Time  Nick                Message
23:59 cait                but the list is still empty
23:59 cait                after midnight now:)
23:59 cait                s/cen/can
23:59 cait                aha, I cen submit late orders with 0 days ago
23:59 rangi               yep thats why im checking
23:58 cait                hm or a problem with my data?
23:58 rangi               right well then its a deeper issue, checking now
23:57 cait                ok, both are still empty
23:55 cait                ok
23:55 cait                ah
23:55 rangi               if not, we have to dig deeper
23:55 rangi               if so, we know its a TT problem
23:54 rangi               and see if they come back
23:54 cait                could you check if you see the same?
23:54 rangi               can you checkout html_template_pro
23:54 rangi               yep
23:54 cait                you have to choose a vendor
23:54 rangi               right
23:54 cait                because you can't do a 'search all' in both reports
23:54 cait                which breaks the whole thing
23:54 cait                both pull downs are empty
23:54 cait                no
23:54 rangi               and its not in the list?
23:54 cait                it's active and has a name
23:53 cait                I only have one vendor
23:53 rangi               hmm
23:52 cait                late orders and serials claims
23:52 cait                there are 2 places where I would expect a vendor's list but get an empty pull down
23:51 cait                hm
23:50 rangi               the ambulance staff here use that as their haka
23:47 rangi               heh
23:46 wizzyrea_away       i'm tempted to make them chant it at kudoscon :P
23:45 rangi               (at 2 mins too)
23:42 rangi               you can hear how you chant it :)
23:42 rangi               at the 34 second mark
23:42 rangi               http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwG7ACsFWtU
23:39 bg                  ah yeah now I remember
23:39 cait                too bad google doesn't translate maori
23:39 rangi               this feat is not the feat of one, but the feat of many
23:38 bg                  I know this one --> Haere. Mōu tai ata; mōku tai ahiahi
23:38 bg                  ah I think you told me once - but I'm drawing a blank
23:37 rangi               Ehara taku toa i te toa takitahi, engari he toa takitini
23:37 jenkins_koha        Starting build 221 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:37 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6251 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: Some problems with receiving orders
23:37 jenkins_koha        Katrin Fischer: Bug 6251: Acq: receiving orders
23:37 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing typo in the release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8003a1343d0fa978df6d7f43ef9ede16adee769b>
23:37 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #220: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/220/
23:36 rangi               speaking of translate, people figure out the proverb at the bottom of the release notes?
23:35 * rangi             is playing with google translate
23:35 rangi               apparently hmpf in german is hmpf
23:35 cait                I think all mean basically the same
23:34 rangi               ?
23:34 cait                hmpf :)
23:34 rangi               Sie sind sehr effizient
23:34 cait                hm not sure I am leistungsfähig
23:33 rangi               tüchtig
23:33 bg                  cait - the last thing chris just pushed
23:33 rangi               effizient
23:33 cait                ?
23:33 bg                  yeah - that totally worked for me :)
23:33 rangi               i like 789
23:33 rangi               bg: hehe yeah it was pretty funny :)
23:32 rangi               cait: if you tested, im doubt you missed much :) can you say this, you are very leistungsfähig ?
23:32 bg                  rangi I preferred usecontrolnumber syspref allows you to like the 78X fields to
23:31 cait                rangi: I am done with acq - quite sure I missed some things, but can't find them
23:30 bg                  probably not cait
23:30 cait                hm, thinking about it - the only alchol I have is egg liqueur I use for baking - and I don't think that will complement the tea very well
23:30 bg                  so what's the count down look like now - less than 10 hours to the release?
23:30 wizzyrea_away       oo
23:28 bg                  hot toddy
23:28 bg                  or rum ;)
23:27 rangi               not unless you put whisky in it
23:27 cait                hm jasmine tea probably doesn't count?
23:27 rangi               i drank some bordeaux last night
23:26 cait                I think we had similar temperatures here today :)
23:26 bg                  we can pop some champagne to honor Elizabeth and 3.4 ;)
23:26 huginn              rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (10:00 AM NZST on April 22, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
23:26 huginn              wizzyrea_away: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 13.6�C (6:28 PM CDT on April 21, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady).
23:26 rangi               @wunder wellington nz
23:26 wizzyrea_away       @wunder 66049
23:26 huginn              cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.9�C (1:25 AM CEST on April 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Steady).
23:26 cait                @wunder Konstanz
23:26 bg                  you should all come to sunny Santa Barbara for the release of 3.4
23:26 huginn              bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.8�C (4:27 PM PDT on April 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady).  Wind Advisory in effect until midnight tonight... 
23:26 bg                  @wunder 93109
23:25 cait                hi bg :)
23:25 bg                  heya cait
23:25 cait                that was weird, but it's all working now
23:22 cait                weird
23:22 cait                now it shows
23:20 cait                hm
23:10 cait                I can't edit funds - but i was able to earlier today
23:10 cait                this is strange
23:08 cait                hm
23:04 cait                um yes, the whole table is not showing
23:04 cait                no
23:03 * rangi             needs to get somethign to eat be back in  a sec
23:02 rangi               the whole table isnt showing?
23:02 cait                hm I have budget, I have funds... I want my table!
23:02 cait                I am template testing - don't assume the worst :)
23:01 rangi               phew
23:01 cait                no on acq home
23:00 rangi               in the db?
23:00 cait                the budget table is missing
22:59 cait                oh!
22:58 jenkins_koha        Starting build 220 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:58 wizzyrea_away       of course, you should take extra time off because this is technically work
22:58 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6250 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: Link to order in uncertain prices list broken
22:58 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6249 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: Can't order from suggestions
22:58 jenkins_koha        * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6250: Link to order in uncertain prices list broken
22:58 jenkins_koha        * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6249: Can't order accepted suggestions
22:58 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #219: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/219/
22:55 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6251: Acq: receiving orders <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=300a87a94c5177e2c09c2f89383df0faffd508f7>
22:52 rangi               today is holiday here
22:51 cait                tomorrow is holiday, no problem staying up a bit longer
22:50 wizzyrea_away       ooo even better
22:50 cait                jasmine tea :)
22:50 wizzyrea_away       cait: drink plenty of water :)
22:49 cait                I will go when concentration is gone
22:49 rangi               seems that is the best way to get it tested
22:49 rangi               yeah i should have merged in the TT stuff sooner
22:49 cait                should have done that earlier
22:48 cait                found the next on histsearch
22:48 rangi               i really appreciate your work
22:48 cait                it's ok
22:48 rangi               you shouldn't stay up too late cait
22:48 rangi               cool
22:47 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6251] Acq: Some problems with receiving orders <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6251>
22:47 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6251 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: Some problems with receiving orders
22:47 cait                bug 6251 sent
22:23 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6250: Link to order in uncertain prices list broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e7ecd4fd1c8bd2361427d3bcaa8f2247732a666>
22:18 jenkins_koha        Starting build 219 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:18 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6248 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: order from staged marc file broken
22:18 jenkins_koha        Katrin Fischer: Bug 6248: Acq: order from staged marc file broken
22:18 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #218: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/218/
22:15 cait                bye wizzyrea :)
22:15 rangi               im sure there was a bug fixed to do with zebra passwing back xml
22:14 wizzyrea            ok peeps, gotta go but will def be back
22:14 cait                1 2 next - next is ok, 2 not
22:14 cait                hm the pagination on parcel is broken, - it's missing the supplier id
22:12 rangi               jcamins_away: you still away?
22:11 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6250] Acq: Link to order in uncertain prices list broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6250>
22:11 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6249: Can't order accepted suggestions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4770c531af37bdb2b5e14f492e5b7c0366d09ada>
22:09 wizzyrea            *nod*
22:09 rangi               ta
22:05 cait                sent 6250 for uncertain prices
22:04 wizzyrea            there should be a comma after features
22:04 pastebot0           "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "revision :)" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/23
22:01 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6249] Acq: Can't order from suggestions <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6249>
21:57 rangi               cait: yeah, acq does seem to be by far the most problematic
21:57 wizzyrea            :)
21:57 wizzyrea            1s, I have some wording for you
21:56 cait                spotted next on uncertain prices
21:56 cait                seems like every template has a problem in acq
21:56 rangi               thanks cait
21:56 cait                and looks good :)
21:56 cait                sent 6249
21:55 druthb              that looks good, rangi.
21:54 rangi               yay
21:54 pastebot0           "rangi" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "Can I get a proofread/suggestions please" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/22
21:54 wizzyrea            phew, patron import = working
21:53 druthb              no hiding, cait!
21:53 druthb              cait++
21:53 * druthb            turns and points at cait.  LOOK, EVERYONE!
21:52 * cait              hides behind druthb
21:51 wizzyrea            cait++ for the csv
21:51 wizzyrea            bless you cait
21:46 * cait              hides
21:46 druthb              cait++
21:38 jenkins_koha        Starting build 218 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:38 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6247 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: oder from existing record broken
21:38 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Acq: basket table broken
21:38 jenkins_koha        * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6247: Acq: order already existing record broken
21:38 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6245 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Can't oder from Z39.50 in acquisitions
21:38 jenkins_koha        * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6246: Modify/Delete links were missing from basket lines
21:38 jenkins_koha        * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6245: Can't order from z39.50 search in acq
21:38 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #217: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/217/
21:32 bencahill           lol
21:32 wizzyrea            ask amazon :P
21:32 bencahill           hmm, will the website be up soon?
21:30 cait                owen's blog is http://www.myacpl.org/koha/
21:30 wizzyrea            acpl koha blog usually gets it
21:29 cait                I hoped wahanui knows the url
21:29 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6248: Acq: order from staged marc file broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7ea2ca4a3cf3b6a32b439ce814c126cb07a6bfa>
21:29 wahanui             hmmm... owen's blog is a good starting point
21:29 bencahill           cait: owen's blog?
21:29 bencahill           cait: I suppose just play around?
21:29 cait                bencahill: owen's blog is a good starting point
21:28 cait                bencahill: you can do a lot with koha + css
21:27 wizzyrea            ty ty
21:27 cait                sent
21:26 wahanui             cait: I forgot email
21:26 cait                wahanui forget email
21:26 wizzyrea            lrea@nekls.org
21:26 wahanui             email is weird
21:26 cait                email?
21:26 wizzyrea            :)
21:26 wizzyrea            that's ok
21:25 cait                but you would have to change categorytype, branchcode and perhaps dateformats
21:25 cait                wizzyra: I have one with 21 patrons
21:25 bencahill           hey guys, can I (semi-)easily make the opac fit into my own website layout? (I can do any css, just don't do perl)
21:24 cait                perhaps
21:23 wizzyrea            hey, anybody have a patron CSV they can shoot me?
21:21 cait                I thin it works in 3.2.2
21:19 rangi               ive never used lateorders
21:17 cait                and the supplier pull down is empty
21:17 cait                but I always get 0 results
21:16 cait                I wonder if 0 days ago should bring up my orders
21:16 rangi               thanks wizzyrea
21:16 rangi               but tools would be good
21:16 rangi               i did reports
21:16 wizzyrea            tools... I can run through tools
21:16 cait                tools and reports someone?
21:15 cait                I did circulation reports and staged marc import
21:15 wizzyrea            with all sorts of mistreatment, and they seemed good
21:15 wizzyrea            I ran through several reserves earlier
21:15 cait                looking at lateorders now
21:15 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6248] Acq: order from staged marc file broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6248>
21:12 * rangi             has been circulating and cataloguing items, which seems all good, so thank you for running through acquisitions
21:09 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6248 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: order from staged marc file broken
21:09 cait                bug 6248 done
21:09 cait                sometimes they can be really loud!
21:01 rangi               heh
20:59 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6244 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Javascript error on circulation home page
20:59 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6240 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, edit subscription loses bib link
20:59 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6168 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Can't delete holds from circulation page
20:59 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6236 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, cannot receive serials
20:59 wizzyrea            botfight!
20:59 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6237 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Recent changes leave compile time warnings in additem.pl
20:59 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6232 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Can't link authorities to bibliographic record
20:59 jenkins_koha        Starting build 217 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:59 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6231 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, System preferences in XSLT view broken
20:59 jenkins_koha        * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6244, Javascript error on circulation home page
20:59 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6238 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing
20:59 jenkins_koha        * Colin Campbell: Bug 6240 : pass a hash to template not a scalar
20:59 jenkins_koha        * Owen Leonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6168, Can't delete holds from circulation page
20:59 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6234 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Links on hold ratios report broken
20:59 jenkins_koha        * Colin Campbell: Bug 6236 : When checking for expiry don't try to process 0 dates
20:59 jenkins_koha        * Colin Campbell: Bug 6237: remove compile time warning
20:58 jenkins_koha        * Colin Campbell: Bug 6237: Remove redeclarations of global vars in same scope
20:58 jenkins_koha        * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6232: Impossible to link authorities to bibliographic records
20:58 jenkins_koha        * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6231: some system preferences in XSLT broken
20:58 jenkins_koha        * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6238 - Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing
20:58 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6239 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Merging records broken
20:58 jenkins_koha        * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6234: Fixing missing biblionumber for links using biblio-default-view.inc
20:58 jenkins_koha        * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6239, Merging records broken
20:58 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #216: SUCCESS in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/216/
20:57 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6247: Acq: order already existing record broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e87ba24b632f8532159cae6e2e36edf0e63dca8>
20:52 cait                think they might have a local expert :)
20:51 rangi               well lots of libraries in kenya run koha
20:50 cait                not sure what ils they have
20:48 cait                one of my coworkers got to do training in greece and new york for the goethe institutes
20:47 cait                hehe
20:47 rangi               cait: you should go do some consulting for them :-)
20:47 rangi               oh very cool
20:46 cait                and yes they are in our union catalog: http://swb.bsz-bw.de/DB=2.308/SET=2/PRS=HOL/SHW?FRST=1&HILN=888
20:46 * cait              blushes
20:46 wizzyrea            cait is on FIRE
20:46 rangi               cait++ # another perfect fix
20:43 cait                not sure about this one
20:43 cait                the goethe institutes are participating in our union catalog
20:43 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6247] Acq: oder from existing record broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6247>
20:43 cait                interesting!
20:36 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6246: Modify/Delete links were missing from basket lines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=caf4c4b37e9d954d845fd876ac0d4ed0b567a97a>
20:36 rangi               pretty cool
20:36 rangi               http://kohakenya.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/goethe-institut-workshop-to-feature-koha/
20:35 rangi               http://kohakenya.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/goethe-institut-workshop-to-feature-koha/
20:33 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6247 critical, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: oder from existing record broken
20:33 cait                next is bug 6247 - patch coming
20:32 cait                :)
20:31 rangi               cait: works perfectly
20:31 druthb              SteveJ: ...k  Calling now.
20:30 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3674 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, REOPENED, Creating users with empty password
20:30 jenkins_koha        Chris Nighswonger: Revert "3.0.x: ce353e7 bug #3674 allow users creation with disabled password"
20:30 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_3.2.x build #22: SUCCESS in 1 h 16 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/22/
20:30 SteveJ              druthb, I am back.
20:30 druthb              wanahnui:  Brooke_ is the best dinner companion a girl could want.
20:30 wizzyrea            cataloging, for one
20:29 wizzyrea            gamambel: certainly there are parts of koha you could use for that project
20:29 wahanui             druthb: I forgot brooke_
20:29 druthb              wahanui: forget Brooke_
20:29 wizzyrea            francois++
20:28 rangi               wizzyrea: one of francois' pieces of software
20:28 * druthb            thinks.
20:28 wahanui             well, Brooke_ is hearing no objections
20:28 druthb              wahanui: Brooke_?
20:28 gamambel            will add it to the log :)
20:28 rangi               like gravatar but distributed and libre
20:27 rangi               factor adding support for that in to your opac
20:27 wizzyrea            hee
20:27 gamambel            like gravatar?
20:27 gamambel            rangi: avatar?
20:27 rangi               http://www.libravatar.org/
20:27 gamambel            wizzyrea: if you look at the list of my "projects", it won't be anytime soon i guess :)
20:27 rangi               gamambel: have you seen libravatar ?
20:27 wizzyrea            yw, good luck on the project :)
20:26 druthb              Brooke_ has been here, clearly.
20:26 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6245: Can't order from z39.50 search in acq <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74f6bd4f88d64bacfdf49ffa4a17fef4ecec01e0>
20:26 gamambel            if anyone has some input on my distributed opac idea, feel free to contact me :)
20:26 * druthb            blushes.
20:26 wahanui             you are probably one fine number in a skirt.
20:26 druthb              wahanui: druthb?
20:26 gamambel            i gotta go now, thanks wizzyrea
20:26 druthb              cait++
20:25 rangi               cait++
20:25 rangi               yay
20:25 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Acq: basket table broken
20:25 cait                bug 6246 ready for testing
20:24 gamambel            http://www.headstrong.de/projects/opac
20:24 jcamins_away        :)
20:23 wahanui             logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/
20:23 jcamins_away        logs?
20:23 jcamins_away        logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/
20:23 wahanui             jcamins_away: I forgot logs
20:23 jcamins_away        wahanui: forget logs
20:23 rangi               http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-04-21#i_649627
20:23 wahanui             jcamins_away: excuse me?
20:23 jcamins_away        Well, that wasn't too helpful, wahanui.
20:23 wahanui             logs are down
20:23 jcamins_away        logs?
20:22 wizzyrea            fine by me
20:22 rangi               gamambel: yep, this is publicly logged
20:22 gamambel            can i put this discussion on my website to explain what i'm looking for? :)
20:21 gamambel            yes
20:21 rangi               cait: yay!
20:21 wizzyrea            something like that?
20:21 gamambel            "owner: gamambel, location: wizzrea, available"
20:21 gamambel            "owner: gamambel, location: <currently lended>, return to: wizzrea, rangi, cait, gamambel"
20:20 wizzyrea            Ah
20:20 gamambel            they can keep it, as long as the system knows it is there
20:20 gamambel            wizzyrea: they don't have to return it to me
20:20 gamambel            i don't care where the item was in between, i want to make sure i can get it back (or tell people where it is to get it)
20:20 cait                found the problem :)
20:20 rangi               cait: hah?
20:20 wizzyrea            well, lending as in "I'm giving you this book (checking it out), and you can return it to matt, dick, harry, or any  of my other listed friends. Then they will return it to me"
20:19 gamambel            but not necessarily only distributed between my friends
20:19 gamambel            it's sort of a library in that my items can be returned to any of my friends
20:19 gamambel            something like that, but scalable
20:19 gamambel            and if i need it back i call the person
20:19 gamambel            i currently write down the name of the friend who i gave items to
20:19 gmcharlt            more like book routing
20:18 gmcharlt            but if I'm undersating gamambel correctly, it's not necessarily "lending" per se as a library would understand it
20:18 wizzyrea            hmm
20:18 gamambel            for circulating items, yes
20:18 wizzyrea            you're wanting a kind of social network for lending between friends
20:18 gmcharlt            right
20:18 wizzyrea            if I"m understanding
20:18 gamambel            right
20:18 wizzyrea            you're not lending, you're giving
20:18 wizzyrea            but bookmooch doesn't "Circulate" per se
20:18 cait                hah!
20:18 gamambel            also it is not quite the thing i am looking for
20:17 gmcharlt            gamambel: not open source, purely a service
20:17 gamambel            looks ugly
20:17 gamambel            is it open source?
20:16 oleonard            I tried bookmooch a while ago and got frustrated with the terrible interface
20:16 gamambel            any things i should look into other than koha then?
20:15 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6246 critical, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Acq: basket table broken
20:15 cait                working on bug 6246 now
20:15 cait                cool :)
20:15 rangi               cait: testing 6245 patch now
20:15 gamambel            bookmooch? never heard of that
20:15 gamambel            i guess none of the existing OPACs is :(
20:15 gmcharlt            bookmooch for tightly-knit groups, then?
20:15 wizzyrea            that's an interesting idea, but koha isn't really designed for *that*
20:14 gamambel            i don't want the book to circulate outside of the circle too much, but as long as it returns to the circle of my friends some time i am fine
20:14 gamambel            like bookcrossing in some sort, but more friend-to-friend
20:14 gamambel            basically i don't as long as it is in some catalog
20:14 gmcharlt            gamambel: in this system, how much do you care if a book doesn't get returned at all?
20:13 gamambel            but i think that is too complicated
20:13 gamambel            ideally it would be a distributed system like statusNet
20:13 gamambel            hehe right that too
20:13 rangi               judging by his hostmask, librarythings privacy policy is probably not up to scratch for this sort of thing :)
20:13 gamambel            and a searchable OPAC for my friends
20:13 gamambel            but it does not have the "i can return the item to any of his friends", does it?
20:13 gamambel            i am a member at librarything
20:13 gamambel            yeah i know librarything and goodreads
20:12 gmcharlt            or goodreads?
20:12 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6245] Can't oder from Z39.50 in acquisitions <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6245>
20:12 wizzyrea            have you looked into librarything at all?
20:12 gamambel            ;)
20:12 gamambel            in some sense we all have items
20:12 gamambel            i mean, everyone is a library, right?
20:12 gmcharlt            gamambel: it would be fairly radical, but yes, you could build what you want into Koha
20:12 wizzyrea            not individual items
20:11 gamambel            yes
20:11 wizzyrea            you mean the libraries are "friends"
20:11 wizzyrea            yea, I think so, it definitely does your base requirements of letting you circulate items and return them at branches other than their homes
20:11 gamambel            like a facebook for books
20:11 gamambel            more like "friends"
20:11 gamambel            no
20:11 gmcharlt            gamambel: would these communities fall into a hierarchy?
20:10 gamambel            but koha would be a good base?
20:10 wizzyrea            thing we thought we'd get back a few years ago
20:10 rangi               yeah, that concept doesnt really exist, you can only belong to one 'branch' currently
20:10 wizzyrea            that would be like the sysgroups
20:10 gamambel            i'm looking for the best suitable base system to start with
20:10 wizzyrea            yea, that would require work
20:10 gamambel            yeah i know
20:10 gamambel            like, if i am part of 3 communities, my stuff can be returned to any of the three communitiesw
20:09 rangi               that would need development work
20:09 gamambel            and to have "overlapping" communities
20:09 gamambel            i want communities to be able to register and create their own "library-of-trust"
20:09 gamambel            anything specific i should look into?
20:09 gamambel            wizzyrea: cool that's what i wanted to hear
20:08 rangi               s
20:08 rangi               thank
20:08 nengard             yes
20:08 wizzyrea            Koha can do that
20:08 rangi               nengard: so i can mark that bug resolved fixed?
20:08 gamambel            and i can use the website to locate the object
20:08 gamambel            i'm looking for an OPAC i can use for communities, and things can be returned to any of the community members
20:07 gamambel            nice team you got here!
20:07 wahanui             what's up, gamambel
20:07 gamambel            hi
20:07 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6245 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Can't oder from Z39.50 in acquisitions
20:07 cait                bug 6245
20:06 cait                sending one for acq now
20:06 jenkins_koha        Starting build 216 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:05 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6243 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Link to fast cataloging missing from circulation home page
20:05 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6230 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Search to hold links in result list
20:05 jenkins_koha        * Owen Leonard: Fix for bug 6243 - Link to fast cataloging missing from circulation home page
20:05 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6229 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Patron messaging table preview broken
20:05 jenkins_koha        * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6230: Search to hold links on titles in result list were missing
20:05 jenkins_koha        * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6229: Message preferences on patron details tab broken
20:05 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #215: SUCCESS in 1 h 6 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/215/
20:05 cait                the include file caused lots of problems
20:05 nengard             yeah - just tested and it works in staff and opac
20:05 cait                yep
20:04 nengard             one of her patches did the trick
20:04 nengard             cait fixed it though
20:04 nengard             hang on
20:04 nengard             i think
20:04 nengard             just the staff
20:04 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6241 critical, P5, ---, chris, NEW, links on lists missing bib number
20:04 rangi               nengard: bug 6241, just the staff side or the opac too?
20:01 nengard             not attending ... but i can be around specific times
20:01 nengard             I'll be presenting
19:59 rangi               nengard will be there im sure
19:57 SteveJ              Is anyone planning a get together at SLA in June? I searched the official schedule but did not see anything.
19:56 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6244, Javascript error on circulation home page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=87792339487dfc6464df2ac8dd79b50ebb4281ab>
19:54 rangi               yep
19:53 gmcharlt            at least, considering the way such policies run
19:53 gmcharlt            at least the official desupport of IE6 means that entities that care about such things *have* to do something
19:53 wizzyrea            :) well that would be ideal
19:53 rangi               SteveJ: there will be issues with 6 and staff
19:53 nengard             perfect
19:53 SteveJ              I would suggest getting rid of IE altogether, heh
19:53 wizzyrea            7 was a dog :P
19:53 * oleonard          agrees as well. And why not get rid of 7 too?
19:53 SteveJ              Oh I know it is an issue, but it is not something I have any control over:)
19:53 wizzyrea            at the very least :)
19:52 wizzyrea            I would probably agree with rangi: you need to work towards eliminating 6
19:52 rangi               its pretty much guaranteed to have some javascript issues somewhere on the staff side
19:52 rangi               even microsoft tell you not to
19:52 rangi               i wouldnt ever run 6 for anything anywhere ever
19:52 rangi               im less motivated to care about supporting old ie in the staff side, but i think 7+ for that
19:52 SteveJ              I found out that people are running everything from 6-8 at my office, and want to make sure that would not cause problems (both on the staff and opac sides).
19:51 rangi               well we strive to make the opac work in everything
19:50 SteveJ              Didn't know there was a difference, so lets say both
19:50 rangi               for the opac, or the staff side?
19:50 SteveJ              What is the IE browser compatability for the latest stable? 7+?
19:48 rangi               cool
19:48 cait                :)
19:48 cait                think I found it - I searched on the neworderempty but i think its the result list
19:48 cait                yup
19:47 rangi               sounds like a scope thing again
19:45 cait                when I oder from z39.50 and try to save i get an error about lost basket number
19:45 cait                hm
19:44 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6240 : pass a hash to template not a scalar <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01ccaf84e5dfc71e13a4a0d12ba422621909b953> / Follow-up fix for Bug 6168, Can't delete holds from circulation page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e33a071f0b72995c59d3f047d7161ce0b501453>
19:42 rangi               its something like that
19:42 rangi               overdues dont
19:42 rangi               i think hold notices, and checkin/checkouts do
19:42 cait                not sure which (speaking about email addresses)
19:42 cait                some end up there, but only very few
19:41 oleonard            Okay, I figured that might be the case
19:41 rangi               confused me to
19:41 rangi               oleonard: nope, they get pulled out when the mail is sent
19:41 oleonard            There are columns in the message_queue table for "to_address" and "from_address," but in my test system they're empty
19:40 nengard             um ... isn't that in the borrowers table?
19:40 oleonard            Does the message_queue table not actually store email addresses?
19:39 nengard             well it is a new computer after all :) hehe
19:36 wizzyrea            I think you can never get below 13
19:35 nengard             wow, i did good ... I had 13
19:34 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6236 : When checking for expiry don't try to process 0 dates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a56ada2f144f8212c5212d19ab886b7702d075c> / Bug 6237: remove compile time warning <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d663c7e8aae16a1b12c03af20b152b186829abf> / Bug 6237: Remove redeclarations of global vars in same scope <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha
19:31 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6240] edit subscription loses bib link <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6240>
19:31 * oleonard          has Firefox configured to clear most cookies when Firefox closes
19:30 wizzyrea            hmm
19:29 * chris_n           had >47 :-D
19:25 wizzyrea            ashamed.
19:25 wizzyrea            i had like 40something
19:24 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6232: Impossible to link authorities to bibliographic records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ecf4bb9a51d72ce1e871d23432daf1effa5d17f1> / Bug 6231: some system preferences in XSLT broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=224f382c7a1669c4fc8b297abaae5f499f889659> / Fix for Bug 6238 - Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing <http://git.koha-community.org/
19:24 wizzyrea            oy
19:22 chris_n             yeah, you just have to keep clicking... its amazing how many tracking cookies one attracts in a very short period
19:21 wizzyrea            chris_n: thanks, that's interesting
19:20 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6244] Javascript error on circulation home page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6244>
19:20 chris_n             for those who like their privacy: http://selectout.org/
19:20 wizzyrea            ha, no, actually
19:19 wizzyrea            working on something else
19:19 oleonard            She was probably with her family or some nonsense like that ;)
19:19 * cait              sends wizzyrea some cookies
19:17 cait                where were you?
19:17 cait                oh
19:17 wizzyrea            I missed the git class :(
19:17 cait                hm?
19:16 wizzyrea            i'm still kicking myself for missing that.
19:16 cait                ah, no I have a pretty empty one
19:16 cait                rangi showed me how to do that at kohacon :)
19:16 wizzyrea            I use a pretty big DB for my test server
19:16 wizzyrea            hm interesting
19:16 cait                and restore after testing
19:16 cait                hm for database updates I dump my database before testing
19:15 wizzyrea            every update you're testing?
19:15 wizzyrea            fresh one for every load?
19:15 wizzyrea            how do you guys manage your test DB's?
19:15 wizzyrea            practical*
19:15 wizzyrea            practicaly question
19:15 wizzyrea            so
19:15 wizzyrea            ah sok
19:15 cait                the database is gone now :(
19:14 cait                ind branches off i think
19:14 wizzyrea            INDY branches IS ON
19:14 wizzyrea            the biggies like
19:14 * wizzyrea          really wishes for a quick display of sysprefs
19:14 wizzyrea            ihow do you have your system set up?
19:14 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6234: Fixing missing biblionumber for links using biblio-default-view.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=93a18939e8753b578b97cc122010e57a995ae590>
19:14 jenkins_koha        Starting build 22 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:12 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit32: Revert "3.0.x: ce353e7 bug #3674 allow users creation with disabled password" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dbb2ba492350073869cebaf75e7e972053d50a0c>
19:07 wizzyrea            but
19:07 wizzyrea            me too
19:07 wizzyrea            well...
19:05 cait                but happy it's me and not a bug :)
19:03 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6239, Merging records broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0eaa391aa782ffe1ac469a0f624e62faf64c9919> / Fix for bug 6243 - Link to fast cataloging missing from circulation home page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=514a60270cc27a555f0587ef6211aabdba9a8cad> / Bug 6230: Search to hold links on titles in result list were missing <http://git.koha-comm
19:03 cait                no idea what happened
19:02 wizzyrea            seems odd that you'd be having trouble
18:59 cait                hm
18:59 cait                ah ok... 2nd screen
18:59 jenkins_koha        Starting build 215 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:59 cait                to the items list with no hold placed
18:58 cait                I came back to the holds screen
18:58 cait                because it didn't do it forme
18:58 cait                ad after ok the hold was placed?
18:55 wizzyrea            paste happy
18:55 wizzyrea            sorry 2nd
18:55 wizzyrea            http://screencast.com/t/BOPhepiNCNZ
18:55 wizzyrea            http://screencast.com/t/0VLmyD72tNh
18:54 wizzyrea            but it did let me do it
18:54 wizzyrea            seems odd it'd say "undefined"
18:54 wizzyrea            http://screencast.com/t/0VLmyD72tNh
18:54 wizzyrea            got it
18:53 wizzyrea            k
18:53 cait                there is one for holds
18:53 cait                search for override
18:53 wizzyrea            let me check my settings
18:53 wizzyrea            well, it won't even let me pick that
18:53 wizzyrea            k
18:53 cait                hm yes
18:53 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6229: Message preferences on patron details tab broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3205d768fe83f09bb4c81c0175557e753bc78b1>
18:53 wizzyrea            specific item hold?
18:52 cait                and it asks normally not ... you really want to?
18:52 wizzyrea            i'll check
18:52 wizzyrea            k
18:52 cait                where you get the yellow warnings in the holds screen
18:52 wizzyrea            hmm ok
18:52 cait                something like htat
18:51 cait                no place a hold on a item not for loan
18:51 wizzyrea            ?
18:51 wizzyrea            check out a book over a hold
18:51 cait                hm, I think it was a ref item
18:51 wizzyrea            what are you trying to override?
18:51 cait                I am resetting my database here to get back to a clean state right now
18:51 cait                the button wouldn't work
18:51 cait                the other thing was on this computer - the override holds
18:51 cait                it's my computer at work - so I think we can't really track it down
18:50 wizzyrea            hm
18:50 cait                on
18:50 wizzyrea            or off?
18:50 cait                yep
18:50 wizzyrea            AllowOnShelfHolds on?
18:50 cait                but feeling better about that now!
18:50 cait                wonder what's wrong with my settings
18:50 wizzyrea            on an on-shelf item
18:50 cait                yay
18:50 wizzyrea            for holds
18:50 wizzyrea            cait, I got a box
18:49 * oleonard          has been learning from rangi's patches
18:49 wizzyrea            not time for that, really
18:49 wizzyrea            wanted to make sure I didn't have to switch DB"s and reindex
18:49 wizzyrea            ty
18:49 rangi               wizzyrea: yes it is
18:49 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6243] Link to fast cataloging missing from circulation home page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6243>
18:49 rangi               man im glad git.k-c isnt in amazon
18:48 oleonard            I wouldn't have noticed that the link was missing just by looking at it
18:48 * chris_n           cheers rangi on
18:48 oleonard            I was looking for more instances of the same bug that cased the problem with the merge records page
18:47 cait                the fast add thing :)
18:47 cait                oleonard: good catch!
18:47 wizzyrea            rangi, master has 5579 in it now, correct?
18:45 cait                thx a lot
18:45 wizzyrea            k ii'll check that
18:43 cait                you know, with the override syspref activated, I got the confirmation window but couldn't place it
18:43 cait                and I had problems ovrriding a hold
18:43 rangi               yeah its very cool
18:43 cait                it's probably my setup - but would be happy to hear it works for you
18:43 oleonard            Wow, export/import frameworks? I didn't see that before
18:43 cait                on my work computer I put a hold on a on shelf item at the same branch and check-in didn't bring up anything
18:42 wizzyrea            i certainly *can* go over them again
18:42 wizzyrea            what specifically?
18:42 cait                or tested
18:42 cait                I had problems with holds -wizzyrea have you worked on those perhaps?
18:41 wizzyrea            anybody got a bot for the countdown :P
18:40 rangi               how many hours actually
18:40 cait                13:20?
18:40 rangi               13.20 again :)
18:40 cait                could be a long night :P
18:40 cait                14 hours - wow
18:39 cait                ok
18:39 rangi               and I will note in the release announcement that due to the template::toolkit change we expect there will be a few more unfound gotchas
18:39 rangi               any of these little patches, im not waiting on signoff for either, will just test them here and push
18:38 rangi               and release it at 10pm
18:38 rangi               im aiming to build the tarball at 8pm, which is in 14 hours
18:38 library_systems_guy oops wrong window :-/
18:38 rangi               theres prolly a lot of these little issues, the more we can get found and fixed the better
18:38 library_systems_guy exit
18:37 cait                ok
18:37 cait                oh
18:37 rangi               05:50 < cait> or just search for new bugs?
18:37 rangi               05:50 < cait> is there something that needs work right now?
18:37 * cait              is confused
18:36 rangi               i can sleep tomorrow
18:36 oleonard            Hi rangi, you can't have gotten enough sleep
18:36 cait                hm?
18:36 rangi               cait: just more testing
18:36 cait                hi rangi
18:36 rangi               morning
18:28 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6239] Merging records broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6239>
18:16 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6235] "Saved" message in sysprefs never gets hidden on IE8 <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6235>
17:55 jcamins_away        Follow-up patch 2.
17:54 jcamins_away        That's why we now have a test to check the behavior.
17:53 rhcl                gmcharlt: yes, ack response
17:53 jcamins_away        It caused data corruption.
17:52 jcamins_away        Wise.
17:50 cait                jcamins: really never touched that script
17:50 gmcharlt            rhcl: if so, doesn't seem relevant except to bodies that are themselves certification agencies
17:50 nengard             library_systems_guy, my hubby does web qa and he has tests he runs, but he has to then visit all the pages and click all the links and try all the forms ... so there is no way (except a human) to test things thoroughly
17:49 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5683 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, REOPENED, link_bibs_to_authorities.pl can corrupt records
17:49 jcamins_away        cait: you could sign off on the two follow-up patches to bug 5683.
17:48 gmcharlt            rhcl: do you mean ISO 17021:2011 ?
17:48 * moodaepo          should probably just email
17:48 cait                or just search for new bugs?
17:48 cait                is there something that needs work right now?
17:48 moodaepo            This needs to be updated to point to the koha-community blog > http://owu.towers.org.uk/
17:42 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6242] Javscript errors in label-item-search.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6242> / [Bug 6234] Links on hold ratios report broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6234>
17:41 jcamins_away        [off] I guess that was so that people would be laughing when they sent in complaints?
17:40 rhcl                Does ISO 2011 apply to Koha (or support companies) at all? "Conformity assessment -- Requirements for bodies providing audit and certification of management systems "
17:38 wizzyrea            [off]farkle. hee.
17:32 jcamins_away        person_who_did_the_fixed_fields_editor++
17:28 cait                but I think it's quite hard to do automatic testing on this things
17:28 cait                perhaps selenium
17:28 library_systems_guy the reason I'm curious is I'm taking Software Development and this is stuff we talk about in class all the time
17:27 library_systems_guy can you even develop testing modules for things like that
17:27 library_systems_guy I think i've learned a lot about how much librarians pay attention to the little details since ive started working in a library
17:27 cait                slightly broken tables
17:27 nengard             checkboxes and mis aligned columns
17:26 cait                library_systems_guy the little details
17:26 library_systems_guy guess that does make it challenging to test
17:26 library_systems_guy heh
17:26 nengard             we're looking to make sure the page looks right and does what it's supposed to do
17:26 nengard             we're looking for more than the page being there
17:25 nengard             library_systems_guy, I know you think I'm awesome ... but I'm not where near as awesome as rangi and he will get the releae out on time!! :)
17:25 library_systems_guy can you do a link based parser and check the page header or are you looking for more than just if the page is there
17:24 cait                but they don't catch template problems
17:24 cait                no, we have unit tests too
17:24 library_systems_guy or are there unit test available?
17:23 library_systems_guy right now is testing just somebody seeing if it works?
17:23 cait                np
17:23 cait                yep
17:23 oleonard            Thanks for your work on it
17:23 cait                oleonard: going to refactor the patch - thx for the comments
17:23 oleonard            Oh yeah I'm not saying things weren't getting fixed
17:23 cait                we all have a lot to do - but I think we need to find a way to do more systematic testing
17:22 cait                chris hall fixed a lot of things I reported
17:22 oleonard            I think we're still a ways from finding all the problems.
17:22 oleonard            The trouble with testing the TT branch was so much was broken, it was hard to get down to the small details
17:21 cait                but rangi decides
17:21 cait                I think that will not happen
17:21 library_systems_guy nengard: are you thinking of pushing back the release?
17:20 cait                nengard: yes, more testing before a big release like this is needed :(
17:20 library_systems_guy I know when i used it with catalyst I really liked it
17:20 cait                I think the nice things will come later
17:19 cait                or it feels like that
17:19 cait                at the moment i think we are only fixing it, not using
17:18 library_systems_guy speaking of TT stuff, how is everybody liking using it?
17:17 nengard             i feel like maybe we needed to test all this TT stuff sooner .. I know it was in it's own branch, but I never did anything with it :(
17:16 nengard             and I'll sign off on it :) hehe
17:16 nengard             awesome!!
17:16 cait                oleonard made some comments I have to build in
17:16 cait                nengard: is fixed by a patch I will resubmit
17:13 nengard             i'll do it - sorry if it's a dup
17:13 sekjal              nengard: not sure... I didn't
17:11 nengard_lunch       did anyone report the bug with lists in the staff client where if you click the titles they don't go anywhere?
17:00 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6238] Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6238>
16:54 Brooke_             chow
16:51 wizzyrea            their bit of aws was down earlier, but seems to be back now
16:51 oleonard            Offline circ for them I guess.
16:50 wizzyrea            oleonard: they do
16:49 * oleonard          wonders if Liblime still hosts there
16:49 Brooke_             the cloud, it's not what's for dinner.
16:48 nengard             hmmm hootsuite down too ... seriously do all these social sites use the same service? monopoly is bad
16:46 Brooke_             Truf.
16:46 Brooke_             I edited the wiki more than mah blog last release cycle.
16:45 * oleonard          wanders off on a business cat tangent
16:44 oleonard            The 500th business cat maybe?
16:44 wizzyrea            and brought it back up in another zone
16:44 Brooke_             dez catz were sleepin
16:43 wizzyrea            they probably got their EBS stuff out before it was impossible to do it
16:43 wizzyrea            heh, but it was down earlier
16:43 Brooke_             and the site is up, so it can't be their fault :P
16:42 Brooke_             oh no you di'int blame lolcats for an outage :P
16:41 nengard             hehe
16:41 * oleonard          suspects it happened when the millionth lolcat was posted to Reddit
16:39 wizzyrea            puns are simultaneously the best and worst form of humor.
16:39 wizzyrea            hehe
16:39 wizzyrea            < included
16:39 wizzyrea            there are techs all over totally FREAKING OUT
16:39 * gmcharlt          apologize profusely for that pun
16:39 gmcharlt            the hashtag #ec2 is all a-twitter
16:39 wizzyrea            you should see the AWS forums
16:38 wizzyrea            one of those cascading failure deals
16:38 wizzyrea            it's a big deal, apparently
16:38 nengard             its been down a while ... can't amazon get their act together?
16:38 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6168] Can't delete holds from circulation page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6168>
16:38 nengard             was very confused
16:38 nengard             yes i did
16:36 wizzyrea            if you had tried the home page you'd have seen ;)
16:36 wizzyrea            sure. It's why k-c.org redirects to download.k-c.org atm
16:36 nengard             me know
16:36 nengard             thanks for letting meknow
16:35 nengard             didn't know we were there
16:35 wizzyrea            so just wait
16:35 nengard             i just read about that being down
16:35 wizzyrea            which is where the website is
16:35 wizzyrea            ec2 is down
16:35 wizzyrea            nengard
16:35 nengard             anyone else?
16:35 nengard             I'm getting a 404 on the doc page; http://koha-community.org/documentation
16:30 cait                hi druthb
16:30 * druthb            waves to cait, and grins like a fool.
16:29 cait                hi Brooke_
16:29 * Brooke_           waves to cait
16:17 Brooke_             then you have done your duty, young man :P
16:17 oleonard            I dunno, half a dozen or so
16:16 Brooke_             but a few in I was dyin'
16:16 Brooke_             the first one was not terribly bril
16:16 Brooke_             did you catch more than one episode? Cause it's kind of like dexter so far
16:13 * oleonard          tried Big Bang Theory and didn't care for it
16:11 wizzyrea            kiwi-ism then :)
16:11 Brooke_             it ain't a britism
16:11 wizzyrea            I think that's a british/kiwi-ism
16:10 Brooke_             you heard me :P
16:10 oleonard            funny as?
16:09 huginn              Brooke_: The operation succeeded.
16:09 Brooke_             @later tell kf big bang theory is funny as
16:09 Brooke_             kia ora
15:48 Oak                 Hello oleonard :)
15:47 oleonard            Hi Oak
15:47 Oak                 \o
15:28 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6234] Links on hold ratios report broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6234>
15:28 kf                  will be back later for more bug hunting
15:28 kf                  oleonard++ even :)
15:28 kf                  oleonard+
15:28 oleonard            Thanks kf I'll test
15:27 kf                  bye all :)
15:27 kf                  I think there are more bugs hiding, but I am the last person here at work - time to leave
15:27 kf                  oleonard: patch sent
15:18 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6237] Recent changes leave compile time warnings in additem.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6237>
15:18 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6238 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing
15:18 jcamins_away        Thanks.
15:18 kf                  bug 6238
15:18 nengard             done
15:17 jcamins_away        nengard: if you could copy the error message into that bug, it would be helpful, I think.
15:16 hdl                 no But I donot want to know how much time a command take every time I launch a command... ;)
15:14 * jcamins_away      doesn't either
15:14 * wizzyrea          doesn't
15:14 jcamins_away        hdl: yeah, but do you remember to do that every time you run a script?
15:12 hdl                 wizzyrea "time yourcommand" i mean
15:12 hdl                 wizzyrea time yourcommand gives you the information
15:11 wizzyrea            though, with this aws thing today, i'm not feeling so kindly towards computers.
15:11 wizzyrea            such as it is
15:10 wizzyrea            only pure digital precision ;)
15:10 wizzyrea            none of this piddly manual writing things down nonsense
15:10 wizzyrea            jcamins_away++
15:10 gmcharlt            wizzyrea++
15:10 gmcharlt            touche
15:10 jcamins_away        Or, even better, a statistical summary at the end.
15:10 wizzyrea            ;)
15:10 wizzyrea            then you'd know
15:09 wizzyrea            and same when it finishes
15:09 wizzyrea            an echo of the datetime when it starts
15:09 wizzyrea            you know what you should add to the script
15:09 wizzyrea            >.>
15:09 wizzyrea            I"m just being honest
15:09 gmcharlt            ;)
15:09 gmcharlt            you could win the pole vault record with error bars that high!
15:08 oleonard            wizzyrea's ready to publish a scientific paper with precision like that ;)
15:08 jcamins_away        No, no 1m+ systems.
15:08 wizzyrea            so somewhere between 2 and 8 hours
15:07 wizzyrea            and it was done when I awoke the next morning
15:07 wizzyrea            well, to be honest I fell asleep, but it had been at least 2 hours when I went to sleep
15:07 jcamins_away        wizzyrea: actually wait. We might.
15:07 gmcharlt            wizzyrea: speaking of numbers, how long did remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl  itself take?
15:07 kf                  place hold on available book - check in book
15:06 kf                  can someone please tell me it works?
15:06 jcamins_away        But I'm guessing a *long* time.
15:06 jcamins_away        wizzyrea: no we do not.
15:06 wizzyrea            if you do, how long does an index take?
15:05 wizzyrea            jcamins_away: does bywater have any libraries in the millions?
15:05 jcamins_away        wizzyrea: ah. Yeah, it takes a while.
15:04 wizzyrea            which is an old copy of nexpress
15:04 wizzyrea            I didn't reindex nexpress, I reindexed my test server ;)
15:04 kf                  but I can return the book as often as I want, I get no slip
15:04 kf                  available for pickup
15:04 kf                  I was trying to get a book into my holds shelf
15:04 kf                  seems I am going crazy here
15:01 kf                  can' reproduce with other items
15:00 oleonard            I'm not seeing that
15:00 kf                  I I think I know the reason perhaps: I accidently picked an item with a hold on it
15:00 kf                  yes
15:00 oleonard            kf: It shows up twice on transferstoreceive?
14:59 jcamins_away        wizzyrea_away: why did you reindex NExpress?
14:59 kf                  seemed easier than doing it with a hold
14:59 kf                  yes
14:58 oleonard            kf: Did you use branchtransfers.pl to set the transfer?
14:55 kf                  can someone reproduce this?
14:55 kf                  now it shows up twice
14:54 hdl                 ah... More sensible to user interface.
14:54 kf                  new queston: I put an item into transfer to check the transferstoreceive for my master bug
14:54 kf                  oleonard: i will leave the dashed line for now
14:54 kf                  hmpf
14:53 oleonard            It makes all of us scrutinize everything for changes
14:52 hdl                 us ? united states ?
14:52 kf                  searching for tt bugs makes us more critical
14:51 hdl                 oleonard: was in 3.0 as such
14:51 huginn              jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
14:51 jcamins_away        @later tell nengard If you could copy the error we saw into bug 6236, I'd appreciate it. I can't duplicate on my VM.
14:51 hdl                 oleonard: yes
14:51 hdl                 oleonard: without adding some more descriptions
14:51 oleonard            To indicate that the two fields are grouped?
14:50 hdl                 oleonard: just to show an inner box and related informations
14:49 kf                  a guess, to show that both belong to Date due
14:49 kf                  hm
14:49 oleonard            hdl: Do you know what the intention was?
14:49 oleonard            I agree it looks weird.
14:49 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6049 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, christophe.croullebois, NEW, Add a filter by date in overdue.pl
14:49 oleonard            Added by Bug 6049
14:48 kf                  dashed borders?
14:47 kf                  hm
14:46 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1707 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED, Search for patron '%' returns all results
14:46 kf                  I use empty searches a lot
14:46 oleonard            Bug 1707
14:46 kf                  me neither
14:46 jcamins_away        oleonard: cool! I didn't know that.
14:46 oleonard            kf: you could always use '%' to search all
14:46 kf                  it looks funny
14:46 kf                  is that by intention?
14:45 jcamins_away        kf: probably not.
14:45 kf                  oleonard: can you look at something for me? the dashed border around the due date dates on /circ/overdue.pl
14:45 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6127 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Setting library on patron search brings back all patrons regardless of search
14:45 jcamins_away        bug 6127.
14:45 gmcharlt            koha-community.org and www.koha-community.org now point to the download site until EC2 is fixed
14:45 kf                  jcamins: was that supposed to make me feel better?
14:45 jcamins_away        See...
14:45 kf                  I do that all the time
14:45 jcamins_away        kf: the patron searching is entirely broken.
14:45 kf                  yep you werw
14:45 * oleonard          wasn't aware that you used to be able to search all that way
14:44 kf                  :(
14:44 kf                  hm that's quite a big change in behaviour
14:42 jcamins_away        kf: it does seem that an empty search doesn't return any results.
14:39 jcamins_away        One moment. I don't have a VM running.
14:39 kf                  noramlly you would get all by sending an empty search
14:39 kf                  jcamins: can you check patron search?
14:39 jcamins_away        I am.
14:39 kf                  ;)
14:39 kf                  file a bug
14:38 jcamins_away        So, it looks like the Receive button's broken with T::T.
14:38 kf                  oleonard: is patron search broken again?
14:32 kf                  doesn't seem to break things
14:32 kf                  when I kill that, the link is gone
14:31 kf                  it's a <p class="ratiolimit">
14:31 oleonard            Clicking the hold ratio number populates the "refine results" form with that number.
14:30 oleonard            Hm, that's new to me
14:29 kf                  but why the ratio?
14:29 kf                  the title yes - and it works now after the change
14:28 kf                  I wonder why the ratio is a link on that page
14:26 kf                  i will do this one and go home after it
14:26 kf                  and it works :)
14:26 kf                  oleonard: it's ok
14:25 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6235] "Saved" message in sysprefs never gets hidden on IE8 <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6235>
14:25 oleonard            kf: I'd be happy to work on this if you'd like
14:24 oleonard            [% INCLUDE 'biblio-default-view.inc' %]
14:24 oleonard            [% biblionumber = SEARCH_RESULT.biblionumber %]
14:24 oleonard            <p>[% SEARCH_RESULT.result_number %].
14:24 oleonard            Oh, because someone already fixed it
14:24 oleonard            I wonder why catalog/results.tt is working?
14:23 kf                  let me test
14:23 kf                  not change it?
14:23 kf                  ah
14:23 kf                  how must the include look like ?
14:23 kf                  hm ok
14:21 oleonard            We modify the include in each of those instances to pass the biblionumber variable to the include
14:21 oleonard            [% INCLUDE 'biblio-default-view.inc' biblionumber= reserveloo.biblionumber %]
14:21 oleonard            Here's my guess:
14:17 kf                  http://spedr.com/2tbB7QrI
14:17 kf                  often
14:16 kf                  I wonder how often this included is used
14:13 kf                  I will leave a comment
14:13 kf                  ok
14:12 oleonard            I'd say make it new for now
14:12 kf                  or make it new / add you back
14:12 kf                  can I reassign this one to you?
14:12 kf                  hm ok
14:10 oleonard            I'm tempted to wait for chris to wake up and ask him if there is some kind of wizardry he can suggest
14:10 oleonard            kf, I don't know what to say about that one.
14:08 oleonard            Yes it does
14:07 kf                  hope my explanation makes any sense...
14:07 kf                  does the include even make sense now with the scoping?
14:07 kf                  I think to fix it I need to add a scope this time - but will break the include
14:06 kf                  biblio-default-view.inc
14:06 kf                  that reserveratio.tt uses an include
14:06 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6234 normal, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Links on hold ratios report broken
14:05 kf                  ok, looking at bug 6234
14:05 oleonard            Yes
14:05 kf                  oleonard: do you have a second?
14:05 kf                  uhoh
14:03 kf                  maybe reappeared?
14:03 kf                  yes, that was fixed
14:02 wizzyrea_away       ah
14:02 oleonard            Anyway, it stems from the record being part of a series. Koha thinks (thought?) series == serial, and wants (wanted?) to show serial info under 'publication details'
14:00 wizzyrea_away       i realized after I posted it
14:00 wizzyrea_away       it may be, that was the 5579 branch
14:00 oleonard            I know what's going on there. Thought it was fixed.
14:00 oleonard            wizzyrea_away: I saw your link in the log http://screencast.com/t/skbpuaqFhU
13:57 oleonard            But now I see it just fine.
13:57 oleonard            I guess it was a fluke. I could see the messaging table for every account but my own.
13:56 kf                  i am in full bug fixing mode today
13:55 kf                  tell me waht you see :)
13:55 * oleonard          checks again
13:55 oleonard            Oh wait, maybe not?
13:54 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6229 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Patron messaging table preview broken
13:54 oleonard            kf, I'm seeing something weird when testing your patch for Bug 6229
13:53 kf                  oh, foudn new bug
13:53 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6231] System preferences in XSLT view broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6231>
13:49 kf                  gmcharlt: patch sent
13:47 wizzyrea_away       pretty cool
13:46 wizzyrea_away       yep
13:46 sekjal              oh noes!
13:46 wizzyrea_away       :/ ec2 having troubles, which is where our website is :(
13:38 * jcamins_away      returns you to your regularly scheduled programming
13:38 sekjal              jcamins_away:  good to know, thank you
13:37 jcamins_away        sekjal: note that the first time you create a package it takes a really long time because it has to download all the dependencies.
13:31 sekjal              hi, kf
13:31 kf                  hi sekjal
13:30 Brooke_             0/
13:29 Brooke_             cause it let me save what I was editing
13:28 Brooke_             the wiki does not seem to be busted
13:28 oleonard            Ouch. Error establishing a database connection
13:28 Brooke_             thought it was my connection but the other interwebs are otay
13:27 Brooke_             community site has gone all wonky on meh
13:27 Brooke_             hmph
13:24 * jcamins_away      is glad he didn't do it.
13:24 jcamins_away        gmcharlt: ah.
13:22 gmcharlt            jcamins_away: overzealous automatic script that did s/URL/url/ in a couple places
13:19 jwagner             Avaunt, spirit from the vasty deep!
13:19 * jcamins_away      isn't here, but he's curious- what was wrong with the XSLTs?
13:10 kf                  ok
13:08 gmcharlt            no, doesn't look like it
13:07 kf                  UNIMARC too?
13:06 kf                  yes, I will check all 3 files
13:05 gmcharlt            as was MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl
13:05 gmcharlt            kf: MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl was mangeld as well
13:04 gmcharlt            kf++
13:04 oleonard            Is there a wizzyrea awake yet?
13:04 kf                  gmcharlt: I will write a patch
13:03 kf                  hi jcamins
13:03 * Brooke_           waves to jcamins.
13:03 kf                  4133 files changed!
13:02 gmcharlt            http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=5884fb100071e973daf671a4ada6b32724376768
13:02 gmcharlt            try this
13:02 gmcharlt            hmm, looks like not
13:00 kf                  with commit and the full commit hash?
13:00 kf                  I treid but got no result
12:59 gmcharlt            you can also search git.koha-community.org for that commit hash
12:59 gmcharlt            kf: yeah, that looks like a squashed patch, you have to page down til you get to the bit that changes the xslt
12:58 kf                  is there a better way? lots of css stuff?
12:57 kf                  I did a git show with the commit id
12:57 kf                  hm
12:56 kf                  let me check if I see it this time
12:56 gmcharlt            ok
12:56 kf                  I can do
12:56 gmcharlt            rangi: are you writing a patch?  If not, I'll do it
12:56 kf                  and don't coe back again before morning!
12:56 kf                  sleep well rangi
12:55 gmcharlt            rangi: sleep well
12:55 rangi               right, back to sleep i go, ill push the fixed xslt patch in the morning :)
12:55 gmcharlt            kf: I lend you my eyes, next time you'll lend me yours ;)
12:54 rangi               case ones are hard to spot
12:54 kf                  I was looking at those files like forever and didn#t see it :(
12:54 kf                  phew but still
12:54 rangi               phew
12:54 rangi               ahhh
12:54 * kf                grumbles
12:54 kf                  oh no, and I missed it
12:53 gmcharlt            the syspref names as referred to in the XSLT are case-sensitive, that patch, for whatever reason, changed the case in a couple cases
12:53 rangi               ta gmcharlt
12:53 gmcharlt            rangi: 5884fb100071e973daf671a4ada6b32724376768 broke it
12:52 kf                  but otherwise no clue
12:52 kf                  I suppose it worked for the signoffer
12:52 kf                  the things abut usetracings
12:52 kf                  after UseControlNumber
12:52 kf                  I think jareds options were probably the last to get in
12:51 rangi               kf do you know when it last worked?
12:50 kf                  to reproduce I mean
12:50 kf                  or check if the link shows up in the result list
12:50 kf                  it's easy to check: look at a record with an url and change the urlinnewwindow thing
12:50 kf                  gmcharlt: thx
12:49 rangi               i put a warn in C4/XSLT.pm
12:49 gmcharlt            kf: the syspref values are injected into the XML when the page is rendered
12:49 kf                  column
12:49 kf                  I can see nothing in my marcxml table
12:47 kf                  rangi: where do you see them?
12:47 kf                  noone was around until oleonard showed up and shortly after that it got crowded
12:46 rangi               can others reproduce?
12:46 kf                  I found the problem with online resources on my latpop and on my work computer
12:46 rangi               i cant tell, i can see all the sysprefs being set in the xml
12:45 kf                  but you can reproduce?
12:45 kf                  can I say for me it feels like one?
12:45 rangi               but its weird, as nothing has changed that i can tell
12:45 kf                  I know...
12:45 rangi               there is no data loss
12:44 rangi               its def not a blocker
12:44 kf                  was going to check that when I found my next bug
12:43 kf                  I am not sure if it will break authorities too (the an number search)
12:43 kf                  I was tempted to mark that blocker
12:40 hdl                 mmmm... strange.
12:39 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6232] Can't link authorities to bibliographic record <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6232>
12:39 rangi               afaict nothing has changed
12:39 oleonard            ?
12:39 kf                  ?
12:39 gmcharlt            yep
12:38 rangi               [Fri Apr 22 00:39:43 2011] opac-search.pl: <syspref name="OPACURLOpenInNewWindow">0</syspref>
12:38 rangi               [Fri Apr 22 00:39:43 2011] opac-search.pl: <syspref name="hidelostitems">0</syspref>
12:38 rangi               [Fri Apr 22 00:39:43 2011] opac-search.pl: <items xmlns="http://www.koha-community.org/items"></items><sysprefs>
12:38 kf                  not good enough
12:38 kf                  kinda ruled templates out too - think the variable is not passed, but don't undersatnd how that works
12:37 kf                  while I am runnign from one bug into another today? :)
12:37 kf                  rangi: shouldn't you sleep?
12:37 rangi               shows them being set in the xml
12:37 rangi               adn a warn in C4/XSLT.pm
12:37 rangi               i dont think its template::toolkit related either, since it doesnt use that
12:36 Brooke_             oi! stop using your x ray vision. Bugzilla doesn't like it.
12:35 * gmcharlt          looks further
12:35 gmcharlt            no, I don't think it's related to 5579
12:34 * gmcharlt          looks
12:33 kf                  I wondered if that could be related to the recent changes for items and xxml
12:33 kf                  bug 6231
12:33 kf                  or you might know!
12:33 kf                  hi gmcharlt
12:32 * Brooke_           smiles at gmcharlt.
12:32 gmcharlt            good day
12:31 kf                  I am not sure how the system preferences should be passed to the xslt
12:31 kf                  in xml
12:31 kf                  I wonder if the problem is that we got rid of the items?
12:31 kf                  thx a lot
12:31 oleonard            Sure, I'll take a look
12:30 kf                  yes - that evil bug
12:30 kf                  ah sorry, system preferences in xslt
12:30 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6231 critical, P1, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, System preferences in XSLT view broken
12:30 oleonard            Bug 6231?
12:30 kf                  was trying to check if it also breaks authorities linking when I raninto the next bug
12:30 oleonard            What's up?
12:30 kf                  I am really stuck on that :(
12:30 kf                  oleonard: could you take a look at the xslt system preferences?
12:29 oleonard            kf++
12:29 kf                  oleonard++
12:19 oleonard            Hi all
12:19 Brooke_             0/
12:14 kf                  and I am digging for the next template bug
12:14 jwagner             OK, I'll have to dig some more. Thanks.
12:14 kf                  yes
12:13 kf                  all on 3.2.2
12:13 kf                  hm, ok, one 2 of our librares use rfid, but 4 don't
12:13 jwagner             So when your staff are checking out, and they scan an item, it goes ahead & completes the transaction?
12:13 kf                  never got complaints and our scanners are usually programmed like that
12:13 kf                  it should work the same for both
12:12 jwagner             Question on the circ checkout page. I've had people complaining that with a barcode reader programmed to put a return after scanning, checkins accept that as if you'd clicked the submit button, but checkouts don't.  Is that deliberate?
12:12 kf                  can someone test if linking an authority to a record works fort hem?
12:07 Brooke_             authorities are magical beasts best looked at but not touched.
12:06 kf                  I wonder if authorities linking works without systempreferences in xslt
12:04 Brooke_             odd, does here, too
12:04 kf                  these holidays are disturbing -t oday feels like friday
12:04 kf                  yes
12:04 Brooke_             is in eNZed
12:03 kf                  aha! today is not the 22nd
12:03 Brooke_             midnight + kids.
12:03 Brooke_             ^
12:03 kf                  ok, it's probably too late for him
12:02 kf                  I think chris made him forget
12:01 Brooke_             oh that is so not good enough.
12:01 wahanui1            i think rangi is going to recommend that ppl using other languages wait for 3.4.1
12:01 kf                  rangi?
11:44 nengard             hiya
11:44 Brooke_             hey nengard
11:43 jwagner             Hi AmitG
11:38 AmitG               heya jwagner
11:34 kf                  ?
11:33 * Brooke_           turns over boxen in search of the Classification Code for Cutter...
11:30 jwagner             Hi kf
11:30 kf                  hi jwagnre
11:18 kf                  definitely the system preferences
11:18 kf                  ok
11:18 kf                  ok
11:17 * Brooke_           thinks you need some sleep, because you've been at this too long.
11:17 kf                  the 3.4 one
11:17 kf                  ok... too late for the big release
11:17 Brooke_             it is never too late with regular releases :D
11:17 kf                  why do one always discover such things when it's too late??
11:16 Brooke_             harrumph
11:15 kf                  I started with: urls don't show up on result list
11:15 kf                  I am not quite sure yet
11:15 Brooke_             (also works on Frenchies)
11:14 Brooke_             (I can always make a German happy ;)
11:14 kf                  was ist los ;)
11:14 kf                  I think xslt doesn't work with system preferences any more
11:14 Brooke_             vas is loss?
11:14 Brooke_             aww :(
11:14 kf                  no, an h
11:14 kf                  lol
11:13 Brooke_             I hope that's missing an n and not an h
11:13 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6212 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Small display problems in OPAC results
11:13 kf                  bug 6212
11:13 kf                  bug6212
11:13 Brooke_             :)
11:13 kf                  *sigs*
11:13 kf                  kia ora Brooke
11:11 Brooke_             kia ora!
11:07 kf                  hmpf
10:15 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6230] Search to hold links in result list <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6230>
09:53 huginn              New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6229] Patron messaging table preview broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6229>
09:49 kf                  and all becaue I wanted to test a new notcie for one of my libraries
09:42 kf                  rangi: sent
09:17 Waylon              anyway.. night all.
09:17 Waylon              anything else i haven't added to....
09:16 Waylon              nginx++
09:16 Waylon              hdl++
09:16 Waylon              rangi++
09:16 Waylon              Thankyou hdl and rangi!
09:16 Waylon              okay.. gotta sleep.
09:15 kf                  rangi++
09:15 kf                  patch coming up
09:14 kf                  and now it works!
09:14 kf                  bummer I missed that ne
09:12 Waylon              wow, thats fast
09:11 Waylon              plack works for the intranet side too?
09:11 hdl                 architecture is quite specific and uses 3 different machines....
09:10 hdl                 http://cat-plack.univ-lyon3.biblibre.com/
09:10 hdl                 Plack is working quite nice.
09:09 Waylon              ahh! nginx + fastcgi.. too much problems.. but nginx + plack, works well?
09:08 rangi               then that should fix the last column
09:08 rangi               needs to be fixed
09:08 rangi               [% UNLESS ( messaging_preference.messaging_form_inactive ) %]
09:08 rangi               line 126
09:07 rangi               so it doesnt show that, except when editing
09:06 kf                  ?
09:06 kf                  [% UNLESS ( messaging_form_inactive ) %]<th>Do not notify</th>[% END %]
09:04 kf                  but still the last column is slightly broken
09:04 rangi               yay
09:04 kf                  rangi: all greyed out now
09:04 Waylon              just looked it up... given .. when.. is neat!
09:03 Waylon              ahh
09:03 hdl                 It is not in the official code
09:03 hdl                 I have that in my code.
09:03 kf                  :)
09:03 kf                  sure
09:03 wahanui1            hdl: I forgot it
09:03 hdl                 Waylon: forget it...
09:03 rangi               cool thanks
09:03 rangi               all the ones with messaging_preference.messaging_form_inactive
09:03 kf                  on it
09:02 rangi               74, 92 etc
09:02 rangi               needs the same thing
09:02 rangi               line 56
09:02 Waylon              given when?
09:01 hdl                 Waylon: it informs the perl interpreter to decode the given when structure
09:01 rangi               yeah
09:01 kf                  perhaps there is some more
09:01 kf                  but not the whole table
09:01 kf                  the pulldown for the days of the advacne notice got greyed out
09:01 kf                  hm interesting
09:00 hdl                 If you have given...when in it
09:00 Waylon              hdl: huh.. what does it do?
09:00 rangi               cool thanks
09:00 kf                  trying to do that right now :)
08:59 hdl                 add the line "use feature 'switch';"
08:59 kf                  yep
08:59 rangi               kf did you see above?
08:59 Waylon              ahh. what needs to be altered in opac-detail?
08:59 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6229 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Patron messaging table preview broken
08:59 kf                  bug 6229
08:59 hdl                 (It is an http lightweight wrapper)
08:59 kf                  ok, bug is 6229
08:58 Waylon              ahh
08:58 hdl                 nope starman comes with plack
08:58 hdl                 And use nginx as a proxy to port 5000 + servicing static files directly
08:58 Waylon              hdl: starman = nginx?
08:58 rangi               if that works, i think we have fixed it
08:58 hdl                 you can launch KOHA_CONF=.... PERL5LIB=.... starman --workers 12 --port 5000 /path/to/prod.psgi
08:58 rangi               can you try changing that to [% IF ( messaging_form_inactive ) %]
08:57 rangi               [% IF ( messaging_preference.messaging_form_inactive ) %]
08:57 Waylon              hdl: yup. we've just got  two new servers, unused so far.. because i need to migrate the koha... thinking.. good oppertunity to optimize everything.
08:57 rangi               line 39
08:57 rangi               kf: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/messaging-preference-form.inc
08:56 kf                  and you can mark it works for me ;)
08:56 hdl                 you have to add a use feature 'switch' in opac-detail.pl
08:56 kf                  rangi: I will make a bug, add my screenshots
08:56 hdl                 it works in fact
08:55 hdl                 With Opac, it may work
08:55 hdl                 test before getting in production.
08:55 Waylon              hmm...
08:55 hdl                 Waylon: yes... But use with caution
08:54 Waylon              hdl: nginx, fastcgi and plack, can replace apache?
08:54 kf                  rangi: is it greyed out for you on the details tab?
08:54 rangi               hdl: i referred him to you to reinforce that you cant just switch on fastcgi and have it work, there are persitent variables and circular references in the code that need to be fixed first
08:54 hdl                 Waylon: you may use http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=blob;f=prod.psgi;h=bc6507d8c877785f86b6eb2f6ff975b1f8618e9e;hb=a633db1447d8fa4e6569d4359d42f71dc3c6cc6e
08:54 hdl                 Waylon: if you have fastcgi and plack install
08:54 kf                  so, why is my table broken. hm.
08:53 rangi               ah right
08:53 kf                  no preview
08:53 kf                  opac has onle the edit screen
08:53 kf                  yes
08:53 rangi               kf: is it ok in the opac?
08:53 kf                  aha
08:53 Waylon              hdl: yeah.. but rangi refered me on to you, as hes .. amazingly busy getting the 3.4 out. so.. nginx and fastcgi isn't enough? need apache too?
08:53 rangi               ill look
08:52 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6163 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, patron messaging form screwy in multiple places
08:52 rangi               Bug 6163 : Fixing typo in updatedatabase
08:52 kf                  it should be greyed out
08:52 rangi               yes
08:52 hdl                 Waylon: rangi might be more active for that... you can create an apache vhost and use nginx as a proxy
08:52 kf                  and it should look different
08:52 kf                  yep, all edit screens look nice, but the table on the details tab is broken
08:51 kf                  but I have stil a broken table on the summary screen - on the edit screen it works
08:51 rangi               ill check the git blame
08:51 rangi               right, so it might have been broken then fixed
08:51 kf                  I added the underscore - the name shows correctly now
08:51 kf                  Advance
08:51 rangi               or Advance
08:51 Waylon              woo. cool. hdl: Koha via nginx .... how do i do it?
08:51 rangi               what is in the db kf, Advanced
08:50 hdl                 Waylon: ?
08:50 hdl                 ?
08:50 rangi               its fixed now
08:50 Waylon              hdl, you responsive?
08:50 rangi               $dbh->do("UPDATE message_attributes SET message_name = 'Advance_Notice' WHERE message_name='Advance Notice'");
08:50 rangi               yep
08:50 kf                  and the table breaks - that makes sense. it also does that when you miss to select the sample notices and transports during install
08:49 kf                  aha
08:49 rangi               lemme check
08:49 kf                  ok, but why was Advanced Notice not changed
08:49 rangi               right the updatedatabase must be wrong
08:49 rangi               was the one i was thinking of
08:49 rangi               ah yeah you cant have spaces in variable names
08:48 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6222 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Patron messaging preferences tables does not appear when modifying patron
08:48 kf                  bug 6222
08:48 kf                  it's message name in message_attributes
08:48 rangi               6222
08:48 kf                  but why?
08:48 kf                  Notice
08:48 kf                  they all have underscored -but not Advance Notiv
08:48 kf                  aha
08:47 kf                  Item Due has changed to Item_due
08:47 kf                  I notice that the message names in the database have changed
08:47 kf                  I am talking about the preferences table
08:47 kf                  hm, commit message is about the tabs
08:46 AmitG               heya rangi, kf
08:46 rangi               one from colin
08:46 rangi               b993d2d2317720370d64f7fcca2230f9164ebeef
08:46 kf                  hm
08:46 kf                  and updated various times
08:46 kf                  it's quite old
08:45 kf                  I wonder if it's my database
08:45 kf                  events yes
08:45 rangi               a 6 something one
08:45 rangi               there was another one
08:45 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5328 critical, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron Messaging Preferences Table Is Missing Checkboxes
08:45 kf                  bug 5328
08:44 kf                  ok, not that one
08:44 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5238 minor, P5, ---, cnighswonger, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Fatal error when saving printer profile if paper bin field is blank
08:44 kf                  all I found was bug 5238
08:44 rangi               i bet its a scoping thing again
08:43 kf                  and I never get advance notice
08:43 kf                  in staff it's broken on the summary page
08:43 rangi               i see that in both
08:43 kf                  I only see that in opac
08:43 kf                  looking for owens bug now
08:43 rangi               thats cut and paste from my page
08:42 kf                  yes
08:42 rangi               Days in advance	Email	Digests only?	Do not notify
08:42 rangi               Do not notify
08:42 kf                  hm.
08:42 kf                  I am in master and git pulled...
08:41 kf                  with checkboxes
08:41 rangi               what do you see?
08:41 kf                  the last colum should be Don't notify
08:41 rangi               Digests Only
08:41 kf                  hm no
08:41 kf                  I have deleted all other language folders
08:41 rangi               and the last colum is DIgest Only
08:41 kf                  it must be english
08:41 rangi               yep
08:40 kf                  you have Advance Notice there?
08:40 kf                  mah
08:40 kf                  yes english
08:39 rangi               cos it showing ok for me
08:39 rangi               in english eh?
08:37 rangi               hmmm
08:35 kf                  I will add screenshots
08:35 rangi               i doubt i am going to have time to do anything about it, but if you update the bug someone else might be able to
08:34 kf                  in opac the table looks right, but there is still Unknown
08:33 * rangi             hasnt been working on that, just pushed the patch from owen
08:33 kf                  staff
08:33 rangi               opac or staff?
08:33 kf                  and insted of Advance notice it says Unknown??
08:32 kf                  the header is missing from the last column, the layout is a little broken and it looks like it can be edited on the summary page - but it shouldn't have the checkboxes there, only when you open it for editing
08:30 kf                  rangi: the messaging table still seems to be broken
08:23 kf                  hmpf.
08:22 kf                  will upload it tonight and people can get it from pootle if they want
08:22 kf                  ok
08:20 kf                  and emptied the bin...
08:16 kf                  I have deleted the mail with the file it seems :(
08:16 kf                  oh no
08:14 rangi               i wont be making anymore before the release
08:14 kf                  or both of you
08:14 kf                  rangi: you think it's save to update from that file later?
08:13 fredericd           I agree that for Staff it puts Pootle server on its knees
08:13 kf                  I was not sure if rangi will make omre changes and didn't want to scare people by making it uncomplete again and again
08:13 fredericd           for OPAC it should work
08:12 kf                  if you say it's ok I can do that now
08:12 kf                  I was not brave enough for uploading it
08:11 fredericd           kf: Isn't it on Pootle?
08:10 kf                  for testing?
08:10 kf                  fredericd: want me to send you my translated german opac file?
08:10 rangi               and you can see the tags easily
08:10 rangi               because comments are comments
08:10 kf                  checking templates for translation issues
08:10 rangi               i find the tempaltes much much easier to read
08:10 kf                  perhaps we need a I18N qa
08:10 rangi               it is a lot easier to see with tt
08:09 fredericd           a good article on the subject: https://gist.github.com/909197
08:09 kf                  normally it's me yelling at them :P
08:09 rangi               hard, but possible
08:09 kf                  hm but probably hard to write a test for that?
08:09 rangi               then jenkins can yell at them :)
08:09 rangi               that complain about untranslatable strings
08:09 rangi               if we write some tests
08:08 rangi               we should pester them more
08:08 kf                  I can understand that - but it's still annoying :)
08:08 rangi               yes
08:08 kf                  but developers forget about translation very easy
08:08 kf                  rangi: right, that's much easier!
08:08 rangi               <if> whole sentence <else> whole sentence <end>
08:08 fredericd           like _( in javascript
08:07 kf                  I hope it will be a little easier with TT now
08:07 fredericd           the solution could be to modify ALL templates to explicitelly mark what has to be translated
08:07 kf                  I never got all the ifs and else right again
08:07 rangi               its better to do
08:07 kf                  but I tried it once and gave up
08:07 kf                  there is a lot of that in the borrower accoutns page
08:07 rangi               would be the right thing to do
08:07 rangi               yes, fixing the templates for that
08:07 kf                  being constructed like <part sentence> <if else constructs> <part sentence> etc.
08:06 fredericd           where you need to rearrange words, variables, in the sentence
08:06 kf                  I would like to get rid of those sentences int he templates
08:06 kf                  you are right probably
08:06 fredericd           it's not that easy for other languages
08:06 kf                  ah
08:06 kf                  and having no placesholders makes it harder
08:06 fredericd           I mean that in German or French you can find a sentence which has a similar syntax than the English one
08:05 kf                  and there was not a lot of testing too
08:05 kf                  don't know
08:05 kf                  hm sorry fredericd?
08:05 fredericd           but I don't understand why other languages translators aren't complaining more!
08:05 kf                  rangi told me that with the new syntax it's hard to see if something is a real placeholder or a directive
08:05 fredericd           it can work now with German and even French
08:04 kf                  I can understand it - but I am not sure there is a perfect solution for that
08:04 kf                  hm, I think the basic thing is: copy it over and change only the english parts
08:03 kf                  I think a good example are all the pulldowns with formats on the advanced search page
08:03 fredericd           I have a translator who isn't an IT person, and she complains...
08:03 kf                  yep
08:03 kf                  there are a lot of cases where a trailing space at the end makes the string fuzzy
08:03 rangi               the trailing whitespace?
08:03 kf                  and there is a minor improvement we could make:
08:02 kf                  it's a lot more placeholders - that's right
08:02 kf                  xslt and javascript translation work now
08:02 kf                  but nothing obvious
08:02 kf                  I have completed opac and foudn no problems there in testing - still can have some hidden probles
08:02 fredericd           with TT based strings
08:02 fredericd           If it works I will update Pootle
08:01 kf                  I was testing the translation scripts all week
08:01 fredericd           ok
08:01 rangi               but kf updated them all using the tt files
08:01 fredericd           Are you working on them or on TT based .po files?
08:01 kf                  I did it with poedit on my laptop
08:01 kf                  yes
08:01 fredericd           kf: On Pootle, German .po files are those based on HTML::Template
08:01 kf                  making it hard to find out what belongs together
08:00 kf                  before it would cut such things into  pieces
08:00 kf                  and you can see more clearly how sentences are constructed
08:00 kf                  but it also gives more flexibility
08:00 kf                  fredericd: I translated an updates opac po file and agree that you have to be careful
08:00 rangi               yes, people will need to be careful and to test
07:57 fredericd           Yes, but here we have placeholders for TT directives not for variables coming from Perl script
07:57 rangi               translators have moved, deleted placeholders in the past
07:56 rangi               yep, that has always been the risk tho
07:56 fredericd           risk that translator move placeholders and so break template.
07:56 fredericd           the text to translate but to accomodate TT condition tags. There is a
07:56 fredericd           to translate %s %s %s are not here for containing variables related to
07:56 fredericd           It's not very clear for translators. The placeholders in the string
07:55 fredericd           msgstr "Document mis de coté à <b> %s </b>"
07:55 fredericd           msgid "%s %s %s Item waiting at "
07:55 fredericd           #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-user.tt:397
07:55 fredericd           #. %3$s:  IF ( RESERVE.found )
07:55 fredericd           #. %2$s:  IF ( RESERVE.atdestination )
07:55 fredericd           #. %1$s:  IF ( RESERVE.wait )
07:55 fredericd           In OPAC .po file it becomes:
07:55 fredericd           Item waiting at <b> [% RESERVE.wbrname %]</b>[% IF ( RESERVE.formatted    waitingdate ) %] until [% RESERVE.formattedwaitingdate %][% END %]
07:55 fredericd           [% IF ( RESERVE.found ) %]
07:55 fredericd           [% IF ( RESERVE.atdestination ) %]
07:55 fredericd           [% IF ( RESERVE.wait ) %]
07:55 fredericd           <td>
07:55 fredericd           In opac-user.tt, line 397, you have that:
07:55 fredericd           rangi: What do you think of this case?...
07:44 kf                  good morning #koha
07:30 rangi               but that wont be tonight
07:30 rangi               there is only one more thing I might do, and that is remove trailing whitespace
07:30 rangi               nope i think between cait and I we got it working pretty well
07:19 fredericd           rangi: Are you still working on TT parser for translation tools?
06:28 Waylon              one vote for squeeze... hmm... only one problem with it... my host doesn't have it as a os reload option... so im going to have to put a iso image in a lockbox then attach it via imdi... ah what fun new things im learning today.
06:24 alex_a              hi cait
06:18 cait                bonjour alex_a
06:17 rangi               squeeze
06:17 rangi               my catalyst one
06:16 alex_a              bonjour #koha
06:13 cait                hm.
06:12 cait                rangi: probably the if clause we constructed does not work correctly
06:07 Waylon              okay! debian lenny or debian squeeze?
06:07 cait                which mail?
06:07 cait                thx rangi
06:04 rangi               thats fine
06:04 cait                I can send you the patch as far as I get with notes, would this be ok?
06:03 rangi               all the wine lovers at work thought it was great
06:03 cait                ah :)
06:03 cait                was it good?
06:03 rangi               very good bordeaux from paul
06:03 rangi               I can look at when the wine wears off
06:03 cait                updating from 3.2.4 also gives one about privacy
06:02 cait                and one of them my stocknumber thing
06:02 rangi               hmm
06:02 rangi               orly
06:02 cait                but starting from before items.stocknumber was introduced into the db (so that it's created by the updatedatabase) gives me all kinds of database errors
06:01 rangi               send the patch ill fix the numbers
06:01 cait                It's correct when you start with a 3.2.2 or 3.2.4 I have confirmed that now
06:01 cait                I am working on the itemsstocknumberidx thing
06:01 rangi               oh :)
06:01 cait                the version numbers and comparing
06:00 rangi               on the bus on the way home
06:00 rangi               whats confusing?
05:25 cait                hmpf. that is confusing.
05:21 cait                rangi: around?
04:50 Oak                 good night Gallagher
04:49 cait                good night brendan
04:47 Oak                 \o
04:47 bg                  night all
04:36 cait                h ikmkale
04:36 kmkale              hi cait
04:33 cait                hmpf.
04:33 * druthb            makes whining noises, and points at that ill-begotten Destiny system she's trying to convert.
04:32 cait                ?
04:32 cait                why are you awakeẞ
04:32 druthb              hi, cait.  :)
04:23 cait                hi bg :)
04:23 bg                  good evening
04:23 bg                  heya cait
04:22 cait                good morning #koha
04:13 druthb              where I lived in west Texas, it routinely got above 38 in the summer, but rarely more than 41.  And it was dry as a mother-in-law's kiss, not that soaking-wet humid kind of hot.
04:08 * space_librarian   remembers 44 degrees. It was no fun.
04:04 druthb              that is fierce.
04:04 druthb              whew
04:03 kmkale              yeh. No AC as the buildings are not completed yet :(
03:58 space_librarian     That's horrible.
03:58 space_librarian     yikes!
03:58 kmkale              :(
03:58 kmkale              hi space_librarian it was too much. Reached home 9pm 4hrs driving total. Outside temp was about 44
03:57 kmkale              hi druthb
03:57 space_librarian     namaste kmkale. How was the trip yesterday?
03:57 druthb              Namaskar, kmkale.
03:57 kmkale              Namaskar #koha
03:41 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3674 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, REOPENED, Creating users with empty password
03:41 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6224 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, New patrons created with an OPAC login but no password are assigned a default password
03:41 jenkins_koha        Chris Cormack: Bug 6224 : Revert "3.0.x: ce353e7 bug #3674 allow users creation with disabled password"
03:41 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #214: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/214/
03:26 AmitG               heya Brooke_
03:26 Brooke_             0/
03:01 jenkins_koha        Starting build 214 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:01 jenkins_koha        * Galen Charlton: bug 6227: tweak release notes
03:01 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6227 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, deprecate NoZebra for 3.4.0
03:01 jenkins_koha        * Galen Charlton: bug 6227: adjust description of NoZebra syspref
03:01 jenkins_koha        * Galen Charlton: bug 6227: remove search engine question from installer
03:01 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #213: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/213/
02:46 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6224 : Revert "3.0.x: ce353e7 bug #3674 allow users creation with disabled password" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05eb43f5fc00889420e03845b5059d80bf1663ad>
02:39 Brooke_             0/
02:36 Brooke_             ye're up late.
02:35 Brooke_             0/
02:22 jenkins_koha        Starting build 213 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:22 jenkins_koha        Chris Cormack: Updating updatedatabase.pl to try to stop duplicate upgrades being run
02:22 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #212: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/212/
02:09 Brooke_             I like that one.
02:09 Brooke_             :D
02:09 wahanui1            Brooke_ is hearing no objections
02:09 rangi               hey Brooke_
02:09 Brooke_             kia ora!
01:51 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: bug 6227: tweak release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b52bd0a88c45e63c8e4644abe6a0b2f0a2475a40> / bug 6227: adjust description of NoZebra syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd2760bd169d8b8d1184a053a9db617975081327> / bug 6227: remove search engine question from installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7382cc31584
01:44 Waylon              ?
01:44 Waylon              tar backups or lvm snapshots on bare bones system... restoration..... how/
01:43 Waylon              xen gives me online backups via its tools... or via lvm snapshots.. and restoring.. bring down vm, bring up snapshotted vm.
01:42 jenkins_koha        Starting build 212 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:42 jenkins_koha        Chris Cormack: Updating upgrade instructions
01:42 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #211: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/211/
01:41 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Updating updatedatabase.pl to try to stop duplicate upgrades being run <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=00fe00c729e8fc5e53fa7c9c8073f2d60b41bc4c>
01:37 brendan__           not to xen is the answer
01:33 Waylon              to xen or not to xen.. that is the question..
01:26 rangi               heh
01:26 gmcharlt            gotta make sure Koha is ready to support the Lunar Colony Library
01:26 rangi               and it will be my new demo record
01:26 rangi               now i have to find a record that uses that
01:24 rangi               mein gott
01:24 huginn              rangi: The coded form of the mathematical data contained in field 255 (Mathematical Data Area) of the bibliographic record. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,m,n,p,r,s,t,x,y,z,2,6,8]
01:24 rangi               @marc 034
01:24 rangi               srsly?
01:24 rangi               distance from earth
01:20 rangi               gmcharlt++
01:18 rangi               cool yeah that seems to work, (monkeying with the version number in the db)
01:17 rangi               but yep i have that at top of the script
01:16 gmcharlt            oh, right
01:16 rangi               without the transform
01:16 rangi               well its just C4::Context->preference
01:16 gmcharlt            yes, assuming that my $original_version = TransfromToNum(C4::Context->preference('Version'));
01:15 rangi               my brain is not working good, thats what you meant eh?
01:15 rangi               if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion) && $original_version < TransformToNum("3.02.00.005")) {
01:10 rangi               thanks
01:10 rangi               yeah ill do that
01:10 gmcharlt            yep
01:10 rangi               so set a variable before we do anything recording the number we are coming from
01:09 rangi               oh yeah thats better
01:09 gmcharlt            and adjust the specific 3.3 updates to check to see if the applicable 3.2.x update was already run
01:09 rangi               sorry?
01:08 gmcharlt            rangi: that or have updatedatabase.pl record the original version number
01:08 rangi               the danger i can think of, is that someone coming from early 3.3.x that hadnt upgraded in a while will miss some
01:08 rangi               worth doing?
01:07 rangi               thats the point where they diverged
01:07 rangi               http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl;h=b51edd694cfb0f261200a6e5d11f917701517bf1;hb=9d5ab23d7c7bbbf2c83f9cddd15d730a62bb651a#l3809
01:06 rangi               which would mean anyone coming from 3.2.x wont get the upgrade spazzing on them
01:06 rangi               im tempted to move them up and change them to match the 3.2.x numbers
01:06 Waylon              could just use straight Xen.... hmm..
01:06 rangi               they are repeated in master (cos thats where they come from)
01:05 rangi               there are some updates that do inserts
01:05 rangi               in the updatedatabase.pl for 3.2.x
01:04 rangi               ok
01:03 jenkins_koha        Starting build 211 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:03 rangi               yay no asplode
01:03 jenkins_koha        * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: tweaks to bulkmarcimport.pl
01:03 jenkins_koha        * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: remove a now-unecessary vestigal variable
01:03 jenkins_koha        * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: add line removed during patch review
01:03 jenkins_koha        * Matthias Meusburger: bug 5579 : Fixes ISBD display
01:03 jenkins_koha        * Matthias Meusburger: bug 5579 : Fixes several exports to embed items
01:03 jenkins_koha        * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: teach MARC export to embed items when needed
01:03 jenkins_koha        * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: remove unused routines
01:03 jenkins_koha        * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: remove sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl
01:03 jenkins_koha        * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: reduce processing to log item changes
01:03 jenkins_koha        * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: new routine to embed items in bib
01:03 jenkins_koha        * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: correctly signal when to reindex bibs
01:03 jenkins_koha        * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: fix moving items from bib to another
01:03 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml
01:03 jenkins_koha        * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: improvements to remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl
01:03 jenkins_koha        * Henri-Damien LAURENT: Bug 5579: remove items from MARC bib
01:03 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #210: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/210/
01:01 Waylon              but xenserver hot snapshotting seems better than tar-ing.
01:01 gmcharlt            rangi++
01:00 huginn              New commit(s) kohagit: Updating upgrade instructions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff2ad23521ea19ef904f3a7615e10e745a28f9dd>
01:00 Waylon              hmmmmm... lose 1.1gigs hdd to OS, per VM.... and 255 mb.
00:54 druthb              As neither is here, I would presume not, Waylon.
00:49 Waylon              is hdl or sekjal available?
00:37 druthb              bg++
00:35 druthb              shux, boss, I din't do anything...
00:33 bg                  druthb++
00:30 druthb              mhm
00:30 space_librarian     I think that was wonderful.
00:29 * druthb            reads http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/release_notes/release_notes_3_4_0.txt; lines 12-14, and just cries and cries.
00:26 druthb              rangi++
00:24 jenkins_koha        Starting build 210 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:23 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6215 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Pagination links missing on lists pages
00:23 jenkins_koha        Chris Cormack: Bug 6215 : Fixing a bug with virtuallists
00:23 jenkins_koha        Project Koha_master build #209: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/209/
00:19 gmcharlt            hdl: good night
00:18 rangi               sleep well
00:18 hdl                 see you
00:18 hdl                 time to go to bed
00:17 hdl                 KiokuDB seems to be concensual in Modern::Perl galaxy
00:17 rangi               that chilts had used
00:16 rangi               starts with r
00:16 rangi               right, theres another one like that, i forget its name
00:12 hdl                 It would allow us to store some objects directly on disk... Would be a big + for tests
00:12 hdl                 seems really good.
00:11 rangi               no, is it good?
00:11 hdl                 have you played with KiokuDB?
00:11 rangi               if we do it right, we should be able to phase persistance in
00:11 rangi               get them going, and then move others over
00:11 rangi               we move them to Koha:: first
00:11 rangi               i think for all those services
00:10 rangi               yup
00:10 hdl                 the more we introduce Json and ajax, the more we will need DBIx::Class.
00:09 rangi               to try it on a bigger client
00:09 rangi               hdl: yes, i plan after the release (when i have time)
00:09 rangi               hdl: i think the Koha:: namespace gives us the opportunity to introduce DBIx::Class in a more controlled manner, first only on services that are persistent perhaps
00:09 hdl                 Is it still working ok ?
00:09 hdl                 rangi: which success did you have with Plack Implementation for circulation.
00:08 rangi               hdl yep a very good thing ;)
00:07 hdl                 But at the moment, there still is the problem of data persistence. which would slow down the things.
00:06 hdl                 gmcharlt: about your comment... Yes. I am more in favour of DBIx::Class than SQLHelper.
00:06 huginn              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml
00:06 hdl                 so bug 5579 did make it... that's a thing.
00:02 * rangi             goes back to the kitchen
00:02 rangi               oh crap i forgot my coffee