Time Nick Message 00:38 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #274: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/274/ 00:38 jenkins_koha * Elliott Davis: Bug 6437: Added div with id yui-main around advsearch form 00:38 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6350 - Keeping history page up to date 00:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6437 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Div tag needed in advsearch 00:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6350 trivial, P5, ---, nengard, NEW , Bug for tracking updates to the history file 00:58 mtj hi all - a random Q... anyone about who has 3m self-checkout machine experience, with Koha? 00:59 bg mtj: I think NEKLS is using those 00:59 mtj heya bg , aaaa, ok thanks 01:00 mtj i think amit has too, and atz - of course 01:00 Oak \o 01:01 Oak wizzyrea, are you available? 01:01 mtj i have a 3m guy arriving next week, for a self-checkout install 01:02 mtj .. ill ask liz when i see her online 01:04 Oak mtj, ah, *now* I understand 01:04 Oak funny guy 01:05 mtj huh, understand what? 01:05 Oak uh oh, never mind, I guess I did not 01:07 mtj yep, i really do i have a 3m guy arriving next week, for a self-checkout install :) 01:08 Oak :) 01:15 pianohacker mtj: I'm sorry 01:15 pianohacker my limited experience with 3m hasn't been fantastic 01:17 mtj pianohacker: np - i just gotta prep a sipserver, thats tested to be working-ish 01:17 mtj before the 3m guy arrives 01:18 mtj fyi: the doco and examples in C4/SIP look pretty good :) 01:49 rangi pianohacker++ 02:22 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: BUG6436 Don't allow deletion of an itemtype used in items.itype <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e8093b4fbcaa75a71134d621f6d328f13390d07> / Bug 6362: fixes display to re-embed items in OPAC MARC view <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=586a476ec4a62f47128d16dc77f2d1145e50a493> 02:27 jenkins_koha Starting build 275 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:34 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6350 Adding Fridolyn Somers to the history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c9645b1f9f70541c7c9c5ee6d334ff15095740c> 02:42 ibeardslee rangi: it may just be me .. but I keep seeing your #kohails tags as "Koh ails" 02:44 rangi yep 02:44 rangi #koha is used by an albanian newspaper 02:44 rangi so #kohails is what we came up with 02:45 rangi but it does read funny 02:45 Space_Librarian i read it as "ko hails" the first few times 02:46 ibeardslee ^^ that's the better way of reading it 02:46 ibeardslee well better than mine 02:46 Space_Librarian hey ruth! 02:46 druthb @seen Brooke 02:46 huginn` druthb: Brooke was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 24 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: * Brooke thought over starting a firearms, liquor, & fireworks delivery company. 02:47 * druthb laughs evilly. 02:47 * Space_Librarian laughs 02:47 Space_Librarian I like that company. Does she need shareholders? 02:48 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgQ5BJTSv9U 02:48 rangi friday! 02:50 druthb hi, rangi and Space_Librarian. :) 02:50 Space_Librarian o/ 02:50 rangi i may do my next presentation, fully autotuned 02:54 druthb ooo...I could autotune my voice up to where I really want it... 02:55 rangi :) 03:04 rangi you have an android phone druthb ? 03:04 rangi micdroid is the app for it 03:08 Space_Librarian there's an app. I must get. 03:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #275: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/275/ 03:10 jenkins_koha * ruth: Bug 6362: fixes display to re-embed items in OPAC MARC view 03:10 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: BUG6436 Don't allow deletion of an itemtype used in items.itype 03:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6362 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , Fix MARC display in OPAC 03:10 jenkins_koha Starting build 276 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 03:13 druthb rangi: I don't; I have a Palm Pre Plus (WebOS) 03:13 rangi ahh 03:14 rangi you're out of luck then :) 03:14 rangi i autotune kahu quite a lot 03:20 druthb i'm headed to bed... y'all have a good night. 03:20 rangi cya 03:24 rangi hi Brooke 03:24 Brooke kia ora 03:26 Space_Librarian @seen druthb 03:26 huginn` Space_Librarian: druthb was last seen in #koha 5 minutes and 37 seconds ago: <druthb> i'm headed to bed... y'all have a good night. 03:27 Space_Librarian tena koe Brooke still looking for shareholders in your company? 03:27 Brooke Space_Librarian: druthb was last seen in Dupont Circle being harassed by a nerd. 03:28 Space_Librarian hahahaha 03:30 Amit_Gupta heya chris 03:30 Amit_Gupta good morning koha ;) 03:31 Brooke morena 03:31 jransom good afternoon all 03:31 * Brooke tips her hat to jransom 03:31 Space_Librarian hello jransom and Amit_Gupta 03:31 jransom curtsies back 03:32 jransom heya 03:50 rangi wahanui: 4865 - 175 03:50 wahanui 4690 03:50 rangi 7185331 - 6522266 03:50 wahanui 663065 03:50 rangi 1884949 - 1566048 03:50 wahanui 318901 03:51 Brooke e + pi 03:51 Brooke tosser. 03:51 rangi heh 03:51 Soupermanito can it do negative numbers? 03:51 rangi 4690 is how many files are different between koha and liblime ils 03:52 rangi 663,065 lines added and 318,901 removed 03:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #276: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/276/ 03:52 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 6350 Adding Fridolyn Somers to the history 03:52 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6350 trivial, P5, ---, nengard, NEW , Bug for tracking updates to the history file 03:52 rangi i was dropping the .po files out of the calcultion its 4865 different with them added in 03:56 rangi stats 03:56 rangi they are fun 03:56 rangi 145 ppl have code in koha now too 03:56 rangi ohh i see a beer oclock email 03:57 Space_Librarian you do. 03:57 ibeardslee rangi: let me know when you get to 149 03:57 rangi hehe 03:57 * eythian is moments away from having custom package deployment working, going to try to finisht that first. 03:57 * Space_Librarian wants to be 150... not sure how to work that... 03:59 eythian 149 and 151 are both prime, which makes them better than some arbitrary 'divisible by 15' thing. 03:59 ibeardslee I was aiming for the divisible by 10 thing 04:00 ibeardslee plus 1/2 way between centuries 04:03 ibeardslee anyway I think I'll grab a beer and then lean back and listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ojt4aAw2PQ again 04:55 cait hi #koha 04:56 mtj hiya cait 04:56 cait hi :) 04:57 jransom Caitlin babe! 04:57 jransom how are you? 05:02 cait tired :) 05:02 cait today is my last day at work for 2 weeks - library congress and 1 week vacation 05:02 cait how are you? 05:09 jransom good - tired too. 05:09 jransom been nursing a cold for about 3 days so looking forward to 3 days off. 05:11 cait oh :( 05:11 cait get better 05:11 jransom its nothing a day or 2 of rest wont fix. 05:11 jransom bad weather forecasted so lots of inside and movies 05:13 cait summer is here now 05:14 cait we got some needed rain on the weekend, but I think it today will be warm 05:14 cait @wunder Konstanz 05:14 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 14.0�C (7:00 AM CEST on June 03, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Falling). 06:21 magnuse rangi around? 06:23 magnuse @later tell rangi when i visit http://www.library.org.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?tag=topread&q=topread i get "Error: Language 'nb' does not exist" 06:23 huginn` magnuse: The operation succeeded. 06:29 bg @wunder 93109 06:29 huginn` bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 15.8�C (11:33 PM PDT on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect until 3 am PDT Friday... 06:29 magnuse @wunder boo 06:29 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (8:20 AM CEST on June 03, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 06:29 magnuse beats me... 06:29 bg :) hi magnuse 06:30 magnuse hi bg 06:30 magnuse another late night session? 06:30 bg yup 06:31 * bg is linking bibs to auths - and man is it slow - too many records :) 06:31 magnuse ouch 06:31 magnuse that does not sound a like fun thing to do late at night... 06:32 bg ah it's cool I'm just staying awake to index after it - so watching a movie in the background 06:32 magnuse hehe 06:34 magnuse i pictured you doing it by hand, desperate to reach some deadline or something ;-) 06:35 bg heh 06:37 magnuse bonjour hdl 06:37 hdl hi magnuse 06:38 cait morning bg and hdl, hi bg :) 06:38 bg hey cait 06:38 bg hey hdl 06:38 hdl hi bg and cait (bg up late) 06:38 bg :) 06:38 magnuse hi cait 06:43 cait time to go to work 07:02 mtj wizzyrea: about? 07:03 magnuse mtj: probably asleep at this hour? 07:03 magnuse @last seen wizzyrea 07:03 huginn` magnuse: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit returns (1 more message) 07:03 magnuse @seen wizzyrea 07:03 huginn` magnuse: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 9 hours, 6 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> bugzilla? 07:04 mtj yep, good call :) 07:04 mtj im stuck on a weird SIPserverpm bug 07:05 mtj and im trying to catch someone who has a running SIPserver, etc... 07:05 magnuse wish i could have helped you with that, but alas... 07:06 mtj np, i have a few fays to sort it 07:06 mtj lol s/fays/days/ 07:10 francharb hello all 07:18 magnuse bonjour francharb and clrh 07:18 clrh bonjour magnuse and all 07:25 kf hi #koha 07:25 magnuse guten tag kf 07:27 kf god dag magnuse 07:27 glernil eythian: good day! Is it safe to modify the crontab manually in a koha instance? The crontab only contains the message_process_queue and i want to add several more as seen from the crontab.example file? 07:27 * kf hopest that was right 07:27 kf /s/hopest/hopes 07:27 magnuse absolutely correct, kf 07:27 magnuse glernil: are you using the packages? 07:28 glernil yup.. koha-common package 07:29 magnuse glernil: ok, eythian is you man then ;-) 08:47 vfernandes hi koha community :) 08:47 magnuse hi vfernandes 08:48 vfernandes i'll start the day by asking one thing 08:49 vfernandes i have a statistical patron for the books that are consulting inside of the library 08:50 vfernandes but i need one statistical patron for the serials too, but the serials doesn't have barcodes so a checkout can't be done 08:50 vfernandes how i can create statistics for the serials? 08:52 magnuse hm, not sure how you would do that if you can't check them out! 08:54 vfernandes that's my problem :| 09:00 vfernandes i think that i wiil have to develop a add-on for it 09:12 kf vfernandes: but you have items for them? 09:13 vfernandes the serials modules is configure to not add items for subscriptions 09:14 kf hm 09:14 kf that could be difficult then yes 09:46 semarie Hi, I upgrade from 3.02.07 to 3.4.x 09:46 semarie but a question about procedure order, concering remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl & rebuild_zebra.pl 09:47 semarie should a do the upgrade database first or after these ? 09:48 kf hm not sure 09:48 kf magnuse? 09:48 wahanui rumour has it magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza 09:49 magnuse let me check what i did 09:50 magnuse i did: 09:50 magnuse 1. perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /home/julap/koha-dev/misc/koha-install-log; make; sudo make upgrade 09:50 magnuse 2. remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl --run 09:50 magnuse 3. misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v 09:51 magnuse 4. upgrade the database throught the web installer 09:51 magnuse 5. finnished 09:51 semarie ok, I will try ! (I have already done a raw mysqldump, so no problem) 09:53 semarie remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl said: "Use of uninitialized value $cn_class ..." a lot of time... 09:53 magnuse hm, don't think i saw that 09:54 magnuse ps the path i gave for --prev-install-log was of course just an example 09:54 semarie that it is ok... 09:55 semarie remove_unused_authorities.pl have not error (just theses warnings) 09:56 magnuse viktor.sarge++ # for posting his first enh bug ;-) 09:59 semarie ok, upgrade successfully: koha version 3.04.01.000 09:59 semarie thanks 10:09 kf semarie++ :) 10:09 kf magnuse++ 10:11 magnuse semarie++ 10:33 druthb o/ 10:34 magnuse \o 10:43 danmc morning 10:59 kf magnuse++ 11:29 ll test 11:29 magnuse works! ;-) 11:43 Brooke kia ora 11:47 * Brooke shakes her fist at mibbit. 11:57 Brooke 0/ 11:59 oleonard 0_ 12:01 JesseM G'Morning #Koha 12:01 Brooke mornin 12:02 hilongo Good morning :) 12:12 Brooke 0/ 12:14 kf hi Brooke, hi JesseM 12:15 kf hi hilongo, sekjal and all I forgot :) 12:15 sekjal hi, kf! 12:15 JesseM Hi kf!! 12:19 hilongo Hi kf :) 12:21 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6446] batch item deletion interface problems <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6446> 12:31 magnuse hiya americans 12:31 magnuse how many implementations of local images do we have now? ;-) 12:32 oleonard The most asked-for feature that no one has developed out in the open! 12:32 oleonard That's why I'm the only one with a flying car. I just didn't figure anyone else would be interested. 12:33 magnuse hehe 12:33 kf I thought we already had a way to display? 12:33 kf but none for saving, that correct? 12:34 magnuse kf: yeah, i think so 12:34 gmcharlt @quote random 12:34 huginn` gmcharlt: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) 12:35 Brooke heh 12:35 gmcharlt @quote add <oleonard> That's why I'm the only one with a flying car. I just didn't figure anyone else would be interested. 12:35 huginn` gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #140 added. 12:35 * Brooke suspects context makes that humourous. 12:35 magnuse that #23 sure is a zinger 13:00 conan hello everysoul 13:02 magnuse hola conan 13:02 hilongo hola conan :) 13:03 Brooke hola 13:04 Brooke 0/ 13:16 Brooke sekjal++ 13:16 Brooke magnuse++ 13:16 Brooke eythian++ 13:29 Brooke modesty-- 14:03 danmc silly question... is koha exclusively used with apache or are there some (crazed) users who use it with a different httpd? 14:04 oleonard danmc: There are always crazed users of some sort. Don't know about this particular category. 14:04 danmc would it be safe to say the vast majority use apache? 14:05 oleonard I think that would be safe to say 14:05 magnuse @quote get #123 14:05 huginn` magnuse: (quote get [<channel>] <id>) -- Gets the quote with id <id> from the quote database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. 14:05 danmc thanks 14:05 magnuse @quote get 123 14:05 huginn` magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 14:05 wizzyrea yes, that 14:06 magnuse i think catalyst have used nginx, but i'm not sure if they use it as a webserver or more for proxy/load balancing 14:15 conan what could mean a translation is in the po file but it's not in the UI? 14:15 conan I'm talking about a single line of text 14:18 danmc morning druthb 14:19 druthb o/ 14:30 magnuse conan: there could be errors in the .po file 14:30 magnuse i had a similar problem until kf told me to open and save the file in Poedit - that showed me two errors and when i fixed them things got a lot better... 14:34 conan magnuse: I have an error, was checking translate script because information is not enough 14:35 conan but can't find a way to get more info 14:35 conan I only got this line even with verbose on: 14:35 conan %E: Unknown or unsupported format specification 14:35 conan no line number, no nothing 14:36 conan I'll try poedit now 14:37 conan magnuse: you just open and save? no touching? 14:39 conan 13 errors, interesting, this is workking :) 14:41 magnuse conan: yeah, just open and save 14:45 conan magnuse: what now? I need to read about .po! got a message telling me : 14:45 conan number of format specifications in 'msgid' and 'msgstr' does not match 14:45 conan and what I guess is a line number 14:46 chris_n @later tell rangi I forwarded that email along to our head librarian, tnx 14:46 huginn` chris_n: The operation succeeded. 14:46 conan so I edit with vi the po file 14:46 conan and I see what looks like code: 14:46 conan #. %8$s: ELSE 14:46 magnuse conan: check that you have the same number of %s in the original and the translated 14:46 conan there's no msgid nor msgstr there 14:46 magnuse that was the problem for me, it had become "% s" a couple of places 14:47 magnuse check the strings around the line you got 14:47 magnuse i think my errors were above the reported line number 14:47 magnuse 2 or 3 lines above 14:49 conan magnuse: I have three lines, do the %s have to match on a line by line basis or the full total is what should be equal? 14:50 conan cause I have the same ammount of %s, but they are not distributed equally on the lines being translated 14:50 magnuse hm, not sure, i think it's the total that matters 14:51 pastebot "conan" at 190.220.130.20 pasted "learning to translate" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/74 14:51 magnuse and that there are no spaces or linebreaks between % and s 14:52 magnuse hm, sorry, can't see any problems there... 14:53 conan magnuse: is in the strings that follow the code-block looking snippet 14:53 conan I've found a % alone 14:53 conan that should be it... 14:54 magnuse could be 14:58 magnuse gotta run - good luck conan 15:19 conan is '%%' a correct string in po files? 15:40 cait hi #koha 15:40 nengard hiya 15:44 conan cait: hi 15:44 wahanui hey, conan 15:44 conan plop? 15:45 conan wahanui: not talking to you bot 15:45 wahanui conan: huh? 15:45 conan what are the steps to provide a fix for po files? 15:45 conan I'm not seeing bug numbers in commits that provide po files 15:45 conan fredericd: you around? 15:52 Oak \o 15:56 tcohen ouch: http://www.koha.org/ 15:56 wizzyrea oy, is there a command to strike a line from the log :( 15:56 wizzyrea we don't type that url here. 15:57 Oak hehe 15:57 Oak like the 'oy' 15:58 wizzyrea http://www.koha-community.org 15:58 wizzyrea just for balance 15:59 wizzyrea website? 15:59 wahanui website is back, bot will be a bit longer 15:59 wizzyrea forget website 15:59 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot website 15:59 wizzyrea website is http://www.koha-community.org 15:59 wizzyrea website? 15:59 wahanui website is http://www.koha-community.org 16:03 conan a template question: what if I want to make visual modifications to my installation of koha 16:04 conan should I reproduce a full 'en' subtree? 16:04 conan it seems overkill 16:04 conan what if I want to remove a column, for example? 16:06 clrh conan: from what I know, it is not possible to do it simply, you can't (I think) define a template for a website and configure it - we have this problem for clients who ask us specific template modification... 16:07 oleonard Theoretically it should be possible, but a lot of hardcoded paths to the prog template may still be around 16:07 clrh (I don't know if my english is clear enought...) 16:07 oleonard And yes, conan, you would have to reproduce the whole 'en' subtree 16:11 library_systems_guy MY FIRST PATCH GOT ACCEPTED :D 16:11 f3ew yay 16:11 library_systems_guy im pretty stoked 16:12 wizzyrea :) 16:12 wizzyrea now you can do a patch to the history file >.> 16:13 library_systems_guy w00t 16:13 library_systems_guy im officially part of something cool :) 16:13 wizzyrea @quote add library_systems_guy: w00t I'm officially part of something cool :) 16:13 huginn` wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #141 added. 16:14 wizzyrea @quote random 16:14 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #127: "Oracle now has little choice but to abandon its commercial ambitions for OOo because the growing momentum of the more inclusive LibreOffice fork is making OOo irrelevant" (added by wizzyrea at 07:10 PM, April 18, 2011) 16:14 wizzyrea ha 16:14 conan clrh: pretty clear, thanks 16:14 wizzyrea @quote random 16:14 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #103: "<cait>: Nobody can find you hiding in Search.pm ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 09:18 PM, November 13, 2010) 16:14 wizzyrea too true 16:14 conan library_systems_guy: congratulations :) 16:14 wizzyrea @quote random 16:14 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #72: "<nengard> it's evil xslt in the staff client" (added by jdavidb at 12:28 PM, April 29, 2010) 16:15 library_systems_guy thanks conan and wizzyrea 16:15 wizzyrea @quote random 16:15 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #106: "<jwagner> Bah, humbug" (added by druthb at 01:31 PM, November 29, 2010) 16:15 conan oleonard: so I can just touch the es-ES subtree, since it's not under git 16:16 oleonard Sorry conan I told you wrong 16:16 conan problem is I'll loose everything after the next 'translate install' 16:16 oleonard If you wanted to try this, you'd have to copy the whole "prog" directory under a new name 16:16 oleonard ...and then change the template name in system preferences 16:17 conan and the opacthemes too I guess 16:17 conan but how do I keep up later? when I try to merge new changes? 16:18 oleonard That's the trouble... there's no good workflow for that. That's why no one is doing it. 16:18 * wizzyrea has done it. Doesn't do it anymore for precisely that reason. 16:19 * oleonard 's search finds 82 instances of a hard-coded "/prog/" path in the templates 16:19 conan ah crap 16:19 conan I really need a customized installation 16:19 conan my boss is asking for that badly 16:19 oleonard On the other hand conan, if you just wanted to make a few changes you could try doing it in its own branch 16:20 oleonard and manage the merges in git. 16:20 conan oleonard: hum... but I fear a script could automatically blow stuff 16:20 conan like the translate script or another one I still don't know 16:21 conan is there a bug for this hard coded thingy? 16:21 oleonard No, but it sounds like that's the least of your problems. 16:22 conan I've found bug 2774 16:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places 16:22 oleonard I stand corrected. That's the one. 16:23 cait yeah,but you would have to reimplement every new featur in your new theme set, right? 16:23 cait sounds like a lot of work :( 16:23 cait conan: what is your boss asking for? 16:24 conan cait: he want me to hide some stuff, like prices (we don't use money here) and infants for example 16:24 cait a 16:24 cait ah 16:24 cait but hiding should not be too difficult 16:24 cait you can hide a lot of things easily using css or jquery 16:25 oleonard Or you could ignore the stuff that isn't relevant ;) 16:25 cait I think some of the things for infants are even hidden by a syspref 16:25 conan he even tinkered around in templates yesterday, but I think that's not the way to go, since we would make an ugly fork 16:25 cait the father/mother relationship thing 16:25 clrh have a good week end... 16:25 conan oleonard: not an option, I don't make the rules 16:26 conan with css I can hide IDed stuff 16:26 conan but if a column doesn't have an ID then is the same problem 16:26 wizzyrea (add one and submit a patch?) 16:26 wizzyrea (that's an ongoing effort) 16:27 conan I'll had to take a look at the work involved first, I'm running low on time, can't follow proper protocol for now 16:27 conan one last thing 16:27 conan the hard coded paths 16:27 conan why are they hard coded? 16:28 conan I mean 16:28 conan is just a matter of getting in and fixing that by pointing to some syspref already created? 16:28 conan or there are more complicated structural things going around? 16:29 oleonard You'll have to investigate conan. It could be that the correct variable isn't available to the template in some cases 16:30 oleonard I suspect it's fixable but hasn't been a priority to anyone 16:32 oleonard conan: If you do too much work not following the proper protocol you're setting yourself up for more pain when upgrade time comes 16:33 conan oleonard: I know, I'm fighting strongly to not do that 16:33 conan but I'm not the boss and he has some deadlines coming soon 17:11 adnc hello koha 17:13 cait hi adnc :) 17:14 adnc how is kohas debian package doing? 17:14 adnc ;) 17:19 Ropuch Evening #koha 17:29 cait hi Ropuch 17:35 Ropuch I'm pulling some data from utf8 database in perl script, but after printing them in terminal (system locale utf8) all I can see is a mess 17:37 Ropuch I hate encoding issues in perl/python ;/ 17:40 adnc ping rangi 17:40 oleonard-away 5:45 AM where he is adnc 18:55 rangi @later tell chris_n please look at bug 6452 (pushed to master) for 3.2.10 18:55 huginn` rangi: The operation succeeded. 19:01 rangi ohh so thats the strategy now is it, pretend koha is a fork ... classy 19:02 bg ? 19:02 oleonard-away One of "various" 19:03 rangi yeah 19:04 rangi should I link to the stats post and see if he goes mental again 19:04 rangi library_systems_guy: I added you to the history and about page 19:04 rangi Fridolyn too 19:04 wizzyrea that would be amusing 19:05 chris_n rangi: 6452 ? 19:05 rangi hmm maybe bug 6542 19:05 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6542 was not found. 19:05 rangi nope bug 6452 19:05 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6452 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Missing SQL placeholders 19:06 rangi yah that one 19:06 chris_n and it has been pushed to master? 19:06 rangi pushed to master just now 19:06 * chris_n wonders if git is slow today :) 19:07 chris_n still don't see it 19:07 rangi hmmm 19:08 chris_n on git.koha... or in my just fetched reop 19:08 chris_n repo, even 19:08 cait I only see the branch, butnot on master 19:09 chris_n time to get pushy ;-) 19:09 cait and hi rangi and chris_n 19:09 chris_n heya cait 19:10 rangi try now 19:10 rangi hi all 19:10 chris_n yup 19:11 chris_n got them, tnx 19:12 jenkins_koha Starting build 277 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:12 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6452: Use placeholders in sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b3c9e3ef975c72fb025930d58358d3564cb0aac> / Bug 6452 : Use placeholders in sql but makepayment seems dead code ? <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4475e9a67574c32cd01b47bf6f22aeb3cc0eb648> 19:13 wizzyrea oleonard with the smackdown 19:14 oleonard If only it would have an effect. 19:14 rangi hopefully users might take notice 19:15 oleonard I notice they also took out the list of translations. Presumably because they don't give a crap about anyone outside of their market. 19:15 wizzyrea supposedly "unmaintainable" 19:16 cait I have no problem with that 19:16 oleonard Of course it's unmaintainable. You have to have actual contributors to maintain translations. 19:16 cait yep 19:17 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-06-03#i_685127 19:18 rangi if anyone tries to say its koha, the facts beg to differ 19:19 rhcl you guys are really mean 19:21 wizzyrea a predatory company tricks people into believing their software is something it isn't, and *we* are the mean ones? 19:21 rangi are u trolling rhcl? 19:21 wizzyrea righteously indignant, possibly. 19:24 sekjal rss feed for new commits? 19:24 rangi trolling-- 19:24 rangi on gitweb sekjal 19:25 sekjal got it 19:27 jenkins_koha Starting build 5 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:34 wizzyrea sekjal++ 19:34 Brooke 0/ 19:47 adnc cait weisst du was aus 3.4 für debian geworden ist 19:48 cait Ich weiss es nicht genau - frag doch rangi 19:48 adnc rangi 19:48 adnc hello, any news to koha debian 3.4 19:49 rangi pushed another patch to do with it 19:49 rangi eythian is who u need to ask not me 19:50 adnc ohh 19:50 adnc eythian ping 19:51 cait eythian is a bit hard to catch for us Europeans :) 19:51 Brooke it is Saturday 19:52 Brooke man's got to have his beer sometime. 19:53 adnc uyy 19:53 sekjal beer? 19:53 wahanui rumour has it beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy 19:53 rangi they invited this thing 19:53 cait ? 19:53 rangi called email 19:53 rangi :) 19:53 cait ah 19:53 cait invented 19:53 rangi yes 19:54 rangi autocorrect fail 19:54 Brooke dyac! 19:54 rangi linda++ 19:55 Brooke indeed! 19:55 Brooke linda++ 19:55 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6453] The "Compare barcodes list to results" functionnality of inventory.pl can't find barcodes <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6453> 19:55 Brooke go you patch writin' people :D 19:55 rangi cait ill upload a photo 19:55 rangi shows why im using my phone 19:57 rangi check my flickr 19:58 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui 19:59 cait :) 20:01 rangi brb gotta feed the natives 20:02 * Brooke perks up at the offer of venison stew. 20:09 Brooke http://ifrt.blogspot.com/2011/05/pirate-party-and-annual-conference.html 20:19 Brooke 0/ 20:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #277: SUCCESS in 1 h 11 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/277/ 20:23 jenkins_koha * semarie-koha: Bug 6452 : Use placeholders in sql but makepayment seems dead code ? 20:23 jenkins_koha * semarie-koha: Bug 6452: Use placeholders in sql 20:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6452 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Missing SQL placeholders 20:27 Brooke 0/ 20:27 rangi right cornflaked and bananaed 20:28 cait semarie++ 20:29 rangi haven't heard anything back from the russians yet 20:29 wizzyrea and yet their site claims we haven't responded in over 90 days 20:30 wizzyrea (along with everyone else they report security claims for) 20:30 rangi but Sébastien has found some issues that we are fixing 20:30 wizzyrea ^^ that is good though 20:30 rangi yep 20:30 wizzyrea maybe he'll find the one they did ^.^ 20:31 rangi :) 20:32 rangi once the kids are asleep tonight ill work on some fixes 20:32 rangi nothing too major but definitely issues 20:34 rangi semarie++ 20:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #5: SUCCESS in 1 h 8 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/5/ 20:36 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 6429: Sync history/about 20:36 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 6429: Sync history/about 20:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6429 : Fixing numbering of developers 20:36 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Add unit tests to ensure bug 5683 doesn't reappear 20:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6429 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Updating development team in about 20:36 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 5683 follow-up: calls to ModBiblio can still fail 20:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Fixing permissions, no need for this file to be executable 20:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5918 : Use the default messaging preferences if the user does not select any 20:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6350 - Keeping history page up to date 20:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5683 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, REOPENED , link_bibs_to_authorities.pl can corrupt records 20:36 jenkins_koha * ruth: Bug 6362: fixes display to re-embed items in OPAC MARC view 20:36 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: BUG6436 Don't allow deletion of an itemtype used in items.itype 20:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5918 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , When AddPatronLists is set to "general" and EnhancedMessagingPreferences is set, messaging prefs not copied from defaults 20:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6350 Adding Fridolyn Somers to the history 20:36 jenkins_koha * semarie-koha: Bug 6452 : Use placeholders in sql but makepayment seems dead code ? 20:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6350 trivial, P5, ---, nengard, NEW , Bug for tracking updates to the history file 20:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6362 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , Fix MARC display in OPAC 20:36 jenkins_koha * semarie-koha: Bug 6452: Use placeholders in sql 20:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6452 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Missing SQL placeholders 20:39 wizzyrea what table is 952$f stored in? 20:40 wizzyrea table/field 20:40 cait what is the description? 20:40 wizzyrea (coded location qualifier) 20:40 cait ah 20:40 cait nowhere 20:40 wizzyrea ?! 20:40 cait so probably goes in moresubfieldsxml 20:40 cait mtj had a bug for that I think 20:40 cait all items fields that arenot mapped go into the xml field 20:41 rangi yep 20:41 wizzyrea cait++ thanks 20:42 cait :) 20:43 sekjal okay, have a good weekend, #koha! time to get a little rest... 21:00 pianohacker hola 21:00 wahanui hola, pianohacker 21:01 cait hi pianohacker 21:01 pianohacker hi cait 21:02 rangi Hi pianohacker 21:02 pianohacker hey chris 21:03 pianohacker less stressed today, won't try to throw git-bz out the window again :) 21:04 rangi have u done much python? 21:04 pianohacker not recently as much, but I've done a fair amount 21:04 rangi it should be any easy change and call put it in the gitorious repo 21:04 pianohacker love the language, especially in comparison to perl 21:04 pianohacker ah, right 21:05 rangi and send it upstream too of course :) 21:05 pianohacker of course 21:20 rangi hmmm 21:21 rangi matariki starts too 21:21 rangi http://www.matarikifestival.org.nz/ 21:21 rangi time to plant kumara :) 21:21 wizzyrea :D 21:29 ketchup and tomatoes to make homemade ketchup 21:29 ketchup is it safe now? 21:30 wizzyrea depends on your definition of 'safe' 21:30 wizzyrea ;) 21:39 rangi bug 6454 21:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6454 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Searching by callnumber uses callnum,wrdl not callnum,phr 21:39 rangi yay!! 21:39 rangi libraries_reporting_bugs_and_attempting_to_fix_them_too++ 21:40 cait :) 21:41 rangi sekjal++ #patches passed qa 21:42 wizzyrea niiice 21:45 rangi http://www.wakaama.co.nz/racecalendar/lookup.php?regatta_uid=1000-0000790 21:49 cait small_suitcase-- 21:49 rangi hehe 21:50 cait hmpf! 21:50 Brooke kia ora 21:51 rangi heya Brooke 21:51 Brooke :) 21:53 cait will worry about it in the morning 21:53 cait good night all 21:53 Brooke cheers 22:10 rhcl so what say we wrote a few little py and php scripts for a project, and they are pretty simple w/ less than 50 lines in each. How much mass do you need before you attach a license to it (either the individual scripts or the project?) 22:11 pianohacker I'd say ~250 as a rough guideline 22:12 rangi as soon as u want to release it 22:12 pianohacker wouldn't the best guideline be "if I care what people do with this, it's time to attach a license" 22:12 rangi yeah 22:12 rangi I want to release it, so I better license it 22:12 rhcl This is semi-web based, I guess I need to look at the agpl. 22:13 rangi gpl3 is my default 22:13 rhcl I thought you were one of the AGPL advocates? 22:14 rangi agpl3 yep 22:14 rangi where it makes sense 22:16 rangi lots of the things I write are commandline driven gpl3 works just fine for that 22:17 rhcl This is our children's computer project. aogle has done some really good work with it. 22:18 rangi excellent 22:19 rangi ull have to look into what license the stuff you are building on is 22:19 rangi and how linked etx 22:19 rangi etc even 22:20 rangi (if there are links) 22:21 rhcl the games are all local executables and not really part of the project per se, but they are all currently listed in a MySql db for various reasons. He has the scripts and some server-side HTML code to generate the interface. 22:21 rangi ahh prolly safe to license that anyway u want then 22:21 rhcl There are outside links to sites like pbs kids 22:21 rangi *nod* 22:22 rangi its links in the code, like static linked libraries, sounds like nothing like that to worry about 22:22 rhcl yea, so I was thinking 22:23 rangi be something Ill want to play with too :) 22:23 rhcl I have this notion that there should be a complete suite of complimentary library systems, like Koha, DSpace, Libki and a children's computer 22:23 rangi I have 2 testers 22:23 rangi put in status.net and mahara too 22:23 rangi and that would rule 22:24 rangi so u can give all ur users a eporfolio 22:24 rangi portfolio even 22:24 rhcl first I've heard of it 22:24 rangi mahara? 22:25 rhcl yea 22:25 rangi mahara.org 22:26 rhcl yea, I'm looking at it now 22:27 rangi I know in nz 22:27 rangi public libraries get used a lot by jobseekers 22:28 rangi mahara let's them build a resume and have different 'views' for different audiences, which they can print etc 22:28 rhcl I'll check it out. 22:29 rhcl OK, Friday's over, time for chow. Later everybody... 22:34 pianohacker does anyone know of any wiki software that has well integrated ldap/sso? 22:36 pianohacker rangi: this mahara software looks _perfectly_ designed for an academic environment 22:36 Brooke that's what it's meant for ;) 22:36 Brooke moodle + mahara = cool beans for Uni 22:37 * Brooke shivers at the thought of anitsirk meeting up with Linda Smith. 22:38 Brooke http://cterport.ed.uiuc.edu/Plone/technologies_folder/mahara-tutorials 22:38 Brooke <3 mah alma mater. <3 it. 22:39 rangi nz kids can get a portfolio at myportfolio 22:39 rangi follows them from kindegarten to uni 22:40 Brooke that's awesome 22:45 rangi but no reason a library can't offer the same for its community 22:45 rangi you can export and put ur data in another mahara of course 22:59 Brooke a yep 23:02 pianohacker bye all, concert time 23:02 rangi Cya 23:05 Brooke dinnah :D