it was possible to fix it- because it has been done 2 times before. the question was only how
06:00 cait hehe thx
06:00 Oak cait++
06:00 Oak good
06:00 Oak that's how we do it!!! we don't re-install. we fix.
06:00 cait so I am ready to claim a bug now
05:59 cait :)
05:59 cait it seems the other things I found before missed a chroot /dev
05:59 * Oak hugs cait
05:59 cait when I was about to give up I found another manual and that worked
05:59 Oak without fresh install?
05:59 cait yep :)
05:59 Oak did it yourself?
05:58 cait yep :)
05:58 Oak your laptop problem... fixed?
05:57 cait hi #koha
04:19 huginn rangi: Quote #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking me about the browser!!!! yes it's the #$%$#%$#ing IE was messing my cataloguing, oh I hate miscrosoft, the evil!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:00 PM, November 05, 2009)
04:19 rangi @quote random
02:29 wahanui privet, bgallagher
02:29 bgallagher hi
02:09 hdl hi bgallagher
02:06 bgallagher hey
02:06 rangi hey bgallagher
01:46 rangi we only got 2/10 in the networking round :)
01:45 druthb congrats, rangi! :)
01:44 * rangi shows off
01:44 rangi http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/wellington-pm/2011-June/001431.html
01:43 rangi pretty cool
01:43 rangi http://www.osslabs.biz/news/british-council-libraries-adopt-koha
01:43 druthb hi, rangi! :D
01:39 hdl hi rangi
01:38 rangi hi druthb and hdl
01:29 druthb o/
00:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5714 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Unescaped ampersands in OPAC facets
00:55 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5714 follow up removing the debugging message
00:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #299: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/299/
00:12 jenkins_koha Starting build 299 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5714 follow up removing the debugging message <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=abdd5e8ced775000c827e40befc21fa36caa340f>