Time Nick Message 00:03 Waylon hiya all. okay, modded my system to track login numbers per account. Seems the login routine is being run twice per single login. rel_3_0 .... anyone got a old bug report for this bug? 00:40 Waylon can't seem to set param's until after the second login runthrough. 01:12 Waylon get_template_and_user is getting called twice... 01:18 Waylon aah.. looks like my fault. 01:24 eythian Waylon: we're here to help you discover things like that ;) 02:28 jenkins_koha Starting build 26 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:35 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit32: Updating Version Number to 3.02.09.000 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e011a9fb0a0740d4732518cb1ab5b7a2d979e28> / Release Notes for 3.02.09.000 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=78d6256d150ff711f9e97affb429433f41771dd7> / Bug 5995 : MT2892: Fix security issue in CAS intranet login <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1f3b156ba2a0aa36b0e1 02:39 rangi chris_n++ 02:40 chris_n :) 02:41 chris_n so much for the fastest release cycle in the history of Koha 02:41 rangi heh 02:42 chris_n that pretty much guarantees a 3.2.10 02:43 rangi yup 02:43 rangi well the LTS person will be happy at least 02:52 druthb chris_n++ 02:57 rangi hi ronald and pianohacker 02:57 pianohacker hi chris 02:57 pianohacker how's it going? 02:57 chris_n g'night #koha 02:57 rangi pretty good for a monday :) 03:00 * druthb waves to pianohacker. 03:00 pianohacker hola druthb 03:01 pianohacker dammit, time_zones-- 03:01 pianohacker if for no other reason than that they're confusing 03:01 pianohacker rangi: What are you up to at catalyst these days, anyway? 03:01 rangi pretty much full time on koha now 03:02 rangi barring some kinda emergency 03:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.2.x build #26: SUCCESS in 37 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/26/ 03:05 jenkins_koha * Matthias Meusburger: Bug 5995 : MT2892: Fix security issue in CAS intranet login 03:05 jenkins_koha * Chris Nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.02.09.000 03:05 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5995 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , Glitch with checkauth 03:05 jenkins_koha * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.09.000 03:17 druthb zomg. I get to go to bed before midnight. It's a *miracle!* Good night, #koha. 04:53 cait morning #koha 04:53 rangi morning number 3 04:53 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ 04:53 Space_Librarian morning cait 04:53 cait hi Space_Librarian 04:53 cait number 3? 04:54 cait ouch 04:54 rangi During this 2059-day reporting period, a total of 2101 different nicks were represented on #koha. 04:54 * cait talks too much 04:54 rangi ull never catch me!! 04:55 Space_Librarian do we want to? :) 04:56 cait seems I am your night shift rangi 04:57 rangi heh yes 05:11 cait rangi: seen the comment on bug 6292? does it make sense? 05:11 wahanui I haven't seen 'the', cait 05:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6292 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Overdue notices have a bug when multiple overdues exist 05:56 cait @wunder Konstanz 05:56 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.7�C (7:55 AM CEST on May 16, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Steady). 06:43 clrh hi 06:44 magnuse bonjour 06:46 Ropuch Morning #koha 06:59 francharb hello 07:00 magnuse bonjour 07:02 magnuse kia ora paul_p 07:03 paul_p hi magnuse 07:07 rangi evening 07:08 marcelr rangi: hi! what should still be done for 5860? 32x or 34x patch? 07:10 rangi ill go look 07:11 rangi i think you had some suggestions to improve it? 07:11 marcelr yes for master, i did 07:11 rangi the patch for 3.2.x and 3.4.x should be essentially the same 07:11 rangi its just an updatedatbase 07:11 marcelr katrin did not send it? 07:11 marcelr i will send it then 07:12 rangi last message is her 07:12 rangi I will try to work on it at the weekend, but will be happy if someone else 07:12 rangi steps in. I tried "show indexes from items" and see the field non_unique - so I 07:12 rangi think we can combine both ideas to improve this. 07:13 AmitG heya chris 07:13 rangi hi AmitG 07:28 kf paul_p: thx for the mail 07:28 Ropuch Hello kf :) 07:29 marcelr kf: hi 07:29 paul_p hi kf & Ropuch & rangi & marcelr & all 07:29 kf and hi to all :) 07:29 marcelr kf: i will send patch for 5860 32x and 34x in short time 07:30 kf marcelr: thx a lo 07:30 kf t 07:30 kf marcelr: my weekend didn't go as expected 07:30 marcelr that happens :-) 07:33 paul_p yesterday in marseille, a *lot* of mistral (the wind) 07:33 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:33 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 16.0�C (9:00 AM CEST on May 16, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 07:34 paul_p no more wind today 07:34 magnuse paul_p: what's that like? hot?cold? people going crazy? 07:34 paul_p it's a cold wind. Very strong and very famous in France 07:34 kf if someone talks about wind here it means headache most of the time 07:35 rangi if someone talks about wind here, its just a normal day 07:35 eythian nobody talks about wind here :) 07:35 eythian heh 07:36 rangi http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/wellington-region/3/1 07:38 magnuse http://www.windfinder.com/windstats/windstatistic_wellington.htm 07:38 magnuse http://www.windfinder.com/windstats/windstatistic_bodo_lufthavn.htm 07:39 magnuse bod� is quite famous for it's wind, but it looks like wellington is worse... ;-) 07:39 rangi :) 07:41 magnuse "Wellingtonians learn to live with the wind, some claiming they like it. One positive effect is that air pollution is rarely a problem." Hehe 07:42 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc5hr8NzGXs 07:42 rangi thats the bay i live above 07:43 rangi video is probably from my hill 07:43 magnuse cool 07:44 rangi my fence usually blows down once a year :) 07:44 magnuse hm, how about making it just a little stronger? ;-) 07:45 eythian because that just makes it windier 07:45 rangi heh 07:45 magnuse the wind would make an extra effort to knock it down? 07:45 rangi well it didnt blow down last year when i add 4 more posts to it 07:46 eythian magnuse: yep 07:46 magnuse see? 07:46 rangi but if we get another 140kmph wind 07:46 rangi it will probably go over 07:47 rangi the shape of the valley makes it a wind tunnel 07:47 rangi luckily northerlies are the prevailing wind 07:47 rangi so we usually escape the worst, its when its a southerly we get hammered 07:48 eythian except the 15 minutes I'm biking home, then it's always southerly 07:48 magnuse good for you 07:48 magnuse hehe 07:48 rangi hehe 07:48 rangi i was very happy that during kohacon we escaped with no real wind 07:49 magnuse yeah, i don't think of wellington as a windy place now... 07:50 eythian we got it turned down a bit for when you were here. 07:50 magnuse thanks :-) 08:00 kf marcelr: still around? 08:04 marcelr yes 08:05 kf ah 08:06 kf I see your patch on the list 08:06 marcelr complete now? 08:06 kf I hope :) 08:06 kf did you alter the old entries too? 08:07 marcelr for master 2 fixes complement each other 08:07 kf I would love to see the red error message from the web installer gone - irritating for people 08:07 kf yes, I think rangi altered the old entry and you added one at the end 08:07 kf that should work hopefully catching them all 08:07 marcelr yes.. 08:08 kf I wondered if we should alter the old for the other versions too 08:08 kf because people with the 'wrong index name' will get a red error message in web installer (as it happens now) 08:08 kf and it will probably be not apparent that we are fixing it later in the script 08:08 marcelr ok, will take second look at 32/34 08:09 marcelr hope that both chris's will still understand what we are doing... 08:11 kf hope that too 08:11 kf rangi: around? 08:12 kf I think rangi had told me that it can take a long time to create the index so it should be avoided to do it more than once - so perhaps we should make sure he is ok with doing it like that? 08:13 rangi if you have a lot of items it may take quite a while to make the unique index 08:14 rangi any index for that matter 08:14 marcelr but is not unique 08:15 rangi yep, any index will stay take a little while when you have millions of items 08:15 rangi and some koha do, so doing it twice if we dont need to, isnt probably the bet 08:15 rangi best 08:15 rangi but i could live with it 08:15 rangi their upgrade will take a while anyway ;) 08:15 marcelr we could add a test instead of just recreating it (at end of update) 08:16 kf somethin like SHOW INDEXES FROM items WHERE key_name='itemsstocknumberidx' and non_unique = 0 perhaps? 08:16 marcelr yeah 08:16 rangi that'd work 08:17 marcelr shall i send just a new patch for both changes now? 08:18 kf I think combine the 3.2 and 3.4 into one patch each would be good 08:18 kf and if we are going to do the check a new patch for master will also be needed 08:18 marcelr it would be three patches for master, 32x and 34x combining changes 08:18 kf bah, that got really messy :( 08:18 kf because I missed the different index names :( 08:19 marcelr ok, we skip the followup fixes etc etc for three new follow follow followup fixes... 08:19 kf marcelr++ 08:19 marcelr :-) 08:20 rangi it might be worth obsoleting my patch 08:20 rangi and your follow up 08:20 marcelr right 08:20 rangi and just do one patch, that does it all 08:21 rangi down to 95! 08:21 marcelr some work for our qa! 08:22 rangi yup :) 08:34 glernil i found a bug in the label creator module under tools 08:35 glernil when i tried to create a new batch the selected library is gone 08:35 kf glernil: file a bug for it and describe the steps :) 08:36 kf it could be a template toolkit problem which should not be too hard to fix then 08:37 glernil oops... sorry it has been filed already 08:37 glernil Bug 6343 08:38 kf wahanui? 08:38 wahanui kf? 08:38 kf bug 6343 08:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6343 critical, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Label Creator not working , Current Branch: NULL 08:38 kf ah, blamed the wrong bot 08:38 glernil yup.. its the same bug 09:10 vfernandes hi there 09:11 kf hi vfernandes 09:13 vfernandes i have a question... by some reason one librarian changed the author field to 700$a instead of 200$f (in koha => marc connection) 09:14 vfernandes and when I've done the import of the records the authors the biblio.author was equal to 700$a 09:14 kf i think there is a script to fix that 09:14 vfernandes now i need to change the biblio.author to 200$f and update the records 09:14 vfernandes which is the script? 09:14 kf the problem is you can only have one field mapped to the table, not 2. the librarian probably tried to map another field. 09:15 kf using koha-to-marc-mapping 09:15 vfernandes the librarian changed that 09:15 vfernandes only one field is mapped but an incorrect one 09:16 kf yes, if you try to map a second it will delete the first mapping 09:17 vfernandes ok... i've already changed it to 200$f in the mapping from MARC to Koha 09:17 vfernandes but now i need to run the script 09:17 vfernandes i think that is batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl 09:17 vfernandes correct? 09:17 kf ah 09:17 kf yes, I was searching for it 09:17 kf I have never used it 09:18 kf you should test it on a test database first 09:18 vfernandes me neither 09:18 vfernandes i'll try on a test database 09:19 vfernandes another questions... it's possible to search by one MARC field on the OPAC? 09:21 vfernandes for example 225$a 09:23 rangi magnuse++ #resolving bugs 09:24 magnuse awh shucks - i was just hoping to see bug 5917 resolved for 3.4.1 09:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit 09:24 vfernandes kf i've tried the script and it worked 09:24 vfernandes :) 09:24 magnuse it depends on two bugs that do not have a patch, and one that is signed off. all the others are pushed 09:25 rangi oh cool, ill look into the 2 sometime this week 09:25 magnuse its bug 6258 and bug 6306 09:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6258 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Guided reports wizard 'Build new' brings up empty page 09:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6306 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , It is not possible edit news 09:26 magnuse having those solved would be cool! 09:26 vfernandes tanks kf for the help 09:27 kf magnuse: probably one more - the problem in label creator 09:27 kf vfernandes: you are welcome. happy it worked 09:27 kf magnuse++ for bug wrangling 09:28 magnuse kf: link that to 5917? 09:28 magnuse thanks 09:28 kf I sounds like TT - not proven yet 09:29 magnuse i dare you to prove it, then! ;-) 09:29 kf hehe 09:29 kf would love to work on that in fact 09:30 kf but I have some other things to deal with first 09:31 magnuse yeah, so do i - closing bugs just seemed like the easiest thing to do at the moment... 09:32 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1807 09:32 huginn` 04Bug 1807: blocker, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , ':' character blocks search ; search () give odd results 09:32 rangi this is the only open blocker, but i think its actually been fixed 09:32 rangi by jcamins 09:33 rangi if you had time to test that that would be greate 09:33 rangi -e 09:33 magnuse wow, it's only from january 2008... 09:34 rangi yeah, i think it was fixed in other bugs 09:34 rangi and never closed 09:47 kf closing_old_bugs++ 09:51 vfernandes kf it's possible to search in OPAC for one subfield? 225$a in UNIMARC for example 09:52 kf you coudl check the record.abs file - see if the field is already indexed and how the index is named 09:52 marcelr kf: rangi: i finished 5860; please take a look; thanks 09:52 kf marcelr++ 09:55 kf vfernandes: you need a zebra index on that field to search for it, not all fields are indexed and most indexes contain more fields and subfields. 09:56 * kf kf_lunch 09:56 vfernandes record.abs: meln 225$a Title-series,Title-series:p 09:57 vfernandes it means that are indexed? 09:57 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5860] Adding duplicate stocknumber will fail silently <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5860> 10:16 magnuse sorry rangi: looks like () do not work properly... 10:22 rangi now we have to find the bugs for searching 10:22 rangi and update those too 10:23 magnuse ouch 10:23 magnuse i need some lunch 10:25 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5693 10:25 huginn` 04Bug 5693: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, reed, RESOLVED FIXED, if parentheses used in ccode then searches against ccode fail 10:26 rangi it might have just been fixed for ccode 10:26 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5651 10:26 huginn` 04Bug 5651: major, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, can't use ? character in searches 10:27 druthb o/ 10:31 rangi hi druthb 10:31 druthb hi, rangi! :) 10:32 kf hi druthb 10:32 druthb :) hi. 10:34 vfernandes kf record.abs: meln 225$a Title-series,Title-series:p 10:34 vfernandes what means? 10:34 kf it's indexed 10:34 kf that's good 10:34 vfernandes how i search it? 10:34 kf you can search for it 10:34 kf in keyword index 10:35 kf and probably series 10:35 kf I have no unimarc installation to look at 10:35 kf you could try Title-series:<searchterms> in simple search too 10:37 vfernandes it almost works correctly... doesn't accept the character ) 10:37 kf ah yes 10:37 kf () can not be used for search I think 10:39 vfernandes so if i need to parser 225$a to not present ( and ) in order to be searchable 10:40 rangi \ 10:41 kf rangi: escaping? 10:41 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6268] Bad Total in basket.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6268> 10:41 kf vfernandes: does it no work if you just search without them? 11:04 vfernandes yes it works :) 11:04 vfernandes thank you for the help 11:24 vfernandes kf there is a quick way to escape ( and ) from OPAC and Staff Client searches? 11:47 kf vfernandes: sorry, I don't know 11:47 kf I thought it would just avoid them 11:50 magnus_lunch @wunder boo 11:50 huginn` magnus_lunch: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0�C (1:20 PM CEST on May 16, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 11:51 magnus_lunch puh 11:54 conan good morning all 11:57 kf puh? 11:57 kf hi conan 11:57 magnus_lunch hola conan 11:58 magnus_lunch kf: it's... warm... almost hot... 12:04 druthb @wunder 20852 12:04 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 15.8�C (8:07 AM EDT on May 16, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady). 12:04 druthb hm 12:04 druthb @wunder niland, CA 12:04 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Imperial, California is 13.0�C (4:53 AM PDT on May 16, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Falling). 12:05 druthb dang. Warmer here, than in southern California. 12:06 magnus_lunch o/ 12:07 druthb hi, magnus. :) 12:07 collum 94% humidity. It looks like you can cut the air with a knife. 12:07 kf @wunder Konstanz 12:07 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 14.0�C (2:00 PM CEST on May 16, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1027 hPa (Falling). 12:07 collum @wunder 41017 12:07 huginn` collum: The current temperature in Erlanger, Kentucky is 7.6�C (8:10 AM EDT on May 16, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady). 12:07 kf magnus: here it got much colder 12:07 magnuse hi druthb 12:07 magnuse kf: heh ;-) 12:09 kf ok, it's colder where you are but we had muchwarmer temperatures the last few weeks 12:16 oleonard Yay, Koha in Guyana! Boo, mention of koha.org. 12:18 kf it's in the opac too :( 12:18 kf someone shoudl tell them nicely 12:23 * kf hides behind her todo list 12:44 oleonard Heh, they're even hotlinking the koha logo directly from koha.org 12:46 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4513] Resetting framework to Default seems impossible <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4513> 12:49 magnuse oleonard++ # for being polite ;-) 12:59 kf oleonard++ 13:30 oleonard Speaking of which, http://www.worldtimebuddy.com 14:02 NurAhammad hi 14:02 NurAhammad everybody 14:02 wahanui everybody is, like, so enthusiastic today :) 14:02 NurAhammad how are you? 14:03 NurAhammad I found the following warning 14:04 NurAhammad when i run ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w 14:04 NurAhammad zebraidx(4374) [warn] Index 'Record-control-number' not found in attset(s) 14:04 NurAhammad what is the wrong in my system 14:04 Ropuch Who is allowed to upload .po to pootle? I've translated polish opac for 3.4 and tried to upload it with "merge the file with currrent.." bu with no success 14:06 NurAhammad I am uploading migrated data from CDS/ISIS 14:06 NurAhammad my searching is working. 14:11 kf Ropuch: drop a mail on the koha-translate list for frederic 14:11 kf NurAhammad: you can ignore it 14:12 kf NurAhammad: after updating to the latest stable release (3.2.9) it should be gone. you should do that anyway, because it's a security release. 14:12 NurAhammad is this a problem? 14:14 kf there was a security bug that was fixed, so we strongly recommend updating. If it's only a test system you can ignore the Record-control-number error. It's harmless but also fixed in later releases. 14:15 NurAhammad thanks a lot 14:15 NurAhammad for your answer. 14:16 NurAhammad I am updating my system. 14:16 druthb kf++ 14:38 oleonard Hi sekjal 14:38 sekjal morning, oleonard! 15:04 kf sekjal++ :) 15:08 library_systems_guy hey everybody :) 15:09 kf hi library_systems_guy 15:09 sekjal hi, library_systems_guy 15:09 library_systems_guy does anybody have their dev install pulled up? 15:09 library_systems_guy i am missing the build new reports section 15:09 library_systems_guy and i was wondering if it was just me 15:12 kf no 15:12 kf it's a bug 15:12 library_systems_guy oh yay i found a bug :) 15:12 kf I tried to solve it but have no idea what's going wrong there 15:12 kf it's in bugzilla 15:12 library_systems_guy oh man i should have checked there first 15:12 library_systems_guy sorry kf 15:14 kf no 15:14 kf it's ok :) 15:14 kf only saying you don't have to file it 15:14 wizzyrea oh wow yea that's odd 15:14 wizzyrea something to do with TT maybe? 15:14 kf and I am annoyed because I couldn't find the problem :P 15:14 library_systems_guy that is what i was thinking 15:15 kf bug 6258 15:15 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6258 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Guided reports wizard 'Build new' brings up empty page 15:15 wizzyrea it looks like there's some loop that's preventing the display of it 15:38 wizzyrea on the saved reports, what is the "type" 15:39 kf I think tabular 15:39 kf the pull down where you only have one option? 15:39 wizzyrea hmm 15:40 kf only guessing 15:40 wizzyrea i'm asking because almost all of our reports that are saved are made from sql 15:40 wizzyrea but some have type "1" and some have no type 15:41 wizzyrea it's probably irrelevant, I was just curious :P 15:41 kf no idea :) 15:42 oleonard Probably related to that step where you have to choose report type "Tabular" 15:42 oleonard I wonder if the "no type" ones are created from SQL? 15:42 wizzyrea but these weren't reports that were created that way 15:42 wizzyrea afaik 15:42 wizzyrea i could be wrong about that. I will test it! 15:43 oleonard Summary and Matrix were never implemented because Liblime used up all our money before they got to them. :P 15:48 slef @later tell rangi why does http://onl.org.nz/open-discussion#comment-1 only appear when I am logged in. Not very open discussion? 15:48 huginn` slef: The operation succeeded. 15:49 wizzyrea oic 15:52 wizzyrea kf, have a sec? 15:52 wizzyrea I think I cracked the reports thign 15:52 wizzyrea thing* 16:00 kf wizzyrea++ 16:01 wizzyrea ok well here's what I came up with re; the guided reports being broken. 16:01 wizzyrea big caveat 16:01 wizzyrea I have no idea why this worked, so if someone can explain it to me that'd be great 16:02 druthb wizzyrea++ 16:02 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "what I commented to make build reports work" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/45 16:02 wizzyrea that's way at the bottom 16:03 wizzyrea now, I have no idea why doing that fixes it 16:03 wizzyrea but it seems to? 16:03 wizzyrea well I have a very vague idea 16:03 wizzyrea otherwise I wouldn't have found it :P 16:06 wizzyrea i've tested and it looks like you can now get through creating a guided report 16:18 kf bye all see you later :) 16:29 wizzyrea nm 16:44 rhcl drawing a blank...what's the indexing engine that is sometimes discussed as a replacement for zebra in Koha? 16:44 oleonard solr 16:44 rhcl that's it. TNX 17:02 rangi ]/ws 41 17:14 cait hi #koha 17:15 bg heya cait 17:15 cait hi bg :) 17:15 cait bg? 17:15 wahanui bg is totally, completely, freakin' awesome! 17:15 bg sweet :) 17:15 bg cait? 17:15 wahanui cait is, like, kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies 17:15 bg :) 17:15 cait I should have known that would happen 17:16 * cait can offer chocolate chip cookies tonight 17:20 gmcharlt for those who hack on SIP: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/SIPServer.git;a=shortlog 17:24 druthb druthb? 17:24 wahanui hmmm... druthb is our resident data mangle^h^h migration specialist, and also a hot lil number in a skirt. 17:25 cait druthb: if you make himforget, I will make him remember 17:25 * druthb would delete that, but can't think of anything better. 17:25 cait so just leave it ;) 17:25 * druthb thinks cait has been conspiring with Brooke. 17:26 druthb hm. 17:26 cait you will never know 17:26 druthb Brooke? 17:26 druthb oh-hoh. 17:26 druthb talljoy? 17:26 wahanui talljoy is magnificent! 17:26 druthb why, yes, she is. 17:50 cait Brooke? 17:50 wahanui it has been said that Brooke is in biiiiiig trouble. 17:51 cait Brooke_? 17:51 wahanui i guess Brooke_ is sweet, even though she tells us she's not. 17:56 druthb :P 17:56 * druthb dun know nuffin about those things.. 18:10 wizzyrea ha oy 18:11 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/nBQtJch0MD check out that "Checked Out" column 18:11 wizzyrea it was issued in the future! 18:11 wizzyrea (I think that's supposed to be "date due" 18:11 wizzyrea ) 18:12 cait I think it was boolean at some point 18:12 cait and not it's date due - if it has one it's checked out 18:12 wizzyrea totally not following that logic... what that means to me 18:13 wizzyrea is that "this is the date the item was checked out" 18:13 wizzyrea so you're probably right, yes, in one way that makes sense 18:13 cait hehe 18:13 cait sorry 18:14 wizzyrea the "if there is something here, that's the due date and it's checked out" 18:14 wizzyrea "if there's nothing, it's not out at all" 18:14 cait I was saying that I think the field changed over time (might be wrong there) so it was 1 for yes, it's checked out 18:14 cait and now it's the due date - as you said 18:14 cait and the column does not match 18:14 wizzyrea oh and maybe the header never got updated 18:14 cait I would think so - but someone else might know better :) 18:15 wizzyrea that's an easy one, I can fix that. 18:15 wizzyrea Date Due as a header ok? 18:15 cait think so 18:15 cait bah 18:15 cait Fälligkeitsdatum in german 18:15 wizzyrea something better? 18:15 cait that will make another long column 18:15 cait no 18:16 wizzyrea :( 18:16 cait date due seems perfect :) 18:16 wizzyrea k 18:16 cait not your fault that gemran words are too long :) 18:16 wizzyrea hehe 18:16 wizzyrea no i carry the weight of every language's idiosyncrasies on my shoulders <wails> <moans> 18:16 wizzyrea ;) 18:17 cait lol 18:19 wizzyrea hehe 18:19 * wizzyrea is in a mood 18:19 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/2WrZDeZC 18:22 cait not sure i get it :) 18:22 wizzyrea it's from the princess bride... sec 18:35 oleonard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIP6EwqMEoE 18:36 wizzyrea hehe yes 18:39 cait oh, I don't know that film 18:39 wizzyrea ooo 18:43 Ropuch Hello wizzyrea, cait 18:43 wizzyrea hi :) 18:43 cait hi Ropuch 18:43 cait busy translating? 18:43 cait I am down to 6038 words need attention 18:44 Ropuch Yup, I want to finish pref.po by tomorrow 18:44 cait cool :) 18:44 Ropuch And then the longest journey - staff one ;> 18:45 Ropuch Never managed to translate it all, neither in 3.0 nor in 3.2 18:45 cait why not opac? 18:45 Ropuch Lost my motivation since i was the only library in Poland using it, but since there is another ona Koha library... ;> 18:46 Ropuch I have opac already translated [; 18:46 cait ah 18:46 cait :) 18:46 cait you are working with poedit? 18:46 cait so there is a second library now? 18:46 Ropuch Lokalize 18:47 Ropuch Back then i was using gtranslator, but tried lokalize and it suits my taste better 18:47 cait :) 18:47 cait I got some help translating, try to do it all using pootle 18:47 cait but checking for errors with poedit 18:47 Ropuch ..and yes, there's another Koha library in Poland (I'm not counting big university library as they are using some 2.x fork) 18:48 cait makes sense to me 18:48 cait are you involved with the second? 18:48 oleonard some_2.x_fork-- 18:48 Ropuch yea ;> 18:48 cait soo...:) 18:48 Ropuch http://katalog.bg.szczecin.pl/ 18:49 oleonard Ah, the old splash screen. 18:49 Ropuch hehehe 18:49 Ropuch Bring back memories, doesn;t it? ;> 18:51 Ropuch cait: as for second library - i found about it reviewing the translation in pootle, I've spotted new translator email, find some of his post in koha-lists and tracked him and the library 18:51 Ropuch I think i should drop him an email [; 18:51 cait hehe 18:51 cait you should 18:51 cait :) 18:53 Ropuch And for translation: pootle is nice tool, especialy when working in team, but for one person poedit/gtranslator/lokalize/whatever is muuuuuch faster 18:54 Ropuch No need to take hands of the keyborad 18:54 cait yep 18:54 cait I hear you 18:54 Ropuch :) 18:54 cait but it's better since pootle has moved server 18:54 Brooke opa! 18:54 cait hi Brooke :) 18:55 cait Brooke? :P 18:55 cait oh wahanui 18:55 Ropuch And after little scripting I can view the .tt file from Lokalize, great help if i can see the wider context of trans;ated string 18:55 cait that sounds quite cool! 18:55 Ropuch Yup, 4 lines python script ;> 18:56 cait :) 18:58 rangi yep its much better now pootle doesnt live in my living room anymore 18:58 * rangi goes to get the kids breakfast 18:59 Ropuch Hi Chris [; 19:00 cait rangi: probably the living room is happier now too ;) 19:00 * Brooke waves to hdl 19:01 Ropuch So now Frederic is the to bother about pootle permissions? 19:01 Ropuch *the one* 19:03 hdl hi Brooke 19:03 Brooke :) 19:05 cait Ropuch: that's right 19:07 * druthb waves to Brooke. 19:08 Brooke >:) 19:10 cait druthb: Brooke? 19:10 wahanui hmmm... Brooke is in biiiiiig trouble. 19:10 cait ah 19:10 cait not it works 19:10 cait wahanui - no cookies for you today! 19:10 wahanui cait: i'm not following you... 19:10 Brooke what what what?! 19:11 druthb hm? 19:15 * druthb has the eerie feeling she is being conspired against. 19:16 cait hehe 19:16 * cait gives druthb a cookie 19:16 * druthb takes the cookie. 19:17 druthb Do I dare eat it, or should I feed it to a lab rat first? 19:17 oleonard druthb it's rude to call interns lab rats. They're people too. 19:19 SteveJ I think of interns as being more like guinea pigs or crash test dummies rather than lab rats. 19:21 druthb hm.... reminds me of this billboard, which I saw in Baltimore over the weekend: http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/3316/ratherjpegprv.jpg 19:21 cait druthb:not trusting me? 19:21 * cait sniffs 19:21 druthb I trust you, cait. But Brooke is possibly a bad influence. 19:22 cait so you think I am easy to influence? 19:22 druthb no, but she's been at it a while. 19:22 Brooke It's one of CAIT's Cookies 19:22 Brooke you're more paranoid than me, dear :P 19:22 * cait takes the cookie out of your hands and eats it 19:22 wizzyrea all right, I give up. Where are the headers for the items tables pulled from? 19:23 cait mm yummy 19:23 cait oh 19:23 cait I know 19:23 * cait hides 19:23 cait bmf 19:23 oleonard wizzyrea: MARC framework I think 19:23 cait bib... marc...framew.. 19:23 cait ;) 19:23 wizzyrea aha 19:24 Brooke http://www.catalogingfutures.com/ btw. 19:24 oleonard wizzyrea: You didn't think it was going to be easy did you? ;) 19:24 * wizzyrea pouts 19:25 oleonard Cataloging futures eh? 19:25 * oleonard buys 10 shares of catalogers projected to be crabby in mid-2011 19:25 sekjal anyone have an opinion on adding a second set of "Renew Selected" and "Renew All" to the OPAC account summary page? They're currently just at the bottom of the table, which could be quite a long way down if there are many current checkouts 19:25 Brooke what if I'm antisocial instead of crabby? or is that still crabby? 19:25 wizzyrea oh I see, it's the 952q 19:25 * druthb wonders what cait and Brooke are up to. 19:26 * wizzyrea facepalms 19:26 wizzyrea so it's framework dependent then 19:26 sekjal It's trivial to add the second set of buttons, but I'm wondering if it's suitably aesthetic for short lists of items... 19:26 * oleonard struggles with that question sekjal 19:26 SteveJ Have the second set display only if items > x? 19:27 * wizzyrea thinks to set the resolution to 800x600, see how many lines, then ^ 19:27 Brooke I'm picking Cait's larger brain. 19:27 sekjal SteveJ: I was thinking just that 19:27 sekjal my guess would be for x to be between 6 and 10 19:27 SteveJ It needs to be a consistent number such as 20, and have that variable be something set in the preferences globally 19:28 sekjal yes, it should be user-controllable... but then we get YASP 19:28 SteveJ user controllable or administrator controllable? 19:28 sekjal oh, right 19:28 sekjal I meant administrator controllable 19:29 sekjal but what about making it a User Preference? 19:29 sekjal egad 19:29 SteveJ eep 19:29 * sekjal complexity overload 19:29 oleonard Sounds like too minor an item for a preference. 19:29 wizzyrea I agree with oleonard 19:29 SteveJ oleonard : I think that depends on how widely it is implemented. There are likely a number of pages where this could be applied *shrug* 19:30 cait hm 19:30 sekjal if we made the one syspref apply to all lists with bulk actions on them.... 19:30 cait yes 19:30 cait that's the problem i see too - if we have that only on one page it seems kind of weird 19:30 sekjal then surely one library would want X for one instance, and Y for another 19:30 cait having it everywhere... disputable 19:31 cait i can see why someone might want that, but I see the bug report coming too ;) 19:31 wizzyrea and depending on the interface, the number of lines could be different 19:31 * cait things Brooke picking on her brain explains the weird concentration problems she had lately 19:31 wizzyrea depending on where the table is on the page, the resolution of the viewer 19:31 SteveJ Ex: I know everyone using our catalog is at 1280x1024 and can set it accordingly. An elementary school library might have all theirs set on 800x600 and want it tweaked slightly different. 19:33 * wizzyrea is in a public library system, and nothing is certain resolution wise, anywhere. 19:33 wizzyrea and it could vary from computer to computer within a single library 19:33 wizzyrea so at that point 19:34 wizzyrea lets just say, it makes my head hurt to think about it. 19:34 sekjal what about making buttons like that "float" in a div at the bottom? 19:34 wizzyrea @quote get 23 19:34 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) 19:34 wizzyrea @quote get 123 19:34 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 19:34 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 19:35 oleonard sekjal: Which track the page scroll? 19:35 SteveJ Floating buttons are today's equivalent of the <blink> tag, and anyone suggesting their use should be set upon by a flock of hungry pidgeons. 19:36 oleonard I've never seen an implementation that worked well 19:36 * druthb will project sekjal from the pigeons. Shotgun loaded and ready. 19:37 sekjal the browser compatibility issues would be a nightmare, for sure 19:39 sekjal how about paging the checkout list? then the buttons would always be at known distance down the page 19:39 wizzyrea performance? 19:39 sekjal and we wouldn't have to worry about overloading the system if a patron has too many checkouts at once 19:39 wizzyrea that would be a benefit 19:40 sekjal I think I could write a general-purpose paging subroutine, to use with any query... 19:40 sekjal it would take in the query and the start/end pages, and return a new query built to do that 19:40 cait sekjal: I am not a big fan of paging 19:41 cait I find it more onfusing than helful and you can't ctrl+f to find something 19:41 Brooke 0/ 19:41 wizzyrea i'm not a fan of paging when it loads everything but only shows you some of it 19:41 sekjal cait: mmm, good point 19:41 wizzyrea + that's very slow to load 19:42 sekjal I think I could do a server-side, MySQL based paging subroutine that preserves sorting... 19:43 wizzyrea (with an option to "see all" damn the slowness?) 19:43 sekjal (the current problem being that LIMIT clauses terminate the query before the entire result set is sorted) 19:43 sekjal "see all" would be easy to add 19:43 wizzyrea rather, slowness be damned 19:44 * Brooke is damned. 19:44 Brooke always knew that 19:44 Brooke didn't know it was my infernal slowness. 19:44 * Brooke shakes a fist at a cloud. 19:46 rangi back 19:47 cait hi rangi 19:47 * cait gives rangi a cookie 19:47 rangi sekjal: if u were to do it server side good time to add ajax 19:47 rangi and im pretty sure limit is applied after order by 19:48 sekjal rangi: reading the MySQL docs, only the first <LIMIT> records found are sorted 19:48 sekjal there's a bug report for this behavior with patron searching, as I recall 19:48 rangi must be group by then 19:49 rangi you can do it with a subselect 19:49 sekjal yes 19:49 cait rangi: did you eat the cookie? 19:49 sekjal so, the subroutine I'm envisioning would take a query, use it as the FROM table for another query that adds the limit 19:49 rangi dont do it with anything stored or mysql specific is the main thing 19:50 sekjal SELECT * FROM ( ? ) LIMIT ?, ? 19:50 sekjal then sth->execute($query, $offset, $limit) 19:50 rangi yep 19:50 Brooke cait, the users you share your cookies with are bugged. 19:51 cait ? 19:51 rangi it will kill performance if its the wrong query 19:51 rangi so will need to check that 19:51 cait I was testing... wanted to know if rangi is trusting me ... *glares at druthb* 19:52 rangi heh course I trust cait 19:52 druthb I say again: I trust you, cait. But you're associating with a dangerous element there... 19:52 cait druthb: ok, I will take you off the cookie list 19:52 cait :P 19:53 cait give themto rangi instead 19:53 Brooke hey hey 19:53 * druthb pouts and cries. 19:53 Brooke Western Law got rid of guilt by association YEARS ago :P 19:54 * Brooke hands druthb a cookie. 19:54 * druthb is careful with this one. 19:55 * cait sighs 19:55 cait if you eat THAT cookie, you have a problem 19:55 * Brooke comforts cait. 19:55 cait sorry Brooke... but youknow 19:55 * wizzyrea snatches the cookie, sniffs it, takes a nibble... deems it ok 19:55 * Brooke cheers at wizzyrea. 19:55 * wizzyrea gives it back to druthb 19:55 * druthb watches wizzyrea closely, cell phone ready to call 911. 19:56 wizzyrea :) 19:56 sekjal rangi: we'd definitely want to make sure the paging subroutine was internal-only, and only used by other subroutines that are well-behaved 19:56 cait I don't think Brooke would poison you 19:56 cait make you see weird colorful things... perhaps. but no poison. 19:56 druthb she might; she is greatly pissed at me over this whole moving-out-of-DC thing... 19:56 rangi u should also check out dbix::class 19:56 wizzyrea ooh, look at that... it's a shopping blue whale! 19:57 cait lol 19:57 druthb see? 19:57 Brooke I am not pissed that you're abandoning me. 19:57 cait what was that about the guilt? 19:57 Brooke It will allow me to revert to my hermity ways. 19:57 rangi it may implement this already, then we have a candidate for another module under Koha:: 19:58 rangi oleonard++ 20:12 rangi syrup course reserves 20:13 rangi anyone wanna google that and see if its free software? 20:13 rangi bbiab 20:14 sekjal rangi: it's a subproject of Project Conifer 20:14 sekjal http://projectconifer.ca/ 20:14 oleonard But not mentioned on that page 20:15 sekjal yeah... and can you get good syrup from conifers? 20:16 oleonard I was wondering that the other day, are there other kinds of syrup from trees? 20:16 oleonard I'll bet syrup from a conifer would be nasty 20:16 sekjal google indicates you can do something with green juniper twigs... 20:18 wizzyrea syrup from conifers = sap = amber 20:18 * oleonard throws in the towel 20:18 oleonard quit 20:23 gmcharlt have some syrup: http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS-Contrib/browser/servres/trunk/conifer/syrup 20:23 pianohacker wow, gmcharlt++ 20:23 pianohacker how on earth did you find that? 20:26 wizzyrea because he is awesome like that 20:26 wizzyrea the google fu is strong with this one 20:26 wizzyrea plus conifer... evergreen... syrup 20:27 pianohacker all these links 20:27 pianohacker pretty soon someone will bring up haarp 20:27 pianohacker then it'll all go to hell 20:27 ibeardslee or the dodgy curry from last night? 20:28 rhcl In Greek mythology, a harpy ("snatcher", from Latin: harpeia, originating in Greek: á¼…Ïπυια, harpÅ«ia) was one of the winged spirits best known for constantly stealing tree sweets from Phineas. 21:12 cait good morning Space_Librarian :) 21:16 Space_Librarian evening cait! :) 21:35 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6347] Bug in opac-reserve.pl stopping item level holds <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6347> 21:37 cait bye all 21:44 * druthb waves to Space_Librarian. 21:45 rangi 99, dont let it get over 100 again, low mark is 95 :) 21:46 * Space_Librarian waves to druthb 21:47 druthb :D 21:58 jenkins_koha Starting build 252 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 22:00 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug #6131 - change index "Author-name-personal" for "Personal-name" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7006eebd6eb234901e2397f289444b7024d0e16b> 22:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #252: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/252/ 22:41 jenkins_koha Alex Arnaud: Bug #6131 - change index "Author-name-personal" for "Personal-name" 22:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6131 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , (unimarc only) improper index name for personal-name