Time  Nick                Message
23:05 Brooke              dinnah :D
23:02 rangi               Cya
23:02 pianohacker         bye all, concert time
22:59 Brooke              a yep
22:45 rangi               you can export and put ur data in another mahara of course
22:45 rangi               but no reason a library can't offer the same for its community
22:40 Brooke              that's awesome
22:39 rangi               follows them from kindegarten to uni
22:39 rangi               nz kids can get a portfolio at myportfolio
22:38 Brooke              <3 mah alma mater. <3 it.
22:38 Brooke              http://cterport.ed.uiuc.edu/Plone/technologies_folder/mahara-tutorials
22:37 * Brooke            shivers at the thought of anitsirk meeting up with Linda Smith.
22:36 Brooke              moodle + mahara = cool beans for Uni
22:36 Brooke              that's what it's meant for ;)
22:36 pianohacker         rangi: this mahara software looks _perfectly_ designed for an academic environment
22:34 pianohacker         does anyone know of any wiki software that has well integrated ldap/sso?
22:29 rhcl                OK, Friday's over, time for chow. Later everybody...
22:28 rhcl                I'll check it out.
22:28 rangi               mahara let's them build a resume and have different 'views' for different audiences, which they can print etc
22:27 rangi               public libraries get used a lot by jobseekers
22:27 rangi               I know in nz
22:26 rhcl                yea, I'm looking at it now
22:25 rangi               mahara.org
22:25 rhcl                yea
22:24 rangi               mahara?
22:24 rhcl                first I've heard of it
22:24 rangi               portfolio even
22:24 rangi               so u can give all ur users a eporfolio
22:23 rangi               and that would rule
22:23 rangi               put in status.net and mahara too
22:23 rangi               I have 2 testers
22:23 rhcl                I have this notion that there should be a complete suite of complimentary library systems, like Koha, DSpace, Libki and a children's computer
22:23 rangi               be something Ill want to play with too :)
22:22 rhcl                yea, so I was thinking
22:22 rangi               its links in the code, like static linked libraries, sounds like nothing like that to worry about
22:21 rangi               *nod*
22:21 rhcl                There are outside links to sites like pbs kids
22:21 rangi               ahh prolly safe to license that anyway u want then
22:21 rhcl                the games are all local executables and not really part of the project per se, but they are all currently listed in a MySql db for various reasons. He has the scripts and some server-side HTML code to generate the interface.
22:20 rangi               (if there are links)
22:19 rangi               etc even
22:19 rangi               and how linked etx
22:19 rangi               ull have to look into what license the stuff you are building on is
22:18 rangi               excellent
22:17 rhcl                This is our children's computer project. aogle has done some really good work with it.
22:16 rangi               lots of the things I write are commandline driven gpl3 works just fine for that
22:14 rangi               where it makes sense
22:14 rangi               agpl3 yep
22:13 rhcl                I thought you were one of the AGPL advocates?
22:13 rangi               gpl3 is my default
22:12 rhcl                This is semi-web based, I guess I need to look at the agpl.
22:12 rangi               I want to release it, so I better license it
22:12 rangi               yeah
22:12 pianohacker         wouldn't the best guideline be "if I care what people do with this, it's time to attach a license"
22:12 rangi               as soon as u want to release it
22:11 pianohacker         I'd say ~250 as a rough guideline
22:10 rhcl                so what say we wrote a few little py and php scripts for a project, and they are pretty simple w/ less than 50 lines in each. How much mass do you need before you attach a license to it (either the individual scripts or the project?)
21:53 Brooke              cheers
21:53 cait                good night all
21:53 cait                will worry about it in the morning
21:51 Brooke              :)
21:51 rangi               heya Brooke
21:50 Brooke              kia ora
21:50 cait                hmpf!
21:49 rangi               hehe
21:49 cait                small_suitcase--
21:45 rangi               http://www.wakaama.co.nz/racecalendar/lookup.php?regatta_uid=1000-0000790
21:42 wizzyrea            niiice
21:41 rangi               sekjal++ #patches passed qa
21:40 cait                :)
21:39 rangi               libraries_reporting_bugs_and_attempting_to_fix_them_too++
21:39 rangi               yay!!
21:39 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6454 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Searching  by callnumber uses callnum,wrdl not callnum,phr
21:39 rangi               bug 6454
21:30 wizzyrea            ;)
21:30 wizzyrea            depends on your definition of 'safe'
21:29 ketchup             is it safe now?
21:29 ketchup             and tomatoes to make homemade ketchup
21:21 wizzyrea            :D
21:21 rangi               time to plant kumara :)
21:21 rangi               http://www.matarikifestival.org.nz/
21:21 rangi               matariki starts too
21:20 rangi               hmmm
21:05 pianohacker         of course
21:05 rangi               and send it upstream too of course :)
21:04 pianohacker         ah, right
21:04 pianohacker         love the language, especially in comparison to perl
21:04 rangi               it should be any easy change and call put it in the gitorious repo
21:04 pianohacker         not recently as much, but I've done a fair amount
21:04 rangi               have u done much python?
21:03 pianohacker         less stressed today, won't try to throw git-bz out the window again :)
21:02 pianohacker         hey chris
21:02 rangi               Hi pianohacker
21:01 pianohacker         hi cait
21:01 cait                hi pianohacker
21:00 wahanui             hola, pianohacker
21:00 pianohacker         hola
20:43 sekjal              okay, have a good weekend, #koha!  time to get a little rest...
20:42 cait                :)
20:41 wizzyrea            cait++ thanks
20:41 rangi               yep
20:40 cait                all items fields that arenot mapped go into the xml field
20:40 cait                mtj had a bug for that I think
20:40 cait                so probably goes in moresubfieldsxml
20:40 wizzyrea            ?!
20:40 cait                nowhere
20:40 cait                ah
20:40 wizzyrea            (coded location qualifier)
20:40 cait                what is the description?
20:40 wizzyrea            table/field
20:39 wizzyrea            what table is 952$f stored in?
20:36 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6452 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Missing SQL placeholders
20:36 jenkins_koha        * semarie-koha: Bug 6452: Use placeholders in sql
20:36 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6362 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , Fix MARC display in OPAC
20:36 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6350 trivial, P5, ---, nengard, NEW , Bug for tracking updates to the history file
20:36 jenkins_koha        * semarie-koha: Bug 6452 : Use placeholders in sql but makepayment seems dead code ?
20:36 jenkins_koha        * Chris Cormack: Bug 6350 Adding Fridolyn Somers to the history
20:36 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5918 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , When AddPatronLists is set to "general" and EnhancedMessagingPreferences is set, messaging prefs not copied from defaults
20:36 jenkins_koha        * fridolyn.somers: BUG6436 Don't allow deletion of an itemtype used in items.itype
20:36 jenkins_koha        * ruth: Bug 6362: fixes display to re-embed items in OPAC MARC view
20:36 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5683 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, REOPENED , link_bibs_to_authorities.pl can corrupt records
20:36 jenkins_koha        * Chris Cormack: Bug 6350 - Keeping history page up to date
20:36 jenkins_koha        * Chris Cormack: Bug 5918 : Use the default messaging preferences if the user does not select any
20:36 jenkins_koha        * Chris Cormack: Fixing permissions, no need for this file to be executable
20:36 jenkins_koha        * jcamins: Bug 5683 follow-up: calls to ModBiblio can still fail
20:36 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6429 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Updating development team in about
20:36 jenkins_koha        * jcamins: Add unit tests to ensure bug 5683 doesn't reappear
20:36 jenkins_koha        * Chris Cormack: Bug 6429 : Fixing numbering of developers
20:36 jenkins_koha        * m.de.rooy: 6429: Sync history/about
20:36 jenkins_koha        * m.de.rooy: 6429: Sync history/about
20:36 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_3.4.x build #5: SUCCESS in 1 h 8 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/5/
20:34 rangi               semarie++
20:32 rangi               nothing too major but definitely issues
20:32 rangi               once the kids are asleep tonight ill work on some fixes
20:31 rangi               :)
20:30 wizzyrea            maybe he'll find the one they did ^.^
20:30 rangi               yep
20:30 wizzyrea            ^^ that is good though
20:30 rangi               but Sébastien has found some issues that we are fixing
20:30 wizzyrea            (along with everyone else they report security claims for)
20:29 wizzyrea            and yet their site claims we haven't responded in over 90 days
20:29 rangi               haven't heard anything back from the russians yet
20:28 cait                semarie++
20:27 rangi               right cornflaked and bananaed
20:27 Brooke              0/
20:23 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6452 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Missing SQL placeholders
20:23 jenkins_koha        * semarie-koha: Bug 6452: Use placeholders in sql
20:23 jenkins_koha        * semarie-koha: Bug 6452 : Use placeholders in sql but makepayment seems dead code ?
20:23 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #277: SUCCESS in 1 h 11 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/277/
20:19 Brooke              0/
20:09 Brooke              http://ifrt.blogspot.com/2011/05/pirate-party-and-annual-conference.html
20:02 * Brooke            perks up at the offer of venison stew.
20:01 rangi               brb gotta feed the natives
19:59 cait                :)
19:58 rangi               http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui
19:57 rangi               check my flickr
19:55 rangi               shows why im using my phone
19:55 rangi               cait ill upload a photo
19:55 Brooke              go you patch writin' people :D
19:55 huginn`             New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6453] The "Compare barcodes list to results" functionnality of inventory.pl can't find barcodes <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6453>
19:55 Brooke              linda++
19:55 Brooke              indeed!
19:54 rangi               linda++
19:54 Brooke              dyac!
19:54 rangi               autocorrect fail
19:53 rangi               yes
19:53 cait                invented
19:53 cait                ah
19:53 rangi               :)
19:53 rangi               called email
19:53 cait                ?
19:53 rangi               they invited this thing
19:53 wahanui             rumour has it beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy
19:53 sekjal              beer?
19:53 adnc                uyy
19:52 Brooke              man's got to have his beer sometime.
19:51 Brooke              it is Saturday
19:51 cait                eythian is a bit hard to catch for us Europeans :)
19:50 adnc                eythian ping
19:50 adnc                ohh
19:49 rangi               eythian is who u need to ask not me
19:49 rangi               pushed another patch to do with it
19:48 adnc                hello, any news to koha debian 3.4
19:48 adnc                rangi
19:48 cait                Ich weiss es nicht genau - frag doch rangi
19:47 adnc                cait weisst du was aus 3.4 für debian geworden ist
19:34 Brooke              0/
19:34 wizzyrea            sekjal++
19:27 jenkins_koha        Starting build 5 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:25 sekjal              got it
19:24 rangi               on gitweb sekjal
19:24 rangi               trolling--
19:24 sekjal              rss feed for new commits?
19:21 wizzyrea            righteously indignant, possibly.
19:21 rangi               are u trolling rhcl?
19:21 wizzyrea            a predatory company tricks people into believing their software is something it isn't, and *we* are the mean ones?
19:19 rhcl                you guys are really mean
19:18 rangi               if anyone tries to say its koha, the facts beg to differ
19:17 rangi               http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-06-03#i_685127
19:16 cait                yep
19:16 oleonard            Of course it's unmaintainable. You have to have actual contributors to maintain translations.
19:16 cait                I have no problem with that
19:15 wizzyrea            supposedly "unmaintainable"
19:15 oleonard            I notice they also took out the list of translations. Presumably because they don't give a crap about anyone outside of their market.
19:14 rangi               hopefully users might take notice
19:14 oleonard            If only it would have an effect.
19:13 wizzyrea            oleonard with the smackdown
19:12 huginn`             New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6452: Use placeholders in sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b3c9e3ef975c72fb025930d58358d3564cb0aac> / Bug 6452 : Use placeholders in sql but makepayment seems dead code ? <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4475e9a67574c32cd01b47bf6f22aeb3cc0eb648>
19:12 jenkins_koha        Starting build 277 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:11 chris_n             got them, tnx
19:10 chris_n             yup
19:10 rangi               hi all
19:10 rangi               try now
19:09 chris_n             heya cait
19:09 cait                and hi rangi and chris_n
19:09 chris_n             time to get pushy ;-)
19:08 cait                I only see the branch, butnot on master
19:08 chris_n             repo, even
19:08 chris_n             on git.koha... or in my just fetched reop
19:07 rangi               hmmm
19:07 chris_n             still don't see it
19:06 * chris_n           wonders if git is slow today :)
19:06 rangi               pushed to master just now
19:06 chris_n             and it has been pushed to master?
19:06 rangi               yah that one
19:05 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6452 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Missing SQL placeholders
19:05 rangi               nope bug 6452
19:05 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6542 was not found.
19:05 rangi               hmm maybe bug 6542
19:05 chris_n             rangi: 6452 ?
19:04 wizzyrea            that would be amusing
19:04 rangi               Fridolyn too
19:04 rangi               library_systems_guy: I added you to the history and about page
19:04 rangi               should I link to the stats post and see if he goes mental again
19:03 rangi               yeah
19:02 oleonard-away       One of "various"
19:02 bg                  ?
19:01 rangi               ohh so thats the strategy now is it, pretend koha is a fork ... classy
18:55 huginn`             rangi: The operation succeeded.
18:55 rangi               @later tell chris_n please look at bug 6452 (pushed to master) for 3.2.10
17:40 oleonard-away       5:45 AM where he is adnc
17:40 adnc                ping rangi
17:37 Ropuch              I hate encoding issues in perl/python ;/
17:35 Ropuch              I'm pulling some data from utf8 database in perl script, but after printing them in terminal (system locale utf8) all I can see is a mess
17:29 cait                hi Ropuch
17:19 Ropuch              Evening #koha
17:14 adnc                ;)
17:14 adnc                how is kohas debian package doing?
17:13 cait                hi adnc :)
17:11 adnc                hello koha
16:33 conan               but I'm not the boss and he has some deadlines coming soon
16:33 conan               oleonard: I know, I'm fighting strongly to not do that
16:32 oleonard            conan: If you do too much work not following the proper protocol you're setting yourself up for more pain when upgrade time comes
16:30 oleonard            I suspect it's fixable but hasn't been a priority to anyone
16:29 oleonard            You'll have to investigate conan. It could be that the correct variable isn't available to the template in some cases
16:28 conan               or there are more complicated structural things going around?
16:28 conan               is just a matter of getting in and fixing that by pointing to some syspref already created?
16:28 conan               I mean
16:27 conan               why are they hard coded?
16:27 conan               the hard coded paths
16:27 conan               one last thing
16:27 conan               I'll had to take a look at the work involved first, I'm running low on time, can't follow proper protocol for now
16:26 wizzyrea            (that's an ongoing effort)
16:26 wizzyrea            (add one and submit a patch?)
16:26 conan               but if a column doesn't have an ID then is the same problem
16:26 conan               with css I can hide IDed stuff
16:25 conan               oleonard: not an option, I don't make the rules
16:25 clrh                have a good week end...
16:25 cait                the father/mother relationship thing
16:25 conan               he even tinkered around in templates yesterday, but I think that's not the way to go, since we would make an ugly fork
16:25 cait                I think some of the things for infants are even hidden by a syspref
16:25 oleonard            Or you could ignore the stuff that isn't relevant ;)
16:24 cait                you can hide a lot of things easily using css or jquery
16:24 cait                but hiding should not be too difficult
16:24 cait                ah
16:24 cait                a
16:24 conan               cait: he want me to hide some stuff, like prices (we don't use money here) and infants for example
16:23 cait                conan: what is your boss asking for?
16:23 cait                sounds like a lot of work :(
16:23 cait                yeah,but you would have to reimplement every new featur in your new theme set, right?
16:22 oleonard            I stand corrected. That's the one.
16:22 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places
16:22 conan               I've found bug 2774
16:21 oleonard            No, but it sounds like that's the least of your problems.
16:21 conan               is there a bug for this hard coded thingy?
16:20 conan               like the translate script or another one I still don't know
16:20 conan               oleonard: hum... but I fear a script could automatically blow stuff
16:20 oleonard            and manage the merges in git.
16:19 oleonard            On the other hand conan, if you just wanted to make a few changes you could try doing it in its own branch
16:19 conan               my boss is asking for that badly
16:19 conan               I really need a customized installation
16:19 conan               ah crap
16:19 * oleonard          's search finds 82 instances of a hard-coded "/prog/" path in the templates
16:18 * wizzyrea          has done it. Doesn't do it anymore for precisely that reason.
16:18 oleonard            That's the trouble... there's no good workflow for that. That's why no one is doing it.
16:17 conan               but how do I keep up later? when I try to merge new changes?
16:17 conan               and the opacthemes too I guess
16:16 oleonard            ...and then change the template name in system preferences
16:16 oleonard            If you wanted to try this, you'd have to copy the whole "prog" directory under a new name
16:16 conan               problem is I'll loose everything after the next 'translate install'
16:16 oleonard            Sorry conan I told you wrong
16:15 conan               oleonard: so I can just touch the es-ES subtree, since it's not under git
16:15 huginn`             wizzyrea: Quote #106: "<jwagner> Bah, humbug" (added by druthb at 01:31 PM, November 29, 2010)
16:15 wizzyrea            @quote random
16:15 library_systems_guy thanks conan and wizzyrea
16:14 huginn`             wizzyrea: Quote #72: "<nengard> it's evil xslt in the staff client" (added by jdavidb at 12:28 PM, April 29, 2010)
16:14 wizzyrea            @quote random
16:14 conan               library_systems_guy: congratulations :)
16:14 wizzyrea            too true
16:14 huginn`             wizzyrea: Quote #103: "<cait>: Nobody can find you hiding in Search.pm ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 09:18 PM, November 13, 2010)
16:14 wizzyrea            @quote random
16:14 conan               clrh: pretty clear, thanks
16:14 wizzyrea            ha
16:14 huginn`             wizzyrea: Quote #127: "Oracle now has little choice but to abandon its commercial ambitions for OOo because the growing momentum of the more inclusive LibreOffice fork is making OOo irrelevant" (added by wizzyrea at 07:10 PM, April 18, 2011)
16:14 wizzyrea            @quote random
16:13 huginn`             wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #141 added.
16:13 wizzyrea            @quote add library_systems_guy: w00t I'm officially part of something cool :)
16:13 library_systems_guy im officially part of something cool :)
16:13 library_systems_guy w00t
16:12 wizzyrea            now you can do a patch to the history file >.>
16:12 wizzyrea            :)
16:11 library_systems_guy im pretty stoked
16:11 f3ew                yay
16:11 library_systems_guy MY FIRST PATCH GOT ACCEPTED :D
16:07 oleonard            And yes, conan, you would have to reproduce the whole 'en' subtree
16:07 clrh                (I don't know if my english is clear enought...)
16:07 oleonard            Theoretically it should be possible, but a lot of hardcoded paths to the prog template may still be around
16:06 clrh                conan: from what I know, it is not possible to do it simply, you can't (I think) define a template for a website and configure it - we have this problem for clients who ask us specific template modification...
16:04 conan               what if I want to remove a column, for example?
16:04 conan               it seems overkill
16:04 conan               should I reproduce a full 'en' subtree?
16:03 conan               a template question: what if I want to make visual modifications to my installation of koha
15:59 wahanui             website is http://www.koha-community.org
15:59 wizzyrea            website?
15:59 wizzyrea            website is http://www.koha-community.org
15:59 wahanui             wizzyrea: I forgot website
15:59 wizzyrea            forget website
15:59 wahanui             website is back, bot will be a bit longer
15:59 wizzyrea            website?
15:58 wizzyrea            just for balance
15:58 wizzyrea            http://www.koha-community.org
15:57 Oak                 like the 'oy'
15:57 Oak                 hehe
15:56 wizzyrea            we don't type that url here.
15:56 wizzyrea            oy, is there a command to strike a line from the log :(
15:56 tcohen              ouch: http://www.koha.org/
15:52 Oak                 \o
15:45 conan               fredericd: you around?
15:45 conan               I'm not seeing bug numbers in commits that provide po files
15:45 conan               what are the steps to provide a fix for po files?
15:45 wahanui             conan: huh?
15:45 conan               wahanui: not talking to you bot
15:44 conan               plop?
15:44 wahanui             hey, conan
15:44 conan               cait: hi
15:40 nengard             hiya
15:40 cait                hi #koha
15:19 conan               is '%%' a correct string in po files?
14:58 magnuse             gotta run - good luck conan
14:54 magnuse             could be
14:53 conan               that should be it...
14:53 conan               I've found a % alone
14:53 conan               magnuse: is in the strings that follow the code-block looking snippet
14:52 magnuse             hm, sorry, can't see any problems there...
14:51 magnuse             and that there are no spaces or linebreaks between % and s
14:51 pastebot            "conan" at 190.220.130.20 pasted "learning to translate" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/74
14:50 magnuse             hm, not sure, i think it's the total that matters
14:50 conan               cause I have the same ammount of %s, but they are not distributed equally on the lines being translated
14:49 conan               magnuse: I have three lines, do the %s have to match on a line by line basis or the full total is what should be equal?
14:47 magnuse             2 or 3 lines above
14:47 magnuse             i think my errors were above the reported line number
14:47 magnuse             check the strings around the line you got
14:46 magnuse             that was the problem for me, it had become "% s" a couple of places
14:46 conan               there's no msgid nor msgstr there
14:46 magnuse             conan: check that you have the same number of %s in the original and the translated
14:46 conan               #. %8$s:  ELSE
14:46 conan               and I see what looks like code:
14:46 conan               so I edit with vi the po file
14:46 huginn`             chris_n: The operation succeeded.
14:46 chris_n             @later tell rangi I forwarded that email along to our head librarian, tnx
14:45 conan               and what I guess is a line number
14:45 conan               number of format specifications in 'msgid' and 'msgstr' does not match
14:45 conan               magnuse: what now? I need to read about .po! got a message telling me :
14:41 magnuse             conan: yeah, just open and save
14:39 conan               13 errors, interesting, this is workking :)
14:37 conan               magnuse: you just open and save? no touching?
14:36 conan               I'll try poedit now
14:35 conan               no line number, no nothing
14:35 conan               %E: Unknown or unsupported format specification
14:35 conan               I only got this line even with verbose on:
14:35 conan               but can't find a way to get more info
14:34 conan               magnuse: I have an error, was checking translate script because information is not enough
14:30 magnuse             i had a similar problem until kf told me to open and save the file in Poedit - that showed me two errors and when i fixed them things got a lot better...
14:30 magnuse             conan: there could be errors in the .po file
14:19 druthb              o/
14:18 danmc               morning druthb
14:15 conan               I'm talking about a single line of text
14:15 conan               what could mean a translation is in the po file but it's not in the UI?
14:06 magnuse             i think catalyst have used nginx, but i'm not sure if they use it as a webserver or more for proxy/load balancing
14:05 wizzyrea            yes, that
14:05 huginn`             magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
14:05 magnuse             @quote get 123
14:05 danmc               thanks
14:05 huginn`             magnuse: (quote get [<channel>] <id>) -- Gets the quote with id <id> from the quote database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
14:05 magnuse             @quote get #123
14:05 oleonard            I think that would be safe to say
14:04 danmc               would it be safe to say the vast majority use apache?
14:04 oleonard            danmc: There are always crazed users of some sort. Don't know about this particular category.
14:03 danmc               silly question... is koha exclusively used with apache or are there some (crazed) users who use it with a different httpd?
13:29 Brooke              modesty--
13:16 Brooke              eythian++
13:16 Brooke              magnuse++
13:16 Brooke              sekjal++
13:04 Brooke              0/
13:03 Brooke              hola
13:02 hilongo             hola conan  :)
13:02 magnuse             hola conan
13:00 conan               hello everysoul
12:35 magnuse             that #23 sure is a zinger
12:35 * Brooke            suspects context makes that humourous.
12:35 huginn`             gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #140 added.
12:35 gmcharlt            @quote add <oleonard> That's why I'm the only one with a flying car. I just didn't figure anyone else would be interested.
12:35 Brooke              heh
12:34 huginn`             gmcharlt: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
12:34 gmcharlt            @quote random
12:34 magnuse             kf: yeah, i think so
12:33 kf                  but none for saving, that correct?
12:33 kf                  I thought we already had a way to display?
12:33 magnuse             hehe
12:32 oleonard            That's why I'm the only one with a flying car. I just didn't figure anyone else would be interested.
12:32 oleonard            The most asked-for feature that no one has developed out in the open!
12:31 magnuse             how many implementations of local images do we have now? ;-)
12:31 magnuse             hiya americans
12:21 huginn`             New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6446] batch item deletion interface problems <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6446>
12:19 hilongo             Hi kf  :)
12:15 JesseM              Hi kf!!
12:15 sekjal              hi, kf!
12:15 kf                  hi hilongo, sekjal and all I forgot :)
12:14 kf                  hi Brooke, hi JesseM
12:12 Brooke              0/
12:02 hilongo             Good morning :)
12:01 Brooke              mornin
12:01 JesseM              G'Morning #Koha
11:59 oleonard            0_
11:57 Brooke              0/
11:47 * Brooke            shakes her fist at mibbit.
11:43 Brooke              kia ora
11:29 magnuse             works! ;-)
11:29 ll                  test
10:59 kf                  magnuse++
10:43 danmc               morning
10:34 magnuse             \o
10:33 druthb              o/
10:11 magnuse             semarie++
10:09 kf                  magnuse++
10:09 kf                  semarie++ :)
09:59 semarie             thanks
09:59 semarie             ok, upgrade successfully: koha version 3.04.01.000
09:56 magnuse             viktor.sarge++ # for posting his first enh bug ;-)
09:55 semarie             remove_unused_authorities.pl have not error (just theses warnings)
09:54 semarie             that it is ok...
09:54 magnuse             ps the path i gave for --prev-install-log was of course just an example
09:53 magnuse             hm, don't think i saw that
09:53 semarie             remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl said: "Use of uninitialized value $cn_class ..." a lot of time...
09:51 semarie             ok, I will try ! (I have already done a raw mysqldump, so no problem)
09:51 magnuse             5. finnished
09:51 magnuse             4. upgrade the database throught the web installer
09:50 magnuse             3. misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v
09:50 magnuse             2. remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl --run
09:50 magnuse             1. perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /home/julap/koha-dev/misc/koha-install-log; make; sudo make upgrade
09:50 magnuse             i did:
09:49 magnuse             let me check what i did
09:48 wahanui             rumour has it magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza
09:48 kf                  magnuse?
09:48 kf                  hm not sure
09:47 semarie             should a do the upgrade database first or after these ?
09:46 semarie             but a question about procedure order, concering remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl & rebuild_zebra.pl
09:46 semarie             Hi, I upgrade from 3.02.07 to 3.4.x
09:14 kf                  that could be difficult then yes
09:14 kf                  hm
09:13 vfernandes          the serials modules is configure to not add items for subscriptions
09:12 kf                  vfernandes: but you have items for them?
09:00 vfernandes          i think that i wiil have to develop a add-on for it
08:54 vfernandes          that's my problem :|
08:52 magnuse             hm, not sure how you would do that if you can't check them out!
08:50 vfernandes          how i can create statistics for the serials?
08:50 vfernandes          but i need one statistical patron for the serials too, but the serials doesn't have barcodes so a checkout can't be done
08:49 vfernandes          i have a statistical patron for the books that are consulting inside of the library
08:48 vfernandes          i'll start the day by asking one thing
08:47 magnuse             hi vfernandes
08:47 vfernandes          hi koha community :)
07:29 magnuse             glernil: ok, eythian is you man then ;-)
07:28 glernil             yup.. koha-common package
07:27 magnuse             glernil: are you using the packages?
07:27 magnuse             absolutely correct, kf
07:27 kf                  /s/hopest/hopes
07:27 * kf                hopest that was right
07:27 glernil             eythian: good day! Is it safe to modify the crontab manually in a koha instance? The crontab only contains the message_process_queue and i want to add several more as seen from the crontab.example file?
07:27 kf                  god dag magnuse
07:25 magnuse             guten tag kf
07:25 kf                  hi #koha
07:18 clrh                bonjour magnuse and all
07:18 magnuse             bonjour francharb and clrh
07:10 francharb           hello all
07:06 mtj                 lol s/fays/days/
07:06 mtj                 np, i have a few fays to sort it
07:05 magnuse             wish i could have helped you with that, but alas...
07:05 mtj                 and im trying to catch someone who has a running SIPserver, etc...
07:04 mtj                 im stuck on a weird SIPserverpm bug
07:04 mtj                 yep, good call :)
07:03 huginn`             magnuse: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 9 hours, 6 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> bugzilla?
07:03 magnuse             @seen wizzyrea
07:03 huginn`             magnuse: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit returns (1 more message)
07:03 magnuse             @last seen wizzyrea
07:03 magnuse             mtj: probably asleep at this hour?
07:02 mtj                 wizzyrea:  about?
06:43 cait                time to go to work
06:38 magnuse             hi cait
06:38 bg                  :)
06:38 hdl                 hi bg and cait (bg up late)
06:38 bg                  hey hdl
06:38 bg                  hey cait
06:38 cait                morning bg and hdl, hi bg :)
06:37 hdl                 hi magnuse
06:37 magnuse             bonjour hdl
06:35 bg                  heh
06:34 magnuse             i pictured you doing it by hand, desperate to reach some deadline or something ;-)
06:32 magnuse             hehe
06:32 bg                  ah it's cool I'm just staying awake to index after it - so watching a movie in the background
06:31 magnuse             that does not sound a like fun thing to do late at night...
06:31 magnuse             ouch
06:31 * bg                is linking bibs to auths - and man is it slow - too many records :)
06:30 bg                  yup
06:30 magnuse             another late night session?
06:30 magnuse             hi bg
06:29 bg                  :) hi magnuse
06:29 magnuse             beats me...
06:29 huginn`             magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (8:20 AM CEST on June 03, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
06:29 magnuse             @wunder boo
06:29 huginn`             bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 15.8�C (11:33 PM PDT on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady).  Wind Advisory in effect until 3 am PDT Friday... 
06:29 bg                  @wunder 93109
06:23 huginn`             magnuse: The operation succeeded.
06:23 magnuse             @later tell rangi when i visit http://www.library.org.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?tag=topread&q=topread i get "Error: Language 'nb' does not exist"
06:21 magnuse             rangi around?
05:14 huginn`             cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 14.0�C (7:00 AM CEST on June 03, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Falling).
05:14 cait                @wunder Konstanz
05:14 cait                we got some needed rain on the weekend, but I think it today will be warm
05:13 cait                summer is here now
05:11 jransom             bad weather forecasted so lots of inside and movies
05:11 jransom             its nothing a day or 2 of rest wont fix.
05:11 cait                get better
05:11 cait                oh :(
05:09 jransom             been nursing a cold for about 3 days so looking forward to 3 days off.
05:09 jransom             good - tired too.
05:02 cait                how are you?
05:02 cait                today is my last day at work for 2 weeks - library congress and 1 week vacation
05:02 cait                tired :)
04:57 jransom             how are you?
04:57 jransom             Caitlin babe!
04:56 cait                hi :)
04:56 mtj                 hiya cait
04:55 cait                hi #koha
04:03 ibeardslee          anyway I think I'll grab a beer and then lean back and listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ojt4aAw2PQ again
04:00 ibeardslee          plus 1/2 way between centuries
03:59 ibeardslee          I was aiming for the divisible by 10 thing
03:59 eythian             149 and 151 are both prime, which makes them better than some arbitrary 'divisible by 15' thing.
03:57 * Space_Librarian   wants to be 150... not sure how to work that...
03:57 * eythian           is moments away from having custom package deployment working, going to try to finisht that first.
03:57 rangi               hehe
03:57 ibeardslee          rangi: let me know when you get to 149
03:57 Space_Librarian     you do.
03:56 rangi               ohh i see a beer oclock email
03:56 rangi               145 ppl have code in koha now too
03:56 rangi               they are fun
03:56 rangi               stats
03:52 rangi               i was dropping the .po files out of the calcultion its 4865 different with them added in
03:52 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6350 trivial, P5, ---, nengard, NEW , Bug for tracking updates to the history file
03:52 jenkins_koha        Chris Cormack: Bug 6350 Adding Fridolyn Somers to the history
03:52 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #276: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/276/
03:52 rangi               663,065 lines added and 318,901 removed
03:51 rangi               4690 is how many files are different between koha and liblime ils
03:51 Soupermanito        can it do negative numbers?
03:51 rangi               heh
03:51 Brooke              tosser.
03:51 Brooke              e + pi
03:50 wahanui             318901
03:50 rangi               1884949 - 1566048
03:50 wahanui             663065
03:50 rangi               7185331 - 6522266
03:50 wahanui               4690
03:50 rangi               wahanui: 4865 - 175
03:32 jransom             heya
03:31 jransom             curtsies back
03:31 Space_Librarian     hello jransom and Amit_Gupta
03:31 * Brooke            tips her hat to jransom
03:31 jransom             good afternoon all
03:31 Brooke              morena
03:30 Amit_Gupta          good morning koha ;)
03:30 Amit_Gupta          heya chris
03:28 Space_Librarian     hahahaha
03:27 Brooke              Space_Librarian: druthb was last seen in Dupont Circle being harassed by a nerd.
03:27 Space_Librarian     tena koe Brooke still looking for shareholders in your company?
03:26 huginn`             Space_Librarian: druthb was last seen in #koha 5 minutes and 37 seconds ago: <druthb> i'm headed to bed... y'all have a good night.
03:26 Space_Librarian     @seen druthb
03:24 Brooke              kia ora
03:24 rangi               hi Brooke
03:20 rangi               cya
03:20 druthb              i'm headed to bed... y'all have a good night.
03:14 rangi               i autotune kahu quite a lot
03:14 rangi               you're out of luck then :)
03:13 rangi               ahh
03:13 druthb              rangi:  I don't; I have a Palm Pre Plus (WebOS)
03:10 jenkins_koha        Starting build 276 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:10 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6362 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , Fix MARC display in OPAC
03:10 jenkins_koha        * fridolyn.somers: BUG6436 Don't allow deletion of an itemtype used in items.itype
03:10 jenkins_koha        * ruth: Bug 6362: fixes display to re-embed items in OPAC MARC view
03:10 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #275: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/275/
03:08 Space_Librarian     there's an app. I must get.
03:04 rangi               micdroid is the app for it
03:04 rangi               you have an android phone druthb ?
02:55 rangi               :)
02:54 druthb              ooo...I could autotune my voice up to where I really want it...
02:50 rangi               i may do my next presentation, fully autotuned
02:50 Space_Librarian     o/
02:50 druthb              hi, rangi and Space_Librarian.  :)
02:48 rangi               friday!
02:48 rangi               http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgQ5BJTSv9U
02:47 Space_Librarian     I like that company. Does she need shareholders?
02:47 * Space_Librarian   laughs
02:47 * druthb            laughs evilly.
02:46 huginn`             druthb: Brooke was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 24 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: * Brooke thought over starting a firearms, liquor, & fireworks delivery company.
02:46 druthb              @seen Brooke
02:46 Space_Librarian     hey ruth!
02:46 ibeardslee          well better than mine
02:46 ibeardslee          ^^ that's the better way of reading it
02:45 Space_Librarian     i read it as "ko hails" the first few times
02:45 rangi               but it does read funny
02:44 rangi               so #kohails is what we came up with
02:44 rangi               #koha is used by an albanian newspaper
02:44 rangi               yep
02:42 ibeardslee          rangi: it may just be me .. but I keep seeing your #kohails tags as "Koh ails"
02:34 huginn`             New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6350 Adding Fridolyn Somers to the history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c9645b1f9f70541c7c9c5ee6d334ff15095740c>
02:27 jenkins_koha        Starting build 275 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:22 huginn`             New commit(s) kohagit: BUG6436 Don't allow deletion of an itemtype used in items.itype <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e8093b4fbcaa75a71134d621f6d328f13390d07> / Bug 6362: fixes display to re-embed items in OPAC MARC view <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=586a476ec4a62f47128d16dc77f2d1145e50a493>
01:49 rangi               pianohacker++
01:18 mtj                 fyi: the doco and examples in C4/SIP look pretty good :)
01:17 mtj                 before the 3m guy arrives
01:17 mtj                 pianohacker:  np - i just gotta prep a sipserver, thats tested to be working-ish
01:15 pianohacker         my limited experience with 3m hasn't been fantastic
01:15 pianohacker         mtj: I'm sorry
01:08 Oak                 :)
01:07 mtj                 yep, i really do i have a 3m guy arriving next week, for a self-checkout install :)
01:05 Oak                 uh oh, never mind, I guess I did not
01:05 mtj                 huh, understand what?
01:04 Oak                 funny guy
01:04 Oak                 mtj, ah, *now* I understand
01:02 mtj                 .. ill ask liz when i see her online
01:01 mtj                 i have a 3m guy arriving next week, for a self-checkout install
01:01 Oak                 wizzyrea, are you available?
01:00 Oak                 \o
01:00 mtj                 i think amit has too, and atz - of course
00:59 mtj                 heya bg , aaaa, ok thanks
00:59 bg                  mtj: I think NEKLS is using those
00:58 mtj                 hi all - a random Q... anyone about who has 3m self-checkout machine experience, with Koha?
00:38 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6350 trivial, P5, ---, nengard, NEW , Bug for tracking updates to the history file
00:38 huginn`             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6437 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Div tag needed in advsearch
00:38 jenkins_koha        * Chris Cormack: Bug 6350 - Keeping history page up to date
00:38 jenkins_koha        * Elliott Davis: Bug 6437: Added div with id yui-main around advsearch form
00:38 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #274: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/274/