Time Nick Message
23:59 space_librarian if it automatically confirms the hold, then the may need to be a pop-up with the holds screen just to double check then.
23:58 space_librarian no librarian worth their salt will walk away without checking the screen after they finish checking books in. Of course, there are always those that don't...
23:58 sekjal what about automatically confirming holds? a system preference to just say "yes", no matter what, so there's no need for a confirm box?
23:57 sekjal if we defocus or otherwise dump the rest of their scans, we still run the risk of them just doing it, then walking away, and now the Hold is still unfilled, and the items have not been returned
23:57 space_librarian hmmmm.
23:55 sekjal opening.ogg
23:55 sekjal but they're already getting a nice "hold found" sound instead of the beep
23:54 space_librarian they may have to see why...
23:54 space_librarian sekjal: but if the system is beeping when it shouldn't...
23:54 brendan_ hiya natec
23:54 space_librarian hey NateC.
23:54 sekjal hey, NateC
23:54 sekjal we can't provide a different visual cue, because they're already ignoring those
23:54 NateC Hi #koha!
23:54 sekjal we can't provide a different sound, because they're already ignoring sounds
23:53 space_librarian haptic feedback is a great idea.
23:53 sekjal eythian: agreed
23:53 space_librarian lol. yes
23:53 eythian a small electric shock sent through the barcode scanner would be ideal :)
23:53 space_librarian if there is sound attached to computer
23:53 sekjal so we're alerting both visually and audibly
23:52 eythian well, tbh we can only do so much. If they're not looking at the screen, they should put sound on.
23:52 sekjal if they have the sound on, they'll get a different sound when the notification message shows up
23:51 space_librarian lazy behaviour.
23:51 space_librarian but it's what many librarians do.
23:50 sekjal scanning in materials blindly is not proper use of the system
23:50 sekjal I think the real problem here is the user behavior
23:49 space_librarian you don't want to think you're still checking in several more books and you're not.
23:48 space_librarian so there *is* a way. But can you get a beep to alert as well?
23:41 sekjal that would make much more sense
23:41 sekjal ah
23:39 eythian enter
23:39 eythian carriage return
23:38 sekjal Cr?
23:35 eythian sekjal: oh, I know! Have the javascript ignore the CR being sent
23:34 sekjal nope, jumps back to checkout... dang
23:32 sekjal it should stay with the checkin.... but I'll confirm
23:28 eythian that's an option, so long as the focus doesn't jump to the search box
23:27 sekjal idea: whenever there is a message on checkin, disable the input box for more barcodes. like we do on circ/circulation.pl
23:26 eythian you can get a cream for that. "Deep packet" or something.
23:25 sekjal sorry, internet cramp
23:17 space_librarian ...
23:16 sekjal not sure... surely there must be a way
23:16 eythian sekjal: can you explicitly defocus everything?
23:16 eythian sekjal: also not optimal...
23:16 eythian well, I'd expect something attention grabbing is good in this case too, otherwise you'll go through a bunch and realise it stopped doing anything a while back.
23:15 sekjal if I kill the focus for the barcode input, it defaults to the checkout field at the very top...
23:15 space_librarian there must be a way around that.
23:15 space_librarian hmmm...
23:15 eythian space_librarian: popups are closed by the enter key, that's bad because the scanner also sends enter
23:14 space_librarian and they manually have to close the pop-up...?!
23:14 space_librarian or give a pop-up if there is a hold on the book?
23:14 eythian maybe the screen should flash colour for a moment to draw attention if sound is off...
23:13 sekjal if sound is off, and the librarian isn't looking at the screen
23:13 sekjal so, yes, we could wind up in a situation where every other material fails to checkin properly
23:13 sekjal and scanning in the next barcode does confirm it, but doesn't check in that material
23:13 eythian where do you think empericism is going to get you, huh? ;)
23:12 sekjal okay, so we get the "hold notification" sound
23:11 * sekjal busts out his barcode scanner
23:09 eythian I'd think something like a double-beep and defocussing would be the best idea there
23:08 eythian sekjal: then they'll scan something, it'll press confirm, and that scan may get missed
23:08 sekjal but there should probably be a syspref to control that...
23:08 sekjal it's easy enough to change the focus from the barcode input to the "confirm" button
23:07 rhcl I know our circ people have mentioned this, but I don't have a good frame of reference other than that, and no specific info on a bug for it.
23:04 sekjal taking the focus off the barcode input would at least force them to look up to see why it didn't beep when they scanned the next material
23:03 sekjal the problem being, librarians scanning in book after book, and if they don't look up to see there's a hold found, that hold never gets advanced
23:02 sekjal does anyone recall a bug report about changing the focus for the Holds Notification box on circ/returns.pl?
22:18 cait koha_community++
22:18 * space_librarian waves to cait
22:18 cait and thx!
22:17 rangi sleep well cait
22:16 cait good night all :)
22:16 cait ok, have to get some sleep
22:11 cait thx for your help :)
22:11 cait it's great
22:10 hdl hope that helps
22:10 hdl 56363 borrowers and 36 branches
22:08 hdl https://catalogue.univ-lyon3.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&q=wong&sort_by=NULL_NULL&limit=se:%E4%BA%8C%20%E5%8D%81%20%E5%9B%9B%20%E5%8F%B2%20%E7%B4%A2%20%E5%BC%95
22:06 hdl around 330000 records for that one
22:06 cait showing the different types and sizes of libraries using koha
22:06 cait and some numbes
22:06 hdl look for wong in catalogue.univ-lyon3.fr then ;)
22:05 cait hdl: only want a nice screenshot for my slides
22:03 hdl )
22:03 hdl (for this one
22:03 hdl but will have some maintenance on Tuesday
22:02 hdl catalogue.univ-lyon3.fr too
22:02 cait sorry, getting a bit tired
22:02 hdl cait: provided two lines before
22:01 space_librarian hdl: there are some lovely catalogues in France.
22:01 cait url?
22:01 cait was looking for one
22:01 cait and it's academic! right?
22:01 hdl more than 12000 users
22:01 hdl aix marseille is 800000 records
22:00 wizzyrea adieu for now ;)
22:00 wizzyrea and with that
22:00 hdl But little customisation
22:00 wizzyrea (seriously though, I know that nexpress could be improved)
22:00 hdl if you search for academic libraries, univ-lyon3 or aix Marseille http://catalogue.univ-aix-marseille.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
22:00 wizzyrea cait: honesty, i like it ;)
21:59 * cait hides
21:59 cait wizzyrea: but their catalog looks nicer
21:59 wizzyrea ha!
21:59 cait thx hdl :)
21:59 space_librarian wizzyrea: funny comment about travel agents. I went to a talk where the speaker claimed that libraries should be like app stores and librarians like tripadvisor...
21:59 hdl (around 160000 records, 12000 borrowers and 29 branches)
21:58 cait the only problem with french libaries is, that I always try to not have to say the name
21:58 cait hm lots of branches and nice layout :)
21:57 space_librarian viva la (geek) revolucion!
21:56 wizzyrea no pressure: http://www.libraryjournal.com/lj/home/890328-264/geeks_are_the_future_a.html.csp
21:56 hdl montauban.biblibre.com is much bigger public library too
21:56 * space_librarian must learn some perl so she can contribute...
21:55 wizzyrea hee: http://ilearnedtoprogram.com/
21:55 cait not sure, some libraries here use that too, I am a bit indifferent about it
21:55 space_librarian I also like Médiathèque... so much more descriptive than bibliothèque...
21:55 hdl indeed it is
21:55 cait the adv search?
21:54 hdl This library is quite little. But the customisation is quite interesting
21:54 cait looks like a public library
21:54 cait like bibs, items, patrons, branchs, type of library
21:54 hdl which numbers do you want ?
21:53 cait hdl: do you have maybe some numbers for me about that one? :)
21:53 wizzyrea mhm
21:53 cait I like the rose in front of the headlines
21:52 wizzyrea easy enough I'd fathom with chrome + developer tools
21:52 wizzyrea same, and same
21:52 cait but not tonight :)
21:52 cait like the strips in the login box
21:52 cait I really have to find out how you do some of those nice tricks
21:52 space_librarian I like the idea of the subject cloud.
21:51 wizzyrea oh yea that's a pretty one
21:51 hdl cait: you may like this OPAC : http://cannetdesmaures.biblibre.com/
21:51 wizzyrea hehe
21:50 space_librarian Ah... colours of USPS... Speedlines of DHL. Mix them together and I get UPS. Oy Vey.
21:49 * space_librarian needs coffee STAT
21:49 space_librarian parcel*
21:49 space_librarian I think it's all parecel companies. And the speedlines.
21:49 wizzyrea not brown?
21:49 wizzyrea and ... uh...
21:49 wizzyrea it's rapid!
21:49 space_librarian For some reason, it reminds me of UPS. Not entirely sure why.
21:48 wizzyrea ^.^
21:48 space_librarian point taken
21:47 wizzyrea wtf exactly am I supposed to design around THAT monstrosity
21:47 cait ok, now I crashed ff4
21:47 wizzyrea but look at that logo
21:47 * space_librarian is amused
21:47 * wizzyrea is ashamed
21:47 space_librarian :p
21:47 wizzyrea i know
21:47 space_librarian wizzyrea: spoilsport
21:47 wizzyrea to be honest
21:47 cait tbh?
21:47 wizzyrea plain jane kind of suits it
21:47 wizzyrea though, tbh
21:46 wizzyrea ^.^ ok I'll do my best
21:46 cait ok wizzyra, you get until my next big presentation - which is in june!
21:46 wizzyrea >.>
21:46 wizzyrea yes, that
21:46 wahanui cait: static from plastic slide rules
21:46 cait excuse?
21:46 wizzyrea very
21:46 cait oh bad excuse
21:45 wizzyrea lack of effort :P
21:45 cait wizzyrea: why not?
21:45 rangi yup
21:45 cait the last one is an older koha version, right?
21:45 wizzyrea nexpress isn't as pretty as I'd like
21:44 cait ok, give other countries a chance ;)
21:44 rangi http://www.rangitikeilibrary.org.nz/
21:44 rangi www.library.org.nz of course
21:42 cait and transformed?
21:42 cait ah
21:41 rangi https://github.com/alenkovich/Koha-recently-acquired-books
21:40 rangi cait: those are just from amazon cait
21:40 rangi and then order by acquisition date
21:40 SteveJ Doh, I totally knew that!
21:40 cait rangi: the pictures too?
21:40 rangi so do a search on an item type say
21:39 rangi SteveJ: any search results are an rss feed
21:39 SteveJ cait, can you direct me to where to find that?
21:39 rangi yep
21:38 cait and you can subscribe rss feeds sorted by acq date
21:38 rangi naw, just pulls it from acquisitions data
21:38 cait more a manual thing I guess?
21:38 cait the pictures look too nice
21:38 brendan_ hiya all
21:38 SteveJ The plant and food one is interesting. Is there an autpomatic feed for new items buried somewhere in Koha?
21:38 jcamins Time to go into the city for a show. Good night, #koha
21:34 space_librarian yeah, plant and food is one of my favourites.
21:34 rangi http://library.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/
21:34 cait special library?
21:34 cait hehe
21:34 jcamins How can every copy of Imagined Communities currently be checked out of the public library?
21:34 rangi https://library.plantandfood.co.nz/
21:33 cait ok, need some nice koha libraries examples! :) nice looking catalogs are a plus
21:33 jcamins :)
21:32 cait jcamins: next time
21:28 * space_librarian is waiting patiently for LibOffice to download...
21:28 * jcamins thinks you'd probably like the equivalent LibreOffice diagram better. :P
21:23 space_librarian :)
21:22 cait now it survived
21:22 cait put that on the slide
21:22 * cait took a screenshot of her excel diagram
21:13 * space_librarian goes to install libreoffice...
21:12 wizzyrea libreoffice is uber great :P
21:12 space_librarian I must know more...
21:12 space_librarian then get libreoffice. I am unfamiliar with it...
21:11 jcamins space_librarian: sacrilege! LibreOffice is Libre!
21:11 space_librarian and then get openoffice. :)
21:11 space_librarian best way to save during microsoft products...
21:10 space_librarian *coughgoogledocscough*
21:10 cait lol
21:10 rangi its sabotage i tells ya
21:09 rangi they hate you using it to demo open source
21:09 rangi its microsoft
21:09 cait with my unsaved slide in it
21:09 rangi ahh
21:09 rangi ?
21:09 cait powerpoint is dying on me :(
21:09 cait nooo
21:05 space_librarian and back. Without melting...
20:52 wizzyrea gl!
20:52 SpaceLibrarian_home bbiab
20:52 SpaceLibrarian_home ooh looks. some semblance of a break in the weather. time for the 100 yard dash.
20:51 SpaceLibrarian_home wizzyrea: yes, I agree
20:50 wizzyrea (aside: if they have, there goes my sacred space)
20:50 wizzyrea unless someone has developed a mind reading computer
20:49 wizzyrea you know that the computer can't tell you what you like unless it knows a little about you right>?
20:49 wizzyrea and I"m like, uh...
20:49 wizzyrea I keep hearing that "it ought to be like amazon, but with privacy"
20:48 SpaceLibrarian_home :)
20:48 SpaceLibrarian_home that's my kind of library opac you're thinking of.
20:48 wizzyrea !
20:48 SpaceLibrarian_home rangi ++ wizzyrea ++
20:21 wizzyrea very good suggestions
20:20 wizzyrea family info at circ is a good one
20:20 rangi ok my stop bbiab
20:20 rangi so ppl can have little avatars by their reviews/comments etc
20:20 wizzyrea the other stuff is cool too
20:20 wizzyrea i would love openlibrary hooks
20:19 rangi like gravatar but libre
20:19 rangi and the opac didn't get much love lately
20:19 cait what is libravatar?
20:18 rangi is for patrons
20:17 rangi cos really as far as im concerned thats the main thing we have an ils for
20:17 cait hehe
20:17 rangi including openlibrary hooks
20:16 rangi and a bunch of other opac stuff
20:16 rangi for 3.6 I want openid, libravatar, shared lists (nominate friends to share them with)
20:13 cait rangi: I am here
20:11 rangi which missed the cut, but hopefully osslabs finish them off for 3.6 in october
20:10 rangi a bunch still waiting to be finished and submitted too
20:10 rangi theres a few of those
20:07 SteveJ I'm going to go with any code that enhances analytics support
20:02 rangi those would be mine
20:02 rangi oh and the family info at circ
20:01 SpaceLibrarian_home oooh... import/export (from what I've seen). I still need to play with it though.
20:01 rangi manipulate sysprefs from commandline
20:01 nengard Import/Export Frameworks -- Search to Hold -- Duplicate Patron -- Patron Privacy
20:01 rangi mine is gonna be the items out, tt, export/import frameworks
20:00 SpaceLibrarian_home no more nozebra... um... You guys did well with this one. So hard to choose.
20:00 nengard in koha 3.4?
19:59 wizzyrea anybody else have 5 (or so) favorite new features?
19:58 * SpaceLibrarian_home does not want to leave home to walk 2 minutes in bad weather to get to work...
19:54 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
19:54 rangi @later tell cait bad cut and paste ill get it fixed
19:53 SpaceLibrarian_home yup
19:53 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
19:53 wizzyrea @wunder wellington, NZ
19:53 wizzyrea here
19:53 wizzyrea at least it's not raining today
19:53 SpaceLibrarian_home that's an understatement...
19:53 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 13.1�C (2:55 PM CDT on April 26, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.55 in 1000.6 hPa (Steady).
19:53 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks
19:52 wizzyrea it sucks here too
19:52 rangi this weather sux
19:51 wizzyrea but it's still not by branch
19:51 sekjal oh, right, yes, that mechanism
19:51 wizzyrea under tools -> news -> new -> slip
19:51 * sekjal hopes he's just out of date
19:51 wizzyrea definitely you can add notes to them
19:50 sekjal lots of talk about making it happen, but no code that I'm aware of
19:50 sekjal my understanding is that receipts are not customizable at this time
19:50 wizzyrea yes :)
19:50 sekjal ah, this is release notes!
19:49 wizzyrea it's listed under circulation
19:49 wizzyrea i meant in the notes
19:49 sekjal wizzyrea... not seeing the receipt customization options under Circulation...
19:49 wizzyrea ooo
19:48 wizzyrea i reeeallly ought to check that out
19:48 wizzyrea under administration
19:48 wizzyrea oh and ability to add news items to slips
19:47 wizzyrea other fields
19:47 wizzyrea Printed receipts can now include the library phone, address and
19:46 wizzyrea it's under circulation
19:46 wizzyrea adding the library address/phone to receipts
19:46 sekjal wizzyrea: receipt customization?
19:42 wizzyrea because my libraries are going to be chewing on my ankles wanting that
19:42 wizzyrea idk, I need to check on how it works
19:42 cait is it in systemparameters?
19:42 cait yep, I wasn't aware of the receipt thing
19:42 cait hehe
19:41 wizzyrea (additionally, search to hold, and fast add)
19:41 wizzyrea OH and the receipt customization
19:41 wizzyrea the fines notify
19:41 cait also good choices!
19:41 cait hehe ok
19:40 wizzyrea and i'm still looking :)
19:40 wizzyrea Parameters in reports, run this report after creation, WYSIWYG editor for news,
19:40 wahanui wizzyrea is a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet
19:40 cait wizzyrea?
19:38 cait now you tell me yours!
19:35 cait $w links/usecontrolnumber, fines/holds notify at check-in, search to hold, parameters in guided reports
19:31 wizzyrea i don't care :)
19:31 cait I am biased
19:31 wizzyrea please
19:31 wizzyrea and tell me what your top 5 fav new features are
19:31 wizzyrea take a looksee at the release notes for 3.4
19:31 wizzyrea it's an easy one
19:31 wizzyrea I have a question
19:31 wizzyrea ok ppls
18:55 huginn wizzyrea: 2 found: #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!" and #38: "<owen> Holy Bugzilla activity explosion, Batman!"
18:55 wizzyrea @quote search batman
18:54 huginn druthb: 2 found: #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon..." and #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!"
18:54 druthb @quote search bacon
18:54 huginn druthb: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 06:58 PM, September 17, 2009)
18:54 druthb @quote random
18:54 huginn druthb: Quote #38: "<owen> Holy Bugzilla activity explosion, Batman!" (added by ricardo at 02:00 PM, October 07, 2009)
18:54 druthb @quote random
18:54 huginn druthb: Quote #113: "<jcamins> I merely opened my hands and allowed a butterfly to flutter its wings once, thus ensuring that the record I was interested in would automatically show up on the terminal when I was walking by." (added by druthb at 02:18 PM, December 21, 2010)
18:54 druthb @quote random
18:41 wizzyrea i love that one
18:41 wizzyrea lol
18:40 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #124: "gmcharlt: well, obviously the Ode To Joy is the only possible sound cue for the hold-filled event" (added by wizzyrea at 06:33 PM, April 04, 2011)
18:40 wizzyrea @quote get 124
18:32 huginn wizzyrea: Error: 'last' is not a valid id.
18:32 wizzyrea @quote get last
18:32 huginn wizzyrea: Error: There is no Quote with id #129 in my database for #koha.
18:32 wizzyrea @quote get 129
18:32 huginn wizzyrea: Error: There is no Quote with id #130 in my database for #koha.
18:32 wizzyrea @quote get 130
18:32 * jcamins is going to see Le Cage aux Folles tonight. :D
18:30 cait hm.
18:30 huginn cait: Error: There is no Quote with id #131 in my database for #koha.
18:30 cait @quote get 131
18:30 huginn cait: Error: There is no Quote with id #133 in my database for #koha.
18:30 cait @quote get 133
18:26 jcamins http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2010-12-21#i_568783
18:25 jcamins Ah, right.
18:25 jcamins Why did I say that?
18:24 wizzyrea hehe
18:24 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #113: "<jcamins> I merely opened my hands and allowed a butterfly to flutter its wings once, thus ensuring that the record I was interested in would automatically show up on the terminal when I was walking by." (added by druthb at 02:18 PM, December 21, 2010)
18:24 wizzyrea @quote get 113
18:06 Oak night
17:53 huginn cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes
17:53 cait @quote 113
17:46 druthb lol
17:46 bg heh funny that ruth would get a quote from jdavidb :)
17:45 huginn druthb: Quote #26: "<chris> as an aside C4::Search makes my brain hurt" (added by jdavidb at 09:21 PM, August 22, 2009)
17:45 druthb @quote random
17:45 gmcharlt hi cait
17:45 cait hi gmcharlt
17:45 huginn cait: Quote #91: "<chris> Free as in kittens is a silly phrase that should die, if FOSS is free as in kittens, proprietary software is free as in an inbred purebreed cat. That costs thousands of dollars in vet bills every year and is slightly retarded." (added by wizzyrea at 08:42 PM, August 19, 2010)
17:45 cait @quote random
17:40 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #79: "<robin> drivers make windows crash, therefore windows makes drivers crash." (added by gmcharlt at 01:53 AM, June 24, 2010)
17:40 gmcharlt @quote random
15:08 conan anyway, patch was attached to 3674 if you want to test if I broke everything
15:08 conan hdl: also, there're no empty password users anymore, which I'm not sure if was what biblibre wanted or not
15:07 conan hdl: too late I already made that decision and I decided exactly that :P
15:05 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3674] Creating users with empty password <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3674>
14:55 hdl conan: no. They donot have to.
14:43 kf :P
14:43 druthb kf: harrrumph!
14:42 kf ok conan
14:42 kf pay Brooke_ back for telling the truth? :)
14:41 conan kf: no problem, the line of thought grew too deep, and I choose to keep it simple, but I might send a mail later to continue with what we were talking on 6220
14:30 druthb I oughta pay Brooke_ back for that one, by wearing slacks to our dinner tonight....
14:30 wahanui druthb: I forgot druthb
14:30 druthb wahanui: forget druthb
14:29 druthb harrumph!
14:29 wahanui i heard druthb was one fine number in a skirt.
14:29 druthb wahanui: druthb?
14:29 wahanui kf is cait or really, really sweet.
14:29 druthb kf?
14:29 wahanui okay, druthb.
14:29 druthb wahanui: kf is also really, really sweet.
14:28 wahanui kf is cait
14:28 jcamins kf?
14:27 wahanui rumour has it cait is kf or a programmer
14:27 jcamins cait?
14:27 wahanui okay, jcamins.
14:27 jcamins wahanui: cait is also a programmer
14:27 druthb :D
14:27 wahanui cait is kf
14:27 druthb wahanui: cait?
14:27 wahanui somebody said kf was cait
14:27 druthb wahanui: kf?
14:23 kf preparing for a presentation - i was not really following the discussion
14:23 kf sorry :(
14:19 conan and here I was this morning, talking about a bug I should be discussing with her
14:18 jwagner (but sometimes also known as cait)
14:18 jwagner The One and Only!
14:18 jcamins conan: she might indeed. ;)
14:18 conan kf: I just realized you might be Katrin Fischer!
14:17 * kf is searching for a time line for her presentation
14:17 kf I don't get all four text fields to show up at the same time
14:15 wizzyrea http://www.timetoast.com/timelines/koha-releases
14:15 wizzyrea :) I do
14:15 kf you did this nice timeline of koha releases... do you have that link somewhere? :)
14:14 kf ah
14:11 wizzyrea yesm
14:11 kf wizzyrea: around?
13:47 conan hdl: one thing more: system users, the ones without password, they should be able to login?
12:39 hdl they are created for koha... and services. should be staff.
12:38 conan you mean system like in they come from the subyacent system?
12:37 hdl this is what induced in having disabled passwords
12:36 hdl So they should not have password
12:36 hdl conan: some users are system users.
12:36 conan maybe we can just fix 3674 by avoiding the encoding ModMember() is doing on default borrowers.password = '!'
12:35 conan and all this thinking leads me to re-think that maybe I'm making too much fuss about something nobody needs
12:35 conan also, if we accept Karin's idea about making autogenerated passwords 'onetime passwords' then we would need to add a column to db
12:34 conan if we make an automatic one for them, then we have to send it somehow, mail preferably, and that introduces much stuff in the module
12:34 conan the initial thing is: we haver users, then those users should have a login/password
12:33 conan the thing is everytime I think about it, gets more complicated
12:32 conan hdl: so I want to simplify my life today :)
12:32 conan hdl: and I endeed with a broken overengineered module
12:32 conan hdl: I tried to make a general fix yesterday for 3674, 6224 and to include enhancements suggested by Karin Fischer on 6220
12:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3674 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, REOPENED, Creating users with empty password
12:29 hdl bug 3674
12:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3764 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, Cities Towns form not clear
12:29 hdl bug 3764
12:29 conan that's my question, what to do with 3674
12:29 conan so 3674 needs to be properly implemented then
12:28 conan ok
12:28 hdl nahuel would not develop things without a need.
12:28 hdl We have.
12:28 hdl But what is your need ?
12:28 conan hdl: what do you think? do you use that feature at biblibre?
12:27 hdl I read.
12:27 hdl that is a kind of hunt I like.
12:27 conan hdl: you were logged in, did you read our previous conversation with rangi, or should I repeat?
12:27 conan hdl: sorry I was hunting a bug in bug in a bug
12:27 tcohen question: is it a problem that a record in 'biblio' table doesn't have a frameworkcode? (i.e. ='')
12:27 wahanui hola, conan
12:27 conan hdl: hello
12:22 hdl hi tcohen and kf
12:13 kf and I have an idea how to make a whole block like alternate address 'unwanted'
12:12 kf it needs at least the title field and the sql files fixed before it can be marked signed-off
12:11 kf I tested it today - noted my comments below
12:11 nengard okey dokey
12:11 kf nengard: I will send a follow up
12:10 nengard was about to test it but I'm thinking someone already did
12:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6190 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED, Custom field removal from patron entry screens
12:10 nengard kf for bug 6190 did your fixed patch fail qa? or the original patch?
12:08 tcohen hi hdl, paul_p
12:08 tcohen hi nengard
12:05 nengard morning all
12:05 kf hi nengard
12:01 kf hi hdl and paul_p
11:45 hdl hi conan
11:43 hdl hi conan?
11:22 kf aha
11:21 huginn kf: 7 found: #100: "chris: well, one of them is overhauling the...", #110: "chris: im rm, not god", #113: "<jcamins> I merely opened my hands and allowed...", #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats", #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon...", #27: "<jdavidb> ("A helicopter does not fly; it is a...", and #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information..."
11:21 kf @quote search rm
11:21 huginn rangi: 2 found: #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad..." and #39: "chris <chris> nope, ive made it my aim in life..."
11:21 rangi @quote search mad
11:21 huginn rangi: 1 found: #94: "<chris> the more i explain, the more ppl know,..."
11:21 rangi @quote search fish
11:20 huginn rangi: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
11:20 rangi @list quote
11:20 huginn rangi: Admin, Alias, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, Dunno, Factoids, Filter, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, MARC, Math, MeetBot, Misc, News, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, Seen, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Weather
11:20 rangi @list
11:20 huginn rangi: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
11:20 rangi @help
11:20 huginn rangi: Error: There is no command "quote".
11:20 rangi @help quote
11:20 kf I now it's in there
11:20 kf *sighs*
11:19 huginn kf: Quote #80: "<robin> heh thanks, that makes me seem a lot more edumacated :)" (added by gmcharlt at 01:54 AM, June 24, 2010)
11:19 kf @quote random
11:19 huginn kf: Quote #14: "joetho: I only looked for missing ccodes- not dysfunctional orphans." (added by wizzyrea at 08:31 PM, July 09, 2009)
11:19 kf @quote random
11:19 huginn kf: Quote #97: "chris_n shakes his fist (again) in the direction of Redmond" (added by wizzyrea at 03:21 PM, October 08, 2010)
11:19 kf @quote random
11:19 huginn kf: Quote #63: "<jwagner> But no one expects the Spammish Inquisition!" (added by jdavidb at 01:50 PM, March 01, 2010)
11:19 kf @quote random
11:19 rangi gnight
11:19 kf sleep well
11:19 kf :)
11:19 rangi ok i have to go to sleep because someone was calculating pi on the server
11:19 huginn kf: Quote #50: "<pianohackr|work> It is a landmine, I tell you" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 04:44 PM, December 23, 2009)
11:19 kf @quote random
11:19 huginn kf: Quote #109: "<darling>yep — china kicks ass" (added by wizzyrea at 10:29 PM, December 01, 2010)
11:19 kf @quote random
11:19 huginn kf: I've exhausted my database of quotes
11:19 kf @quote
11:19 wahanui rangi: somebody was calculating pi on the server
11:19 rangi excuse
11:18 huginn rangi: Quote #88: "<owen> I'm a crazed branch-creating maniac" (added by jwagner at 07:42 PM, August 06, 2010)
11:18 rangi @quote random
11:18 huginn kf: Quote #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats" (added by chris at 08:18 PM, March 24, 2011)
11:18 kf @quote random
11:18 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
11:18 huginn kf: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
11:18 kf @quote
11:17 rangi sounds good
11:17 conan ok, I'll send a mail and start working on a simpler solution
11:17 francharb ;)
11:17 francharb kf: the weather is not that bad for pastis now but summer time is a better time, for sur!
11:17 conan they should be awake now...
11:16 rangi i think hdl or paul_p are your best bets
11:16 conan hum...
11:16 francharb hi kf
11:16 rangi conan: nahuel doesnt work there anymore
11:16 * conan looks left and right
11:16 conan anyone from biblibre around?
11:16 * rangi doesnt make all the decisions, i just get to decide what goes into a release
11:16 kf is the weather better for pastis now?
11:16 conan yes, from nahuel.angelinetti@biblibre.com
11:16 kf hi agan francharb :)
11:15 rangi and try to find out what they were wanting it to do
11:15 rangi if you want to, you can talk with biblibre about it, it was their bug
11:15 rangi yep, failed qa
11:15 conan I don't care for 3674 either, but it's there (or was)
11:15 rangi sure, but debar them
11:15 kf connected to fines
11:14 rangi but im not sure why you would want to block a user logging in
11:14 kf we have blocks for renewals, holds and checkouts
11:14 conan I'm concerned with 6220, but the thing grew bigger :|
11:14 rangi they could still use the opac
11:14 kf hm
11:14 rangi that just stops you being able to issue items to them
11:14 rangi kf: that doesnt stop login
11:13 conan I think that's what 3674 tried to implement
11:13 kf debar
11:13 kf why not block him?
11:13 kf hm
11:13 rangi its not a feature i want/need
11:13 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6268] Bad Total in basket.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6268>
11:13 rangi a disabled login would be fine
11:12 conan but maybe I'm overthinking all this
11:12 conan and that lead me to think that choosing '!' to mark one disabled could be dangerous in the future
11:12 conan so thinking about maintaining the original password lead me to think about a possible future modification on the way to encode the password
11:11 conan I thought this: what if we want the hability do mark enabled/disabled users? then what if after disabling we want to re-enable them? with the character we loose the original password, and have to generate a new one
11:10 conan but I endeed up with an over engineered function
11:10 rangi the character was ok, it was just the implementation was flawed, it was being md5d
11:10 conan I tried to make a general fix yesterday for 3674, 6220 and 6224, and to also implement Katrin fischer suggestion
11:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3674 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, REOPENED, Creating users with empty password
11:09 conan well, I'll try to make it short then: what would you prefer to mark a disabled password (bug 3674) a character or a new column in borrowers
11:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6143 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, New feature: capability to limit the RSS results
11:09 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 6143 : Fixing missing sysprefs
11:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #230: FIXED in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/230/
11:09 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
11:08 rangi just about to go to sleep, whats up?
11:08 conan rangi: you around?
11:07 conan hello everybody
10:42 kf unit_tests++
10:42 kf rangi++
10:39 kf hi druthb :)
10:29 jenkins_koha Starting build 230 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #228 1 h 48 mn ago)
10:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6143 : Fixing missing sysprefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aabd70a4bfd7742013fa22977530189a03c4d78b>
10:22 magnuse o/
10:19 rangi hi druthb
10:19 druthb howdy, #koha.
10:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6143 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, New feature: capability to limit the RSS results
10:01 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping the database number
10:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW, Creating new "child" category patrons - library not defaulting to the correct branch
10:01 jenkins_koha * Stéphane Delaune: Bug #6143 - New feature: capability to limit the RSS results
10:01 jenkins_koha * Ian Walls: Bug 3202: creating new 'child' categorytype patrons doesn't set branch properly
10:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #229: UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/229/
09:20 jenkins_koha Starting build 229 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6153 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Imprint subfields displayed out of order on OPAC
09:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6194 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Empty Parens on Serials pages
09:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6257 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, MARC documentation links cause javascript error
09:20 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 6153: Display imprint subfields in order
09:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6263 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, shelf browser doesn't work in 3.4
09:20 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6194 Suppress punctuation when no location
09:20 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6257: Fix broken MARC documentation links
09:20 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6263: shelf browser broken in 3.4
09:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #228: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/228/
08:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping the database number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb9c971e3e92c002242742787fbfa15228f462bc>
08:48 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug #6143 - New feature: capability to limit the RSS results <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=97362dd99e80c73125e132ac186a9f20c66447b9> / Bug 3202: creating new 'child' categorytype patrons doesn't set branch properly <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b08be41d41b2c974ed338d7ed3fff31ffcd848bf>
08:40 jenkins_koha Starting build 228 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6228 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Show active currency in system preferences
08:40 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Move nb-NO-i-staff-prog-v-3002000.po -> nb-NO-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po
08:40 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6228: Show active currency in system preferences
08:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #227: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/227/
08:39 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
08:39 rangi @later tell chris_n http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commits_to_cherry-pick_for_3.4
08:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6153: Display imprint subfields in order <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=694f0fbeaf1f6896fe476977786e561c78946986> / Bug 6194 Suppress punctuation when no location <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c13785fed0473fbf631b047c5d543cac121ef43> / Bug 6257: Fix broken MARC documentation links <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8aa1ba
08:37 magnuse kia ora rangi
08:36 rangi hi magnuse
08:36 magnuse morgen kf
08:35 mib_w3re62 :)
08:35 mib_w3re62 tc
08:35 mib_w3re62 thax kf for help
08:35 kf morning magnuse
08:20 pastebot "kf" at 193.197.29.135 pasted "select b.biblionumber, title," (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/25
08:18 kf I know how I would do it with sybase... but myswl, mom
08:16 kf t
08:16 kf ah no... it doesn
08:16 kf it shoudl list all
08:12 mib_w3re62 sorry cant
08:11 mib_w3re62 i can see biblionumber if there is no item with that record
08:10 mib_w3re62 can we list the record even if it doesnt have items
08:10 mib_w3re62 i guess above it right i can have single result for records
08:08 kf hm, group by biblionumber
08:06 kf order by biblionumber
08:06 kf group by biblionumber, itemcallnumber
08:06 kf from biblio b, items i where i.biblionumber = b.biblionumber
08:06 kf from items i2 where i2.biblionumber = b.biblionumber) as count
08:06 kf select b.biblionumber, title, itemcallnumber, (select count(*)
08:05 mib_w3re62 thax kf
08:04 kf I know where the problem is
08:04 mib_w3re62 ok
08:04 kf yep, let me try again
08:04 kf hm right
08:03 mib_w3re62 nop same
08:03 kf mib_w3re62: different callnumbers then I guess
07:59 jenkins_koha Starting build 227 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Move nb-NO-i-staff-prog-v-3002000.po -> nb-NO-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=00f5953924fe8f3082540c7f62d54c62e4125a86> / Bug 6228: Show active currency in system preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f453776ff8859cd3017d6de43a7e215845cf44e>
07:49 mib_w3re62 oopsss more time....when i see the output
07:49 mib_w3re62 not only double even 5 times
07:48 mib_w3re62 kf : with above sql i am having result bt i am having biblionumber appear double for some records
07:48 rangi hiya AmitG
07:48 kf hi AmitG
07:47 AmitG heya kf, rangi
07:47 glernil rangi: ok. thank you.
07:46 kf mib_w3re62: sorry, never tried to do that
07:46 mib_w3re62 act my server as z3950 server
07:46 kf :)
07:45 rangi pretty well i think
07:45 rangi hi kf
07:45 kf how did the training go?
07:44 kf hi rangi
07:44 kf do you want to act your installation as z3950 server or download records into koha using z3950?
07:44 rangi glernil: no one will be magically able to answer you, even if you ask the same question again and again, i suggest you ask on the mailing list
07:43 mib_w3re62 wht i need to do further for z3950 to make it work
07:41 mib_w3re62 bt doing this only i cant get my z3950 server worked
07:41 mib_w3re62 they told to comment out <listen id="biblioserver" >tcp:@:9999</listen>
07:41 mib_w3re62 i tried to configure z3950 server bt i found two options describe on many articles and talks....
07:40 mib_w3re62 can i ask u something abt z3950
07:39 kf np
07:38 mib_w3re62 :)
07:38 mib_w3re62 thax kf
07:35 glernil notices are not being created after upgrading to 3.04
07:35 glernil notices are not being created after upgrading to 3.04
07:35 kf :)
07:35 kf from my head
07:35 kf no
07:35 mib_w3re62 is this from wiki??
07:35 kf not necessarily, depends how yourl ibrary works with callnumbers
07:34 mib_w3re62 i guess call number will be same for all items with same record
07:33 mib_w3re62 ok
07:33 kf could be a problem if you have different callnumbers for items on one record
07:33 kf ah...
07:32 kf not the most elegant solution perhaps but it works
07:32 kf from biblio b, items i where i.biblionumber = b.biblionumber
07:32 kf from items i2 where i2.biblionumber = b.biblionumber)
07:32 kf select b.biblionumber, title, itemcallnumber, (select count(*)
07:32 mib_w3re62 can anyone help me???pleas
07:29 kf hm
07:28 mib_w3re62 1, History of Nepal , 35 WB 2005 , 5
07:27 mib_w3re62 biblionumber , title, callnumber , items count
07:27 mib_w3re62 something like table with :
07:25 mib_w3re62 I want to list the records with details along with number of items with each records
07:22 mib_w3re62 but i cant find wht i needed on wiki
07:22 mib_w3re62 yea
07:21 kf have you seen the sql reports libraray on the wiki?
07:21 kf mib_w3re62: what do you want to do?
07:21 kf hi francharb :)
07:18 francharb hello all
07:15 mib_w3re62 ?
07:13 mib_w3re62 hello anyone can help me with koha sql report?
07:11 kf good morning #koha
06:59 magnuse bbl
06:59 magnuse glernil: sorry, i'm out of ideas
06:49 alex_a bonjour #koha
06:48 glernil magnuse: yes there is
06:47 glernil http://www.vimalkumar.oksociety.in/node/29
06:47 glernil i followed the steps in this link
06:44 magnuse glernil: do you have something like KOHA_CRON_PATH = /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs in your crontab?
06:43 glernil Apr 26 14:42:30 koha32-virtualbox /usr/bin/crontab[4123]: (koha32) LIST (koha32)
06:43 glernil Apr 26 14:42:21 koha32-virtualbox /usr/bin/crontab[4101]: (koha32) LIST (koha32)
06:43 glernil Apr 26 14:42:12 koha32-virtualbox /usr/bin/crontab[4095]: (koha32) LIST (koha32)
06:43 glernil Apr 26 14:42:08 koha32-virtualbox Koha Zebraqueue [786]: Executing zebra operations
06:43 glernil Apr 26 14:42:08 koha32-virtualbox Koha Zebraqueue [786]: 1 operations waiting to be run
06:43 glernil Apr 26 14:42:03 koha32-virtualbox /usr/bin/crontab[4085]: (koha32) LIST (koha32)
06:43 glernil Apr 26 14:42:02 koha32-virtualbox Koha Zebraqueue [786]: Executing zebra operations
06:43 glernil Apr 26 14:42:02 koha32-virtualbox Koha Zebraqueue [786]: 1 operations waiting to be run
06:43 glernil Apr 26 14:42:01 koha32-virtualbox CRON[4080]: (koha32) CMD ($KOHA_CRON_PATH/process_message_queue.pl # JOB_ID_2)
06:42 eythian but I have no systems that do it that way to check
06:42 eythian err
06:42 eythian I'm wondering if it's a but suspicious that the variable is in the pathname and not expanded by cron, but
06:42 magnuse $KOHA_CRON_PATH should probably not show up there?
06:42 eythian is there a line after that?
06:41 glernil Apr 26 14:42:01 koha32-virtualbox CRON[4080]: (koha32) CMD ($KOHA_CRON_PATH/process_message_queue.pl # JOB_ID_2)
06:39 eythian I'd start by looking in the cron job logs to see that they are running.
06:38 eythian glernil: yep, which suggests that either the cron jobs are not running, are failing, or that they're running but doing nothing for some reason.
06:38 glernil AmitG: i think the problem is that the system does not generate notices to be sent since the message-queue table has no entry
06:37 glernil eythian: i think the problem is that the system does not generate notices to be sent since the message-queue table has no entry
06:37 cait bbl
06:37 cait and have to go
06:37 cait sorry, no idea at the moment
06:36 glernil cait: i think the problem is that the system does not generate notices to be sent
06:36 glernil i think the problem is that the system does not generate notices to be sent
06:34 glernil yes i have checkin and checkout notices
06:34 cait and after that I am out of ideas too :(
06:34 cait you should have CHECKIN and CHECKOUT in module circulation
06:33 cait CHECKIN?
06:31 glernil i have 17 types of notices
06:31 cait yes
06:30 glernil cait: notices are defined under tools > notices?
06:29 glernil cait: yes definitely.. they have emails
06:25 cait does your borrower have an email address?
06:25 cait glernil: are notices defined under administration > notices?
06:25 eythian Don't really know beyond that sorry
06:21 glernil and i checked item checkout and item check in in the Default messaging preferences for a specific patron
06:21 glernil i enabled the enhanced messaging in the patrons tab
06:19 eythian also, any errors showing up in the cron logs?
06:18 eythian hmm, not sure. Patron categories set to send overdues?
06:17 glernil item circulation alerts are all green
06:16 glernil where should i check?
06:12 eythian glernil: OK, that suggests that your messages aren't being generated. Have you checked through the rules to see if stuff has changed that might be causing them to not happen?
06:11 cait glernil: did you update and it worked before?
06:11 glernil eythian: there are no new messages inside the table message_queue
06:10 cait I use a saved report, but I don't think there is a built in access to the whole list
06:10 eythian cait: I was thinking that there was something that showed you the whole list. I guess I just use the database.
06:10 glernil yes... no more errors in my inbox
06:09 magnuse glernil: and did that get rid of the "Can't locate C4/Letters.pm in @INC" messages?
06:08 glernil magnuse: i already did that.
06:06 cait eythian: the messaging/notices tab in patron account
06:05 eythian hmm, maybe the viewing of the message logs is a figment of my imagaination...
06:03 magnuse see lines 21 and 22 here: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/cronjobs/crontab.example;h=b43d377280e2e0643021f8fd0a1a105acba8f243;hb=HEAD
06:03 eythian Oh, I missed that one. Yeah, that'll make a difference.
06:03 magnuse glernil: you said you got "Can't locate C4/Letters.pm in @INC"? that might mean you need to set some variable in your crontab
06:01 glernil i just can't see what is the main problem here but when i check the account of the user after checking out there is no notice being sent
06:01 eythian yeah, if you're handy to the database, have a look in message_queue
06:00 * eythian checks
06:00 AmitG message_queue table
06:00 eythian I think there's a way through the UI...
06:00 eythian (i.e. is the problem sending email, or generating emails)
06:00 glernil how can i see if it goes there?
06:00 eythian glernil: are messages getting into the messages table?
06:00 glernil i can send email using the command line and i already used the crontab. xample
05:59 glernil i'm using ssmtp as my MTA and my smtp server is gmail.
05:59 AmitG postfix or sendmail
05:59 AmitG glernil u installed your mail server
05:58 glernil after I installed the latest version (3.04) koha can't send notification emails to patrons
05:57 glernil hello
05:57 AmitG heya glernil
05:55 glernil after i installed the latest version (3.04) koha can't send notification emails to patrons
05:54 eythian cait: it was nice and quiet
05:54 glernil good day!
05:52 AmitG heya all
05:33 cait hm
05:22 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6190] Custom field removal from patron entry screens <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6190>
05:09 cait how was the long weekend?
05:00 cait cool
04:50 eythian sure. I'll do that tomorrow.
04:50 cait if you make one I coud link some of the old and ugly things to it
04:49 cait hi eythian :)
04:49 eythian cait: there isn't one yet, I should make one though.
04:48 * eythian packages some of Koha's newer dependencies...
04:40 Brooke_ bid!
04:32 cait hi hdl
04:32 hdl hi cait
04:20 Oak hi cait :) hi koha
04:20 cait hi Brooke_ and Oak :)
04:20 Oak oh thanks
04:20 Brooke_ likewise
04:20 Oak Hello Brooke_ :) good to see you
04:19 Brooke_ hey oak
04:19 * Brooke_ waves to cait
03:28 druthb o/
03:28 AmitG heya brooke
03:27 Brooke_ hey there
03:27 AmitG heya all
03:09 Brooke_ you are beating the roosters to dawn.
03:09 hdl Well.
03:08 hdl hi Brooke_.
03:08 Brooke_ Ça va?
03:07 * Brooke_ smiles.
02:54 Brooke_ 0/
02:44 Brooke_ 0/
02:29 gmcharlt how frequently to run process_message_queue.pl? every few minutes or so
02:26 glernil how frequent?
02:25 glernil oops.. how?
02:25 gmcharlt glernil: make sure you set PERL5LIB in the crontab
02:24 glernil I can send email message through the commandline
02:23 glernil BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/koha32/process_message_queue.pl line 28.
02:23 glernil Can't locate C4/Letters.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /home/koha32/process_message_queue.pl line 28.
02:23 glernil i'm recieving the following message in my gmail inbox
02:22 glernil i already added process_message_queue to the crontab which i set every hour
02:21 glernil I have ssmtp as my MTA and gmail as my email server
02:21 glernil I'm configuring koha to send notifications to patrons upon checking in and checking out an item but i'm stuck with a problem
02:20 glernil good day!
01:22 druthb o/
01:06 huginn brendan_: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 22.4�C (6:07 PM PDT on April 25, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect until 9 PM PDT this evening...
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00:40 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 12:11 PM, July 27, 2009)
00:40 gmcharlt @quote random