Time  Nick           Message
02:38 druthb         o/
04:33 sunb           i just checked koha 3.4
04:34 sunb           i was waiting for this version as it will support adding bound volumes
04:34 sunb           but release does not give any details of it does this version support adding bound volumes into database
04:38 kmkale         Namaskar #koha
04:41 sunb           hi koustubha
04:42 sunb           i was waiting for koha 3.4 to check whether it allows to add bound volumes
04:42 sunb           do u have any idea
04:47 kmkale         no sunb
05:02 rangi          sunb: do you catalogue those with analytic records?
05:03 sunb           we havent yet done that
05:03 rangi          if you do, you can catalogue them that way in koha
05:04 sunb           ok but i was under impression that with 3.4 it will allow to club together loose issues from serials and then bound them and give accession number
05:04 rangi          sure
05:04 rangi          you of course have to do that manually, but you can link them together using the record control number
05:05 rangi          where did you get the impression it would bind for you?
05:06 sunb           http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Binding_loose_issues
05:06 rangi          yep, no one wrote that, if it had been worked on it would have a bugnumber attached
05:08 sunb           is there any documentation available for giving link to record number and adding bound volumes in analytical entry
05:08 rangi          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5959
05:08 huginn         04Bug 5959: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add search link for analytics to serial records
05:11 rangi          you probably want to ask katrin
05:12 rangi          or email the koha-devel list
05:24 kmkale         sunb = Sunita Barve?
05:25 rangi          there is this also
05:25 rangi          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5528
05:25 huginn         04Bug 5528: enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Analytical records support
05:25 rangi          but it wasnt tested/signed off so isn't in 3.4.0
05:25 rangi          well it was tested, and had some suggestions made, but those werent finished off, so it missed the feature freeze
05:29 jenkins_koha   Starting build 226 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
05:29 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 2941 Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=091cd69f44e871990d511917d4aa93960fea567f>
06:09 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #226: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/226/
06:09 jenkins_koha   Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 2941 Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated
06:10 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2941 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated.
06:21 cait           good morning #koha
07:05 rangi          hi cait
07:06 rangi          do you eat hot cross buns on easter friday in germany?
07:06 rangi          because im still full from the ones i ate last night :)
07:07 rangi          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_cross_bun
07:57 rangi          wb cait
08:00 cait           hi rangi
08:01 cait           hm, we have some easter pastries and buns, but I don't know those
08:04 cait           rangi: I used to bake easter lamps for my family, looking like these: http://www.hagenhoffmann.de/sonstiges/ostern/bildosterlamm2.jpg
08:04 cait           lambs... not lamps
08:08 rangi          mm lamb
08:08 kmkale         :)
08:09 cait           :)
10:22 cait           @wunder Konstanz
10:22 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.5�C (12:20 PM CEST on April 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady).
10:57 druthb         good day, #koha.
11:04 cait           hi druthb :)
11:21 kmkale         hi druthb :)
14:27 jcamins_away   Anyone here know about OPAC item suppression?
15:54 * jcamins_away waves to cait
15:54 * cait         waves back
17:03 druthb         o/
17:05 jcamins_away   Hello.
17:07 * jcamins_away continues his battle with data corruption.
18:32 cait           hi #koha
18:32 jcamins_away   Hi cait.
18:32 cait           hi jcamins_away :)
18:32 cait           have you baked something for easter?
18:33 jcamins_away   cait: I'm Jewish. ;)
18:33 cait           oh
18:33 cait           :)
18:34 jcamins_away   Did you do any baking for Easter?
18:34 cait           no
18:34 cait           when I was living in Reutlingen I did
18:35 cait           when I had a real oven! not this small something
18:35 cait           :)
18:35 cait           so nothing special on the menu today? you always produce so yummy sounding things
18:37 jcamins_away   I might bake something, even though it's Passover.
18:38 cait           Passover?
18:38 jcamins_away   = Passah in German
18:39 jcamins_away   = пасха еврейская in Russian.
18:39 jcamins_away   = פסח in Hebrew
18:40 jcamins_away   = Pâque in French
18:40 * jcamins_away tries to think of the word in other languages
18:41 cait           ah
18:41 cait           pessach
18:42 jcamins_away   Yup. :)
18:42 cait           now that you remind me - the hfjs had closed all last week
18:45 jcamins_away   I'm not surprised.
18:45 cait           yep
18:52 cait           I thought you ere asking about opac suppression?
18:52 cait           saw...
18:52 jcamins_away   I was, but I figured it out.
18:53 cait           ok
18:54 cait           opacsuppression or the new feature?
18:54 jcamins_away   Opacsuppression.
18:55 jcamins_away   Okay, I should eat some lunch now.
18:55 jcamins_away   Back in a few.
18:55 cait           ok
18:55 cait           same here - but dinner
18:55 cait           :)
19:02 cait           hi magnuse :)
19:02 magnuse        hiya cait
19:02 * magnuse      is just dropping by
19:03 cait           how is holidays?
19:04 magnuse        very nice - nice ad quiet
19:04 magnuse        and had some lovely weather today - sun and warmth and no wind!
19:04 cait           :)
19:04 magnuse        @wunder bodo, norway
19:04 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (8:50 PM CEST on April 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
19:04 cait           very sunny here too
19:04 magnuse        and you?
19:04 cait           we need some rain though
19:04 cait           @wunder Konstanz
19:04 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0�C (9:00 PM CEST on April 23, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
19:04 magnuse        oh wow!
19:05 cait           yep
19:05 cait           very warm april
19:06 * cait         waves
19:06 magnuse        o/
19:07 magnuse        we could use some of that heat - got a taste of it today :-)
19:08 magnuse        hm, i find myself not quite understanding the translations - in Pootle nb-NO says 100% done for the 3.4 opac, but there are definitely strings in the 3.4 opac that are not translated...
19:09 cait           yes
19:09 cait           I think the files are probably not updated for TT
19:09 cait           compare to the German opac file
19:10 magnuse        you have 100% for opac, 60 for staff and 99 for sysprefs?
19:11 magnuse        which is weird too - the staff translation for nb-NO has not been touched in a long while and it's at 75%, way more than your german?
19:11 cait           hm
19:11 magnuse        are you saying nb-NO are not updated for TT, or all of the langauages?
19:11 cait           not sure about that
19:12 cait           I uploaded the opac file myself
19:13 cait           hm looks like that is an updated file
19:13 cait           not sure if frederic only completed German
19:14 cait           hm
19:14 cait           my staff file is a lot bigger than yours
19:14 magnuse        hm, i'll bug him about it after the holidays
19:14 magnuse        ah, that would explain the lower percentage
19:15 magnuse        you generated .po files yourself ad uploaded to pootle?
19:15 cait           I did a lot of translation testing and rangi fixed a lot of things
19:16 cait           to test it right I updated the files a lot and did a complete translation of opac
19:16 cait           to check if everything gets translated
19:16 magnuse        cait++
19:16 magnuse        :-)
19:17 druthb         cait++
19:17 cait           args :)
19:17 cait           @karma cait
19:17 huginn         cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 91 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 91.
19:18 cait           you know, that's dangerous what you are doing there
19:18 druthb         what...giving you credit for being awesome?
19:19 magnuse        ye
19:19 magnuse        yeah, give credit where credit is due, i say!
19:21 * cait         hides and takes the cookies with her
19:21 druthb1        hee hee
19:22 magnuse        hey druthb you got the replication working?!? ;-)
19:24 cait           I hope she will share the secret with us
19:24 cait           I could make great use of replicates right now
19:25 * magnuse      has the image of the sorcerers apprentice from fantasia in his minds eye
19:25 cait           hm
19:25 cait           I thoroughly cleaned this place today
19:25 cait           no water buckets!
19:26 magnuse        yay!
19:29 druthb1        I thought I did, maybe, but apparently not.
19:29 cait           oh...
19:36 * magnuse      is off to watch Lewis - english crime investigations at it's best ;-)
19:36 magnuse        sa ya later folks!
19:36 magnuse        s/sa/see/
19:36 cait           cya
19:52 * jcamins_away curses
19:53 * jcamins_away curses more vigorously
19:54 * jcamins_away curses with shocking creativity
19:56 * druthb1      puts her hands over cait's ears.
19:57 cait           huh?
19:57 * cait         looks at your moving lips confusedly
19:58 jcamins_away   My reindex went through 241000 of 120593 records, then threw an error.
19:59 druthb         eeeewwww
20:00 * cait         tries to read lips
20:06 jcamins_away   Oh, mystery solved.
20:06 druthb         ?
20:06 jcamins_away   hardlinks.
20:06 jcamins_away   Zebra read both exported_records files.
20:07 jcamins_away   Even though they were identical.
20:07 druthb         oh
20:17 jcamins_away   GRS-1--
20:23 * cait         can't follow
20:23 cait           cookie?
20:24 jcamins_away   Please!
20:24 druthb         making_jcamins_giggle++
20:25 * cait         sends jcamins a cookie
20:25 jcamins_away   cait++ # for cookies
20:25 jcamins_away   druthb++ # for saving me lots of puzzling
20:27 druthb         :)
20:28 cait           druthb++
20:28 * druthb       blushes
20:28 cait           I think she beats cookies
20:28 * jcamins_away might need to make cookies, even though it's Passover.
20:30 * druthb       blushes and hides.
20:30 jcamins_away   Uhhh... where did the delete_records_without_items script come from?
20:30 jcamins_away   Did I write that?
20:30 druthb         possibly I did; I've used it several places.
20:31 cait           druthb: don't say you are adapting my bad habits ;)
20:31 druthb         I won't say it, then.
20:32 druthb         jcamins_away: looking at the first few lines should show--unless you copied one of my scripts for its' DNA
20:32 jcamins_away   That's why I'm confused... it's copyright ByWater, but it doesn't have your name, and it does have perldoc.
20:32 druthb         then it's not me.
20:33 jcamins_away   Probably not sekjal, either, based on the perldoc.
20:33 cait           perldoc?
20:34 jcamins_away   You know, inline documentation.
20:35 * druthb       is REAL bad about not doing good docs.
20:37 * jcamins_away resists the urge to just try the MySQL-only solution.
20:37 jcamins_away   SQL is more fun that Perl.
20:37 druthb         to delete empty bibs?
20:38 jcamins_away   No, that was an aside.
20:38 druthb         oh, okay.
20:38 druthb         'bout to say--if you are gonna reindex anyway, the SQL answer works Just Fine.
20:40 jcamins_away   Oh, for crying out loud!
20:40 jcamins_away   "Error: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /home/jcamins/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 450."
20:42 * druthb       puts on the hazmat suit, and hands a spare to jcamins_away.
20:43 druthb         if you're gonna be looking at Search.pm....
20:43 cait           lol
20:44 jcamins_away   CURSE YOU, ZEBRA!!!
20:45 * jcamins_away reindexes again.
20:50 * druthb       starts her Data Crunching playlist on iTunes.
20:50 * jcamins_away decides to print out a picture of a Zebra and fling darts at it.
20:50 jcamins_away   Or possibly burn it in effigy.
20:51 jcamins_away   I appreciate that most of our problems stem from poor configuration, but the absolute lack of useful diagnostic information, and the tendency to crash and burn, is definitely a fundamental design flaw.
20:58 druthb         hi, space_librarian! :D
20:59 cait           hi space_librarian
21:10 jcamins_away   Does anyone happen to know if information about frameworks is stored anywhere other than marc_subfield_structure and marc_tag_structure?
21:11 jcamins_away   And biblio_framework.
21:12 cait           hm
21:12 cait           seems a complete list tome
21:12 cait           what are you missing?
21:12 jcamins_away   I haven't tried it yet.
21:12 jcamins_away   Just thought I'd check.
21:12 jcamins_away   In case someone knew something I didn't.
21:12 cait           should be all
21:16 cait           hm
21:17 jcamins_away   Well, that seems to work.
21:19 cait           I truncate them all when I load german frameworks
21:19 cait           works perfectly
21:25 * druthb       hands cait the Velcro
21:25 cait           thx :)
21:30 jcamins_away   Okay, it has reindexed.
21:30 jcamins_away   Except it's not done.
21:31 jcamins_away   Grr.
21:34 jcamins_away   Well, it's doing something.
21:34 jcamins_away   That's progress.
21:34 jcamins_away   Apparently disabling shadow indexing doesn't actually disable shadow indexing.
21:35 pianohacker    Hello
21:36 jcamins_away   Hello.
21:36 jcamins_away   Could updating the register from the shadow take any longer?
21:38 jcamins_away   It's done!
21:39 jcamins_away   pianohacker: how's your semester going?
21:39 cait           hi pianohacker :)
21:39 * druthb       waves to pianohacker.
21:39 pianohacker    Very busy, as it's finally ending
21:39 pianohacker    Hi cait, druthb
21:39 pianohacker    Lots of tests and projects and papers due
21:39 pianohacker    But soon it will be over, glory hallelujah
21:40 pianohacker    How are you guys?
21:40 jcamins_away   :)
21:40 * jcamins_away has five papers to write, though only one is due next week.
21:41 jcamins_away   (so I can sympathize)
21:43 cait           only a presentation
21:44 * cait         imagines having to write 5 papers and shuders
21:47 * druthb       is working on two new Koha libraries, plus one more for mid-week...and a presentation that's a bit more than a week away.
21:49 * jcamins_away swears off of JOIN USING ()
21:50 cait           jcamins: I am a little worried about you
21:50 jcamins_away   cait: why?
21:51 cait           lots of -- and swearing and cursing today
21:51 * jcamins_away is not having a very good day.
21:51 jcamins_away   He has been trying to reindex a 120k-record install for 10 hours.
21:52 cait           hmwaht about taking a break, rethink your problem and bake cookies? ;)
21:52 jcamins_away   Well, more, if you count the fact that I spent four hours on it yesterday, and I have tried reindexing it every day since Tuesday.
21:53 pianohacker    What's wrong with it?
21:53 jcamins_away   pianohacker: a whole slew of things.
21:54 jcamins_away   First there were 8 corrupted records.
21:54 jcamins_away   Then the system stopped booting.
21:55 jcamins_away   Then the indexer refused to behave.
21:55 pianohacker    Oi. How did they get corrupted?
21:55 pianohacker    well, zebraidx is always a pain
21:55 jcamins_away   Unfortunately, I have no idea.
21:56 jcamins_away   Well, two of them were caused by UTF-8 in the call numbers.
21:56 jcamins_away   The other 6? No idea.
21:57 pianohacker    Unicode call numbers? That's bizarre
21:58 jcamins_away   Yep.
21:58 cait           why?
21:58 jcamins_away   I think they copy-pasted the title into the call number field.
21:58 * cait         have seen umlauts in callnumbers a lot
21:58 cait           has..
21:59 pianohacker    I think they're usually restricted to ASCII, especially in the states, though Ü makes sense in germany
22:00 cait           jcamins: but I think koha can handle that - utf-8 in callnumbers?
22:02 jcamins_away   cait: It's supposed to be able to.