Time Nick Message 00:02 rangi yes filter is broken for me too 00:02 rangi will look into the code tha generates it now 00:04 cait hm, seems both use a function from c4? 00:05 rangi my %supplierlist = GetBooksellersWithLateOrders($delay); 00:05 rangi i thik its only getting ones that do have late orders? 00:06 cait hm 00:06 cait but if it does that 00:06 cait it dos not mach 00:06 cait if a search with delay 0 will bring up orders - it shoudl bring up the vendortoo? 00:06 cait fill the list I mean with the vendors in my search results 00:06 cait perhaps it's one day off? 00:07 rangi could be lemme check the actual code 00:09 cait ok - the list in serials will only work when you have a vendor with a missing or late issue 00:09 cait so only acq remains 00:09 rangi ELECT DISTINCT aqbasket.booksellerid, aqbooksellers.name FROM aqorders LEFT JOIN aqbasket ON aqorders.basketno=aqbasket.basketno LEFT JOIN aqbooksellers ON aqbasket.booksellerid = aqbooksellers.id 00:09 rangi WHERE (closdate < DATE_SUB(CURDATE( ),INTERVAEL $delay DAY) AND (datereceived = '' OR datereceived IS NULL)) 00:10 rangi i hate that query 00:10 rangi but thats what it does currently 00:10 cait ugh 00:10 rangi so you need to have closed an order 00:10 rangi try that 00:10 rangi also INTERVAEL 00:10 cait I have to closed baskets? 00:10 rangi thats not gonna work 00:10 cait s/to/2 00:10 rangi ahh that was a paste ting 00:10 rangi yeah, try closing one 00:11 rangi see if that makes it show up 00:11 cait what do you mean by closing? 00:11 cait my baskets are closed 00:11 rangi hmm 00:11 cait hm... perhaps close the group too? 00:11 rangi actually in the db 00:11 rangi can you change the closedate to last year 00:11 cait but that would mean that libraries leaving them open cannever use late orders? 00:12 rangi yes, it seems like a bug to me 00:12 rangi but not a new one i dont think 00:13 rangi definitely nice to fix, maybe for 3.4.1 00:13 cait hm k 00:15 cait ok 00:15 cait I closed the basket after midnight 00:15 rangi ahh yeah that would do it 00:15 cait created it before, but basket groups was almost the last thing I tested 00:15 rangi you should be abble to change it in the db 00:16 cait yep. that's it 00:16 rangi update table aqbasket set closedate = '2010-10-10'; 00:16 rangi cool 00:16 rangi lemme check the serials now 00:16 cait no, that's ok too - see above 00:16 cait it requires late or missing issues 00:16 cait :) 00:16 cait so both mysteries are solved 00:16 rangi ah ha 00:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #221: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/221/ 00:16 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Fixing typo in the release notes 00:16 rangi yay 00:17 cait oh 00:17 cait ok 00:17 cait a last one 00:17 cait my budget table has vanished again 00:18 rangi thats weird alright 00:18 cait and can't edit or delete my funds 00:18 cait I am not superlibrarian but have all acq permissions 00:18 cait and I am not kohaadmin 00:19 cait ok 00:19 cait kohaadmin can see the table and edit the funds 00:20 rangi i think its to do with the owner? 00:20 cait hm, but they are not owned 00:20 cait not restricted in any way 00:21 rangi hmm made by your superlibrarian or made by kohaadmin? 00:21 cait checking next 00:22 cait superlibraian permission gives me the edit links for funds but the table is still missing 00:23 cait I changed the budget_owner id to 1 00:24 cait my admin user, didn't change 00:25 rangi hmmm 00:25 rangi i have a suspiciion 00:26 rangi hmm no thats wrong 00:27 rangi table is showing for me 00:28 cait hm. 00:29 cait I have one active budget and 2 funds - no restriction no owner and no library 00:30 rangi confusing 00:30 cait hm ok 00:31 cait it seems you have to select a library 00:31 cait that seems wrong to me when the budget is not restricted to the library 00:32 cait it's ok 00:32 cait I will think more about it - but I can mak ethem show up 00:33 rangi right 00:35 cait when do you commit the trnaslations? 00:37 rangi lemme check if frederic has pushed them up 00:38 rangi nope not yet 00:38 cait thinking about uploading my opac file 00:39 rangi id do it 00:39 rangi he hasnt committed them to to a branch yet for me to pull 00:39 rangi so if you do that, they should be in there 00:40 cait hm ok, feeling brave 00:43 cait merge working? 00:44 cait or better overwrite 00:46 rangi overwrite i think 00:47 cait ... overwriting 00:49 cait hm 00:49 cait looks like it worked 00:49 cait :) 00:49 cait time to brush teeth and get ready to sleep 00:50 rangi sleep well, thanks for all your help 00:53 druthb cait++ 00:53 cait thx for all your work rangi 00:53 cait rangi++ 00:53 druthb rangi++ 00:53 cait and even more because you taught me most things! 00:59 cait rangi? 00:59 wahanui rangi is, like, a proud MÄori whose sense of humour matches his prowess in coding 01:01 rangi who did tha? 01:01 rangi t 01:02 cait not me 01:02 * wizzyrea_away is not it 01:02 cait prowess is not in my active vocabulary 01:02 rangi heh 01:02 cait nor in the inactive 01:03 cait given that... I have a suspicion 01:04 cait wizzyrea? 01:04 wahanui wizzyrea is, like, a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet 01:04 cait :) 01:04 * wizzyrea_away looks vaguely in the direction of DC 01:04 wizzyrea_away i'm honored that someone thought it apt to make that my description 01:05 wizzyrea_away as any parent does, I do the best I can :P 01:15 druthb :) 01:15 druthb rangi, I suspect Brooke_ 01:16 druthb Certainly I suspect her on my description. 01:16 druthb druthb? 01:16 wahanui you are one fine number in a skirt. 01:16 wizzyrea_away whoever it was speaks only truth ;) 01:17 druthb I am *soooo* torn over what to wear to KUDOS, wizzy.. sheesh. 01:18 cait one fine number sounds def like Brooke_ 01:18 cait and prowess too 01:20 druthb hm. 01:20 druthb kf? 01:20 wahanui well, kf is the kind of person that will brighten everyone's day. 01:20 druthb cait? 01:20 wahanui i heard cait was a competent programmer AND really sweet. 01:20 cait wahanui botsnack cookie 01:20 wahanui :) 01:20 cait he only says that because I feed him so many cookies :) 01:21 druthb brendan_? 01:21 wahanui brendan_ is a big fan of koha or the best boss evar! 01:21 druthb tee hee 01:22 cait sekjal? 01:22 wahanui sekjal is a wonderful geek. 01:22 rangi yeah 01:22 druthb :D 01:22 rangi cait: are you still brushing your teeth??? 01:22 cait no 01:23 rangi sleep! 01:23 cait closing all those windows on my computer 01:23 rangi :) 01:23 gmcharlt cait++ 01:24 druthb wahanui: Brooke_? 01:24 wahanui Brooke_ is the best dinner companion a girl could want. 01:29 jenkins_koha Starting build 222 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping version number for release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9f0c16ba51bc9be95809e52e0b8ff73dd60943e> 01:35 druthb rangi, congratulations. :) 01:35 cait1 ? 01:35 rangi still getting ready 01:35 * cait1 is excited 01:35 rangi but yeah im at the time to stop poking at it point 01:39 * druthb waves 01:52 * cait1 waves 01:53 cait1 really tired now 01:53 cait1 bye rangi 02:08 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #222: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/222/ 02:08 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bumping version number for release 02:13 gmcharlt jenkins is happy 02:15 rangi yep tis a good sign 02:24 rangi http://pastebin.com/1URw7Tvs 02:24 rangi pretty much ready to go, just need the .po files 02:26 gmcharlt rangi: want typo corrections for the release notes? 02:26 rangi yes please 02:26 gmcharlt s/one off/one-off/ 02:27 gmcharlt s/Notify of fines owing/Notification of fines owed/ 02:28 gmcharlt s/when an staff/when a staff/ 02:28 gmcharlt ... 02:28 * brendan_ will look it over too :) 02:28 gmcharlt would you rather I just sent a patch? :) 02:28 rangi gmcharlt: actutaly yeah :-) 02:28 rangi thanks brendan_ 02:28 gmcharlt sec 02:31 brendan_ line 90 - (a space is needed here -->) phone,address 02:32 gmcharlt got it 02:33 brendan_ same thing here line 113 --> the'My Summary' 02:33 gmcharlt got it 02:33 brendan_ heh should we comment on the differences between 's' and 'z' ;) 02:34 gmcharlt let's not be ugly Americans now ;) 02:34 brendan_ "SQL is formatted much more nicely when viewing a report" line 129 02:34 brendan_ maybe something else besides much more 02:35 brendan_ how about SQL formatting improvements when viewing a report? 02:35 gmcharlt sounds good 02:38 brendan_ I like that it reads D Ruth now :) 02:38 gmcharlt :) 02:38 brendan_ line 399 --> please send patch against 02:38 brendan_ maybe an 'a' in there 02:38 gmcharlt got it 02:39 brendan_ Looks good :) 02:40 gmcharlt rangi: patch sent 02:40 rangi thanks 02:44 jenkins_koha Starting build 223 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:44 gmcharlt heh 02:45 rangi if this patch breaks it ... :) 02:45 gmcharlt jenkins_koha: I don't think you need be *that* worried about changes to the release notes. I promise I didn't slip in any blockers 02:45 jenkins_koha gmcharlt did you mean me? Unknown command 'I' 02:45 jenkins_koha Use !jenkinshelp to get help! 02:45 wizzyrea_away you didnt delete any Data::Dumper's? 02:45 rangi heh 02:45 gmcharlt you wound me, madam 02:45 gmcharlt ;) 02:46 wizzyrea_away :) 02:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: textual improvements to release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d4673523d36825806df0ba3827c5139e0c82e53> 03:06 kmkale Namaskar #koha 03:06 rangi hi kmkale 03:09 kmkale hi rangi 03:09 kmkale holiday today? 03:10 rangi technically :) 03:10 kmkale yep. same here ;) 03:14 kmkale rangi: is there some material I can read about CAS with koha? 03:15 kmkale I have got a CAS server running. 03:15 rangi probably best to talk to the biblibre people 03:15 kmkale but when I try koha cas auth I get CAS is unavailable 03:18 rangi ive never tried it 03:20 kmkale inconsistent behaviour. Now I am getting Sorry, the CAS login failed. but in the cas debug log I can see the auth was successful and that both the SGT and ST tickets were created :( 03:20 kmkale s/SGT/TGT/ 03:22 rangi what version of koha? 03:22 rangi i know biblibre did some fixes/enhancements for 3.4 03:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #223: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/223/ 03:23 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: textual improvements to release notes 03:24 kmkale 3.02.06.000 03:25 rangi ahh they didnt get signed off 03:25 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6012 03:25 huginn 04Bug 6012: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED, Set up a working example of a CAS proxy 03:26 rangi checkout the patch there, it might help 03:26 kmkale thanks rangi 03:27 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5630 03:27 huginn 04Bug 5630: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, CAS improvements 03:27 rangi maybe that one too 03:32 kmkale rangi: is http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=3813&action=diff this a coombined patch of the propposed patches in 5630? 03:34 rangi not sure 03:34 kmkale k 03:35 rangi doesnt look like it 03:35 rangi it looks like you need to apply all of them in sequence 03:37 kmkale whoa I just logged out of the staff interface and got to CAS logout successful page 03:38 kmkale now if only it can login ;) 03:39 kmkale CAS works for staff interface too? 03:40 rangi never tried it 03:41 kmkale good fun for the long weekend ;) 03:54 * kmkale is confused about this statement in the wiki "Note: simple sso cas support (no proxy) has been done already by biblibre, is in testing and should be released in Koha 3.2" 03:55 rangi yes you will need to talk to them about how to do it 04:05 kmkale yep 04:05 kmkale lets hope they come in today 04:08 rangi probably emailing the koha-devel list is the easiest way 04:09 * jcamins_away peeks in. Exciting times. 04:09 rangi hey jcamins_away 04:09 rangi i had a question for you 04:09 jcamins_away Oh? 04:09 rangi you did some work letting zebra hand back xml? or am i imagining that? 04:10 jcamins_away Imagining it. 04:10 jcamins_away Sorry. 04:10 rangi dang 04:10 jcamins_away That'd be really useful, though. 04:10 rangi yep 04:10 * jcamins_away 's goal for 3.6 is getting DOM indexing for MARC21 biblios. 04:11 rangi cool 04:11 rangi thatd be good 04:12 jcamins_away Especially for people who want to be able to search for books printed by a particular individual. 04:12 * jcamins_away looks around... oh, I guess that's just me. 04:13 jcamins_away Well, I _really_ want to be able to do that, anyway. 04:13 jcamins_away So we're at, what, T-4? 04:14 Oak \o 04:14 rangi yep 04:15 rangi just gotta get the updated po files everything else is ready to g 04:15 rangi o 04:17 Oak : 04:17 Oak ) 04:33 rangi bbiab 04:33 jcamins_away Okay, reindex is a go, and now it is time to sleep. 04:33 jcamins_away Good night, #koha 04:34 jcamins_away And happy 3.4 (in advance)! 04:59 Brooke_ kia ora! 05:02 rangi hi Brooke_ 05:03 * Brooke_ salutes Rangi 05:21 kmkale rangi: YAH!! Just changed cas server url from https port 8443 to http & port 8180 and we are in business. 05:22 rangi sweet 05:22 rangi now we just have to fix that 05:35 rangi hi hdl, you are are awake early 05:35 hdl in fact i am at my computer early... ususally awake at 7.30 ;) 05:38 rangi ahh the time change confused me i thought it was only 6.30 :) 05:39 hdl I am awakening at 6.30 usually 05:40 rangi ahh 05:42 Brooke_ bonjour 05:42 wahanui bonjour, Brooke_ 05:52 hdl rangi: have you made some tests on big records ? 05:52 hdl Is it showing ok at search results ? 05:52 hdl where is your biblionumber placed ? 05:52 hdl big records, i mean more than 1000 items; 05:53 wizzyrea_away biggest I looked at was about 100 05:53 Brooke_ you're not very away :P 05:54 wizzyrea_away oh I am :P 05:54 hdl with periodicals, you may have those figures. 06:21 * cait stumbles in 06:21 cait morning :) 06:21 Brooke_ guten tag 06:21 wizzyrea_away oh my! you are up so soon? 06:22 kmkale hi cait 06:22 cait it's the time I normally leave to work 06:22 cait woke up 06:22 cait hi kmkale :) 06:24 rangi hi cait 06:24 cait hi rangi :) 06:24 cait how is it going? 06:25 rangi good 06:25 rangi www.koha-community.org is back, thanks to wizzyrea_away and her super effort 06:25 cait did she have to move it or is ec2 alive again? 06:26 Brooke_ wizzyrea ++ 06:27 cait ah I see 06:27 rangi most of it is alive again afaict 06:27 Brooke_ sleepy time at last. 06:27 alex_a hello #koha 06:27 rangi hi alex_a 06:27 wizzyrea_away most of it is alive, but I actually rebuilt it from backups 06:27 wizzyrea_away teh original server is still dead 06:31 cait wizzyrea++ 06:31 cait hi alex_a 06:31 wizzyrea_away psh its my job, but thx 06:31 cait a lotof people around for a holiday :) 06:32 rangi fredericd: around? 06:48 cait hm closed wrong window 06:48 wizzyrea_away you are sleepy ;) 06:52 rangi heh 06:52 cait hm... 06:52 cait denying will probably not work 06:55 julian hi #koha 06:57 rangi hi julian 06:58 * cait waves to julian 07:08 ibeardslee ahh found it again 07:22 fredericd rangi: yes 07:23 rangi ahh cool, would you ahve time to push up the .po files for 3.4 07:23 fredericd yes 07:23 fredericd is it save to update .po files to TT now? 07:23 fredericd safe 07:24 rangi yup 07:24 fredericd Ok. Si I will get .po files from Pootle, update them to TT, push them on a branch, and send them back to Pootle 07:24 rangi excellent 07:25 rangi cait has updated the german opac one already but the rest arent 07:25 rangi thank you 07:25 rangi i have this note in the release announcement too 07:26 rangi These changes, in addition to the inclusion of many new features, mean a lot of new strings for translators to translate. 07:26 rangi For these reasons we recommend that people who are already running Koha in 07:26 rangi production delay their upgrade until 3.4.1, due May 22, to give the translators 07:26 rangi time to finish, and for the removing of item data to be streamlined. If you do wish to upgrade please make sure you read the UPGRADE section of the INSTALL document. 07:27 rangi (new installs are fine) 07:30 francharb h i all 07:30 rangi hi francharb 09:30 rangi thanks fredericd 09:35 fredericd it's a huge commit because any language that have ever entered Koha repo has been updated. Next time, I will only pull updated languages by translators 09:39 rangi *nod* 09:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Update ALL Koha translation files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c8e493d6403886ddb5b997cef39d27d78ae8de6> 09:59 jenkins_koha Starting build 224 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 10:02 rangi right, tarball built and signed, uploading now 10:14 rangi and its out 10:16 cait whoohoo :) 10:16 rangi thanks everyone for all your hard work 10:17 cait rangi++ 10:20 cait noone else here for the party? 10:23 cait hm 10:24 francharb \0/ party time cait! party time! 10:24 francharb ;) 10:24 cait hehe 10:24 * cait shares some chocolate with francharb and rangi 10:24 francharb yummy 10:24 francharb ;) 10:29 cait hehe, most normal thing of the world - once something is out in the world, you start seeing the typos 10:29 cait INTERNATIONALIZTION 10:30 rangi in the release notes? 10:30 rangi heh, at least 6 people all missed that :) 10:31 cait yep 10:31 cait it's magic 10:31 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/release_notes/release_notes_3_2_0.txt;h=ee5b918d62e00ebe3afd5e6fe53060cf97556fb8;hb=9c8e493d6403886ddb5b997cef39d27d78ae8de6#l113 10:31 rangi 3.2.0 too :-) 10:31 rangi its a trend 10:33 cait lol 10:33 cait in a few years, everybody will spell it like that 10:34 rangi heh 10:35 cait and I think there will be at least one very obvious bug too 10:35 rangi there always is 10:35 cait right :) 10:35 cait hi druthb :) 10:35 druthb hi 10:36 * cait offers you some release party chocolate 10:36 cait rangi: do I have to count or can you tell me how many different names are on that contributurs list? :) 10:36 * druthb nibbles on chocolate 10:38 rangi hm i worked it out the other day 10:38 rangi 2 secs 10:38 cait yay - before yesterday ohloh said 99 - now 111 :D 10:38 cait commits, but cool numbers 10:39 rangi 66 10:39 cait honestly? 10:39 rangi 66 people yes 10:39 cait wow 10:39 rangi you have 81 commits in 3.4 10:39 rangi .0 10:39 cait that's a lot 10:39 rangi alex_a has 19 10:40 rangi 10 for druthb 10:40 kmkale rangi: crongats 10:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #224: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/224/ 10:40 jenkins_koha Frédéric Demians: Update ALL Koha translation files 10:40 rangi 5 for you kmkale 10:40 * cait hands kmkale some chocolate too 10:40 kmkale what chocolates? 10:40 druthb 10? wow. :) I didn't realize I'd done that many. 10:40 kmkale aahh commits 10:40 cait yummy chocolate 10:41 kmkale :) 10:41 kmkale I wish I could jave gotten the local images thingi in 10:41 cait submit it tomorrow for 3.2.6 :) 10:42 cait it will be here much sooner that we all think 10:42 kmkale not ready for prime time yet. Also tyhe customer has not yet given the go ahead :( 10:42 adnc I'm using z39.50 servers from this site http://listeci.itu.edu.tr/pipermail/tur-iug/2007-January/000259.html normally it works great, but sometimes i get a system error reply when doing a search. could someone please have a look into this list and tell me if there is something missing? 10:43 cait hm, could be a problem with your target 10:43 adnc you mean with the servers? 10:44 rangi kmkale: we write the contracts so that isnt an issue 10:44 rangi you pay us to do work, we release it 10:44 rangi thats the deal :) 10:45 kmkale I know, but its really raw yet. Works but raw stuff. Since the customer is sitting on the beta still, I never went back and readied it :( 10:45 cait adnc: http://irspy.indexdata.com/full.html?id=Z39.50%3Alibrary.bilgi.edu.tr%3A210%2FINNOPAC 10:45 rangi oleonard has 188! 10:45 cait hehe 10:45 cait no surprise 10:45 cait he is very leistungsfähig ;) 10:46 adnc cait, ohh I know this site. I use MARC21 which is not listed there 10:46 alex_a rangi: 19 for me \o/ 10:46 adnc the only information I'm missing is encoding, it works with marc-8 10:46 alex_a is there a ranking ? 10:46 cait adnc: you are right, - missed that 10:47 adnc cait, thanks anyway. it works most of the time 10:50 * druthb sends "leistungsfähig" to leo.org for translation, and nods in agreement. 10:52 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/gitdm/3_4.html 10:52 rangi (set the browser encoding to utf8 or it messes up the diacritics) 10:59 cait rangi++ 10:59 cait can't say that often enough 11:10 cait hi magnuse 11:10 magnuse 3.4 - woohoo! 11:10 magnuse hiya cait and #koha 11:11 cait morning jwagner 11:12 jwagner morning, cait 11:15 magnuse hiya jwagner 11:16 jwagner Hi magnuse 11:16 magnuse rangi++ 11:16 magnuse almost forgot that... 11:17 hdl rangi++ 11:17 cait bonjour hdl :) 11:18 cait rangi: what happens to the bugs now? 11:18 cait marking them closed now after an additional testing round? 11:19 magnuse cait: that sounds like a good idea 11:25 magnuse and what about the 58 bugs that need signoff for rel_3_4 - should they be moved to rel_3_6? http://koha-community.org/get-involved/ 11:27 cait hi nengard 11:27 nengard hiya 11:27 cait come and eat chocolate with us ;) 11:27 adnc I'm inserting into my DB with this command a marc field translations file mysql -u root -p koha_kutuphane < marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sq 11:28 adnc unfortunately the umlautes do get corrupt 11:28 adnc is there anything I can do to avoid this 11:29 hdl --default-character-set=utf-8 11:31 cait hi paul_p 11:31 adnc ahh 11:31 adnc thanks hdl 11:33 adnc yep, that did work 11:38 magnuse hiya nengard and paul_p 11:51 kmkale hdl I have CAS authentication working in Koha 3.2.6. Can you tell me how to get Single Sign On working in Koha? 11:51 hdl kmkale: there is documentation for that in C4::Auth_with_cas.pm iirc 11:52 * kmkale is looking 11:56 kmkale hdl: Nope. No documentation in C4::Auth_with_cas.pm 11:58 hdl kmkale: sorry : documentation is here docs/CAS/ 11:59 kmkale I just need to understand how SSO supposed to work. If a user is authenticated by another application using the same CAS service and s/he comes to Koha should s/he have to login again? If not how can that be acchieved? 12:01 hdl kmkale: no he doesnot have to. look at the documentation for CAS Proxy 12:01 kmkale is CAS Proxy necessary to get SSO? SSO not possible with normal CAS Auth? 12:02 hdl Koha uses his/her CAS Ticket and logs him in. 12:02 hdl kmkale: they have it live in Lyon3 for a year now. 12:04 hdl users log in to their ENT and then when they gets on a koha page, their CAS Ticket comes and Koha uses that to create a session 12:04 kmkale hdl: I am using 3.2.6. Which patches are must for CAS based SSO? bug 6012, bug 5630 ? 12:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6012 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED, Set up a working example of a CAS proxy 12:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5630 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, CAS improvements 12:04 hdl kmkale: I am not really the one who developped CAS But it works. 12:05 kmkale hdl: is there a special link we have to use to land in Koha? which has the ticket as a parameter? 12:08 hdl kmkale: I think so. 12:09 hdl You should read 5630 and 6012 files... And https://wiki.jasig.org/display/CAS/Proxy+CAS+Walkthrough 12:09 hdl To have more insight of how it should be done. 12:09 kmkale hdl: did. :) 12:10 kmkale hdl: I am still confused about the SSO part 12:12 hdl I will ask matts to come or get in contact with you. 12:12 hdl (matts developped the stuff and know more about CAS than I) 12:12 kmkale thanks hdl. Whats his irc id? 12:13 hdl matts is his nick 12:13 hdl matthias his surname 12:13 kmkale great. Will ask him. Either here or on the list :) 12:13 oleonard Congratulations and thanks to all who worked late last night 12:14 cait hi oleonard :) 12:15 Irma Congratulations from us @ CALYX! 12:16 Irma Great Easter present to libraries around the world! 12:17 cait hi Irma :) 12:17 Irma Hi cait :-) 12:18 cait how are you Irma? 12:18 Irma Really well now and with new clients on boards, have a lot to do witch is great.... 12:18 Irma You? 12:18 wahanui You are right 12:20 cait all is good :) 12:22 magnuse g'day Irma! 12:27 nengard Looks like open source and koha were mentioned at the sirsi conference 12:27 nengard http://twitter.com/#!/search/cosugi11%20koha 12:27 nengard http://twitter.com/#!/search/cosugi11%20open%20source 12:28 Irma cait hi there magnuse :-) 12:28 Irma hi all 12:29 Irma although late we are actually working so I am a bit distracted 12:31 magnuse hehe, time for a little bit of holiday soon, maybe? ;-) 12:38 Irma magnuse yep tomorrow and Sunday ... 12:41 oleonard chris_n around? 12:43 oleonard @later tell chris_n Can't figure out why that marc_subfield_structure patch won't apply for you. 12:43 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded. 12:45 kmkale bye all. Have a great weekend :) 12:45 magnuse the .po files were not renamed to anything with 4 in them aftr all? or will that be done for 3.4.1? 13:03 magnuse hiya sekjal 13:03 sekjal hi, magnuse! 13:04 oleonard Many thanks to sekjal and nengard for getting our passwords re-secured yesterday 13:04 oleonard I feel much more comfortable knowing that's taken care of 13:04 nengard :) 13:04 nengard no prob 13:05 sekjal gladly 13:05 cait nengard: how did you do it? 13:05 cait or sekjal 13:05 nengard nothing special 13:06 cait this is about the ! right? 13:06 nengard just wiped out the defaults so there was no password 13:06 nengard yes 13:06 sekjal if you manually set the password in the DB to either NULL or '', it prevents login, but still allows the storage of a userid 13:07 cait cool, thx 13:18 oleonard Friday + 3.4 release hangovers = quiet day in #koha 13:19 magnuse and a holiday in many parts of the world... 13:19 oleonard Here too for some, just depends on your employer 13:20 nengard patron import question ... can we set the default messaging preferences for a patron using the import tool? 13:20 nengard I don't see the option in the CSV file or the tool page 13:23 cait nengard: no not yet, but I think there might be a command line script 13:23 nengard k 13:23 cait and it will take your settings from the patron category 13:24 nengard submitting an enhancement 13:24 nengard oh right that was a 3.4 patch right? 13:24 cait the script I think yes 13:24 cait it took the settings from the beginning I thin 13:24 cait but I forgot to configure that a couple of times 13:30 nengard so the command line does it, but not the tool in koha 13:33 cait hm? 13:33 gmcharlt good morning 13:35 jwagner morning, gmcharlt 13:36 nengard well i've reported an enhancement bug 6252 13:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6252 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Patron import tool should let you set messaging preferences 13:36 nengard cait feel free to update it if i'm wrong 13:37 cait hm 13:37 cait I think there is a separate scirpt for updating messaging preferences nt related to the import really 13:38 cait and if you have messaging preferences set for the imported patron category - those will be set 13:38 gmcharlt both true 13:38 wizzyrea there was aonther thing with patron import 13:39 wizzyrea trivial, debatable thing 13:39 wizzyrea where the labels for the fields are their field names, and not their english names 13:39 gmcharlt but on other hand, being able to tweak the messaging settings directly at the point of import to use something other than the patron category defaults 13:39 gmcharlt would have its uses 13:39 cait would be nice :) 13:39 cait right 13:40 cait but until then - it's nice to have some possibilites to achieve what you want to do :) 13:40 gmcharlt wizzyrea: internationalize the patron import header, you mean? 13:40 cait hm 13:40 wizzyrea sec 13:40 wizzyrea pic 13:41 magnuse see you later #koha! 13:41 cait not sure that is worth the trouble 13:41 cait bye magnuse 13:41 wizzyrea it takes 2 sec ;) 13:41 gmcharlt tick-tock-tick-tock ;) 13:42 wizzyrea ok a little more than 2 13:42 wizzyrea but only bc I made a note on it :P 13:42 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/8bxwZdw2U 13:42 cait hm I think the list is generated 13:42 wizzyrea now I understand there's an argument here to be made that the csv requires those specific names 13:42 wizzyrea so why not match them 13:43 wizzyrea this is what happens when you let me poke at thing! 13:43 wizzyrea s/thing/things 13:43 gmcharlt wizzyrea: ah, I see 13:43 gmcharlt adding a translation of the descriptoin of the field label woudl make sense 13:44 gmcharlt as along as the column name was also listed, since that's what's needed in the CSV file header 13:44 wizzyrea and mostly they're self explanatory, until you get to things like b_address 13:45 gmcharlt (not that one could *also* i18n-ize the header line, but that's much more debatable - would make the file format for languages other than en subject to the whims of the translators) 13:46 gmcharlt or more precisely, the *changing* whims, as it were 13:46 gmcharlt I haven't had my tea yet - am I making sense? 13:47 wizzyrea I think so 13:47 wizzyrea i'm only talking about the human readability of the labels on those fields 13:47 wizzyrea go have your tea :) 13:47 nengard sorry - was testing something .. I want to be able to import patrons with messaging preferences as a column .. like the patron attributes - that's what I was saying 13:47 nengard good to know that defaults will be set though 13:47 gmcharlt Right, so for es-ES 13:47 gmcharlt Apellido (surname) 13:47 gmcharlt etc. 13:47 wizzyrea yea, exactly 13:48 gmcharlt nengard: right - so you can work around it now, but I also agree that your proposal would be useful 13:50 gmcharlt wizzyrea: of course, to actually do that would end up being a bigger project, but one that would have other i18n benefits: namely, making it possible to translate the names of database columns 13:50 gmcharlt where "names" could equal both "names" and "capsule descriptions" that can be used in other parts of the UI 13:51 cait like reports 13:51 gmcharlt exactly 13:51 cait I think there was an attempt to do that 13:51 cait but seems not maintained 13:51 cait columns.defs 13:52 gmcharlt cait: right, and that might be a starting-off point 13:52 cait I think it's used in the guided reports 13:53 gmcharlt yes, it is 13:54 gmcharlt but doesn't look like it's hooked up to the translation system 13:55 cait right 13:57 gmcharlt heh 13:57 gmcharlt sorry cait, of course you've already thought of all this 13:57 gmcharlt @bug 5482 13:57 huginn gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5482 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Translation problem in guided reports - Item field names 13:58 wizzyrea oy that's a much bigger problem 13:58 cait o 13:58 cait h 13:58 cait totally forgot that I wrote that 13:59 cait I like the spystatus 14:00 * cait is a little confused now 14:00 cait time to grab something to eat 14:08 nengard how do i edit the release notes? we forgot a library that sponsored a dev 14:12 gmcharlt nengard: you can just send a patch, and I can edit rangi's post on the website 14:12 gmcharlt who is the library? 14:12 wahanui the library is asking for the renewal to be from last expiry date of the patron by default 14:12 gmcharlt wahanui: forget the library 14:12 wahanui gmcharlt: I forgot library 14:12 gmcharlt (I feel slightly dirty doing that just now, libraries shouldn't be forgotten!) 14:12 nengard thanks gmcharlt 14:13 nengard patch sent 14:14 tcohen koha++ 14:17 gmcharlt nengard: post updated 14:17 nengard Thanks! Sorry we missed them :( glad it's fixed 14:25 gmcharlt who is running 3.4.0 (or almost-3.4.0) now? 14:26 wizzyrea we are running something back in the 30's 14:26 wizzyrea it's pre TT 14:29 cait I think magnuse wanted to update his demo 14:36 cait our libraries are on 3.2.2 15:51 wizzyrea is anybody (besides ptfs... I know they have this) working on being able to edit circ rules? 15:52 wizzyrea instead of delete/recreate? 15:52 gmcharlt could have sworn there was an ajax-y patch for that floating around 15:52 gmcharlt maybe in one of the biblibre branches? 15:52 wizzyrea oh that could be 15:58 nengard wizzyrea gmcharlt biblibre has work on that 15:58 nengard and it looked slick! 15:58 nengard just didn't make it in to 3.4 15:58 wizzyrea aha 15:58 wizzyrea I thought someone else had done it 15:58 nengard :) 15:58 wizzyrea thx :) 16:54 fcapo Hello, I had some indexation problems and I notice something : the default record.abs file seems to be configured incorrectly. 16:55 fcapo there are fields defined two times, and the order the fields are declared might be incorrect. 16:55 fcapo see http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/record-abs-and-melm-declaration-order-td3072197.html 16:57 fcapo Many time, I got authorities that showed they were linked to 0 biblios while they were actually linked to some biblios. 16:58 fcapo It was because the field 710$9 was never indexed because it was placed after 710 in the record.abs file 17:00 fcapo The field 710 is also declared twice in record.abs, which seems wrong to me 17:01 fcapo Just want to know if there was some recent attempts at correcting record.abs 17:06 fcapo Ugh... seems I chose the wrong day to speak. I'll post a bug report. 17:07 wizzyrea everybody was up late getting the release done 17:07 wizzyrea plus it's a holiday 17:07 wizzyrea plus fridays are always a bit slim around here, because it's saturday in half the world. 17:07 fcapo yea, didn't realise that, I'm still working today :P 17:07 wizzyrea me too :) 17:07 wizzyrea but I can't answer your questions :/ 17:08 fcapo ok, no problems, like I said, I'll post a bug report and see what happens. 17:08 wizzyrea :) always a good course of action 17:08 wizzyrea that way you can always just pop in and reference your bug 17:09 fcapo true 17:18 nengard i think i found a bug but could use some confirmation ... 17:18 nengard i'm trying to import a csv 17:18 nengard of patrons 17:18 nengard I downloaded the one from the page in Koha and filled in the fields 17:18 nengard same thing I've done many times before, but this time I got a head row error 17:19 nengard found the bug 17:19 nengard you can't have borrowernumber in the file 17:20 nengard so should the CSV have that then? 17:22 fcapo Normally, the borrowernumber is an automatically generated ID used by Koha, I don't think it would be a good ides to include it in the CSV unless you want to modify existing users. 17:24 fcapo looking at the import page, it seems the cardnumber is used to modify existing users, so I guess the borrowernumber would be useless here. 17:33 nengard yeah, so i'll report this and people can discuss what's best 17:38 fcapo after searching for a while, found my bug : Bug 5736 17:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5736 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Fixing some zebra configuration errors in marc21/biblios/record.abs 17:45 chris_n so much for "enterprise class data centers" hosted in amazon's cloud 18:21 oleonard Koha needs an interface for canceling transfers. 18:24 cait hm? 18:25 oleonard I've got titles on my 'transfers to receive' report which are 794 days late. They've already been marked lost. But the transfer is still pending. 18:27 oleonard It might also be a good idea to cancel any outstanding transfer when making something lost. 18:28 cait ah ok 18:28 cait so a way to deal with lost or missing transfers? 18:29 cait I wondered why you don't just return them, but that makes sense 18:31 oleonard The other problem with just returning them is you have to log in at the branch they're being transferred to, check them in, then log back in to the branch where they belong, check them in again. 18:40 oleonard Hmm.... Bug 2941 18:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2941 normal, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated. 18:40 cait an old one 18:41 cait sometimes it's really surprising what is all in bugzilla 18:41 sekjal oleonard: I can put that bug on my hit list, if it's proving particularly offensive 18:41 wizzyrea NEKLS would love to see that too 18:41 wizzyrea a way to cancel transfers 18:42 oleonard sekjal: I'm looking right now at the work rangi did on that bug. It doesn't look like it ever got merged 18:43 sekjal the good news is there is already a subroutine in C4::Circulation to delete transfers 18:44 sekjal would be easy enough to add a "Cancel Transfer" to the transferstoreceive.pl page 18:46 gmc_training good afternoon, folks 18:46 sekjal afternoon, gmc_training! 18:46 gmc_training please say hello to Greg, who is taking some Koha training today 18:47 cait hi gmc_training 18:47 cait hi greg :) 18:47 * oleonard will brb 18:47 gmc_training :) 18:48 * wizzyrea waves at both gmc_training and greg 18:52 oleonard My tab key ran out of tabs, so I had to refill it by restarting. 18:53 nengard hehe 19:09 joetho Hello Greg 19:39 oleonard I attached a patch to Bug 2941 19:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2941 normal, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated. 19:44 sekjal great! 19:44 cait oleonard+1 19:45 cait oleonard++ 19:46 oleonard I guess that just got lost in the cracks. It was 99% done unless there's a catch I'm missing 19:46 cait as I said - bugzilla is full of surprises :) 19:48 rangi yeah got lost in the 3.2 release and kohacon10 19:48 cait morning rangi :) 19:49 rangi morning 19:50 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2941] Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2941> 19:54 wizzyrea oo oo 19:54 * wizzyrea goes to grab that 20:02 oleonard Someone show that troll at the Syrsi conference this page: http://www.librarytechnology.org/ils-turnover-reverse.pl?Year=2011 20:03 wizzyrea interesting 20:03 wizzyrea no one switched away from koha-bywater 20:04 wizzyrea guys, that's really awesome! 20:05 wizzyrea looks like no one switched away from evergreen either 20:06 * cait makes notes 20:08 sekjal wizzyrea: our goal is to keep our service levels high enough that no one ever walks away out of unhappiness 20:09 wizzyrea sekjal: it's working, apparently :) 20:09 sekjal :) we like our partners very much 20:09 cait :) 20:16 joetho troll at sd conference? 20:19 oleonard joetho: Someone quoted this line on Twitter: "open source ILS just didn't seem to have panned out." 20:19 rangi oleonard: the troll was the sd people 20:19 rangi of course they are going to do that 20:19 rangi we are terrorists of course 20:20 joetho <-- I would have spoked up, oh yes I would have 20:20 joetho <--- now working in a s/d shop. 20:20 joetho <--opensource infidel 20:21 rangi well, there was a fair amount of passive aggression on twitter, its what its for doncha know :) 20:21 joetho always 20:21 * oleonard terrorizes the innocent public with dangerous patches 20:21 rangi but im not sure anyone heckled :) 20:21 joetho I would have but I didn't go. 20:21 cait oleonard: I am scared :) 20:21 joetho Phoenix. 20:21 joetho oh you are not either. 20:22 wizzyrea hmm 20:22 wizzyrea on latest master 20:22 wizzyrea on the advanced search, in the intranet 20:22 wizzyrea there are no "and" dropdowns 20:22 cait you turned on the more options? 20:22 * oleonard quits for the weekend 20:22 wizzyrea hmm 20:22 wizzyrea let me check 20:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: history.txt updates for April 2011 releases <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d04ca42111a39da4774582c16f8fec03ed27f724> / Add missing library to release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=975e876c5e30e9b8fffbc2ee38ffb4ca69aba70b> 20:23 cait I remember testing that - it was broken by tt but fixed afaik 20:23 wizzyrea yea, it's on 20:23 cait hm 20:23 cait does it work in opac? 20:23 wizzyrea mine looks like: http://screencast.com/t/SzxbJAffuZGO 20:23 cait perhaps we only fixed one of those 20:23 cait klick on more options 20:24 cait click even 20:24 wizzyrea aha! 20:24 wizzyrea is that a cookie? 20:24 cait no 20:24 wizzyrea hrm 20:24 wizzyrea oki 20:24 cait it's a sys pref 20:24 wizzyrea mine is set to show, I believe 20:24 cait no idea then :) 20:25 wizzyrea yep, it's set to show, soooo 20:25 wizzyrea something has gone awry, gromit :) 20:26 cait hm, but not an evil bug 20:27 wizzyrea hm 20:27 wizzyrea nope 20:27 wizzyrea not evil 20:27 wizzyrea here's another one tho 20:27 wizzyrea if you search by available items only 20:27 wizzyrea if any item is unavailable 20:27 wizzyrea you won't find the book 20:27 wizzyrea by title 20:28 rangi yeah, thats been there for ever, i think there is a bug for that 20:28 wizzyrea hum de dum 20:29 jenkins_koha Starting build 225 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:30 cait I think ther eis one for icu and available items 20:30 wizzyrea bug 4481? 20:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4481 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Search's Limit to Available filters out many available items 20:30 wizzyrea but there was a patch for marc21 20:31 cait bug 5958 20:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5958 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Availability Limit with icu 20:32 wizzyrea so which does "works under keyword but not under title" fall under? 20:33 * wizzyrea has really no clue about ICU 20:34 rangi re the question earlier about bugs marked for rel_3_4 20:34 * cait perks up 20:34 rangi if they are bugs, leave them marked for that, if they are enhancements shift them to rel_3_6 20:34 rangi that will help chris_n know which ones to cherry-pick etc 20:34 wizzyrea o cool I didn't realize chris_n stayed on as releasemaint :) 20:35 wizzyrea i may have been under a rock 20:35 * chris_n needs all the help he can get :-P 20:35 rangi hehe 20:35 cait are you maintaining 3.4 and 3.2 now 20:35 cait ? 20:35 rangi its a big job 20:36 chris_n cait: yup 20:36 cait you are crazy :) chris_n++ 20:36 chris_n although I anticipate that stuff for 3.2 will slow down quite a bit now 20:36 cait rangi: what about the status? 20:36 cait I thik that was for open bugs? 20:36 rangi if its needs signoff, and the patch doesnt have tmpl changes 20:36 cait what about the patch pushed ones? 20:36 rangi it can stay as it is 20:37 rangi if it has tmpl changes, it would be good to note that it needs to be reformatted 20:37 * chris_n notes that patches which should be included in 3.2.x should be noted as such in the commit comments 20:37 rangi cait: pushed, but not resolved yet? 20:37 chris_n or taged for 3.2.x in the subject line 20:38 wizzyrea erm, ok dense question 20:38 cait I think so 20:38 wizzyrea i just created a branch but forgot to add which remote branch to track 20:38 wizzyrea can I add that 20:38 wizzyrea after the fact? 20:38 rangi cait: mark them resolved fixed if they are 20:38 * chris_n does not think so 20:38 cait and I think I need some very clear guidelines - because I want to do some bug wrangling but start to get confused now :) 20:38 chris_n just git branch -D and recreate 20:39 rangi any that are resolved fixed, you can test and mark closed 20:39 wizzyrea kk, that's what I was thinking but i wanted to make sure there wasn't some wicked git fu I was missing out on 20:39 rangi you can rebase it 20:39 cait rangi: and if they are only patch pushed but tnot resolved fixed yet but confirmed working in 3.4? 20:39 cait my, this gets complicated 20:40 rangi they alwyas go resolved fixed first 20:40 wizzyrea thanks chris_n 20:40 rangi and someone else closes them 20:40 chris_n np :) 20:40 rangi so you hsould resolved fix and close the same bug 20:40 rangi 2 diff people 20:40 rangi should 20:40 rangi does that make sense? 20:40 cait yep 20:40 rangi hsould = shouldnt 20:40 cait but I fear we will never get that all done ;) 20:40 chris_n @later tell oleonard I'll try your patch again Monday 20:40 huginn chris_n: The operation succeeded. 20:41 rangi cait: getting to resolved fix is the most important bit 20:41 wizzyrea chris_n: are you looking at 2941? 20:41 rangi i plan to mark all the ones resolved fixed as closed in a week or 2 20:41 cait ok 20:42 cait marking resolved fixed after testing - got it 20:42 chris_n wizzyrea: no, this is another he wrote for 3.2.x specifically 20:42 cait oh 20:42 wizzyrea chris_n: k 20:42 chris_n do I need to pick that one for 3.2.x? 20:43 cait ok, I will regret that 20:43 cait I guess I have to test both 3.2.x and 3.4 to mark resolved? 20:44 chris_n it would be nice if bugzilla allowed for marking multiple versions for a bug 20:44 cait it would 20:44 wizzyrea oho 20:44 chris_n cait: I'd say that if the bug appears in both, both need to be tested 20:44 cait as long as it doesn't i will leave a comment which version was tested.... I guess 20:44 cait and leave open until both were 20:44 rangi yeah that would be good 20:45 * chris_n plans on pressing for a rather quick EOL on 3.2.x as soon as we get out a release or two of 3.4.x 20:46 cait I hope you do that 20:46 cait because I will NOT test in 3 versions ;) 20:46 chris_n I suppose a final 3.0.x will not happen at this point? 20:46 * chris_n wonders if we should do a formal EOL announcement for 3.0.x 20:47 rangi i don thtink there is much point doing a final one now 20:47 chris_n maybe we can talk owen into a fancy sculpted, metalic look interface for 4.0... ;-) 20:48 cait lol 20:48 cait blinking buttons and running text? 20:48 chris_n hehe 20:51 sekjal I was thinking of doing a movie trailer for Koha 4.0 20:51 wizzyrea oleonard++ for finding that transfer code 20:51 wizzyrea rangi++ for writing 20:51 wizzyrea it 20:51 wizzyrea because 20:51 wizzyrea it actually fixes another bug too 20:51 rangi now we have a bunch of bug wranglers 20:51 rangi things like this should get lost less 20:51 rangi ill send out a call to action next week 20:52 cait cool :) 20:52 rangi of course cait prolly will have finished it all by then knowing her 20:52 wizzyrea she's very efficient 20:53 cait oh don't do that 20:53 rangi heh, mbreeding must have heard oleonard 20:53 wizzyrea I think that fix for 2941 also fixes bug 6226 20:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6226 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW, Returning a misrouted item twice causes transit to correct receiving library to disappear 20:53 rangi he tweeted the turnover reports 20:54 rangi wizzyrea: yay, first candidate for 3.4.1 20:54 wizzyrea i still have some testing to do 20:54 wizzyrea on it 20:54 cait ok, another can of worms 20:54 cait what about the rfc's on the wiki? 20:54 wizzyrea but oy vey, if that gets fixed... so happy 20:55 rangi cait: yeah the ones that have bugs attached, we can check the bugs and mark it done if they are resolved 20:55 rangi the other ones .. probably will involve emails to the devel list 20:55 rangi what i want to do in the next few weeks 20:56 rangi is try to get everything that has a patch marked needs signoff, either signed off or reformatted so it can be signed off 20:56 sekjal signed off on 2941 20:56 wizzyrea sekjal: i'm going to too, but I want to test it in context of holds too 20:56 rangi before we can a pile more 20:56 wizzyrea so I'm doing that now 20:56 rangi can=add 20:56 sekjal wizzyrea: one of the ones I tested had a hold 20:57 cait rangi: you are an optimist :) 20:57 rangi heh, well even a few is good 20:57 wizzyrea I have something special in mind 20:57 sekjal from Library A to Library B, checked in at Library C 20:57 sekjal two messages 20:57 sekjal the first about the transfer, with the cancel transfer link, and the second about the hold 20:58 wizzyrea yea 20:58 wizzyrea that's bad 20:58 wizzyrea it should not prompt to send home 20:58 wizzyrea ever, if there is a hold 20:59 wizzyrea get stuff going all over the place that way 20:59 wizzyrea because staff don't always read the screen 20:59 wizzyrea I don't think I could sign off if it introduces dual prompts 20:59 rangi s/dont always/never/ 20:59 sekjal wizzyrea: my understanding was that the dual prompts were already there 21:00 sekjal this just adds a link to one of them to cancel the transfer 21:00 rangi *nod* 21:00 wizzyrea mmm no I thought we just had this fixed 21:00 wizzyrea 1s 21:00 cait hm yes there was a patch about dual prompts 21:01 cait bug 6004? 21:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6004 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, checking in an item that needs to be transferred home, and is on-hold for a patron, causes dual transfer message box 21:01 wizzyrea was from ruth 21:01 wizzyrea yep that's the one 21:01 rangi easy way to test, git reset HEAD^ 21:02 rangi git stash 21:02 rangi and if the dual prompts are still there, its not it 21:02 cait what does the first command do? 21:02 cait or undo? 21:02 wizzyrea un mo 21:02 sekjal that patch uses $hbr, which is problematic 21:03 sekjal $hbr is defined as HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn, not uniformly homebranch 21:03 wizzyrea hm this must be one of the last dual prompt situations 21:03 sekjal which is fine, set it to homebranch, and you're good to go 21:03 rangi yep thats what that syspref is supposed to do 21:03 sekjal but if you're in IndependantBranches, that means you can't check the item back in at the library that issued it 21:04 rangi you can if you have it set to holdingbranch 21:04 sekjal yes, but then you won't be prompted to transfer it to it's homebranch if you have AutoItemReturn set to yes 21:04 sekjal it'll just stay at the holdingbranch 21:04 rangi right, because youve told it that you allow it to stay at holdingbranch 21:05 sekjal there's no way in IndependantBranches to send the item home automatically 21:05 sekjal if homebranch, you can't check it back in. 21:05 sekjal if holdingbranch, it stays where it's returned 21:05 rangi right, however its fixed it needs to not break it for not independant branches too 21:06 rangi ie it needs to respect the homeorholdingbranch syspref 21:06 wizzyrea bug 4234 21:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4234 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Automatic transfer shouldn't take precedence over a hold transit 21:06 sekjal HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn is being used two different ways in AddReturn 21:06 wizzyrea which is what i'm seeing here 21:06 sekjal one to define where one is allowed to return the material, the other to determine where it should be transferred to after return 21:07 rangi afaict the patch for 2941 doesnt touch hbr at all 21:07 rangi are you talking about the one for 6004? 21:07 sekjal rangi: yes, this is 6004 21:07 sekjal 2941 does what it planned to do 21:08 sekjal 6004 needs a follow up 21:08 rangi ah right 21:08 sekjal I have code in testing for it 21:08 * rangi was confused 21:08 * cait is still 21:08 sekjal this was seriously goffing up MassCat, until I patched them 21:08 rangi can you note this on 6004 21:08 sekjal yes 21:08 rangi thanks 21:09 rangi also, i note you have been using the blocks feature in bugzilla 21:09 rangi sekjal++ 21:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #225: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/225/ 21:09 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Add missing library to release notes 21:09 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: history.txt updates for April 2011 releases 21:10 rangi makes tracking related bugs a lot easier 21:10 rangi because you get the nice tree view 21:10 rangi so, block/depends etc these one together would be good wizzyrea 21:11 wizzyrea I didn't mean to confuse the issue, I just hadn't seen a dual prompt in so long I was surprised. 21:12 wizzyrea hmm 21:12 sekjal 6004 update with notes 21:12 sekjal now, I must depart 21:13 sekjal have a good weekend, #koha friends! 21:13 wizzyrea bye sekjal, have a good weekend :) 21:13 cait bye sekjal :) 21:14 rangi http://www.amzari.com/v3/2011/04/mobile-opac-based-on-koha-open-source-ils/ 21:14 rangi ill encourage them to put the code in a git repo 21:15 rangi cos its sounds cool 21:15 cait it does 21:16 wizzyrea uh, yea 21:16 wizzyrea oleonard will be mad tho ;) 21:16 wizzyrea i know he wanted to tackle that 21:16 rangi he can take it, and fix it for tt 21:16 rangi :) 21:17 jcamins_away rangi: do you know how to get in touch with Tumer, to ask if he'd be willing to share his Zebra configuration? 21:17 rangi ill dig up an email 21:17 rangi and im sure he would 21:17 rangi hes a great guy 21:20 wizzyrea i really want that mobile interface >.< 21:20 * wizzyrea doesn't want to have to pay for library anywhere, even though it's pretty great. 21:22 rangi http://library.neu.edu.tr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-infrastructure.pl 21:22 rangi there ya go 21:24 rangi bbiab 21:55 cait h 21:55 cait hm 21:55 cait I did a git pull... 21:55 cait it said merge made by recursive... and it seems very busy? 21:59 cait hm. 22:01 rangi yes it will be 22:01 rangi all the po files 22:01 wizzyrea oh yea mine took ages 22:01 wizzyrea where ages = several minutes, more than I had the patience to watch 22:05 cait ah 22:05 cait I got worried :) 22:08 cait rangi: is there a way to manage branches on bulk? Like deleting all starting with tt? 22:10 cait ah, you can list more than one branch for deletion 22:17 * jcamins_away realizes too late... much too late... that he forgot to shut down MySQL before deleting ibdata1. 22:18 cait sounds like it's a bad thing to forget 22:19 jcamins_away Yeah, probably. 22:19 gmcharlt jcamins_away: it's an opportunity to validate your data recovery process 22:19 gmcharlt think of it that way :) 22:20 jcamins_away gmcharlt: the reason I deleted ibdata1 was to get rid of the data. 22:20 jcamins_away My 400MB DB was taking ~6GB. 22:20 jcamins_away And I have 1.5GB of data to load into it. 22:23 * jcamins_away is aware that there was probably a better way to deal with the issue. 22:23 jcamins_away Fortunately, restarting MySQL fixed everything. 22:57 cait bye :)