Time Nick Message 00:20 druthb o/ 00:40 gp5st hello. Is there a fast way to add books by barcode to batchs for labels to be printed? I know i can go to a batch, click add, click barcode, then add the books one by one. I was looking for a way to more or less scan, have it add, and come back to the search by barcode page 00:43 gp5st sorry: use case: i need to print a lot of spine labels 01:11 druthb hi, wizzyrea. :) 01:11 wizzyrea gp5st: that functionality is in 3.4 01:11 wizzyrea hi :) 01:11 wizzyrea one of my fav features actually 01:11 gp5st ah 01:11 gp5st i'm still on 3.0.x i think 01:11 wizzyrea dare I ask what version you are running? 01:11 wizzyrea about -> koha 01:12 gp5st i'll have to upgrade this computer nextweek 01:12 wizzyrea rather more -> about, sorry 01:12 wizzyrea lol 01:12 wizzyrea oh hey! bip worked right! 01:12 gp5st 3.01.00.128 01:12 wizzyrea ha! 01:12 wizzyrea oh yea, that's pre 3.2 01:12 wizzyrea you really ought to update :) 01:13 gp5st i'm still running ubuntu 9.04 on this thing. :-\ 01:13 gp5st i havn't had time to play with it for almost a year 01:13 wizzyrea never too late to get back into it ;) 01:13 gp5st next week I'm going to come in with a flash drive, back everything up 01:13 gp5st and just update everything 01:13 gp5st wizzyrea, yeah:) 01:13 gp5st i do like koha though 01:13 pianohacker hola 01:13 gp5st fwiw this version seems nice 01:14 druthb hi, pianohacker! 01:14 gp5st and well designed, so i am looking forward to the updates:) 01:14 pianohacker hey there, druthb 01:14 pianohacker How's it going? 01:15 druthb chugging along...adding new libraries to the Koha Revolution left and right. 01:15 bg druthb++ 01:15 bg :) 01:15 wizzyrea gp5st: aw that's a very nice thing to say 01:15 bg heya pianohacker 01:15 wahanui pianohacker is our favorite boy genius 01:15 pianohacker very complimentary bot 01:15 pianohacker hi bg 01:15 wizzyrea he's taught well ;) 01:16 pianohacker lol 01:16 druthb bg++ #best boss evar! for paying me good money to get to do what I love. 01:16 pianohacker okay, bg = brendan_ 01:16 druthb that would be the boss, yes. International Man of Mystery. 01:16 bg ah now it's just bg 01:16 wizzyrea wahanui, pianohacker is also the genius who gave us our awesome ajax pref panel 01:16 wahanui wizzyrea: bugger all, i dunno 01:16 bg wishes /me could have brendan back but oh well 01:17 wizzyrea member:pianohacker is also the genius who gave us our awesome ajax pref panel 01:17 wizzyrea humbug 01:17 wizzyrea pianohacker is also the genius who gave us our awesome ajax pref panel 01:17 wahanui okay, wizzyrea. 01:17 wizzyrea there we go 01:17 wizzyrea pianohacker? 01:17 wahanui pianohacker is our favorite boy genius or the genius who gave us our awesome ajax pref panel 01:17 druthb wizzyrea? 01:17 wahanui wizzyrea is probably a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet 01:17 druthb kicks wahanui. 01:17 pianohacker I like this bot 01:17 wizzyrea more a poet :P 01:17 druthb Probably, nothin'. 01:17 wizzyrea druthb? 01:18 wizzyrea !!! 01:18 wizzyrea how can that be 01:18 * druthb wiggles her eyebrows. 01:18 * wizzyrea plots 01:18 druthb you and Brooke... 01:18 druthb Brooke? 01:18 wahanui somebody said Brooke was so 'leet or so sweet 01:18 druthb kf? 01:18 wahanui kf is, like, cait or really, really sweet 01:18 druthb cait? 01:18 wahanui cait is kf or a programmer 01:19 druthb bg? 01:19 wahanui i heard bg was awesome! 01:19 pianohacker haha 01:19 druthb bg is also the BEST BOSS EVAR! 01:19 wahanui okay, druthb. 01:19 pianohacker at least he isn't recursive 01:19 druthb hehehehe 01:19 bg bg? 01:19 wahanui somebody said bg was awesome! or the BEST BOSS EVAR! 01:19 bg heh 01:20 wizzyrea yay it's fun with bots hour in #koha! 01:20 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks 01:20 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 28.4�C (8:23 PM CDT on May 10, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1001.9 hPa (Steady). 01:20 druthb what I can't figure out, is how I managed to get ahead of sekjal in karma.... 01:20 druthb @karma pianohacker 01:20 huginn druthb: Karma for "pianohacker" has been increased 32 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 32. 01:20 druthb oh, my... that's too low! 01:20 jcamins_away I thought there was a meeting now? 01:20 wizzyrea oh there is no way that is right :P 01:20 druthb pianohacker++ 01:20 wizzyrea it's in about 40 mins 01:21 jcamins_away Oh. 01:21 jcamins_away Right. 01:21 jcamins_away @karma druthb 01:21 huginn jcamins_away: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 95 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 95. 01:21 jcamins_away @karma sekjal 01:21 huginn jcamins_away: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 95 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 94. 01:21 gp5st well i should get going 01:21 jcamins_away sekjal++ # that must've been a mistake. 01:21 gp5st thanks and you all have a nice night 01:21 druthb dead heat, again. 01:21 pianohacker druthb-- 01:21 pianohacker :) 01:21 wizzyrea sure, good luck with your upgrade 01:21 wizzyrea oof 01:21 druthb ouchie! 01:21 jcamins_away druthb++ # just to make it fair 01:22 * druthb gives pianohacker an ebil eye. 01:22 jcamins_away @karma jcamins 01:22 huginn jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 79 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 78. 01:22 jcamins_away @karma jcamins_away 01:22 huginn jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. 01:22 jcamins_away @karma jcamins_a 01:22 huginn jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins_a" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 01:22 jcamins_away Heh. 01:22 druthb pickin' on old ladies...sheesh. The youth of today... 01:22 wizzyrea @karma wizzyrea 01:22 huginn wizzyrea: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 172 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 172. 01:22 wizzyrea whoa 01:22 pianohacker Hey, I only harass people I like 01:22 pianohacker O_o 01:22 druthb jcamins, gmcharlt can merge those for ya. 01:23 pianohacker @karma chris 01:23 huginn pianohacker: Karma for "chris" has been increased 0 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 0. 01:23 pianohacker ohhh right 01:23 jcamins_away @karma rangi 01:23 huginn jcamins_away: Karma for "rangi" has been increased 315 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 312. 01:23 * pianohacker bows 01:23 * jcamins_away creates a map 01:24 druthb got jwagner's goat real good when I changed nicks. she thought I'd have to start over, but gmcharlt fixed it. :) Got to hear lotsa grumblin. 01:25 * jcamins_away _tries_ to create a map. 01:25 jcamins_away Jeez, in one year I have completely forgotten how to use ArcGIS. 01:25 pianohacker Oh dear. The person across from me at the USGS deals with that massive beast of a program a lot 01:27 jcamins_away I might use GRASS or the other open source one -- or even just R -- but since I get a free copy, I might as well poke^H^H^H^Hstab it repeatedly until I get bored. 01:29 pianohacker What are you working on? 01:29 * jcamins_away installs Google Earth. 01:29 jcamins_away Ooh, there's a Mac version? 01:30 wizzyrea *nod* 01:30 wizzyrea speaking of mac versions 01:30 wizzyrea mac skype = big security hole apparently 01:30 jcamins_away pianohacker: I'm plotting my eventual mapping of booksellers in Saint Petersburg during the reign of Nicholas II. 01:31 pianohacker mac and video chat seem to dislike each other 01:31 wizzyrea ?! 01:31 pianohacker jcamins_away: Wow. You sir are a humanities student 01:31 pianohacker facetime security bug? 01:31 * wizzyrea has never had that experience 01:31 wizzyrea oo, I did not realize 01:31 wizzyrea i odn't use facetime 01:31 jcamins_away All hail our Googlean overlords. 01:31 pianohacker I think it's been fixed, but it was apparently a big deal 01:32 wizzyrea aha 01:32 * jcamins_away really should be doing something more useful, but he just finished his paper, and maps are pretty. 01:32 wizzyrea you sir, are the best sort of geek. 01:32 pianohacker maps++ 01:32 pianohacker Big and complicated problems associated with them 01:32 pianohacker (like projections... <shudder>) 01:32 pianohacker but very cool and useful 01:34 jcamins_away pianohacker: because I am incredibly geeky, I actually intend to -- after using a cartesian system for plotting my datapoints -- convert my data into polar coordinates. 01:35 wizzyrea i bow to your geek-dom 01:35 Brooke kia ora 01:35 pianohacker Hmm. What is this project for? Fun with maps, or are you studying something? 01:35 wizzyrea kia ora brooke 01:35 pianohacker Hey there Brooke 01:35 jcamins_away pianohacker: my MA thesis is going to be on the geographical dispersion and movement of booksellers in Saint Petersburg during the reign of Nicholas II. 01:35 pianohacker Ah, ok 01:36 Brooke jcamins: how's work on me pearl handled revolvers goin? 01:36 pianohacker So polar coords are actually perfect for that 01:36 wizzyrea i uh, guess I never knew what you were getting your MA in? 01:36 * wizzyrea is ashamed 01:36 jcamins_away wizzyrea: Slavic Studies. 01:36 wizzyrea oho 01:37 jcamins_away Brooke: if you mean "are you going to get barred from speaking at Jewish Studies conferences after you deliver your last paper?" the answer is "very well." 01:37 jcamins_away ("last" as in "the one I finished this morning"... approximately a gazillion left to do.) 01:38 Brooke uh oh 01:38 * Brooke is skairt to ask. 01:39 Brooke meeting in 18 01:39 jcamins_away [off] I argued against the existence of a pan-international Jewish "nation" at the end of the nineteenth century. 01:40 Brooke yeah, they're gonna photoshop you outta the paper. 01:40 * jcamins_away admires Gorokhovaia ulitsa. 01:40 jcamins_away google_earth++ 01:41 jcamins_away I know I should be using something open source, but it's just. so. pretty. 01:42 Brooke tell yer Northern Hawai'ian brothas 01:42 Brooke http://storycorps.org/ 01:43 Brooke SpaceLib > AndroUser ;) 01:45 SpaceLib Yeah. @ our 3.4 lunch... :) rock the android! 01:45 Brooke it's always tease, tease, tease 01:46 SpaceLib Hehehe. 01:48 rangi gonna be a little late 01:48 rangi start without us 01:48 SpaceLib Yes. 01:50 * Brooke nominates pianohacker to chair. 01:51 pianohacker wah? 01:51 pianohacker meeting? 01:51 wahanui meeting is, like, on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0 01:51 pianohacker wahanui, forget meeting 01:51 wahanui pianohacker: I forgot meeting 01:52 SpaceLib That's just mean 01:52 pianohacker heh 01:52 pianohacker I was still in school the semester _before_ last when that meeting happened 01:52 pianohacker Is there a meeting now? 01:53 Brooke t minus 5 01:53 SpaceLib About to be 01:53 Brooke 0/ 01:55 pianohacker I will probably disappear soon to deal with dinner, or I would help with meeting 01:56 Brooke pfft 01:56 wizzyrea agenda? 01:56 wizzyrea humbug 01:56 Brooke humbug? 01:57 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_Meeting,_11_May_2011 01:57 SpaceLib Q bah humbug 01:58 druthb If I do the wave to the left, when everyone is doing it to the right, is that an out-of-order motion? 01:58 Brooke #startmeeting 01:58 huginn Meeting started Wed May 11 02:01:13 2011 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:58 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 01:58 Brooke Haere Mai 01:58 Brooke Welcome to the Community Meeting 01:58 Brooke #topic Introductions 01:59 * wizzyrea is Liz Rea, NEKLS 01:59 * druthb is D Ruth Bavousett, ByWater Solutions. 01:59 SpaceLib Shelley gurney, 01:59 SpaceLib Catalyst 01:59 wahanui Catalyst are funding template refactoring 01:59 * jcamins_away = Jared Camins-Esakov, ByWater Solutions 02:00 rhcl rhcl = Greg Lawson, Rolling Hills Consolidated Library, St. Joseph, MO, USA 02:00 * slef = MJ Ray, software.coop member 02:00 mtj = mason james, kohaaloha, nz 02:02 rangi chris c, on his phone walking 02:02 wizzyrea anyone else? 02:02 SpaceLib Ditto 02:02 rangi be at my desk soon 02:02 pianohacker = Jesse Weaver, occasional koha programmer, lurking 02:02 wizzyrea (please watch out for busses and cars) 02:03 Brooke #topic Roadmap to 3.2 02:03 Brooke I'm thinking we might have to skip that 02:03 wizzyrea I notice that chris_n isn't about 02:04 Brooke did he appoint a minion? 02:04 wizzyrea not that I'm aware of :/ 02:04 Brooke right we can always come back should he arrive. 02:05 Brooke #topic Roadmap to 3.0 02:05 Brooke possiblay the same 02:05 wizzyrea hdl sent an email today saying he was going to stop support of 3.0, unless someone else picked it up 02:06 wizzyrea and I'm sure we all appreciate the two years he spent as release maintainer - hdl++ 02:06 Brooke indeed 02:06 Brooke hdl++ 02:06 SpaceLib Hdl++ 02:06 rhcl hdl++ 02:07 wizzyrea I suppose we should formally ask if there is anyone willing to take up RMaint for 3.0? 02:07 Brooke Are there any objections to formal closure of 3.0? That has been a topic of conversation for some time now. 02:07 mtj indeed!, thanx hdl 02:07 wizzyrea or adopting formal closure 02:07 Brooke I would think formal closure if it's not adopted. 02:08 slef we'll see what interest there is 02:08 mtj Brooke: i agree 02:08 Brooke are you interested slef? 02:09 slef but I'll be surprised 02:09 wizzyrea so, should we vote to delay formal end-of-life for 3.0 til next meeting, pending a month for people to decide if they want to pick up maintenance? 02:09 slef don't mind. depends what clients will fund 02:09 slef but I'll be surprised 02:10 rangi right, back at my desk 02:10 Space_Librarian ditto 02:10 Brooke wiz: we've done that for like 2 months now. 02:10 wizzyrea fair enough 02:10 slef we've only one lib on 3.0 with no upgrade plan yet 02:10 mtj if 3.4 is stable, and 3.2 is old-stable, whats 3.0? ..... very-old-stable? 02:10 Space_Librarian ancient stable 02:11 Irma Irma Birchall - CALYX - Sorry for arriving late 02:11 wizzyrea well it's currently without a RMaint, as hdl resigned today ;) 02:11 Brooke a late irma > no irma :) 02:11 wizzyrea so I think that might be it's death knell 02:11 Brooke okay 02:11 Brooke here is what I propose 02:11 Brooke we vote to kill it effective next meeting should no one step up in the interim 02:11 Brooke is that amenable? 02:11 slef yep 02:11 rhcl why did hdl resign? Did he feel that it's time had passed, or is he just too busy? 02:12 rangi bit of both afaict 02:12 wizzyrea ^^ 02:12 rangi and i agree 02:12 wizzyrea I think the time has come 02:12 Brooke any objections to a kill as of next meeting? 02:12 Space_Librarian nope 02:12 mtj nope 02:12 wizzyrea +1 to kill as of next meeting 02:12 rhcl none 02:13 druthb +1 02:13 mtj +1 02:13 Space_Librarian +1 02:13 Brooke reading none, motion carries 02:14 Brooke #action Should 3.0 not be adopted by an RM by next meeting, it will be a very dead parrot. 02:14 Brooke #topic Roadmap to 3.4 02:15 wizzyrea again no chris_n :/ 02:15 rangi oh re 3.2.8 02:15 rangi its in string freeze 02:15 Brooke we should carry a nonsense motion to larn im ;) 02:15 rangi will be released on the 15th 02:15 Brooke oh sweet 02:15 wizzyrea nice :) 02:15 rangi 3.4.1 will go into string freeze then 02:16 rangi and released on the 22nd 02:16 wizzyrea timed_releases++ 02:16 rangi after 3.2.8 depending on if any patches come in, a 3.2.9 and 3.2.10 may follow 02:16 * rangi is reading from chris_n's email 02:16 rangi 3.4.x will be released on the 22nd of every month 02:17 rangi up until october, when 3.6.0 will be released 02:17 rangi (and barring any security issues) 02:17 rangi thats all i know 02:17 rangi you can track progress from here 02:17 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commits_to_cherry-pick_for_3.4 02:19 rangi thats all i know :) 02:19 wizzyrea lovely, thanks 02:19 mtj cool, nice work chris 02:19 Brooke that's a lot :D 02:20 Brooke #topic Roadmap to 3.6 02:20 wizzyrea chris_n++ #for maintaining 2 versions at once 02:20 Brooke indeed 02:20 Brooke chris_n++ 02:20 rangi ok, thats on track 02:20 rangi http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/posts/Work_for_3.6.x/ 02:21 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roadmap_to_3.6 02:21 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow 02:21 rangi nothing more to report really 02:21 rangi just sign off :) 02:21 Irma rangi ++ 02:22 Brooke rangi++ 02:22 wizzyrea rangi++ 02:22 Space_Librarian rangi++ 02:22 rhcl rangi++ 02:22 druthb rangi++ 02:24 Brooke #topic KohaCon 2011 02:24 Brooke not seein kmkale. 02:24 Space_Librarian nope... 02:24 Brooke Bueller? 02:25 wizzyrea hrm 02:25 rangi moving on? 02:25 Brooke I'm going to go with 02:25 Brooke there were several sponsorships so far 02:25 rangi #idea ask kmkale to email the list with an update 02:25 Brooke which is fortunate 02:26 Brooke and there have been a few proposals 02:26 Brooke which is also fortunate 02:26 wahanui okay, Brooke. 02:26 Space_Librarian but no sponsorships from bigger koha users 02:26 Brooke stay posted over at http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/ocs/index.php/k/k11 02:26 Brooke to 02:26 Brooke o 02:26 Brooke #topic KohaCon 2012 02:27 Space_Librarian exciting. Are we still bullying people? 02:27 rhcl ? 02:27 Brooke I prefer "convincing". 02:27 Space_Librarian we were trying persuade some people south america would be good for 2012 last meeting... 02:28 Space_Librarian persuade is also a good word 02:28 * druthb suggests Lawrence, KS, just to hear wizzyrea scream a little. 02:28 Brooke yeah, persuasion, that's the ticket. 02:28 wizzyrea ! 02:28 rhcl I support that! 02:28 rhcl Cheap airfare for me. 02:28 rangi i think north is probably due 02:29 Space_Librarian can we use sparkly red shoes in the logo? 02:29 wizzyrea lol 02:29 wizzyrea there's no place like home, they tell me 02:29 * druthb enjoys making wizzyrea go "!" 02:29 Brooke pfft Europe'd due before North. 02:29 Space_Librarian prince edward island... 02:29 wizzyrea ^^ 02:29 rangi thats what i mean 02:29 Space_Librarian :p 02:29 wizzyrea maybe 2013 ;) 02:29 rangi real north 02:29 Brooke my typing is atrocious, sorry. 02:29 rangi not north america 02:29 Space_Librarian canada? 02:30 Space_Librarian (is still north america) never mind 02:30 rangi but really, there should be no convincing needed, someone should volunteer if they want to 02:30 wizzyrea ^^ 02:30 Brooke tyres might have been kicked 02:30 Brooke just as there were some Africans kicking tyres >:) 02:30 Space_Librarian that's some heavy persuasion there, Brooke 02:31 * Brooke looks innocent. 02:31 Space_Librarian magnus_away did say may 2013 as well... 02:31 Space_Librarian maybe* 02:31 Brooke well, we thought about it, and nengard's not here to pester us about acting on it 02:31 Space_Librarian true 02:32 Brooke oooh there's a thought. I'd only mind if it conflicted with eg 02:32 Brooke which I think would be a bad idea. 02:32 slef can we call for dates before next meeting? 02:32 Space_Librarian UK - since their nat archives will be on Koha... 02:33 druthb There was some talk at KUDOS last week about having a joing EG and KUDOS con starting in 2013. Most of the enthusiasm came from the two or three folks who attended both... 02:33 Brooke not to mention we had UK last bid round :D 02:33 Space_Librarian we did... 02:33 Irma what are we hoping to achieve discussing Kohacon 2012 at this stage? 02:33 slef bah it's unethical to go round announcing your clients 02:33 Space_Librarian a shortlist by the time koha2011 finishes 02:34 Brooke and it ought give people a wee bit more prep time than they've had in the past. 02:34 Space_Librarian preferably the next conference venue 02:34 Irma Is it time then to call on the e-list for expressions of interest? 02:34 wizzyrea yep, let's do that 02:35 Space_Librarian you'll need a set of dates for that... 02:35 Space_Librarian otherwise, good idea. 02:35 Brooke #idea listserv eoi for KohaCon 2012 02:35 wizzyrea nah, that's part of the eoi 02:35 Brooke sponsor decides dates methinks 02:35 wizzyrea ^^ 02:35 * Space_Librarian nods 02:35 slef look 02:35 Irma re dates: we need to look at an international list of library events ... 02:36 Space_Librarian yeah. 02:36 slef last time, ppl complained about collisions with other events 02:36 Space_Librarian got that problem in NZ this year 02:37 slef I don't know where to find dates for events in Aus or India... let's get some boundaries 02:37 Brooke it's always going to collide with something, just hopefully that something is not something that would sap attendance 02:37 slef hope and two quid will buy you a coffee :-/ 02:37 Irma the IFLA website has events info 02:38 Space_Librarian so does ALIA... for international conferences 02:38 slef cool, are there gaps? 02:38 Space_Librarian ALA mid-June... 02:39 wizzy_away (for just a min) 02:39 Irma I suggest we ask on the e-list and produce a Doodle survey for the best month 02:39 druthb Irma++ 02:40 Space_Librarian good idea 02:40 Irma and the sponsor makes the last decision 02:40 slef Irma: good idea. can you? 02:40 Irma sponsor/host 02:40 Irma I can slef if you like ... 02:40 Brooke #idea doodle survey for best month for KohaCon 02:40 slef I like 02:40 Irma Brooke? Do you wish me to prepare that? 02:40 slef Irma++ 02:41 Brooke Do I ever :D 02:41 Brooke Irma++ 02:41 Brooke I shall be your minion if necessary. 02:41 slef #action Irma to doodle for best month 02:41 Irma Ok then "watch that space" 02:41 Space_Librarian Irma++ 02:41 slef #action Brooke to provide general minioning 02:42 Brooke tough act to follow, but does anyone else have any bril ideas on this topic? 02:42 Brooke pfft, not general minioning, minioning to Irma :P 02:42 Space_Librarian hehe 02:42 Irma hehe 02:43 Brooke righto 02:43 Space_Librarian er... will get back to you. 02:43 Space_Librarian we had a good list last meeting 02:43 Brooke #topic DB Documentation Management 02:44 rangi no nicole 02:44 rangi i propose we save this for next meeting 02:44 Brooke tabled barring objections 02:44 druthb +1 to table 02:44 Space_Librarian +1 to table 02:44 Irma +1 to table 02:44 rhcl +1 02:45 Brooke right DB Documentation Management may now kiss the bride. 02:45 slef +1 to shelve 02:45 Brooke #topic Miscellaneous Olde Business. 02:45 slef ;-) 02:45 Brooke MJ 02:45 Brooke ba dum cha 02:46 Brooke nuffin? 02:47 slef not yet, not prepared 02:47 * Space_Librarian watches the tumbleweed roll past 02:47 Brooke k 02:47 Brooke #topic time of next meeting 02:49 rhcl this time didn't seem to promote a good turnout 02:49 rangi 8 hours from now 02:49 rangi continue on the 8 hour rotation 02:49 rangi ? 02:49 Space_Librarian yep 02:49 Irma yep 02:49 Space_Librarian 14 June? 02:49 rangi so 10:00 UTC 02:49 Irma and consult the elaborate spreadsheet prepared after last meeting 02:50 rangi oh god, do we have to? 02:50 Space_Librarian :) 02:50 rangi spreadsheets make me vomit 02:50 rangi i think im allergic 02:50 slef me only if xlsx 02:50 Irma all is good guys ... I was just kidding! 02:50 rangi phew :) 02:51 slef Real Community are here 02:51 Brooke ya mean http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Meeting_Starting_Times 02:51 Brooke ? 02:51 Space_Librarian 10:00 UTC an issue? 02:52 Irma yes Brooke but it was to inform us of the past to make the future easier and as fair as possible 02:52 Brooke a yep 02:52 wizzyrea ya, +8h from now 02:52 Brooke that was a yep to Irma 02:52 Space_Librarian when? 02:52 Irma +8 hours from now is good for me too 02:52 Brooke it is also nice because it doesn't screw Europe, who was screwed this go. 02:52 wahanui okay, Brooke. 02:53 wizzyrea forget it 02:53 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot it 02:53 jcamins_away Wasn't it 10:00 UTC last month? 02:53 Irma what time would that be for you wizzyrea? 02:53 rangi oh maybe we need to go -8 then 02:53 wizzyrea 5am is early for me, with luck i'd have insomnia ;) 02:53 rangi lemme look 02:53 * jcamins_away has no objection, just confused 'cause he thought he remembered being up super-early last time. 02:53 rangi yes it was 02:53 Space_Librarian should be -8 02:54 Space_Librarian 6am for us... 02:54 rangi so this one should be -8 02:54 rangi thats ok 02:54 rangi im never asleep past then ;) 02:54 wizzyrea 1pm in CDT 02:54 slef it'd be nice if ppl would send apologies if they won't be here ;) 02:54 rangi good for europe and the US 02:54 Irma 4am for me then a bike ride ... OK! That works! 02:54 * wizzyrea curses daylight savings 02:54 * jcamins_away sends his apologies for June's meeting. 02:54 Space_Librarian do we have a date? 02:55 rangi you cant make 1pm jcamins_away ? 02:55 jcamins_away rangi: I can't make June. 02:55 rangi ahh 02:55 wizzyrea I think he'll be away somewhere exotic :) 02:55 rangi note it on the wiki page ;-) 02:55 slef jcamins_away: to the wiki is best, when it's there 02:55 slef snap! 02:55 Irma Space_librarian Good question! 02:55 wizzyrea it'd be 2 for him, he's in eastern ^.^ 02:55 Space_Librarian i thought so. :) 02:56 rangi 14 is fine by me 02:56 Brooke Holdin' it down on the East Siiiiidie. 02:56 wizzyrea keepin the middle from blowin awayeeee 02:56 Brooke yeah boy. 02:56 wizzyrea bg's kickin it on the WC 02:56 * Brooke is officially punchy. 02:57 jcamins_away Brooke++ # see, someone else *does* use the word punchy 02:57 wizzyrea :) 02:57 wizzyrea so 02:57 Space_Librarian so 6am on the 15th (NZDST) for moi 02:57 slef 14 ok afaict 02:57 druthb "A motion to adjourn is always in order." 'specially with the chair-being getting punchy. 02:58 Brooke can't 02:58 slef jcamins_away: what about snuck and frit? 02:58 Brooke I am chained to the gavel until we've a proper time and vote. 02:58 * druthb is close enough to Brooke to get punched....so.... 02:58 rangi ok so 14 June 18:00 UTC 02:58 Irma Brooke June 15th? 02:58 slef rangi++ 02:58 Brooke argh conflicting motions 02:58 rangi theres the proper 02:58 wizzyrea there it is 02:58 Space_Librarian 14th 02:58 rangi vote you scoundrels 02:58 Brooke traffic copping Rangi first 02:58 druthb +1 #rangi 02:59 wizzyrea 14 june 18:00 UTC 02:59 Space_Librarian +1 02:59 * rangi may have had a couple of beers at lunch 02:59 Brooke 14th June 18:00 UTC +1 02:59 wizzyrea +1 02:59 Space_Librarian he did too 02:59 jcamins_away slef: nah, those're Englishisms. ;) 02:59 Irma Brooke do you want me to add May and June to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Meeting_Starting_Times ? 02:59 wizzyrea doo eet 02:59 Brooke Irma I'll do eet 02:59 wizzyrea move to get back to your regularly scheduled koha bidniz 02:59 Brooke that's yeoman's woik. 02:59 Irma thanks Brooke 02:59 Brooke k 02:59 Space_Librarian oh, can we short out wiki email validation things yet? 03:00 Brooke barring objections 14 June 1800 UTC it is. 03:00 wizzyrea no gmcharlt tonight :( 03:00 Space_Librarian d'oh 03:00 Brooke fine 03:00 slef Space_Librarian: in what way JOOI? 03:00 Brooke #action 14 June 1800 UTC Next Meeting 03:00 Brooke #endmeeting 03:00 huginn Meeting ended Wed May 11 03:03:55 2011 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 03:00 huginn Minutes: http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2011/koha.2011-05-11-02.01.html 03:00 huginn Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2011/koha.2011-05-11-02.01.txt 03:00 huginn Log: http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2011/koha.2011-05-11-02.01.log.html 03:00 Space_Librarian slef ? 03:00 wahanui somebody said slef was an avid cyclist 03:01 rangi slef: the wiki currently cant send emails, they are working on afaik 03:01 slef jcamins_away: heh, regionalisms 03:01 slef rangi: oic 03:01 rangi (someone was spamming through the mail) 03:01 rangi i hate spammers 03:01 wizzyrea spammers-- 03:01 * druthb waves, and stumbles off to bed. 03:01 Space_Librarian bye ruth! 03:02 * wizzyrea commences more who ssn 5 03:02 slef I hate mediawiki's apparent lack of sane antispam 03:02 Irma waves and thinks about work for clients ... 03:02 * Space_Librarian envious of wizzyrea 03:02 * Oak waves 03:02 Space_Librarian hey 03:03 slef Space_Librarian: you can login with openid though? 03:03 Irma druthb sleep well :)! 03:03 * jcamins_away regretfully tears himself away from maps, and goes to get some sleep. So much on catching up on sleep tonight. 03:03 Space_Librarian nope. 03:03 wizzyrea still have to vaildate :( 03:03 Space_Librarian you need to have your email verified now 03:03 Space_Librarian and it doesn't send out the validation email 03:03 slef oh that sucks 03:04 rangi prolly not much point discussing it without gmcharlt 03:04 jcamins_away Lighthouses of NZ! So cool! 03:04 * Irma says "Ciao" and runs away 03:04 slef gmcharlt is single point of admin? 03:04 Space_Librarian it appears so 03:04 rangi no, but it is an esi machine 03:04 slef Irma: ciao 03:05 Space_Librarian bye Irma 03:05 rangi thd is an admin too 03:05 slef who is also afk... ok 03:05 Space_Librarian haven't seen him in a while either... 03:05 rangi but i think we need someone to set up their mta 03:05 rangi so not the actual wiki 03:05 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration#wiki.koha-community.org 03:06 rangi none of them around 03:06 slef postfix and exim4 security alerts last few days btw 03:06 rangi *nod* 03:06 wizzyrea oof 03:06 rangi the exim4 one was quite nasty 03:06 jcamins_away Good night, #koha 03:06 rangi cya jcamins_away 03:06 * Space_Librarian waves at jcamins_away 03:06 wizzyrea bye jcamins 03:06 wizzyrea lol 03:08 slef is this email validation thing in bugs? 03:08 rangi dunno 03:09 Brooke the upload thing bothers me much more than the no email thing 03:09 slef bug 6324 03:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6324 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver. 03:09 wizzyrea no email = no new contributors = bad 03:10 wizzyrea :/ 03:10 slef I don't see the email thing in bugs. I don't have my login on this pc 03:10 wizzyrea i can file one 03:10 slef I'll file it i... ok, thanks 03:11 wizzyrea I'm already in :) 03:11 slef at least then we can bug gmcharlt async'ly 03:11 wizzyrea i know he's well aware, but super busy this week 03:11 slef and see if it's fixed without retesting 03:12 slef super busy is the new normal 03:12 wizzyrea ;) 03:12 slef speaking of which, I'll be back in a few hours 03:13 slef parting thought: does the low turnout mean that community participation is insufficiently rewarded at the moment? 03:13 wizzyrea bug 6326 03:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6326 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Mail not going out from Wiki 03:14 wizzyrea it seems lower just after a release 03:14 slef parting thought 2: slutwalktoronto.com ??? 03:14 rangi i think its more there isnt a lot to talk about at the moment 03:15 wizzyrea ?! 03:15 wizzyrea ohh 03:15 rangi my thought is that cop is a dbag 03:15 wizzyrea ^^ 03:16 rhcl slutwalklawrence++ 03:16 wizzyrea at all stars, right? 03:16 rhcl huh, what's All Stars? 03:16 wizzyrea with wifi 03:17 mtj slef: i'm prepping the launch of my new website as we speak... manwhorestrut.co.nz 03:17 wizzyrea i don't kno whether to laugh or clap 03:17 wizzyrea or both 03:17 mtj ... or strut! 03:17 Oak do both 03:17 Brooke heh 03:18 Brooke the things I return to when I mess with that hijeous table. 03:19 rhcl time for me beddy-bye 03:52 Brooke right 03:52 Brooke actually sleepay 03:52 Brooke night #koha 03:52 rangi cya Brooke 03:52 rangi thanks for chairing 03:53 Brooke only thing I can contrib 04:01 wizzyrea @later tell nengard ping me when you have a chance re: identi.ca login :) 04:01 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 04:32 pianohacker all right. good night, all 05:06 cait hi koha 05:06 Space_Librarian hey cait 05:06 cait hi Space_Librarian 05:06 cait :) 05:07 Space_Librarian ;) 05:22 cait oh 05:23 cait meeting at 4pm today for me - that's evil for nz, isn't it? 05:26 hyj hi everybody 05:27 hyj could anyone tell me how to uninstall koha from debian 05:29 cait or did I miss it already? 05:29 * cait is now confused 05:30 cait ok, obviously I did 05:34 hyj hello, could anyone tell me how to uninstall koha 05:34 eythian hyj: how did you install it? 05:35 eythian cait: yeah, you missed it 05:35 cait reading the logs now :( 05:35 hyj I installed it from debian repository 05:35 cait must be the first meeting in ages that I missed 05:35 cait 4 am not pm 05:35 eythian hyj: then "apt-get remove koha-common" 05:36 eythian cait: they kicked you out of the project because you missed the meeting, btw ;) 05:36 hyj only this command needed 05:36 eythian hyj: should be yeah 05:36 cait eythian: :P 05:37 hyj ok thanks eythian. I will try this command 05:38 eythian g'luck 05:38 cait eythian: this will not help you, I will still ask for the bug ;) 05:38 eythian cait: can't, got to go to malaysia to attend a Koha workshop. 05:38 cait excuses.... 05:38 wahanui cait: Redundant ACLs. 05:39 cait feel like this game is being repeated a lot 05:40 eythian hehe 05:40 eythian it does seem that way 05:40 eythian all I really need is a free time upgrade 05:44 cait we all do I think :( 05:46 cait excuse? 05:46 wahanui cait: struck by the Good Times virus 05:51 cait eythian: how long will you be away? 05:51 eythian dunno yet, probably about a week 05:52 eythian thinking I might take a couple of days either before or after as a holiday and to visit friends there 05:54 cait cool 05:54 cait have fun :) 05:57 eythian I will, it's not until July though 06:02 cait ok,now you have a problem - if it's in july - you need a new excuse 06:02 eythian heh 06:02 eythian I'm still working on a migration? 06:04 eythian wahanui: migration is <reply>If only they were using Koha to start with... 06:04 wahanui ...but migration is hard... 06:04 eythian wahanui: migration is also <reply>If only they were using Koha to start with... 06:04 wahanui okay, eythian. 06:04 cait ok, this will count for today... 06:10 cait will ask again tomorrow :) 06:10 cait or perhaps I will give up asking you and create a very general accounts rewrite bu 06:10 cait g 06:11 cait and link everything to it I think you should solve :) 06:15 eythian haha 06:29 cait bonjour hdl 06:29 cait bbl 06:37 hyj eythian: one more doubt. when I am rebuilding zebra I m getting a warning "index 'Record control number' not found in attsets" . how can i resolv it? 06:38 eythian hmm. I'm not sure. 06:38 eythian It means something, and someone here will probably know, but I can't remember what that is. 08:14 kf hi #koha 09:07 rangi oh thats cool 09:08 rangi http://catalogo.pusc.it/ 09:08 rangi nice link back to koha-community 09:08 rangi pusc++ 09:09 rangi cilea++ 09:11 kf pusc++ 09:17 kf hdl++ 10:26 kf hdl++ 10:27 kf hdl: I think it works - inserting the sql gave me some strange behaviour (some links not working), I am creating it from scratch now :) 11:03 kf IT WORKS! 11:03 kf that had to be said :) 11:53 * chris_n crawls in from a nearly 48 hour work run and expresses regrets for missing the meeting... again :P 11:57 * paul_p just realize he missed the meeting (but it was 4AM in France, so I wouldn't have been here anyway !) 11:58 paul_p hello chris_n ! 12:02 conan good morning all 12:09 kf hi chris_n 12:09 kf I missed the meeting too 12:09 kf accidently, but sleeping was probably the better idea 12:19 conan I feel like I need one extra hour sleep 13:03 Cybermon hi all. 13:05 oleonard Hi Cybermon 13:05 Cybermon how are you 13:25 Cybermon anybody here ? 13:26 oleonard Yes Cybermon do you have a question? 13:26 Cybermon yesw 13:27 Cybermon when i update patron data via opac section. but not updated 13:27 oleonard Submitting an update from the OPAC simply emails the Koha administrator a list of the changes. It does not actually update the database. 13:28 Cybermon it mean not possible this moment ? 13:28 oleonard From the manual, "Patrons can edit their details in this form and click 'Submit Changes' to have their edits sent to the library for review before their record is updated." 13:29 Cybermon i see 13:29 oleonard A librarian must be the one to actually input the changes. 13:29 Cybermon could you provide me the manual link ? 13:30 oleonard http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-4-manual-en/?ch=x11518#opacmydetails 13:34 Cybermon i have 3.2.7 13:37 oleonard http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x10937#opacmydetails 13:37 oleonard The same. 13:37 Cybermon thanks olenard! 13:39 Cybermon 'Submit Changes' to have their edits sent to the library for review before their record is updated. where located review before ? 13:39 oleonard An email is sent to the Koha administrator 13:40 Cybermon i see. 13:40 Cybermon maybe, I made wrong SMTP configuration during installation. 13:40 Cybermon can i fix smtp configuration ? 13:41 oleonard I'm sure you can, but I don't know how :) 13:41 Cybermon :-) 13:42 Cybermon let's search in forum 13:49 wizzyrea put away the duct tape, I think I'm here to stay :P 13:50 kf hehe 13:53 wizzyrea meeting is 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 13:53 wizzyrea meeting? 13:53 wahanui meeting is, like, 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 13:53 wizzyrea Next IRC meeting is 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 13:53 wizzyrea next meeting? 13:53 wahanui rumour has it next meeting is Apr 5 13:53 wizzyrea forget next meeting 13:53 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot next meeting 13:53 wizzyrea Next IRC meeting 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 13:53 wizzyrea Next meeting is 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 13:53 wizzyrea next meeting? 13:53 wahanui next meeting is, like, 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 13:53 wizzyrea there we go 13:54 oleonard Hey, a meeting I'll be at! 13:54 oleonard ...because I'll be here anyway, and it'll be hard not to notice. 13:55 oleonard Wolfram Alpha, sorry I only visit you to find out when IRC meetings are. 14:00 kf hehe 14:00 kf me too 14:00 kf but got up too late for the meeting today :( 14:23 slef yeah yeah excuses excuses ;-) 14:23 Cybermon bye all 14:25 kf excuse 14:25 wahanui kf: A star wars satellite accidently blew up the WAN. 14:25 jcamins wahanui: oh is that what it is? 14:25 wahanui jcamins: i haven't a clue 14:25 kf is rangi really writing mails this time of the day? 14:26 rangi yes, because rangi is awake 14:26 kf and why is rangi awake? 14:26 kf ;) 14:26 rangi because kahu has a toy, that when its battery went flat 14:26 rangi started yelling 'A B C ...' 14:26 * jcamins laughs 14:26 rangi and waking up everyone 14:26 kf lol 14:26 wizzyrea did you have to scrounge up a screwdriver to get the battery out? 14:27 rangi it was that, or kick it into submission 14:27 wizzyrea because that would be the infuriating bit for me :P 14:27 rangi whcih i would have done if kahu wasnt watching :) 14:27 wizzyrea or put it outside in the trunk of the car 14:27 kf walls are great for that too 14:28 oleonard My wife freaked out last night because a dish towel was crawling across the floor at her. Turns out there was a little toy under it. 14:28 wizzyrea lol! 14:28 rangi heh, much better than the alternative 14:29 oleonard Very close to the alternative. It was one of these: http://www.hexbug.com/ 14:29 rangi speaking of toys, the fish has lasted through both boys 14:29 oleonard :D 14:29 kf the fish? 14:29 rangi kf: oleonard sent a very cool wooden fish for kahu when he was very very little 14:29 wizzyrea those hexbug things are cool 14:30 kf oleonard++ 14:30 rangi ok i should go back to sleep, on site with a client at 9am 14:31 * wizzyrea purposefully ignores rangi, as being too interesting means he'll be awake longer 14:31 oleonard Yes, the answer is always go back to sleep 14:31 rangi night :) 14:41 kf nengard: around? 14:43 nengard yes 14:43 nengard sort of 14:46 kf ah 14:46 kf writing you a mail 14:46 kf gmail ok? 14:47 * Oak is here 14:49 nengard yes 14:49 nengard gmail 14:49 nengard a-ok 14:49 kf sent 14:49 kf my serials problem 14:49 kf hdl solved it :) 14:57 rhcl OK, so when a patron looses a book, and they come in and pay for it, the staff marks the item as lost and paid for. 14:57 rhcl Is there no mechanism to automaticallly notify the selector for that type of item that it's now out of the collection and they should consider buying a replacement copy? 14:58 wizzyrea not that I'm aware of, but that would be a cool feature you should add it as an enhancement bug :) 14:59 rhcl I was trying to think how such a process might work. There isn't, that I'm aware of, anything in an item record that indicates who the selector is for that item type. 14:59 jcamins rhcl: weekly report, usually. 15:02 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6328] Fine in days does not work <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6328> 15:16 adnc rangi, hello. is there a estimation when koha 3.4 will be available in packaged version? 15:18 oleonard Too early for rangi adnc 15:18 adnc oleonard, ohh 16:01 cait hi #koha 16:59 * Oak was here 17:37 * oleonard is off to the dentist 17:49 briceSanc hello all 17:55 slef hi briceSanc 17:55 cait hi slef and briceSanc 17:55 briceSanc Do you konow if Koha 3.2.x has this functionnality : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3506#c2 ? 17:55 huginn 04Bug 3506: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED , Block checkout of items with pending holds (allow supervisor override) 17:56 jcamins briceSanc: it does not. 17:56 slef I don't think that code will be in it because it's for the PTFS fork. 17:57 slef you could try porting the patch from the PTFS fork and I would thank you for it 17:58 briceSanc slef, =) 17:58 briceSanc Is there an equivalent of this functionnality on Koha 3.2.x ? 17:58 cait I am not sure I like the idea of supervisor overrides 17:58 jcamins cait: they're an important feature for US libraries. 17:59 cait ok 17:59 cait never saw that here 17:59 sekjal cait: we were talking about this amongst ourselves yesterday 17:59 slef porting will have become harder over time because PTFS don't seem to update their Koha any more 17:59 cait sekjal: perhaps something that needs to be flexible 17:59 jcamins cait: in a lot of universities, circ desks are staffed almost entirely by student workers, who are not allowed to handle money for legal reasons. 17:59 cait having a pref / permissions 17:59 jcamins So what we really need is a sudo function. :) 17:59 sekjal supervisor override comes from another ILS system, so it's expected by some libraries migrating from that 18:00 sekjal jcamins said it 18:00 cait yep 18:00 cait I think I know where it comes from 18:00 cait we tested that for a while 18:00 sekjal something AJAX-y to temporarily change the login 18:00 briceSanc slef, i need to work on this but the customer need to approve the work before releasing... 18:01 slef sekjal: AJAX :-( why not a sudo function? 18:01 slef briceSanc: yeah I know that problem 18:02 sekjal slef: I'm thinking the elevating of permissions should not cause a whole page reload; using AJAX would give us a slick way to implement this in the staff client 18:03 sekjal the backend would still be based in C4/Auth.pm, involving the storage of a temporary login (with expiration) 18:05 slef sekjal: # don't fear the reload 18:07 sekjal slef: I'm also worried about making sure we wound up after the reload with the same message on screen that prompted it 18:08 sekjal that seems like it could introduce complexity to the coding.... though whether moreso than AJAX, I cannot say 18:08 * slef mutters something about continuations and wanders back to his coding 18:10 yhager Hi, I have a (corrupted?) record that generates the following error on search: Error: Can't call method "as_usmarc" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 2384. (koha 3.2.5) 18:11 yhager What's the best way to handle that, and is there a way to avoid such a problem? 18:14 rangi yhager: for newer versions of koha (not sure if it will be in 3.2.8 but is in 3.4.0 ) better error handling for corrupt records was added 18:15 rangi for now, i think the only way to find hte corrupt record is to add a warn to the search code 18:15 rangi that warns the biblionumber 18:16 yhager rangi: ok, I'll guess I need to upgrade to 3.4 then.. I was waiting for 3.4.x (x>0) actually.. 18:16 rangi then hopefully you can find the corrupt record 18:16 rangi yhager: one other option 18:16 rangi yhager: yeah if you can wait to 3.4.1 i would 18:17 yhager I only have one record like that at the moment, and we are still catalouging, so it's not urgent 18:17 rangi right, maybe add the warns to opac-search.pl 18:17 rangi and see if you can find the corrupt one 18:18 yhager rangi: i know exactly the name of the book, but then what do I do? delete directly from the DB? 18:18 rangi or if you have an idea which one it might be, take a look in the db 18:18 rangi yhager: id have a look at the record first, biblioitems table 18:18 rangi look at the marc and marcxml columns 18:19 rangi yuo may be able to spot what is wrong 18:19 rangi deleting would be an option, but you might be able to update the row instead (its most likely something wrong in the marcxml) 18:26 yhager rangi: marcxml is a valid xml, so I don't know what kind of corruption I am looking for. Here is the record: http://pastebin.ca/2056950 18:27 rangi hmm that does look fine to me 18:27 rangi if you try and edit the record in koha, does it show up ok? 18:27 jcamins yhager: did you try reindexing? 18:28 rangi oh good point jcamins 18:28 yhager rangi: no, it doesn't show. How do I reindex? 18:28 rangi rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v -x 18:28 rangi id try that 18:32 yhager done, still, I get the same error when searching the catalog 18:33 rangi and when you edit the record, it shows up blank? 18:33 rangi you may have to munge the url to get to an edit screen (edit a good record, and then change the biblionumber) 18:36 yhager rangi: the edit screen loads with no error. It shows the record.. 18:38 yhager maybe my assumption that I know which record is it is wrong 18:38 rangi its beginning to feel that way 18:45 rhcl @seen wizzyrea 18:45 huginn rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 46 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> not that I'm aware of, but that would be a cool feature you should add it as an enhancement bug :) 18:45 yhager ok, it's strange. When I set the url to show the record, it shows fine, including edit. When I search for the ISBN, I get that error 18:45 wizzyrea i'm here yo ;) 18:46 druthb hi, wizzyrea. :D 18:46 wizzyrea heyas 18:46 rangi yhager: hmmm it does feel like the index eh? no weird messages when you reindexed? 18:46 rhcl [off] one of our staff has created a bunch of Jing "how to's", but they all use and show patron info, which we can 18:46 rangi yhager: if you edit it and save, then run 18:47 rangi rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z -v 18:47 wizzyrea [off] oops 18:47 rangi it should just index that one record 18:47 rhcl 't release to the world. How hard is it in Jing to blur the patron info? 18:47 rangi maybe will spot anything weird 18:47 wizzyrea difficult, after the fact 18:47 wizzyrea unless you have pro 18:47 wizzyrea if you have jing pro you can dump it into imobie 18:48 wizzyrea or another similar video editor 18:48 wizzyrea and do it there 18:48 wizzyrea imo*vie 18:48 wizzyrea what I do is have test patrons and test bibs 18:48 * jcamins thought imobie sounded more fun. It's a computer screen with no back. :) 18:49 wizzyrea then you're never mucking with real data 18:49 rhcl yep 18:49 wizzyrea we use superheroes and xmen 18:49 wizzyrea :P 18:49 wizzyrea (and their fictional families_ 18:49 yhager hmm.. I actually see a couple of permission denied errors from rebuild_zebra.pl.. Should it be ran as root, or the koha user? 18:49 rangi ohh 18:50 rangi it should be run as the user who runs the cron jobs and the user that zebrasrv runs as 18:50 rangi normally that is the koha user 18:50 rangi sudo -u koha rebuild_zebra etc 18:51 rangi so id check what user is doing the cron job, and what user is running zebrasrv and when you manually rebuild run it as that user 18:51 yhager rangi: yeah, that's what I did. I don't have a zebrasrv process in the system, and /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios is owned by root, so the koha user cannot work there 18:52 sekjal wizzyrea: just a note, we've updated our public demo at intranet.bywatersolutions.com to current HEAD, so if you'd like to update k-c.org, it's now closer to 3.4 than 3.2 18:52 wizzyrea kk 18:52 sekjal thanks! :) 18:52 rangi hmm no zebrasrv runnin? 18:52 wizzyrea u got it :) 18:52 yhager rangi: no zebrasrv, and no cron jobs. did I miss an important part of the installation? 18:53 rangi you must be running nozebra then? 18:53 wizzyrea right and you know what sekjal 18:53 wizzyrea I meant to remove that lil blurb ages ago 18:53 wizzyrea in favor of the entire page of demos 18:53 rangi in which case, my advice is switch to using zebra, and look in the instructions for the part about setting up zebra 18:53 wizzyrea :) 18:53 wizzyrea hi skushner 18:54 skushner hi wizzy 18:54 yhager rangi: yes, IIRC, I run nozebra. How do I switch? 18:54 yhager actually, why should I switch? what does it mean? 18:55 rangi nozebra has been officially deprecated for 3.4, and is pretty much unsupported for 3.2 18:55 yhager rangi: good enough reason for me :) 18:55 rangi it means it uses mysql tables for oing the search 18:55 skushner when r we going to solr 18:55 rangi skushner: not touching that question with a bargepole 18:55 rangi yhager: for now you could try a rebuild_nozebra.pl 18:55 yhager ok, I'll set up zebra then. Thanks. 18:55 wizzyrea probably when the dev is made to make using solr an option instead of a requirement, like we did with zebra/nozebra 18:56 wizzyrea just sayin 18:56 yhager rangi: same command line switches? 18:56 * wizzyrea touches it, runs 18:56 rangi yhager: i cant recall, i think running it with none will prompt you 18:57 rangi yhager: and with the switch to zebra is setting up zebra then toggling the syspref, so you can always toggle the syspref back too 18:57 yhager rangi: ok, great. Thanks for your help! 18:58 yhager oh! rebuild_nozebra.pl fixed it 18:58 rangi right so we were on the right track, it was a bad index 18:58 rangi zebra is faster and more powerful 18:58 wizzyrea zebra's better, but yay it's fixed! 18:59 rangi but now you have time to set up properly and test :) 18:59 rangi jcamins++ 18:59 rangi for thnking of reindexing 19:00 rangi ok breakfasting the animals, i mean children, bbiab 19:01 yhager Yeah, I'll set up zebra. Thx guys! 19:56 rangi busy bus today 20:01 rhcl raining? 20:02 ibeardslee was hosing down last night .. what a racket 20:02 rangi threatening to 20:03 rangi yeah it sure was 20:06 talljoy I have a Koha install question. 20:06 adnc any news when koh 3.4 will be available for debian packaged? 20:07 talljoy I've gotten to the 1.4 of the Install of Koha Debian. The command install_misc/apt-get-debian-lenny.sh gives me the error message of "no such file or directory". What am I missing here? 20:07 talljoy FYI this is for Koha 3.4 20:09 wizzyrea ah 20:09 wizzyrea can you do a pwd? 20:09 wizzyrea on your command line? 20:09 wizzyrea talljoy 20:09 talljoy I'm the root user at the moment 20:09 wizzyrea that's ok, what does 'pwd' tell you? 20:10 wizzyrea (print working directory) 20:10 talljoy it tells me /root 20:10 wizzyrea aha 20:10 wizzyrea ok 20:10 wizzyrea what directory did you download koha into? 20:10 talljoy this one. when I list the files...there is the tarball 20:10 wizzyrea (usually something like kohaclone) 20:10 talljoy i'm guessing i should move it! 20:11 wizzyrea for a test install that's ok 20:11 wizzyrea have you untar'd the file? 20:11 talljoy not yet. 20:11 wizzyrea do that first :) 20:11 talljoy might be a good place to do that! Any suggestions on doing it in a specific directory? 20:11 wizzyrea tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz 20:11 wizzyrea for a test install right? 20:12 indradg hi... anyone here using the spine labels generated by Koha? 20:12 talljoy yes 20:12 wizzyrea yep, that'll be fine 20:12 talljoy okay. let me pound away on that and try again. Thx wizzyrea 20:12 wizzyrea sure thing :) 20:13 indradg wizzyrea, at your place, do you generate the spine labels from Koha? 20:14 wizzyrea some of our libraries do 20:16 indradg wizzyrea, great! I could use a tip... i have a situation, apart from the date accessioned range, I need to support a range select based on accession nos.. where should i start tinkering around to add that feature... any idea? 20:19 indradg the label-item-search.pl or the search.tmpl or simply via IntranetUserJS using a bit of jQuery? 20:20 nengard howdy margo 20:21 nengard and cait 20:21 margo hi nengard 20:21 margo i have some stupid questions 20:21 cait hi nengard and margo :) 20:21 margo hey cait! 20:21 cait there are no stupid questions :) 20:21 margo lol 20:21 margo i'm working with circ on the fast add framework 20:22 nengard which you found a bug with!! :( 20:22 nengard hehe 20:22 margo yes, delightful 20:22 margo anyway, after the fast add part, do we still have to add an item? 20:22 nengard yes 20:22 margo even though we've put in a barcode? 20:22 nengard and you can make the item 'fast' too 20:22 wizzyrea indradg: that's an interesting question, chris_n is really the expert on labels 20:22 nengard the barcode is on the item record 20:23 nengard where are you putting it? 20:23 margo in the fast add 20:23 nengard in the bib? 20:23 nengard i mean what field are you putting it in 20:23 margo lol 952p, i mean 20:23 nengard oh that's the item 20:23 nengard so you're adding an item already 20:23 nengard you're all set 20:23 wizzyrea re: fast add 20:23 margo it's not showing up 20:23 nengard btw - tutorial video: http://bywatersolutions.blip.tv/file/4018939/ 20:24 margo the item or barcode 20:24 nengard oh ... hmmmm 20:24 wizzyrea nm 20:24 indradg chris_n, how do I add the option for a accession no. range into the item search for labels? 20:24 nengard okay walk me through your steps margo and i'll see if i can find where it's breaking - or is this on a system we have access to? 20:24 indradg i mean... what are my options here... the label-item-search.pl or the search.tmpl or simply via IntranetUserJS using a bit of jQuery? 20:25 margo did we give you a password when you were here? 20:30 wizzyrea I don't think jquery will do it 20:30 wizzyrea indradg 20:30 wizzyrea probably there will have to be some modification of both the template and the script, but I haven't looked at it. 3.4 lets you do batches of scanned in barcodes, which is neat 20:31 wizzyrea almost as helpful as a range of dates :) 20:31 wizzyrea if you have the books handy 20:31 indradg wizzyrea, unfortunately i've to work with 3.2.7 20:31 wizzyrea aha, and no chance of updating? 20:31 indradg not rightaway 20:32 indradg its a govt client.. which wants to play safe... 20:32 wizzyrea :) understandable 20:32 indradg once 3.4.x is out for a quarter they would 20:32 wimommy is there a way to delete multiple holds on different titles at one time? 20:32 wizzyrea you could take a look at the current version and try to cherry pick the batch barcode bit 20:33 indradg i think i'll try that wizzyrea 20:33 wizzyrea wimommy: i'm not sure what you mean exactly 20:33 wizzyrea wimommy: do you mean item A has 6 holds, item B has 10 holds 20:33 wizzyrea you want a way to delete all 16 holds? 20:33 wizzyrea at one time? 20:33 wimommy I have a list of different titles that are on hold. With the end of the school year, I want to delete those holds. Is there a way to do this instead of going doing it individually on each title? 20:33 wizzyrea @quote get 123 20:33 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 20:33 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 20:34 wimommy wizzyrea: I'm on v. 3.01 20:34 wizzyrea hmmm 20:35 * rangi waves from the coffee shop 20:35 * wizzyrea waves at rangi 20:35 rangi 20 mins til meeting 20:35 rangi not in koha wimommy certainly not in really old koha either :) 20:35 wizzyrea wimommy: I don't think there's a way to do that through the UI 20:36 rangi but you could do it with a report to get a list, then some sql in the db 20:36 wimommy got it! just had to ask! :D 20:36 rangi you could add an enhancement request at bugs.koha-community.org 20:36 wizzyrea yea, it might be a cool feature :) 20:36 wimommy I thought of that! Thanks! 20:36 rangi given a list of biblionumbers, cancel all holds 20:37 rangi I think ppl would use it 20:37 wizzyrea bib#'s, barcodes 20:37 wimommy oh no, what did I start! :) 20:37 wizzyrea it's always what happens when ppl have good ideas :) 20:37 rangi well nothing yet 20:37 rangi if u file a bug 20:37 rangi u will have :) 20:37 wizzyrea ^^ what he said 20:38 rangi otherwise this will scroll out of our brains :) 20:38 wizzyrea or hell, if you're at the end of the school year, you probably want to cancel *all* holds 20:38 wizzyrea it's the HOLD NUKE button! 20:38 wizzyrea oh oh no wait 20:39 wimommy Wizzyrea, are you from Kansas? I think we talked at KudoCon in Madison. 20:39 wizzyrea cancel all holds and notify the patron via email! 20:39 wizzyrea I am :) 20:39 rangi I think a list is safer 20:39 rangi that list can be all of course 20:39 rangi which u get from a report 20:40 wimommy yeah! Thanks for your help. Great visiting with you then. 20:40 rangi it could do a couple things 20:40 rangi nuke 20:40 rangi or suspend 20:40 wizzyrea ya thanks for popping in :) 20:40 wizzyrea do file a bug, it seems like what you want might be useful 20:41 wimommy Couldn't find it on the manual so came in here and asked! Thanks for your help everybody! End of the day, the rain is pouring, and it's time to go home! 20:42 wizzyrea wimommy: before you go... which institution are you from? 20:42 wizzyrea (to help me remember you) 20:42 wimommy D.C. Everest, central Wisconsin (Wausau area) 20:42 wizzyrea Aha! yes, now I remember :) 20:43 rangi ok I best get walking 20:43 rangi back later 20:43 wimommy night everyone - hope to pop in here again! 20:43 wizzyrea thanks :) 20:43 wizzyrea later! 20:51 cait night all 21:02 Space_Librarian morning #koha 21:02 slef evening:) 21:09 wizzyrea mornin Space_Librarian 21:11 rhcl afternoon 21:12 talljoy good day 21:31 wizzyrea bbl 22:10 skushner dusk 22:27 rhcl home 22:30 druthb o/ 22:52 pianohacker Good afternoon 22:55 Space_Librarian afternoon pianohacker 22:55 pianohacker Hello, Space_Librarian 23:01 druthb hi, pianohacker and Space_Librarian and Irma. :D 23:01 Space_Librarian hey druthb, Irma :) 23:40 adnc I've changed the barcodes of my book items in the database table items.barcode. if I look into the items in koha i see that they still have the old barcode numbers but when i edit them than they get the new one 23:40 adnc is there a way updating them all in once? 23:44 pianohacker adnc: what version of Koha are you on? 23:44 adnc pianohacker, 3.2 23:45 pianohacker all right, good, we can work with that 23:45 pianohacker So, Koha 3.2 stores item information in two places for every item; a row in the items table and a 952 tag on the marc biblio 23:46 adnc ok 23:46 pianohacker You've changed it in the items table, which affects some things, but not in the marc, which affects others 23:46 pianohacker fortunately, there's a way to get them back in sync 23:46 adnc cool 23:46 pianohacker Lemme find it real quick 23:49 adnc sure 23:51 pianohacker Okay. If you run misc/maintenance/sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl --run-update, with KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB as normal, then the marc biblio will be brought back in sync, and all shall be well 23:57 adnc pianohacker, that did something 23:57 pianohacker The right something? 23:58 pianohacker adnc: If you're worried, you can post the output to http://paste.koha-community.org/ 23:59 pastebot Someone at 77.20.244.49 pasted "kutup: ... processed 100 recor" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/43 23:59 adnc thats mine 23:59 adnc pianohacker, I'm just checking if everything is ok