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23:11 magnuse g'night #koha
22:59 magnuse hiya druthb
22:59 druthb Hi, magnus!
22:58 magnuse o/
22:45 magnuse see ya!
22:45 magnuse good plan!
22:44 library_guy good talking to you magnuse, im taking my girlfriend out to dinner so ill ttyl
22:39 library_guy yes exactly...oh the hax
22:38 magnuse but that's more for quick hacks than for doing major mods, i think...
22:38 magnuse yeah, pretty much
22:37 library_guy well i guess technically you could change everything from jquery if it has an id or some way to traverse to it
22:36 library_guy yes, that is how i started doing stuff
22:36 magnuse but hey, it's good to have some lofty goals too :-)
22:35 magnuse and there is quite a lot that can be done with css and jquery
22:35 library_guy so I don't really see it happening anytime soon
22:35 library_guy yeah abstraction would be key
22:34 magnuse it might require some work on abstraction first, so underlying things could change without every theme needing an update
22:34 magnuse having themes like them would be cool, but i cant really see enough people having enough time to implement it
22:33 library_guy i was hoping for some theming like those systems implement
22:32 magnuse yup
22:30 library_guy yeah exactly, have you ever used drupal or wordpress?
22:28 magnuse yeah, any "alternative interface" will probably be some work
22:28 magnuse ooh, goody
22:27 library_guy using SOPAC is rather complicated
22:27 library_guy well yesterday we were talking about easier ways to theme the opac
22:27 magnuse i was thinking we could have a page on the wiki that listed customized opacs, but havn't gotten around to starting one yet
22:25 library_guy indeed...I keep trying to see who else has the koha opac pretty customized
22:23 magnuse i'm sure he'll be intersted to have a look
22:22 magnuse always interesting to see how folks are changing the look of the opac
22:22 library_guy ill see if i can have a public link available before i talk to oleonard
22:22 library_guy thanks
22:22 magnuse that looks cool
22:22 magnuse hehe
22:21 library_guy closed the wrong window oops
22:19 library_systems_guy lol
22:19 library_systems_guy so it still needs a lot of work
22:19 library_systems_guy keep in mind i just started this yesterday
22:19 magnuse cool
22:19 library_systems_guy http://library.uttyler.edu/Koha.png
22:18 library_systems_guy give me one sec to upload it to m site and ill get you a link
22:15 magnuse library_systems_guy, that would be cool
22:14 library_systems_guy w00t cait
22:14 magnuse for signing off on lots of patches
22:14 magnuse cait++
22:14 library_systems_guy umm this one isn't public but i can send you a screenshot if you'd like
22:13 magnuse have you got a public opac that has your changes?
22:13 magnuse i think having a layout that can easily be altered with css is A Good Thing :-)
22:13 library_systems_guy yeah I guess we'll see what oleonard thinks
22:13 magnuse souonds interesting
22:11 library_systems_guy i've actually done quite a bit of re-arranging of elements in the opac header to maybe make it easier to edit
22:10 magnuse hm
22:09 library_systems_guy i was just going to use the breadcrumb but i noticed that it was in use in several places
22:09 library_systems_guy yes
22:09 magnuse library_systems_guy, are you adding navigation bar to the opac?
22:05 magnuse hehe
22:04 library_systems_guy ok I'll attack him when he gets back on
22:00 magnuse library_systems_guy, yep, he's the web ui guru :-)
21:57 library_systems_guy so is oleonard the guy that does a lot of the display stuff?
21:56 magnuse good! ;-)
21:54 library_systems_guy thats true, and I seem to start quite a few of those :p
21:54 magnuse it's a good starting point for a discussion
21:54 magnuse well there's no harming in sending a patch
21:53 library_systems_guy haha ill have to catch him on monday. I added navigation for our page but i am afraid to commit it since im the new guy.
21:52 magnuse library_systems_guy: sounds like you should have a chat with oleonard when he is around ;-)
21:51 library_systems_guy also would anybody be interested in me adding a navigation bar under the header?
21:47 library_systems_guy Why do all of the body of the koha pages span the entire page instead of allowing dynamic sizing easily
21:47 library_systems_guy I have a design question if anybody is working this weekend
20:18 magnuse hiya cait and #koha
20:17 cait hi magnuse :)
18:00 cait jcamins++ for incredible delicious sounding descriptions of food :)
17:54 jcamins food++
16:32 druthb goof_resistant_cookery++
16:03 cait hehe
16:00 jcamins It's not going to be as good as the lavash we're going to eat in Budapest, but it should be pretty tasty.
15:59 cait sounds yummy
15:59 cait hmm
15:52 * jcamins stirs his garlic flatbread dough.
15:49 * Oak goes to find something to eat
15:47 * cait hides
15:46 * jcamins feels rather betrayed. It started out so well, then suddenly, he's in a coma and his memory is restored.
15:46 * jcamins just read half of The Mysterious Flame of Queen Loana.
15:43 Oak hehe
15:42 druthb Lately, my science reading is non-fiction ("Perl Best Practices"...) and my fiction reading is non-science (cheap romance novels. :P )
15:42 * druthb used to read a lot more sci-fi than she does, these days.
15:41 Oak :)
15:41 * druthb raises an eyebrow
15:40 * Oak hides Heinlein's book under the mattress
15:40 druthb He had a lot of interesting ideas, given the context he was writing in...and history has shown him to be at-best partly correct about some of his assumptions of where things were headed. Good stories, but don't get to thinkin' he was right about things, too much.
15:37 Oak hmm
15:37 druthb That said (and it sounds negative, but isn't, really...or not too much), he did spin some good stories. "Stranger" is good, but my favorites are "Friday" and "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress."
15:35 druthb :) Heinlein had some interesting views on political structure; he favored democracy, but with a somewhat socialist bent. His notions on human sexuality were ...somewhat freewheeling. In this country, the term for such as he is "dirty old man".
15:34 Oak i mean i've read Far From the Madding Crowd many times but if I pick it up again i won't be bored one bit
15:33 Oak err, i don't know much about his views. this is his first book i'm reading... normally I prefer reading books by Hardy, Austen, Tolstoy, Charlotte Bront�, Hemingway again and again
15:32 druthb Being a transgendered person, I somewhat get the themes of "I Will Fear No Evil," though Heinlein's oddities are clear there...he *didn't* get it, but he was willing to talk about it, at a time when a lot of authors were not.
15:30 druthb Hm... I enjoyed Heinlein's YA stories a *lot*...they stayed clear of his somewhat strange politics, and his...erm...strange views on sex and sexuality. I think the last one I read, about two or three years ago, was "Orphans of the Sky."
15:29 Oak what was your last book druthb ?
15:28 druthb I haven't read any Heinlein in years and years.
15:27 * Oak is reading Stranger in a Strange Land
15:26 Oak good
15:26 druthb Doing well! :)
15:26 Oak hiya druthb, how are you today? :)
15:26 druthb Hi, Oak! :)
15:25 Oak see, i remembered
15:25 cait :)
15:25 Oak hello Ms. cait :)
15:24 cait hi Oak
15:24 Oak \o
14:48 wahanui hmmm... bg is the awesomest boss....no, really, I mean it.
14:48 druthb wahanui: bg?
14:46 wahanui somebody said brendan was with his family
14:46 druthb wahanui brendan?
14:46 wahanui [1]+ infobot &
14:46 druthb wahanui: bg?
14:46 bg :D
14:46 * druthb blinks.
14:46 wahanui druthb is blogging irregularly at http://librarygeekgirl.net
14:46 bg wahanui: druthb?
14:46 wahanui well, jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas.
14:46 bg wahanui: jcamins?
14:46 wahanui OK, druthb.
14:46 druthb wahanui: druthb is blogging irregularly at http://librarygeekgirl.net
14:45 bg druthb?
14:45 bg heh
14:45 druthb lol
14:45 wahanui Brooke is deprecated
14:45 druthb wahanui: Brooke?
14:45 wahanui druthb: bugger all, i dunno
14:45 druthb wahanui: druthb?
14:44 wahanui okay, druthb.
14:44 druthb wahanui: recipe for pancakes is also at http://www.sugarlaws.com/cinnamon-pancakes
14:44 jcamins Coconut curry chocolate chip cookies are at http://www.cookiemadness.net/2009/05/curry-coconut-oatmeal-chocolate-chip-cookies/
14:44 druthb oooo. teh yum.
14:43 bg I'm thinking about this one http://www.sugarlaws.com/cinnamon-pancakes
14:41 wahanui i heard recipe for pancakes was at http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/good-old-fashioned-pancakes/Detail.aspx
14:41 druthb wahanui: recipe for pancakes?
14:41 * druthb pokes her BEST BOSS EVAR in the ribs.
14:40 bg recipe for pancakes?
14:40 wahanui pancakes are always good
14:40 bg pancakes?
13:56 wahanui search faq is, like, at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
13:56 jcamins search faq?
12:46 magnuse yeah, looks like it
12:46 cait probably somethng went wrong
12:46 cait she had some problems with her git branch
12:46 cait yeah :(
12:45 magnuse i could do what she did and create a new patch, but wouldn't want to appear to steal her fix or something...
12:44 magnuse it's not really a conflict, it's "sha1 information is lacking or useless"
12:41 cait it's only a one liner
12:41 cait and solving the conflict?
12:41 cait ah
12:38 magnuse the first patch applies nicely though
12:38 magnuse nope, it suggeste git am --resolved/skip/abort
12:35 cait probably not
12:35 cait hm, fatal
12:35 cait and it does not finish?
12:28 magnuse hm, guess i have to mark it does not apply, then
12:28 jcamins Okay, no idea, then.
12:27 magnuse git am -i3u
12:27 jcamins What arguments are you using?
12:24 magnuse i get "fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (reports/guided_reports.pl)."
12:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6258 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Guided reports wizard 'Build new' brings up empty page
12:24 magnuse anyone else tried wizzyreas patch for bug 6258?
12:23 magnuse kia ora druthb and cait and #koha
12:23 cait hi magnuse :)
12:22 druthb Hi, magnuse! :)
11:57 jcamins Hi cait.
11:56 cait hi jcamins
11:32 druthb Hi, jcamins!
11:30 jcamins Good morning, #koha.
11:00 cait k
10:59 druthb nope.
10:55 * cait remembers the cookie incident
10:55 cait are you not scared I am trying to poison you? ;)
10:53 * druthb takes one and nibbles on it.
10:52 * cait puts a big bowl of strawberries in the middle of #koha
10:52 druthb hi. :)
10:52 cait morning druthb :)
10:52 druthb o/
10:10 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0�C (12:00 PM CEST on May 21, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
10:10 cait @wunder Konstanz
08:08 cait hi #koha
05:12 kmkale Namaskar #koha
04:34 pianohacker actually, maybe: rangi?
04:32 pianohacker anyone around for a bit of lazyweb?
04:31 pianohacker hola
04:09 danmc I suspect if I fix that issue then koha_perl_deps.pl will become happy.
04:09 pastebot "danmc" at 24.98.165.232 pasted "broken perl modules" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/55
04:06 danmc ah. C4::Installer aside, it seems those few perl modules are broken.
03:28 jcamins_away Yeah. Especially since Catalyst has super-slick packages.
03:27 danmc with the rather long list of dependencies, I can see wanting to stick to one OS distribution.
03:25 jcamins_away Or, at least, as exclusively as we can.
03:25 jcamins_away We use Debian exclusively.
03:24 jcamins_away I'm the Lead Support Specialist for ByWater Solutions.
03:24 jcamins_away The latter.
03:24 danmc are you a casual user or do you use koha for a job?
03:21 jcamins_away Where I am, too.
03:20 danmc Unfortunately is is also 11:23pm on Friday where I am too ;)
03:20 danmc lol
03:20 jcamins_away Unfortunately, it's 11:23pm on Friday where he is.
03:20 jcamins_away The person to talk to is chris_n.
03:19 jcamins_away Definitely not.
03:19 jcamins_away No.
03:19 danmc so it's not just me being dumb
03:13 jcamins_away Also completely opaque.
03:13 jcamins_away Definitely Koha specific.
03:13 danmc yeah, me neither. Seems to be a koha specific module.
03:13 jcamins_away I have no idea how C4::Installer::PerlModules works.
03:12 jcamins_away Hm.
03:10 pastebot "danmc" at 24.98.165.232 pasted "koha_perl_deps.pl output" (118 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/54
03:09 jcamins_away Okay, that's good.
03:08 danmc 3.04.00
03:08 jcamins_away Copy the output of koha_perl_deps.pl into paste.koha-community.org?
03:07 jcamins_away What version of Koha are you working with?
03:06 jcamins_away That functionality does not work.
03:06 jcamins_away Schedule::At is definitely not required.
03:05 danmc I have 0.92 of p5-MARC-XML
03:05 danmc actually, it claims Schedule::At is required. I may have to suck it up and try to figure out out the koha_perl_deps.pl program actually works.
03:05 jcamins_away What version of p5-MARC-XML do you have?
03:03 jcamins_away Okay, just checking.
03:03 danmc seems to be that way on the ones I'm spot checking
03:02 danmc good question. I generally shy away from working on the perl module pkgs
03:02 jcamins_away That doesn't look right to me, from my experience with FreeBSD.
03:02 jcamins_away vendor_perl? Is that a proper NetBSD thing?
03:01 jcamins_away Hm.
03:01 danmc the XML one has /usr/pkg/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.0/MARC/File/XML.pm
03:01 danmc yep. I have p5-MARC-Charset and p5-MARC-XML
03:01 jcamins_away Under textproc, maybe?
03:00 jcamins_away MARC::Charset should be p5-MARC-Charset.
03:00 jcamins_away You know that MARC::File and MARC::File::XML are completely different, right?
03:00 jcamins_away Let's see...
03:00 danmc ah.
02:59 jcamins_away (my Makefile... it wasn't written yet.
02:59 jcamins_away No help there.
02:59 danmc I had briefly looked at koha ages (8 yrs) ago and then more recently started digging into a PR someone submited with a slightly out of date version.
02:58 jcamins_away Lemme see if I still have my Makefile.
02:58 jcamins_away Nope.
02:58 jcamins_away _That_ particular issue tripped me up... many times.
02:58 danmc I should look, is there a working koha port in freebsd ports?
02:58 jcamins_away Okay, just checking.
02:58 danmc perl-5.12.2 is the only one I have installed
02:57 jcamins_away Yep.
02:57 danmc ok, so you know the drill of trying to compile the big list of perl module dependencies
02:57 jcamins_away Check that you don't have two versions of Perl?
02:57 * jcamins_away spent a while working on a FreeBSD port.
02:57 danmc working on getting koha into pkgsrc (the system NetBSD uses for 3rd party apps)
02:56 danmc NetBSD
02:56 jcamins_away What OS?
02:56 jcamins_away You don't need the latter, but you do need the other two.
02:56 jcamins_away Ooh.
02:56 danmc MARC::Charset, MARC::File::XML, Schedule::At
02:54 jcamins_away danmc: I don't know much about it, but which modules?
02:53 danmc anyone up on koha_perl_deps.pl debugging? It is claiming 3 of my modules are at a current version of "0" when I don't think they are. Is there perhaps any sort of a debug log created?