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23:51 Soupermanito :D thats why i want to learn about it :D
23:50 Soupermanito :) a lot of universities in argentina are starting to use koha
23:48 rangi http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/schedule/#day1
23:43 Soupermanito i've also found this http://hubpages.com/hub/Install-Koha-on-Ubuntu
23:43 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_Up_Koha_in_Virtual_Environment_%2B_Using_That_as_a_Development_Environment <-- Soupermanito, maybe this'll get you somewhere.
23:42 Soupermanito yes i noticed that
23:42 Soupermanito :)
23:42 pianohacker Soupermanito: that's very doable. You don't even need virtual machines as clients, since a Koha client is just a web browser
23:38 Soupermanito so i was hoping to learn to install it and configure it using a simple network i have at this box, whit some virtual machines as clients and stuff like that
23:37 Soupermanito to add that to my resum� XD
23:37 Soupermanito oh :D ok, ahm hello people then, I am a library science student and i wanted to learn to use and configure koha
23:36 rangi wahanui is a bot, it doesnt really speak any language
23:35 Soupermanito :D hablan espa�ol?
23:35 Soupermanito hola!
23:35 wahanui hola, Soupermanito
23:35 Soupermanito well hello
23:34 Soup oh :D hello
23:29 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6258 - Guided reports wizard 'Build new' brings up empty page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=14364d9866dd65abb737a59e49f297328edde83d>
23:28 jenkins_koha Starting build 259 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3140 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , It is possible to email someone else's private list
22:57 jenkins_koha Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3140 - It is possible to email someone else's private list
22:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #258: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/258/
22:55 rhcl Oh, after one hour I'm sure I'd walk out... :)
22:54 rhcl makefile is apparently just a list of all the perl modules and stuff included (images, etc) in the final Koha build
22:54 eythian 1 hour is a bit short. It seems like a 1 week presentation would start to fit most of it :)
22:53 rhcl the next kohacon I go to I want somebody to do a full 1 hour presentation on what it's doing.
22:53 eythian (disclaimer: I haven't the foggiest idea of how MakeMaker works, just that it exists)
22:52 eythian it's probably started with MakeMaker
22:52 rangi its moving templtaes round, populating config files etc
22:49 pianohacker rhcl: according to git log Makefile.PL, slef started it, and he's the local perl wizard
22:48 rhcl It seems to do a heck of a lot of stuff for a non-compiled language
22:47 rhcl who wrote Makefile.PL?
22:46 cait good night #koha
22:16 cait :)
22:15 rangi yay
22:14 jenkins_koha Starting build 258 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6395 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , cannot create routing list - template error?
22:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6343 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Label Creator not working , Current Branch: NULL
22:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5658 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, fridolyn.somers, ASSIGNED , can't delete subfields in frameworks
22:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6401 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, NEW , Give Ian Walls credit in the history file.
22:14 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6395, Cannot create routing list
22:14 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6343: TT issues in label creator
22:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3580 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Control order in which facet categories display
22:14 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 5658 can't delete subfields in frameworks
22:14 jenkins_koha * ruth@bywatersolutions.com: Bug 6401 fix to the history file
22:14 jenkins_koha * Frédérick Capovilla: Bug 3580 Sort the facets categories so they don't move every search.
22:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #257: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/257/
21:56 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 3140 - It is possible to email someone else's private list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b65f6d0a99dc13e73aed5058a44a72895c829b32>
21:48 pianohacker good to be back
21:48 pianohacker thanks wizzy :)
21:45 wizzyrea h its nice to haveph around again :)
21:44 Space_Librarian did I not feed jenkins enough cookies last night? sorry. ;)
21:43 jenkins_koha pianohacker: great! yum yum. I just love RAM!
21:43 pianohacker !jenkins botsnack RAM
21:40 jenkins_koha cait: you're so kind to me! I could eat lots of cookies all day long
21:40 cait !jenkins botsnack lots of cookies
21:39 cait hungry jenkins
21:36 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6395, Cannot create routing list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5984520211337750fbae0fe5a5fcba7cb85bf212> / Bug 6343: TT issues in label creator <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f515052d6e2a41f0a84b2999204691a84ebe78e1> / Bug 5658 can't delete subfields in frameworks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fafbff9018ecc4030983ca14
21:36 rangi i think its under control again now
21:35 rangi oh look you have ram, let me use ALL OF IT
21:35 rangi java
21:35 rangi yeah
21:35 cait unhappy jenkins?
21:31 jenkins_koha Starting build 257 for job Koha_master (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #255 1 j 19 h ago)
21:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #256: ABORTED in 3 mn 38 s: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/256/
21:27 cait gmcharlt: good to know!
21:25 NCARMichael it works! yet another thanks, galen. (and pianohacker!)
21:24 gmcharlt at least in 5.1
21:24 gmcharlt no, I'm still wrong, it likes that
21:23 cait I think you are right about htat
21:23 gmcharlt now I remember, I think it's group by 1 that mysql doesn't do
21:23 gmcharlt ...
21:23 gmcharlt cait: indeed; for some reason I was under the mistaken impression that mysql didn't support that yet
21:20 cait distance_study_sql_course++
21:20 cait hehe
21:20 cait does work for me
21:20 cait n
21:20 cait for first colum
21:20 pianohacker cait++ # Never heard of that before, but it works
21:19 cait you could try order by 1
21:18 pianohacker gmcharlt: So there's specifically a problem with aliasing the results of functions? That's frustrating, thanks for figuring it out
21:16 * wizzyrea is happy to see joins instead of left joins
21:16 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 68.101.78.67 pasted "NCARMichael: this version works" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/67
21:15 gmcharlt NCARMichael: turns out it didn't like the aliasing of 'title' in the order by clause
21:10 pianohacker NCARMichael: Is it feasible for you to check your error log?
21:10 sekjal later Space_Librarian, rangi, #koha!
21:10 rangi cya
21:10 Space_Librarian :)
21:10 Space_Librarian ciao sekjal
21:09 sekjal 'bye sekjal' is more appropriate now... I've got to dash
21:09 Space_Librarian hehehe. :)
21:09 rangi Space_Librarian even
21:09 rangi gah
21:09 rangi hi sekjal
21:07 Space_Librarian morning #koha
21:07 pianohacker NCARMichael: I'm really not sure why that's breaking it, sorry
21:07 rhcl yep, absolutely the best hardware known to humankind, but noisy. Sad situation now that Sun has departed.
21:05 rangi yeah
21:05 slef sounds like the suns I remember
21:05 rhcl My poor tech assistant, a college student, bought one for himself in all his excitement over such a great find. He can't use it since he has to keep it in his bedroom and it's too noisy for anyone in the house to stand. :)
21:04 rangi rhcl: noisy?
21:04 rangi i wonder if i could bring a couple back in my suitcase
21:03 rhcl no, it's used, surely no money to Oracle, and we even used Deb instead of Solaris
21:03 slef rhcl: does buying that fund oracle? ;)
21:03 rhcl oh, and it looks like the current batch only has 4gb, ours has 8. Looks like we bought at the right time.
21:02 pianohacker looking at the code now
21:02 pianohacker gmcharlt: you're right, it doesn't make sense
21:01 gmcharlt pianohacker: it isn't adding an order by automatically to SQL reports. how would it even guess?
21:01 rhcl https://www.andovercg.com/store/Sun-SunFire-Fire-V20z-Dual-2-2Ghz-4GB-Server-p1136.html
21:01 rhcl speaking of servers, we got one of these and are using it for our Koha test machine. Very happy with it so far. 'cept they've raised the price, our's was $69.
21:00 NCARMichael but i'm not using guided reports...
20:59 rangi to edit the patch
20:59 pianohacker the guided reports wizard is likely adding its own ORDER BY, which doesn't work
20:58 rangi you can use -e
20:58 pianohacker NCARMichael: Adding ORDER BY TITLE is valid SQL
20:58 rangi this is cool too
20:58 wizzyrea kool
20:58 rangi yes
20:58 rangi that will attach the latest commit, to the bug
20:58 wizzyrea how does it know who you are? based on firrefox cookie?
20:58 rangi sorry git bz attach
20:57 NCARMichael pianohacker: r u sure it's a bug? pages work fine on custom report UNLESS i add "order by title"
20:57 rangi git attach bz bugnumber HEAD
20:57 slef gmcharlt: too many customers... need more space for dev work... nothing to worry about... just need the research server to come online in a few days
20:57 rangi you make a commit
20:57 rangi is on your branch
20:57 rangi so what you do
20:56 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6401 fix to the history file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=59e9137d8339de68f2cc4c7dcc60f4e2d7fbea43> / Bug 3580 Sort the facets categories so they don't move every search. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d4ab0ecb65dd92f785b062e2dbe920bc8e1bfcf>
20:55 gmcharlt slef: what happened?
20:55 wizzyrea you can use gitbz to attach patches to bugs as well
20:55 slef I need more servers again :(
20:55 cait wizzyrea ? :)
20:54 wizzyrea ?
20:53 wizzyrea was there more to do for pushing up patches
20:53 rangi yay
20:53 cait wizzyrea++
20:53 cait rangi: got git-bz working with liz help :)
20:52 NCARMichael yes, custom SQL.
20:48 rangi sounds like a good plan to me
20:47 sekjal rangi: most of the ones in the Passed QA queue right now are easy... I started with ones I could do by reading
20:47 rangi thats an easy push :)
20:47 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6401 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, NEW , Give Ian Walls credit in the history file.
20:47 rangi bug 6401
20:47 rangi heh
20:45 sekjal I'll see both in the QA process
20:45 sekjal either place is fine by me
20:45 cait sekjal: better to note on bug in the commit message or in bugzilla?
20:45 pianohacker NCARMichael: accursed thing. This is being run through the custom SQL part of the guided reports wizard, right?
20:44 cait I try :)
20:44 cait oh
20:44 NCARMichael pages only disappeared once i added "ORDER BY TITLE"
20:43 sekjal (pushing through QA right now)
20:43 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6340 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Pagination bar on guided reports result page broken
20:43 sekjal cait: for the test plan included with bug 6340
20:43 wizzyrea well you're awesome of course
20:43 cait yeah, wahanui - I KNOW - but why is he giving mekarma?
20:42 Brooke tee hee!
20:42 wahanui sekjal is a wonderful geek.
20:42 cait sekjal?
20:42 slef dinner still cooking :)
20:42 cait does never show up
20:42 cait there were 2 bugs, the pagination bar in 3.4.1 is still broken I think
20:42 sekjal cait++
20:41 wizzyrea I just download those :P
20:41 wizzyrea that's been a bug for a while
20:41 wizzyrea actually no, probably not
20:41 NCARMichael i wonder if this has anything to do with galen's recent patch for the pages bug...
20:40 NCARMichael uh oh. now it gives me only one page.
20:39 pianohacker np
20:38 NCARMichael oh. duh. thx!
20:37 larryb Hi there.
20:37 rangi heya larryb
20:36 Brooke 0/
20:36 pianohacker I think you should be able to just tack on an ORDER BY TITLE to the end of that
20:36 NCARMichael anyone? Bueller?
20:35 NCARMichael question: how to order results by title (asc)
20:34 NCARMichael http://paste.koha-community.org/65?tx=on&submit=Format+it!
20:34 NCARMichael allo again. more reports...
20:33 cait w
20:33 cait rangi: see your mail no
20:32 rangi cool
20:32 rangi then grab any simple ones out of signed off (one line TT changes and the like)
20:32 cait go and greetings to S :)
20:32 sekjal apparently, I'm dyslexic for bug numbers
20:32 rangi ill clear my passed qa queue first
20:32 slef yeaaaaah
20:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6395 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , cannot create routing list - template error?
20:32 sekjal bug 6395
20:32 rhcl :)
20:32 rhcl slef isn't going to get anything to eat...stays on irc
20:32 slef bug -1
20:31 rangi :)
20:31 sekjal that's not the right number
20:31 sekjal wait
20:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6359 minor, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , number one printing on quick label page
20:31 slef Brooke: what would you make of a flat roofing contractor?
20:31 sekjal rangi: sounds great. working on bug 6359 right now
20:31 rangi sekjal: sound like an ok idea?
20:31 Brooke hey, mebbe I like biting lions.
20:31 rangi sekjal: i was going to jump into the signed off queue and grab any of the little TT bugs
20:30 rhcl hehe
20:30 slef outlaw the lion biting people... that's the EU solution :-S
20:30 rhcl that's real target reduction
20:30 cait rangi: don#t see yourmail?
20:30 rhcl shoot the lion?
20:30 rangi just faster than the guy next to you
20:30 sekjal rangi: shoot
20:30 rangi you dont have to run faster than the lion
20:30 rangi rhcl: all security is target reduction, not absolutes
20:29 rangi sekjal: i have a question for ya
20:29 slef now really dinner :)
20:29 rhcl slef: no, but I'm not a very persistent peep. I'm not really making any effort to really look up personal info on her.
20:29 slef and urgh, someone reply to mbreeding before I do please... he's comparing libwebcats with the wiki instead of the suggested optionally-anonymised popcon.
20:29 rangi heh sekjal and I both replied at the same time to bev
20:29 Brooke you'd be amazed at how buried some duhrectors can make things
20:28 rhcl but there is a lot of data associating your nick with your real name...but my thought is that we generally regard contact info (official business info) for things like library directors as open knowledge here in the US.
20:28 slef rhcl: and home?
20:27 pianohacker routers-- # one hell of a day for tech
20:27 sekjal slef: dropping the 's' at the end of my name gives much worse results, in my finding. more common, that iteration of the name
20:27 cait for our new homepage anyway and which information I wanted to show there
20:27 Brooke it's two different worlds if you put in just my first and last name versus the name I publish under.
20:26 cait I had to sign a paper
20:26 cait yep
20:25 rhcl yea
20:25 cait on our institution's hp?
20:25 rhcl Well, I'm finding info on Katrin Fisher, including work contact info, but maybe I'm missing the point
20:25 wizzyrea rea is just short
20:25 wizzyrea ;)
20:25 wizzyrea elizabeth vs. liz
20:24 slef dinnertime bbl
20:24 slef wizzyrea: what's rea short for?
20:24 slef sekjal: yeah, search engines keep singularising your name, I see now :-/
20:22 rangi http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/ird-cloud-alert-no-issue-were-talking-says-xero?Opendocument&HighLight=2,IRD
20:22 rangi the tax department wasnt happy with them
20:21 rangi here xero got in trouble for storing peoples data overseas
20:20 wizzyrea there are several of my short name, not sure how many in long form
20:18 sekjal slef: I think there are only two of me in the US... the third is recently deceased (the author of gardening books)
20:18 Brooke oi, that's my gig.
20:18 cait same for me I fear :)
20:18 slef I think you're hiding by having a common name!
20:17 cait sekjal: yes, they are not allowed to give data out to a third party and the person giving the data can make a request to see all the data they have saved
20:17 slef bah it would help if I remembered which state you're in :)
20:17 * cait feels weird
20:16 sekjal slef: I think you'll have an easy time of it
20:16 cait huh?
20:16 * slef tries to find sekjal
20:16 slef sekjal: try to find Cait.
20:16 slef sekjal: mainly for things that give credit or hold money I think. And yes, always protected as default.
20:16 Brooke be damned if you can't find duplicated info elsewhere, minus the checkout data, of course.
20:15 Brooke our info is technically protected to under your jurisdiction
20:15 Brooke "Oh, this is abuse? I wanted an argument!"
20:14 sekjal and is that data always protected under the law?
20:14 slef Brooke: next council up. I'm only advisory on zoning.
20:14 sekjal how often do you have to provide address/phone/email info to sign up for services in the EU?
20:14 * Brooke rings slef up angrily with a zoning dispute.
20:13 cait I had mine deleted some time ago, should check again
20:13 slef oh wait, one is because I'm a councillor
20:13 slef heh, yeah, my personal phone numbers aren't listed
20:13 cait sekjal: there are phone books, but you don't have to get listed
20:13 slef sekjal: it depends. For someone like me, the Distance Selling Regulations and so on means I'm findable.
20:13 Ropuch Evening #koha
20:12 cait and once we have some templates it will get easier I hope
20:12 cait the paperwork for privacy laws is driving me insane. but I understand why we do it
20:12 sekjal is it any harder to find European folks addresses than Americans'?
20:12 slef UK privacy is http://www.ico.gov.uk/for_organisations/data_protection/the_guide/the_principles.aspx
20:12 cait yep, exactly
20:10 slef also, the cloud = USA often = out of our laws
20:10 cait having patron data somewhere in the cloud
20:10 cait and a reason why people here don't get excited about web scale
20:10 rangi ok my stop back soon
20:09 cait and a whole lot of existing email addresses... you can even sell that for good money
20:09 slef now you see, this is why it's a criminal offence to transfer personal data from the EU to the USA without safeguards ;-)
20:09 cait a lot of people here do not list their phone numbers publicly
20:09 sekjal slef: ok, that definitely overrules my considerations for a very large geographical area
20:09 cait not of patrons
20:09 slef rangi: yeah, those were some other things I waved at quickly (things like...) and ran away from this time ;-)
20:09 cait sekjal: um no
20:08 slef sekjal: EU laws disagree.
20:08 rangi and only 1 vendor per lib etc
20:08 rangi and the fact it conflates vendor with software
20:08 sekjal slef: I consider addresses, phone numbers and emails to be public knowledge
20:07 slef sekjal: home address, payment details, ...
20:07 rangi its the terms of use
20:07 rangi but my main issue isn't the social engineering bit
20:07 sekjal and then you'd be able to extract patron reading history
20:07 slef I've just checked 3 of our libraries: 2 name one librarian (not the director) and 1 names no-one.
20:06 rangi one doesn't work, u have thousands more to try
20:06 cait I think some big libraries do it different, but the small ones all do afaik
20:06 rangi sekjal: thats where a nice big list is handy
20:05 cait slef: it's normal here that the team with names and work areas are listed
20:05 sekjal I don't have stats on how often that's true...
20:05 sekjal would only work if the library worker knew who the support company was
20:05 rangi it happens a lot more than ppl think
20:05 slef cait: library directors are not listed on homepages in many cases here AIUI. If you are lucky, one librarian may be named. I'm surprised it's different for you: I thought we shared the same privacy laws?
20:05 sekjal slef: yes, better exploit
20:05 rangi done well, breach would never be noticed/reported
20:04 slef sekjal: no, to call a library worker, claiming to be from the support company, invoking the library director's name if they doubt it.
20:04 cait sure it makes it easier to have the information already in a nice database, but it's not hard to get that info for someone who wants it
20:03 cait and library directors are listed on homepages
20:03 sekjal so would the exploit be to call the library director and claim to be from the support company, asking for passwords?
20:03 cait for the proprietary systems support provider = software
20:03 slef cait: but library director names, support provider names?
20:03 cait and someone from the field can findout the software you are using by looking at the opac pretty easily
20:02 cait everybody can find out a library address
20:02 cait I think it's perhaps important how much information you have there
20:02 slef sekjal: IOW no, not yet.
20:02 slef sekjal: people tend not to be open about successful security exploits.
20:01 sekjal slef: I think I get where you're going with the Social Engineering concerns, but I'm missing the crucial piece of being worried. do you have any cases yet of bad guys attempting to use the info on libwebcats to steal patron data?
19:59 slef just checking
19:58 slef :)
19:58 wahanui i guess odc-by is http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/
19:58 slef odc-by?
19:58 slef odc-by is http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/
19:58 slef If ODC-BY is WorldCat-clickwrap-(AIUI)-compatible, that seems like a bug to me.
19:58 cait odc-by?
19:57 slef That makes little sense.
19:57 rangi gah
19:57 slef They're going to adopt ODC-BY for WorldCat *alongside* the current usage policy, according to latest emails.
19:57 rangi they did?
19:57 slef Anyway, after trying to send my most patient explanation (I failed), I then got bad news about OCLC's adoption of ODC-By
19:56 slef ...paved with good intentions :(
19:55 rangi I do think he thinks he is doing good
19:55 slef sekjal: yeah, I know people who wanted to insert Britney Spears, but think the time for such things is passed.
19:55 rangi I think he probably hasn't
19:55 * sekjal struggles not to insert a Britney Spears joke here... the time for such things is passed
19:55 slef can he really not have realised libwebcats is a huge conman's streetmap?
19:54 slef he winds me up
19:54 slef tweaked mbreeding
19:53 rangi ?
19:51 slef oops I did it again
19:49 sekjal what?! it's GORGEOUS outside
19:48 bg yeah 25 is too hot
19:47 sekjal bg: I think I have you beat, amazingly
19:46 huginn` sekjal: The current temperature in Plain Road East, South Deerfield, Massachusetts is 25.0�C (3:35 PM EDT on May 25, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady).
19:46 sekjal @wunder 01373
19:46 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (7:35 AM NZST on May 26, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Rising).
19:46 rangi @wunder wellington nz
19:45 rangi its rainy out there
19:43 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 17.6�C (2:47 PM CDT on May 25, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.41 in 995.8 hPa (Steady).
19:43 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks
19:43 cait almost as warm as in california - I bet we had 19.7 at your time :)
19:42 cait hi bg :)
19:40 bg heya cait
19:40 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.2�C (9:40 PM CEST on May 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Steady).
19:40 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:39 huginn` bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.7�C (12:43 PM PDT on May 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady).
19:39 bg @wunder 93109
19:39 adnc ;)
19:37 cait perhaps you want to try :)
19:37 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6361 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Packages need support for the 3.4 upgrade
19:37 cait bug 6361
19:37 adnc thanks for the info
19:37 adnc hi cait
19:37 cait wizzyrea++
19:36 cait adnc: I think there is apatch that needs to be tested for the packages
19:32 adnc rangi any news about koha 3.4 for debian?
19:31 rangi bbiab
19:31 rangi off to catch the bus
19:30 rangi :)
19:30 wizzyrea *nod* when I get back to work proper tomorrow
19:30 rangi wizzyrea is going to put her notes on the wiki i am sure
19:29 rangi (it works for standard bz, but our path is slightly different, and the bug is in setting hte path variable)
19:29 rangi there is a little bug in the upstream, which ive sent a patch for, but until then if you clone from my repo it works
19:28 wizzyrea ph, i also have pretty good notes on it
19:28 rangi pianohacker: have a look back in the logs
19:27 wahanui hey, Brooke
19:27 Brooke howdy
19:27 cait hi adnc :)
19:27 adnc hello koha
19:24 pianohacker hey, this looks really cool. I thought this was some unholy combo of git and bazaar, but bugzilla integration sounds really useful
19:23 rhcl hihi cait
19:23 cait trying to set up git-bz now :)
19:23 * cait waves
19:23 rhcl yep
19:22 pianohacker but not the most user-friendly way of showing it
19:22 pianohacker probably some issue with the 2048x2048 max screenbuffer size on most intel cards
19:21 rhcl I had to set the resolution to 800 X 600 _before_ connecting the vga cable.
19:21 rhcl Yes Yes! forgot about that. It totally locked up my netbook when I tried that.
19:20 pianohacker But i'll have to check xmonad out
19:20 pianohacker rangi: I... dunno. I like some of the more interesting eyecandy compiz can do
19:20 pianohacker rhcl: Unity almost had a heart attack when I dared put something in my VGA port
19:20 rhcl Yea, I've tried various settings with compiz, but a lot of the effects are annoying so I go back to some very basic things like transparency, which is helpful sometimes. I'm not completely decided on how well I <dis>like Unity. It seems OK on my netbook, but I really like multiple screens.
19:19 rangi just join eythian and I and use xmonad pianohacker :)
19:17 pianohacker If you want to customize compiz at all, things get very twitchy
19:17 pianohacker I really like the feel of it. Either it or the other changes to compiz have made the whole system a bit fragile, though
19:15 rhcl Unity is better now than the first iteration; the first was really flakey, but with some recent updates and a better working knowledge of it it seems to be better.
19:09 pianohacker *sniff*
19:08 * Brooke comforts pianohacker.
19:07 pianohacker one crash too many
19:07 pianohacker Welp, I think I'm about fed up with unity
19:01 NCARMichael it works! thx galen.
18:59 Brooke 0/
18:50 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6409] pagination bar for guided report output does not work if report has parameters <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6409>
18:48 cait I think Space_Librarian and some others tried to register
18:48 gmcharlt NCARMichael: that fix is applied on your database. enjoy
18:47 cait mails fixed?
18:46 gmcharlt :( sorry
18:46 * Brooke wishes that the wiki fairy would come and sort things out for categories and uploads.
18:45 wizzyrea ah k ... lemme see
18:44 cait thx for your sign-off on that :)
18:44 gmcharlt it also needs the patch for 6340 that cait did
18:44 gmcharlt wizzyrea: in that case, mind testing the patch I just submitted?
18:39 wizzyrea *nod* that one bugs me too ;)
18:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6409 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , pagination bar for guided report output does not work if report has parameters
18:38 gmcharlt NCARMichael: @bug 6409
18:25 pianohacker So glad to be on summer vacation
18:25 pianohacker amen
18:25 Brooke hooray for school winding down :D
18:25 Brooke awesome
18:25 pianohacker Pretty good!
18:25 Brooke how are things?
18:24 pianohacker Hey brooke
18:24 Brooke 0/
18:22 gmcharlt NCARMichael: it's a bug; working on fix
18:21 hdl going home
17:58 NCARMichael (going to lunch...back later)
17:58 Brooke 0/
17:56 NCARMichael When I try to go to Page 2 of results, it reruns the report...
17:56 NCARMichael Galen, using http://paste.koha-community.org/62
17:51 Brooke 0/
17:49 Brooke If I had had comp sci profs like gmcharlt, I'd know how to code.
17:48 Brooke galen++
17:48 NCARMichael thx galen
17:39 gmcharlt second is joining the biblio table to get access to biblio.title
17:38 gmcharlt so first one is using another extractvalue, just adding a comma and a column alias name change
17:38 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 68.101.78.67 pasted "NCARMichael: variant 2" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/63
17:37 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 68.101.78.67 pasted "NCARMichael: variant 1" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/62
17:37 Brooke kia ora!
17:17 NCARMichael That's what I've got so far...obviously it's wrong.
17:16 NCARMichael http://paste.koha-community.org/61
17:09 NCARMichael or perhaps add another extract (for 245a)?
17:08 NCARMichael where can I put "biblio.title"?
17:06 NCARMichael Now to add more columns to my results...title, for example.
17:05 NCARMichael This very basic report should prove quite versatile, methinks.
17:04 gmcharlt you're welcome
17:04 NCARMichael Thanks Galen!
17:03 NCARMichael beautiful!
17:02 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 68.101.78.67 pasted "for NCARMichael" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/60
16:54 NCARMichael it's not working, but i think i'm on the right track
16:54 NCARMichael http://paste.koha-community.org/59?tx=on&submit=Format+it!
16:50 NCARMichael anyone?
16:50 NCARMichael okay, more reports questions. :)
16:14 NCARMichael thx
16:14 NCARMichael i'll play around with this for awhile. perhaps it will educate me in the reports dept.
16:13 NCARMichael right, i was just reading that section.
16:12 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Query_MARC
16:11 cait let em find it
16:11 NCARMichael but not all fields have such a coding
16:11 cait you are loooking for something else
16:11 cait no
16:11 cait hm
16:11 NCARMichael Sometimes there are codings for a field (items.itemcallnumber),
16:11 NCARMichael I'm still trying to understand how SQL reports are structured.
16:09 NCARMichael so far all i see are things like this: IF( LOCATE('<datafield tag="020"', (etc)
16:09 NCARMichael yes, i've been scanning the reports library for clues.
16:07 wahanui somebody said reports library was found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library
16:07 cait reports library?
16:07 cait sql library?
16:07 cait how you can parse the marcxml field
16:07 cait there is a hint on the wiki
16:07 NCARMichael How to display a particular marc field as a column in report results?
16:05 cait sekjal++
16:00 cait never seen that I think
16:00 cait um
16:00 slef hi cait. You can't remember what zebrasrv "exited with 1 status" means, can you?
16:00 cait hi #koha
15:58 slef no, I haven't. zebrasrv runs OK from command line now but not from daemon, "exited with 1 status"
15:56 slef aha, I think I've got it
15:56 slef hrm
15:56 slef yaz-client segfaulting on connect
15:56 slef then printing something which confuses the terminal
15:55 slef zebrasrv taking ages to start up
15:55 slef oh I've seen this before. I just don't remember where.
15:54 slef I liked a diveintomark/glynmoody tweet today
15:54 rhcl yea, I went off on that yesterday a little
15:54 slef ah, don't get me started on that
15:54 rhcl apparently as much as overdrive annoys me
15:54 slef because that matters to me
15:54 slef but that's why I work for who I do
15:54 slef it's unethical
15:53 slef seeing libraries weakened to advantage vendors
15:53 slef well, it bloody annoys me
15:53 slef ah, grumbling about libwebcats
15:53 rhcl correction koha-devel list
15:52 rhcl your most recent post to the koha list
15:52 schuster druthb about?
15:51 * slef is getting cross with daemon again
15:51 slef rhcl: what was that about anyway?
15:50 slef I do not own a barbie.
15:49 rhcl I think slef is master of the little barbs, and Nicole and Wizzyrea master of the big barbs.
15:36 magnuse s/ ad / and /
15:36 magnuse "ServerName koha" ad "ServerName <ip>" does not work, there is no fqdn yet, and i'm not responsible for setting it up
15:33 hdl ServerName has to be an fqdn iirc in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
15:32 hdl can't you create one ?
15:31 magnuse hdl: but i don't have a name for it yet...
15:29 magnuse i get "File does not exist: /etc/apache2/htdocs" in error.log even though koha is the only active site and the koha config file makes no mention of that location
15:29 hdl ServerName nameyouwant
15:29 hdl NameVirtualHost IP
15:28 magnuse gmcharlt: alas, it does not ;-)
15:27 kf bye #koha .)
15:25 gmcharlt magnuse: that works
15:24 magnuse hm what should i set ServerName to in the apache config when i'm setting up an installation that only has an ip yet, and no domain name? the ip address?
15:20 Cybermon hi all
15:19 sekjal somewhere between 5000 and 20000 pages, I think
15:18 * magnuse shudders at the mention of screen scraping...
15:17 hdl the 'koha' management of serials seq is quite efficient.... Or has been before we added that javascript on top.
15:16 sekjal it involves screen scraping and XSLT
15:16 sekjal the nightmare is compounded for me today; not only do I have to deal with MFHD, but I've got to do all kinds of crazy stuff to even GET the data in the first place
15:15 hdl and he is quite right
15:15 * oleonard whispers to wahanui that MFHD = Muppets Favor Hairy Data
15:14 wahanui hmmm... mfhd is MARC Format for Holdings Data
15:14 magnuse mfhd?
15:14 magnuse MFHD is MARC Format for Holdings Data
15:13 magnuse ah yes
15:13 sekjal not sure if there is a UNIMARC equivalent
15:13 sekjal I think it's only MARC21
15:13 sekjal MARC Format for Holdings Data
15:13 magnuse mfhd?
15:12 sekjal Evergreen has a few Perl modules that can handle the parsing of MFHD; I'd be interested in finding a way to import them into Koha
15:12 sekjal I'm actually dealing with MFHD and serials holdings right now
15:11 sekjal but Koha doesn't deal with MFHD at all at this time
15:11 NCARMichael okay
15:11 sekjal so you can search the MARC directly
15:11 sekjal and if you're on MySQL 5.1 or greater, there is way to query the XML
15:11 reiveune bye
15:11 sekjal if it was in your incoming MARC records when you imported, you can look at biblioitems.marcxml
15:10 NCARMichael oh
15:10 sekjal NCARMichael: 866a isn't parsed into the Koha database
15:10 NCARMichael maybe it's serials.holdings
15:08 NCARMichael it's a serials report that i'm working on
15:08 NCARMichael biblio.holdings didn't work
15:08 NCARMichael I'm looking for the coding for the 866a field.
15:05 kf my questionmark was referring to your biblio.holdings comment
15:05 kf ah, riddle solved then
15:03 hdl kf: in fact we reused the replacement price to put material information ... And the total is still there.
15:01 wahanui hdl is, like, sure that Croswalking records in zebra is also ram demanding
15:01 kf hdl?
15:00 hdl NCARMichael: biblio.holdings ??? are you looking for items ?
14:59 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6357] Items (un)availability not displayed correctly (OPAC) <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6357>
14:57 kf francharb: a counter for the number of cd's you should have lying around on the desk after all is checked in? :)
14:56 kf trying
14:56 kf tryting to sign-off on the acq things
14:56 kf yep
14:54 francharb :)
14:54 magnuse francharb: we hope so too ;-)
14:53 francharb thanks all
14:53 francharb we are working to get our branch integrated in the community branch. hope it will be done soon!!
14:52 francharb ;)
14:52 francharb but i guess not
14:52 francharb hopefully
14:52 francharb héhé
14:52 kf guessing wildly
14:51 kf perhaps something related to an rfid development?
14:51 kf the only lines with total we have is prive and charge
14:51 kf hm
14:51 francharb ;)
14:51 francharb and i dont know...
14:51 francharb but sophie_m asked me why there is a total row for this column
14:50 francharb kf: i'm using it that way
14:50 francharb too
14:50 francharb kf: i think to
14:50 kf can you look at the source code?
14:50 francharb kf: but i thought it was from the community branch
14:50 kf I would imagine it could be a column for ... "beilagen"... like a cd goes with that book
14:50 francharb :/
14:50 francharb so i dont know if everything is on the community branch...
14:49 kf 2 reasons why we might not see it :(
14:49 francharb kf: it's 3.06.00.029 but it's on biblibre branch
14:49 kf which version are you looking at francharb?
14:48 kf hehe
14:48 francharb OMG
14:48 kf same here as owen
14:48 kf no
14:48 oleonard The columns I have in 3.4.x: due date, title, item type, checked out on, call no., charge, price
14:48 francharb see?
14:48 francharb material
14:48 francharb AND
14:47 francharb charge
14:47 francharb checked out on
14:47 francharb brnach
14:47 francharb item type
14:47 francharb title
14:47 francharb due date
14:47 francharb ?
14:47 francharb there are informations about what you check out, right
14:47 francharb when you check out, oleonard
14:46 oleonard francharb: Where do you see "material" ?
14:46 francharb there is a total at the end of the column? what for?
14:46 francharb is it meant to be mapped with items.material?
14:45 francharb wooo, sorry for the broken english
14:45 francharb is there anyone who know what on circulation.pl "material" column is used for?
14:44 library_systems_guy thanks :)
14:44 francharb ;)
14:44 francharb i really like your nickname
14:44 library_systems_guy lol
14:44 library_systems_guy NCARMichael, is looking for a more satisfactory answer than what i can provide
14:43 francharb hey library_systems_guy
14:43 francharb ?
14:43 library_systems_guy hey francharb
14:43 francharb how is it doing today
14:43 francharb hey all
14:42 library_systems_guy somebody else may be able to give you a better answer but you should be able to do a desc on the biblio table if you have access to your mysql database
14:41 NCARMichael i'm guessing the one i'm looking for would likely be something like biblio.holdings
14:41 library_systems_guy oh like the database schema
14:41 NCARMichael (biblio.title, biblio.biblionumber, etc)
14:40 NCARMichael is there a list somewhere of all the code words?
14:39 NCARMichael question...i'm trying to get the 866a field(s) to show up as a column in a report.
14:37 library_systems_guy hey NCARMichael
14:36 NCARMichael hey gang
14:09 library_systems_guy Hi reiveune
14:08 reiveune hello
14:02 library_systems_guy gotcha
14:02 oleonard You could email it to the patches list as an attachment. And of course the patch should be attached to the bug report too
14:01 library_systems_guy is there another way to submit a patch other than email?
14:01 library_systems_guy yeah definitly not
14:00 oleonard http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-patches/
14:00 library_systems_guy dang...
13:59 oleonard If a patch goes through it shows up on the patches mailing list
13:59 library_systems_guy yes
13:59 oleonard Do you mean check to see if a patch which you submitted went through?
13:59 library_systems_guy oleonard, you commit a lot of stuff, is there anyway to check and see if my commit wen't through? I think email isn't working on the server i sent it from
13:58 oleonard Hi library_systems_guy
13:57 library_systems_guy morning #Koha
13:50 druthb danmc: I live in suburban Washington, DC, now, but used to live in east Texas.
13:49 * oleonard hasn't touched his
13:49 paul_p wow. Not for me :( (although tested only on biblibre/master. There may be a little difference. Or it's marc21/unimarc or some other parameter...)
13:49 oleonard paul_p: I wonder if it could be a difference in zebra configurations?
13:48 oleonard paul_p: Yes. Same result as with only one space.
13:48 danmc druthb: what part of the world do you live in (I was reading your wandering looking for wood comment)
13:48 paul_p do you mean that when you do a query with 2 words and 2 spaces between them, you get a result ?
13:47 paul_p oleonard, yes, i'm here
13:46 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6406 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , double space in query result in no result
13:46 oleonard paul_p around? I can't reproduce bug 6406
13:24 kmkale Namaste druthb :)
13:24 druthb Namaste, kmkale. :)
13:21 kmkale Namaskar #koha
13:15 oleonard git-bz++
13:15 * oleonard gets git-bz set up on his work machine
13:11 druthb this is actually much the same.
13:11 druthb when my father was teaching me woodworking, he said, "if you're going to get the prettiest, most-figured grains, and the most beautiful results, you have to be ready to handle some wild wood." (which, natch, gave me my love for wandering in the woods to find downed wild wood--as opposed to lumberyards.)
13:10 druthb If this works out like I'm hoping, it's gonna be really nice.
13:10 * oleonard threatens to instruct wahanui that druthb is a data-tamer and -shaver
13:10 oleonard woolly_data--
13:08 druthb yep. Ears-deep in some really wild n wooly data from a custom catalog app. Needed to get eyes off it for a moment, to solve a puzzle.
13:07 oleonard Hi druthb. Just for a moment?
13:06 * druthb peeks in for a moment.
12:08 NurAhammad Hi everybody good afternoon
11:57 SpaceLibrarian_home good evening #koha - I'll see you in a few. :)
11:21 rangi :)
11:21 magnuse it would be cool to get them to go to nz - could maybe get them to look at koha in its native habitat at the same time... :-)
11:18 rangi cool
11:18 magnuse rangi: i have passed on the link to puke ariki
11:18 magnuse g'night Irma
11:18 Irma g'night #koha friends!
11:17 rangi its a good building too, big exhibition space
11:16 Irma magnuse: I will get back with a few suggestions before toooo long :-)
11:15 Irma interesting merge of museum and library
11:15 Irma Puke Ariki library information The Library has a relationship with Shell who have provided much of the information about the oil business. Many of the children have parents who work out on the rig.
11:14 rangi yes that is still a goal
11:13 magnuse and we might support more then on db in the future...
11:12 magnuse yeah, i guess that is a good point ;-)
11:12 rangi cos your db server might be a different server
11:12 rangi the server? nope
11:12 magnuse hm, mysql is not installed as a dependency of koha-common?
11:10 magnuse sweet as!
11:10 magnuse way cool!
11:10 Irma My brother is an architect (and lives in Sydney) I will ask him and put the question to the members of the few ALIA e-lists I subscribe to
11:08 rangi http://www.pukeariki.com/VisitUs/VisitUs.aspx
11:08 magnuse Irma: they havn't decided yet, they wanted tips before they plan where to go
11:08 Irma We held a Kete workshop there last year
11:08 Irma Or are you thinking of the new City of Sydney building in Surry Hills?
11:07 Irma hi rangi ... one in NZ?
11:07 Irma Where is the delegation going ... only Sydney? Other cities?
11:07 rangi i had one
11:07 rangi magnuse: oh yeah
11:07 Irma I Well there are some new library building but they are scattered in the various States and Territories.
11:06 magnuse Irma: no worries! it was just a shot in the dark... :-)
11:06 Irma Sorry, really busy
11:06 Irma Hi magnuse! I should have answered your email by now ...
11:04 magnuse kia ora Irma
10:57 rangi shaugh
10:51 kf hi slef :)
10:51 kf yengh?
10:47 slef yengh
10:30 magnuse the finns have the coolest librarians - we better help them make a good decision :-)
10:26 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6406] double space in query result in no result <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6406>
10:23 kf thx :)
10:20 SpaceLibrarian_home kf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_League_State_of_Origin
10:20 magnuse cool message from finland on the devel-list!
10:19 magnuse ah, sports...
10:19 SpaceLibrarian_home It's a mad game of rugby league, played by two states in Australia
10:18 * kf nibbles some more on her cookie
10:18 * kf has no idea what rangi and SpaceLibrarian_home are talking about
10:08 SpaceLibrarian_home At least my football team wins consistently. It all balances out in the end. :)
10:08 SpaceLibrarian_home I've had five years to get used to the feeling of losing
10:08 rangi yeah
10:08 SpaceLibrarian_home I will be genuinely amazed and astounded if the Blues win
10:07 rangi but its a thankless task
10:07 rangi i usually cheer for the blues, cos they have the most maori in the team
10:07 rangi yep
10:06 SpaceLibrarian_home my chances? For Origin?
10:06 rangi im not liking your chances SpaceLibrarian_home
10:00 * SpaceLibrarian_home hands out cookies
09:57 * kf shares with druthb
09:57 kf I got a cookie for you typo :)
09:56 * druthb apparrently cannot type today, can she Katrin?
09:55 SpaceLibrarian_home my pleasure. :)
09:55 kf thx SpaceLibrarian_home :)
09:55 kf yay!
09:55 * SpaceLibrarian_home gives kf a cookie
09:54 kf ;)
09:54 * kf feels ignored
09:54 SpaceLibrarian_home :)
09:52 druthb hi Shelley and Chris and Kaitlin. *hugs all round*
09:52 kf hi druthb :)
09:49 rangi heya druthb
09:48 SpaceLibrarian_home hey druthb
09:43 mib_sun I have tried the cart too. but in this also price and other details is not coming. Shall I customize the fields displayed in the cart??
09:37 kf there are different views too
09:37 kf have you tried the opac cart?
09:37 kf in 3.4 there is more information
09:35 mib_sun When I am creating a list only Title,Author, and Date Added is displaying. How can I display more details in alist??
09:33 mib_sun what you mean by this card and lists functions??
09:31 mib_sun for generating a report the person must have to know about the table fields. so it is very difficult for a librarian to generate the report
09:28 kf there are some possibilities, butnot from isbd
09:28 kf and you can use the card and lists functions to get different lists
09:27 kf there are also print options for single lists
09:27 kf you could make a report
09:23 mib_sun is there any other option to take the print out??
09:21 mib_sun <kf>: one more doubt . how to take the print out of list of books and its details? only using 'Reports'?
09:16 SpaceLibrarian_home hey kf :)
09:16 kf hi SpaceLibrarian_home
09:15 SpaceLibrarian_home evening rangi
09:15 rangi hey SpaceLibrarian_home
09:12 mib_sun thanks <kf>. i will try
09:10 kf you could try and experiment with the data formats you can export from koha
09:10 mib_sun ok
09:09 mib_sun :(
09:07 kf I don't think what you want to do is possible right now
09:06 kf ok
09:05 mib_sun now only one book can view in ISBD view
09:05 mib_sun I have to take the print out of list of books in ISBD view.
09:04 kf what do you need to do?
09:03 kf I am not sure if you can make it show the contents of 952 and when they will probably be not nicely formatted
09:03 kf have you tried editing the ibsdview?
09:01 mib_sun hello.. is anyone there to help me..
08:42 mib_sun is there any option to list the details of books in ISBD view? I have to take the print out of all the books in ISBD view.
08:40 mib_sun hi koha
08:38 glernil GTG!
08:31 rangi yay
08:30 eythian two new green lights in my newborn Koha monitoring nagios configuration. That means it's time to go home.
08:26 eythian awesome
08:25 glernil wonderful... got it
08:23 eythian then use that to create a staff account.
08:23 eythian )
08:23 eythian (in /etc/koha/sites/whatever/
08:23 eythian glernil: to log in the first time, use the database credentials, which are near the bottom of the koha-conf.xml that was created
08:18 magnuse bbl
08:17 glernil by the way.. what's the default username and password...?
08:16 eythian glernil: cool :) glad to help.
08:15 glernil eythian: got to test this tomorrow. you're such a great help specially in situation (here in the Philippines) where help is nowhere but in this channel. ;)
08:11 magnuse http://www.flickr.com/photos/enger/5757338711/in/photostream ;-)
08:11 eythian glernil: awesome :)
08:11 glernil eythian++
08:10 glernil eythian: it worked! finally using 8080 as the intranet port
08:10 rangi oh newsletter is out
08:09 magnuse i loose...
08:07 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (8:00 PM NZST on May 25, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling).
08:07 rangi @wunder wellington nz
08:01 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 18.0�C (10:00 AM CEST on May 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Falling).
08:01 kf @wunder Konstanz
08:00 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Alta Lufthavn, Norway is 10.0�C (9:50 AM CEST on May 25, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Steady).
08:00 magnuse @wunder alf
07:50 eythian you can, you'll need to add Listen 8080 to your ports.conf (I think it is in apache) and change the config in the intranet section of the site to be :8080
07:48 glernil what if i will not be deploying it in production yet? can i set it to 8080?
07:47 eythian it doesn't put it on 8080, it puts them both on :80, but with different server names, so you need your DNS or hosts set up so you can access it using the correct names.
07:43 glernil eythian: it worked. in the localhost:80 perhaps.. but when i check localhost:8080 is says "unable to load page"
07:40 glernil a read something about that in the apache docu... but i'll try to do it first
07:40 eythian what do you mean?
07:40 eythian (or maybe 000-default)
07:40 glernil is it secure to do it that way?
07:39 eythian sudo a2dissite default
07:39 eythian oh
07:39 glernil eythian: the default page.. It works!
07:39 eythian and do you have your DNS set up properly?
07:39 eythian glernil: what is there when you check it in the browser?
07:38 glernil eythian: but there's no koha interface when i check it in the browser.. maybe its in the apache config
07:38 magnuse alta is good - getting to talk to new people about koha
07:38 glernil yet there's no koha interface when i check it in the browser
07:37 magnuse hi kf
07:37 kf how is alta?
07:37 magnuse ah ha
07:37 kf magnuse++
07:37 kf hi magnuse :)
07:37 magnuse rangi: thanks! and that will install all the dependencies too?
07:37 rangi and then apt-get -f install if you need to pull in dependencies
07:37 eythian glernil: sweet
07:37 rangi easiest way
07:37 rangi dpkg -i
07:36 magnuse i built my first .deb with build-git-snapshot, what's the best way to install it? apt-get? dpkg? others?
07:36 glernil got it!
07:36 wahanui well, magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
07:36 rangi heya magnuse
07:35 magnuse kia ora, #koha
07:34 glernil that's not on the list in the wiki.. i'll try
07:33 wahanui yeah, that is probably cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha...
07:33 eythian yeah, that
07:33 eythian you didn't do 'sudo a2enmod rewrite'
07:33 rangi (or whatever the right command is)
07:33 rangi its probably you havent done a2enmod rewrite
07:33 glernil invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
07:32 eythian is there more to it than that?
07:32 glernil syntax error line 69 of /etc/koha/apache-shared.conf
07:31 glernil eythian: i created the .conf file and inserted basic site conf in ref. to the link you gave. But when i created a koha instance there is a syntax error
07:26 rangi ahh
07:25 Guillaume Hi Rangi and everybody
07:25 paul_p rangi, nope, working from home
07:25 paul_p hi everybody.
07:25 sophie_m hi rangi, hi #koha
07:25 rangi paul_p: not in the office today?
07:24 rangi hi Guillaume, sophie_m and paul_p
07:22 kf thx rangi :)
07:21 rangi wb kf
07:20 kf hi #koha
07:06 hdl hi rangi
07:04 matts hello #koha !
07:03 julian hello rangi
07:03 rangi hi julian and hdl and matts
06:35 cait hi francharb and clrh
06:33 rangi hi clrh
06:33 wahanui hi, clrh
06:33 clrh hi
06:31 rangi hi francharb
06:30 francharb hello all
06:25 eythian I'd leave the DOMAIN blank if it's not going on the internet
06:25 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze#Quick_Start <-- it gives you an example here.
06:24 glernil sorry.. i'm a noob.. so what should i put there?
06:22 eythian you'll want to have an intrasuffix though, so when you set up DNS on your network the server knows what you're asking for.
06:21 glernil got to try that...
06:21 eythian I think you can leave the bulk of the fields blank.
06:21 glernil aw... ok.. ;)
06:21 glernil wat i mean the .conf part
06:21 eythian oh, or a sites configuration
06:21 eythian you can't skip having a database I'm afraid :)
06:20 glernil oops.. i'll check my mysql first
06:20 glernil i skipped that part since i can't understand what should be included there
06:20 eythian you probably need to install mysql-server then
06:20 glernil i got an error "awk: cannot open /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf"
06:20 eythian glernil: you don't have to put a whole lot in there really, but I think it complains if it's not there.
06:19 cait hi alex_a
06:19 cait I summoned you
06:19 eythian glernil: yes, you do need to create it
06:19 eythian oh
06:18 glernil i tried to skip that part and go directly in issuing the command koha-create.. but with no luck...
06:18 alex_a good morning !
06:17 eythian cait: yes?
06:16 wahanui i think eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence
06:16 cait eythian?
06:16 glernil oops.. ok
06:16 cait I am sorry, I have no experience with the packages
06:16 glernil do i have to create that file? even if the installation won't be live online?
06:15 glernil yet i'm stucked in the koha-sites.conf
06:15 glernil i downloaded and installed the package koha-common everything went fine
06:14 cait hi glernil
06:14 glernil anyone here familiar in the installation procedure for debian squeeze?
06:04 glernil hello
05:48 Brooke tossing and turning time!
05:40 Brooke 0/
05:22 cait hi eythian :)
05:21 eythian hiya
05:20 Oak :) hi
05:20 cait and hi Oak )
05:20 cait on time?
05:19 Oak ich liebe dich cait for being here on time. good.
05:16 Brooke guten tag
05:15 cait morning #koha
05:15 cait hi Brooke
05:15 Brooke 0/
05:03 Oak catch'ya'll later! and poof! sure was a space librarian...
05:02 Space_Librarian catch'ya'll later!
05:01 Oak hmm
05:00 * Oak googles 'nibbana'
05:00 Brooke would that that were enough for nibbana
04:59 * Oak is enlightened
04:59 Oak ah
04:58 Brooke good enough for government work is like passable.
04:57 Brooke it's a localised expression that's been mangled for spelling
04:57 Brooke won't find it
04:57 * Oak googles 'gummint woik'
04:56 Oak good
04:56 Brooke you?
04:56 Brooke good enough for gummint woik
04:56 Oak how are you today?
04:56 Oak \o/ Brooke !!!
04:55 Brooke 0/
04:12 Brooke a yep
04:12 rangi schuster is down there too
04:11 Brooke DFW got hammered.
04:11 * Brooke crosses her fingers.
04:11 rangi not that i saw
03:33 Brooke joy on earlier? she asked, hopefullly.
03:15 * Brooke salutes rangi.
03:14 rangi hi Brooke
03:13 Space_Librarian tena koe! :D
03:13 Brooke kia ora!
03:03 glernil ok.. i think i have to try that..
03:01 rangi making sure you install koha-common not just koha
03:01 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze#Quick_Start
03:00 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages
03:00 rangi with
03:00 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze
03:00 rangi you have to combine this
02:59 rangi but it does take a bit of knowing what you are doing
02:59 rangi yes
02:59 glernil is it possible to use the common debian package in Ubuntu?
02:43 glernil by the way.. i'm using ubuntu as my OS
02:42 rangi none at all
02:42 glernil any idea?
02:42 rangi never seen those before
02:42 glernil Unknown register type: d
02:42 glernil Unknown register type: y
02:42 glernil Unknown register type: n
02:42 glernil Unknown register type: 0
02:42 glernil there's another issue in my installation i want to clarify... when i rebuilt the index the following errors occurred>>>
02:41 rangi i use the koha-common debian package, cos it does the cron stuff for me
02:41 rangi cool
02:40 glernil got to look on that.. but what i did was to reinstall the system and start all over again since it is easy to do cause i'm using virtualbox...
02:39 rangi there is a crontab.example file
02:39 rangi take a look in misc/cronjobs
02:39 glernil nope not yet
02:30 rangi did you ever get your cronjob running?
02:30 rangi hey glernil
02:20 glernil hello #koha
01:43 eythian http://aggiesprite.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/rednekwine.jpg <-- mtj
00:58 jcamins_away Never mind. I just discovered biblio.datecreated.
00:49 jcamins_away Does anyone have time for some quick report help?
00:35 * oleonard has to go read books to some bedtime kids now
00:35 oleonard eythian++
00:35 wahanui jcamins_away: de nada
00:35 jcamins_away Thanks, wahanui.
00:35 wahanui logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/
00:35 jcamins_away logs?
00:35 oleonard rangi++
00:34 rangi sweet
00:34 oleonard Awesome
00:34 oleonard So it does
00:34 oleonard Does it work with chrome? Seems to be offering it as an option
00:33 oleonard Thanks guys, that got it working
00:32 eythian put in in /usr/(local/)bin
00:32 eythian sbin is not usually in your path
00:32 rangi is /usr/local/sbin ?
00:32 rangi if you run
00:32 oleonard Ah: usr/sbin is not listed
00:31 rangi echo $PATH
00:31 rangi i wonder if that isnt in your path
00:31 oleonard lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2011-05-24 20:17 /usr/sbin/git-bz -> /home/oleonard/git-bz/git-bz
00:30 rangi look like?
00:30 rangi ls -l /usr/sbin/git-bz
00:30 wahanui rumour has it does is calculate the discount on this price or the tax is removed before to calculte the discount on the price before taxes
00:30 rangi what does
00:30 oleonard Yes
00:30 rangi you did the symlink bit?
00:29 oleonard git-bz: command not found
00:28 rangi how about git-bz ?
00:27 rangi i think a red herring
00:27 oleonard Did the Python version turn out to be a red herring or do I need to be higher than 2.5.2?
00:26 oleonard I'm getting "git: 'bz' is not a git-command.
00:26 rangi hopefully the log makes sense?
00:26 rangi sweet
00:26 oleonard rangi: I'm just catching up on the git-bz lesson
00:25 pianohacker bye, all
00:20 jcamins_away Meh. Generally they're fine.
00:17 pianohacker reports--
00:16 jcamins_away If I can think coherently.
00:16 jcamins_away I just have to write a few reports tonight.
00:16 jcamins_away But tiring.
00:16 jcamins_away Yes.
00:15 pianohacker so convenient at least
00:13 jcamins_away Thankfully here in the city.
00:13 jcamins_away New Koha library.
00:13 pianohacker who are you training?
00:13 pianohacker ouch. teaching is work
00:12 jcamins_away Again.
00:12 jcamins_away Training this week.
00:11 pianohacker why are you waving feebly, btw? sick?
00:11 pianohacker dinner sounds really good
00:09 jcamins_away Except for dinner.
00:08 jcamins_away Basicallyl.
00:08 pianohacker jcamins_away_actuallyhere_butnotreallywentoutfordinner_thenloggedinwithmyphonesobackagain
00:07 rangi tab completion fail
00:07 rangi yep
00:07 jcamins_away Heh. I guess there are too many j{something}_away's, huh? ;)
00:07 rangi heya jcamins_away
00:07 rangi gah
00:06 rangi heya jwagner_away
00:05 * jcamins_away waves feebly
00:05 pianohacker hola, jcamins
00:01 * jcamins_away peeks in to #koha