Time  Nick                  Message
23:56 jenkins_koha          Starting build 274 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:56 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6380 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Z39.50 Cataloging Search needs a way to try search again, even if results are found
23:56 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6361 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Packages need support for the 3.4 upgrade
23:56 jenkins_koha          * Liz Rea: Bug 6380 - Z39.50 Cataloging Search needs a way to try search again, even if results are found
23:56 jenkins_koha          * Robin Sheat: Bug 6361 - make the packages work with koha 3.4
23:56 jenkins_koha          Project Koha_master build #273: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/273/
23:37 rangi                 yup
23:37 ibeardslee            a big difference to the manufactured music of today
23:37 rangi                 ibeardslee: its true
23:37 huginn`               New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6350 - Keeping history page up to date <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0a1165a2c3e32fb8e2b1ac48793f6d34c54cb2b>
23:37 ibeardslee            there is something so special about the music from the people of the 60s
23:32 pianohacker           robbie robertson's music sounds interesting, but man has he not aged well, poor fellow
23:30 rangi                 cool
23:30 ibeardslee            rangi: I think I have a copy of that at home
23:26 huginn`               New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6437: Added div with id yui-main around advsearch form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a2bf32ba29aaa19fddec201c5b3ef25a83af773>
23:19 rangi                 http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=7a2bf32ba29aaa19fddec201c5b3ef25a83af773
23:19 rangi                 library_systems_guy: you about?
23:14 huginn`               New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6380 - Z39.50 Cataloging Search needs a way to try search again, even if results... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d816d6fc5be11529f712c9dffb2d59d202d28ea4> / Bug 6361 - make the packages work with koha 3.4 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c779f2b38048d25f4ed553b2742713f0ec0b4d9e>
23:14 rangi                 ibeardslee: http://grooveshark.com/#/album/Contact+From+The+Underworld+Of+Redboy/2364822
23:13 jenkins_koha          Starting build 273 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:12 * rangi               steals some very simple little patches out of sekjals queue
22:52 pianohacker           PhD theses, etc. Yeah, I can imagine
22:49 rangi                 theres whole degrees in merge strategies ;-)
22:49 rangi                 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merge_(revision_control)#Three-way_merge
22:47 rangi                 you can set up all sorts of merge strategies
22:47 rangi                 http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-merge.html
22:46 rangi                 well its more complex than that
22:44 rangi                 :)
22:44 pianohacker           a paragraph like that in the man page would be muy helpful, I might have to send in a patch
22:43 rangi                 vs just applying the diffs
22:43 pianohacker           and now the name makes sense, thank you
22:43 rangi                 so merging three things together
22:43 rangi                 and merges both together on top of that
22:42 rangi                 goes back to the base commit (where they diverged)
22:42 rangi                 ah
22:41 pianohacker           just didn't know what a 3-way merge was
22:41 pianohacker           right, that kind of makes sense
22:41 rangi                 -u we want too
22:41 rangi                 -3, --3way When the patch does not apply cleanly, fall back on 3-way merge if the patch records the identity of blobs it is supposed to apply to and we have those blobs available locally.
22:40 pianohacker           would also be nice if the git documentation gave more info on what -3 did, but, well, git documentation :)
22:40 rangi                 etc
22:40 rangi                 to sign off
22:40 rangi                 you could do -s too
22:40 rangi                 would make sense to me
22:40 rangi                 so git bz appply -3 4222
22:39 pianohacker           for certain workflows, yes
22:39 rangi                 because arguably applying only clean is a desired behaviour
22:39 rangi                 youd need to make it a switch
22:39 rangi                 its only going apply ones that apply clean
22:38 rangi                 yes we arent telling it to try and merge a unclean patch anyway
22:38 pianohacker           rangi: Alright, so I need to modify git-bz to do something halfway useful. Thanks
22:38 cait                  normally I do a git status to check for the files I have to work on, but it showed none and didn't complete
22:38 rangi                 thats what we normally do
22:38 pastebot              "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "git am -3 attachment.cgi\?id=2" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/73
22:38 cait                  I ran into that too
22:38 pianohacker           okay, that makes sense
22:37 rangi                 its doing exactly that
22:37 pastebot              "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "git am attachment.cgi\?id=2739" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/72
22:36 rangi                 yes its doing a git am
22:34 pianohacker           there's a .git/rebase-apply directory, so it thinks it's in the middle of _something_; I'm just not sure what the expected workflow is
22:34 pastebot              "pianohacker" at 67.177.235.113 pasted "rangi: here's what it's doing" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/71
22:33 rangi                 it may be that git-bz is not giving git am the right switches
22:33 pianohacker           That was my understanding, but it appears to be doing absolutely nothing; I'll post a pastebin
22:32 rangi                 pianohacker: git am will do conflict markers if there is a conflict
22:31 pianohacker           something like git-rebase where it tries to apply the patch and shows conflict markers where it can't would be lovely; git-am seems to try to apply the patch and simply goes 'meh' if it can't, which is frustrating
22:30 pianohacker           rangi: Is there an efficient way to use git bz apply for patches you need to fix merge conflicts on? What it seems to be doing makes no sense whatsoever
22:22 rangi                 hilongo: good plan
22:22 rangi                 isnt chris_n in NC ?
21:58 hilongo               Ok .. will be filing it tomorrow and I'll try to see what happens with the tables in th DB when creating and editing
21:56 wahanui               bugzilla is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org
21:56 wizzyrea              bugzilla?
21:56 wizzyrea              yup sounds like a bug, file one
21:56 hilongo               nope ... I didn't add any matchpoint .. just changed the score for title
21:55 wizzyrea              or everything except title/isbn is broken
21:55 wizzyrea              so it's the 3rd factor that breaks it?
21:55 hilongo               but if I edit the rule ... say, to change the scores or the description ... it's bye bye ... no longer works ...
21:53 hilongo               ... seems to be
21:53 wizzyrea              so it's just the control number that's borked
21:53 hilongo               yep ... title/isbn worked
21:51 hilongo               will test the title/isbn thin ...
21:51 cait                  some work on the interface by owen I think, but can't remember anything else
21:51 pianohacker           time_zones--
21:51 pianohacker           hola spacelib
21:50 Space_Librarian       morning #koha TGIF
21:50 rangi                 afaik nothing changed with match points for 3.4.x but i could be wrong
21:50 wizzyrea              so title/isbn, does that work?
21:50 wizzyrea              does it work?
21:50 hilongo               We used the feature in 3.2 ... and is working ok ...
21:50 wizzyrea              ah, if you do two match points, but leave off the control number as one?
21:50 cait                  ouch
21:49 hilongo               by the way .. If I create a rule to match the 001 field ... using index Control-number ... it doesn't work, even from scratch
21:49 cait                  hm, never tried to use more than one - so no idea if it used to work
21:49 rangi                 might have to file a new one
21:48 hilongo               yep ... searched 'matching rules' but it yields three bugs non related to this
21:48 rangi                 sounds like a bug to me, have you checked bugs.koha-community.org ?
21:48 hilongo               BUT .. If I edit it ... by adding another Matchpoin ... or anything ...it no longer works
21:47 hilongo               If I create a rule from scratch.... using the Title alone ... it works
21:47 rangi                 cait: yep he has :)
21:47 rangi                 ?
21:47 rangi                 you are importing via the web interface eh? staged marc records
21:46 cait                  how have you set up your matching points?
21:46 hilongo               here is the thing ...
21:46 cait                  ok
21:46 cait                  after importing the first 10 - can you search for them?
21:46 hilongo               If I search the catalogue by title I find the books, and the same if I search using the 'control number' field 001
21:46 cait                  have you rebuild your index?
21:46 cait                  on which step are you stuck?
21:46 hilongo               I have 10 records in my catalogue ... I have set up a matching rule with 3 matching points (title, control number and ISBN) I reimport the same 10 records and I get ' no match' for all of them  :()
21:46 cait                  what exactly does not work?
21:45 hilongo               I'm testing Record matching rules in 3.4 and they don't seem to work ... anyone knows something about it?
21:45 hilongo               Hello again .. I asked this already, but maybe now there is someone who an help me
21:09 library_systems_guy   is it hard to turn a regular sql report into a "canned report"?  if that makes sense
20:57 wizzyrea              it may not be the same for you :/
20:56 wizzyrea              well, that's what happens in koha
20:55 skushner              rats
20:55 skushner              ok, because we thought it was no....we've been putting them back on hold and bumping them up....
20:54 wizzyrea              yes
20:53 skushner              When item hold transfer to branch is on hold for patron, and another branch checks in the same title coincidentally...does another HOLD SLIP get created for the original patron..???
20:52 wizzyrea              go for it
20:52 skushner              Wizzy, one more question about "coincidence of timing" and holds, please....
20:23 wizzyrea              not so much anymore
20:23 wizzyrea              also dry
20:23 wizzyrea              ah yea. I grew up in the county south of that
20:22 skushner              Yeah...my sister lived in a dry county, in Salina, i think...
20:22 * Brooke              thought over starting a firearms, liquor, & fireworks delivery company.
20:21 Brooke                you can get beer delivered to your doorstep
20:21 Brooke                move to the Great Commonwealth
20:21 Brooke                no wai
20:21 wizzyrea              kansas has bizarre liquor laws, better just come do it in person ;)
20:20 picklesmcgee          that's what i was afraid of :{ (funny tomato comment, just signed up yesterday for the tomato battle in co) thanks
20:20 skushner              beer then? how do you send a virtual beer to kansas...?
20:18 Brooke                debian is the distro most devs use, and that's all I'ma say before someone hucks a tomatoe at me
20:18 rangi                 if you do bsd ull most likely have to figure it out urself
20:18 * wizzyrea            doesn't require chocolate
20:18 rangi                 if it happened on receipt the feature could probably go into koha
20:18 Brooke                just puttin' that out there
20:18 picklesmcgee          Hi folks, extreme koha newb. given the task of building a koha server, any advice for finding info on koha on freebsd? I've only found one tut so far, and most everythign else says ewww go to debian
20:18 Brooke                nothing says thanks like chocolate
20:17 wizzyrea              :)
20:17 wizzyrea              you are welcome :
20:17 skushner              It can probably be adjusted. I'll have to think about it....it wasn't ME, by the way...but now I now why these things are disappearing..so, thanks, wizzyrea ++
20:16 Brooke                spank whoever thought that up.
20:16 Brooke                now that's bad.
20:16 Brooke                ewww
20:16 wizzyrea              oh that makes it even wors
20:16 skushner              It's not integrated. It does a pick list from the day before...not realtime
20:16 wizzyrea              yea, that really seems like poor design to call when the transfer starts :/
20:15 rangi                 Brooke: not in koha, that phone thing isn't a koha feature
20:15 rangi                 may not arrive
20:14 rangi                 because there are many reasons why somerhing marked for transfer
20:14 Brooke                rangi: realise. :) Happens like every system I've ever put my grubby paws on.
20:14 rangi                 well the main problem here is the phone call is triggered to soon
20:14 Brooke                but prodding things that work great nearly all the time is not necessarily wise.
20:13 * Brooke              thinks it could be managed mo' better, but us devious librarians have to 'splain it right.
20:13 rangi                 what she said
20:12 wizzyrea              and locked
20:12 wizzyrea              it's ready
20:12 wizzyrea              cuz when it's waiting
20:12 wizzyrea              not when it's sent
20:12 rangi                 its soluble, but you'd have to spec how you want it to work and get the dev done
20:12 wizzyrea              is trigger the call when it's arrived
20:12 wizzyrea              what your phone should do
20:12 wizzyrea              it's a cost of doing business
20:12 wizzyrea              we see that too, on very popular high traffic/multiple copy bibs
20:11 wizzyrea              yea, I'm pretty sure that's what you're seeing there
20:11 skushner              ok. thanks for straightening that out. At least I understand it now. Yes, they are popular...
20:11 wizzyrea              with heavy circ traffic and lots of copies?
20:11 wizzyrea              i'm assuming these are super popular titles?
20:10 wizzyrea              yep, it does
20:10 rangi                 hence syspref
20:10 skushner              But does the other item then that coincidentally got checked out at the same time, go to the 1st person on the list? I guess it does..
20:10 rangi                 yep
20:10 wizzyrea              which has it's own difficulties
20:10 Brooke                aye
20:10 wizzyrea              this item -> this patron
20:10 rangi                 yep
20:10 wizzyrea              well it basically becomes an itemlevel hold at that point
20:10 rangi                 but would need to be a syspref
20:09 rangi                 to anyone else
20:09 wizzyrea              i'm not sure it would be a bad thing to make it lock
20:09 rangi                 ie refuse to let it be issued
20:09 rangi                 you could make it lock
20:09 wizzyrea              sorry >.>
20:09 skushner              I knew you were going to say that's not how it works..
20:08 wizzyrea              no mention of who it's for in branchtransfers
20:08 wizzyrea              nope, it's not
20:07 skushner              Shouldn't the Holds transfer be locked into the person the item was transferred for..?
20:06 skushner              I'm confused...
20:06 skushner              But the problem is that the hold phone call is triggered during transfer of item to branch. Patron gets called to pick up hold at branch. When they go to pick up item, it's no longer there. It on to next person, and item from other branch is for person..????
20:03 Brooke                I concur, and I'm a picky thing with reserves.
20:03 skushner              hmmm..title level holds problem, i see. thanks. that's interesting.
20:03 wizzyrea              there's nothing programmatically to be done about that, imo
20:01 wizzyrea              it goes to #2 on the list
20:01 wizzyrea              so when B checks it in
20:01 wizzyrea              but before library B has picked/processed the item
20:01 wizzyrea              a copy of twilight will pass a scanner gun in library A while still on the pick list for library B
20:01 wizzyrea              i mean that it's a coincidence that on, say, a very popular title
20:00 skushner              What do you mean, "conincidence of timing"? please 'splain..
20:00 skushner              This happens sometimes, arbitrarily
20:00 wizzyrea              yep, every time I've seen that it's been a coincidence of timing
20:00 skushner              Yes, Hold from mid tranferred to Bay, when checked in at Bay, Hold goes to 2nd person on Hold, not the first
20:00 wizzyrea              where the hold is filled by another branch before the library with the item on the list gets to processing the hold
19:59 oleonard              You mean when it's checked in there's no hold message anymore?
19:59 wizzyrea              only in conincidence of timing circumstances
19:59 oleonard              Can you elaborate skushner?
19:58 skushner              Does anyone ever lose a hold that's transferred to a branch, when checked in at the branch?
19:58 Brooke                like that programme that was all like "yo! Missing a curly bracket there tough guy!"
19:58 oleonard              ?
19:57 Brooke                I wish there were a colour doo dad thinger
19:57 library_systems_guy   unless anyone here is blonde...then im totally sorry :'(
19:57 wizzyrea              ah yea that'd do it
19:57 * Brooke              has the retard market cornered!
19:57 library_systems_guy   lol well...i had a blonde moment then?
19:57 wizzyrea              unlikely ;)
19:57 library_systems_guy   missed a '
19:57 library_systems_guy   wait...im retarded
19:56 library_systems_guy   hmm
19:56 oleonard              Works for me as a report in Koha
19:56 library_systems_guy   if that helps
19:56 wizzyrea              yea totally works on my db from mysql... sec
19:56 library_systems_guy   the error is: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /home/koha/kohaclone/reports/guided_reports.pl line 614.
19:55 library_systems_guy   and gives back one result
19:55 library_systems_guy   yes ma'am
19:55 wizzyrea              and it runs from the mysql client?
19:55 library_systems_guy   indeed
19:55 wizzyrea              huh  odd.
19:54 library_systems_guy   select * from branchtransfers where frombranch = 'TEX' and datearrived is NULL
19:54 library_systems_guy   the only thing i changed from yours is i actutally inserted the branchcode
19:54 skushner              the holds queue...
19:54 skushner              Sometimes when they are "received" they go to the next person in the queue when checked in at the branch, has anyone had that problem?
19:54 wizzyrea              paste in your report
19:53 library_systems_guy   something about a null array reference
19:53 library_systems_guy   no space and no semicolon
19:53 wizzyrea              but not received yet
19:53 wizzyrea              because they have been sent
19:53 skushner              datearrived=null (because they are waiting)?
19:53 library_systems_guy   ...
19:53 wizzyrea              and no semicolon at the end
19:53 wizzyrea              is there a space at the beginning?
19:52 library_systems_guy   i copied the report into mysql and it ran...copied the report into the report bit and it gives me an error when i download it
19:51 library_systems_guy   sorry...my client quit scrolling -_-
19:51 * library_systems_guy is confused
19:50 hilongo               If I search the catalogue by title I find the books, and the same if I search using the 'cotrol number' field 001
19:49 hilongo               I have 10 records in my catalogue ... I have set up a matching rule with 3 matching points (title, control number and ISBN) I reimport the same 10 records and I get ' no match' for all of them  :()
19:47 wizzyrea              hilongo: how exactly are they not working?
19:46 wizzyrea              sigh
19:46 wizzyrea              I mean
19:46 wizzyrea              er no it won't
19:46 wizzyrea              ah yea, library_systems_guy that will get you the wrongtransfers too, just fyi
19:46 hilongo               I'm testing Record matching rules in 3.4 and they don't seem to work ... anyone knows something about it?
19:45 wizzyrea              nope
19:45 rhcl                  wizzyrea et al: member of Lyrasis??
19:45 * wizzyrea            wonders about wrongtransfers
19:44 wizzyrea              in theory a completed transfer should never have a null datearrived
19:44 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6450] No check in/check out messages in message_queue <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6450>
19:44 hilongo               hello there  :9
19:43 wizzyrea              yup
19:43 library_systems_guy   right but joins shall fix that
19:43 wizzyrea              of course that doesn't get you titles/barcodes of stuff
19:43 wizzyrea              select * from branchtransfers where frombranch = 'yourbranch' and datearrived is NULL;
19:42 rangi                 bbiab
19:42 library_systems_guy   ok bye rangi
19:42 wizzyrea              something like
19:42 rangi                 to arrive
19:42 rangi                 i gotta catch my bus, but transfers to receive will show you all the ones waiting
19:41 library_systems_guy   so can i get that data with a query?
19:41 library_systems_guy   hehe
19:41 rangi                 some just hide it better
19:41 rangi                 everyone is
19:41 wizzyrea              don't stress :) it'll be ok
19:41 * library_systems_guy has no library degree and is a newb in this field :'(
19:40 library_systems_guy   well my boss asked me about it...i honestly have no idea what either of them mean really
19:40 library_systems_guy   lol
19:40 wizzyrea              nm
19:40 wizzyrea              oh happy jumping and squealing
19:40 wizzyrea              noooooo
19:40 * library_systems_guy squeels
19:40 rangi                 well you can just do a sql report for that
19:40 wizzyrea              !!
19:40 * druthb              jumps.
19:39 wizzyrea              AHA
19:39 library_systems_guy   well thats the one im looking for :)
19:39 wizzyrea              i don't remember it doing that
19:39 library_systems_guy   oh
19:39 wizzyrea              mmm shouldn't
19:39 library_systems_guy   receive*
19:39 library_systems_guy   so the transfers to recieve also shows transfers going out of our library?
19:37 library_systems_guy   ahh ok thanks rangi and wizzyrea
19:35 rangi                 hopefully they do it with freedom too :)
19:35 rangi                 http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=15748  <-- cool
19:35 rangi                 speaking of cloud
19:34 wizzyrea              yea, transfers to receive
19:34 rangi                 transfers waiting to receive
19:34 rangi                 in circ library_systems_guy
19:34 library_systems_guy   does anybody know if there is an outstanding transfers script?
19:30 magnuse               liw++
19:29 rangi                 he's cool like that
19:28 rangi                 liw did it
19:28 magnuse               and a very cool feature!
19:28 magnuse               good idea ;-)
19:28 rangi                 koha-common backs itself up nightly, and the download links to those, (so its not realtime dumping the db and killing you)
19:28 magnuse               ah, cool
19:27 rangi                 so we have to wrap it, so it wont show if it doesnt work :)
19:27 rangi                 the download button only works with the koha-common packages
19:27 rangi                 the code to generate the backups is in already
19:26 magnuse               ooh, planning on submitting that? ;-)
19:26 rangi                 we try and make sure we do that with our hosted koha's by having the source code availabel for download, but also a button in the admin interface that you can click on to get all your config files + your db
19:26 magnuse               yay
19:25 rangi                 Software as a service, without committing crimes against freedom
19:25 rangi                 eythian gave a great talk at the OSDC conference in australia too
19:24 rangi                 gitorious is another
19:24 rangi                 http://www.libravatar.org/  <-- is an example of 'cloud' software that respects freedom
19:23 rangi                 francois talks well about that
19:23 rangi                 ah yeah, freeing the cloud
19:22 rangi                 http://www.r-project.org/contributors.html
19:21 rangi                 or auckland
19:21 rhcl                  The July issue is pretty good, learning lots of stuff. Trying to comprehend http://softwarefreedom.org/events/2010/isoc-ny/FreedomInTheCloud-transcript.html right now.
19:21 rangi                 up at waikato
19:21 rangi                 yep
19:20 rhcl                  Hey, this is interesting. de July 11 Linux Journal, at the NZ Open Source Awards Ross Ihaka, one of the developers of R, received a lifetime achievement award from Catalyst. Didn't know that R was developed in NZ.
19:20 rhcl                  repeat abv tx:
19:20 rhcl                  I hadn't realized R was originally developed in NZ.
19:16 rangi                 heya cait
19:16 rangi                 brett from catalyst is organising a lot of that
19:16 rangi                 yep
19:15 rhcl                  Kiwi PYCON in Wellington in August
19:14 cait                  morning rangi :)
19:08 rangi                 im pretty sure jo would have driven to wellington to hit me by now if it was doing that
19:08 rangi                 good im not going mad then
19:08 oleonard              I can't either
19:07 rangi                 cos i cant
19:07 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6449 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , no way to track when patron originally enrolled
19:07 rangi                 has anyone been able to recreate bug 6449 ?
18:21 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3072 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , 'Heading-Main' authority-index breaks authority searching in STABLE
18:21 jenkins_koha          * Frédérick Capovilla: 5684: Remove all items fields from a Z39.50 record imported for acquisition.
18:21 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5760 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Add the jquery table sorter to borrowers reading record
18:21 jenkins_koha          * Marcel de Rooy: 5860 Fixing stocknumber index
18:21 jenkins_koha          * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 3072: Add Heading-Main and Any to MARC21 DOM
18:21 jenkins_koha          * Owen Leonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 5760 - Add the jquery table sorter to reading record
18:21 jenkins_koha          Project Koha_3.2.x build #28: SUCCESS in 38 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/28/
17:51 huginn`               New commit(s) kohagit32: 5684: Remove all items fields from a Z39.50 record imported for acquisition. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99f2fdfffbd7aea5dc28c237edf0bf568483138f> / 5860 Fixing stocknumber index <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=df75fc81b4508d63679ceaaa47753b1e36f177a8> / Bug 3072: Add Heading-Main and Any to MARC21 DOM <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitd
17:45 gmcharlt              chris_n++
17:45 chris_n               parting is such sweet sorrow....
17:45 chris_n               that about does it for 3.2.10... and 3.2.x as a whole
17:45 gmcharlt              chris_n: thx
17:45 chris_n               although one of them was already there
17:44 chris_n               gmcharlt: pushed
17:43 jenkins_koha          Starting build 28 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:28 wizzyrea              *nod*
17:28 sekjal                and the twilight that evening after it passed was this eerie orange
17:27 sekjal                it was weird
17:26 chris_n               yeah, those northern tornadoes are quite unusual
17:25 wizzyrea              :((
17:24 sekjal                death count is at 4, from last news I saw
17:24 sekjal                my friends school got hit, so he found himself with a day off
17:24 wizzyrea              yea I heard that. very sad
17:24 sekjal                Springfield, MA got the tornados
17:23 wizzyrea              his county was in a tornado warning
17:23 wizzyrea              it was sekjal who had to watch out yesterday
17:23 chris_n               there was one in the mid-western part of NC last week, but nothing this far east lately... thankfully
17:22 chris_n               none of late
17:22 wizzyrea              you?
17:21 wizzyrea              not today, thankfully
17:21 chris_n               are you dodging tornadoes?
17:20 wizzyrea              nice to see you
17:20 wahanui               wizzyrea is a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet
17:20 chris_n               heya wizzyrea
17:20 wizzyrea              hi chris_n :)
17:20 chris_n               actually that's even easier than a patch :-)
17:19 chris_n               will push in a bit along with a few other's
17:19 gmcharlt              chris_n: thanks - wasn't sure if that is a useful way to deal with consolidated backports of bugfixes
17:19 chris_n               gmcharlt: got it, tnx
17:16 gmcharlt              chris_n: may I have an acknowledgement of my 3.2.x pull request sent 5/26, please?
16:25 Oak                   \o
16:18 rhcl                  Hey, this is interesting. de July 11 Linux Journal, at the NZ Open Source Awards Ross Ihaka, one of the developers of R, received a lifetime achievement award from Catalyst. Didn't know that R was developed in NZ.
15:29 * sekjal              also takes a cookie, and gets geared up for QA work
15:29 * druthb              takes a cookie, and heads to lunch and errands.  Lazily.
15:28 oleonard              The term "git" loses its sting when the git we know is so powerful and useful.
15:28 cait                  understood?
15:28 cait                  you are both NOT lazy
15:28 * cait                hands out cookies to you both
15:28 wizzyrea              sekjal I'm glad you're safe
15:28 cait                  *sighs*
15:28 sekjal                I'm kicking him regardless
15:27 druthb                He's not lazy!  He's just overworked by that lazy lady who does migrations for ByWater.
15:27 sekjal                ah, that lazy git... I'll give him a kick
15:26 druthb                yep.  wizzyrea signed it off.  It's apparently just waiting for the QA Manager.  ;-)
15:25 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6397 minor, P5, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , Mis-named variable in .TT causes table cell shift
15:25 cait                  bug 6397
15:24 cait                  I think ruth did a patch for that?
15:24 cait                  sekal there is a bug for that
15:22 sekjal                on current HEAD, can anyone confirm if the item's enumchron field is failing to display despite being populated?  This is on catalogue/detail.pl in the staff client
14:21 conan                 fredericd: you around?
14:17 cait                  conan: you should as fredericd
14:08 conan                 (I need to decide if I should sit my bottom one full week to exclusively translate or if I can dedicate some time to other stuff that's burning my ass)
14:07 conan                 so I don't know if those files have been applied or not
14:07 conan                 but I keep founding many things with mixed languages in the UI
14:06 conan                 it says there that everything's translated,
14:06 conan                 does someone know what's the status of the po files in http://translate.koha-community.org in relation to current master?
13:21 cait                  yeah, we have expiry date and date enrolled
13:21 cait                  ah
13:21 cait                  ah
13:21 cait                  oh?
13:20 oleonard              that's what we have :)
13:20 cait                  perhaps we need a creation_date field?
13:20 cait                  ah
13:20 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6449 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , no way to track when patron originally enrolled
13:20 oleonard              Bug 6449
13:20 cait                  about which bug are you talking?
13:19 oleonard              It?
13:19 wahanui               i already had it that way, huginn`.
13:19 huginn`               druthb: Quote #50: "<pianohackr|work> It is a landmine, I tell you" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 04:44 PM, December 23, 2009)
13:19 druthb                @quote random
13:19 oleonard              That one always gets a laugh!
13:18 huginn`               gmcharlt: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
13:18 gmcharlt              @quote random
13:17 druthb                It is possible, Brooke.  I thought I had found the culprit, when this first got reported, but now I'm not sure.
13:16 Brooke                it wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility that it was closed in that flurry of bug fixing though, would it? Just never updated ticket wise?
13:15 Brooke                0/
13:12 * druthb              will investigate.  The site lists that as a Major before go-live on the 20th.
13:12 oleonard              Yes
13:12 druthb                Interesting...on HEAD?
13:12 oleonard              Yeah, seems to work correctly for me.
13:10 Brooke                the plot thickens
13:09 * druthb              raises an eyebrow.
13:08 oleonard              Actually, I can't reproduce it
13:05 druthb                yeah, how 'bout that... a Sirsi Symphony library spotted that.  I would think Just Don't Do That would be a good answer, but it might be useful to add a datelastnewed.  I can't imagine a real-world case for that, but you never know.
13:03 oleonard              I had no idea dateenrolled was overwritten by a patron renewal
13:03 Brooke                anchi'o
13:03 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6449 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , no way to track when patron originally enrolled
13:03 * oleonard            is surprised about Bug 6449
12:44 cait                  :)
12:43 Brooke                0/
12:42 sekjal                morning, Brooke
12:42 Brooke                good morning, Ian.
12:31 oleonard              One of three. The preschoolers go all summer.
12:31 Brooke                are the kids out of school for summer?
12:30 Brooke                your presumption might not be too far from the truth though ;)
12:30 oleonard              I noticed you're here early Brooke, but I wouldn't presume to think you slept in all those other days
12:28 Brooke                oleonard = I'm up at a civilised hour.
12:28 cait                  :)
12:28 cait                  hi oleonard and Brooke
12:28 Brooke                :)
12:28 oleonard              Hi Brooke
12:28 Brooke                kia ora!
11:46 cait                  hi conan
11:41 conan                 hello everybody
11:32 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6335] Branch not set consistently in all SIP transactions <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6335>
11:21 huginn`               druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 21.4�C (7:25 AM EDT on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Steady).
11:21 druthb                @wunder 20852
11:19 huginn`               cait: Error: No such location could be found.
11:19 cait                  @wunder Berlin, Germany
11:16 cait                  hm
11:16 huginn`               cait: Error: No such location could be found.
11:16 cait                  @wunder Berlin Germany
11:16 huginn`               cait: Error: No such location could be found.
11:16 cait                  @wunder Berlin
11:16 cait                  !
11:16 huginn`               cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 26.2�C (1:20 PM CEST on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.03 in 983.0 hPa (Steady).
11:16 cait                  @wunder Reutlingen
11:15 huginn`               cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 17.0�C (1:00 PM CEST on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
11:15 cait                  @wunder Konstanz
11:06 huginn`               Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 32.0�C (4:10 PM IST on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling).
11:06 Amit_Gupta            @wunder Mumbai
11:06 huginn`               Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 35.0�C (4:00 PM IST on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling).
11:06 Amit_Gupta            @wunder New Delhi
11:06 huginn`               Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 30.0�C (2:30 PM IST on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003 hPa.
11:06 Amit_Gupta            @wunder Dehradun
11:06 huginn`               Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 27.0�C (2:30 PM IST on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 20.0�C.
11:06 Amit_Gupta            @wunder Bangalore
08:49 rangi                 yup
08:49 cait                  that it's always a monday
08:49 cait                  ah, that's a good thing
08:48 rangi                 monday is queens birthday tho, (not her real birthday, we just get the first monday in june as a holiday every year)
08:47 rangi                 not til september here
08:47 rangi                 not here it isnt
08:46 cait                  google says it's father's day
08:45 cait                  oh
08:30 cait                  hi rangi :)
08:30 rangi                 heya cait
08:29 huginn`               cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.0�C (10:30 AM CEST on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Steady).
08:29 cait                  @wunder Konstanz
08:27 rangi                 heh
08:27 slef                  drinking age in private is 5 but purchasing alcohol on behalf of a minor is illegal... homebrew FTW!
08:26 slef                  complicated... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age#Europe
08:26 slef                  heh, apparently it's the same in England
08:24 slef                  yeah, some student pubs aren't worth it
08:24 rangi                 (The student pubs had big lines at the door, they are basically trying to find reasons not to let you in)
08:24 rangi                 hehe
08:24 slef                  heh, debconf7 says the legal drinking age in Scotland is 5
08:22 rangi                 most likely they are smart to go to a nicer pub anyway :)
08:22 rangi                 ahh its only in the real studenty pubs
08:21 slef                  so what do mixed-age groups do? Just not go into pubs?
08:21 slef                  wow, that's a bit anti-social
08:21 rangi                 i think i could have entered if they had let me legally, but basically they just id everyone and if you arent legal drinking age they just dont let you in
08:21 slef                  yeah, 18
08:20 rangi                 is there a legal drinking age?
08:20 slef                  just checked and I can't find a legal age restriction on entry to a pub here... of course, some pubs put a 18 or 21 (or I think 25 sometimes) limit but that's up to the landlord
08:15 rangi                 and it was 20 to drink back then, it 18 now
08:15 rangi                 in student towns they tend to id you at the door
08:15 slef                  errr... NZ has age restrictions on pubs?
08:15 rangi                 heh
08:14 slef                  I'm never sure of the worth of compsci for developers <fx:runs-away />
08:14 rangi                 it helped that i was finally old enough to get into pubs too :)
08:14 rangi                 the BA was a lot more fun than the BSc
08:14 rangi                 so cross credited a year to a BA, and finished my math major, and added a maori studies major
08:13 rangi                 i did maths as a minor in my compsci degree, then didnt want to get a job :)
08:13 slef                  Yeah, I must have a couple of books on fields and groups somewhere in this office.
08:13 rangi                 ahh
08:13 slef                  Mine was process of elimination... drop applied, then reduce pure to a minor.
08:12 rangi                 fun
08:12 rangi                 then it was group and set theory
08:12 rangi                 i only did stats up to year 2
08:12 slef                  I did pure maths options in year 3, though.
08:11 slef                  ah well, mine was statistics, where you just assume all the errors cancel out enough
08:11 slef                  I think it leaves you vulnerable to perl's number base being changed, if that can be set globally (can't find it at a glance)
08:11 rangi                 yeah mine was pure math, not that new fangled calculas thing where you can deal with imprecise numbers :-)
08:10 rangi                 i guess if its not being used for anything then its fine
08:10 slef                  I agree on it feeling wrong, but I also did a maths degree
08:09 slef                  I'm not using it for anything; and truncation is desired rather than rounding
08:08 rangi                 but mostly now it just feels wrong :)
08:08 rangi                 i bet if i went back through my maths degree, i could find a better reason why its bad
08:07 rangi                 i think id rather round, than truncate
08:07 rangi                 is it for display, or are you using the value for calculation?
08:07 rangi                 well i guess if places is sufficiently huge its not so bad
08:06 slef                  rangi: I think so but why? That's what I had a hard time justifying.
08:06 rangi                 thats pretty much always a bad idea
08:05 slef                  and 2. are you scared yet?
08:04 slef                  ok, why is this a bad idea, or not? ($truncated)=($num =~ /^(\d+\.\d{${places}})/);
07:56 Amit_Gupta            heya cait morning ;)
07:36 cait                  morning :)
07:29 slef                  hi Amit_Gupta
07:29 Amit_Gupta            heya slef
07:07 slef                  oops, timezones 1, slef 0
06:01 SpaceLibrarian_home   But I agree
06:01 SpaceLibrarian_home   I can get up in the middle of the night again.
06:00 Brooke                I'd like to see a heap of Indian involvement
06:00 SpaceLibrarian_home   Yep
06:00 Brooke                I think we'll just have kmkale set a convenient time
06:00 huginn`               Log:            http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2011/koha.2011-06-02-05.59.log.html
06:00 huginn`               Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2011/koha.2011-06-02-05.59.txt
06:00 huginn`               Minutes:        http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2011/koha.2011-06-02-05.59.html
06:00 huginn`               Meeting ended Thu Jun  2 06:04:47 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
06:00 Brooke                #endmeeting
05:59 SpaceLibrarian_home   Brooke +
05:59 Brooke                or do things via email and meet later?
05:59 SpaceLibrarian_home   meet another time?
05:58 Brooke                we want to do this thing, or meet another time?
05:58 Brooke                so here's a question?
05:56 SpaceLibrarian_home   Shelley Gurney, Catalyst NZ
05:55 Brooke                introductions even
05:55 Brooke                #topic introductins
05:55 huginn`               Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
05:55 huginn`               Meeting started Thu Jun  2 05:59:53 2011 UTC.  The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
05:55 Brooke                #startmeeting
05:55 SpaceLibrarian_home   heh
05:54 Brooke                Shotgun!
05:54 SpaceLibrarian_home   Considering I think it's going to be the two of us taking over the world and kmkale lurking... mebbe. Prove me wrong koha! :)
05:54 * Brooke              watches the clock.
05:51 Brooke                would we like to start now or wait the 5 mins?
05:50 SpaceLibrarian_home   Ignore that, I'm just dropping things.
05:49 SpaceLibrarian_home   3.
05:49 SpaceLibrarian_home   I think it's going to be a pretty quiet meeting.
05:49 * SpaceLibrarian_home looks at Brooke blankly
05:49 Brooke                do we have an agenda, or is it just the wiki stuff I put up
05:48 SpaceLibrarian_home   Hey Brooke, I think you're chairing...
05:47 kmkale                think of the ....
05:47 kmkale                hi Brooke
05:47 kmkale                Brooke may chair
05:47 Brooke                kia ora
05:47 kmkale                network is very patchy
05:47 kmkale                please consider me as a lurker for today's volunteer meeting.
05:38 kmkale                bit better. back on road
05:35 SpaceLibrarian_home   feeling better?
05:30 kmkale                the car shakes too much for proper typing :(
05:30 kmkale                Namaste shelly
05:28 SpaceLibrarian_home   namaste kmkale
04:23 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5602] Improve configurability of package building scripts <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5602>
03:54 pianohacker           sorry, wireless is crazy
03:25 Amit_Gupta            Good morning koha ;)
03:25 rangi                 hiya Amit_Gupta
03:25 Amit_Gupta            heya chris
03:13 rangi                 brr, the aircon has gone crazy cold
02:55 rangi                 heya NateC
02:55 Brooke                0/
02:55 pianohacker           perhaps unloading/reloading my wireless module isn't the best way to deal with this godforsaken router
02:54 rangi                 havent had that happen to me pianohacker
02:53 pianohacker           ...well then
02:53 huginn`               pianohacker: Karma for "-" has been increased 3 times and decreased 38 times for a total karma of -35.
02:53 pianohacker           @karma -
02:53 pianohacker           -++
02:53 wahanui               it has been said that wait, is it only in items?
02:53 pianohacker           wait, what?
02:53 pianohacker           well after booting up
02:53 rangi                 ppl nned to stop pasting in html :)
02:53 pianohacker           has anyone else had a linux machine suddenly fade to black and present a lovely /bin/ash (initramfs) prompt?
02:52 huginn`               rangi: Highest karma: "rangi" (342), "oleonard" (280), and "gmcharlt" (257).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-104), "failed" (-56), and "-" (-36).  You (rangi) are ranked 1 out of 1511.
02:52 rangi                 @karma
02:52 pianohacker           <!++
02:52 pianohacker           heh
02:52 * Brooke              leers at druthb
02:52 huginn`               eythian: Karma for "<!" has been increased 4 times and decreased 109 times for a total karma of -105.
02:52 eythian               @karma <!
02:52 druthb                Otherwise, I'd be down the cellar somewhere.
02:52 huginn`               eythian: < has neutral karma.
02:52 eythian               @karma <
02:52 Brooke                *someone* busted that loophole.
02:52 pianohacker           man, the bots got pissed off
02:51 druthb                nope.
02:51 pianohacker           haha, was wondering
02:51 huginn`               pianohacker: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
02:51 pianohacker           pianohacker--
02:51 pianohacker           Hi brooke
02:51 pianohacker           hmm
02:51 Brooke                hooray
02:51 druthb                pianohacker++
02:51 pianohacker           and druthb
02:51 huginn`               druthb: Karma for "pianohacker" has been increased 35 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 35.
02:51 druthb                @karma pianohacker
02:51 druthb                hi, pianohacker.  :)
02:51 pianohacker           hey chris
02:51 rangi                 hiya pianohacker
02:43 rangi                 like the guy in owhiro bay, who built a house out of shipping containers
02:42 Brooke                ha! That would be an upgrade in both cleanliness and square footage!
02:42 Soupermanito          i want that "dont mess whit a time lord" one
02:42 rangi                 ibeardslee: thats where she lives
02:42 Brooke                I didn't but Andy did >:)
02:42 ibeardslee            Brooke: oh? and how did you find that out?
02:41 rangi                 what happens when you leave a rack outside the sysadmin lair
02:41 Brooke                dell racks do not unlock from the inside.
02:41 Brooke                fact
02:41 Brooke                so
02:41 Brooke                hehhe
02:41 rangi                 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5788746066/in/photostream/
02:41 rangi                 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5788745426/in/photostream/
02:41 rangi                 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5788744388/in/photostream/
02:40 rangi                 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5788743510/in/photostream/
02:40 druthb                :D
02:40 rangi                 hey you two
02:40 druthb                o/
02:39 Brooke                0/
02:39 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6190] Custom field removal from patron entry screens <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6190>
00:11 conan                 see you tomorrow, bye now
00:11 magnuse               rangi++
00:10 magnuse               i will definitely be looking more at this!
00:10 conan                 will do the warn pester tomorrow
00:10 magnuse               sorry rangi, i gotta catch some sleep too, it's 2 am (but the sun is shining on some of the houses in the neighbourhood ;-)
00:10 conan                 I'm talking nonsense
00:10 conan                 rangi: you're right, and I should go eat and sleep :)
00:09 conan                 my ssh is transmitting with timbals
00:09 rangi                 setting a variable, not calling the function
00:08 rangi                 its setting it
00:08 rangi                 $_current_language = $lang;
00:08 conan                 ok, I have to look at this properly tomorrow
00:08 rangi                 no its not
00:08 conan                 rangi: _current_language is being called from themelanguage, on the langauge selection foreach
00:08 rangi                 just have to track down why the language chooser was saying nb
00:07 rangi                 so dont have to worry about that
00:07 rangi                 we know its not being cached
00:07 rangi                 yep
00:07 magnuse               memcached, you mean?
00:06 rangi                 right, so that makes one less thing to worry about
00:05 magnuse               nope
00:05 rangi                 yep, do you have memcached running?
00:05 magnuse               weirdness: i looked at the opac, the language chooser was showing norwegian as selected but the page was showing in english, i did "die $lang;" just before "return ( $theme, $lang );" in themelanguage() and it showed "en" as the active language. then i removed the die, chose english and then norwegian and put the die back, this time it told me nb-NO as the language. so the language chooser is not in tune with themelanguage()...
00:05 rangi                 # used only by C4::XSLT::XSLTParse4Display;
00:05 rangi                 It is
00:05 rangi                 no
00:04 conan                 could that has something to do with it?
00:04 conan                 the one with a six line comment saying FIXME
00:04 conan                 hum... what about the 'ugly hack' in sub _current_language ?