Time Nick Message 00:29 druthb kia ora. :) 00:35 rangi heya 00:56 druthb :) 00:56 eythian hi 00:56 wahanui salut, eythian 01:11 glernil can someone help me on configuring nullmailer to send notifications? 01:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6156, Misaligned column in cart print view <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b81eedb36ab8467295417f11bc8b5fe539b756f> / Bug 5859: Allow user to set encoding for import <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=415ea18007f58ee5d616de41cdef437d49568cc9> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3072' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=co 01:11 rangi glernil: you have a smarthost that nullmailer is relaying through? 01:12 glernil smarthost? i just want to use gmail.. is it possible? 01:12 rangi ah yes 01:13 glernil i already read much from different sources.. but i just can't figure it out.. 01:13 glernil i already installed nullmailer 01:13 rangi are you in production yet? 01:13 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5251 01:13 huginn 04Bug 5251: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, Add support for using a gmail account as an SMTP server. 01:14 rangi cos thats in 3.4.0 to be released on friday (available in git now) 01:14 glernil i'm not in production.. i'm still testing the feature on a virtual machine 01:14 jenkins_koha Starting build 192 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #190 4 j 2 h ago) 01:14 glernil i'm using 3.2.7 the latest bug fix version 01:15 rangi lemme check if it is in there 01:15 rangi i think it is 01:15 glernil tnx 01:16 rangi ah nope not in 3.2.7 01:16 rangi thats a shame 01:17 rangi i havent ever actually done it with nullmailer im afraid 01:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6185, holds slip says 'reserve' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1efda7ceb45649b0b80cc6ab5cb8ddbe7149644a> 01:23 glernil is there any wrong in using nullmailer? 01:23 rangi nope should work afaik 01:23 rangi ive just never configured it 01:23 glernil ok.. but will it be included in 3.4? 01:24 rangi not using nullmailer but a way to do it 01:24 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5251 01:24 huginn 04Bug 5251: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, Add support for using a gmail account as an SMTP server. 01:24 rangi if you have a read of that 01:24 rangi but i think people have done it with nullmailer in the past 01:24 rangi basically 01:24 rangi if you can send mail from the commandline 01:24 rangi mail -s "test" your@email.address 01:25 rangi type some stuff 01:25 rangi hit ctrl-d 01:25 rangi if that works then koha will work 01:25 rangi so basically you just have to get nullmailer able to send mail, its pretty independent of koha 01:25 * rangi hopes that helps 01:26 glernil i tried to send email using mail -s "test" your@email.address but there is an error 01:26 rangi what was the error? 01:26 glernil Please install an MTA on this system if you want to use sendmail! 01:26 glernil Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 255 01:27 glernil so this means i havent configured right my nullmailer installation? 01:27 rangi so im guessing nullmailer is not running/configured 01:27 rangi yeah 01:27 glernil so i have to configure first nullmailer.. tnx 01:27 rangi yup 01:28 rangi once you can send mail from your machine, then koha will be happy too 01:28 glernil ok. got to work on it.. 01:29 glernil can you give any site for my reference? 01:30 rangi yep 01:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4389 - [tt] Trigger quick slip print on empty checkout submit <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=63df8b42fe2332da40ae819b67b2585b25d1a5c9> 01:31 rangi http://jonspriggs.posterous.com/use-gmails-smtp-gateway-using-the-command-lin 01:31 rangi looks like it might work 01:31 rangi bearing in mind i have never tried this 01:32 glernil i tried the instructions in that link but i got an error on the second line 01:33 glernil thanks for the help.. gtg. bye 01:33 rangi hello hello :) 01:34 rangi if you want to choose a different nickname hello you can type 01:34 eythian glernil: the commands there need to be split up across multiple lines 01:34 hello Motwlibrary 01:34 eythian they aren't like that in the blog 01:34 rangi /nick somethingelse (without the leading space) 01:36 rangi or you could close the window instead : 01:36 rangi ) 01:37 ibeardslee heh 01:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6189 - renewal warning should say 'renew' not checkout <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=80cd49f8f752bb426e3797e263da03725360cf34> / Remove redundant variable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c09c12e6a9fc0576fc807952fbae5625a4b9d5d> / Bug 6195 : Opac user should not have serial manage tab <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdif 01:43 rangi trying mibbit instead eh? 01:43 mib_renae ok im a begiiner have no idea what im doing 01:44 mib_renae im trying to find Chris 01:44 rangi thats ok, mostly you just type 01:44 rangi you found him 01:44 mib_renae oh great im from MOTWLibrary we have been tweeting 01:45 rangi yup 01:45 mib_renae is that u 01:45 rangi yes 01:46 mib_renae can u help me get Koha running on my linux/ubuntu stand alone 01:46 rangi sure can, what version of ubuntu? 01:46 mib_renae maverick 01:47 rangi cool 01:47 rangi are you familair with linux? 01:47 mib_renae would it be better if i was on it now as im not at the moment 01:47 mib_renae no only put linux on for Koha and I have it duel with windows 01:48 mib_renae im have a little bit of understanding as i have tried to install koha already 01:49 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_Up_Koha_in_Virtual_Environment_%2B_Using_That_as_a_Development_Environment#Step:_Install_Koha 01:50 rangi i would follow that, but for this line 01:50 rangi deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze-dev main 01:50 rangi i would make 01:50 rangi deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main 01:51 rangi but if you follw the rest of the instructions you should have a working koha up, using the packages (which makes upgrading very easy) 01:51 rangi thats the way i would do it at least 01:52 mib_renae does it matter if i have already install stuff or should i start from clean install 01:52 rangi how did you install stuff the last time? 01:52 mib_renae of linux i mean 01:52 mib_renae command line in ubuntu 01:52 rangi nope, you dont need a clean linux 01:53 rangi but you dont have a half installed koha already? 01:53 rangi if so, probably easiest to start clean 01:53 rangi but if you have just installed some other software, thats fine 01:53 mib_renae what would be a half install 01:53 mib_renae i downloaded it and unzipped it 01:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #192: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/192/ 01:54 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 3072: Add Heading-Main and Any to MARC21 DOM 01:54 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5859: Allow user to set encoding for import 01:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3072 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, 'Heading-Main' authority-index breaks authority searching in STABLE 01:54 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6156, Misaligned column in cart print view 01:54 rangi well you have 2 options we can keep going with that route, if you can remember where you got up to, or you could start fresh with the packages 01:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5859 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Can't set character encoding with stage MARC records 01:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6156 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Misaligned column in cart print view 01:54 jenkins_koha Starting build 193 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #190 4 j 2 h ago) 01:55 mib_renae what is all that 01:56 rangi thats just one of the bots (a program) running tests on koha 01:56 rangi it does it every time a change is made 01:57 snail mib_renae: think of it as a quality control over the code 01:59 mib_renae ok so i am a little lost where im upto as i hve back tracked trying to get it to run i get to the mysql to cd to koha and it wont find it 01:59 mib_renae says theres no file when it is clearly ther 01:59 mib_renae anyway i will try what u gave me and start again if that is not working i will reinstall linux and start fresh 02:00 rangi cool, using the packages will make your life a lot easier when upgrade time comes 02:02 mib_renae ok so u r saying all i have to do is use the packages and it will do most of it for me 02:02 mib_renae using the terminal 02:02 rangi yes 02:03 mib_renae i just had a look at the link i jus type in the instructions and change the line and thats it 02:03 rangi yeah you just have to follow the instructions 02:04 mib_renae ok so if there is any problems can i talk to u again 02:04 rangi yep 02:05 mib_renae great alright then im determined to get Koha happening for the library thank so much for your help 02:05 mib_renae cheers 02:05 rangi no problem good luck 02:06 eythian rangi: fyi there still seem to be references to html::template::pro in koha 02:07 mib_renae not sure what u r saying is this important 02:07 eythian not to you it isn't :) 02:08 mib_renae ok bye then 02:08 rangi eythian: yeah there will be the odd custom script that wasnt using C4/Output 02:08 eythian yeah 02:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #193: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/193/ 02:34 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6185, holds slip says 'reserve' 02:34 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 4389 - [tt] Trigger quick slip print on empty checkout submit 02:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6185 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, holds slip says 'reserve' 02:34 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6195 : Opac user should not have serial manage tab 02:34 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Remove redundant variable 02:34 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6189 - renewal warning should say 'renew' not checkout 02:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4389 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Trigger quick slip print on empty checkout submit 02:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6195 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, manage tab in opac on serials 02:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6189 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, renewal warning should say 'renew' not checkout 02:56 mib_renae Hello chris 02:57 mib_renae having some trouble 02:59 mib_renae r u there 02:59 eythian Hey everyone, 3.2.7 packages uploaded (and a new 3.3 from master) 03:00 eythian mib_renae: you should describe your trouble, otherwise no one can help. 03:03 mib_renae ok chris gave me install instructions for Koha in terminal on ubuntu it says kohabox$ not a command 03:03 rangi thats an example prompt 03:04 eythian everything after the '$' is the command you type. That way it looks sorta like the prompt in your own terminal. 03:04 rangi what he said :) 03:04 mib_renae oh ok now i feel simple 03:05 eythian :) 03:05 mib_renae where it says add this line do u put that in on the same command line or next line 03:05 druthb rangi++ #freekin' BRILLIANT! 03:06 space_librarian I guess the crosswalking will work then? :) 03:06 rangi mib_renae: that bit above it the sudo vi bit 03:06 rangi that should have opened vi (a text editor) 03:06 rangi you might be better off typing 03:07 rangi sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list 03:07 rangi and then at the bottom of the file it opens add 03:07 rangi deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main 03:07 mib_renae ok will do that 03:07 * rangi has to do go prepare for a demo tomorrow but i will be back later 03:09 druthb space_librarian: buy him a beer for me, plz? 03:10 space_librarian druthb: I can do that, no probs 03:10 druthb thanks oodles. 03:11 space_librarian :) 03:18 AmitG heya all 03:18 AmitG heya chris 03:21 mib_renae h chris got a problem again 03:21 mib_renae when i get to bottom of the file where do i add this line 03:24 mib_renae there is no add at the bottom 04:21 mib_renae hello 04:21 wahanui privet, mib_renae 04:22 mib_renae need help with koha install 04:22 rangi where did you get to? 04:22 rangi have you added that line to the bottom of the file? 04:23 mib_renae using ubuntu mav after sources list command line get there is no add line to add deb http koha community line 04:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5917' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad37f3e5e7175cb3a2a5785d552f6e06affaea97> / 5917 : Working on the translation script, fixing the line breakages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7caa309ed7e71bd3c83358e891b9c5fdfa3bab8> 04:24 mib_renae get a e325 before going into it 04:25 rangi what command did you run? 04:25 mib_renae trying to add the line but it wont let me or Im doing it wrong 04:25 rangi yes, what exactly did you run to edit the file? 04:26 mib_renae sudo vi etc/apt/sources.list 04:26 rangi right well what i said was 04:27 rangi 15:08 < rangi> you might be better off typing 04:27 rangi 15:08 < rangi> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list 04:27 mtj or use nano or pico, to edit files? 04:27 rangi because i dont think you have ever used vi before right? 04:27 mib_renae no 04:27 rangi mtj: they wont be installed, gedit will 04:27 mtj n00bs find those editors a bit easyier 04:28 mib_renae gedit is that like vi 04:28 rangi no 04:29 rangi its more like notepad on windows 04:29 jenkins_koha Starting build 194 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #190 4 j 5 h ago) 04:29 mib_renae oh 04:29 mib_renae im really green on this stuff 04:30 mib_renae can u give me the exact command to do 04:30 rangi sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list 04:30 mib_renae i tried that but i get a whole row of arrow things 04:30 mib_renae i will try again can u wait 04:32 mib_renae ok got it up now so i just go to the end and start typing in the commands 04:32 rangi cut and paste would be better 04:32 rangi and there is only one line you have to type there 04:32 rangi deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main 04:33 mtj mib_renae: you simply need to practice 'editing a file' before you are going to succeed... 04:33 mib_renae ok ive done that now i just save and exit 04:33 mtj mib_renae: have a google-about for 'editing a file on ubuntu' 04:34 mib_renae ok 04:34 mtj yep, thats right 04:35 mtj make sure you dont have any typos, computers are bitchy about typos 04:35 mib_renae ok now i just do the next lot of commands 04:35 rangi yes 3 commands 04:35 rangi then another file to edit 04:35 mib_renae the first command has a long bar i dont recognise what is it 04:35 mib_renae after asc 04:36 rangi thats why i said cut and paste 04:36 rangi but if you need to type it 04:36 rangi its on the \ key 04:36 mib_renae oh double line 04:36 rangi shift+\ on most keyboards 04:36 mib_renae got it 04:36 eythian mib_renae: don't type it 04:36 eythian mib_renae: copy and paste it 04:36 eythian you _will_ make a mistake and it will get confusing if you type it. 04:36 mib_renae from the wiki file 04:37 eythian yeah 04:38 mib_renae ok will do probably be back im sure thank u once again 04:49 mib_renae hello again 04:50 mib_renae im upto confirguring nullmailer 04:50 mib_renae what do i do 04:52 eythian I wouldn't. I'd leave that until later when other things are working. 04:52 mib_renae -i have just selected ok 04:52 rangi nullmailer? 04:52 kmkale Namaskar #koha 04:53 mib_renae it t was a blue screen for configuring 04:53 eythian talofa kmkale 04:53 eythian oh righ 04:53 eythian well then it's probably working, assuming you filled it out 04:53 kmkale hi eythian 04:53 kmkale hi rangi 04:55 space_librarian hey kmkale 04:55 kmkale hi space_librarian 04:55 kmkale :) 04:55 space_librarian :) 04:55 mib_renae i didn't put anything in just selected ok 04:56 eythian well, when you selected OK, what was it telling you? 04:57 mib_renae nothing just went to the next screen I did the same thing it left the configure box and kept doing the setting up stuff 04:58 eythian yeah, but it only pops up those boxes when it's giving you information or telling you that you need to do something. What did it say? 04:59 * space_librarian waves good evening. 04:59 mib_renae it was about mail 04:59 mib_renae i can't remember it all sorry 05:00 mib_renae iam 05:01 mib_renae iam in the sudo vi /etc/koh/koha-sites.conf do i just type cut and past the next lot of commands 05:02 eythian well, they're not commands. They're things to put into the text file. But yes. Although, I'd suggest using 'gedit' instead of 'vi' as was recommended earlier. 05:02 mib_renae well how do i get out of the vi 05:02 mib_renae to gedit 05:02 eythian press ESC, then :q! 05:03 eythian then enter 05:03 mib_renae ok so same line but use gedit right 05:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Updating package lists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=139d3a81f732b380a5f569470d8c1c0b5cc84d64> 05:03 eythian yes 05:05 cait hi #koha 05:05 mib_renae ok so im in this box so i just cut and past the lines 05:05 eythian hi cait 05:05 eythian yep 05:05 cait hi eythian :) 05:06 mib_renae then save and exit 05:06 eythian yeah 05:09 mib_renae ok done the last 3 lines am is it all complete now 05:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #194: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/194/ 05:09 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: 5917 : Working on the translation script, fixing the line breakages 05:09 jenkins_koha Starting build 195 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #190 4 j 6 h ago) 05:10 eythian should be 05:11 mib_renae ok thank you so much i just leave the terminal now is that ok 05:11 eythian yep 05:11 cait !jenkins botsnack cookie 05:11 jenkins_koha cait: great! yum yum. I really like that cookie 05:11 mib_renae great :D im very happy 05:12 mib_renae thank you all 05:12 eythian Although, if you're planning on running a production server, I'd _really_ recommend either getting someone to teach you sysadmin skills (not a small field) or just getting someone to maintain it for you. 05:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5917 : We need to catch the comments for the xslt to work <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aed8bfab6423ac9314a3f2ce146781dfa50938ce> 05:25 cait rangi++ 05:31 cait ... installing 05:39 cait ...updating 05:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #195: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/195/ 05:49 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Updating package lists 05:49 jenkins_koha Starting build 196 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #190 4 j 6 h ago) 05:56 cait rangi? 05:56 wahanui well, rangi is asking for a vote on the next meeting i think 05:57 cait forget rangi 05:57 wahanui cait: I forgot rangi 05:58 cait @later tell rangi xslt seems translatable now 05:58 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 05:59 cait @later tell rangi Cart and LIsts buttons won't translate, tabs in borrower account (my ...) are also not translated 05:59 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 06:00 cait @later also we have a gazillion comments in the po file, that need no translation "%s<!-- We tried to issue, but failed. --> " 06:00 huginn cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 06:00 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 06:01 cait @later tell rangi also we have a gazillion comments in the po file, that need no translation "%s<!-- We tried to issue, but failed. --> " 06:01 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 06:01 cait hm ok 06:02 braedon ... perhaps i am just sleep deprived, but i am totally confused by that exchange... 06:03 cait I was leaving messages for rangi and the bots felt left out 06:05 braedon haha, so i figured, but some of their replies... 06:05 braedon they seem to have been upgraded since i was last here - perhaps too much? :P 06:06 cait not sure, we like them 06:07 cait they can do a lot of useful things : 06:07 braedon until they try and turn us into batteries :) 06:07 cait :) 06:07 * braedon awaits the electric shock through his keyboard 06:12 cait hi Irma :) 06:17 AmitG heya cait 06:29 cait hi AmitG 06:29 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 06:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #196: FIXED in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/196/ 06:29 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5917 : We need to catch the comments for the xslt to work 06:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit 06:36 francharb hello #koha 06:39 alex_a bonjour #koha 06:40 cait bonjour francharb and alex_a :) 06:43 alex_a Guten Tag cait 06:43 cait :) 06:43 alex_a :) 06:43 pastebot0 "cait" at 78.51.68.36 pasted "#. %1$s: Template::Toolkit Dir" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/14 06:44 cait @later tell chris the $s are always Template::Toolkit Directive now: http://paste.koha-community.org/14 - should show the variable names instead, so you can guess what goes in there 06:44 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 06:45 cait time to change my identity - ttyl :) 06:47 glernil good day! 06:50 glernil how can i configure koha to send check out and check in messages? 06:51 glernil i can send email already using the command line. i used ssmtp as my mta 06:52 magnuse kia ora #koha 06:58 julian hi #koha ! 07:06 rangi cait: i can probably do that but i thought that was better than ERROR for now 07:06 rangi i was more concentrating on fixing the splitting lines 07:07 rangi which i think is now working 07:10 rangi glernil: thats all in the manual 07:11 rangi lemme find you the link 07:15 rangi glernil: you have to turn on the EnhancedMessaging preferences 07:22 rangi @later tell kf if i remove the comments, xslt is no longer translatable 07:22 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 07:23 rangi @later tell kf no idea about the buttons, are they js again? 07:23 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 07:23 rangi @later tell kf basically we have run out of time for 3.4.0 its as good as it going to get for the release, more fixes will have to wait for 3.4.1 07:23 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 07:24 mib_renae hi having abit more trouble 07:24 mib_renae cant get the password it is denying me access in the conf.xml file 07:25 glernil rangi: i turned it on already.. yet the status of the message in the msg queue is failed 07:27 mib_renae can u tell me the password 07:27 wahanui the password is random. 07:28 mib_renae ok thank u 07:31 mib_renae sorry it is not working 07:31 magnuse mib_renae: wahanui is a bot, he has no idea what he's talking about... 07:31 magnuse wahanui: forget the password 07:31 wahanui magnuse: I forgot password 07:31 mib_renae how do i get the password 07:32 magnuse mib_renae: what password? 07:32 magnuse bonjour hdl 07:32 hdl hi magnuse 07:33 rangi @later tell gmcharlt do you think 5579 is ready to merge 07:33 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 07:33 mib_renae the password to access koha on my desktop the koha-conf.xml file denies me access 07:34 rangi the password will be in the koha-conf.xml file 07:34 mib_renae yes i know but it wont let me access it 07:34 rangi what did you call your site when you did the koha-create? 07:34 mib_renae it denies me 07:34 rangi use sudo 07:35 mib_renae koha is what is said on the command line 07:35 mib_renae i just cut and pasted it 07:36 rangi sudo cat /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml 07:36 rangi that will print out the file for you 07:36 mib_renae i dont have a printer connected will it show on the screen 07:37 rangi yes 07:37 mib_renae ok thank u i will try that 07:42 mib_renae ok which one is it 07:43 kf jo 07:43 kf hi #koha 07:44 jenkins_koha Starting build 197 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 07:48 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Release notes for 3.4.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a3414a624be0e6173df8284e420a963245afe62> 07:52 magnuse hm, looks like the fix for bug 6160 was only partial, nengard reported a similar problem on bug 5671 07:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6160 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, my details not showing tabs 07:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5671 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED, Add a column of custom HTML to "my summary" 07:59 pastebot0 "rangi" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "for kf" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15 08:00 rangi kf: fixed one thing 08:00 rangi that looks better eh? 08:01 kf yes 08:02 kf better :) 08:02 kf in this case 2 strings would be fine - it's really hard :( 08:02 kf quite sure there is no perfect solution 08:03 kf I think in the old system we didn't get the if/else things as placeholders, but only variables 08:03 kf not sure we can make it work like that again and this will be good in all circumstances 08:04 rangi yeah 08:04 rangi i dont think we can get it to drop out the if, and foreach etc 08:05 rangi tmpl was a bit easier in that respect 08:05 rangi cos they were all TMPL_VAR or TMPL_IF etc 08:05 rangi but [% anything can go here %] 08:05 rangi i think safest is to placeholder any tag that is part of a string 08:06 rangi ill try to remove the ones that have nothing but placeholders :) 08:07 kf rangi: yes, that would be cool 08:10 rangi ohh fixed the comments 08:15 rangi ok, i think that is much better 08:16 rangi i just want to try to remove any lines that contain just placeholders 08:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5917 : Removing comments <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3bd7461b639c32816f031e3a4ab7914a327ed5a2> 08:23 fredericd yo 08:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #197: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/197/ 08:23 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Release notes for 3.4.0 08:23 jenkins_koha Starting build 198 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 08:36 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5671] Add a column of custom HTML to "my summary" <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5671> 08:39 magnuse rangi: is there still time for another signoff on Bug 5579? i can start testing it now 08:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml 08:39 rangi yep 08:39 rangi still time :) 08:40 magnuse ok, i'll give it a try then 08:42 rangi thanks 08:51 paul_p rangi, 1st results of my testing in your mailbox 08:52 AmitG heya paul_p 08:52 paul_p Hello AmitG 08:52 paul_p :q 08:57 rangi thanks 08:57 rangi i wonder if it does the same for en? 08:57 rangi ill check it out 09:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #198: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/198/ 09:03 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5917 : Removing comments <!-- etc from the po file 09:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit 09:05 pastebot0 "magnuse" at 95.34.212.148 pasted "Unified patch for Bug 5579 does not apply" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/16 09:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml 09:06 magnuse what's "fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless"? 09:07 rangi usually means the patch is busted 09:07 rangi yeah 09:07 rangi dangit 09:07 rangi paul_p: thanks for that, ive spotted the problem fixing now 09:08 rangi it does only show up installing in another language so very handy that you tested taht 09:19 magnuse so what to do about the busted patch? 09:26 rangi well they werent changed at all 09:27 rangi so you could grab the branch from galen, plus the the 2 extra patches 09:27 rangi and resign off 09:33 magnuse and galen's branch would be this one? http://git.librarypolice.com/?p=koha-galen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/bug5579 09:35 rangi it should be on the bug 09:35 rangi lemme check 09:36 rangi ah yep that looks like it 09:36 magnuse ok, thanks 09:36 hdl1 rangi: when there are many many items, I was told that the display was too slow. 09:37 hdl1 (I was told today 09:37 hdl1 ) 09:39 rangi with 5579? 09:39 rangi slower than it is now? 09:43 * kf kf_lunch 09:55 Cybermon hi all 09:57 Cybermon i have this log: 17:58:38-19/04 zebrasrv(1) [warn] Index 'Record-control-number' not found in attset(s) 09:58 Cybermon for koha-zebradaemon-output.log 09:58 Cybermon what is mean this log ? 10:04 magnuse Cybermon: perhaps kf_lunch can answer when she is no longer lunching... 10:06 Cybermon okay 10:09 rangi paul_p: fixed in master, building new tarball for testing 10:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6205 : Fix for the installer, falling back to english <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=378602e4fa52db04d245ce1a7917591867a783f6> / Bug 6205 : Further fix for installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b1d81873643fdcec350b6bf1d1d7e1d19edbc33> / Bug 6205 : Fix for not found doc-head file when installing in another language <http://git.koha-community.org/gitw 10:14 jenkins_koha Starting build 199 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 10:15 rangi new test build built 10:15 pastebot0 "magnuse" at 95.34.212.148 pasted "Extra patches do not apply on Galen's branch (bug 5579)" (36 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/17 10:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml 10:15 rangi [off] http://stats.workbuffer.org/koha-3.04.00.000.tar.gz 10:16 rangi hmm looks like unless gmcharlt has time to look at it, its going to miss 3.4.0 10:17 magnuse too bad... :-( 10:17 magnuse o/ 10:18 rangi ahh looks to me like those 2 patches were against the old branch 10:19 rangi not galens revised one 10:19 Cybermon hello kt_lunch 10:19 rangi and that the sign off was done on the old ones, again not on the revised one 10:19 * magnuse is confused 10:20 magnuse ...and hungry 10:23 rangi or its missing one 10:24 hdl rangi: on 1300 items, 10:24 rangi yes im asking what is slow 10:24 hdl detail display speed is not increased. 10:24 rangi right 10:25 rangi i wouldnt expect it to be 10:25 Cybermon rangi: how are you 10:25 hdl I had done some work for detail display to limit items to 30. 10:25 rangi yep thats still a useful feature, of course its not going to make 3.4.0 10:26 hdl But for some reason gmcharlt has not taken it. 10:26 rangi but i dont think that should stop us putting in 5579 if magnuse can get it to work 10:27 Cybermon hi kf 10:28 kf hdl: I believe there is a syspref 10:28 kf for how many items are displayed 10:28 kf I translated something... in the pref file 10:29 rangi what i really need now, is someone to be able to apply the patches cleanly 10:29 rangi the rest is just distraction 10:30 Cybermon kf: i have this log: zebrasrv(1) [warn] Index 'Record-control-number' not found in attset(s) for koha-zebraqueue-output.log, what does mean ? 10:31 kf yes... 10:31 kf 3.2.x? 10:31 Cybermon 3.2.7 10:31 kf yes... 10:31 Cybermon for ubuntu 10.10 10:31 kf it's a mistake 10:31 kf you can ignore the warns 10:31 Cybermon good 10:31 kf this feature should not be in 3.2.7 10:31 kf I think the index sneaked in incompletely with some other change 10:32 kf it's working only in 3.4 10:32 rangi magnuse: the unified patch applies for me 10:32 Cybermon good job. 10:33 magnuse rangi: it does? cool! 10:33 magnuse rangi: on master or galens branch? 10:34 rangi master 10:34 * magnuse is still a little confused... 10:34 rangi im pushing it 10:34 magnuse yay! 10:34 rangi to new/enh/bug_5579 10:34 rangi so you can test and say if it works 10:34 rangi and if it does ill merge it 10:34 magnuse ok, will do 10:34 rangi pushed up now 10:36 magnuse ...and pulled down 10:36 rangi :) 10:40 rangi kf: i think the translation script is much better now 10:40 kf cool! 10:40 kf go to bed! ;) 10:40 * rangi has a meeting tomorrow morning 10:40 rangi but if people want to do a test install (paul already has thanks paul) 10:40 rangi [off] http://stats.workbuffer.org/koha-3.04.00.000.tar.gz 10:41 kf rangi: before you go - have you seen my comment on the bug for stocknumber? 10:41 rangi any testing is appreciated (paul found one bug and ive fixed it) 10:41 rangi nope whats the bug number? 10:41 kf bub 5860 10:41 kf bug 10:42 kf chris_n found the problem - it's in 3.2.x and master now :( 10:42 kf my databases where I tested it were not old enough to run into the problem 10:43 rangi ah its just a warn 10:43 rangi but yeah cleaning it up would be good 10:43 kf hm not really 10:43 kf if your database is old enough - the unique index thing remains 10:43 kf so you still have the problem that your item will not save the stocknumber :( 10:44 kf I could do another one doing it for the other index name - but people would always get a red error message because one of those is failing 10:45 rangi you can test if that index exists 10:45 rangi remove it if it does 10:45 rangi and create the right one 10:45 kf chris_n told me that too... but when he started posting perl links I got lost 10:46 kf we only have examples for columns in updatedatabase, not for indexes 10:49 rangi ALTER IGNORE TABLE 10:49 rangi easy peasy 10:49 kf ! 10:49 AmitG heya kf ;) 10:49 kf hi AmitG :) 10:49 kf what will that do? 10:51 kf hm, I will try it 10:51 kf thx rangi 10:51 rangi that will ignore it if doesnt exist 10:53 rangi at least thats what i think, ill test 10:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #199: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/199/ 10:54 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6205 : Fix for not found doc-head file when installing in another language 10:54 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6205 : Further fix for installer 10:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6205 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW, doc-head-open.inc not found. 10:54 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6205 : Fix for the installer, falling back to english 10:56 rangi otherwise we have to do it the longer way 10:57 rangi SHOW INDEX FROM items WHERE KEY_NAME = 'itemsstocknumberidx' 10:57 conan hi all 10:58 kf hm! 10:58 kf ok 11:00 rangi so this is what is there now 11:00 rangi https://gist.github.com/927131 11:00 rangi so to be clear 11:00 rangi the problem is, some people have itemstocknumberidx ? 11:01 rangi im trying to understand what the problem is 11:02 kf some people have it with one and others with 2 s 11:02 kf itemsstocknumberidx and itemstocknumberidx 11:02 rangi who are the ones that have it with one s? 11:02 rangi new installs? 11:02 kf sec 11:03 rangi because all old installs will have 2 s 11:03 kf new installs have 1 11:03 rangi yeah 11:03 kf updated 2 11:03 rangi so new installs arent getting changed with your updatedatabase 11:04 kf let me check my updatedatabase before answering that 11:04 kf I had tested with a new install... so old installs should not get it 11:04 rangi i just pasted it 11:04 rangi it does it for 2 s 11:04 rangi so only changes old ones 11:04 kf $dbh->do("ALTER TABLE `items` DROP INDEX `itemsstocknumberidx`;") 11:04 rangi yes 11:04 rangi old ones 11:05 rangi brand new ones of course dont run that 11:05 rangi if if the problem was 11:05 kf uh, now i am confused 11:06 rangi well you dont run the updatedatabase if its new 11:06 kf no 11:06 rangi it just uses kohastructure.sql 11:06 kf ok 11:06 kf I think we have to say it differently: a database that got items.stocknumber by update 11:06 rangi will be fine 11:06 rangi because that update makes the one with 2 s 11:07 kf right 11:07 kf ok 11:07 kf a newer database, new installed 3.2 11:07 kf or 3.2.x will get an error message 11:08 rangi yep 11:08 rangi so what you want to do is 11:08 kf and nothing will be changed so the problem remain 11:08 kf s 11:08 rangi ill rewrite it in the gist page 2 secs 11:09 kf thx chris and sorry for keeping you awake 11:11 rangi https://gist.github.com/927131 11:12 kf cool! 11:12 kf ok, copying and will try to send a patch a bit later today 11:12 rangi cool 11:12 kf what happens to the old updatedatabase? it will cause warns 11:12 rangi id change it 11:13 rangi rather than making a new one 11:13 kf hm 11:13 rangi otherwise its just going to through errors 11:13 kf but say someone is running from master - it will not update for them and correct the mistake 11:13 rangi serves them right for running unreleased code 11:13 rangi it would only be someone who updated in the last week 11:14 rangi after i told people not to for production 11:14 rangi i think leaving it there and annoying everyone 11:14 rangi is worse than fixing it, and annoying only a few people 11:15 rangi unless you want to edit, and add a new one 11:15 rangi then it will do it twice for almost everyone 11:15 kf I will follow your advice 11:15 rangi but fix anyone who upgrade in the last week 11:16 kf I think the only other way to do it is like you say - doing it twice for those where it already worked 11:16 kf like having 2 blocks of that code 11:16 rangi yep 11:17 kf change the old one so that it produces no errors and add a new one at the end for everyone in between 11:17 wahanui kf: that doesn't look right 11:17 rangi yep 11:17 kf wahanui: forget that 11:17 wahanui kf: I forgot that 11:17 kf ok. and you recomment only changing the old one? 11:17 rangi id be fine with that 11:17 rangi the thing with creating an index on items 11:18 rangi it can take a long long time 11:18 rangi if you have lots of items 11:18 rangi and it was only pushed to master on the 4th 11:19 rangi so there should be very few people running it, if there are, if they are brave enough to run an unstable branch in production they should be paying attention :-) 11:19 kf hm ok 11:19 kf that's about master 11:19 kf but chris_n put it in 3.2.x 11:19 rangi it shouldnt even be in 3.2.x 11:19 kf I think before he released it 11:19 rangi because its a new feature 11:19 kf hm no 11:19 kf the field was there already 11:20 kf so the bug - failing silently if you try to save a duplicate existed there too 11:20 rangi ah right 11:20 rangi well chris can decide what he wants for 3.2. 11:20 rangi x 11:20 kf for unimarc too 11:20 kf ok 11:20 kf thx rangi 11:20 kf rangi++ 11:21 rangi ok have a demo first thing tomorrow time to sleep 11:21 rangi please if people have time, test the install 11:21 paul_p good night rangi 11:21 conan which install? 11:21 conan master? 11:21 wahanui master is now running from template::toolkit 11:22 rangi [off] http://stats.workbuffer.org/koha-3.04.00.000.tar.gz 11:22 rangi trying to keep it out of the logs, ill be doing a few test tarballs over the next couple of days, this a new one with a bug that paul found fixed 11:22 rangi and now im going to sleep 11:23 paul_p rangi, will test this afternoon agains & will report 11:23 rangi thanks paul_p 11:24 kf uh 11:24 kf good night rangi 11:24 kf can someone test searching a system parameter? 11:25 kf I get all results doubled up 11:33 magnuse kf: seems ok for me 11:33 kf hmpf 11:33 kf seems it's my installation then :( 11:36 kf hm strange - works now 11:36 kf deleted all old template directories 11:37 AmitG heya jwagner 11:38 jwagner Hi AmitG 11:38 magnuse huh? i'm testing bug 5579 and when i try to delete an item i get Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at ...C4/Biblio.pm line 2081 - and when i try it on current master i get the same error, on line 2097. anyone else seeing that? 11:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml 11:41 magnuse both lines look like this: MARCFIELD: foreach my $field ( $record->fields() ) { 12:02 ebegin I do have a nice challenge for all ;) 12:02 JesseM Good Morning #Koha 12:02 ebegin Parsing a marc record, I have one case where I have the cost ($22.50) in the 020$c subfield 12:03 conan JesseM: hi 12:03 JesseM Hi conan 12:03 ebegin Which makes it a little complicated to parse... 020 $a978-2-915018-53-0 :$c$22.50 12:04 conan ebegin: what are you looking for? a regexp? 12:05 ebegin that would be great :) however, any hint about how to differenciate a cost from a $2 subfiled would be appreciated :) 12:07 conan ebegin: if the only thing you're insterested on that line is to extract the price, then I think this one should do it: 12:08 conan ebegin: /.*\$c(\$\d+(\.\d+)?)/ 12:08 conan and your price will end up in $1 12:09 conan ebegin: test it like: echo '020 $a978-2-915018-53-0 :$c$22.50' | perl -wn -e '/.*\$c(\$\d+(\.\d+)?)/; print $1' 12:10 ebegin conan, thanks, however, I would like to extract each subfield (ex $a $c) and their corresponding value. 12:10 conan ah! 12:10 conan that's another question then ;) 12:10 NateC Morning #koha! 12:10 kf morning NateC 12:10 conan NateC: hi :) 12:10 NateC Hiya kf and conan! 12:10 conan ebegin: you can follow the same principle I used to extract your price 12:11 conan ebegin: just wrap around parenthesis the fields you want, escape $ and put ? on optional stuff 12:11 ebegin conan, the problem I see is how to differenciate a $2 subfield from a $2 (at begining of a price) 12:11 conan ebegin: that line you put is a complete row? 12:12 conan hum... 12:12 ebegin conan I'll give you a possible example, hold on 12:12 conan you said the price is in the $c field, right? so if there is a $c field, then next it will be a price, or not? 12:12 Cybermon how can i check the crontab is working ? 12:17 kf bug 6208 12:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6208 blocker, P1, ---, henridamien, NEW, Not possible to add funds to budgets 12:18 ebegin conan, the $c was an example, we can have a $ in any data. 12:19 conan ebegin: then you must rephrase your question: 12:20 conan │09:04:32 ebegin | Parsing a marc record, I have one case where I have the cost ($22.50) in the 020$c subfield 12:20 conan but now you're telling me that you can have prices on any subfield 12:20 conan if I'm following correctly 12:21 conan please, give the complicated example, so I can understand better and help you 12:21 conan the one that can cause confusion 12:34 jcamins Good morning, #koha. 12:35 conan jcamins: hi there 12:35 wahanui what's up, conan 12:35 conan what's wrong with the bot? 12:35 conan tcohen: just the person I was waiting for 12:35 tcohen hi #koha 12:36 conan tcohen: I just finish an install with branch checked out to 5166 12:36 conan tcohen: good morning 12:36 conan tcohen: what now? what should I test? 12:36 tcohen oh, that sounds great, will you test on that? 12:36 conan yes, but don't know where to start 12:37 conan so far it installed ok, there's only a merge conflict with updatedatabase.pl 12:44 kf hi jcamins 12:54 jcamins kf: did you salvage your refrigerator? 12:54 jcamins Or at least the contents? 12:54 kf jcamins: it still freezes things - but my landlord was there and will probably order a new one today 12:55 kf we tried unfreezing it tonight, but it has not worked 12:57 kf and of course... this happens shortly before the easter holidays 12:58 kf someone int he mood for fixing my newest pet bug? 12:58 kf bug 6208 12:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6208 blocker, P1, ---, henridamien, NEW, Not possible to add funds to budgets 12:59 oleonard kf, that sounds like it's the same as a bug nengard was talking about yesterday 12:59 oleonard Bug 6200 13:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6200 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, can't edit funds 13:00 chris_n kf: please submit whatever patch you make for your updatedatabase issue for 3.2.x as well 13:00 * chris_n browses the buffer 13:00 kf yes, only a variation - I searched for add fund - just found it 13:01 kf nengard filed for edit funds 13:01 kf chris_n: will do 13:01 kf at least I don't have to deal with the templates :) 13:01 chris_n :-) 13:02 chris_n yup, that's going to be a show-stopper for 3.2.x in very short order, me thinks 13:02 chris_n many bugs are being fixed with only tt patches 13:03 oleonard The template-toolkit migration really puts the nail in the coffin of all those old Harley features too, for better or worse 13:03 chris_n true 13:04 chris_n brainstorm: we need a script that compares the patches list archive with the git log of the current master to check for lost kittens 13:05 kf hm hard to do 13:05 kf for me :) 13:05 kf I wonder about the signed-off patches and the discussions happening on the list 13:16 oleonard kf: ? 13:16 kf chris_n's question 13:16 gmcharlt kf: wouldn't be too hard to deal with; it's possible to distinguish patches and the discussion of them pretty accurate 13:17 kf gmcharlt: I think you are right 13:21 oleonard What's this all about? aqbudgets.pl: Use of uninitialized value $number in numeric comparison (<=>) at /usr/share/perl5/Number/Format.pm line 790 13:28 chris_n $number is undef 13:28 chris_n generally harmless, but could indicate problems elsewhere if $number should have been set by then 13:29 chris_n on the lighter side, it could mean that you're trying to exceed your aq budget.... :-) 13:30 gmcharlt blowing up to save your budget? ;) 13:31 hdl_lunch chris_n++ 13:31 hdl (wow... lunch has been over for me for a while...) 13:32 chris_n long_lunches++ // assuming the food is good 13:36 hdl chris_n: I thought that we could create patch branches on server quite automatically with a mutt process and send message when not appliable but never got to that point. That way, we could parse all the not merged branches and rebase quite regularly those branches and send emails for conflicts... But once again, need some work. 13:36 wizzyrea i love mutt. 13:36 wizzyrea < a bit of a shell script junkie 13:47 chris_n hdl: it might also be desirable to automatically prune topic branches once merged 13:47 * chris_n wonders how mutt and patches would get along together 13:48 rhcl "Mutt and Patches" sounds like the title of a children's book 13:48 hdl well chris_n: I think so too... But this might not be really the nicest thing to cope with lost kittens. 13:49 rhcl I am so confused 13:49 rhcl I need breakfast 13:49 chris_n are you thinking a branch per bug then? 13:49 rhcl brb... 13:50 * chris_n passes rhcl coffee and donuts 13:50 rhcl rhcl_brb 13:50 chris_n hdl: maybe branches could be pruned as bugs are marked closed 13:51 chris_n some bugzilla/git hook 13:54 * chris_n wanders off to consult with the oracle at #git 13:54 gmcharlt chris_n: I don't think topic branches should be pruned automatically 13:55 gmcharlt after a bug has been marked closed, some may still need to revisit it 13:55 chris_n perhaps a 'git mv' then to push it off to an archival location 13:55 gmcharlt if pruning is needed - and I'm not convinced it actually is - it could be done periodically after a few months have elapsed 13:56 gmcharlt git mv? that's for files 13:59 hdl maybe we could have pushed/branchname like we have qa/branchname 13:59 hdl But that is another story. 14:00 hdl gmcharlt: if the branch is reprocessed some times after it was merged, then it may be based on master rather than on the initial branch... Since edits can conflict on other pushed patches. 14:01 gmcharlt hdl: well, presumably somebody working on it would be aware enough to merge in master first 14:03 wizzyrea hm, no kiwis about? I know it's godawful early. 14:03 * wizzyrea saves that question for later. 14:06 chris_n gmcharlt: sorry 'git branch -m' 14:08 chris_n branches should be named in such away to generally indicate their status imho 14:08 gmcharlt that's what the bug tracker is for 14:10 rhcl wizzyrea: our Tech Services people are going to Mid-Continent on Thursday; may talk about Koha and RDA (as separate topics) 14:10 wizzyrea neat 14:11 wizzyrea rhcl are you going to kudoscon? 14:11 rhcl yea yea, just need to do my paperwork. Thats on the menu for today. 14:11 wizzyrea doo eet 14:11 wizzyrea doo eet nao 14:12 rhcl I've been putting that and the grant request for ALA off 14:15 sekjal should we be indexing patrons like we do biblios and authorities? 14:16 jcamins sekjal: with Zebra? 14:16 sekjal jcamins: yeah 14:16 sekjal create XML records of patron info, then index 14:17 jcamins I don't know, but why aren't 035 fields indexed? 14:17 sekjal probably completely impractical to consider at this time, with limited return on investment 14:21 gmcharlt sekjal: are you mostly looking for a general keyword search of all patron fields? 14:22 gmcharlt if so, a quicker way to do it might be to create a borrower_keywords table that gets populated whenever a patron record gets created or updated 14:22 sekjal gmcharlt: hmmm, that could work 14:23 sekjal mostly, I want an exact match on cardnumber to return the record directly, in any patron search in Koha 14:23 sekjal if not an exact match on cardnumber, then check for exact matches on any unique identifier Extended Attributes 14:23 sekjal return patron page if exact match is found, otherwise, search against as subset of borrowers table fields 14:24 sekjal and make that subset syspref-controlled 14:25 sekjal I suppose I'd like to see the borrowers table stripped down, and most of the data put into Extended Attributes (or something similar with more semantic connections) 14:30 hdl sekjal: this problem was supposed to be (maybe confusedly and awkwardly) assigned with SQLHelper, hoping that DBIx::Class shift could help improving the whole stuff. 14:31 hdl But with DEBUG=1 you have the SQL generated and the params passed. 14:33 sekjal right now, we've got two search subroutines for borrowers: Search() and SearchMember() 14:33 sekjal Search() seems to be the more complex, using SQLHelper and searching on Extended attributes 14:33 sekjal but SearchMember() is more widely used 14:34 chris_n yay! pdf labels complete with hindi type 14:34 jcamins Does anyone understand matching rules? 14:34 wizzyrea chris_n++ 14:35 sekjal jcamins: almost 14:35 sekjal enough to know it's a brilliant idea that needs some interface enhancements to make it more user friendly 14:36 jcamins sekjal: okay, does it use Zebra? 14:36 sekjal jcamins: to allow matching on non-mapped MARC fields? 14:37 jcamins Right. 14:37 jcamins I think it does. 14:37 sekjal jcamins: I think that's the plan, though I can't say for sure it actually does; never read the code 14:37 jcamins It uses SimpleSearch. 14:43 wizzyrea hdl, did you tell me that biblibre had code for the patron detail multiple return? 14:43 wizzyrea that helped with transits/reserves 14:43 hdl yes. 14:43 wizzyrea which test environs of yours is that in? 14:44 hdl test environs ? 14:44 wizzyrea didn't you have test installs set up for your varying projects after kohacon? 14:45 hdl jcamins: and enough to know it is a pain to debug when you are using web interface. 14:45 hdl wizzyrea: borrowers34 iirc. 14:45 wizzyrea aha ty 14:46 * oleonard hands wizzyrea her cherry-picking boots 14:46 wizzyrea you hand me those, and I'll be asking you for help so get ready. :P 14:46 mib_deo1wa hi koha friends :) 14:46 wizzyrea hi 14:47 hdl jcamins: and yes it uses zebra 14:51 mib_deo1wa My name is Vitor Fernandes... I've used sometimes this IRC channel... Yesterday i've been here to ask if is possible to block one patron to reserve books that are checked out to him, and after come coding I got a solution (which is not the perfect but it's the possible one) 14:51 wizzyrea version control using git? 14:51 wahanui well, version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 14:53 wizzyrea mib_deo1wa: in case you wanted to try and submit your work to the project :) 14:53 mib_deo1wa but I've no time to configure that... I'm too busy 14:54 mib_deo1wa can I send to someone to commit it? 14:55 kf mib: if you have a koha with customizations you really want to take the time to configuret hat 14:55 wizzyrea kf++ #good advice 14:55 wizzyrea it will save you hours and hours in the long run 14:55 kf yes 14:56 wizzyrea plus you'll be set up to commit your own changes 14:56 wizzyrea and get your name in the koha history if it's accepted. :) 14:57 mib_deo1wa maybe later :) first i've to close the project for the librarian i'm working... 14:58 mib_deo1wa you can peek the opac here http://iscte.koha.keep.pt... it's not a pré-production server 14:58 mib_deo1wa http://iscte.koha.keep.pt 14:58 wizzyrea very pretty :) 14:59 mib_deo1wa can you guys help me with one thing? 15:00 mib_deo1wa when saving a record in the cataloging menu if i put a random value in the subfield 100$a i'm getting this error 15:01 mib_deo1wa Unsupported UNIMARC character encoding [] for XML output for UNIMARC; 100$a -> 2013 at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File/XML.pm line 505. 15:01 mib_deo1wa i'm using UNIMARC installation, koha 3.2.6 15:01 paul_p hi mib_deo1wa 15:01 paul_p I can help you. You're in UNIMARC right ? 15:01 mib_deo1wa yes... 15:01 paul_p the encoding is in the MARC 100$a field 15:02 paul_p it's supposed to be 01, 03 or 50, or a combination of those values 15:02 paul_p like 0103 or 5050 15:02 paul_p 2013 is wrong, Koha complains : he don't know what to do 15:02 paul_p it means your record is wrong 15:03 paul_p on the right of the 100$a, you should have ... 15:03 paul_p click on it, it opens a popup that will help you fill the field 15:04 mib_deo1wa ok it has to be filled by that popup? 15:04 paul_p "it has" no. If you know how to fill it, you can. But it's *much* easier with the plugin ! 15:04 chris_n ouch... bug in Delhi Public library's koha install 15:04 chris_n http://59.176.17.111/cgi-bin/koha/opac-export.pl?format=marc8&op=export&bib=3720&save=Go 15:04 mib_deo1wa ok thanks paul for the help 15:05 paul_p if you retrieve record from a z3950 source (like bnf), it will be filled for you 15:05 paul_p mib_deo1wa, your welcome 15:05 mib_deo1wa :) 15:06 mib_deo1wa now back to work.... many things to close 15:06 mib_deo1wa thank you people for all the help 15:07 oleonard chris_n: Bug 6040? 15:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6040 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, opac-export.pl can throw an untrapped error when trying to export an invalid record 15:08 chris_n oleonard: the record exports ok as unicode/utf8, just not as non-Unicode/MARC-8 15:08 chris_n not sure if that qualifies under that bug or not 15:08 oleonard chris_n: I randomly changed the bib number to something else and didn't get the error so I thought it might be something to do with that record. 15:10 chris_n k, tnx 15:11 oleonard nengard: Re: Bug 5685, did you try the first attached patch? The obsoleted one? The follow-up patch looks like it needs the first to work. 15:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5685 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Validation of email address field 15:12 nengard oleonard, I tried the non-obsolete patch 15:12 nengard the only one that was visible by default 15:13 nengard so you're saying the 'obsolete' one isn't obsolete? 15:13 oleonard Try each of them in succession. Looks like obsoleting the first one was a mistake. 15:16 nengard oleonard - they apply - but they don't stop me from entering something other than an email address 15:17 oleonard Thanks for trying it. I haven't tried it myself but it caught my eye so I was checking out the bug repot 15:18 nengard oleonard did you get my email about the recent comments/ 15:18 nengard ? 15:19 oleonard Let me check 15:20 oleonard Yeah... So here's the status 15:20 oleonard The patch was pushed, the feature is there 15:20 oleonard But it's not linked to from anywhere 15:20 nengard hmm 15:20 oleonard /cgi-bin/koha/opac-showreviews.pl 15:21 oleonard I wasn't sure if it should go in the list of links along with Advanced Search, Tag Cloud, etc. or what 15:21 nengard that makes sense 15:21 oleonard Makes sense to put it there? 15:21 nengard yes 15:22 nengard but if that won't make it into 3.4 I can at least put that info in the manual - of where to find the page 15:22 nengard also, how many recent comments does it show? 15:24 oleonard It will handle multiple pages, let me check what the per-page number is 15:24 oleonard It should obey OPACnumSearchResults 15:25 tcohen anyone has a quick link to blockers for 3.4.0? 15:25 nengard will it obey the new preference to control showing patron names on comments? 15:26 oleonard I don't know 15:26 nengard http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?list_id=4425&bug_severity=blocker&query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&version=rel_3_4&version=unspecified 15:26 kf tcohen: linking to bugzilla is a bit tricky 15:26 kf oh 15:26 nengard :) 15:26 kf yes, I treid a saved search earlier and that didn#t work :) 15:26 kf sorry 15:26 kf was confused 15:27 tcohen thanks nengard,kf 15:27 oleonard nengard: It doesn't look like opac-showreviews.tt was changed to obey the new pref 15:27 oleonard I'll submit a patch 15:28 nengard k 15:28 kf nengard: if you tried saving it? 15:28 kf nengard: i sat next to mark when he programmed the email validation 15:28 nengard saving what? 15:28 nengard oh 15:28 kf the patron record with a wrong email address 15:28 nengard yes, i tried to save teh patron and it let me do so 15:28 nengard on FF4 on Mac 15:28 kf ah 15:28 nengard and the email address was something like "odjflksjdfsk" 15:28 nengard :) 15:29 kf it should show up a message similar to those in the sys pred editor 15:29 kf at least i saw it worked - thought it was really cool! 15:31 oleonard kf: The patch nengard is testing just has an alert() 15:31 oleonard I wonder what you saw? 15:31 kf hm 15:31 kf he was using a mac 15:32 kf perhaps it just looked different form my alersts 15:32 oleonard I think that was it 15:32 kf yep 15:32 kf probably, looked a bit fancier and came from the top of the screen? 15:33 oleonard Yeah, that's a Mac-style alert 15:34 nengard oleonard - manual updated with new info on recent comments page 15:37 nengard wizzyrea I updated the patron permissions image to be more accurate :) 15:44 oleonard nengard: The email address validation is working for me 15:44 nengard k 15:44 nengard so it's FF4? 15:44 oleonard I don't know. I'll test it in FF4 to make sure. 15:44 nengard k 15:45 oleonard It doesn't recognize one valid format I know of, "username+customfilter@gmail.com" 15:45 oleonard ( http://www.divergentstudio.com/georgeswonderblog/2008/0705/technology/computers-and-computer-related/email/custom-gmail-email-address-spam-and-filtering/ ) 15:46 jcamins It should allow for mailbox specification. 15:46 jcamins + is completely valid. 15:47 oleonard See also: http://haacked.com/archive/2007/08/21/i-knew-how-to-validate-an-email-address-until-i.aspx 15:48 oleonard No way, FF4 has per-tab js alerts now? That's a nice reason to upgrade. 15:48 kf never seen someone use that - could it be added to the regex? 15:48 oleonard nengard: Works for me in FF4, maybe it was a glitch in your testing branch 15:48 nengard good 15:48 nengard glad it works 15:50 oleonard We should probably work to standardize our js validation: http://bassistance.de/jquery-plugins/jquery-plugin-validation/ 15:50 kf ok, time to leave 15:50 kf bye all 15:55 chris_n final nws tornado count for the weekend storm: http://www.erh.noaa.gov/rah/news/content/20110416.tornado.gif 15:56 oleonard Wow 15:58 chris_n epidemic 15:58 jcamins Wow! 15:59 chris_n I'm hiding there next to the second longest EF3 path 8-O 16:13 oleonard Bug 6209 16:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6209 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Standardize on one javascript library for client-side form validation 16:13 jcamins oleonard++ 16:14 oleonard Something to put on the pile right next to the jqueryUI project :| 16:15 jcamins That will fix the check_form_borrowers problem. 16:19 slef Hi all. How did that dropbox invite spam get onto the koha list? 16:20 sekjal bulk import of contacts list? 16:23 slef sekjal: yeah, but it appeared to be from a dropbox address not the user's own 16:24 jcamins Could someone please test linking authorities on Master? When I tried linking an authority which had two subfield 'p's, the second one didn't show up at all. 16:24 jcamins Not even "O.T.|John" the way it used to. 16:33 oleonard jcamins or sekjal: Who wants to hear about the latest holds mystery in our production system? 16:34 oleonard Nobody's blinking. I'll just ramble on: 16:35 oleonard I've gotten lots of reports of holds going to the wrong place 16:35 jcamins Where are they going? 16:35 oleonard I was just investigating the latest example, and something looks suspicious 16:35 oleonard Holds being transferred to the wrong branch, I mean. 16:36 jcamins Yeah, I mean, are they all going to the same branch? 16:37 oleonard No. 16:37 oleonard I'm looking at one record (biblionumber 233722), and it has three copies which are in transit 16:37 oleonard One is going to ALB, one to GPL, one to NPL 16:37 cait hi #koha 16:38 jcamins Weird. 16:38 oleonard The three patrons for which they are being transferred are also patrons of ALB, GPL, and NPL, but the copies allocated for each are not going to their branch 16:38 oleonard So the ALB patron's copy is going to GPL, for instance 16:39 oleonard Could be coincidence, but not given the reports I've gotten of this problem 16:39 jcamins I think we've seen this issue elsewhere, too. 16:39 jcamins There was a bug... 16:39 * jcamins looks 16:40 chris_n should I expect to be able to download a marc record from another koha installation and then use bulkmarcimport to slurp it up into another installation assuming a compatible branchcode? 16:43 jcamins chris_n: I would think. 16:43 * chris_n can't seem to coerce his sandbox to accept this hindi marc record 16:44 cait chris_n: I use stages marc import a lot 16:44 cait chris_n: but I send myself the records via the cart 16:44 chris_n cait: thanks, but the same error occurs there as well :P 16:45 cait ah :( 16:45 jcamins chris_n: try exporting as MARC-8? 16:47 chris_n these records refuse to export as MARC-8 16:47 cait oleonard: I like the idea of using jquery for validating forms! 16:47 chris_n crazy problem 16:47 cait will probably not work for all the things we have to check for, but would make things easier I guess 16:47 jcamins oleonard: I think that was fixed with bug 6004. 16:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6004 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, checking in an item that needs to be transferred home, and is on-hold for a patron, causes dual transfer message box 16:48 cait chris_n: marc 8 probably has not the hindi characters? 16:48 jcamins chris_n: export as MARCXML? 16:48 chris_n probably so; I'm guessing there may be an encoding issue here somewhere I'm not seeing 16:48 cait do you need it for labels testing? 16:48 chris_n jcamins: tried, same error 16:48 chris_n I'll post the error here 16:48 chris_n cait: yes 16:49 cait hm 16:49 cait we have hebrew, but it's all in the 880 fields 16:49 cait probably not very helpful then 16:50 chris_n cait: hebrew titles/authors would help 16:50 chris_n .DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Field 'marcxml' doesn't have a default value at /home/cnighswonger/Repositories/koha.3.2.labels//C4/Biblio.pm line 3120, <GEN12> line 1. 16:50 jcamins o.O 16:50 oleonard jcamins: Really? That patch doesn't just deal with message display? 16:50 cait chris_n: the data is all in 880 fields - I can show you one though 16:50 * chris_n really did not want to get into slogging through Biblio.pm today 16:51 chris_n cait: k 16:51 cait https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=30613 16:51 jcamins oleonard: I think that patch just corrects the transfer logic so books get sent to the right place. 16:52 chris_n cait: ahh.. titles are transliterated into latin chars 16:52 cait yep - original scripts are in 880 16:53 cait but some of the transliterations have some nice diacritics 16:53 cait https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=30695 16:53 oleonard jcamins: Strange that the symptom described in Bug 6004 has been happening with us for quite a while but this transfer location problem hasn't 16:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6004 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, checking in an item that needs to be transferred home, and is on-hold for a patron, causes dual transfer message box 16:54 jcamins oleonard: oh, hm. 16:54 jcamins Very strange indeed. 16:57 chris_n cait: tnx, I'll grab one of those for my test cases too 17:36 jcamins novels_about_knitting++ 17:40 cait hm, I would have expected novels_about_cooking - but knitting? 17:41 * jcamins was looking at the record for a novel about knitting, and found it very amusing. 17:42 jcamins Bug 5805 17:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5805 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, RESOLVED FIXED, Changing Pickup library on already queued holds causes havoc on all holds below it 17:59 library_systems_guy ok so I just stepped in and the other person that is working on koha with me is doing marc imports. So she tells me that she has staged the records fine but when she goes to import the progress never gets beyond 0 17:59 jcamins Yeah, the indicator is broken. 17:59 jcamins For really big files, at least. 17:59 library_systems_guy 5000 records? 17:59 library_systems_guy thats what she said she was doing 17:59 jcamins Yeah, that's large enough that the indicator won't work. 18:00 jcamins Just wait a bit, and the upload will complete without a problem. 18:00 library_systems_guy she said she waited several hours 18:00 library_systems_guy is that typical? 18:00 jcamins No. 18:01 jcamins I find if it doesn't work within 10 minutes, it's best to just use the command-line tools. 18:01 library_systems_guy so now when she tries to import smaller files (say 2000 or so) she gets the same thing 18:01 library_systems_guy ok 18:01 jcamins Actually, I find it's always best to use the command line tools. 18:01 library_systems_guy thats what i recommend too 18:01 library_systems_guy but she hates using the command line 18:02 jcamins She could split it up into, say, 500-record files and try those, but I think the command line is way less of a nuisance. 18:03 jcamins Are you using VirtualBox, by the way? 18:03 library_systems_guy no, Hyper-V 18:06 library_systems_guy jcamins, why did you want to know? 18:08 jcamins library_systems_guy: we had serious problems with that when we used VirtualBox. 18:10 library_systems_guy ahh ok 18:21 rangi chris_n: around? 18:22 rangi you found bug 6040 eh? 18:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6040 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED, opac-export.pl can throw an untrapped error when trying to export an invalid record 18:23 chris_n yup 18:23 rangi cool 18:24 chris_n this occurs with every attempt to export in nonunicode regardless of any record I tried 18:24 chris_n so I guess most of their records must have issues 18:25 chris_n in any case, my koha refuses to import them :P 18:27 rangi marclint 18:27 rangi will tell you whats wrong with them 18:31 * chris_n has been doing things like this today: http://img38.imageshack.us/f/hindilabel.png/ 18:31 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5579] Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579> 18:33 rangi magnus_away: working on 6207 now 18:34 cait bug 6207 18:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6207 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Can't delete item 18:34 cait hi rangi 18:34 cait working on opac translation :) 18:41 library_systems_guy ok so I have a brain teaser. When i run the dev install, I get an unblessed reference. However when i run the standard install it works fine... 18:42 library_systems_guy looks like file permissions to me 18:42 library_systems_guy but everything seems to check out 18:43 rangi cait: i cant remember did i push some more fixes? 18:43 cait hm you told me in the morning it should work much better now 18:43 cait and you fixed the comments 18:43 rangi yes, but did i actually push any fixes 18:44 rangi ? 18:44 * rangi has lost track 18:44 jenkins_koha Starting build 200 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:44 cait you did push one thing for the commets 18:44 rangi ah cool 18:44 cait and the file looks indeed better 18:44 rangi yay 18:44 * cait sends rangi chocolate 18:44 cait I am translating opac now - and will do more testing once I have it complete 18:45 cait it's easier than to look up everything to check for fuzziness 18:45 rangi translating on the updated file eh? 18:45 cait yep 18:45 rangi cool 18:45 rangi if it works, load it into pootle :) 18:45 cait poedit and my editor don't show the normarc stuff correctly 18:45 cait but not sure it's the editor 18:45 cait hm, that would be brave 18:46 cait I have 2 people helping with translation now on pootle :) 18:46 jcamins cait++ # for her bravery 18:46 cait that's too early for karma 18:46 rangi i guess worst is all their work becomes fuzzy 18:46 cait I should give them a fair warn before doing something that drastic 18:47 cait I still can't accept suggestions on pootle :( 18:47 rangi weird 18:47 cait fredericd: around? 18:47 cait yep 18:47 cait it used to work 18:48 rangi cait: do you think the utf8 for the normarc might be mucked up in the .po file? 18:48 cait I am really not sure :( geany is set up to show utf 8 18:48 rangi is it showing the umlauts alright? 18:48 cait let me check 18:48 rangi (in the german text?) 18:48 cait poedit does 18:49 rangi right so i think the .po files is ok, that will do for now 18:49 rangi anyone using normarc, will do it in norwegian anyway, so i wont spend time on that at the moment 18:50 jcamins Have a nice seder, everyone! 18:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6207 : Template scoping error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6dc948c6ba01f9315127d8e5de6c1902da61902d> / Adding another sponsoring library to the credits in the release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=95cb8e2645f53170cb52cd0405bb5a996a58ec6b> 18:50 rangi @later tell magnuse bug6207 should be fixed and merge into master and new/enh/bug_5579 18:50 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 18:50 rangi ok im outta here until after meetings 18:50 cait rangi: I agree 18:50 cait rangi: I even copy the wrong looking strings ;) 18:55 gmcharlt @later tell rangi new/enh/bug_5579 has my blessing for merging 18:55 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 19:00 gmcharlt @later tell rangi if you want a branch with my signoffs, pull from git://git.librarypolice.com/git/koha-galen.git bug5579-final 19:00 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 19:00 cait oleonard++ 19:04 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5897] Hide name of reviewer / comment writer in OPAC <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5897> 19:09 cait @later tell rangi it seems a lot of the fuzzy strings are only fuzzy because of an additional space at the end of the string 19:09 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 19:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #200: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/200/ 19:24 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Adding another sponsoring library to the credits in the release notes 19:24 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6207 : Template scoping error 19:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6207 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Can't delete item 19:39 rangi cait: orly? 19:39 cait meeting already over? 19:40 rangi that should be fixable, trimming trailing space 19:40 cait yes 19:40 rangi naw on the bus 19:40 cait ah 19:40 cait yep, would perhaps kill a lot of the fuzzy stuff 19:43 cait some strings are cut of because of a link inside the string - but that's probably harder to fix. the space could be a win 19:43 rangi ill have a look today if I get a chance 19:59 cait rangi: I will do more testing - don't worry about it 20:00 rhcl why is there a bird on rangi's head? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Chris_Cormack 20:00 wizzyrea ^.6 20:01 rangi heh 20:01 rangi thats my hat 20:02 rhcl a hat is supposed to protect you from environmental events, not cause them like that one might 20:03 rangi that was at the markets the day before kohacon 20:03 wizzyrea that bird kind of snapped at spud 20:03 wizzyrea but he still likes parrots! 20:05 magnuse rangi, cait: what's that about normarc? problem with strings from the xslt? 20:05 rangi yeah not a biggy dont worry about it 20:05 cait magnuse: I think the character enconding doesn't look right - but I think it will be no problem for your normarc files 20:05 rangi it can wait til after 3.4.0 20:05 cait it's only on the 'english site' of things 20:06 rangi yeah 20:07 magnuse ok, thanks, i'll worry about it later then 20:15 cait don't worry :) 20:16 magnuse be happy? 20:19 * magnuse would be happy if i could spend all my work-time on koha... :-) 20:19 * wizzyrea too 20:19 wizzyrea (for srs) 20:19 magnuse yay 20:20 * magnuse wishes #koha a good time of the day 20:35 rangi lol 20:35 rangi irc in a cafe ftw 20:36 wizzyrea :D 20:36 rangi the nice waitress just gave me a piece of slice on the house 20:36 wizzyrea nice! 20:36 rangi 'cos u look so busy' 20:36 wizzyrea hehehehehehehe 20:36 rangi busy talking ... thats me 20:37 wizzyrea you are intently managing the imminent release of the worlds best open source library autmation system 20:37 wizzyrea of course you deserve it 20:38 cait what wizzyrea said :) 20:38 * cait hums happily - only 100 strings missing now 20:38 wizzyrea cait++ 20:38 cait for opac 20:42 rangi yay 20:46 cait rangi: my test pages look really good and completely translated now :) 20:46 rangi yay 20:46 * rangi munches slice happily 20:47 cait :) 20:50 cait small template issue - in my result list I always see the Tags: label, although I have not tags for that record 20:51 cait and online Access doesn't show my url from the title, but I can see it in detail view 20:51 cait but translation works :) 20:52 rangi I bet u can fix that 20:52 rangi they will be IF 20:52 rangi with the wrong variable name 20:53 rangi IF something.something when it should be IF something 20:53 rangi or vice versa 20:58 bg rangi when you say slice - what do you mean - a slice of pizza? 20:58 rangi ahh no 20:58 rangi hmm how to explain 20:58 rangi wizzyrea: help a brother out 20:59 rangi its a genre of cake I guess? 20:59 wizzyrea well, I think of it like lemon bars? 20:59 wizzyrea something cakey, with a topping type stuff on it 20:59 rangi this was raspberry slice 21:00 rangi so had cakey stuff, they raspberry jam 21:00 wizzyrea so like a cakey or crumb bottom, then a jam on top 21:00 wizzyrea yea, similar to a lemon bar 21:00 rangi more cakey stuff (almost shortbread) 21:00 wizzyrea joann has some recipes on her blog 21:00 wizzyrea un mo 21:00 rangi then some icing 21:00 wizzyrea lots of butter 21:00 bg yummy I think I'm going to go find a slice (we've got some lemon bars around here) 21:00 rangi my fave is ginger slice 21:01 cait rangi: I fear you are right 21:01 cait but it's getting late :( 21:01 wizzyrea http://lesttheybelost.blogspot.com/2011/01/chocolate-fudge-slice.html 21:01 rangi but chocolate and caramel is good too 21:01 cait hm caramel 21:01 rangi cait: ill have a look 21:01 rangi ok meetings 21:01 wahanui meetings are beginning of march or april 21:01 wizzyrea http://lesttheybelost.blogspot.com/2010/12/zucchini-slice.html 21:01 cait rangi: I can take a look tomorrow 21:01 cait don't worry, will file a bug 21:01 rangi damn right they are 21:01 rangi bbl 21:02 wizzyrea http://lesttheybelost.blogspot.com/2010/12/caramel-anzac-slice.html 21:02 cait wahanui: forget meetings 21:02 wahanui cait: I forgot meetings 21:02 wizzyrea now that I've made you all hungry 21:02 wizzyrea http://lesttheybelost.blogspot.com/2010/11/lemon-coconut-slice.html 21:03 wizzyrea that's all of jo's slices :P 21:03 wizzyrea that she's posted so far 21:03 cait and all sound very yummy 21:03 cait and yes, you made me hungry! 21:05 wizzyrea technically jo made you hungry :) 21:14 cait hmpf. 21:35 sekjal alright, one step closer to reconciling the two Member search routines into one 21:36 sekjal with that, I depart 21:36 sekjal goodnight, #koha! 21:51 cait opac done! 22:30 druthb o/ 22:47 rhcl r u on the night shift druthb? 22:48 druthb that's a complex question, rhcl. I'm on the Get-Things-Done shift, mostly. 22:49 gmcharlt druthb: what does that make the morning shift? ;) 22:50 druthb The Get-some-things-done shift. ;-) 23:02 conan anyone used gitorious before? I can't find how to tell git to tell ssh to use another identity file instead of ~/.ssh/id_rsa 23:05 conan scratch that, I found it :) 23:28 rangi back 23:42 conan rangi: you awake at this time? 23:42 rangi its 11.44am 23:42 rangi i better be :) 23:42 conan jojo 23:43 conan I'm preparing with Kriegel a translation to spanish for the SQL scripts 23:44 conan my initial idea was to just make a copy of whatever is under 'en' folder and work the files 23:44 rangi thats what most people have done 23:44 conan however he told me that when he brought up this idea here 'them' told him not to 23:45 rangi but dont do the sysprefs 23:45 conan that he needed to push a full translated subdir 23:45 rangi yes when you want it merged 23:45 conan hum... then Kriegel has missunderstood 23:45 rangi it needs to be a copy of all the files 23:46 rangi (copy the sysprefs but dont translate them, they are handled by the .pref files) 23:46 rangi but the frameworks, sample notes ext 23:46 rangi you can translate 23:46 rangi so copy the whole en folder 23:46 conan I'm asking this because of what this I had to make a git repo somewhere else for him and me to communicate, but I think it would be better to just have this under koha 23:46 rangi then translate the files you want 23:47 rangi yes, if a file is not translated, it needs to exist in the es/ dir 23:47 conan ah, ok, but there will be no merge until it's done, right? 23:47 conan so I need to host the repo somewhere else 23:47 rangi but if its no translated it will show up in english 23:47 rangi it can merge, its harmless 23:47 rangi as long as it has all the files 23:47 rangi they dont all need to be translated 23:47 rangi if you see what im saying 23:47 conan ok, so let me put it in another words right now: 23:48 rangi it would just mean if someone did an install in es, and it wasnt all translated, theyd have some in es some in english 23:48 conan can we make an es-ES subdir tonight which will be just a copy of 'en' and will it come in the next pull anybody does? 23:49 rangi not in master at the moment no 23:49 rangi because im releasing 3.4.0 on friday 23:49 conan do we need to branch then? 23:49 rangi and that would be just dangerous ;) 23:49 conan of course 23:49 rangi but after the release 23:49 rangi then yes 23:49 rangi it can go into master 23:49 conan ah! cool 23:50 conan I knew it couldn't be so complicated 23:50 rangi and patches to translate files can be submitted to it 23:50 conan I'll delete the gitorious repo then :) 23:50 rangi its no harm having ur own repo 23:50 rangi that tracks master 23:50 rangi because then you can send a pull request 23:50 rangi rather than patches 23:50 rangi which is good for biggish files 23:51 conan of course, but the thingy was to have something up online for him, me and anyone else to communicate 23:51 rangi yeah, doesnt hurt to still do it in gitorious and just send pull requests as you complete files 23:51 rangi its up to you though :) 23:55 Waylon Hiya all! 23:56 rangi hi Waylon 23:56 Waylon jcamins_away: .. you still away? 23:56 Waylon rangi: seems, according to my boss, author names arn't being sorted.. 23:56 Waylon arabic names. 23:57 rangi i wouldnt know