Time Nick Message 22:23 druthb :D :D 22:23 * Space_Librarian waves back 22:22 * druthb waves to Space_Librarian 21:50 indradg hi... is the holiday calender need to filled in, in a certain order to have them being listed in date-wise order in the list of "Unique Holidays" ? 21:30 jcamins Good night, #koha 21:29 cait time to sleep here 21:29 cait good luck with the paper 21:26 jcamins On that horrifying note, I think it's time to work on my paper. 21:21 jcamins I think I'll end up taking the 4am train, though. 21:21 wizzy_home d'oh 21:21 jcamins And it's on the wrong day. 21:21 jcamins rangi: there is only one. 21:20 rangi :-) 21:20 rangi id take the train 21:20 rangi having driven in NJ 21:19 jcamins I agree. 21:19 wizzy_home hm neither prospect seems appealing 21:19 jcamins To get somewhere an hour away at 9. 21:19 jcamins Or catch a 4am train. 21:19 jcamins Just in case you were unclear on that. 21:18 jcamins This is absurd. 21:17 wizzy_home hrm 21:17 jcamins I may end up forced to rent a car to get there. 21:16 jcamins I want to get to a rather remote part of New Jersey. 21:14 wizzy_home ha 21:14 * jcamins mutters imprecations at the American obsession with having your own car. 21:10 rangi cool 21:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5449 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED , JSON malformed in Koha - Blocker with jQuery 1.4.x 21:10 jenkins_koha Julian Maurice: Bug 5449: JSON malformed in Koha - Blocker with jQuery 1.4.x 21:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #243: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/243/ 20:39 * druthb waves back. 20:38 * jcamins waves to druthb, very belatedly 20:34 cait cool 20:32 adnc_ the warning is gone now, thanks 20:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_5449' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9573f444fcd6f56b2c9248d6bc8d52525a62d518> 20:32 adnc_ cait, super, jetzt müsste ich es noch probieren 20:30 cait night magnuse :) 20:30 rangi cya magnus_away 20:30 magnuse g'night #koha 20:29 cait unter werkzeuge > benachrichtigungen kannst du die anlegen, die beispielbenachrichtigung heisst ODUE 20:28 cait adnc_ musst noch eine benachrichtigung auswählen 20:28 jenkins_koha Starting build 243 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:28 adnc_ Es wurde eine Verzögerung von delay1 für Benutzertyp Personal der Bibliothek eingestellt, aber keine schriftliche Benachrichtigung oder Sperraktion festgelegt. Wenn eine Verzögerung eingestellt ist, sollte entweder eine Benachrichtigung, eine Sperraktion oder beides festgelegt werden. 20:28 cait du kannst die Beanchrichtigungen unter Benachrichtigungen konfigurieren, unterschiedliche für die 1., 2. und 3. Benachrichtigung, wichtig ist nur, dass du dort Modul Ausleihe nimmst 20:27 cait genau 20:26 cait geanu 20:26 cait adnc: mahntrigger in der deutschen übersetzung, dort nicht bei Standard eintragen, Standard frei lassen - und bei deiner angelegten bibliothek regeln eintragen 20:26 adnc_ cait, mahntrigger? 20:26 jcamins Sorry, I always get those two confused. 20:26 jcamins Wait, no, Tools->Overdue notice/status triggers 20:26 cait avoid the default library, set rules for your specific library 20:25 jcamins Tools->Notices. 20:25 cait adnc_ go to tools > notice triggers 20:25 adnc_ where are they? I think I did 20:25 rangi havent even 20:25 rangi means you have set up overdue rules 20:25 jcamins adnc_: yes, that's because you don't have overdue triggers set up. 20:25 adnc_ does someone know what the problem could be? 20:24 adnc_ i'm getting a warning from the koha daily cronjobs: kutuphane: No branches with active overduerules at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl line 296. 20:24 jcamins rangi++ 20:24 jcamins :) 20:24 rangi we'll soon find out 20:23 jcamins But I was only using 1.3.whatever-comes-with-Koha and 1.4.whatever-comes-with-Debian. 20:23 jcamins Well, in my testing it didn't cause any errors. 20:22 rangi but if its causing no errors for owen, ill meerge it 20:21 rangi ah yes i was/and still am waiting for more information on it 20:20 rangi hmm i never put a comment on the bug, i suspect i just switched the wrong status 20:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5449 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED , JSON malformed in Koha - Blocker with jQuery 1.4.x 20:13 cait bug 5449 20:12 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 20:12 jcamins @later tell rangi Bug 5449 was never merged into Master. I reset the patch status to "Signed off," because I wasn't sure what else to do with it. The patch still merges cleanly. 20:11 cait hi adnc_ 20:10 adnc_ cait, hallo! 19:59 slef wizzy_home: yeah. naw. 19:59 wizzy_home or get up reeeallly early 19:59 slef [off] medication makes sleep unpredictable... 19:59 slef I probably will be. Unless I pass out first. 19:59 jcamins I don't think I'll be there. 19:59 jcamins slef: you're welcome. 19:59 slef 0300 local :-/ 19:58 slef jcamins: thanks. :) 19:58 wizzy_home :D 19:58 jcamins :) 19:58 magnuse hehe, that quote pops into my head every now and then ;-) 19:58 wizzy_home honesty, I like it ;) 19:57 jcamins True. 19:57 wizzy_home that's pretty much what it's about 19:57 wizzy_home agreed, it's slightly disturbing, but think about rugby for a mo, and it's like, well yea 19:57 * jcamins reads from the topic 19:57 jcamins 11 May 2011 0200 UTC+0 19:57 slef OT: when's the next general meeting? 19:57 jcamins That's slightly disturbing, but very cute. 19:56 wizzy_home "run! run! run! Fall down! Kick in the face!!" 19:56 jcamins Aww. 19:56 wizzy_home when watching rugby, that's spud's cheer 19:56 jcamins What? 19:56 wizzy_home he's still on about that 19:56 wizzy_home hehe yea 19:56 magnuse what was that quote again? run run run fall down kick in the face? 19:56 magnuse hehe cool spud 19:51 wizzy_home not all together of course 19:51 wizzy_home spud was in heaven... they had canteloupe and ham. and cheesecake. And green beans. 19:50 wizzy_home we went to a brunchy place, with fancy brunchy food. 19:50 jcamins _So_ good. 19:50 jcamins We just went to an Indian restaurant for brunch. 19:50 wizzy_home nom no m onm nom nom indianfood nom nom nom 19:49 wizzy_home i'm reminded that I ought to make naan 19:49 jcamins Or, I suppose, it should be more work to stretch it, but it'll hold its shape better. 19:49 jcamins Right. 19:48 wizzy_home more stretchy :) 19:48 jcamins Backwards. 19:48 wizzy_home or is my thinking backwards 19:48 wizzy_home so, not as stretchy (less gluten?) 19:47 jcamins wizzy_home: yeah, it's finely ground, and higher protein content than other wheat. 19:46 * slef notes he has nfc where stavanger is 19:46 wizzy_home i am not sure, i had to ask mr. google 19:46 slef I've malted grain flour... is that the same? 19:46 wizzy_home that's a lot of roti :P 19:46 wizzy_home hmm, wheat and malted barley flour eh? 19:45 slef mmm chappatis 19:44 wizzy_home oho 19:44 magnuse chappatis, by the sound of it... 19:40 jcamins I don't know. 19:40 wizzy_home what are you planning on making? 19:40 wizzy_home ooo 19:40 jcamins Yup. Among other things, I just bought 20 pounds of chapatti flour. :) 19:40 wizzy_home much much too early 19:40 wizzy_home *nod 19:40 cait weekend is over too early 19:39 wizzy_home that explains the tickle in my ear 19:39 wizzy_home oh yea? 19:39 jcamins wizzy_home: I was just thinking about you, actually. 19:39 wizzy_home how is everyone? 19:38 cait hi wizzy :) 19:38 wizzy_home hello :) 19:38 magnuse hiya wizzy_home 19:38 magnuse yep, i'm in stavanger tonight, and travelling half an hour by train tomorrow morning, for two days of koha training 19:37 hdl hi cait 19:36 cait travelling? 19:29 magnuse gotta get up at 6 tomorrow - not used to that... 19:21 magnuse nah, going to sleep soon 19:20 cait waking up?;) 19:20 cait hi magnus 19:12 magnuse kia ora 19:08 cait evening hdl 19:07 cait yum 19:07 cait salmon and green salad 19:00 jcamins But then, perhaps a larger one would do better. 18:57 jcamins A 5 gallon bucket ought to do pretty well. 18:56 jcamins Exactly. 18:56 cait2 keep it save from the bugs 18:56 cait2 yes 18:52 jcamins Now I need a container large enough for storing all purpose flour. 18:51 cait aha! 18:50 jcamins That was supposed to be a diplomatic way of cheering about the fact that I just got 20 pounds of chapatti flour. :) 18:50 cait killing the 1 18:50 cait1 oh 18:50 jcamins cait1: no, just commenting. 18:50 cait1 is that surprising? 18:43 jcamins It turns out that 20 pounds of chapatti flour is just as heavy as 20 pounds of whole wheat flour. :) 15:52 jcamins Brunch time! Hip hooray for brunch time! Everybody stop at brunch time! 13:32 freebe I can look at it a little more and report to you if I think I find the cause 13:31 freebe thanks for all your help 13:31 freebe no problem 13:31 jcamins I'm out of ideas, sorry. 13:30 jcamins Hm. 13:29 freebe The import worked rightly as I was able to circulate it 13:29 jcamins Hm. 13:29 freebe I imported it via a Z39.50 search 13:28 jcamins And how are you importing? 13:28 freebe /cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=1 13:27 freebe I deleted it at 13:27 freebe /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl 13:27 freebe I see it at 13:27 jcamins Also, how did you delete the records? 13:26 jcamins freebe: where are you seeing this? 13:25 freebe So maybe it is not an index update problem? 13:25 freebe Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/demo/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2096. 13:25 freebe clicking 'Edit' shows 13:25 freebe and the Koha admin offers Edit besides the create option 13:24 freebe and imported again 13:24 freebe run rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z 13:24 freebe I have deleted all records 13:24 freebe Just for your information 13:22 jcamins Right. 13:20 freebe or increase the cron frequency 13:20 freebe and telling them not trying to import the same record just after deleting it 13:19 freebe yes, I think so 13:18 jcamins freebe: I guess what I'm wondering is, if this error is specific to your unusual workflow of adding a record, immediately deleting it, then trying to edit the record, couldn't you just tell your librarians "don't try to edit records immediately after deleting them"? 13:17 freebe being my mistake or Koha one 13:17 freebe I want to know how to get rig of that error 13:16 jcamins freebe: what is it exactly that you want to do? 13:16 freebe testing again 13:15 freebe done 13:11 cait after that it should have disappeared 13:11 cait delete - run cronjob 13:10 freebe ok, thanks 13:10 jcamins freebe: I'm not sure what the problem is, but I suspect it's in your workflow. 13:10 freebe previously to that Koha admin operation 13:10 freebe but I run it by hand 13:10 freebe 5 minutes via cron 13:09 jcamins How often is that running? 13:09 freebe isn't it? 13:09 freebe I thought the index was already updated with rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z 13:09 jcamins I guess I'm not entirely sure what the issue here is. It will show up until the cronjob runs. 13:09 cait it will not offer it any longer, once the index has been updated 13:08 freebe I think Koha admin should not me offer to edit it if it does not exist 13:08 freebe yes 13:08 jcamins If you've deleted the record, you can't edit it. 13:07 jcamins Oh, of course. 13:07 freebe If I choose to edit the record (which does not exits as it was deleted) then I get the above Error in the Koha admin web interface 13:07 jcamins freebe: okay, in that case it's a corrupted record. 13:07 freebe I get that error as Koha offers me to choose between Edit the record or add a new one 13:06 freebe When importing the same record 13:06 freebe Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/demo/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2096. 13:06 freebe jcamins, Note that even now, with the Zebra index right, I get 12:55 freebe thanks 12:55 freebe I see 12:55 jcamins freebe: no, it probably won't now that you've gotten your index initialized properly. 12:55 freebe thanks 12:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Refactor rebuild_zebra.pl into a library 12:54 jcamins It's part of bug 5166. 12:54 freebe I am going to repeat the test to see if that lack of synchronisation happens again 12:54 freebe Can you let me know the bug number 12:54 jcamins I don't think so. 12:54 cait does it still need sign-off? 12:54 jcamins tcohen++ 12:54 jcamins It's a very major bug, in my opinion. 12:54 jcamins tcohen wrote a fix for this. 12:53 jcamins Yes. 12:53 freebe ? 12:53 freebe jcamins, I think I had something in zebraqueue that was pointing to an invalid record because I deleted a record which I was circulation and maybe Zebra was not able to sync properly 12:52 cait jcamins++ 12:52 jcamins And you had something in zebraqueue that was pointing to an invalid record. 12:52 freebe thanks 12:52 freebe I see 12:52 jcamins Your index wasn't properly initialized. 12:52 freebe What do you think it was the cause of that? 12:51 jcamins You're welcome. 12:51 jcamins I had a feeling. 12:51 freebe thanks 12:51 jcamins Yeah. 12:51 freebe and now also with -z 12:51 freebe It works with -r 12:51 freebe trying 12:51 jcamins -r 12:51 jcamins Not -z. 12:50 freebe Same error 12:50 freebe Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at C4/Biblio.pm line 359. 12:50 freebe /usr/share/koha/lib$ /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z 12:49 freebe trying 12:48 jcamins Try manually running rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r 12:48 jcamins Okay. I think the problem is that there's a typo in KOHA_CONF or something like that. 12:48 freebe and so on 12:48 freebe Circulation works 12:48 freebe yes 12:47 jcamins Okay. Did you go through the web installer? 12:47 freebe It is a clean and new install 12:47 freebe No, it is not an upgrade 12:47 freebe I think that can be the problem, let me add one record 12:47 jcamins Is this an upgrade? 12:47 freebe yep 12:47 jcamins freebe: you do have data in the database, right? 12:47 jcamins Maybe KOHA_CONF isn't set? 12:47 jcamins freebe: check your environment? 12:46 freebe jcamins, ok 12:46 freebe cait, It happens when the Koha cronjob execute /usr/share/demo/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z 12:46 jcamins It's very, very dangerous. 12:45 jcamins freebe: no, if you haven't used it before, don't! 12:45 freebe jcamins, let me look for it 12:45 cait happens when you try to take a look at a record? 12:45 jcamins freebe: do you use link_authorities_to_bibs.pl? 12:45 cait probably an indexing problem 12:44 jcamins Oh, okay. Well, I'm glad I checked that, because I was going to tell you 3.0.0 was very old. ;) 12:44 freebe :) 12:44 cait more likely ;) 12:44 freebe 3.4.0 12:44 jcamins Ummm... there's no such thing. 12:44 freebe Koha 4.0.0 12:44 jcamins freebe: what version of Koha? 12:43 freebe Any hint? 12:43 freebe Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at C4/Biblio.pm line 359. 12:43 freebe /usr/share/demo/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z 12:43 freebe I am getting the below error on a Koha 4.0.0 installation 12:41 jcamins If I run rebuild_zebra without -z or -r, it won't take down the index, right? 12:39 indradg druthb, thanks 12:24 druthb The couple of times I've run into it, they set the expiration for 60 months; that lets them check up on the borrower address every five years. 12:24 indradg hi.. if I've life members who's only criteria is they must be over 18 years of age, what do most people do with the enrollment period? 11:45 druthb good morning, jcamins. :) 11:45 cait hi jcamins :) 11:44 * jcamins waves 11:44 * cait waves 11:38 * Oak waves 10:53 druthb o/ 08:33 cait hope it helps :) 08:28 indradg cait, ah thanks a bunch :) i kind of vaguely remembered this post... thanks for the link :) 08:26 indradg checking! 08:21 cait perhaps this helps: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-display-search-result-problem-p28106148.html 08:18 indradg and I'm fine with that.. so I'm looking for where to do that work :) 08:17 cait you have to modify koha manually to make it work 08:17 cait and you can't select ICU with the web installer 08:17 indradg http://kete.net.nz/documentation/topics/show/139-managing-zebra particularly Ahmad Maher's description of problems with arabic with truncation 08:17 cait indradg: I think it will not work without icu for you - it doesn't work for hebrew witout 08:16 indradg i vaguely remember that one needs to do something to tweak it for other languages... and came up with some mails from kete forum 08:15 indradg what i meant was this option from the koha installer - "Primary language for Zebra indexing (en, fr) [en] " 08:15 indradg cait, oops! didn't phrase that correctly! mea culpa 08:13 cait ? 08:13 cait you already use icuß 08:12 indradg cait, thanks... i need to index several indic languages - bengali, hindi and assamese in my catalog... does zebra play funky without proper ICU settings? 08:10 cait indradg: I am not an expert, but ask your question - perhaps someone will read and respond 08:04 indradg hi... any zebra experts around? 08:04 scl hi... any zebra experts around? 07:57 rangi cool thanks 07:57 cait have to do some other paperwork first 07:57 cait hope to look at your notices thing later - planning to at least 07:57 cait very cool 07:56 cait the libravatar feature? yes :) 07:53 rangi cait: did you see this? http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=4038 07:15 cait hi rangi :) 07:11 rangi heya cait 05:45 cait morning #koha 02:47 rangi only one way to find out :) 02:46 snail rangi: yes, but is he still alive because he's a human and the book allowed him to survive the zombies, or because he's a zombie and the book spread useful (to him) misinformation among the humans? 02:18 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=4038 02:18 rangi screenshot of the day 01:56 snail Kei te pai tÅ rÄ, e hoa. 01:40 druthb Capt. Midnight's fur is short enough that it's not too big a problem. And it's *solid* black. 01:40 jcamins_away Somewhere underneath all the hair, though, there's black. 01:40 jcamins_away Well, mostly just stray hairs. 01:40 jcamins_away Yes. 01:39 druthb ? 01:39 druthb and stray hairs, right 01:39 jcamins_away Naturally I'm wearing black, black, and black. 01:38 jcamins_away Today is the day when Myshkin's winter coat comes out all at once. 01:20 Brooke I pÄ“hea tÅ rÄ? 01:19 Brooke :D 01:19 snail Brooke: mÅrena Brooke 01:08 Brooke kia ora 00:34 jcamins_away (that would be SFX "why no, my output isn't determinate, why would I tell you the same thing twice, when I can give you *different* wrong information every time?" and Ebrary "you don't need to see any page other than this one, right? good, I think I'll freeze now") 00:33 jcamins_away And SFX and Ebrary irritate me no end. 00:33 jcamins_away druthb: doing research. 00:27 druthb whazzup, jcamins_away? 00:23 jcamins_away elsevier-- 00:23 jcamins_away Who else has abusive closed information infrastructures? 00:23 jcamins_away ebrary-- 00:23 jcamins_away sfx--