Time Nick Message 22:39 pianohacker buenas noches 22:39 slef sfr = mobile? 22:38 cait bed time for me - good night #koha 22:38 cait late! 22:38 cait hi paul_p 22:35 cait and the lake might matter too 22:34 cait lot's of rain today 22:33 huginn` pianohacker: The current temperature in Near Trinidad State Junior College, Trinidad, Colorado is 30.0�C (4:37 PM MDT on May 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 12%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.25 in 990.4 hPa (Steady). 22:33 pianohacker @wunder trinidad, co 22:33 pianohacker Okay, I knew the humidity where my parents are living is crazy low: 22:32 pianohacker your humidity's crazy high, which makes it worse 22:32 cait it's really a bit chilly out there tonight 22:32 bg :) 22:32 bg nope he's _away 22:31 cait ok, perhaps cheating a little 22:31 bg heh - so you win YAY cait++ 22:31 cait ah, but he has gone to bed... :) 22:31 bg s/bet/beat/ 22:30 bg no cait magnus_away just bet ya 22:30 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 16.4�C (5:34 PM CDT on May 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006.3 hPa (Rising). 22:30 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks 22:30 pianohacker I'm just happy because I'm biking 2.5 miles to work, and the weather's been about perfect for it 22:30 cait could win for coldest? 22:30 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.0�C (12:25 AM CEST on May 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Steady). 22:30 cait @wunder Konstanz 22:30 huginn` cait: Error: No such location could be found. 22:30 cait @wunder Konstnaz 22:30 pianohacker definitely most degrees :) 22:30 bg :) 22:30 * bg gets the win today :0 22:29 bg heh 22:29 magnuse g'night #koha - see ya tomorrow! 22:27 huginn` pianohacker: The current temperature in Lookout Pointe, Golden, Colorado is 17.8�C (4:31 PM MDT on May 27, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.60 in 1002.3 hPa (Steady). 22:27 pianohacker @wunder 80401 22:27 magnuse nah 22:26 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (11:50 PM CEST on May 27, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). 22:26 magnuse @wunder boo 22:26 bg yup hot out there 22:26 huginn` bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 26.3�C (3:30 PM PDT on May 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 3 am PDT Monday... 22:26 bg @wunder 93109 21:42 magnuse hehe 21:42 wizzyrea i just watched a video on the tongue mechanics of hummingbirds. It's definitely friday 21:41 slef I think wahanui is tired 21:41 * wizzyrea frowns 21:41 wizzyrea ! 21:41 slef omgwtfroflcopterbbq? 21:36 cait lol 21:36 pianohacker :) 21:36 wizzyrea that made me laugh 21:36 wizzyrea pianohacker++ 21:36 magnuse hehe 21:35 wizzyrea LOL! 21:35 pianohacker omgwtfroflcopterbbq is oh my goodness, why, that flying roflcopter is having a bbq 21:34 wahanui rotflmao is rolling on the floor laughing your arse off 21:34 wizzyrea rotflmao? 21:34 wizzyrea lol dangit 21:34 wizzyrea torflmao? 21:34 wizzyrea rotflmao is rolling on the floor laughing my arse off 21:34 wizzyrea :) 21:33 wahanui rofl is, like, rolling on floor laughing 21:33 wizzyrea rofl? 21:33 wizzyrea so when someone goes 21:33 wizzyrea i'm helping! 21:33 wizzyrea no no :) 21:33 conan for a moment I thought wizzyrea was training me, I didn't know what to say 21:31 cait definitely friday :) 21:31 cait lol 21:29 pianohacker ) 21:29 pianohacker : 21:29 magnuse wow, it's friday ;-) 21:29 pianohacker omgwtfroflcopterbbq? 21:29 pianohacker rotflmao? 21:28 wizzyrea hehehehe 21:28 wahanui hmmm... arse is unacceptably sweary? 21:28 slef arse? 21:28 wahanui lmao is laughing your (bum) off 21:28 wizzyrea lmao? 21:27 slef close 21:27 wizzyrea ! 21:27 wahanui omg is oh wizzyrea's gosh 21:27 slef omg? 21:27 wizzyrea we may have killed wahanui lol 21:27 wizzyrea nah 21:27 library_systems_guy apparently i missed an interesting conversation 21:27 slef arse is unacceptably sweary? 21:27 wizzyrea wtf? 21:26 wizzyrea lmao is laughing my (bum) off 21:26 wizzyrea rofl is rolling on floor laughing 21:26 wizzyrea omg is oh my gosh 21:25 wizzyrea wtf is what the f*** 21:25 slef pubfood is probably universally bastardised, f'd-over or destroyed 21:25 slef fubar is f'd up beyond all recognition 21:25 slef snafu is situation normal: all f'd up 21:24 slef nfi is no fine idea 21:24 slef nfc is no fine clue 21:24 slef etla is extended three letter acronym 21:23 slef tla is three letter acronym 21:23 magnuse hehe 21:19 wizzyrea not "I M ho" as i'm sure some believed at some point in internet history. 21:19 wizzyrea imho is in my humble opinion 21:19 wizzyrea imo is in my opinion 21:18 wizzyrea tbh is to be honest 21:18 wizzyrea afaik is as far as I know 21:18 wizzyrea afk is away from keyboard 21:18 wahanui bbiab is Be Back In A Bit 21:18 magnuse bbiab? 21:18 magnuse bbiab is Be Back In A Bit 21:17 magnuse be back in a bit, i think? 21:17 conan bbiab? that's a "bye" in some language? bye then! 21:15 cait cya rangi 21:15 rangi ok will bbiab 21:14 rangi kinda have to read all the bugs 21:14 rangi i usually read all those, and devel, im usually behind a lot on the main list tho 21:13 magnuse cait: cool! ;-) 21:13 magnuse conan: yeah, i route the patches and bugs mails into a folder and sometimes have to delete a bunch unread... 21:12 conan magnuse: I have >500 on the other list, I think I will overlook those 21:11 cait magnuse: next time in nz I will buy you a chocolate fish 21:10 conan rangi: I agree with no special cases 21:10 magnuse cait: i was thinking about testing that before beddybyes 21:10 * rangi never fully catches up 21:09 * magnuse finally caught up with the lists this week, strange but good feeling 21:09 cait evil but... easy to test... 21:09 rangi hehe 21:09 cait oh... and I have a patch waiting for sign-off in bugzilla... 21:09 magnuse +1 21:09 cait I like this rm's rules 21:08 wizzyrea i have a soft spot for weirdly combined words 21:08 wizzyrea but it's funny all the same 21:08 wizzyrea sorry I know that's not true. 21:08 wizzyrea favourties - the things you get at parties. 21:08 rangi or favourites :) 21:08 rangi no favourties 21:07 rangi maybe after me a diff release manager will change it, but for 3.6 everyone gets treated the same 21:07 rangi there is, and never will be, any patch guaranteed to make it into koha tho, not in 3.6 21:06 rangi get someone inside to sign, then it goes up to qa 21:06 rangi if you cant find anyone outside your organisation to sign off on your patches 21:06 rangi sure there is 21:06 conan true 21:06 conan I hope there is a solution at the end 21:06 rangi oh thats not even had any mail this week 21:06 conan I'm reading "Release Manager 3.6" thread 21:05 conan *week 21:05 conan I got >100 mails behind this weel 21:01 rangi which one, the social engineering one? 21:00 conan rangi: yeah, poor choose of the proper term from me, but you got what I mean... I think 20:53 rangi then its back to nz, to speak / work a booth at LIANZA 20:52 rangi discussions, but we never get into stupid flamewar territory .. i could show you some of those that would make your hair curl 20:52 magnuse there's a fight? 20:52 rangi if you have ever been on any other mailing list, you'll notice we dont really have fights :) 20:51 rangi what fight? 20:51 * conan still haven't finished the fight thread 20:51 rangi hehe 20:50 * magnuse tried to avoid reading, so as not to get too tempted... 20:49 cait yes, read it :) 20:49 rangi did you see the program lots of good talks too 20:48 * cait loves hackfests 20:47 magnuse yeah, that's what i thought too 20:47 cait hm, now access gets really tempting :) 20:46 cait ah 20:46 rangi (email to the koha list) 20:45 cait huh? 20:43 magnuse well, i'd sure like to be able to be there... 20:43 magnuse hehe 20:43 wizzyrea hee 20:43 rangi i need someone to read my emails before i send them :) 20:42 rangi oh i know, doing a release isnt stressful enough, ill do it in front of an audience 20:42 rangi sometimes im a spaz 20:37 skushner thanks, bg. don't want to put any MS on our new VM server... 20:34 skushner nope, but will check it out 20:31 bg skushner: you look at that before? 20:31 bg http://www.zimbra.com/ 20:31 bg zimbra? 20:30 skushner mail, primarily..calendars, maybe. 20:26 magnuse hola conan 20:26 conan magnuse: hi 20:22 magnuse g'evening #koha 20:20 NateC gotta run see you all later!! 20:19 NateC Hiya rangi! 20:19 library_systems_guy blargh exchange 20:19 rangi yo NateC ! 20:18 rangi its just to do mail eh? not to do the other mad stuff exchange does? 20:17 rangi postfix 20:16 skushner Anybody have a suggestion for a good linux mail server to replace ms-exchange..?? 20:15 rangi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate_fish 20:15 rangi in my gitweb 20:15 rangi ignore the broken css 20:14 cait chocolate fish? 20:14 rangi id give them a chocolate fish 20:14 rangi someone could grab this, and fix/finish it if they wanted 20:13 rangi http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/openlibrary 20:13 chris_n we use google books with fairly good success 20:11 rangi openlibrary was pretty good 20:11 wizzyrea for covers 20:11 wizzyrea it's been months since I tried google 20:11 wizzyrea that's good to know 20:10 rangi they are getting more and more results all the time 20:10 rangi s/a have/i have/ 20:10 rangi yep a have a bunch of libraries that use google books 20:07 wizzyrea rhcl: it does work though 20:07 wizzyrea :) true enough 20:07 conan wizzyrea: we all wanna run away on friday 20:07 wizzyrea my experience has been that google covers a lot fewer books 20:06 rhcl I was told to ask, so don't have any personal background on the issue, but maybe the question is "do any of you use google images instead of amazon"? 20:06 wizzyrea by... he's so fast on that quit button. 20:05 oleonard Have a good weekend everyone 20:05 wizzyrea that's in now 20:05 wizzyrea for books? 20:05 wizzyrea chris_n: eww 20:05 rhcl can we, or has anyone tried using Google images? 20:04 * chris_n thinks the rain-fade on satellite might be preferable to the total dsl signal loss though 20:03 chris_n not exactly; more like a wet pedestal that the telco can't seem to locate 20:03 slef chris_n: satellite? 20:02 chris_n shooting the moon with the internet is not all its cracked up to be ;-) 19:53 rangi but im not going to fix it 19:53 rangi and i wouldnt not accept it, if it stuck to the T&C 19:53 rangi well, someone might 19:52 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5568 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Upgrade Amazon module to support Product Advertising API 19:52 oleonard In that case maybe Bug 5568 is "wonfix" 19:51 rangi they and just ditch amazon 19:51 * wizzyrea conjures time for rangi 19:51 rangi to finish the covers work i did with that 19:50 rangi someone should give me some time 19:50 rangi openlibrary 19:50 rangi yup 19:50 slef yeah I suspect I mentioned that at some point 19:49 oleonard https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/advertising/api/detail/agreement.html?ie=UTF8&pf_rd_t=501&ref_=amb_link_83952631_8&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=&pf_rd_s=assoc-center-1&pf_rd_r=&pf_rd_i=assoc-api-detail-0 19:49 oleonard "Unsuitable applications include those that: (a) do not have as their principal purpose advertising and marketing the Amazon Site and driving sales of products and services on the Amazon Site;" 19:49 rangi or at least breachings terms and conditions 19:49 rangi mostly because its illegal 19:49 rangi naw that was never part of koha 19:49 wizzyrea skushner: yay! 19:48 skushner just in time to..or vm server is in.. 19:46 skushner and...i am spent.. 19:46 skushner I hope... 19:46 skushner finally!! 19:46 skushner I *think* I got the squeeze kernel netbooting to my sun box (I hope..i hope..) 19:44 wizzyrea please, share your victory :) 19:44 skushner I think i finally did it. 19:43 wizzyrea sadly even that's not yet got all of the LEK stuff in it, afaict (according to the release notes) 19:42 slef wizzyrea: I'd be surprised, but rangi might be able to diff with the liblime git tree he snarfed 19:42 oleonard wizzyrea: I don't believe that functionality ever existed 19:40 wizzyrea (practically speaking if it is in liblime ils it was never done, as we don't have it) 19:40 wizzyrea or afawk it was never done 19:39 conan Brooke: have nothing to say, except that I need a nap but I'm so behind with koha-dev ML that I want to read some more messages before crashing 19:39 wizzyrea oh, so some version of liblime ils might do this? 19:39 slef oleonard: yeah, caused us problems with clients hearing that, then asking why their Koha didn't do that 19:38 oleonard slef: Yes 19:38 slef oleonard: mmm, kados? 19:38 * Brooke hears fernando 19:37 * conan is back 19:37 Brooke 0/ 19:37 wizzyrea hm 19:37 Brooke *notintendedasafactualstatement 19:37 Brooke it can serve me breakfast! 19:36 oleonard I don't think that was ever true 19:36 oleonard serve it to your users via the OPAC" 19:36 oleonard locally cache the content on one of your library services and 19:36 oleonard "Koha can be configured to periodically download content en masse and 19:36 oleonard Even in the good old days 19:36 oleonard Yeah, that's one of the problems with listening to that person talk about Koha: it's not always all true 19:36 wizzyrea (could) do that 19:36 wizzyrea I didn't even know it did that 19:36 wizzyrea cuz, I don't think I've ever seen a koha that caches 19:35 chris_n internet... gotta love it :P 19:35 wizzyrea hm the default behavior is to do it live, wonder if the 1k retrievals a day still stands 19:35 Brooke 0/ 19:32 Brooke Eat your <3 out Nancy Pearl! 19:32 Brooke http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/05/27/amazon.well.read.cities/index.html?hpt=C2 19:32 Brooke #2 Baby!!! 19:29 oleonard Of course the legality of it may have changed, and should really require independent verification anyway given the source 19:28 oleonard Here's the scoop from the good ole days: http://osdir.com/ml/culture.libraries.ngc4lib/2006-12/msg00145.html 19:23 library_systems_guy well im sure if they can sell a book or 2 its worth it 19:20 oleonard ...although when it was added we were told Amazon encouraged it. 19:20 wizzyrea *nod* 19:20 * oleonard thinks that mooching off Amazon is probably bad long-term strategy anyway 19:19 library_systems_guy i know...now we have to look at syndedics (sp) 19:19 wizzyrea :( that's stinky. 19:18 library_systems_guy its like 2 digits off :-/ 19:17 library_systems_guy a lot of our ebooks fail from amazon because of a different isbn 19:17 oleonard I think there is 19:16 yhager I also can get "title notes", only if I set the amazon locale to be american. If I set it to Canadian, the title notes do not appear as well 19:16 wizzyrea I thought there was some question if we could use it at all? 19:16 oleonard Amazon's fault, but it's up to us to fix 19:16 wizzyrea oh yea, review, not cover. known problem --> amazon's fault 19:16 oleonard yhager: The Amazon API changed and no one has rewritten to accommodate it 19:16 yhager wizzyrea: 3.2.5 - will upgrade to 3.4.1 soon 19:15 oleonard yhager: Known problem 19:15 wizzyrea what version of koha 19:15 yhager can't get amazon reviews to show on OPAC - is this a known problem? (I have my aws access/private keys set) 19:15 library_systems_guy wb oleonard 19:15 wizzyrea ! 19:14 slef from a mailing list message yesterday: "hidden form fields and the scattering of javascript all over the page like a dog markings its turf is horrible - who ever came up with the postback model needs their head examined" 19:14 wizzyrea wooo! 19:14 oleonard yay, internet is back 19:14 wizzyrea lol 19:14 library_systems_guy hehe no i recycled it :) 19:13 wizzyrea :) 19:13 wizzyrea o i thought you might have the dead tree near ya :_ 19:13 library_systems_guy i can find out for you, but i don't know right off the top of my head 19:13 wizzyrea hold queue => pick list was a biggie for us 19:13 wizzyrea what are the biggies? 19:13 wizzyrea hmm 19:13 * library_systems_guy was just trying to help 19:12 library_systems_guy she didn't take that too well :'( 19:12 library_systems_guy right, i offered to make her a cheat sheet for conversions that she could learn at her leisure 19:12 slef aspx is a turd on the end of a web address 19:12 wizzyrea ok, yes, I agree library_systems_guy that might be a bit much 19:11 wizzyrea there ya go 19:11 slef ODLIS is http://www.abc-clio.com/ODLIS/odlis_A.aspx 19:11 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot odlis 19:11 wizzyrea wahanui, forget ODLIS 19:10 slef that'll teach me not to copy-paste 19:10 wizzyrea oh yea you've gotta leave on the schmuts.asp 19:10 slef hehe 19:10 library_systems_guy she handed me a stack of paper literally 3" thick 19:10 library_systems_guy yeah me too slef 19:10 wizzyrea just curious, what wording? 19:10 sekjal slef: that link returns an error for me 19:10 * library_systems_guy didn't hear that 19:10 wizzyrea yep 19:10 wizzyrea some 19:09 library_systems_guy really?!?! 19:09 wizzyrea but we're back to stock wording now that people feel happy with koha 19:09 wizzyrea it's kind of a secret that we changed wording to match sirsi when we first went live on koha 19:09 wahanui ODLIS is, like, http://www.abc-clio.com/ODLIS/ 19:09 slef ODLIS? 19:09 slef library_systems_guy: shh, I'm testing wahanui 19:09 slef ODLIS is http://www.abc-clio.com/ODLIS/ 19:09 * library_systems_guy is confused 19:08 slef ODLIS? 19:08 library_systems_guy idk im library_systems_guy 19:08 slef what does Sirsi use? 19:08 slef Koha should be using ODLIS wording 19:07 wizzyrea hold queue = pick list 19:07 wizzyrea library_systems_guy: secret: we did -- for a while 19:07 nengard the point is to change!! 19:07 nengard HA 19:07 library_systems_guy yeah well...i told her i wasn't changing Koha wording to match Sirsi 19:07 * wizzyrea teases of course 19:06 nengard i knew she wasn't talking to me ... didn't know it spread to everyone 19:06 wizzyrea maybe she'd talk to you if you, you know, put out the FIRE IN HER HAIR 19:06 slef a whole new meaning to firing the librarian 19:06 nengard oh boy 19:06 library_systems_guy nengard knows what im talking about 19:06 library_systems_guy she has ceased speaking to us :'( 19:06 wizzyrea rather, douse the flames! 19:06 library_systems_guy i would if i could find her...she is mad about us switching ILS's 19:06 nengard LOL 19:05 wizzyrea ! put her out! 19:01 library_systems_guy our circ librarian is running around with her hair on fire 19:01 library_systems_guy ok cool 19:00 sekjal coding is underway 18:59 library_systems_guy i guess i should ask sekjal 18:59 library_systems_guy but i just didn't know what the actual status was 18:58 library_systems_guy well i noticed it was supposed to be done in like december 18:55 slef library_systems_guy: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hourly_Loans_RFC 18:55 wahanui OK, slef. 18:55 slef wahanui: rfcs are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:RFCs 18:54 wahanui slef: I forgot rfcs 18:54 slef wahanui: forget rfcs 18:54 wahanui rfcs are here: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Koha-3-4-RFCs-Acquisitions-Serials-and-SDI-td3049357.html 18:54 slef rfcs? 18:54 slef bah 18:54 slef wiki? 18:54 slef rfc? 18:54 wahanui hourly loans are indeed on the horizon, that would help you. Patron records can be kept indefinitely (though probably you'd want to archive them periodically 18:54 slef hourly loans? 18:54 slef library_systems_guy: search bugs or wiki to find the bug or RFC? 18:34 library_systems_guy thanks wizzyrea 18:34 wizzyrea something about a memory leak 18:34 library_systems_guy ahh 18:34 wizzyrea if I understand correctly 18:34 wizzyrea you just don't want the daemon actually doing your indexing 18:34 wizzyrea nah you have to have to make it a daemon to get search results 18:34 library_systems_guy but im not sure why you wouldn't make it a daemon 18:34 library_systems_guy but i think that has some mixed feelings around here 18:33 library_systems_guy i just followed the instructions in the install file (so make it a daemon) 18:33 library_systems_guy do you mean just configuring zebra 18:32 yhager library_systems_guy: how about zebra itself - configuration and running the server? 18:29 library_systems_guy I think i would just rerun the perl build file 18:29 library_systems_guy yhager, im not 100% sure but i know there are setting for it in your koha-conf.xml file 18:27 Brooke 0/ 18:26 library_systems_guy does anybody know what the status of hourly loans is? 18:21 yhager I have koha with nozebra - and I want to change it to zebra - how can I do that? 18:18 Oak night 18:10 slef time for a break, then I'll try that 18:09 slef the prefix 18:09 slef After reading some more, I think it's probably the search query from the koha OPAC search box. 18:03 cait thought staged marc import 18:03 cait forget what I said 18:03 cait no, bulkmarkimport 18:03 cait oh 18:03 cait slef: not sure, but my coworker complains when I don't have the matching rules in a special sequence - try the number? 18:01 wizzyrea :) 18:01 oleonard wizzyrea: If you based anything on my FB profile you'd like I hardly liked anything 18:00 wizzyrea what is wrong with people 18:00 slef I can't remember what matchpoint can be in the match parameter of bulkmarcimport. The -h output is uninformative. Can anyone point me the right way? 18:00 wizzyrea fewer people like hugging than laughing 17:51 nengard np - sorry I forgot to shift refresh 17:50 oleonard Thanks nengard 17:45 * oleonard grumbles 17:45 * oleonard checks his pockets for Oreos 17:44 wizzyrea heh no :) 17:44 oleonard did the makers of "laughing" promise free Oreos for every like? 17:44 wizzyrea sorry, 20 million = oreos. reading fail. but still. 17:44 wizzyrea hmm 40 million people like oreos on facebook, but only 4 million like laughing. 17:43 huginn` nengard: The operation succeeded. 17:43 nengard @later tell hdl i don't have a copy of your master, feel free to assign the bugs to anyone and update them to include the info on the fix 17:43 wizzyrea now i remember 17:42 wizzyrea yes 17:42 wizzyrea AHA 17:42 nengard Sent 4 days, 2 hours, and 37 minutes ago: <wizzyrea> maybe every x number of newsletters it would be cool to do one like this: http://wpcandy.com/?p=18341 where we highlight new wiki pages, blog posts, really helpful mailing list posts, etc. 17:42 nengard well it was 4 days ago :0 17:42 wizzyrea help me out >.< it's been a longish week 17:42 wizzyrea i'm ashamed to admit that I don't remember what it was... but I remember sending it... 17:41 nengard wizzyrea got your newsletter suggestion and I'll glaldy include something like, would you like to compile it?? 17:39 nengard oleonard ... duh :) 17:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6377 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , fines should be red on patron search 17:38 oleonard nengard: Re: Bug 6377, shift-reload? 17:32 conan gotta run, bye all 17:29 cait hi conan :) 17:29 conan cait: hi there 17:24 cait hi liz :) 17:23 wizzyrea hi :) 17:23 wizzyrea caaaiiiiittttt <3 17:23 cait hi #koha 17:18 wizzyrea "Doing good is part of our code" 17:17 wizzyrea "not every venture is about capital" 17:17 wizzyrea http://www.flickr.com/photos/fligtar/5569324234/in/set-72157626249531015 17:17 wizzyrea oo 17:17 wizzyrea that's better 17:17 wizzyrea http://www.flickr.com/photos/fligtar/sets/72157626249531015/ 17:16 wizzyrea oh bother,sec 17:16 wizzyrea heh, koha's like this >.> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150615911520022&set=a.145889545021.235126.14696440021&type=1&theater 16:38 hilongo \quit 16:11 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6377] fines should be red on patron search <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6377> 15:25 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6408] column alignment off on the patron categories admin <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6408> 15:23 wizzyrea a single commit on a branch 15:23 wizzyrea hmm no, but then again... i've only tried it with one 15:23 oleonard Is that not what you've found? 15:23 oleonard wizzyrea: I tried using "git bz attach" and it didn't work unless I specified the commit id 15:23 library_systems_guy o_0 15:22 oleonard If no one can find your patch in the list of bugs needing signoff you might never get a signoff 15:21 library_systems_guy hmm, even if it is just a div id? 15:21 oleonard You can but it's not recommended 15:21 wizzyrea wouldn't try it ;) 15:21 * library_systems_guy wonders if he can submit a patch with no bug 15:21 reiveune bye 15:15 * conan wonders why there are still references to .tmpl in members/moremember.pl 14:41 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6417] Template variable errors in Guided Reports <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6417> 14:20 yhager hi 14:20 talljoy good morning! 14:20 oleonard Hi yhager and talljoy 13:52 sekjal vfernades: what other Searching system preferences to you have? QueryAutoStemming? 13:48 vfernades noone can help me? 13:44 magnuse see ya later #koha 13:40 kf conan: have you pushed the fine in days things? 13:40 vfernades it still returns "I.103" when the search is "S.103" 13:39 vfernades :/ 13:39 vfernades the reindex didn't work 13:28 Brooke druthb++ 13:27 conan the strange part is that I have the same change working on another VM (!) 13:27 conan I'm getting a strange error, I got this line use C4::Overdues qw(checkoverdues); however I get this error: moremember.pl: Undefined subroutine &C4::Circulation::checkoverdues called at /home/koha.3.4.x/C4/Circulation.pm 13:25 vfernades let's see... it already reindexing... 13:24 magnuse i don't think that is necessary, but it shouldn't hurt either.... 13:21 vfernades ok i'll try to rebuild the zebra index 13:21 hilongo I don't know if the zebra index has to be rebuilt after turning the preferences off.... 13:21 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6120] Add search links in detail pages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6120> 13:19 vfernades maybe the . are escaped from the search 13:19 vfernades but with them off the result are the same 13:18 vfernades yes they are... 13:17 hilongo vfernandes: maybe QueryFuzzy or QueryStemming are 'on' in System Preferences ... :) 13:17 magnuse hm, because QueryFuzzy is turned on? 13:14 vfernades one question: why adv search on Staff Client when searchin for call number (SI.103) gives non accurate results (MI.103, HI.103)? 13:08 vfernades hi koha commnuity :) 13:03 * magnuse isn't sure he wants his pizza dough to be mean... ;-) 13:00 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5714] Unescaped ampersands in OPAC facets <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5714> 12:57 Brooke woe that I can no longer find Viva yeast, and haven't been able to for years. 12:57 * Brooke makes a mean pizza dough. 12:53 * magnus_lunch wanders off to make pizza dough 12:52 wahanui git-bz is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 12:52 oleonard git-bz? 12:51 magnus_lunch huh? 12:47 kf magnuse++ 12:21 paul_p good morning oleonard & others 12:17 * oleonard wonders what's up for today 12:14 kf hi oleonard :) 12:11 Brooke Good Morning, Mr. Leonard. 12:11 oleonard Hi #koha 11:55 hdl and yours ? 11:54 Brooke wunderbar. 11:54 hdl mine is in October 11:54 hdl mmm huginn` don't be so rude... I am a frenchy 11:54 Brooke is it yours today hdl? 11:53 huginn` hdl: I suck 11:53 hdl @bday Brooke 11:50 Brooke hola! 11:49 conan hello everyone 11:46 * Brooke suspects she blew right by rosa's with no word. 11:46 Brooke way more important to observe actual human bdays 11:46 Brooke pfft 11:45 * kf wonders when hugin's and wahanui's birhdays are 11:45 kf long 11:30 * Brooke whistles. 11:29 druthb Two years? 11:29 huginn` druthb: Quote #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs lotion" (added by gmcharlt at 03:05 AM, May 31, 2009) 11:29 druthb @quote get 1 11:29 hdl seems the quote base was reset quite recently 11:29 druthb oh. :) 11:29 huginn` druthb: Quote #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one does not bask in the Potomac River basin...you melt or swelter or something, but you don't bask. :P" (added by jwagner at 01:17 PM, January 24, 2011) 11:29 druthb @quote get 117 11:29 druthb ? 11:28 huginn` hdl1: No matching quotes were found. 11:28 hdl1 @quote search hdl 11:28 hdl1 only ? 11:28 huginn` hdl1: 2 found: #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" and #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one..." 11:28 hdl1 @quote search druthb 11:26 * Brooke juggles for the developers' amusement. 11:26 Brooke hehehe 11:25 druthb lol 11:25 huginn` druthb: 1 found: #104: "<Brooke> not people quoting me *again*" 11:25 druthb @quote search Brooke 11:25 druthb hm. 11:25 huginn` druthb: 2 found: #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon..." and #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!" 11:25 druthb @quote search bacon 11:25 huginn` hdl1: 1 found: #138: "gmcharlt will nobody think of the lurkers?..." 11:25 hdl1 @quote search lurkers 11:25 huginn` hdl1: 2 found: #103: "<cait>: Nobody can find you hiding in Search.pm ;)" and #138: "gmcharlt will nobody think of the lurkers?..." 11:25 hdl1 @quote search nobody 11:20 Brooke ahah have to grep 11:20 huginn` druthb: Quote #138: "gmcharlt will nobody think of the lurkers? talk, talk already! ;)" (added by Brooke at 11:23 AM, May 27, 2011) 11:20 druthb @quote get 138 11:19 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 11:19 huginn` Brooke: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 11:19 Brooke @quote 138 11:19 huginn` Brooke: The operation succeeded. Quote #138 added. 11:19 Brooke @quote add gmcharlt will nobody think of the lurkers? talk, talk already! ;) 11:00 druthb Hi, Magnus! 10:59 magnus_lunch o/ 10:53 druthb :) 10:53 kf hi druthb 10:45 * Brooke goes to fish out some waffles. 10:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6370 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , news showing that it's for the opac when it's for the librarian interface 10:36 jenkins_koha Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6370 - news showing that it's for the opac when it's for the librarian interface 10:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #263: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/263/ 10:20 druthb o/ 10:20 druthb ! 10:20 Brooke 0/ 10:06 slef ok, thanks all. At least I know a bit more now :) 10:05 kf time for lunch 10:05 kf hm 10:04 kf when you get records from your vendor with EDI - why would those sh be on item level? 10:03 kf slef: no subject headings on item level I think - it seems strange to me too 10:03 hdl1 ;) 10:03 hdl1 I would not dare to say something... 10:03 hdl1 slef: :X 10:01 slef Brooke: is this something koha supports already? 10:01 Brooke as an aside: the stranger an itemtype is, the more like it is to have crappy sh 10:00 Brooke there are a mess of video sh that aren't present for fiction, for instance 10:00 slef hdl1: I was on a teleconference about EDI. Most of the debate was about how to communicate subject headings in EDI item data. I don't understand the use case for that. 10:00 Brooke it could also affect the alt authors 09:59 Brooke it could 09:59 slef Brooke: different media types doesn't change the subject heading, does it? 09:53 hdl1 slef: can you explain ? 09:53 jenkins_koha Starting build 263 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 09:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6351 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , Cannot delete library-specific circulation rules 09:53 jenkins_koha D Ruth Bavousett: Bug 6351: Unable to delete branch-specific circulation rule 09:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #262: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/262/ 09:52 Brooke there are also different media types 09:47 slef I wondered if it is so that subject-divided libraries can order copies for each subject area, but why not just use unique identifiers to track the items and orders? 09:45 * Brooke suspects that the answer begins with coz a record is meant to have 3 parts like Gaul. 09:40 slef ok, I'm doing a bit more EDI work. Can anyone tell me why subject headings would be communicated at an item level instead of a biblio one? 09:25 rangi yeah that might be worth filing a bug for 09:25 rangi ah interesting 09:24 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6370 - news showing that it's for the opac when it's for the librarian... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=28eca1ec926e2971cf20d1ce18dafe6896fb7db8> 09:23 magnuse bbl 09:22 magnuse well, i logged in as root and did "DROP USER 'koha_demo'@'%'" and got the same error, but when i replaced % with localhost it worked 09:20 rangi it might be the user there doesnt have drop user rights 09:20 rangi it uses the user in the config file in /etc/mysql/ 09:19 magnuse when i log in to mysql as root i get the same message, but "DROP USER 'koha_demo'@'localhost'" seems to work 09:18 magnuse rangi: i may have found a problem with koha-remove: when i do "sudo koha-remove demo" i get "ERROR 1396 (HY000): Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_demo'@'%'" 09:18 * Brooke thinks arrays are bringing sechsy back. 09:17 magnuse thanks, rangi 09:13 rangi magnuse: you assume right 09:13 Brooke 0/ 09:11 magnuse hm, i assume the mysql password created by koha-create is random, so the only way to log in for the first time is to check /etc/koha/sites/mylibrary/koha-conf.xml? 09:11 jenkins_koha Starting build 262 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 09:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml 09:11 jenkins_koha ruth@bywatersolutions.com: Bug 5579: further fancifying remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl 09:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #261: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/261/ 09:04 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6351: Unable to delete branch-specific circulation rule <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eba64bf25d8da0f091ce0b5d8329385638fb1fe1> 08:52 Irma hi magnuse ... 08:52 magnuse g'day Irma 08:51 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0�C (10:20 AM CEST on May 27, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 08:51 magnuse @wunder boo 08:51 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.5�C (10:50 AM CEST on May 27, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). 08:51 kf @wunder Konstanz 08:32 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5579' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=30dc7ed25b14775819320106d1c0479f990a6a8c> / Bug 5579: further fancifying remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=32d153c513cdc616d17ff2eaad83335b33db3606> 08:29 magnuse thanks 08:29 rangi yep 08:29 magnuse or rather: with sudo 08:28 magnuse rangi or eythian: koha-create should be run as root, right? 08:28 jenkins_koha Starting build 261 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 08:28 magnuse bonjour alex_a 08:28 alex_a hallo magnuse 08:27 magnuse guten tag kf 08:27 kf hi magnuse 08:27 magnuse kia ora #koha 08:21 kf paul_p: that's what I wrote to mason, noone can prevent htem from not checkout out things or do that stunt in the library, there is always a way to steal a book 08:21 rangi those kinda things would be neat and not hard to do 08:20 rangi you could click on a book and reserve it in koha 08:20 rangi be nice in moodle, if you had a recommended reading list for a course 08:19 kf can you pm me her email address? 08:19 kf and you can do that with koha easily, I only wondered if I am missing other ideas or points 08:19 kf we got requests in the past for links from moodle/others to catalog searches and detail pages 08:18 kf he looks for all kind of integration 08:18 kf slef, paul_p and all: I have a student writing a bachelor thesis asking :) 08:18 rangi kf you could mail her, and ask her in german, she would enjoy that :) 08:18 rangi but ill ask kristina 08:18 * rangi isnt on the elearning team 08:17 rangi to search any sru/sw 08:17 rangi but then we generalised it 08:17 rangi that lets you search koha from inside moodle 08:17 rangi one of the students wrote a moodle bloc 08:17 slef kf: I think we hacked a moodle to auth from koha but it wasn't pretty. 08:17 paul_p and we can't avoid this : if you've self-checkout, then you trust your patrons anyway ! 08:16 slef kf: how would you see it integrating? You can catalogue moodle courses anyway. 08:16 rangi where you can trust your users not to steal :) 08:16 rangi for corporate/special libraries etc 08:16 paul_p I agree 08:16 rangi not a bug, its something switched on 08:16 rangi yeah 08:16 kf about mason's question on list, I think the problem is AutoSelfCheckAllowed? 08:15 kf hehe 08:15 rangi its anything but simple 08:15 kf it's not simple? 08:15 kf but it's not really integrating, is it? when you authenticate both from the same source outside of koha? 08:15 rangi simple saml is an oxymoron 08:15 kf yeah 08:15 rangi you could do it with cas too 08:15 kf interesting :) 08:15 kf saml 08:15 rangi weve done it with simple saml 08:14 slef kf: my colleague has done some moodle/koha integration. I think the key step to simplify it is to drive both from LDAP 08:14 francharb :) 08:13 kf bots++ :) 08:13 slef francharb: there's a logger, a factoid one, a pastebot and a multi-purpose one 08:13 francharb ;) 08:13 kf someone an idea about moodle / ilias /stup ip / other software like those integration with koha? 08:13 francharb i thought everyone was asleep... 08:13 kf more people here than I thought 08:13 kf hi slef 08:12 slef morning all 08:12 kf hi paul_p 08:12 rangi hi paul_p 08:11 paul_p hello world ! 07:20 francharb + those undercover... 07:19 francharb pastebot 07:19 francharb how many bots do you have guys? 07:19 wahanui i heard logbot was here 07:19 francharb ? 07:18 huginn` francharb: huginn` has neutral karma. 07:18 francharb @karma huginn` 07:18 huginn` francharb: Karma for "wahanui" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. 07:18 francharb @karma wahanui 07:17 alex_a wahanui++ 07:17 alex_a lol 07:17 alex_a + 07:17 alex_a wahanui+ 07:17 francharb wahanui++ 07:17 francharb is wahanui grateful if you ++ him? 07:15 alex_a francharb, reiveune, you are lucky. wahanui never greets me 07:11 reiveune :) 07:11 francharb thanks 07:11 francharb oki 07:10 reiveune francharb: (08:34:55) cait: be careful, wahanui is our chatbot 07:09 francharb ? 07:08 reiveune francharb: fait gaffe, wahanui semble être un bot 06:53 francharb hello wahanui 06:53 wahanui bonjour, francharb 06:53 francharb hi 06:53 pianohacker bed! 06:40 sophie_m hello #koha 06:33 reiveune thx cait 06:31 cait ah, I guess you know that already 06:31 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.0�C (8:30 AM CEST on May 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady). 06:31 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:31 cait be careful, wahanui is our chatbot 06:30 cait hi reiveune :) 06:29 reiveune :) 06:29 wahanui hola, reiveune 06:29 reiveune bonjour wahanui 06:29 wahanui hola, reiveune 06:29 reiveune hello 06:28 cait hi alex_a and Ropuch 06:27 Ropuch Morning #koha 06:23 alex_a good morning 05:55 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6415] Can't make a patron card batch <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6415> 05:36 cait bonjour sophie_m 05:23 * cait gets ready for a little early in the morning bug wrangling 05:12 cait ah, probably not his thing 05:12 cait pastebot botsnack cookie 04:57 cait good morning pastebot ;) 04:50 cait hi fredericd :) 04:46 fredericd morning 04:42 cait hi rangi :) 04:37 * rangi waves 04:29 cait hi bg :) 04:27 bg heya cait 04:27 cait good morning #koha 03:50 eythian that'd be worthwhile 03:47 mtj i've always been meaning to do a munin plugin for Koha circ and zebra stats 03:37 eythian e.g.: ZEBRAQUEUE CRITICAL - 1 delayed >5 min, 1 delayed >1 min, 1 total waiting 03:36 eythian ibeardslee: yeah, building some custom plugins 03:36 ibeardslee eythian: special hooks into nagios etc? 03:35 wizzyrea eythian: great idea 03:35 * Oak waves 03:35 eythian especially the more subtle errors, like rebuild_zebra not happening. 03:35 eythian I'm building a system so that a Koha system can be properly monitored, and notifications sent if things aren't responding like they should be. 03:33 wizzyrea sneeky sneeky 03:32 * eythian now has a nagios task to ensure that your zebra queue is being regularly reindexed. 01:20 library_guy not unless it close to a release :p 01:20 gmcharlt we don't bite! (much) ;) 01:19 library_guy ililiaq helped me out when I first started using Koha and was too scared to come talk to you guys on the IRC 01:18 library_guy its a name ive had since HS 01:18 library_guy elliemaenator 01:18 gmcharlt so are you elliemaenator or iluliaq there? 01:17 library_guy Thought it would be cool if a lot of people were on it 01:16 library_guy http://www.reddit.com/r/Koha 01:16 library_guy but its just me and one other person 01:16 gmcharlt cool. linky? 01:16 library_guy I started a Koha board on there 01:15 gmcharlt not really. why do you ask? 01:15 library_guy gmcharlt do you read reddit? 01:10 library_guy Academic universities never make things simple 01:10 library_guy darn... 01:10 gmcharlt not I 01:09 library_guy has anybody had to set up email on a debain system that had to go through exchange? 01:04 library_guy lol gmcharlt 01:00 gmcharlt will nobody think of the lurkers? talk, talk already! ;) 01:00 gmcharlt library_guy: a slightly bored lurker, perhaps 00:51 library_guy aww man i forgot to log out at work 00:51 library_guy does anybody else feel like a lurker just sitting watching the IRC when nobody is talking 00:28 glernil good day!