Time  Nick              Message
00:43 jenkins_koha      Starting build 241 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:44 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6031 : Fix for syntax (bashism crept into a pure sh script) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae70c2f79007e224510d13eb52e6a392c60e25a6>
00:53 rangi             hi pianohacker
01:25 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #241: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/241/
01:25 jenkins_koha      Chris Cormack: Bug 6031 : Fix for syntax (bashism crept into a pure sh script)
01:25 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6031 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , koha-rebuild-zebra doesn't allow XML and verbose indexing
02:15 glernil           good day!
02:15 glernil           is koha capable of generating a printable card catalog? just like this one... >>>http://library.sanbeda.edu.ph/athcgi/athweb.pl?a=c&ci=CL&pg=7&st=vis&in=4&fr=1&lr=1625&li=96550420&nh=1625&kw=Newly%20Acquired%20Books&k1=Newly%20Acquired%20Books&k2=&k3=&o1=1&o2=1&l1=1&l2=1&l3=1&ti=000049466&of=&loc=&fmt=&vrss=Quick+Search&vrps=-1&jw=
03:09 rangi             glernil: like this ? http://www.library.org.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-ISBDdetail.pl?biblionumber=474
03:09 rangi             yes the ISBD view does that, and is fully customisable from system preferences
03:11 glernil           can I adjust the indentations and spaces? what I really like it to produce is the one I posted. I think it is an athena library system...
03:12 rangi             yes, like i said its fully customisable
03:12 rangi             just edit the ISBD system preference
03:20 AmitG             heya chris
03:21 rangi             hiya AmitG
03:26 glernil           rangi: Thanks!... I'll check it out ;)
03:38 mtj               an interesting news day...
03:54 AmitG             heya mtj
04:01 mtj               yo amit
04:23 druthb            o/
04:23 druthb            @seen sekjal
04:23 huginn            druthb: sekjal was last seen in #koha 3 days, 6 hours, 54 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <sekjal> goodnight, #koha
04:24 druthb            timely.  Hi, Ian.
04:24 * bg              hint-hinted him
04:24 druthb            hehehe
04:25 rangi             heh
04:26 ibeardslee        hmmm?
04:26 rangi             ibeardslee: sekjal is an ian too
04:26 ibeardslee        ahhh
04:27 sekjal            good <localtime>, all
04:31 Space_Librarian   hey sekjal
04:32 sekjal            hi, Space_Librarian
04:34 rangi             hows the hotel?
04:58 sekjal            it's good (wow, long delay on that, sorry)
04:59 sekjal            I'm just about ready to turn in.  got to up and moving in 6 hours
05:00 rangi             ahh sleep well, im about to head home myself
05:02 sekjal            thanks.  I'm hoping to be on, however distractedly, during the presentations tomorrow
06:02 Oak               \o
06:28 alex_a            hello #koha
06:38 magnuse           kia ora #koha
06:57 magnuse           bonjour biblibre
07:29 francharb         hello all
07:29 hdl               hi
07:29 wahanui           hi, hdl
07:31 AmitG             heya wahanui
07:59 rangi             marcelr++ #fixing noisy warns
08:09 huginn            New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6290] Fixing uninitialized warnings on homebranch in XSLT.pm <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6290>
08:32 rangi             hotel_wifi--
08:38 magnuse           :-(
08:40 rangi             not mine, brendans
08:40 magnuse           yup, thought so
08:41 AmitG             heya magnuse
08:49 magnuse           hi AmitG
08:52 magnuse           i have a library asking about what type of barcode they should order to use with koha - isn't that more a question related to the barcode scanner they will use than to koha?
08:56 alex_a            ;)
11:22 newa34            helo
11:22 newa34            i am having error msg while listing the patron
11:22 newa34            Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/members/member.pl line 113
11:22 newa34            anyone here to help me?
11:24 magnuse           newa34, not sure i can help, but which version are you on?
11:27 newa34                3.02
11:28 newa34            V3.0202
11:29 newa34            while listing the patron pagination 1,2,3 works but when i move to 4 pagination it gives this error msg and on next 5 th page is is ok again
11:31 magnuse           wow, that sounds strange
11:33 newa34            yea
11:33 magnuse           how do you get the list? search or "browse by last name"?
11:34 newa34            browse by last name
11:34 newa34            i have nearly 86 patron listen with first surname letter "S"
11:34 newa34            listed*
11:34 magnuse           and does the same thing happen for all the letters you can click on, or just one?
11:35 newa34            jst one
11:35 newa34            ok wait i jst got error msg with 'O' also same
11:35 newa34            i will check if i have patron with surname starting with O or not
11:35 newa34            in database
11:38 newa34            oops it my fault
11:38 newa34            sorry
11:39 newa34            i just had catagorycode wrongly placed for some patron data
11:40 newa34            anyway thax magnuse for your time...
11:40 magnuse           no problem!
11:41 newa34            magnuse have u configure koha as z3950 server?
11:41 magnuse           yup
11:41 newa34            which step did u followed?
11:43 magnuse           newa34: this http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x15269#publicztarget plus there is one more thing you have to do
11:43 magnuse           let me check
11:43 newa34            <!-- public server runs on tcp --> <listen id="biblioserver" >tcp:@:9999</listen> i uncomment this line but it was not working
11:44 newa34            then i removed<!-- BIBLIOGRAPHIC RECORDS --> <server id="biblioserver" listenref="biblioserver"> to <!-- BIBLIOGRAPHIC RECORDS --> <server id="biblioserver">
11:44 newa34            now it working bt i am not sure of it is good pratice or not
11:45 magnuse           there is a bug for what i'm thinking about here:
11:45 magnuse           bug 5667
11:45 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5667 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , koha-conf.xml missing entry for z39.50 publicserver
11:45 magnuse           "the BIBLIOGRAPHIC RECORDS <server> tag must be copied and given a new id of 'publicserver'"
11:51 conan             hello everybody
11:51 newa34            many thax magnuse again... i did played with it in my own way bt not sure wht i did ... now i found the exact solution,.....
11:57 jcamins           eythian++ # for the libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl package
11:58 jcamins           Good morning, #koha
11:59 AmitG             heya jcamins
11:59 jcamins           AmitG: how are you?
11:59 newa34            tc
11:59 newa34            exit
11:59 newa34            sorry
12:20 oleonard          Hi #koha
12:21 jcamins           Good morning.
12:22 oleonard          No KudosCon for you jcamins?
12:22 jcamins           oleonard: nope. :(
12:22 oleonard          Nor I
12:23 jcamins           I decided not to go, because I have so much traveling coming up, but now I find I'm a bit jealous of larryb, druthb, bg, and sekjal. ;)
12:27 nengard           Nor I
12:27 nengard           and not really terribly jealous either :)
12:27 oleonard          What I'm sorry about is that I'll miss seeing everybody in person.
12:28 nengard           yes, that's true
12:28 nengard           I do miss that
12:29 * jcamins         still hasn't met anyone in person.
12:30 nengard           that's not true :)
12:30 nengard           you met me and sekjal and druthb and bg
12:30 nengard           and NateC
12:30 jcamins           Yes, that's true.
12:31 nengard           and in june you get to meet rangi
12:31 nengard           and probably others who will be at ALA
12:31 jcamins           And gmcharlt, and probably lots of other people who go to ALA.
13:30 * jcamins         prominently displays a roll of duct tape for bg's use.
13:31 bg                thanks - weird wireless passwords here
13:31 bg                took too long to log in ;)
13:45 druthb            o/
13:46 oleonard          Hi sekjal and druthb
13:46 tcohen            hi oleonard
13:50 * druthb          waves over her shoulder at rhcl_kudos.
13:51 rhcl_kudos        hey hey
13:51 nengard           someone at kudos has to get the pictures of druthb making a funny face ... since i'm not there to get it :)
13:52 gmcharlt          for those who want to follow the KUDOS conference, twitter tags are #kudos11 #kohails
13:52 jcamins           nengard: why is druthb making funny faces?
13:52 nengard           she always makes at least one that i catch on camera :)
13:52 gmcharlt          jcamins: it's how she rolls; you should know that by now ;)
13:53 jcamins           Ah. I didn't realize the funny faces in January weren't just a fluke. ;)
13:53 nengard           :)
13:56 oleonard          The Cover-it-live widget on kudos.koha-community.org is strangely inert
13:57 gmcharlt          yeah, not sure what's up with that
14:02 sekjal            hi, oleonard (whoa, forgot to hit enter, sorry)
14:03 * druthb          hides.
14:04 * druthb          makes a funny face at gmcharlt, since he doesn't have a camera in his hand.
14:04 gmcharlt          druthb: are you sure about that?
14:05 * druthb          stops being so sure.
14:05 bg                heya henryb
14:07 bg                wizzyrea++
14:08 druthb            wizzyrea++  #cheerleading
14:09 bg                hmmm  has there been a link or slide shown about the IRC channel yet?
14:09 bg                could be good to get a few more attendees on IRC
14:11 gmcharlt          bg: I've tweeted about the channel
14:18 rhcl_kudos        whoami
14:19 bg                @whoami
14:19 huginn            bg: I don't recognize you.
14:19 bg                :)
14:20 rhcl2             :)
14:21 rhcl_kudos        ok, got rid of rhcl2
14:22 jcamins           rhcl_kudos: oh no! We liked having two of you!
14:23 bg                it was more like rhcl to the power ;)
14:23 bg                of 2
14:24 * gmcharlt        is just sorry we didn't get to see rhcl2 and rhcl_kudos argue
14:24 gmcharlt          those make for interesting debates ;)
14:25 rhcl_kudos        somebody needs to show me how to tweet at break
14:25 gmcharlt          rhcl_kudos: happy to
14:25 bg                I think first sign_up for an account at twitter.com and then gmcharlt can show you from there
14:26 bg                at least that way you'll be ready to start ;)
14:26 rhcl_kudos        it's like a dog chasing a car...wouldn't know what to do with it if he caught it
14:26 rhcl_kudos        I have the account...
14:28 bg                sweet then you're ready :)
14:28 gmcharlt          rhcl_kudos: what's your account name?
14:29 rhcl_kudos        huh, I don't know, does "whoami" work there?
14:30 nengard           what is whoami?
14:30 bg                it does - you just need that @ infront
14:30 bg                @whoami
14:30 huginn            bg: I don't recognize you.
14:30 rhcl_kudos        GLaws1
14:30 bg                I'm just not /registered here
14:30 rhcl_kudos        no, not here, there
14:31 rhcl_kudos        twitter there
14:32 oleonard          @whoami
14:32 huginn            oleonard: I don't recognize you.
14:33 oleonard          :P
14:38 conan             question: how do you add fields to be controlled by authorities given auth_types.authtypecode is a primary key?
14:39 jcamins           Set it in your framework.
14:39 conan             I already have:
14:39 conan             select * from auth_types where authtypecode = 'PERSO_NAME';
14:39 conan             PERSO_NAME   | Personal Name | 100                | Personal Names
14:39 conan             and I want also fields 600 and 700
14:39 conan             how do I add those?
14:40 jcamins           Set it in your framework?
14:40 jcamins           That's how I did it.
14:40 conan             should I put a comma separated list under auth_tag_to_report ?
14:40 conan             jcamins: hum... which part? I kind of lost here
14:40 jcamins           conan: I think we must be talking about different things.
14:40 conan             If I go to authority types I can only define one there
14:40 jcamins           I just use the framework editor. No SQL involved.
14:41 conan             jcamins: same here, but I needed to check DB because I couldn't find it
14:41 conan             are you telling me you set that here: Home › Administration › MARC Frameworks ?
14:41 jcamins           Yeah.
14:42 conan             but I don't see authorities there, just authorised_values
14:42 jcamins           Right below Authorized value.
14:42 jcamins           In English it's labeled "Thesaurus."
14:43 jcamins           (but I think possibly you're using a Spanish translation?)
14:43 conan             nope, english here for testing
14:44 jcamins           Oh, excellent, you'll see the same thing I do, then. Thesaurus.
14:44 conan             where?
14:44 conan             I'm here:
14:44 jcamins           In the MARC Bibliographic Frameworks.
14:44 conan             Home › Administration › MARC Frameworks › Libros (LIBR) › Modify tag 100
14:45 jcamins           Edit subfields.
14:45 conan             nope
14:45 jcamins           Okay, go back and click "Subfields" instead of "Edit."
14:45 jcamins           Then click Edit subfields.
14:45 jcamins           Then choose subfield a.
14:45 conan             jcamins: I did, and nope
14:46 conan             jcamins: find it!!!!
14:46 conan             I mean, found
14:46 jcamins           Good.
14:47 conan             jcamins: it went to $4 and $a, is that correct?
14:47 conan             for field 100
14:48 jcamins           $4?
14:48 jcamins           conan: are you using UNIMARC?
14:48 conan             nope, marc21
14:49 jcamins           Then you just want to set the thesaurus for $a.
14:49 jcamins           $4 is the relator term.
14:50 conan             wait, I thought it was an automatic thingie, but no, I choose that subfield
14:50 conan             now I wonder if the authority  is used for every subfield or just some of them...
14:50 jcamins           I'm not sure.
14:51 jcamins           I think it's used for any subfield defined in the Authority framework.
14:51 conan             this is madness, I can't go to each subfield of each field I have to modify to change the authority!
14:52 conan             anyway, thank you jcamins , that was a pretty hidden one
14:52 conan             will ask my librarian about the subfields now...
14:52 jcamins           conan: no, you just set the link with subfield a.
14:53 conan             and how do I know that?
14:54 * bg              is not totally crazy about presentations at a conference done over skype
14:54 jcamins           conan: what do you mean?
14:54 bg                understands if someone has visa problems or travel issues
14:54 jcamins           conan: it's probably in the manual, if you wanted to look.
14:55 oleonard          bg: The 10 o'clock is phoning it in?
14:55 conan             jcamins: there are 19 subfields inside field 100, I now know 100$a is the one for this, but I also need to set CORPO_NAME for 110, 610 and 710, and others for other fields
14:55 bg                yeah
14:55 jcamins           conan: subfield a.
14:55 jcamins           Always.
14:55 bg                not a great connection either
14:56 jcamins           There is no authorized heading field that doesn't use subfield a.
14:58 conan             jcamins: great! And checking DB shows me several already configured, maybe I got to do nothing after all
14:59 conan             effectively, they were all already configured
15:17 * cait            waves
15:19 rhcl_kudos        waves2
15:19 druthb            sessions_going_short++
15:20 oleonard          Twenty minutes down from sixty?
15:21 druthb            a-yup
15:25 phxmars_hal       I used "select * from information_schema_columns where table_schema like '%koha%'" to try and get table schema in our Koha, do I have it wrong?
15:26 cait1             hmpf
15:27 gmcharlt          phxmars_hal: select * from information_schema.columns where table_schema like '%koha%'
15:28 gmcharlt          this assumes that the name of the DB for your Koha database contains 'koha', of course
15:28 wizzyrea_away     in koha 3.4 you don't have to go back to the saved report page ^.^
15:28 wizzyrea_away     HAHA
15:28 wizzyrea_away     oh.
15:28 wizzyrea_away     :)
15:29 * cait1           waves to wizzyrea :)
15:29 jcamins           wizzyrea`: hi!
15:29 wizzyrea`         hi :D
15:31 druthb            presenting_without_planning--
15:32 cait1             ok, changing trains soon
15:32 cait1             will be back checking here and twitter later :)
15:33 phxmars_hal       select * from information_schema.columns where table_schema like '%' worked
15:33 gmcharlt          cool
15:37 druthb            I don't know what version of MySQL that Bev is running, but select count(*) from BORROWERS won't work, because the table is called 'borrowers'.
15:39 * druthb          waves to jwagner and Ahmuck_
15:39 jwagner           If druthb turns around, I can wave back :-)
15:40 * druthb          turns around and sees jwagner peering overtop of her glasses.
15:40 Ahmuck_           morning druthb
15:41 * jwagner         warns druthb to behave -- I've been up since 3:30 AM to get here....
15:41 wizzyrea`         that's wicked early
15:41 oleonard          wizzyrea`: How late did you get in?
15:41 jwagner           Yep.  Really should have come in yesterday, but couldn't manage it.
15:41 wizzyrea`         i was finally  in bed by 2am
15:42 wizzyrea`         left chicago at 12:30
15:42 wizzyrea`         that's wicked early jwagner
15:43 jwagner           If you hear any snoring from the back of the room, just ignore it....
16:07 * oleonard        thought Bug 6258 was a simple variable name problem, but apparently not
16:07 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6258 major, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Guided reports wizard 'Build new' brings up empty page
16:34 wizzyrea`         so it looks like they've actually pretty much homebrewed this stuff, end-running around the usual expense of the 3M software
16:34 wizzyrea`         Am I misunderstanding?
16:35 jcamins           What?
16:35 jcamins           Oh, I bet you're talking about the speaker.
16:35 wizzyrea`         yes, that
16:36 wizzyrea`         having a hard time refraining from exclaiming that "if you release it, we can help you"
16:37 pianohacker       What is this presentation? Can't seem to find context in the IRC log
16:37 oleonard          http://kudos.koha-community.org/kudoscon2011/conference-program/
16:38 oleonard          RFID Self-Checkout Using Koha and Invego
16:38 pianohacker       ah, thanks owen
16:43 phxmars_hal       http://bibdigital.epn.edu.ec/handle/15000/2649
17:05 cait              hi all
18:28 huginn            New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6284] Reports Filters Need Prettying <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6284>
18:35 * druthb          needs a lightning talk idea.
18:36 wizzyrea`         you should talk about... um... You should talk about fancy ways to customize "search for this in"
18:37 druthb            @quote get 102
18:37 huginn            druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010)
18:37 gmcharlt          heh
18:37 gmcharlt          although that gives me an idea for you: talk about the culture of #koha
18:38 wizzyrea`         ooh, we can talk about our project cookie
18:38 * jcamins         thinks that's a little unfair, talking about the Koha Cookie when he's not around.
18:38 jcamins           :P
18:38 wizzyrea`         :P
18:38 druthb            gmcharlt--there's already some of that in my preso tomorrow.  dun wanna recycle.
18:47 jcamins           druthb: I sent you a visual aid for your lightning talk. :D
18:48 cait              cookies?
18:48 * cait            perks up
18:48 jcamins           Cat, actually.
18:49 druthb            I see that, jcamins....now, if I had a workable topic.  I got sent one idea, but it requires infrastructure that I don't have ready...
18:51 jcamins           druthb: http://xkcd.com/365/
18:54 rangi             druthb: irc
18:54 jcamins           The importance of chocolate to a well-tuned ILS.
18:55 jcamins           Why one should never follow jcamins' suggestions on a Monday afternoon.
18:56 wizzyrea`         talking about IRC would be good
18:56 wizzyrea`         i'm going to demo search to hold I think
18:56 wizzyrea`         or screencasting
18:56 jcamins           screencasting++
18:56 wizzyrea`         i'll couch it as "help your support staff help you"
18:56 wizzyrea`         ;)
18:57 rangi             druthb: you can show off the bots, and the logs and the fact there are real live people here
18:57 rangi             etc
18:57 cait              :)
18:57 * cait            could wave or ask for cookies
18:57 rangi             convince them to not use mibbit too ;)
18:58 * jcamins         thinks about baking.
18:58 cait              jcamins: can you be a little more specific?
18:59 jcamins           cait: I didn't decide until after I'd looked to see what sorts of ingredients I had. However, I'll be making chocolate bread.
18:59 cait              chocolate bread!
19:00 jcamins           Yes.
19:00 druthb            rangi, wizzyrea` is sitting next to me twisting my arm.  does it bother you that her saying so is more-convincing?
19:00 rhcl_kudos        what's unbaked about mibbit?
19:01 * druthb          is going to talk about mibbit--but will point at a fairly-okay way to do it, if one must.
19:01 rhcl_kudos        hey, it works w FF on Linux, there
19:01 jcamins           cait: http://www.npr.org/2011/03/21/18183909/say-it-with-chocolate-bread or www.scharffenberger.com/re0003.asp
19:01 rhcl_kudos        s a lot of crappy apps out there that dont
19:01 rangi             hehe
19:02 cait              jcamins: thx for the links :)
19:03 jcamins           cait: you're welcome.
19:03 jcamins           Doesn't it sound delicious?
19:04 cait              it does
19:05 cait              never heard about chocolate bread before
19:07 oleonard          Sounds like KudosCon doesn't have a high percentage of presenters who are thinking in Open Source.
19:08 bg                oleonard feels that way sitting here
19:08 cait              hm?
19:09 rhcl_kudos        looking around, I think I have the only laptop in the room running a free OS (Ubuntu)
19:09 oleonard          https://twitter.com/#!/gmcharlt/status/65130147510099968
19:10 gmcharlt          oleonard: that's via rangi, btw
19:10 gmcharlt          or, rather, the tweet I made immediately following that one is
19:10 bg                rhcl_kudos++
19:10 rangi             heh
19:11 rangi             rhcl_kudos++
19:11 wizzyrea`         bbinasec
19:11 sekjal            rhcl_kudos: it's always amusing how many Macs you see in a room full of open source folks...
19:11 * sekjal          types from his MacBook Air
19:12 rangi             sekjal: you never seen that in a room full of free software folks tho :)
19:12 * gmcharlt        hangs head in shame, but only so far - dagnabbit, there's no reason why OSS can't have better UI design
19:12 rangi             maybe if the ppl who used macs, gave some of that money to designers?? :-)
19:13 * rangi           teases
19:13 cait              hehe
19:13 sekjal            I got away from the iPhone... one step at time
19:13 rangi             i mean, if child labour can make pretty graphics, maybe thats all we need :P
19:13 rhcl_kudos        off subject, but my tech assistant, a brilliant but time-challenged young man...
19:13 * rangi           chains the kids up
19:13 * jcamins         isn't a zealot. He was F/OSS-only for eleven years, but the Mac looked like it would meet his needs better. It does.
19:13 rangi             :)
19:13 oleonard          Mac users can pay a "guilt tax" to the Gnome project
19:14 * bg              loves that hardware :)
19:14 sekjal            when I can build my own laptop as light and with as good of battery life as this, I will in a heartbeat
19:14 rhcl_kudos        is doing some excellent work making a children's computer with a very mac-like interface on Mint 10
19:14 bg                ah that's cool
19:14 rangi             ahh pragmatism vs freedom, the age old dilemna
19:14 rangi             ill stick with freedom thanks :)
19:15 rangi             i know i wont convince most of you, so ill stop prodding
19:15 rhcl_kudos        I think there are several complementary apps that would work well bundled w/ Koha--Libki, a children's computer station, and a self-checkout station.
19:16 gmcharlt          rangi: considering that every single computer, running F/OSS or not, depends on minerals mined under bad conditions, nobody has completely clean hands
19:16 rangi             gmcharlt: true
19:16 rhcl_kudos        apt-get install koha && libki && kidstation
19:16 gmcharlt          rhcl_kudos: indeed
19:16 rangi             doesnt mean we shouldnt try to minimise the harm we create though does it?
19:16 rangi             anyway, i said ill leave it, so i will
19:16 oleonard          I built a laptop out of hemp, used plastic bags, and a sense of smug self-satisfaction ;)
19:17 * gmcharlt        sends some free kittens to #koha
19:18 rangi             @quote search kittens
19:18 huginn            rangi: 1 found: #91: "<chris> Free as in kittens is a silly phrase..."
19:18 rangi             @quote get 91
19:18 huginn            rangi: Quote #91: "<chris> Free as in kittens is a silly phrase that should die, if FOSS is free as in kittens, proprietary software is free as in an inbred purebreed cat. That costs thousands of dollars in vet bills every year and is slightly retarded." (added by wizzyrea at 08:42 PM, August 19, 2010)
19:18 wahanui           i already had it that way, huginn.
19:18 rangi             ok, time to make the kids breakfast
19:18 rhcl_kudos        Yea, we got some free Awe stations.
19:18 rhcl_kudos        Now we got the bill for hardware support, $1,400 for four computers
19:19 rhcl_kudos        Oh, and then there's the bill for software support.
19:19 rhcl_kudos        Guess I need to start drinking Sanka...
19:19 rhcl_kudos        sorry
19:20 gmcharlt          rhcl_kudos: you should be, we can find better coffee for you to drink than Sanka ;)
19:23 wizzyrea_         there, now rhcl_kudos isn't the only one using a free OS
19:47 * jwagner         has a problem with sekjal using "git" and "sanely" in the same sentence....
19:47 rangi             wow
19:47 rangi             sauna bus
19:47 jcamins           cait: have you done any work on bug 5901?
19:48 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5901 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Make virtualshelves permissions more granular
19:49 bg                new_QA++  best of luck to you :)
19:49 cait              jcamins: yes...
19:49 cait              I had the sys prefs ready and was workingont he templates part
19:49 cait              and then I deleted my branch :(
19:49 jcamins           cait++ # I thought so! :D
19:49 jcamins           Oh no!
19:49 jcamins           :(
19:50 cait              jcamins: I will start over with it
19:50 cait              but I needed a break
19:50 jcamins           Fair enough.
19:51 cait              I didn't understand the code good enough, it looked like there was already something in there supposed to do what we want
19:51 cait              have to spend more time on this
19:52 rhcl_kudos        is git iansanely?
19:52 cait              git?
19:52 wahanui           well, git is found at http://git.koha-community.org
19:53 cait              hm, think git is to keep one sane? :)
19:53 rangi             not using git is insane :)
19:54 gmcharlt          wahanui: not using git?
19:54 wahanui           not using git is insane :)
19:55 druthb            wahanui:   druthb?
19:55 wahanui           i haven't a clue, druthb
19:55 druthb            wahanui: wizzyrea?
19:55 wahanui           wizzyrea is a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet
19:55 ibeardslee        rangi: the sauna bus/train is the biggest gripe I have about public transport
19:55 ibeardslee        they think because it is cold/wet that the heaters need to be cranked right up
19:56 rangi             yeah
19:56 ibeardslee        and those that have dressed for the cold/wet outside suffer
19:56 rangi             exactly
19:56 rangi             and wet wool
19:56 rangi             peee eeeew
19:57 ibeardslee        not as bad as the wet, uncared for leather jackets
20:06 bg                great quote from sekjal - on his presentation -- installing Git --  "just don't do it on Windows"  Just don't do it
20:06 gmcharlt          heh
20:06 gmcharlt          though if you're writing a Windows app, feel free to use Git anyway ;)
20:07 * oleonard        has done it on Windows, although not as a basis for an installation of course
20:08 * oleonard        did this: http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/
20:12 * conan           is puzzled by his VM
20:13 conan             if nmap is telling me IP and ports (80 and 8080) are ok and open, and virtualhost is correctly binded in apache, what else do you think shoud I touch to connect to my koha in this VM?
20:14 * oleonard        will see you all tomorrow
20:14 rhcl_kudos        would "git format-patch master" be different if you were submitting a patch to a branch?
20:15 jcamins           rhcl_kudos: git format-patch 3.2.x
20:15 rhcl_kudos        icic
20:15 conan             don't mind me, I forgot to restart services :/
20:15 jcamins           Well, actually, you probably want: git format-patch origin/3.2.x
20:15 jcamins           Unless you're me, in which case you need: git format-patch kc/3.2.x
20:15 jcamins           :D
20:16 jcamins           (because I have my own git repo set up as "origin", to save on bandwidth when I need to clone koha *again*)
20:17 rangi             remotes are cool
20:17 pastebot          "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "remotes are cool" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/27
20:18 jcamins           Heh.
20:18 * jcamins         only has 8.
20:18 jcamins           It's plenty.
20:19 cait              :)
20:23 druthb            welcome, larryb
20:23 rangi             hi larryb
20:24 cait              hi larryb :)
20:27 bg                heya larryb
20:28 jcamins           larryb: you just woke the cat up.
20:28 jcamins           :)
20:28 ronald            hi
20:28 ronald            good afternoon
20:28 * cait            tries to get myshkin's attention
20:28 rangi             good morning ronald :)
20:28 cait              hi ronald
20:29 ronald            how I can remove a credit to it?
20:29 rangi             sorry?
20:29 jcamins           cait: he decided he was thirsty and after I wouldn't let him have my glass, he wandered off to get a drink of water from his bowl.
20:30 ronald            un credito que cree en un usuario
20:30 ronald            a credit to create a user
20:30 rangi             im sorry i dont understand what you are asking
20:30 ronald            I can not remove
20:31 gmcharlt          ronald: a registration fee
20:31 ronald            ok
20:31 gmcharlt          ?
20:31 ronald            not
20:32 ronald            go to patron
20:32 jcamins           ms_publisher--
20:32 ronald            patron fines
20:32 ronald            Creating Manual Invoices
20:33 jcamins           windows--
20:33 jcamins           microsoft--
20:33 ronald            i created a manual invoices, and now, i cant remove it
20:34 * druthb          says "windows++" just for the purpose of arousing the ire of the peanut gallery.
20:34 ronald            :(
20:34 jcamins           ronald: of course not. That's against commonly-accepted accounting principles.
20:34 gmcharlt          ronald: what you can do is mark the invoice "forgiven"
20:34 jcamins           You can either delete it from the database or -- better -- write it off.
20:35 ronald            how?
20:36 gmcharlt          in the pay fines page, there is a drop-down to pay/forgive/write off each fine
20:36 ronald            ok
20:37 ronald            wait me
20:37 jcamins           windows--
20:37 * jcamins         grumbles as he tries to turn an MS Publisher file into a PDF.
20:38 ronald            can not, sum Manual Invoices
20:39 ronald            i had
20:39 ronald            10000
20:39 ronald            and now i forgive 10000 and now i have crddit 20000
20:40 ronald            credit
20:43 ronald            :s
20:44 ronald            how i can either delete it from the database or -- better -- write it off.?
20:45 ronald            jcamins how i can either delete it from the database or -- better -- write it off.?
20:46 jcamins           ronald: gmcharlt told you how to write off fines.
20:46 ronald            the manual invoices?
20:46 jcamins           As for deleting from the database, the following command (or something like it) will remove all account activity for a specific patron:
20:46 jcamins           DELETE FROM accountlines WHERE borrowernumber='XXXX';
20:47 ronald            ok...
20:48 ronald            ehhh sorry
20:48 ronald            where you enter that command?
20:48 jcamins           In mysql.
20:48 jcamins           If you're not sure how to do that, I would *strongly* recommend you not try.
20:48 ronald            :( i not sure
20:49 jcamins           Then don't try it. Making changes directly to the database can destroy all your data.
20:49 Ahmuck            pub to pdf
20:49 Ahmuck            pub2pdf, sorry
20:49 jcamins           Ahmuck: really? Awesome!
20:49 ronald            :s
20:50 * jcamins         was opening the file in a VM with Publisher and painfully printing the file to convert it into PDF.
20:50 Ahmuck            http://3d2f.com/programs/65-137-publisher-to-pdf-converter-download.shtml
20:50 jcamins           :)
20:50 jcamins           Ahmuck++
20:52 * Ahmuck          philosophy, never do the hard work somebody else has done for you :)
20:52 jcamins           Well that's obnoxious.
20:53 Ahmuck            actually, it appears that is exactly what happens, open in publisher, and convert to pdf
20:53 Ahmuck            via printing i suppose
20:53 * jcamins         was responding to the message on the list, not Ahmuck.
20:53 jcamins           Ahmuck: yeah, but it's a one step process.
20:53 jcamins           That seems like an improvement to me.
20:54 Ahmuck            bet it could even be scripted
20:57 rangi             oh the sales one
20:58 rangi             yeah
20:58 rangi             i say let it die, or reply offlist, dont give it more air by quoting it whatever you do :)
20:58 jcamins           I'm ignoring it.
20:58 jcamins           It was obviously a bot.
20:59 jcamins           Well, maybe it wasn't. I didn't read it with that much attention.
21:00 rangi             yeah
21:02 * druthb          will be back shortly, from her lightning presentation.  queue up your clever commentary to go on the Big Screen!
21:02 jcamins           What are you talking about?
21:02 ronald            jcamins where wirte it off the Manual Invoices?
21:03 ronald            where wirte it off the Manual Invoices?
21:03 jcamins           ronald: I don't recall exactly. Poke around.
21:04 ronald            System Preferences?
21:04 ronald            help me please
21:04 jcamins           ronald: it will be in the patron record, but that's the most information I can give you.
21:04 bg                oh no - be careful - he maybe coming a flood of new peeps to this channel
21:05 bg                druthb is lighting-talking about this channel
21:05 bg                he come a bunch of mibbits
21:05 rangi             well, mibbit only allows are certain amount at once
21:05 rangi             i think 5
21:05 rangi             so it wont be that many
21:05 bg                heh
21:05 jcamins           ronald: I rarely write off manual invoices. I just know it's possible.
21:06 jcamins           Also, it's 5:08, which means it's time to think about issues of national, racial, and religious identity in late Imperial Russia. ;)
21:06 rangi             http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x7261#patronfines
21:06 rangi             hey its Talljoy
21:06 rangi             i just read her tweet
21:07 rangi             welcome to #koha Talljoy
21:07 * rangi           is in wellington new zealand
21:08 bg                heya Talljoy
21:08 Talljoy           Thank you
21:08 bg                hi druthb
21:08 larryb            Hello druthb
21:08 wizzyrea_         hey Ruth
21:08 sekjal            swarm, swarm, swarm!!
21:09 rangi             heya druthb and mariew and skushner
21:09 bg                hiya skeshner
21:09 bg                heh
21:09 bg                skushner
21:09 rangi             druthb: mibbit will only let a certain number connect at once
21:09 druthb            say howdy to #kudos11, folks!
21:09 gmcharlt          heya newbie swarm!
21:09 rangi             i think you probably are at about that number :)
21:09 * cait            waves
21:09 bg                yeah can you repost that -- we are on the big board right now?
21:10 bg                rangi I got it
21:10 rangi             you got it?
21:10 bg                from rangi "well, mibbit only allows are certain amount at once
21:10 bg                i think 5
21:10 bg                so it wont be that many"
21:10 sekjal            druthb++
21:10 druthb            sekjal++
21:10 bg                druthb++
21:10 rangi             if ppl get connection refused, that will be why
21:10 druthb            @karma druthb
21:10 huginn            druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 85 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 85.
21:11 Orcish_lib        At karma bg
21:11 sekjal            @karma windows
21:11 huginn            sekjal: Karma for "windows" has been increased 1 time and decreased 7 times for a total karma of -6.
21:11 druthb            @karma
21:11 huginn            druthb: Highest karma: "oleonard" (253), "gmcharlt" (250), and "chris" (236).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-104), "failed" (-53), and "-" (-35).  You (druthb) are ranked 10 out of 1415.
21:12 gmcharlt          chris++
21:12 bg                chris = rangi
21:12 Orcish_lib        @karma bg
21:12 huginn            Orcish_lib: Karma for "bg" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
21:12 bg                rangi++
21:12 gmcharlt          rangi: do you want a karma mege?
21:12 rangi             hmm
21:12 jcamins           @karma brendan
21:12 huginn            jcamins: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 26 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 26.
21:12 rangi             @karma rangi
21:12 huginn            rangi: Karma for "rangi" has been increased 67 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 67.
21:12 jcamins           bg = brendan
21:12 bg                I'd say yeah
21:12 rangi             yeah, why not
21:12 bg                bummer we aren't on the big screen anymore
21:13 rangi             what,
21:13 rangi             we didnt even get to do quote? :)
21:13 rangi             @quote random
21:13 huginn            rangi: Quote #108: "<owen> As Pee-wee said, Everyone I know has a big 'but'" (added by druthb at 03:20 PM, November 30, 2010)
21:13 bg                oh yeah we're back
21:13 rangi             excuse
21:13 wahanui           rangi: Unoptimized hard drive
21:13 bg                nope gone again
21:13 wizzyrea_         @quote get 123
21:13 huginn            wizzyrea_: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
21:13 wahanui           i already had it that way, huginn.
21:13 rangi             that'll do it every time
21:13 Space_Librarian   which is amusing.
21:13 cait              @wunder Konstanz
21:13 huginn            cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 14.0�C (11:00 PM CEST on May 02, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003 hPa (Rising).
21:14 Space_Librarian   everytime. :)
21:14 wizzyrea_         jquery library?
21:14 wahanui           jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library
21:14 schuster          @wunder Madison WI
21:14 huginn            schuster: The current temperature in Middleton, Wisconsin is 12.0�C (3:55 PM CDT on May 02, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
21:14 cait              @marc 001
21:14 huginn            cait: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). []
21:14 rangi             i bet the newbies are freaking out about now
21:14 rangi             the scroll, its too fast!
21:14 Orcish_lib        That would be right
21:14 rangi             you do get used to it though
21:14 rangi             and it is all logged
21:14 jcamins           Well, kind of used to it, anyway.
21:15 jcamins           You also just get in the habit of scrolling back a lot.
21:15 bg                @wunder 93109
21:15 huginn            bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 29.7�C (2:17 PM PDT on May 02, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady).
21:15 bg                @wunder madison, wi
21:15 huginn            bg: The current temperature in Middleton, Wisconsin is 12.0�C (3:55 PM CDT on May 02, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
21:15 wahanui           i already had it that way, huginn.
21:15 wizzyrea_         @later tell druthb Hi :)
21:15 huginn            wizzyrea_: The operation succeeded.
21:15 druthb            @wunder
21:15 huginn            druthb: (wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
21:15 rangi             http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-05-02#i_658089
21:15 rangi             log
21:15 druthb            @wunder 20852
21:15 gmcharlt          @karma
21:15 huginn            gmcharlt: Highest karma: "rangi" (304), "oleonard" (253), and "gmcharlt" (250).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-104), "failed" (-53), and "-" (-35).  You (gmcharlt) are ranked 3 out of 1415.
21:15 huginn            druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 24.9�C (5:17 PM EDT on May 02, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Steady).
21:15 jcamins           log?
21:16 jcamins           wahanui: log is at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/
21:16 wahanui           OK, jcamins.
21:16 jcamins           log?
21:16 wahanui           i heard log was at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/
21:16 cait              wahanui botsnack cookie
21:16 wahanui           thanks cait :)
21:16 druthb            wahanui:  wizzyrea?
21:16 wahanui           i think wizzyrea is a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet
21:16 Orcish_lib        @wunder 67530
21:16 huginn            Orcish_lib: The current temperature in Great Bend, Kansas is 14.9�C (4:15 PM CDT on May 02, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Falling).
21:16 rhcl_kudos        @seen wizzyrea
21:16 huginn            rhcl_kudos: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 3 days, 1 hour, 21 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> don't apologize, gotta do what you gotta do :)
21:16 * Space_Librarian waves at druthb
21:16 druthb            sekjal?
21:16 wahanui           sekjal is a wonderful geek.
21:17 * sekjal          types /me
21:17 druthb            [off]  hi.
21:17 rangi             wanna see something kinda useful?
21:17 rangi             huh huh
21:17 rangi             do ya
21:17 rangi             do ya
21:17 Space_Librarian   yep
21:17 rangi             ?
21:17 skushner          Has anyone ever virtualized a Sun Fire 280R Sparc system, and if so, how? thanks
21:17 Space_Librarian   come on then.
21:17 rangi             !jenkins_koha status
21:17 jenkins_koha      rangi did you mean me? Unknown command '_koha'
21:17 jenkins_koha      Use !jenkinshelp to get help!
21:17 rhcl_kudos        we have a fire v240
21:18 rangi             !jenkins status
21:18 jenkins_koha      status of all projects:
21:18 jenkins_koha      Koha_3.2.x: last build: 22 (11 j ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/22/
21:18 jenkins_koha      Koha_master: last build: 241 (20 h ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/241/
21:18 wizzyrea_         aight kids :) they're gone
21:18 rangi             they should stay
21:18 rangi             we dont bite
21:18 Orcish_lib        Off
21:18 rangi             well except that one time
21:18 rhcl_kudos        no virtualization, but I understand sun has something that does vms
21:18 druthb            presenting_without_preparation--
21:19 jcamins           druthb: you did great.
21:19 * jcamins         should have demonstrated the whimsical nature of some of wahanui's memories by asking about himself.
21:19 Space_Librarian   druthb: I'm sure you were fantastic. :)
21:19 jcamins           wahanui: jcamins?
21:19 wahanui           it has been said that jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas.
21:19 skushner          i'm trying to install debian on my sunbox
21:19 rangi             rhcl_kudos: yeah they have zones i think they call them
21:20 rangi             skushner++
21:20 druthb            thanx, jcamins and Space_Librarian.
21:20 rangi             druthb++ # of course you were fine
21:20 skushner          i know, zones, containers, brandz, etc...but haven't found the one, thanks
21:21 schuster          Great job RUTH!!
21:21 Space_Librarian   druthb: your slides were awesome. And I believe your presentation will be very, *very* useful.
21:21 wizzyrea_         dschuster++
21:21 rhcl_kudos        so can (or are you trying) to install debian on the bare metal?
21:21 wizzyrea_         druthb++
21:21 Space_Librarian   druthb ++
21:21 druthb            thanx, schuster.  Space_Librarian, this wasn't the big one you've seen...this was a mini-mini, two-slide chatter about IRC.
21:21 rangi             hopefully people will come back, we talk about a lot of interesting things here, and some of the best ideas/features started here
21:22 Space_Librarian   druthb: I scrolled up and read through.
21:22 druthb            ooo
21:22 Space_Librarian   learnt some stuff too
21:22 druthb            The presentation tomorrow is largely preaching to the converted, but there's some good thoughts in there, maybe.
21:23 * druthb          waves to LBA.
21:23 bg                hi LBA
21:23 henryb            wahanui: LBA
21:23 wahanui           henryb: what?
21:23 wizzyrea_         I don't think he knows her yet
21:23 wizzyrea_         you can teach him something about her
21:23 wizzyrea_         if you want
21:24 henryb            forgot the ?
21:24 druthb            LBA is brilliant!
21:24 druthb            wahanui: LBA?
21:24 wahanui           LBA is brilliant!
21:24 henryb            LBA ++
21:25 rangi             awww they are leaving ;(
21:26 bg                booo
21:27 Space_Librarian   they'll be back...
21:29 LBA               Thanks Liz. Colloquy client is better than lime irc.
21:33 ronald            this is a problem.... i can created a manual credit, but dont remove it....and always will be deducted from all fines
21:33 ronald            :s
21:34 wizzyrea_         sure thing :)
21:34 ronald            is illogical
21:34 ronald            if only i created to 1 fine, not fro all
21:36 skushner          hey ronald, we have that problem too
21:37 ronald            :s
21:37 ronald            sure!
21:37 ronald            and now i cant remove it....and always will be deducted from all fines
21:37 wizzyrea_         lba++ - this is funny
21:37 ronald            forerver and ever
21:37 sekjal            three_eyed_toad++
21:37 skushner          does it 0 out all the fines
21:37 gmcharlt          LBA++
21:38 druthb            LBA++
21:39 ronald            no 0, but for example  fine 10.000 credit 2000
21:39 ronald            =8000
21:39 bg                LBA++
21:40 ronald            not only for 1, if not all from now on
21:40 jwagner           LBA, shouldn't you have credited Rosalie Blake?
21:41 ronald            need a manual for only 1 credit, not for alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
21:41 ronald            :s
21:42 ronald            forever and ever....until terminal koha
21:42 ronald            jajajaja
21:42 LBA               Jea
21:42 ronald            :s
21:43 LBA               Jwahnw
21:43 LBA               jwagner: Maybe so. It was history as I know it.
21:44 LBA               Hard to irc on iPhone it turns out.
21:45 gmcharlt          yeah, text entry just not up to it for fast-moving channels
21:45 gmcharlt          but useful if it's what you have on hand
21:45 druthb            wizzyrea++
21:45 bg                wizzyrea++
21:45 rangi             thats the main reason i got a phone with a hardware keyboard
21:48 NCARMichael       Hi y'all.  I'm looking for info about the interoperability of Koha and mobile applications.
21:48 NCARMichael       Any pertinent links/discussions to share w/me?
21:48 gmcharlt          NCARMichael: Koha's OPAC works well enough in most smart phones
21:48 ronald            so, no one can solve the problem
21:49 gmcharlt          there's also an Android app
21:49 gmcharlt          http://www.appbrain.com/app/kiritaki-koha-(beta)/nz.net.catalyst.KiritakiKoha
21:49 gmcharlt          for patron self-service
21:49 jcamins           ronald: add a new fine for the same amount?
21:49 gmcharlt          code at http://code.google.com/p/kiritakikoha/
21:49 ronald            yes
21:49 jcamins           ronald: that was a suggestion.
21:50 NCARMichael       okay, thanks Galen.
21:50 jcamins           If the problem is that the balance is negative, add a fine for that amount, zeroing out the account.
21:50 gmcharlt          NCARMichael: are there things you're trying to do with Koha and mobile devices, or are you just asking for background?
21:50 ronald            should be a way to delete or cancel the credit
21:51 jcamins           Right, now it's time to focus on the issue of Jewish national identity in late Imperial Russia, particularly with regards to Central Asia and the Khanate of Bukhara.
21:51 jcamins           Good night, #koha.
21:51 NCARMichael       just background and possibilities really.
21:51 jcamins           ronald: if no one knows of a way, your options are experiment on your own, or try something else.
21:52 ronald            daaaa!
21:52 ronald            thanks for nothind jcamins
21:53 gmcharlt          ronald: be polite or leave
21:53 gmcharlt          as much help as you need is available, but please remember that there are real people behind the IRC nicks
21:54 rhcl_kudos        @later tell jcamins my old <Jewish> employer used to tell me stories of his childhood in Russia--would have been around the time of the revolution I suppose
21:54 huginn            rhcl_kudos: The operation succeeded.
21:55 rangi             i overheard someone on the bus today
21:55 rangi             talking on their phone
21:55 rangi             they said
21:56 rangi             "If you are going to ask for help, don't be an egg about it"
21:56 rangi             how fitting
21:56 rhcl_kudos        it's over
22:01 sekjal            okay, time to catch a breather and then go for the Vendor Reception
22:04 rangi             heh
23:15 rangi             hmm i think there's a bug in ovedue_notices.pl
23:16 rangi             anyone around, or are people off vendor receptioning
23:16 jcamins_away      What bug?
23:16 wahanui           rumour has it bug is 6229
23:16 jcamins_away      wahanui: forget bug
23:16 wahanui           jcamins_away: I forgot bug
23:17 rangi             http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl;h=bc97ecb5d5589bfc326e4c8851d2768e880f3444;hb=ae70c2f79007e224510d13eb52e6a392c60e25a6#l427
23:17 jcamins_away      A bug is always bad news, particularly if you haven't filed it yet.
23:17 jcamins_away      wahanui: bug?
23:17 wahanui           well, bug is always bad news, particularly if you haven't filed it yet.
23:17 rangi             see that sql line 427
23:17 rangi             then the 444 bit
23:18 rangi             what it means it it only looks to see if it should send an overdue, using the oldest overdue
23:18 rangi             so if you have something 34 days overdue, and something 3 days overdue, with a trigger for 3 days
23:18 rangi             it wont get sent
23:18 rangi             cos the 34 days one will get in the way
23:18 jcamins_away      Ooh. We had a report of that happening.
23:19 jcamins_away      Well, we had a report of overdue notices not getting sent. It could have been caused by this.
23:19 rangi             yes, most likely
23:19 rangi             thats how i found it, a report of not sending overdues
23:19 rangi             ill file a bug
23:21 jcamins_away      Thanks.
23:22 * jcamins_away    has been sucked into the vortex of an archive of digitized antiquarian Russian books.
23:29 rangi             bug 6292
23:29 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6292 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Overdue notices have a bug when multiple overdues exist