Time  Nick                  Message
23:52 huginn`               druthb: The operation succeeded.
23:52 druthb                @later tell Brooke thanx for the drive-by Brooke-ing....
23:47 Brooke                happy Birthday, Chris :)
23:47 Brooke                kia ora
22:31 cait                  good night #koha
21:57 cait                  bbfn?
21:57 slef                  bbfn
21:56 slef                  Internet Protocol over human intermediary
21:55 slef                  done
21:55 cait                  say hi back to sarah plz :)
21:55 slef                  cait: S says hi
21:54 cait                  slef: no it's almost midnight ;)
21:54 * slef                tuts
21:54 slef                  it's 11pm. Why can these foreigners never tell the time?
21:53 vali                  take care
21:53 vali                  bye
21:53 vali                  happy weekend
21:53 vali                  ok guys
21:53 slef                  wizzyrea: I *am* home :)
21:53 slef                  vali: dev would be easier to apply them
21:53 wizzyrea              it's 5pm friday silly > time to go home!
21:53 vali                  or standard
21:52 wizzyrea              ty for the help and stuff :)
21:52 vali                  i have to install the dev mod for patches?
21:52 slef                  quitter :)
21:52 wizzyrea              ttys :)
21:52 wizzyrea              ok folks, I'm out
21:51 slef                  vali: patch -p0 < patchfile.patch # but using git is better
21:50 wizzyrea              more likely the 2nd
21:50 wizzyrea              how to apply patches is probably in one of those links
21:50 wahanui               i think sign off on patches is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
21:50 wizzyrea              sign off on patches?
21:50 wahanui               i think version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
21:50 wizzyrea              version control using git?
21:50 vali                  apply*
21:50 vali                  how to assign patches?
21:50 slef                  or are there dead bodies in your lounge?
21:49 wizzyrea              maybe a level 4 *digital* hoarder :P
21:49 vali                  onething more
21:49 wizzyrea              well
21:49 wizzyrea              lol no, thank god :)
21:49 slef                  wizzyrea: are you a level 4 hoarder?
21:49 wizzyrea              witness my most recent patches >.<
21:49 * wizzyrea            might be a little insane about not deleting stuff
21:49 vali                  hahha
21:49 slef                  :)
21:49 vali                  i will do
21:49 slef                  less destructive than me
21:49 vali                  ok
21:48 slef                  create a new db like wizzyrea said is good too
21:48 vali                  ok then
21:48 slef                  and make install that again
21:48 slef                  cd to the 3.2 code you unpacked
21:47 vali                  i want to go back to 3.2
21:47 slef                  just replace the 3.4 code with the 3.2 one I think
21:47 vali                  but it will remain 3.4
21:47 wizzyrea              or create a new db and point your config file to the new db (I've done that)
21:47 slef                  vali: you can drop database + recreate it and koha should return to webinstaller
21:47 vali                  coz 3.4 has bugs
21:47 vali                  i just want to roll back
21:46 vali                  no i dont want to keep anything
21:46 slef                  vali: yes nothing or yes you want to keep (sorry my bad question)
21:46 vali                  ok wizzy thanks
21:45 vali                  yes
21:45 slef                  vali: did your database contain nothing you want to keep?
21:43 wizzyrea              (just being honest, I wouldn't want to lead you astray)
21:43 wizzyrea              i'm sorry vali, I don't feel competent to help with this right now, and unfortunately there aren't a lot of others about at the moment. You might try back tomorrow or the next day.
21:41 vali                  so i have to uninstall all the stuff and have to install the whole system again?
21:41 vali                  <wizzyrea> sadly it doesn't work that way yet.
21:40 wizzyrea              sadly it doesn't work that way yet.
21:40 vali                  if i have not backed up... can i roll back to default database?
21:40 * wizzyrea            gives up for now
21:39 wizzyrea              hmm
21:39 wizzyrea              but how to recover... is the question.
21:39 wizzyrea              i am almost sure that I did something like pull when I was on the wrong branch or somesuch
21:39 vali                  ok
21:38 slef                  biab
21:37 slef                  vali: only if you backed up the db I think
21:37 wizzyrea              hehe
21:37 vali                  or upgrade to 3.2.9?
21:37 slef                  and S says she doesn't mind me IRCing while watching the tour of cali
21:37 vali                  can i roll back?
21:37 vali                  i have upgraded to 3.4 from 3.2.7
21:37 wizzyrea              yes, do that :)
21:37 slef                  now I'm really going to eat this apple crumble!
21:37 wizzyrea              i'm guessing, only guessing
21:36 wizzyrea              well, you know more about it than me :)
21:36 vali                  thanks
21:36 wizzyrea              haha
21:36 slef                  but I'm probably wrong :)
21:36 slef                  and then git should sort it for you
21:36 wizzyrea              hmm
21:35 slef                  or wait for it to get into origin
21:35 wizzyrea              seems odd
21:35 slef                  so either you reorder some stuff
21:35 library_systems_guy   bye #koha im out for the day :)
21:35 slef                  that makes me think something's been committed to your local master which isn;'t in origin/master yet
21:35 wizzyrea              (btw, thanks very much for helping me poke at it, it was/is driving me mad)
21:34 wizzyrea              yeeeesss
21:34 sekjal                okay, gtg.  see you next week, #koha!
21:34 slef                  well, you see those same bugs get repeated up a few branches?
21:34 wizzyrea              unless it's a testing branch, but none of that stuff is
21:33 wizzyrea              in theory?
21:33 wizzyrea              nothing from origin hanging out on a branch?
21:33 slef                  dunno... every repo is different :(
21:33 wizzyrea              and I will endeavor to make it so
21:33 wizzyrea              slef: so tell me this, what *should* it look like
21:33 wizzyrea              well that's ok then :)
21:32 wizzyrea              ahh
21:32 slef                  tv and late dessert
21:32 slef                  nah from sofa
21:32 wizzyrea              if you are, I apologize to your wife!
21:32 slef                  and I'm watching the tour of cali
21:32 wizzyrea              are you doing this from dinner?!
21:32 wizzyrea              !!!
21:32 slef                  biab dessert is here
21:31 slef                  I'm not sure
21:31 slef                  as in what's the next * in the left column?
21:31 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6330 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , holds saying on hold 'until' instead of 'since'
21:31 slef                  wizzyrea: hrm. so have you some patch before the bug 6330 one which isn't in origin?
21:31 wizzyrea              slef, did I pull whilst on the wrong branch
21:29 slef                  and using git wouild be much better
21:29 slef                  there is probably a better link
21:28 slef                  vali: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=snapshot;h=e6b591d95fd40eb68bfa71761010bf85e3116c5b;sf=tgz
21:28 wizzyrea              :)
21:27 wizzyrea              try that
21:27 wahanui               well, version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
21:27 wizzyrea              version control using git?
21:27 vali                  can u give me link?
21:27 vali                  i know nothing abt git
21:26 wizzyrea              git pull
21:26 slef                  wizzyrea: So for some reasonyour repo doesn't know those patches are in origin/master. how did you get them?
21:26 vali                  i can download 3.4.1 unstable? from where?
21:25 vali                  ok
21:25 wizzyrea              sure, might be unstable though
21:25 vali                  Koha version:
21:24 slef                  can get snapshot off gitweb can't you?
21:24 vali                  http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/about.pl
21:24 wizzyrea              no nightlies, afaik
21:24 huginn`               vali: I suck
21:24 vali                  @ wizzyrea ok thanks
21:23 vali                  and from where i can download the nightly release? is there any?
21:23 slef                  vali: monday innit?
21:23 wizzyrea              May 22 is when it's scheduled
21:23 vali                  i want to know the release of 3.4.1
21:22 wizzyrea              yes
21:22 slef                  hi vali
21:22 vali                  hi all
21:22 slef                  wizzyrea: the ones with *s in the leftmost branch?
21:20 wizzyrea              pf huginn
21:20 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6320 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Generate Next button doesn't generate next issue
21:20 wizzyrea              ending with bug 6320
21:19 wizzyrea              and currently I get 7 patches
21:19 wizzyrea              I am on what is referred to as "master" in my local repo
21:18 slef                  wizzyrea: so where are you and you get 8 patches from origin/master?
21:13 library_systems_guy   they are no bueno
21:13 pastebot              "wizzyrea" at pasted "so embarrassing... how do I manage these problems." (70 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/53
21:13 library_systems_guy   uh oh...i remember conflicts with svn
21:12 slef                  library_systems_guy: it should merge but may conflict
21:12 slef                  wizzyrea: just 1st screen should be enough
21:11 library_systems_guy   on update*
21:11 library_systems_guy   if i change the opac.css file on the server instead of through preferences will it get overwritten?
21:10 library_systems_guy   lol dang
21:10 rhcl                  don't think you can self-deprecate
21:09 * library_systems_guy --
21:09 library_systems_guy   probably
21:09 library_systems_guy   oops
21:08 cait                  if you are not subscribed to patches it's possible that it's stuck in moderation
21:08 wizzyrea              slef it's pretty huge
21:08 cait                  oh patches list, sorry
21:08 slef                  hmmm... wizzyrea can you put your git gr in pastebin or similar for me?
21:08 library_systems_guy   im not, but i was about to
21:08 library_systems_guy   i just added a div around the advanced search form with an ID so i could size it
21:08 cait                  are you subscribed to the bugs list?
21:07 cait                  what is it about?
21:07 library_systems_guy   i just don't know if it actually sent
21:07 cait                  library_systems_guy++
21:07 library_systems_guy   yayy i made my first patch :)
21:07 wizzyrea              last one is 2dfb6038a55bf257c442a22eae992d59e6f07905
21:06 wizzyrea              no, it's all stuff that came in from git pull
21:06 cait                  other commits tests you did apply perhaps on that branch?
21:06 cait                  what does your git log show?
21:05 cait                  me neither :(
21:01 slef                  hrm not sure what's up there :(
20:59 wizzyrea              it's friday at 4pm. I should not be arguing with git right now >.<
20:59 wizzyrea              wtf.
20:59 wizzyrea              and if I try to rebase origin, it says fatal: cannot convert from UTF-8utf-8 to UTF-8
20:58 wizzyrea              <whine> ugh I'm so dumb at git </whine>
20:58 wizzyrea              but it's stuff I pulled down?
20:58 wizzyrea              it says that master is ahead of origin/master by 18 commits
20:58 wizzyrea              this might be something
20:58 wizzyrea              o
20:58 cait                  hm
20:56 wizzyrea              currently i'm getting 8
20:56 cait                  git format-patch I mean
20:55 cait                  and you get a lot of patches when you do git format?
20:55 cait                  hm
20:55 wizzyrea              yes
20:54 cait                  did you branch from master liz?
20:54 wizzyrea              oh lordie
20:53 wizzyrea              k
20:53 slef                  biab an alarm is going off
20:53 slef                  in $HOME/.gitconfig
20:53 slef                  gr = log --graph --full-history --all --color '--pretty=%h%x09%d%x20%s%x20(%an)'
20:53 slef                  [alias]
20:53 wizzyrea              that's a definite "no"
20:53 wizzyrea              hah
20:53 wizzyrea              seems unlikely
20:53 slef                  Do you have git gr configured?
20:53 slef                  I guess it's confused about where your branch point is.
20:52 wizzyrea              what I mean is... it's formatting patches for stuff I've pulled in from origin master ?
20:51 wizzyrea              no, that only gives me the 1st
20:50 wizzyrea              hm
20:50 slef                  not putting -1 on it? ;-)
20:50 wizzyrea              i had it worked out for a while but now it's broken again and I don't know why
20:50 wizzyrea              what am I doing wrong that I'm getting all of these patches when I format patch?
20:50 wizzyrea              ohh kay
20:49 library_systems_guy   im glad you did
20:48 wizzyrea              (in my mind)
20:48 wizzyrea              it's always a debate whether or not to correct ;)
20:48 library_systems_guy   i decided to go with an old spanish lesson...when in doubt go with the masculine
20:48 wizzyrea              < played WoW, got that all the time
20:48 wizzyrea              don't :)
20:48 * library_systems_guy turns 20 shades of red
20:48 library_systems_guy   i knew that was going to happen to me
20:47 wizzyrea              ;)
20:47 wizzyrea              though wizzy is just a variant of "lizzy"
20:47 wizzyrea              you're welcome
20:47 rhcl                  ?
20:46 * library_systems_guy would like to shake wizzyrea's hand for all his help
20:46 library_systems_guy   ok cool :)
20:46 wizzyrea              /kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules
20:45 library_systems_guy   there was supposed to be a return character in there
20:45 library_systems_guy   oops
20:45 library_systems_guy   ./kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-advsearch.tt./kohaclone/blib/OPAC_TMPL_DIR/prog/en/modules/opac-advsearch.tt
20:45 wizzyrea              where are you seeing them?
20:43 library_systems_guy   which one do a change
20:43 library_systems_guy   ok so I'd like to make a change to the opac-advsearch.tt but it exists in 2 locations
20:39 library_systems_guy   lol yeah i was frustrated with ldap that day
20:38 wizzyrea              gah I cannot type
20:38 wizzyrea              :)
20:38 wizzyrea              lol nice tagline :()
20:36 library_systems_guy   and I'll be updating the initial setup to match the dev install
20:36 library_systems_guy   but hopefully i can get some of the stuff i struggled with on it
20:36 library_systems_guy   not much yet because I've been busy coding a new site for our library
20:35 library_systems_guy   http://kohablog.wordpress.com/
20:35 library_systems_guy   goes to look up url
20:35 library_systems_guy   yeah
20:35 * cait                perks up
20:34 wizzyrea              you have a kohablog?
20:34 library_systems_guy   i should put that in my kohablog
20:34 library_systems_guy   sad but true
20:34 wizzyrea              you're not the first, you'll not be the last :)
20:33 * wizzyrea            hugs library_systems_guy
20:33 library_systems_guy   I'd just like to announce to everybody that im retarded and will never again do a full install while logged in as root
20:33 wizzyrea              http://dnssy.com/report.php?q=surewestkc.net heh
20:30 wizzyrea              a dns redirect or something
20:30 wizzyrea              at some point, somewhere, surewest.kc.net must have existed, and it's ghost is lingering
20:29 wizzyrea              something so purposeful reeks of humanity to me
20:29 wizzyrea              haha :)
20:29 gmcharlt              wizzyrea++ # pre-emptive answering!
20:28 gmcharlt              wizzyrea: that sounds more like an MTA misconfig than a Koha issue
20:28 wizzyrea              (no, of course we don't have full headers [yet] why on earth would you ask that?)
20:28 wizzyrea              which makes absolutely no sense at all
20:28 wizzyrea              it's right in the db, but the bounces are coming back @surewest.kc.net
20:27 wizzyrea              I can't
20:27 wizzyrea              can you all think of any reason why an email address like somename@surewestkc.net would be transcribed by the koha server into somename@surewest.kc.net
20:26 wizzyrea              he's always so fast on the quit button
20:26 wizzyrea              gnite oleonard
20:26 oleonard              Have a good weekend #koha.
20:21 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6258] Guided reports wizard 'Build new' brings up empty page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6258> / [Bug 6327] editing frameworks looses framework suggestion <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6327>
20:18 cait                  hehe
20:18 oleonard              There should be a new category of "Resolved" in bugzilla: "Resolved: Don't do that"
20:16 cait                  oleonard: try creating a vendor called 0 or NULL one of those is fun :)
20:15 * cait                thinks she will ignore that bug
20:15 oleonard              Okay, feel free to re-open if you have more info
20:14 cait                  I think russian or ukrainian has... I have stumbled into that
20:14 cait                  I think it's a language problem, en has no sample budgets
20:14 rhcl                  allright now, new koha test server up and running, minimum fuss. TNX oleonard and jcammins
20:14 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3866 minor, P4, ---, henridamien, RESOLVED FIXED, Errror in sample_budgets.sql
20:14 cait                  oleonard. bug 3866
20:14 * oleonard            must... create... title... called... 0!
20:13 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4158 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , cannot create list whose title is '0'
20:13 * oleonard            mobilizes all his forces to solve Bug 4158 no matter what the cost!
20:06 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2388 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Improve documentation of overdue_notices.pl
20:06 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6112 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Missing fields in overdues csv file
20:06 rhcl                  huggin buddy, gitme bug 6112 bug 2388
20:06 wizzyrea              screw it, I'll send a followup "uh, nuts."
20:04 wizzyrea              doh, that patch I just sent is right but I left in the commented out wrong line >.<
20:02 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1983 enhancement, P3, ---, chris, NEW , Add option to create hold request when checking out an item already on loan
20:02 oleonard              Nice long-lost enhancement idea: Bug 1983
20:00 cait                  probably in mine too, should check
20:00 cait                  hehe
19:59 oleonard              It's first in the autocomplete for my "blocks" form field
19:59 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit
19:59 wizzyrea              tt bug number is bug 5917
19:59 cait                  always have to search for it
19:59 wizzyrea              ty oleonard
19:59 cait                  no idea
19:59 oleonard              5917
19:59 wizzyrea              what's the TT bug number again?
19:53 jcamins_away          dynamic_duo_of_bug_squashing_brilliance++
19:53 wizzyrea              cait++
19:52 cait                  wizzyrea++
19:52 wizzyrea              ya, and I just squashed another one (with cait's help)
19:49 cait                  seems we are filling up the sign off queue-- again
19:47 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6306] It is not possible edit news <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6306>
19:45 rhcl1                 ack tnx again
19:45 jcamins_away          But no need to go through the installer.
19:45 jcamins_away          rhcl1: if you're importing a pre-configured database, nothing beyond setting up Apache, MySQL, and Zebra (and, of course, Koha).
19:45 indradg               rangi, happy birthday :)
19:43 rhcl1                 for a new dev koha install, do we need to do any initial setup before we import a database?
19:43 jcamins_away          Ugh. I keep on forgetting that.
19:43 oleonard              Depends on who you ask
19:42 rhcl1                 Friday si!
19:42 jcamins_away          It's Friday?
19:41 * cait                loves koha fridays
19:41 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6327 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , editing frameworks looses framework suggestion
19:41 cait                  looking at bug 6327 next
19:40 gmcharlt              oleonard: "... in  a deep, personal way it wounds my heart to the depths of my existance" </hyperbole>
19:39 cait                  lol
19:39 cait                  hmpf, this tea is hot
19:39 oleonard              "Owen your mishandling of variable scope MAKES ME SO ANGRY!"
19:39 oleonard              Anything's possible I suppose
19:38 wizzyrea              or not politely, as in, by screaming at you.
19:38 * oleonard            supposes if his fix is incorrect someone will politely inform him
19:32 cait                  only a simple variable
19:32 cait                  I had no loop
19:32 cait                  not usre
19:29 oleonard              Is it kosher to do so without the FOREACH? Seems to work...
19:29 oleonard              ...I can do [% new_detail.title %] in the template
19:29 oleonard              Okay, so following rangi's advice, if I put this in the script: $template->{VARS}->{'new_detail'} = $new_detail;
19:27 cait                  yay
19:27 huginn`               cait: The operation succeeded.  Quote #135 added.
19:27 cait                  @quote add rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo
19:27 cait                  @quote add rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo
19:25 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6370] news showing that it's for the opac when it's for the librarian interface <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6370>
19:24 * sekjal              also needs tea
19:24 huginn`               cait: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
19:24 cait                  @quote add rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo
19:23 * jcamins_away        is not home, so it'll have to wait until he gets home.
19:23 * jcamins_away        needs tea
19:23 jcamins_away          Tea!
19:22 cait                  so brewed some :)
19:22 cait                  need some tea now
19:21 wizzyrea              :)
19:21 wizzyrea              i'm hassling you
19:21 cait                  wizzyrea: sure!
19:19 rhcl1                 tnx
19:19 oleonard              dev
19:19 rhcl1                 we're setting up a test koha server using git; do we want to install dev, single, or standard????
19:17 * oleonard            doesn't see how that worked even before T:T
19:17 wizzyrea              if I don't get to it I'll let you know
19:17 wizzyrea              oh oh, can I?
19:17 cait                  wizzyrea: I am going to check guided reports next - ok?
19:16 cait                  aha!
19:16 * oleonard            suspects this is the root of the Koha news problem: $template->param($new_detail);
19:15 wizzyrea              [off] i do not feel like working!
19:15 jcamins_away          Cookies, probably.
19:15 wizzyrea              mousse
19:14 cait                  eggs and chocolate... so many possibilities...
19:14 wizzyrea              well I shall report on how they are :P
19:14 jcamins_away          This reminds me. I need to buy eggs and chocolate on the way home.
19:14 jcamins_away          wizzyrea: I've never tried them.
19:11 huginn`               druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010)
19:11 druthb                @quote get 102
19:11 wizzyrea              maybe tomorrow.
19:11 wizzyrea              jcamins_away: i'm making those. Like, tonight.
19:11 huginn`               druthb: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
19:11 druthb                hmpf.  druthb--
19:10 cait                  druthb++
19:10 library_systems_guy   druthb++
19:10 druthb                library_systems_guy++
19:10 library_systems_guy   oh i feel pro now
19:10 wizzyrea              jcamins has just given my family a heart attack
19:10 cait                  yay!
19:10 druthb                got it in one!
19:10 * library_systems_guy thinks about bacon
19:10 * cait                is happy now
19:10 cait                  /me
19:10 jcamins_away          ^^ for example
19:10 druthb                library_systems_guy: ... like "/me does blah blah blah"
19:10 jcamins_away          http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/chocolate-chocolate-chip-bacon-cookies/Detail.aspx
19:10 library_systems_guy   i am kinda new to it
19:10 library_systems_guy   how do you do the asterisk bit on irc
19:09 library_systems_guy   so while i delete the VM i totally hosed and create a new one
19:09 * jcamins_away        was just talking to someone about bacon-flavored cookies.
19:07 cait                  will send  a patch soon... (get ready for sign-off ... :) )
19:07 cait                  found another tt issue in labels
19:07 cait                  urgs
19:07 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6306 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , It is not possible edit news
19:07 cait                  bug 6306
19:06 wizzyrea              boo
19:05 oleonard              Bug_6306--
19:05 cait                  :D
19:05 wizzyrea              there isn't much jcamins doesn't have a recipe for
19:05 oleonard              :D
19:05 * cait                is quite sure jared has a recipe for those
19:05 oleonard              jcamins_away probably has some in his cookie jar
19:04 cait                  rofl
19:04 * wizzyrea            faints
19:04 wizzyrea              bacon flavo...
19:04 oleonard              I like kittens who like bacon-flavored cookies!
19:04 cait                  I like kittens and cookies!
19:03 wizzyrea              I like kittens!
19:03 wizzyrea              on to the usual friday banter
19:03 cait                  ok, now that we have those 2 things figured out...
19:03 wizzyrea              gl :D
19:03 cait                  library_systems_guy++
19:01 library_systems_guy   *crosses fingers*
19:01 library_systems_guy   ok ill fix that and let you know
19:01 wizzyrea              permissions :)
19:01 library_systems_guy   damn
19:01 wizzyrea              ah there you have it
19:01 library_systems_guy   so it ended up in /root/koha-dev instead of /home/koha/koha-dev
19:00 library_systems_guy   when i ran the install i did it as root
19:00 library_systems_guy   wizzyrea, There is something odd about the install that just reminded me of something
18:59 cait                  working on it :)
18:59 oleonard              You know, as a b-day present!
18:59 cait                  :)
18:59 wizzyrea              :)
18:59 rangi                 kthxbye
18:59 rangi                 ill be back in a couple of days, have everything fixed when i get back please
18:58 rangi                 s
18:58 rangi                 ok spot ya
18:55 cait                  oh my
18:55 wizzyrea              In the United Kingdom, the ton is a unit of measure which, when it ceased to be legal for trade in 1985, was defined in British legislation as being a weight or mass equal to 2,240 pounds (1,016 kg)
18:55 cait                  why are we talking about tonnen?
18:55 wizzyrea              not in the UK :P
18:55 * cait                looks around confused
18:54 cait                  1 tonne sind 1000 kg...
18:54 wizzyrea              :D
18:54 wizzyrea              sorry... tonnE
18:54 rangi                 :)
18:54 rangi                 tonne
18:54 cait                  but at least I got it cornered...
18:54 wizzyrea              UK crap ton?
18:54 rangi                 a metric crap ton
18:54 cait                  wizzyrea: would have never figured that out
18:54 cait                  what is more than a lot?
18:54 wizzyrea              cait++ for determination in kicking that bug into submission
18:53 rangi                 that is a lot
18:52 rangi                 86k us!!
18:52 rangi                 thanks
18:52 jcamins_away          rangi: happy birthday.
18:52 oleonard              "costly to maintain" seems like an obscure way of saying "they charge a lot for it"
18:49 rangi                 http://dailysparkstribune.com/view/full_story/13340986/article-Writing-the-book-on-efficiency <-- perfect for explaining why kotui was a crazy decision
18:49 cait                  rangi++
18:49 cait                  there must be another line in the batch-edit - but I will locate and repair
18:49 wizzyrea              rangi++
18:49 wizzyrea              yay!
18:49 cait                  yep!!!
18:48 cait                  ok
18:48 rangi                 and it should fix it
18:48 cait                  hehe
18:48 rangi                 without the typo
18:48 rangi                 $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'}
18:47 rangi                 make that
18:47 cait                  whoohoo
18:46 rangi                 thats breaking it
18:46 rangi                 yes, thats it cait
18:46 huginn`               gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #134 added.
18:46 gmcharlt              @quote add <cait> birthday wishes go over crazy bugs :)
18:45 huginn`               gmcharlt: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:45 gmcharlt              @quote add cait> birthday wishes go over crazy bugs :)
18:45 cait                  so this might be the problem?
18:45 cait                  my $branch_code = ($label_element eq 'batch' ? get_branch_code_from_name($template->param('LoginBranchname')) : '');
18:44 rangi                 etc
18:44 rangi                 $template->{VARS}=\%hash;
18:44 rangi                 or my %hash
18:43 sekjal                cool, thanks, rangi, for the heads up on that one.  oh, and happy birthday
18:43 rangi                 just do $template->{VARS}->{'name'}=$value
18:43 rangi                 dont do $template->param
18:42 rangi                 and anyone writing new code
18:42 rangi                 yay
18:42 cait                  now I have an idea an can try to find it :)
18:42 rangi                 so its one worth knowing how to fix
18:42 cait                  yeah could be
18:42 rangi                 same bug might be for guided reports
18:41 cait                  birthday wishes go over crazy bugs :)
18:41 rangi                 thank you all
18:41 rangi                 and wanted to finish my lecture
18:41 rangi                 yes, cos i need to go get in the car soon :)
18:41 rangi                 is how you check a value is set
18:41 cait                  he ignores us :)
18:41 rangi                 $template->{VARS}->{'something'}
18:41 * oleonard            adds "and you smell like one too!"
18:41 cait                  Alles Gute zum Geburtstag für dich... *sing*
18:40 rangi                 never in an if
18:40 * wizzyrea            too
18:40 rangi                 $template->param('something' => 'something');
18:40 * cait                joins in
18:40 * druthb              sings "happy birthday" to rangi
18:40 rangi                 over time we will remove it all, but for now .. only ever use it in this form
18:40 rangi                 but its not how you set/use variables in template toolkit
18:39 rangi                 we have a helper routine
18:39 wizzyrea              happy birthday :D
18:39 rangi                 $template->param is a h::t::p things
18:39 oleonard              Hi rangi, happy birthday!
18:39 cait                  and happy birthday :)
18:39 cait                  I will check
18:39 cait                  !
18:39 rangi                 that doesnt work, and will zero out the value
18:39 sekjal                okay, confirmed the issue
18:39 cait                  branch is there
18:39 cait                  http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/labels/label-manage.pl?label_element=profile
18:39 rangi                 cait: in the perl code is there somethign doing if ($template->param('LoginLibraryname'))
18:38 cait                  but
18:38 cait                  sorry,
18:38 cait                  no, branch is gone
18:38 cait                  http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/labels/label-manage.pl?label_element=batch branch is there
18:38 wizzyrea              (insert your home directory of course)
18:38 cait                  perhaps I am missing something important, but at the moment it's a big mystery to me :(
18:38 cait                  jcamins: it works on other templates in the same module!
18:37 wizzyrea              library_systems_guy: and you have good permissions on /home/koha/koha-dev?
18:37 cait                  and the same template file
18:37 cait                  it's even the same perl file for the one page - label_manage
18:37 cait                  but once you go to batches -- it's lost
18:37 cait                  it's relying on the same variable in the other places
18:36 cait                  it works for all pages in labels - the branch is always there
18:36 cait                  it is a real bug
18:36 cait                  sekjal: I thought that at first too - but it's not true
18:36 cait                  sekjal: I am not
18:36 jcamins_away          Except, some variables aren't set in both copies.
18:36 cait                  but it's not there
18:36 cait                  Current branch: [% LoginLibaryname %]
18:36 sekjal                the second linked listserv post indicates they're logged in as "kohaadmin"
18:35 jcamins_away          The entire subroutine in Auth.pm is duplicated.
18:35 cait                  but one is in the template directly
18:35 cait                  wizzyrea: the variable should show up in 2 places - one is an include indeed
18:35 jcamins_away          At least, that's my guess.
18:35 sekjal                cait: I think they're using the root Koha user, and that's the problem, since that user does not have a defined homebranch
18:35 wizzyrea              i overlook those sometimes.
18:35 jcamins_away          cait: the problem is that it has to be set in two places in Auth.pm.
18:35 wizzyrea              cait maybe the problem is in an include?
18:35 cait                  I hate when I can't locate the problem :(
18:35 cait                  I have stared on the files for hours now
18:34 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6380] Z39.50 Cataloging Search needs a way to try search again, even if results are found <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6380>
18:34 cait                  LoginLibraryname is defined in Auth.pm
18:34 cait                  and that does not work
18:34 cait                  only that $branch_code is not set - but that's the same problem I see on the template, tries to use LoginLibraryName to find out
18:33 cait                  not really an error code no
18:33 cait                  sekjal: any hints for error tracking appreciated too
18:33 sekjal                cait: are there any specific error codes, or is it just that no info is returning?
18:33 library_systems_guy   the only thing the koha error log has to offer is the same dump that shows up in the browser
18:32 cait                  as soon as 'batch'is involved it's broken
18:32 cait                  but I have no idea why
18:32 cait                  it seems the template variables from Auth.pm stop working at some point
18:32 cait                  it's driving me crazy :(
18:31 cait                  sekjal: any chance you could take a look 6343?
18:31 wizzyrea              depending on your install options
18:31 wizzyrea              otherwise it's probably in something like /home/koha/koha-dev/var/log
18:31 sekjal                oleonard:  no idea.  some of the data structure choices from that iteration of the code are... difficult to backtrack
18:31 oleonard              Surely there must be a point at which cleverly efficient code becomes obscure to the point of inefficiency?
18:31 wizzyrea              can you 'locate koha-error_log'
18:30 wizzyrea              you probably need to be looking at the koha logs
18:30 oleonard              Why is there tags_all and tags_approval?
18:30 wizzyrea              right
18:30 library_systems_guy   the standard one
18:30 wizzyrea              or just the apache logs
18:30 library_systems_guy   just the apache error log
18:29 wizzyrea              are you looking at the koha apache logs?
18:29 wizzyrea              no
18:29 oleonard              Maybe I'm too dumb to see the beauty of it, but I REALLY hate this tags code. And the tags table stuctures.
18:29 library_systems_guy   is there python code in Koha?
18:28 * jcamins_away        should probably mention that he is not anywhere that he is looking at Koha installations... please forgive any errors.
18:27 jcamins_away          You're looking for an error message about a directive not being understood.
18:27 jcamins_away          Oh! Check your Apache logs.
18:27 jcamins_away          Hm.
18:27 library_systems_guy   should be set that way...i 777-ed that directory too
18:26 jcamins_away          Shouldn't matter which group.
18:26 library_systems_guy   ok
18:26 jcamins_away          Just public readable.
18:26 library_systems_guy   i have tried it with both
18:26 library_systems_guy   is it www-data or koha for the group
18:26 library_systems_guy   what permissions does the perl5lib need?
18:25 library_systems_guy   me too
18:25 library_systems_guy   as much as i hate to admit to being lazy when it comes to typing....i am
18:25 jcamins_away          Darn, I was hoping there might be an easy answer.
18:25 library_systems_guy   anyway, i just copied and pasted to the command line
18:25 jcamins_away          (someone went through, and corrected the spelling of all the packages so that the words weren't run together a few months ago, then didn't understand why it couldn't find the packages)
18:24 library_systems_guy   what spelling would i have corrected?
18:24 jcamins_away          Okay, just checking that you didn't "correct" spelling.
18:24 library_systems_guy   there was one package that was out of date so i used the new one
18:24 library_systems_guy   to a T
18:24 jcamins_away          library_systems_guy: did you follow the instructions assiduously?
18:23 library_systems_guy   only the dev install
18:23 wizzyrea              but you never reported how you fixed it
18:23 wizzyrea              hm, you had the problem the 1st time you installed koha too
18:23 library_systems_guy   wizzyrea, thats set correctly in the apache config
18:21 * jcamins_away        returns to not being here
18:21 jcamins_away          Do what wizzyrea just said.
18:21 jcamins_away          library_systems_guy: I'm not really here (hence my nick), but it sounds to me like your Apache config might be wrong.
18:21 wizzyrea              SetEnv KOHA_CONF "/blah/blah/koha-conf.xml"
18:20 cait                  :(
18:20 library_systems_guy   i just want to add my new code to the repo :'(
18:19 library_systems_guy   sadly
18:19 library_systems_guy   same thing
18:19 wizzyrea              same thing?
18:19 library_systems_guy   oh, and it didn't work
18:18 wizzyrea              and?
18:18 library_systems_guy   slef, when you get back...I got lazy and just 777-ed the whole directory in a desperation attempt to get it working
18:15 slef                  now really bbl... there is a drink waiting for me ;-)
18:15 slef                  actually -rwxr-----
18:15 slef                  library_systems_guy: and it is -rwxr--r-- ?
18:15 wizzyrea              they have to do with quickslips
18:15 wizzyrea              i'm sad to report that neither of those patches apply to 1232 :/
18:14 wizzyrea              right, but why is it referencing 1232?
18:14 oleonard              wizzyrea: That quick slip stuff is already in master
18:14 library_systems_guy   well i did a chgrp on /root/koha-dev/etc/ to www-data
18:13 slef                  bbl
18:12 slef                  library_systems_guy: www-data (or whatever user is in apache config) can't read the KOHA_CONF maybe?
18:12 cait                  hi druthb
18:12 druthb                o/
18:10 wizzyrea              though despite the subject I don't see anything in there about fines
18:07 wizzyrea              possibly?
18:07 wizzyrea              http://markmail.org/thread/d25nursyxmkqmfzh
18:07 wizzyrea              aha!
18:04 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1232 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add Invoice/Credit/Fines Payed For Day on Issues (Print Page) (Print Slip)
18:04 cait                  bug 1232
18:04 wizzyrea              i'll go look.
18:04 * wizzyrea            urgs
18:04 wizzyrea              right... where's 1/2?
18:04 oleonard              Print Slip."
18:04 oleonard              unable to locate first patch which I assume would add outstanding balance upon
18:04 oleonard              koha-patches mailing list and found code in HEAD.  This is patch 2 of 2 but
18:04 oleonard              "Found this message (http://markmail.org/message/nogrzvxextwkzllk) in
18:02 wizzyrea              cuzn that's awesome
18:02 wizzyrea              wait, where's the patch for 1232?
17:42 library_systems_guy   i think it is a permissions thing because when i run a standard install it work like a dream
17:41 library_systems_guy   has anybody else experienced this?
17:41 library_systems_guy   the error is "Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 680."
17:41 library_systems_guy   everytime i do a dev install and navigate to the ip of my server i get a "software error"
17:40 library_systems_guy   i have a random question that someone might be able to answer...i ran it by rangi a while back but it was right before the 3.4 release and everyones hair was on fire
17:28 nengard               k
17:28 cait                  list them space separated
17:27 cait                  yep
17:27 nengard               so if you have two styles you do a space in the middle
17:27 cait                  but when you list to words like that, it means 2 classes :)
17:27 nengard               oh found it ...
17:27 cait                  I am not sure about firebug's display
17:27 nengard               i'm confused now ... cait if it's 2 classes then why arne't i seeing 2 classes in firebug? only the one? or am i just not looking in the right place?
17:18 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 1232] Add Invoice/Credit/Fines Payed For Day on Issues (Print Page) (Print Slip) <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1232>
17:01 cait                  classes
17:01 cait                  those are 2 clasees
17:00 oleonard              No
17:00 nengard               oleonard, on the check in screen when a message appears it has a class of 'dialog alert' - but firebug sees it as 'dialog' can IDs have spaces in them?  (<div class="dialog alert">)
16:55 wizzyrea              we work around the whole "i want to not click OK, but I still want to be able to use my normal printer sometimes" with portable firefox. We never had much luck with profiles (too complicated for our peeps)
16:55 jcamins_away          oleonard++ # great pun
16:54 wizzyrea              never mind :)
16:54 wizzyrea              I suppose that might be bad, because not everyone would want it to come out on their default printer
16:54 wizzyrea              right, but could the same deal be used for the slips?
16:54 oleonard              Embedding js in a pdf to trigger automatic printing sounds like a recipe for mischief
16:52 wizzyrea              http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3056876/print-from-chrome-without-the-print-dialogs-using-greasemonkey-userscript-maybe
16:52 wizzyrea              oleonard, this is something to think about for the slips:
16:51 wizzyrea              if anybody wants to look up how to do that in chrome, that'd be cool :p
16:49 wizzyrea              receipt printing is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Configure_Automatic_Receipt_Printing
16:49 wizzyrea              receipt printing?
16:48 * oleonard            did not know that.
16:47 wizzyrea              ;) np
16:47 nengard               oh! thanks!
16:47 nengard               the how is up to someone else
16:47 wizzyrea              http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Configure_Automatic_Receipt_Printing
16:47 nengard               that's all i needed to know :)
16:47 nengard               k
16:47 wizzyrea              at least in firefox
16:47 wizzyrea              it's completely possible
16:47 wizzyrea              yep
16:47 nengard               with no confirmation dialog or anything?
16:47 nengard               does anyone know if it's possible to have something print automatically from the browser
16:42 jcamins_away          And there are a couple of languages in Siberia that are related.
16:41 jcamins_away          Finnish and Estonian.
16:41 * oleonard            remembers being told its closest relative was Finnish
16:40 jcamins_away          It's pretty confounding.
16:40 * oleonard            visited Budapest years ago and was confounded by the language
16:40 jcamins_away          We learned a few other phrases last time we were there, but they've all been forgotten.
16:39 jcamins_away          oleonard: I know how to say "thank you very much."
16:38 oleonard              jcamins_away: Do you know Hungarian?
16:38 jcamins_away          cait: thanks. We're very excited. :)
16:37 wizzyrea              let me do 1 bit of branch maintenance then I'll look too
16:37 wizzyrea              yikes!
16:37 * cait                wants to cry and stomp her foot because she can't figure out what's wrong
16:37 * oleonard            is going mad staring at this tags code
16:37 wizzyrea              trying to remember
16:37 wizzyrea              oleonard++ thanks, i was going mad.
16:37 oleonard              git branch -m
16:36 wizzyrea              ok, what's that thing you do to rename a branch?
16:36 cait                  jcamins_away: ok, just in case it's true - hope you have a fantastic time in Budapest :)
16:34 wizzyrea              :)
16:34 sekjal                wizzyrea++ (for providing a test plan along with her bug report)
16:34 jcamins_away          cait: training, training, honeymoon, training, ALA.
16:33 jcamins_away          oleonard: end of June.
16:33 jcamins_away          And I'm not entirely here, anyway.
16:33 oleonard              When's ALA?
16:33 cait                  the big vacation?
16:33 cait                  oh
16:33 jcamins_away          This may be the only time I'm on #koha before ALA.
16:33 cait                  he is always away
16:32 wizzyrea              >.>
16:32 wizzyrea              wait I thought you were gone
16:32 wizzyrea              oo
16:32 jcamins_away          Maybe.
16:32 jcamins_away          SELECT COUNT(*) FROM old_issues WHERE returndate > date_due;
16:31 cait                  not sure all those fields are in there
16:31 cait                  old issues return date... and due date comparison?
16:31 cait                  um
16:30 wizzyrea              (this seems like a relatively insane stat to count)
16:30 wizzyrea              is there a way to count number of overdues returned?
16:28 oleonard              I wish I could sleep for 13 hours, 30 minutes, and 48 seconds
16:28 cait                  ugh
16:27 huginn`               cait: chris_n was last seen in #koha 4 days, 13 hours, 30 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <chris_n> g'night #koha
16:27 cait                  @seen chris_n
16:24 conan                 oleonard: cool stuff that Data::Dumper, but it was enough with the warns so far. I'll check that later
16:24 cait                  s
16:24 cait                  but something not so obviouw
16:24 cait                  probably both tt problems
16:23 cait                  oh :(
16:23 wizzyrea              I thought it did but it didn't
16:23 wizzyrea              no, I didn't because it didn't fix it :(
16:23 cait                  did you send a patch for the guided reports thing?
16:23 * wizzyrea            looks at the clock, no rapture yet in his time zone
16:22 cait                  summoning does not work today
16:22 cait                  hm.
16:22 cait                  chris_n
16:22 cait                  there was a space
16:22 cait                  don't think so :)
16:22 wizzyrea              >.<
16:21 wizzyrea              i mean, gah I hope that wasn't me !
16:21 wizzyrea              no!
16:21 huginn`               wizzyrea: Karma for "chris_n" has been increased 190 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 189.
16:21 wizzyrea              @karma chris_n
16:21 wizzyrea              ?!
16:21 oleonard              uh wha?
16:21 wahanui               chris_n  has neutral karma
16:21 oleonard              karma chris_n
16:20 wizzyrea              chris_n++ just in case :P
16:19 wizzyrea              golly I hope that didn't dincrement him :/
16:19 wizzyrea              er
16:19 wizzyrea              chris_n -- we need you!
16:19 wizzyrea              *nod*
16:19 cait                  hmpf.
16:19 cait                  I want it gone
16:19 cait                  it's evil
16:19 cait                  on the labels bug
16:18 wizzyrea              nooo
16:18 * cait                gives up
16:18 cait                  grr
16:18 wizzyrea              gr
16:17 wahanui               i already had it that way, huginn`.
16:17 huginn`               wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
16:17 wizzyrea              @test
16:15 huginn`               hdl: downloading the Perl source
16:15 hdl                   @test
16:13 huginn`               wizzyrea: I've exhausted my database of quotes
16:13 wizzyrea              @something blah
16:13 wizzyrea              tee hee
16:13 huginn`               wizzyrea: I suck
16:13 wizzyrea              @something blah
16:13 wizzyrea              I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is <reply>
16:13 wahanui               wizzyrea: I forgot i'll give you the answer as soon as rda
16:13 wizzyrea              wahanui: forget I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA
16:12 wahanui               i already had it that way, huginn`.
16:12 huginn`               hdl: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
16:12 hdl                   @francharb++ for the song and his restless work
16:09 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6380 enhancement, P5, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Z39.50 Cataloging Search needs a way to try search again, even if results are found
16:09 wizzyrea              bug 6380
16:09 wizzyrea              just didn't want to duplicate work if you had already started one
16:08 wizzyrea              rhcl: don't worry about the bug, I'm filing one now.
16:06 wizzyrea              k back
16:04 cait                  and I don't see why
16:04 cait                  does not
16:04 cait                  http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/labels/label-manage.pl?label_element=batch
16:04 cait                  ut
16:04 cait                  will show the current branch perfectly
16:03 cait                  http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/labels/label-manage.pl?label_element=profile
16:03 cait                  the thing is, this page:
16:03 cait                  any ideas appreciated
16:03 cait                  someone willing to?
16:03 cait                  and I want to solve it but need help
16:03 cait                  we have this evil bug in labels
16:03 cait                  ok
16:02 wizzyrea              afk just a min.
16:01 wizzyrea              rhcl did you add a bug for that "try search again" enhancement that I'm currently formulating a patch for?
16:01 library_systems_guy   but you guys are the pros
16:00 library_systems_guy   i figured it would be pretty easy to just drop a seperate file in the install_misc dir to have one for lenny and squeeze
15:59 wizzyrea              not sure if there's anything pending for that though
15:59 wizzyrea              not hard to add by any stretch
15:58 library_systems_guy   http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Install-dep-deb
15:58 library_systems_guy   the shell script that works with squeeze and not lenny
15:57 wizzyrea              which script
15:57 library_systems_guy   what are the chances of getting that squeeze script added to the release?
15:56 cait                  talljoy_++
15:56 library_systems_guy   talljoy_++
15:56 wizzyrea              talljoy_++
15:53 talljoy_              glad to help.
15:53 library_systems_guy   im glad I ran into you talljoy_
15:53 library_systems_guy   ahh ok, yeah i just found the wiki.  Seems to be working minus a permissions issue
15:52 talljoy_              http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze  This one helped too.  My problem was related to my sources.list file
15:51 library_systems_guy   ok thanks talljoy_
15:51 talljoy_              library_systems_guy:  those instructions from the log helped me.  the ones from 5/13.  Let me find the other link that helped
15:50 talljoy_              http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/search.pl?channel=koha&nick=talljoy&q=
15:46 library_systems_guy   http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze_(Git_Method)
15:46 cait                  creates a new record...
15:46 cait                  in our 3.2.2 the overlay does not work using the javascript import button
15:46 cait                  jcamins: not sure, but I have a bug report to write
15:46 library_systems_guy   ohh i think i see something
15:46 jcamins_away          (for other people)
15:46 jcamins_away          When using the Z39.50 copy cataloging, does the Javascript clicky thing work in the LCCN box?
15:45 wizzyrea              sec, logs!
15:45 wizzyrea              i'm kind of remembering this conversation
15:45 talljoy_              let me power up my ancient laptop where it resides.
15:45 talljoy_              if I'm not mistaken, it had something to do with my sources.list
15:45 library_systems_guy   ok wizzyrea ill see what talljoy_ has
15:45 cait                  strnage thing is, it's only broken when you do something with batch
15:45 wizzyrea              squeeze then, so whatever talljoy_ did will probably fix it
15:45 cait                  which seems to be defined globally in Auth.pm
15:45 cait                  the problem seems to be that it does not get LibraryBranchname
15:44 library_systems_guy   the latest
15:44 cait                  I stared on the files for one hour this morning and I have no clue
15:44 library_systems_guy   wizzyrea, im not sure
15:44 cait                  can someone help me with the new batch problem in labels creator?
15:44 library_systems_guy   thanks talljoy_
15:44 talljoy_              library-system_guy: i just did a recent install.  had that same problem.  let me check my notes
15:44 wizzyrea              are you running lenny or squeeze?
15:43 library_systems_guy   E: Package 'libyaz-dev' has no installation candidate
15:43 cait                  you are right... looking at my keyboard there is no e on me e key
15:43 library_systems_guy   i get an error when running the apt-get-debian-lenny.sh script
15:42 gmcharlt              oleonard: and saves that poor, overworked 'e' key
15:42 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1561 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , z39.50 results do not show search terms
15:42 cait                  bug 1561
15:42 sekjal                oleonard:  that's a feature!  It makes the statement 15% more efficient!
15:42 wizzyrea              that one will take me longer to figure out I think, but probably doable
15:42 library_systems_guy   has anybody done a debian clean install recently?
15:41 wizzyrea              yes, I do
15:41 cait                  wizzyrea: you like the idea?
15:41 * oleonard            shakes his fist at the missing e in Perl's elsif
15:40 francharb             ;)
15:40 cait                  mention a cookie here and there and you will be fine
15:40 francharb             ;)
15:40 francharb             bye cait
15:40 francharb             i should talk more about koha over here!
15:39 cait                  bye francharb :)
15:39 francharb             ;)
15:39 francharb             http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q36D6d5-0iI&feature=share
15:39 francharb             don't forget, the song of the week end, maybe of the summer is :
15:39 francharb             bye all
15:39 francharb             i'm leaving! weeeek eeennnnd
15:38 wizzyrea              oo
15:37 cait                  I looked at it but had no idea how to display it nicely
15:37 cait                  there is an enhancement request on bugzilla about showing what was searched for on the result list
15:37 cait                  wizzyrea++
15:32 * wizzyrea            goes ahead and fixes all of the error conditions to have that function
15:32 wizzyrea              cool beans
15:32 oleonard              wizzyrea++ # Yes
15:31 wizzyrea              oleonard: do you approve of this? (on the results of the z39.50 cataloging search) http://screencast.com/t/nMMxw8jB
15:29 rhcl                  wizzyrea++ try another search!
15:29 oleonard              So really we should remove the link from unapproved or rejected tags in the "my tags" table
15:27 oleonard              I guess you can still see the items in your list, you just can't click the tag to search for them.
15:27 gmcharlt              for personal use, perhaps
15:25 oleonard              Why does the OPAC tags page show the user his rejected tags along with his approved ones?
15:24 wizzyrea              (all x number of them)
15:24 wizzyrea              usually dumping the hold to the end
15:24 wizzyrea              changing the priority causes all kinds of muck
15:24 wizzyrea              cancelling one cancels both
15:23 wizzyrea              you dont get dupe items delivered, for example
15:23 wizzyrea              so if you fill one, you fill both
15:23 wizzyrea              though the holds are functionally identical, and to the reserves code, it thinks there's only one
15:22 wizzyrea              (fyi, in the grand scheme of things I know there are bigger fish than this to fry)
15:22 wizzyrea              yea, it looks like that's what's going on
15:22 sekjal                I assume that the "add hold" subroutine is triggering twice... perhaps adding the check to see if it's POSSIBLE to add before doing the addition?
15:22 wizzyrea              lol
15:21 oleonard              atz I'm looking at you :P
15:21 * oleonard            finds the tags code extra-Perlishly obscure.
15:20 wizzyrea              urg it helps if you SAVE your file before re-testing. oy.
15:20 oleonard              It might be a job for an modal overlay which could be manually closed in case the browser was choking.
15:19 wizzyrea              hmm
15:19 oleonard              This was in Koha 2.x
15:19 wizzyrea              or it's a recent removal
15:19 wizzyrea              modern browsers better about that?
15:18 wizzyrea              oof
15:18 oleonard              ...the button gets disabled without submitting the form
15:18 oleonard              The trouble with those is that if the browser only half-registers your click (no idea why they can do that)...
15:18 wizzyrea              and it doesn't now because...
15:18 oleonard              ...which Koha used to have
15:18 wizzyrea              i consider "thingie" totally valid usage :P
15:18 wizzyrea              good idea
15:18 * gmcharlt            is having slight vocabulary issues today
15:18 wizzyrea              yes
15:18 wizzyrea              oo
15:17 gmcharlt              or one of those JS disable-the-submit-button-after-clicking thingies?
15:17 * wizzyrea            is blathering
15:16 wizzyrea              you could still do it, but it would no longer be a display anomaly
15:16 wizzyrea              as a new hold would get a new unique number, so deleting one wouldn't delete both
15:16 wizzyrea              though fixing that one would "fix" the double click
15:14 wizzyrea              the backing up one is a harder fix I think
15:14 oleonard              Oh yeah, that's what I was thinking of. Not the backing up one.
15:13 wizzyrea              same idea tho
15:13 wizzyrea              double clicking the hold button in the opac creates dupes
15:12 wizzyrea              no, as in http://screencast.com/t/x9KkfjlM
15:12 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5144 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Duplicate holds allowed if patron clicks back button after placing hold
15:12 oleonard              As in Bug 5144?
15:11 wizzyrea              we need a "your request has been submitted, please wait" catch for the place hold on the opac
15:09 cait                  hi #koha :)
15:09 oleonard              Oh boy, another use of the word cloud.
15:08 wizzyrea              http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=15711
14:52 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6378] Misaligned columns on tags approval page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6378>
14:52 oleonard              I love naively optimistic FIXMEs from years ago.
14:40 * wizzyrea            imagines a swarm of amorous potties
14:40 oleonard              Yeah, lots of "loo"s in the templates now
14:40 kf                    :)
14:40 kf                    p
14:39 wizzyrea              "breeding_loo" for example
14:39 wizzyrea              some of these TT variable names crack me up
14:36 kf                    weekend time - bye all :)
14:27 magnuse               see ya later, #koha!
14:23 oleonard              That was what I guessed but didn't verify
14:23 kf                    oleonard: I think they display in the sequence you add them (keyword-to-marc-mapping)
14:20 slef                  so basically, that should rock once we get to it
14:20 wizzyrea              Template::Toolkit++ (really, I like it)
14:20 slef                  INCLUDE_PATH :)))
14:18 slef                  rocks
14:18 wahanui               template toolkit is apt-get install libtemplate-perl or http://tt2.org/
14:18 slef                  template toolkit?
14:18 wizzyrea              :)
14:18 wahanui               okay, slef.
14:18 slef                  wahanui: template toolkit is also http://tt2.org/
14:18 wizzyrea              slef: is also
14:18 wahanui               druthb: I forgot druthb
14:18 druthb                wahanui:  forget druthb
14:18 wahanui               ...but template toolkit is apt-get install libtemplate-perl...
14:18 slef                  wahanui: template toolkit is http://tt2.org/
14:18 druthb                lol
14:18 wahanui               you are probably a well-defined figment of my imagination
14:18 druthb                wahanui: druthb?
14:18 wizzyrea              he should list the customization preferences when asked about CSS
14:18 library_systems_guy   yeah thats what i do oleonard but i was more thinking for the users that aren't good at doing stuff like that
14:17 wahanui               oleonard: sorry...
14:17 oleonard              wahanui has never heard of css.
14:17 wizzyrea              right, i'm just reiterating that maintaining separate templates sucks
14:17 oleonard              css?
14:17 library_systems_guy   lol @ slef and wahanui
14:17 library_systems_guy   oh yeah i definitly do use the theming functions
14:17 slef                  not the best answer but I can work with that
14:17 wahanui               i heard template toolkit was apt-get install libtemplate-perl
14:17 slef                  template toolkit?
14:16 wizzyrea              and this
14:16 slef                  Does TT have something like {% base "othertheme/template.tt" %}?
14:16 wahanui               jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library
14:16 wizzyrea              jquery library?
14:16 wizzyrea              those customization preferences are there for a reason, use em :P
14:16 library_systems_guy   lol i agree with wizzyrea
14:16 wizzyrea              a lot.
14:16 wizzyrea              ^^ which SUCKS
14:16 oleonard              library_systems_guy: The trouble is then you have to do the hard work of maintaining a separate version of the templates
14:16 slef                  only one is in releases at the mo because there aren't enough themers to support more... maybe that will change with the TT switchover
14:15 oleonard              There may be some glitches, but it's technically doable.
14:15 library_systems_guy   well i mean more of a drupal like theming
14:15 wizzyrea              in a fashion, yes
14:15 slef                  err, they are, aren't they?
14:14 library_systems_guy   has the community considered switchable opac themes?
14:13 library_systems_guy   thanks nengard
14:13 wizzyrea              more for the blog post.
14:13 oleonard              Thanks wahanui :P
14:12 wahanui               not screwing up? i also made it all the way to work without falling down! has neutral karma
14:12 oleonard              Oh, karma for not screwing up? I also made it all the way to work without falling down!
14:12 nengard               library_systems_guy, not only have we probably made the same mistakes - but we're friendly cause we want new developers!!! Fresh blood :) hehe
14:12 wizzyrea              and oleonard has a great blog post about a sane git workflow
14:12 wizzyrea              oleonard++
14:12 * oleonard            is pleased to say it's been a while since he had to nuke a whole repo out of desperation
14:12 slef                  best thing about git - you can pull a full unscrewed repo off your backup disk!
14:11 wizzyrea              i'm still making them :P
14:11 wizzyrea              so. very. many.
14:11 wizzyrea              I have made so many git mistakes.
14:11 slef                  library_systems_guy: fail your way forwards...
14:11 slef                  (despite being the first(?) dev to advocate git here)
14:11 library_systems_guy   jk, no i really do want to help by contributing code but i want to make sure i have all the stuff right
14:11 wizzyrea              s/slef/wizzyrea
14:10 wizzyrea              ^^ yes, and that :)
14:10 slef                  and 3. slef has forgotten how to do it and should be reminded before he screws it up again.
14:10 library_systems_guy   yayyy im glad my git ignorance can make the community a better place :p
14:09 wizzyrea              so getting it answered helps everybody :)
14:09 wizzyrea              library_systems_guy: please, never ever be afraid to ask questions about git. It is extremely likely that 1. someone has had your problem and 2. someone else is about to :P
14:08 library_systems_guy   will do :)
14:08 wizzyrea              that would be easier for you
14:07 * druthb              is a loveable girl.
14:06 library_systems_guy   should i just do a dev install so i can make changes and commit?
14:06 * wizzyrea            runs around flailing DISASTER DISASTER... oh
14:06 library_systems_guy   if i don't have a 'dev' install
14:06 * wizzyrea            has done that :)
14:06 wizzyrea              copy, not move
14:06 nengard               library_systems_guy what wizzzyrea said
14:06 * slef                boggles. huginn` loves druthb
14:05 library_systems_guy   and there are 2 files with the same name in different directories in my checkout dir
14:05 wizzyrea              you can copy the file into your dev directory
14:05 library_systems_guy   i made the change in my production directory
14:05 library_systems_guy   nengard, I have a patch I want to commit :) but i think i made a mistake
14:05 paul_p                nengard, what did you mark resolved ? jesus timezone ? :D :D
14:05 nengard               np
14:05 oleonard              Thanks for checking nengard
14:04 nengard               oleonard i have marked it resolved
14:04 paul_p                slef, will think of doing that, but after he has paid the - 20k€ - bill ;-)
14:04 huginn`               druthb: The operation succeeded.  Quote #132 added.
14:04 druthb                @quote add <oleonard> nengard: It depends what time zone Jesus uses I think
14:03 huginn`               slef: I suck
14:03 slef                  huginn`: you suck!
14:03 slef                  paul_p: fire the customer ;-)
14:03 huginn`               wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
14:03 wizzyrea              @quote add <oleonard> nengard: It depends what time zone Jesus uses I think
14:03 nengard               slef, not me ... i don't think
14:03 paul_p                would have less pain learning chinese I think...
14:02 slef                  wizzyrea or nengard: does huginn` listen to you? can you add that quote please? It's worth it.
14:02 * paul_p              on a fight with a silly/crazy/boring/hard/stupid customer those days...
14:02 nengard               oleonard hang on ... conference call
14:02 paul_p                (hello world)
14:01 paul_p                oleonard, we should ask rangi, it's already tomorrow for him...
14:01 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6161 major, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , status column on my purchase suggestions blank
14:01 oleonard              nengard: Can you still reproduce Bug 6161?
13:59 huginn`               slef: downloading the Perl source
13:59 slef                  huginn`: screw you!
13:59 huginn`               slef: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
13:59 slef                  @quote add <oleonard> nengard: It depends what time zone Jesus uses I think
13:56 wizzyrea              s/store/floor
13:56 * wizzyrea            plans to leave a set of clothes on the store in the grocery store just for comedic effect
13:55 oleonard              It's like boarding a flight, there's different zones so we don't crowd the walkway.
13:54 druthb                I heard one that said it'd be on a moving basis, at 1800 local time in each zone...which means that US folk will have many hours warning, while the NZ folk will find out Real Fast.  I asked Space_Librarian to let me know...
13:53 oleonard              If it's 00:00:00 GMT Saturday then that's Friday night for us in the US.
13:52 nengard               Bri said it's on a billboard on his way to work
13:52 nengard               HA!
13:52 kf                    oh no, and I had plans for tomorro
13:52 druthb                what oleonard said.   Yeah, I've heard various times, but most of them are tomorrow.
13:52 oleonard              nengard: It depends what time zone Jesus uses I think
13:51 nengard               i thought it was today
13:51 oleonard              kf: There's a crazy preacher in the US who says that the second coming of Jesus is tomorrow.
13:51 kf                    still no idea
13:51 kf                    hm
13:51 kf                    perhaps I should start with looking up rapture
13:51 kf                    can someone enlighten me?
13:50 kf                    ok
13:50 oleonard              :D
13:50 druthb                If you can't think of a good rapture joke in the next day or so, don't worry; it's not the end of the world....oh.
13:50 slef                  thanks, got the email
13:48 kf                    oleonard: will add it to my list - thx!
13:48 slef                  email address
13:48 kf                    oleonard: sorry, working on css :)
13:48 slef                  Can someone msg me an email for Frédéric Demians please?
13:48 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6347] Bug in opac-reserve.pl stopping item level holds <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6347>
13:48 oleonard              Oh, and I think once I danced to Rock and Roll music.
13:47 druthb                dern near perfect, tha both of you.
13:47 oleonard              No, this one time I had an impure thought. Fleeting though it was.
13:47 wizzyrea              !
13:47 * druthb              is still here; I would have suspected wizzyrea and oleonard to be prime candidates for Rapturing.
13:46 * sekjal              is in a staff meeting, but still lurking
13:46 * wizzyrea            is still here
13:46 oleonard              Oh no everyone has been raptured and I'm stuck with all the bugs.
13:45 oleonard              Quiet, everyone, I can barely hear myself think!
13:40 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6347 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , Bug in opac-reserve.pl stopping item level holds
13:40 oleonard              kf: Revised fix for Bug 6347 submitted
13:30 sekjal                hi, slef
13:29 slef                  sekjal: yo!
12:44 gmcharlt              optional, of course
12:44 gmcharlt              and warn Dumper \@holdingsfields; will look slighly better
12:38 oleonard              But not required :P
12:38 magnuse               but it should work fine for the plain ones too ;-)
12:36 oleonard              that's for more complex data structures than plain variables
12:35 oleonard              Sorry for the terrible formatting.
12:35 oleonard              see whats in there
12:35 oleonard
12:35 oleonard              19:55
12:35 oleonard
12:35 oleonard              warn Dumper @holdingsfields;
12:35 oleonard
12:35 oleonard              19:55
12:35 oleonard
12:35 oleonard              use Data::Dumper;
12:35 oleonard
12:35 oleonard              19:54
12:35 oleonard
12:35 oleonard              heres a quick way to check
12:35 oleonard              rangi
12:35 oleonard              19:54
12:35 oleonard              Found this in the IRC log:
12:35 oleonard              conan: There's more complex debugging methods, but I'm not proficient with them.
12:31 conan                 oleonard++
12:25 oleonard              conan: If you use "warn" it shows up in the logs
12:24 conan                 lets see...
12:24 conan                 now I'm looking into google, and found a Debug.pm module, but havent' read anything yet
12:24 oleonard              warn $variable;
12:24 conan                 I searched the wiki, but nothing
12:24 conan                 how do you debug, test variable values in koha? I tried dying with the variable but I get a 500 code error page, I tried creating my own log file and I stomped into some permission issues
12:23 conan                 I was sitting here waiting to jump on someone :P
12:22 conan                 hi oleonard
12:21 oleonard              Hi #koha
11:35 conan                 hi everysoul
11:30 francharb             vfernandes: as slef said, xslt seems a better option, i dont think there  conditionals like "IF 700$a IS NULL..." within ISBD syspref. If you ckeck out the ISBD code and find out a way to do it, i'm interested!  ;)
11:08 slef                  xslt :-/
11:05 vfernandes            because i can't see another way to do what i want
11:02 vfernandes            I think i will do it hardcoded
11:01 magnuse               maybe find the code that renders it and look for documentation/comments there?
11:01 vfernandes            with ISBD my ISBD detail page is almost correct
11:01 magnuse               i have no experience with it, but there seems to be all sorts of trickery going on
11:00 vfernandes            yes
11:00 magnuse               vfernandes: are you thinking about the ISBD syspref?
10:52 vfernandes            :| i really need to know that
10:47 kf                    vfernandes: sorry, don't know
10:45 vfernandes            anyone?
10:39 kf                    cool :)
10:38 vfernandes            one question with Koha ISBD... it's possible to list one field if another is null? for example present 200 if 700 is null
10:36 magnuse               kf: http://imgur.com/a/NEM8T
10:35 kf                    can I see it too?
10:32 vfernandes            thanks :)
10:31 francharb             good job!
10:31 magnuse               now if koha could offer that as a "skin", maybe with a choice of different colour-combinations...
10:31 vfernandes            the original Staff Client it's too "white" and the objective was to give him some colours...
10:30 francharb             ;)
10:30 vfernandes            i think that Staff Client is pretty good :)
10:29 francharb             i'm jealous! ;)
10:29 francharb             for sure!
10:28 magnuse               vfernandes: thanks, thats plenty for getting an impression!
10:28 francharb             vfernandes++
10:28 vfernandes            sorry for the few screenshots... i have work to do
10:24 slef                  because of the latest stuff I want to spend all day on koha marketing work but I've already a full schedule :-/
10:24 * slef                applauds rangi
10:23 slef                  francharb: ah, I don't get the gallery on a mobile phone unless I ask for it :)
10:23 magnuse               \o
10:22 druthb                hiya, rangi!  :D
10:21 rangi                 hi druthb
10:21 * rangi               finished packing
10:21 druthb                o/
10:21 rangi                 vfernandes: looks very good
10:19 vfernandes            http://imgur.com/a/NEM8T
10:18 vfernandes            and some of them are in portuguese. I forgot to change it :)
10:17 vfernandes            that's a screenshot problem and not a page problem
10:17 vfernandes            i'm uploading them but the images have a little problem... the bottom bar with the languages and the company logo sometimes is on the middle of the page
10:08 francharb             'on the "view images" on the right)
10:07 francharb             slef: imgur looks great, but the first picture is a naked butt! :) lol
10:06 francharb             vfernandes: i'm quite interesting to see those screenshots too!  you could share it via http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add  ;)
09:57 magnuse               if your template changes could be useful for others too you could consider submitting them as a partch - getting them into koha would make future upgrades easier for you ;-)
09:57 slef                  vfernandes: imgur.com
09:52 vfernandes            *screenshots (my english today is very bad)
09:51 vfernandes            give your emails and i will send to you some screenchosts
09:48 magnuse               just a plain ol' screenshot would be cool
09:44 slef                  I've too many other fish to fry today :(
09:44 slef                  But no, I don't need much detail. I was just curious to see ;-)
09:43 slef                  I'd hope that the FOSS gitso project is more likely to be used here than Microsoft Skype.
09:37 vfernandes            with Skype I can show it to you...
09:37 magnuse               not on this machine, currently...
09:36 vfernandes            do you have Skype?
09:36 magnuse               cool
09:36 vfernandes            just to make the css work better because of the main page structure
09:35 magnuse               what kind of template changes? to change the layout directly, or just to make css work better?
09:35 vfernandes            *i thnik
09:35 vfernandes            i thing that for design i only changed the mainpage of Staff Client
09:34 magnuse               is curious now...
09:33 vfernandes            it's done with CSS and a few templates changes (2 or 3)
09:33 magnuse               never underestimate the power of eye candy!
09:33 magnuse               ooh, backoffice design work - is it done with css? can you share it?
09:32 vfernandes            the backoffice has a lot of design work but i don't know how to show it... maybe i can send to you some screenshots
09:30 vfernandes            http://backoffice.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt
09:30 vfernandes            http://catalogo.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt
09:30 vfernandes            do you want to see it?
09:26 slef                  vfernandes: no probs. Do you have a link to you or your library?
09:22 vfernandes            thanks slef
09:19 slef                  but I'd expect some libraries wouldn't want an OPAC to list their current subscriptions
09:18 slef                  In the staff client, you can show a list of subscriptions (is that a report? I forget)
09:18 slef                  OTTOMH I don't remember how... you can limit to serials and also recent arrivals, which would be almost the same thing
09:17 vfernandes            it's possible to search in the OPAC or Staff Client the records that have subsciptions/periodicals?
09:16 vfernandes            just one question slef
09:16 slef                  to see if any UNIMARC users can shed light
09:16 slef                  might be worth a quick mail to the list
09:16 vfernandes            anyway i will not waste more time in this because it's not a srious problem
09:15 vfernandes            in more options mode there is a year limit and if I search "1999" the search return the same than in OPAC
09:14 vfernandes            yes but nothing found
09:10 slef                  vfernandes: have you tried searching http://bugs.koha-community.org for "publication date" bugs?
09:10 slef                  vfernandes: sounds like zebra config and maybe a slight difference in the two search codes.
09:09 vfernandes            it's this correct?
09:08 vfernandes            :/
09:08 vfernandes            in Staff Client return all records with XXX^X = 1999
09:07 vfernandes            in OPAC searching for "1999" (for example) returns all records with 210^d = 1999
09:07 vfernandes            one problem- when searching on the Staff Client for publication date the Koha search in alll record fields and should only sarch on field 210^d (UNIMARC)
09:05 slef                  hi vfernandes
09:02 vfernandes            hi koha community
08:49 slef                  also, there's Liblimey Koha 4.2 being advertised
08:48 slef                  there are a few others around it, but NYAAAAAAARGH
08:48 kmkale                thanks slef
08:47 slef                  kmkale: http://mobile.twitter.com/oleonard/statuses/71259497359872001
08:46 slef                  kmkale: 1mo and I'll grab it
08:45 kmkale                what tweets?
08:43 kf                    hdl1: a button would be nice, but I expected diving into the tables :)
08:43 kf                    hdl1: it's ok
08:43 sijobl                hopefully no eagles
08:43 sijobl                and eagles
08:42 rangi                 thank you
08:40 liw                   rangi, I wish you a lack of raptors for your birthday
08:40 rangi                 :)
08:39 francharb             ;)
08:39 * francharb           goes back to work
08:39 francharb             history  of jamaican music is fascinating
08:37 francharb             hey rangi, you like reggae, right? if it's your bday tomorrow, hope someone will give you this book! http://www.amazon.com/Bass-Culture-When-Reggae-King/dp/0670855634
08:37 hdl1                  at the moment at least.
08:37 hdl1                  nothing done on that iirc.
08:37 hdl1                  kf....
08:31 kf                    hm. will have to go and check the tables
08:30 kf                    they have items created on order
08:30 kf                    someone an idea about undoing a receive in acq?
08:26 rangi                 yay!
08:26 kf                    rangi: thx for the tip with hauraki :) I am working ont he layout for the new library and have the picture in place now - work my way from top to bottom
08:25 * kf                  thinks she will have to bring a suitcase full of chocolate to nz next time
08:25 kf                    thx SpaceLibrarian_home :)
08:24 * SpaceLibrarian_home will make sure there is chocolate on rangi's desk on Tuesday
08:23 * kf                  sends rangi chocolate
08:23 rangi                 gotta laugh
08:23 rangi                 its my present
08:23 rangi                 my bday tomorrow
08:23 kf                    so you were kind of lucky
08:22 kf                    ruined my evening
08:22 slef                  morning all. what lovely tweets to wake up to :-/
07:44 kmkale                :)
07:44 huginn`               kmkale: Quote #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.... eventually, ye shall stop asking." (added by gmcharlt at 08:31 PM, July 09, 2009)
07:44 kmkale                @quote random
07:30 SpaceLibrarian_home   thanks kf, will do
07:29 kf                    SpaceLibrarian_home: sorry no - perhaps try to ask gmcharlt
07:27 kmkale                that too in India :)
07:27 SpaceLibrarian_home   anybody know if the koha-wiki is sending out verification emails yet?
07:26 kmkale                whats mere things compared to Kohacon?
07:26 kf                    I have some things to figure out first
07:24 kmkale                please do :)
07:23 kf                    I don't have decided yet
07:23 kmkale                kf will you be attending kohacon ?
07:22 kf                    hi kmkale
07:21 kmkale                hi kf :)
07:19 kf                    :)
07:19 kf                    hi SpaceLibrarian_home
07:18 SpaceLibrarian_home   hi kf
07:18 SpaceLibrarian_home   :) It's got to be confirmed before I can sort travel.
07:17 kf                    hi #koha
07:16 kmkale                cause it will be cheaper
07:16 kmkale                You should get your travel sorted out asap
07:16 SpaceLibrarian_home   excellent. will still get my abstract off soon
07:16 kmkale                yep
07:16 SpaceLibrarian_home   did you move it again? heaps of time then?
07:15 kmkale                SpaceLibrarian_home: deadline is Aug 15th I think lotsa time
07:14 francharb             Sleep tight BobB! ;)
07:14 SpaceLibrarian_home   have a good weekend, BobB
07:14 BobB                  Cheers everyone.
07:13 BobB                  This channel is amazing.  francharb says 'good morning' as I say 'good night'.  :)
07:13 francharb             hi rangi, SpaceLibrarian_home! :)
07:13 SpaceLibrarian_home   morning francharb, miguelxercode
07:12 rangi                 hi miguelxercode and francharb
07:12 francharb             morning everyone
07:12 BobB                  I have to go and exercise before dinner.  kmkale I'll hear from you by email?
07:11 BobB                  Cool.  We can make that.
07:10 SpaceLibrarian_home   BobB: sometime around June 23, I think
07:10 BobB                  irma and I will contribute at least one paper.  It might be a few weeks before we can submit.  Deadline's a way off yet, I think?
07:10 rangi                 i have 2 other confs to speak at at the same time kmkale
07:08 kmkale                both for papers and money :)
07:08 kmkale                Officially my holidays start tomorrow so I will start the pestering pronto :)
07:07 SpaceLibrarian_home   lol
07:07 kmkale                hehe
07:07 wahanui               i heard say rangi was CRAZY!
07:07 kmkale                what say rangi?
07:07 SpaceLibrarian_home   you may have to.
07:06 kmkale                I hev still jot given up on rangi coming here :)
07:06 kmkale                I am hoping Bob / Irma, Paul, Savitra who are sure to attend will make one each ;)
07:06 SpaceLibrarian_home   you may even be able to get rangi to do a vid-presentation
07:05 kmkale                I have requested Owen to do a video conference based presentation
07:05 kmkale                Yeah and druthb has promised one
07:04 SpaceLibrarian_home   you can expect 2 more - one from me and one from eythian in the next few weeks
07:04 kmkale                I have asked VPM to keep another auditorium available though
07:04 kmkale                no shelly. not enough papers yet to start thinking multiple streams
07:03 kmkale                Whetever we get is great
07:03 kmkale                BobB: thank you.
07:03 SpaceLibrarian_home   have you decided how many streams yet?
07:03 kmkale                Aahh and video recording of sessions too must have
07:02 SpaceLibrarian_home   via*
07:02 SpaceLibrarian_home   I think attendance for some may be impossible unless vis vidlink.
07:02 BobB                  That does not make a huge dent into your problem.  But with travel costs for two we can't go overboard.
07:02 kmkale                :)
07:02 kmkale                alomg with continuous pestering to get them to attend
07:01 SpaceLibrarian_home   I like your thinking....
07:01 kmkale                Some very interesting people may not attend this years conference in person. I am planning to get them to do a video conference presentation at-least ;)
07:01 BobB                  OK.  Our contribution will be 20,000 rupees initially.
07:00 kmkale                Yes we have INR 100000 so far ( one local donor a co-op store)  we need INR 500000
07:00 SpaceLibrarian_home   video conferencing, eh? interesting
07:00 kmkale                Some must haves others not so much
06:59 kmkale                BobB: Since the venue is free most of the budget is for things like Conference Kits, projectors, Air Conditioning, Video Conferencing, Tea / Cofee , Lunch, Conference Dinner etc..
06:58 BobB                  And there is a big gap from what you need and what you so  far have?
06:58 kmkale                BobB: yep
06:57 kmkale                He is conducting the workshop so should have some links
06:57 SpaceLibrarian_home   and 2
06:57 SpaceLibrarian_home   And kmkale, I can help with 3
06:57 kmkale                Humm. Interesting. Will ask Savitra
06:57 BobB                  kmkale, do you have a complete budget yet?
06:56 kmkale                Thought you were asking about VPM
06:56 SpaceLibrarian_home   yes! sorry, I wasn't clear
06:56 kmkale                I misunderstood
06:56 kmkale                SpaceLibrarian_home: aahh you mean the Mumbai Univ workshop?
06:56 SpaceLibrarian_home   the one in June?
06:56 kmkale                and of course manpower to help run the show
06:55 kmkale                SpaceLibrarian_home: they are pitching in with stuff like free venue, internet etc but no cash
06:55 SpaceLibrarian_home   yeah!
06:54 BobB                  LOL.  I have my own opinion on that.  (I agree, of course!)
06:54 SpaceLibrarian_home   kmkale: that uni that's running the workshop, could they sponsor?
06:54 SpaceLibrarian_home   rangi: :)
06:54 kmkale                but there was mention of sponsorship and we are far behind on money so far
06:54 SpaceLibrarian_home   yes, but interesting risky...
06:54 SpaceLibrarian_home   I have, and she sure is lovely.
06:54 rangi                 cool, just doing the the intros
06:53 BobB                  It will be an interesting ticket I think.  A bit risky - fingers crossed!
06:53 rangi                 you have been talking with his lovely wife lately
06:53 SpaceLibrarian_home   rangi: I know.
06:53 rangi                 SpaceLibrarian_home: BobB is from calyx
06:53 SpaceLibrarian_home   likewise, BobB :)
06:53 kmkale                Yep SpaceLibrarian_home
06:53 BobB                  Hi SpaceLibrarian_home, nice to meet you.  :)
06:52 SpaceLibrarian_home   I think I mentioned that last meeting...
06:52 SpaceLibrarian_home   Jo?
06:52 kmkale                Also please suggest someone for Keynote
06:52 kmkale                :) I hope you and or Irma will help with 2 & 3 also
06:52 SpaceLibrarian_home   hey BobB, thanks for the ticket. :)
06:52 rangi                 heya kmkale
06:52 BobB                  :)
06:51 BobB                  I can help with 4
06:51 SpaceLibrarian_home   hey kmkale
06:51 kmkale                hi SpaceLibrarian_home and rangi
06:51 kmkale                We need 1) Keynote 2) More papers 3) People to review the abstracts submitted so far 4) Money
06:50 BobB                  How's the planning for the conference going?  I have not been able to attend a meeting yet - sorry.
06:50 kmkale                sure
06:50 BobB                  Will you email them?  bob@calyx.net.au
06:49 kmkale                PayPal and Reserve Bank of India have had several run ins
06:49 BobB                  Cool.  Bank details will be good, and we'll proceed that way.
06:49 rangi                 bon jour biblibre
06:49 BobB                  I understand about PayPal.  Not everyone trusts it.
06:49 kmkale                OK. Let me get the bank details to you from their accounts dept asap..
06:48 kmkale                I asked them about paypal. Two problems there 1)  They need to get it approved in a full board meeting which is far off and 2) Since its a trust there are some FCNR problems from RBI while using Paypal
06:47 BobB                  I can make the payment from our bank to your bank if I have the account details I think.
06:47 BobB                  OK
06:46 kmkale                Not for Kohacon but we regularly recieve donations etc from outside via the same bank payment gateway.
06:46 BobB                  That would be great.  If I can use PayPal, even better.
06:46 kmkale                Can I ask VPM's accountant to give you their Bank details so that you can do a wire transfer?
06:45 rangi                 forkers gonna fork and lurkers gonna lurk, no off can be used
06:45 BobB                  Has anyone from outside India had success yet?
06:45 kmkale                I tried the other Visa card n it worked too..
06:45 kmkale                So is one of mine through which I paid using same form.
06:44 BobB                  Its a Mastercard
06:44 kmkale                OMG!! Is it a master / visa / amex ?
06:43 BobB                  I guess that means my card is in a batch that your bank doesn't like?  I don't know what else it would mean.
06:43 BobB                  Your bank responded: Card Bin Stop Listed
06:43 kmkale                And?
06:42 BobB                  It failed again.  But this time I got an error message at least.
06:42 BobB                  I'm very well, thank you.
06:42 kmkale                How are you Bob?
06:42 BobB                  I just tried to make a payment for KohaCon sponsorship again.
06:41 BobB                  Hi Koustubha
06:41 kmkale                hi BobB
06:37 BobB                  Is kmkale still about?
06:37 BobB                  hi all
06:18 rangi                 not sure about that :)
06:17 cait                  I think you will survive that
06:17 cait                  ah
06:17 rangi                 (type of beer)
06:17 cait                  kilkenny?
06:17 cait                  hi rangi
06:17 rangi                 aww man i missed kilkenny
06:05 cait                  trying to solve that but I have no idea :(
06:05 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6343 critical, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Label Creator not working , Current Branch: NULL
06:05 cait                  bug 6343
06:05 cait                  I don't see it
06:05 cait                  hmpf
05:42 bg                    :)
05:42 cait                  hi bg
05:38 kmkale                hi bg n oak :)
05:31 bg                    hiya #koha
05:17 cait                  quiet morning on #koha
05:06 * Oak                 notes that down
05:06 Oak                   ok cool
05:06 cait                  :)
05:06 Oak                   it just says purple
05:06 cait                  yes
05:06 Oak                   Ms. ?
05:06 Oak                   wait
05:06 Oak                   uh oh
05:05 cait                  mr?
05:05 Oak                   oh hello to you too Mr. cait
05:04 cait                  hi Oak and kmkale :)
05:04 Oak                   \o
05:03 kmkale                namaste cait
04:56 cait                  morning #koha
04:32 Space_Librarian       namaste kmkale
04:23 ibeardslee            and it is ok if you don't make it to the office .. I'll 'look after' them for you.
04:23 Space_Librarian       and kilkenny in the fridge
04:22 ibeardslee            rangi: there seems to be plenty of Guiness at BOC .. if you make it in time ;)
04:02 Space_Librarian       sounds like it went very well.
03:58 ibeardslee            yay
03:47 rangi                 yeah quite productive
03:44 Space_Librarian       good few days?
03:43 Space_Librarian       aye.
03:43 * rangi               is at dunedin airport now
03:42 rangi                 heh go away for a couple of days and kapow
03:19 eythian               it usually does, I wonder if it got some how messed with, or git wasn't looking at it right or something.
03:18 mtj                   i wonder if that method works in general...
03:17 mtj                   i thought it would have werked
03:17 mtj                   still... a quirky git-mystery why the patch file didnt apply, when reset to its parent commit
03:15 eythian               that is true
03:14 mtj                   tho... everyday at catalyst is a koha-minicon :)
03:13 mtj                   yeah, we really should
03:09 eythian               sounds good to me. We should have a mini-kohacon one of these days :)
03:08 mtj                   i owe you a delicious beer for that one :)
03:08 eythian               any time ;)
03:07 mtj                   thanks for the brain-slap!
03:07 eythian               yeah, that's much more like it :)
03:07 mtj                   ... did the trick fine
03:07 mtj                   $ git cherry-pick 417c9084b4c5a3637ffc2a29d4f3db929285fead
03:06 mtj                   i actually clicked to the cherry-pick last nite, then forgot
03:06 eythian               that was easy :)
03:06 mtj                   ummm, done ;)
03:05 eythian               yeah
03:05 mtj                   ah, a cherry-pick?
03:05 eythian               if the patch is in git, why don't you just pull it in from there rather than going through a file?
03:05 mtj                   i could just cut/paste Auth.pm , to get the changes of course
03:05 eythian               wait
03:05 eythian               hrm
03:03 mtj                   hmm, same error as i pasted previously
03:01 mtj                   ta, 1 tic
03:01 mtj                   http://paste.koha-community.org/52
03:01 eythian               git am --abort; git checkout -f your-branch ; git am -3 ./aa
03:00 mtj                   rm -rf  ./.git/rebase-apply    ?
03:00 eythian               weird
03:00 mtj                   previous rebase directory /home/mason/g/master/.git/rebase-apply still exists but mbox given.
03:00 mtj                   cat: /home/mason/g/master/.git/rebase-apply/next: No such file or directory
02:59 mtj                   mason@xen1:~/g/master$ git am -3  ./aa
02:58 eythian               Try git am -3 ./aa
02:58 eythian               strange.
02:58 mtj                   i have tried, and got that error :/
02:57 mtj                   $ git apply ./aa
02:57 eythian               Give it a try, it can't hurt.
02:57 mtj                   $ git reset --hard  10ea4544ea0813d359f9f2df68ba9ad531cc86e7
02:57 eythian               Yeah, that makes some sort of sense.
02:57 eythian               oh, right. Hmm.
02:57 mtj                   i thought the patch would apply ok, if i set my repo to the *parent* commit?
02:56 eythian               running git reset --hard will make sure you know exactly where you are.
02:56 mtj                   file 'aa' = http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=patch;h=417c9084b4c5a3637ffc2a29d4f3db929285fead
02:56 mtj                   error: C4/Auth.pm: patch does not apply
02:56 mtj                   error: patch failed: C4/Auth.pm:736
02:55 mtj                   mason@xen1:~/g/master$ git apply ./aa
02:55 mtj                   Q is, should i 'git reset --hard $PARENT' before running git-apply ?
02:55 wizzyrea              the error is <reply>
02:55 wahanui               wizzyrea: I forgot error
02:55 wizzyrea              forget the error
02:54 mtj                   http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=417c9084b4c5a3637ffc2a29d4f3db929285fead
02:54 wahanui               the error is on edit page after patch was applied
02:54 eythian               tell me what the error is
02:54 mtj                   heres the patch in git
02:54 mtj                   ok, so i wanna apply it, but i get an error...
02:53 mtj                   applying the patch for it
02:53 eythian               I can try, I make mo promises I'll give you a truthful answer.
02:53 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5995 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , Glitch with checkauth
02:53 mtj                   spec. about bug 5995, and applying it
02:52 mtj                   anyone got a tic *for* a git-apply Q?
02:52 mtj                   heh, friday-talk :/
02:52 mtj                   anyone got a tic got a git-apply Q?
02:29 eythian               talked to a lot of people who were pretty keen
02:29 eythian               it wasn't bad actually.
02:28 Space_Librarian       how was the expo?
02:25 eythian               hi y'all