Time Nick Message 23:39 * eythian tries to avoid non-postfix servers 23:39 eythian it is 23:39 rangi it is actually Postfix though? 23:38 rangi :) 23:36 eythian 220 iumma.kallisti.net.nz ESMTP Postfix (Commodore Vic-20) 23:36 eythian Connected to mail.kallisti.net.nz. 23:36 eythian $ telnet mail.kallisti.net.nz 25 23:36 eythian rangi: personally, this is the degree I go to: 23:31 space_librarian coolio 23:31 rangi space_librarian: yep can do 23:30 rangi well yeah version numbers i can see 23:30 space_librarian RBNZ would like to know if we can do 9.30 next Wednesday, as their entire knowledge team is there 23:26 eythian rangi: actually, hiding things like version numbers is considered best practice. I wouldn't bother hiding the whole product name though, as it's easy to work out by searching for template strings. 22:46 rangi just ask why 22:46 rangi no point speculating 22:46 rangi you should find out the reason first 22:46 rangi and even hiding the url and trying to remove all references to koha everywhere, people would still be able to figure out it was koha 22:45 rangi security through obscurity is a thoroughly debunked idea 22:45 Waylon If his reason is for security, that knowing what system a library runs on, means knowing what attack vectors to use, is his reason unfounded? okay, we're still using koha 3.0.0rc1, because of the extensive modding we've done to it, git-less, and haven't had time to redevelop on 3.2, but still... 22:17 rhcl_away [off]I can say lots of things about that subject that many people would find humorous. I've got a pretty good bag of stories, but they're not safe for IRC. 22:15 jcamins_away :) 22:14 jcamins_away rhcl++ # I was feeling grim about this stupid book report, and you made me laugh 22:14 rangi heh 22:14 rhcl_away [off]I'd like to remove my ex-wife's name from my pittance of retirement pay. Can I do that? 22:13 rangi yeah, we'll use your work, but damned if we will ever give you any credit 22:12 jcamins_away Still seems kind of unethical. 22:11 mtj yeah, next please... 22:11 jcamins_away Never mind. Very unpleasant. 22:10 jcamins_away Right. 22:10 jcamins_away Oh, "everywhere." 22:10 jcamins_away mtj: not too bad... the only change would be the httpd.conf. 22:09 mtj would make a pretty unpleasant patch for their upgrades, too 22:05 bg seems like a waste of time :) 22:05 rangi does he/she say why? 22:04 rangi its not a request id be comfortable doing 22:04 rangi its pretty wanky 22:04 rangi its legally ok 21:59 Waylon Hiya! boss makes a strange request "I don’t want user or anybody less to know the system we are using, so I want to remove the word “koha†from everywhere, especially from the url and the error messages" .... this legally speaking, okay? why would someone want this? 21:48 cait bye all 21:03 * space_librarian waves at cait 21:03 cait hi space_librarian :) 21:03 space_librarian good morning all. 20:57 rangi nope 20:56 cait before installing? 20:56 cait should I have updated first? 20:55 cait ok 20:55 rangi ill keep looking then 20:55 rangi dangit 20:52 cait no :( 20:50 cait installing... 20:47 cait yep, give me a minute 20:46 rangi can you try adding a |js to that and see if that fixes the toolbar transaltion 20:46 rangi line 232 20:46 rangi in tmpl_process3.pl 20:44 cait1 sure :) 20:44 rangi got a sec cait1 ? 20:44 cait1 that will never get old 20:35 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 20:35 wizzyrea @quote get 123 20:28 jcamins Good night, #koha 20:17 cait1 now he was too fast to wish him something nice 20:17 cait1 oooh... :( 20:17 * oleonard quits 20:17 * oleonard will have to save his not being bored for tomorrow 20:16 rangi god twitter is a pile of poo 20:16 wizzyrea it' DM"d me too 20:16 jcamins rangi: yeah. 20:16 rangi jcamins: did it message you? 20:15 cait1 oleonard: taking care you don't get bored ;) 20:14 rangi if i knew it i would 20:14 jcamins So, uhh, change the password. 20:14 jcamins ;) 20:14 jcamins rangi: yeah, that's you. 20:14 rangi yeah its probably listening to old git 20:13 rangi jcamins: it should be on the wiki 20:13 oleonard This page says no update since 25 Oct: https://twitter.com/#!/kohagit 20:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6187 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, View full heading in OPAC's authority search broken 20:13 cait1 bug 6187 20:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6183] "Cancel marked requests" button has become "Renew checked items" on moremember.pl's display of holds <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6183> 20:12 jcamins I forgot to ask who manages that account. 20:12 jcamins So did I. 20:12 wizzyrea hmm I just got twitter spam from kohagit 20:11 rangi hehe 20:11 rangi its a brave new world 20:11 wizzyrea big relief that 20:11 rangi not in the .pl 20:11 rangi ie do the display stuff in the display 20:10 wizzyrea ahhhhhh 20:10 wizzyrea oooooo 20:10 rangi [% some_notes_field | convert_newlines_to_br %] 20:10 rangi or my fave 20:09 jcamins Ooooh. 20:09 rangi i picked that cos we just did something like that for plant and food 20:08 rangi to get a nice url that works for serials solutions, .. or whatever 20:08 rangi and do [% 856u | serialsolutions %] 20:07 rangi but other stuff is fair game, we can write custom filters 20:07 rangi blocks 20:07 rangi [% PERL %] 20:07 rangi what i will get mad at is 20:07 rangi so we dont have to use tmpl expr 20:06 rangi no more needed 18 variables 20:06 rangi etc 20:06 rangi and foo eq 'four' 20:06 rangi and if foo == 2 20:06 oleonard Cool. 20:06 rangi yes 20:06 oleonard rangi: Are we allowed to do this now that we're on TT? [% IF ( foo || bar ) %] 20:01 rangi harmless, but not needed anymore 20:01 rangi its an old way of doing it 20:00 cait1 hm. 20:00 cait1 t 19:58 * cait1 wondered about that too :) 19:58 cait1 good question 19:57 jcamins What does an ampersand before a method call in Perl mean? 19:55 ibeardslee :( 19:55 wizzyrea hehe 19:55 Brooke_ mebbe we can get it secretly stuffed into the CHCH relief bill, yeah, that's the ticket... 19:54 ibeardslee hate to think people end up being disconnected because of using it 19:54 Brooke_ rofl 19:53 ibeardslee Brooke_: as long as the copyright is well sorted 19:53 Brooke_ I can just see it now: Naughty Koha, because it's legal in eNZed. 19:53 ibeardslee who is doing the recording? 19:53 oleonard At the very least we could have naught versions of the circ sounds 19:52 * Brooke_ is willing to develop naughty Koha 19:52 Brooke_ oooh 19:52 cait1 yep, same here 19:52 wizzyrea it's NAUGHTY koha! 19:52 cait1 hehe 19:52 wizzyrea fyi my koha version in my about koha says 3.03.00.xxx :P 19:50 rangi ok bbiab 19:50 rangi :) 19:50 cait1 ok, will test some other things in the meantime :) 19:48 cait1 me too 19:47 rangi I hope not 19:47 rangi that should be fixable, will look when I get to my desk 19:47 cait1 hard to fix? 19:47 oleonard toolbar files are .inc files, but they have a lot of js in them 19:47 cait1 aha 19:47 rangi missing js/xslt 19:46 rangi just only doing .inc and .tt 19:46 cait1 yep - I agree 19:46 rangi I think it is 19:46 rangi yeah js 19:46 cait1 and xslt translation is special too 19:46 cait1 yui something I guess 19:46 rangi ? 19:46 rangi toolbar is js 19:46 rangi oh 19:45 cait1 ok 19:45 cait1 I have german tabs and header columns though 19:45 rangi ill look into it today 19:45 cait1 still toolbar and xslt is not translated 19:45 rangi its translating some at least in the opac, so we just have to find why it is missing some 19:45 cait1 same 19:44 rangi yep 19:44 cait1 I think we can rule out 'obvious' 19:43 cait1 I am reinstalling the pootle files now 19:43 rangi so I dont think thats it 19:43 cait1 there was no fuzzy 19:43 rangi it still doesn't translate right? 19:43 rangi but with no fuzzy 19:42 cait1 I checked that 19:42 cait1 there is no fuzzy 19:42 jcamins Has anyone ever noticed that the perldoc for Biblio::DelBiblio is wrong? 19:42 rangi I wonder if the template has changed to Attach item? 19:42 cait1 msgstr "Exemplar umhängen" 19:42 cait1 msgid "Attach Item" 19:42 cait1 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/cat-toolbar.inc:196 19:42 cait1 #. SCRIPT 19:42 rangi does it have Attach item? 19:41 cait1 checking the original file next 19:41 cait1 yep, not good 19:41 rangi yeah commented out 19:41 cait1 #~ msgstr "Exemplar umhängen" 19:41 cait1 #~ msgid "Attach Item" 19:41 cait1 the new one has: 19:41 cait1 checking both right now 19:41 rangi and its the same with the original po file? 19:41 cait1 rangi? 19:39 cait1 hmpf :( 19:38 cait1 it's everything, not only the Attach Item 19:38 cait1 I see the xslt detai view is completely untranslated, as is the toolbar in intranet detail view 19:37 cait1 seems to be a bigger problem 19:37 cait1 hm 19:37 cait1 updated po file... 19:37 rangi cool 19:36 cait1 I try installing the updated script now 19:36 cait1 I had Attach item in my first search - it's there, not sure if there is something obviouw 19:36 cait1 yep Attach Item 19:35 rangi capital in both? 19:35 rangi ahh 19:35 cait Attach Item 19:35 cait ah it's ok -capital I 19:34 * cait is confused 19:34 cait rangi: it's missing 19:34 rangi right and are then in the updated one? 19:33 * oleonard wonders where the hell his form tag is going 19:33 cait to = 2... 19:33 cait and the tooltips in cataloging - Delete this tag, repeat this tag 19:33 cait Attach item - the button in intranet detail view 19:33 cait so far i have to strings 19:33 cait that would be good 19:32 rangi dont spend too much time on it just was hoping something obvious would pop out 19:32 cait ok 19:32 rangi but not showing 19:31 rangi ahh if its huge then search for a string that is translated 19:31 hdl a minor addition 19:31 cait rangi? 19:30 oleonard A minus patch? 19:30 hdl oleonard: So will add a minus patch over yours... open a bug 19:29 cait but the list... is huge 19:29 cait hdl: did that :) 19:29 oleonard hdl: Maybe so, but I was just resubmitting a previously-sent patch updated for TT 19:29 hdl diff fileone filetwo 19:29 cait what I am looking for? 19:28 hdl oleonard: about the TT stuff you just sent... I think it would be profitable if there was a count of relissues so that Librarians can be warned if there is some issues for relatives 19:28 cait trying to compare now :) 19:28 cait ok, update done 19:27 rangi yay 19:27 wizzyrea should just be a link to the manual, I can 19:26 rangi about email circ slips? 19:26 rangi who wants to answer Adalid 19:26 rangi yeah thats perfect 19:26 cait ok 19:26 rangi diff fileone filetwo 19:26 cait I got new files from pootle for testing, hope that's ok 19:25 rangi diff 19:25 cait what's the best way to compare? 19:25 rangi heya hdl 19:25 rangi and compare the difference (if it works) 19:25 hdl hi all 19:25 cait mom :) laptop is slow 19:24 rangi then run translate update 19:24 cait ok 19:24 rangi make a backup of the .po 19:24 cait of course 19:24 rangi cait: can u try something for me 19:23 cait hm, some things translated in the po files are not translated in staff :( 19:22 wizzyrea i suppose you could either auto-confirm the holds, or do like the SIP does, print the slip and then require a 2nd manual checkin 19:21 sekjal wizzyrea: sounds promising 19:21 cait hi hdl 19:20 wizzyrea hey hdl 19:20 Brooke_ 0/ 19:20 wizzyrea (and what to do) 19:20 wizzyrea it's not so different from busy mom with a stack of 20 library books, wants to return all... we need to know about the exceptions 19:19 wizzyrea it's a similar mechanic to "return all" except the books come in one by one, but all are returned automatically 19:18 wizzyrea the staff member then goes through the bin, finds the book, and puts the slip in the book and sends it on its way 19:18 wizzyrea if a hold is found, it prints a slip 19:18 wizzyrea when we do checkins via sip 19:18 wizzyrea or optionally print slips... or notify and "print all exception slips" 19:18 cait a la SIP? 19:17 wizzyrea so all the staff member does is grab the slip and slap it in the book 19:17 wizzyrea a la SIP 19:17 wizzyrea why not print slips for the items with holds/transfers 19:17 wizzyrea (how to handle holds and transfers) 19:17 wizzyrea I had a thought about "return all" 19:06 jcamins Just one of my favorite new features. 19:06 jcamins Nope. 19:05 cait yours? 19:04 cait :) 19:04 cait yes 19:04 jcamins Isn't it wonderful? 19:03 cait oh 008 has a nice new view! 19:01 cait hope to find some time to study this on the weekend 19:01 cait I will concentrate on testing for tonight - already getting late 19:01 cait thx oleonard 19:00 oleonard rangi? 18:59 * oleonard has found this: http://template-toolkit.org/docs/index.html 18:57 jcamins I think it's [% IF ( foo || bar ) %] but I could easily be mistaken. 18:57 cait sorry, didn#t have time to find a tutorial yet :( 18:57 cait no idea 18:56 oleonard Are we allowed to do "[% IF foo || bar %]" with Template Toolkit? 18:56 cait ok, next bug report coming up - thx for checking 18:56 oleonard There's a lot of javascript there, so I think you're right. Doesn't do anything at all for me. 18:55 cait should open more options I think? after you chose the material type? 18:54 cait open it and select something 18:54 oleonard Check it how? 18:54 cait oleonard: can you check pulgin for 007? 18:54 cait hm 18:50 cait I think for the first time the umlauts in z39.50 search are perfect in all views! 18:50 cait cool 18:49 cait s 18:49 * cait likes jigsaw 18:49 cait ouch 18:49 * oleonard is starting to feel like Template::Toolkit came up and kicked the 1000 piece puzzle he was about to finish 18:48 * cait is testing with German now :) 18:45 cait :) 18:45 jcamins Yup. 18:45 cait is that the right abbr? 18:44 cait yvw 18:44 jcamins Thanks. 18:44 cait 2010-12-14 18:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Add support of record linking by record control number in $w 18:44 cait bug 4506 18:44 jcamins "that big patch"? 18:44 cait you can find out :) 18:43 jcamins Yeah, see, that's my problem, too. 18:43 cait why? 18:43 cait months ago I think 18:43 cait not sure - it was that big patch 18:43 cait oh 18:43 jcamins cait: when did your fix for series tracings get into Koha? 18:41 oleonard I'm on my third new branch modifying moremember.tt today. I see merge conflicts ahead. 18:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6182 blocker, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Search results in intranet broken 18:33 cait bug 6182 18:33 cait bug filed 18:32 oleonard Same for me cait 18:29 cait hm search results on master broken? 18:25 Brooke_ :) 18:24 cait hi Brooke 18:24 Brooke_ 0/ 18:23 oleonard Hi Brooke_ 18:23 Brooke_ kia ora 17:23 cait hi #koha 17:23 hdl see ya 17:23 gmcharlt hdl++ 17:06 hdl will give it a try 17:05 hdl to make a test. 17:05 hdl and MARC::Record::match_field 17:03 gmcharlt woudl need to recast it as MARC::Record::uniq 17:03 gmcharlt MARC::Record would be fine 17:00 hdl rather a MARC related stuff 17:00 hdl It is not Koha related. 16:59 hdl And I don't know if it belongs to MARC::Field or to another package. Koha::MARC::Utils 16:58 hdl so asking 16:57 hdl can't think why it has never been written 16:56 hdl $record->insert_fields_orderd(@fields); 16:55 hdl $record->delete_fields('700') 16:55 hdl my @fields=uniq $record->field('700'); 16:53 hdl then all you would have to do is 16:53 hdl would return the unique records for field 700 16:52 hdl say uniq record->field('700'); 16:52 hdl i thought it could work as uniq 16:51 gmcharlt so that you can (say) dedupe subject heading fields 16:51 hdl have you ever come into such a problem ? 16:51 gmcharlt such a function should probably include a tag pattern parameter 16:51 gmcharlt hdl: I agree that it would be useful 16:51 hdl ? 16:51 hdl Do you think it could be helpfull 16:50 hdl But maybe I am wrong and it is useless. 16:50 gmcharlt hdl: patches welcome 16:50 hdl I think this could be a nice function to add. 16:50 hdl gmcharlt: I havenot found any in Koha. 16:49 hdl gmcharlt: is there a kind of uniq function for MARC::Field to operate on a MARC::Record somewhere. 16:44 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6181] Remove CGI::scrolling_list from C4:Budgets <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6181> 16:40 jcamins I think Myshkin is dreaming that he has been given his very own bunny to play with. 16:21 wizzyrea I see! will test it in the next few minutes 16:20 conan bye all 16:20 oleonard wizzyrea: Sent you my patch for 3514, such as it is. 15:57 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6179] Extra column on fines in staff client <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6179> 15:19 oleonard I guess it's just wrong: "Template process failed: undef error - 0: filter not found at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 119." 15:17 oleonard Filter 0 ? 15:17 oleonard "The pipe character, |, can also be used as an alias for FILTER" 15:15 oleonard What is the "|0" here? [% review.review |0 %] 15:11 wizzyrea and the companion to configuring receipt printers: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Using_Portable_Firefox_as_a_Koha_Client 15:02 slef conan: ok, I recall nothing, so I'm stuck :-/ 15:01 oleonard In this case only the first one is an item at its home location. The others are in Athens but do not belong there. 15:01 jcamins :) 15:01 jcamins Why is only the first branch linked? 15:00 oleonard Why, one might ask, is only the first branch linked? 15:00 oleonard http://screencast.com/t/ieG2xgfV 14:58 conan unless someone tell me there's a link the exact same way is a link between, say, marc_tag_structure.authorised_value and authorised_value.category 14:57 conan I think they were linked too, but I'm not sure, and since I'm not seeing those columns now, maybe I should not touch them 14:56 conan I recall some mail talking about some ccode stuff 14:56 conan slef: yes, I have found all those already, I'm asking about ... er... mysterious links 14:54 conan may the hold content from authorised_values.authorised_value? 14:54 gmcharlt conan: right, just values 14:54 conan gmcharlt: hum... but sort1 and sort2 are varchar(80), so they don't point to authorised_values.category, which is my concern 14:53 slef conan: it'll find whenever authorised_values is mentioned in the code. 14:53 gmcharlt slef: it's a date 14:53 slef gmcharlt: right, after the call, I'll hop on here, OK? 14:53 gmcharlt e.g., the borrower sort fields can be controled by authorized values 14:52 gmcharlt conan: there are some soft links as well 14:52 conan slef: grep wont help you find a relation between two tables the way things are set now 14:52 gmcharlt sounds right 14:52 slef I think that's 10:00 -0500 but I could be wrong. 14:51 gmcharlt slef: after, I think 14:51 slef gmcharlt: maybe Monday UK PM would be good, before or after the 3M phone call? 14:50 gmcharlt slef: cool. I'm freeish Friday and early next week 14:50 slef conan: all I know is what grep tells me. 14:50 slef gmcharlt: I'll try to find time to make sure SIP 3.0 isn't awful for Koha and Evergreen. Would you have time to chat some time? I see they're planning to public something next month. 14:50 conan anyone knows about any other table linking to authorised_values.category besides: auth_subfield_structure, auth_tag_structure, borrower_attribute_types, marc_subfield_structure and marc_tag_structure ? 14:48 sekjal but the cameras were on the other side of the area, I suppose 14:47 sekjal I know I was photographed a couple times 14:47 sekjal nope, didn't see me, either 14:46 jcamins I just watched it and didn't spot you. :( 14:46 sekjal jcamins: likely 14:45 jcamins sekjal: are you in the video of the Holyoke mall flash mob? 14:43 jcamins That's correct. 14:42 conan so I should leave it untouched, right? 14:42 conan jcamins: I was modifying it just to be comprehensive, but I don't had a way to test it 14:41 conan ah... nice to know 14:41 jcamins conan: Koha doesn't currently work with Postgres. 14:41 conan gmcharlt: is it possible a table doesn't exists in the pgsql version? I can't find borrower_attribute_types table in ./installer/data/Pg/kohastructure.sql 14:36 wizzyrea yay ratbags! 14:35 slef http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/angry%2c-confused-old-women-to-decide-everything-201104133716/ #ratbags, yay! 14:35 slef wizzyrea: yeah, the daily mash is good when it's good and strange when it's bad. 14:34 wizzyrea slef: that article just made my entire office laugh. 14:34 slef gmcharlt: I've just got access today but it seems like a ghost town populated by Microsoft Office X attachments and discussions topics without "Reply" links. 14:32 gmcharlt slef: not at present; to be frank, I've let the SIP 3.0 stuff drop off my radara 14:32 slef gmcharlt: do you use "SIP 3.0 Development Community"? 14:31 slef http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgABbHPdwH4 is quite funny if it's the clip I think it is. 14:30 slef I viewed it as harmless fun until the xenophobia got too bad. 14:30 wizzyrea lulz 14:30 slef http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/clarkson-continues-heartbreaking-bid-to-hide-true-sexuality-201104113707/ 14:30 wizzyrea (it's sort of the worst in petrol wasting nonsense) 14:30 wizzyrea :) I kind of guessed that you wouldn't be a fan. 14:29 slef mmm, "Top Gear" is probably the worst 14:29 wizzyrea :O 14:29 slef We did get a skip lorry wedged sideways across the main road a year or two ago. Front end in the church house wall, back end propped up on the road up the hill. 14:28 wizzyrea ^^ lots of things in that sentence I imagine that make you cringe (hehe) 14:28 slef heh, yeah, I've not seen any Hummers here 14:27 wizzyrea it did not fit so well. 14:27 wizzyrea I was watching a very old Top Gear last night, and they were trying to drive a Hummer through a town that I imagined was very much like yours 14:27 wizzyrea just glad to see you :) 14:27 slef wizzyrea? 14:25 wizzyrea hi slef :D 14:25 slef hi all. 14:07 jcamins Me too. 14:06 wizzyrea I miss him. :( 14:06 jcamins wahanui is missing. 14:06 wizzyrea bugger. 14:06 wizzyrea automatic receipt printing? 14:06 wizzyrea automatic receipt printing is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Configure_Automatic_Receipt_Printing 14:04 jcamins sekjal++ 14:02 wizzyrea and it annoys our librarians 14:02 wizzyrea if you have something full page to print 14:02 wizzyrea because configuring firefox in that way precludes picking a new printer 14:01 wizzyrea I'm also going to add the way we use firefox portable as a "koha client" to allow our users to have a firefox they can print to any printer with. 14:00 gmcharlt wizzyrea++ 13:58 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Configure_Automatic_Receipt_Printing 13:58 wizzyrea woot 13:53 wizzyrea [[Category:The_category]] 13:53 wizzyrea how to apply proper categories to a wiki page manually :) 13:53 oleonard wizzyrea: ? 13:50 alex_a gmcharlt: ok 13:50 wizzyrea magnuse++ for teaching me something I have now used two days in a row 13:49 gmcharlt alex_a: I assume so (or that they run on Fedora or Centos), but I don't know of any, specfically 13:48 alex_a gmcharlt: do some library run koha 3.2 on rhel ? 13:41 wizzyrea (NEKLS uses it for tech support ticket tracking too) 13:41 wizzyrea oh, I didn't mean to use it for our bug tracker, I just like the way that their "support" page is laid out :) 13:40 hdl wizzyrea we use that for our support. 13:39 wizzyrea :) good enough feedback for me, thanks 13:39 * oleonard wrinkles his nose at that 13:38 wizzyrea ? 13:38 wizzyrea hm I like the way this is laid out: http://www.mantisbt.org/support.php Too minimal for the Koha site/ 13:37 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 13:37 jcamins @later tell marcelr I don't remember if I told you this before, but I revised my patch for bug 3072 to include Any, if you'd be so kind as to sign off. :) 13:28 wizzyrea for hold/transit found 13:28 wizzyrea a cool enhancement to that would be to also add the sound cue 13:27 hdl (visual alerts) 13:27 wizzyrea cool beans 13:27 hdl it sends alerts. 13:26 wizzyrea no alerts that something needs to be done 13:26 wizzyrea right now, return all silently transits items home 13:26 wizzyrea hdl: what does your dev do with items that are returned all'd at a library other than their home? 13:24 oleonard hdl: My fix is to hide the checkbox in the checkin column if the item is on hold 13:23 hdl is this your stuff ? 13:23 oleonard hdl: In that case my fix will be only temporary until your stuff makes it in 13:22 hdl (when returned) 13:22 hdl well it should also manage to send the notice it is waiting ... if it is the dev we did. 13:22 wizzyrea hrmph 13:21 * oleonard performs no pet fixings! 13:21 wizzyrea I call them my pets :P 13:21 wizzyrea pets = pet bugs 13:21 wizzyrea so many of my pets fixed 13:21 * wizzyrea gives the community people a big hug 13:20 wizzyrea ^.^ it's one of my oldest bugs 13:20 oleonard No, but I'm glad to hear someone clicked that link :) 13:19 wizzyrea (I would sign off on it) 13:19 wizzyrea oleonard++ have you sent the patch for that on hold in the return column yet? 13:17 hdl or centos ? 13:17 hdl have you ever run RHEL ? 13:17 hdl tcohen: which OS are you under ? 13:08 gmcharlt of course, if somebody *really* wants solid red hat support, they could start building RPMs or finding somebody to do it 13:08 mtj but, sure, i agree with you 13:06 mtj debian has been flexible enuff, so far 13:05 gmcharlt and they deserve to be able to run Koha too ;) 13:05 gmcharlt but ... a lot of libraries are stuck on (say) RHEL 13:05 gmcharlt sure, it would be convenient if everybody who wants to run Koha also runs Debian 13:04 gmcharlt but it's a little inflexible 13:04 jcamins True. 13:04 mtj i think alex's current situation proves my point nicely 13:02 mtj … but then i just double my OS problems :/ 13:01 mtj well, installing on ubuntu is easy, sure…. 13:00 alex_a you mean redhat ? 13:00 mtj and my life got much easier…. 13:00 alex_a yes :) 13:00 jcamins mtj: but installing Koha on Ubuntu is easy. 13:00 mtj now i just say debian, or nothing :) 13:00 mtj ive let clients convince me to do Koha installs on ubuntu, and ive always regretted it! 12:59 alex_a but i can't decide 12:59 alex_a :) 12:58 huginn alex_a: I suck 12:58 alex_a @mtj++ 12:58 mtj s/it/if/ 12:58 mtj pass… it its too tricky, convince your client to run debian 12:57 alex_a ah 12:56 mtj then learn to 'fix' your redhat Koha 12:56 alex_a mtj, i have done many installs on debian 12:56 mtj start with a working debian Koha 12:56 alex_a it's just a nightmare 12:55 alex_a unfortunatly i have to do it 12:55 alex_a jcamins, mtj ok 12:54 mtj alex_a: debian is the one most devs use 12:53 jcamins alex_a: very few people use RedHat with Koha. 12:52 alex_a nobody ? 12:38 oleonard Displaying "on hold" instead of a checkbox in the checkin column 12:38 oleonard Actually, it was the template change in that screenshot link 12:37 hdl oleonard: maybe it was the koc import to report onhold to 12:33 oleonard http://screencast.com/t/b6UpJrpYSed 12:29 * oleonard needs to fix the macros in his editor to do Template:Toolkit stuff... 12:26 * oleonard wonders where to begin, remembers he volunteered for something yesterday 12:25 gmcharlt good morning 12:21 chris_n heya oleonard 12:20 oleonard Hi #koha 12:15 alex_a has anyone installed Net::Z3950::ZOOM on rhel 5 yet ? 12:14 alex_a hi #koha 12:11 jcamins Good morning, #koha 12:08 jwagner Wish they'd built a site visit into their contract :-) 12:06 druthb wowie. 12:04 jwagner Sure wish _I_ could have gone onsite for my latest library to go live. Belize..... 12:03 druthb I'm flyin' home this afternoon, after finishing training here. Fantastic new Koha library coming in a couple of weeks. 12:02 jwagner You should go up to Moosehead Lake! 12:02 druthb it is a bit cool and drizzly here this morning, but the air is fresh and nice. and the treeeeeeessss. 12:02 jwagner No, NZ is lovely and I want to go back, but Maine is heaven. 12:01 * druthb suggests that the only reason it's safe for you to say that is that all the Kiwis are in bed. 12:01 jwagner Then why are you harrumphing? Maine is the best place on earth, and you're that close to it? 12:00 druthb New Hampshire is pretty this morning, jwagner. Maine is just a loud scream from here, so I presume it's pretty there, too. 12:00 * druthb glares back. 11:59 * jwagner glares in druthb's general direction.... 11:57 huginn druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010) 11:57 druthb @quote get 102 11:50 AmitG heya JesseM 11:46 JesseM hey hdl 11:46 JesseM hi AmitG 11:46 hdl hi AmitG 11:45 AmitG heya all 11:44 conan hi everybody 11:02 * kf can hear the keyboards 10:57 * magnuse imagines everyone with their head down, working hard 10:51 kf silent day on #koha 08:03 SpaceLibrarian_home :) 08:02 kf hi SpaceLibrarian_home :) 07:57 SpaceLibrarian_home good evening #koha 07:57 sophie_m hello #koha 07:53 kf hi sophie_m 07:43 kf hi francharb :) 07:42 rangi yeah old issues maybe, but not issues 07:41 francharb hi kf! 07:39 kf my first thought was the anonymizing script - but then I thought - in issues??? 07:39 kf :) 07:38 magnuse yay! 07:37 rangi that would make it impossible to delete items on issue, or borrowers who had items out 07:36 rangi and if we tightened that constraint 07:36 rangi why issue nothing to nobody :) 07:36 rangi yeah, i agree with him about issues, we should never allow null itemnumber or borrowernumbers 07:35 magnuse tightening up the db a bit would be cool! 07:34 kf and a great variety of data types 07:34 kf there are lots of columns and things that we don't use too 07:33 kf cool :) 07:33 rangi kf: yeah we noticed some anomalies, planning to clean them up for 3.6 07:32 magnuse i guess they are used much the same way as item types in koha, except for the repeatability, oh well... 07:32 kf srdjan is cleaning up the database? :) 07:32 magnuse this is what an interface can look like: http://www.deich.folkebibl.no/cgi-bin/websok?mode=sok&st=a the codes are given their names in the "Media type" dropdown 07:31 magnuse ok, i'll have to actually test that 07:29 kf commas are ignored for search afaik 07:29 magnuse ? 07:29 magnuse so would i have to tell zebra to split on comma, or does it do that automagically 07:28 rangi ppl would have to know to type dc 07:28 magnuse hehe 07:28 kf hm. probably 07:28 rangi thats a bit trickier 07:28 rangi but making a search interface to it, that makes any sense to people 07:28 rangi you can index any field 07:27 rangi yep 07:27 magnuse next question: is it possible to index that in zebra? 07:27 kf hi julian, francharb and rangi :) 07:27 kf magnuse: I feel with you 07:27 rangi exactly! 07:26 huginn magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 07:26 magnuse @quote get 123 07:26 huginn magnuse: downloading the Perl source 07:26 magnuse @quote 123 07:26 magnuse good morning rangi ;-) 07:26 rangi magnuse: i think the answer is they werent 07:25 rangi evening night shift 07:24 magnuse this makes me so frustrated: there is a service in norway that sells marc records to libraries and they have introduced a new marc field 019$b that can take multiple values separated by comma, so "dc,di,dz " is an audiobook on CD in MP3 format. what were they thinking about? 07:20 francharb morning all 07:17 julian hi magnuse, hi #koha! 07:13 kf #koha even 07:13 kf good morning #okoha 07:10 matts hello #koha ! 07:09 hdl hi 07:09 magnuse bonjour clrh_ hdl julian matts & the rest of biblibre 06:44 clrh_ hi 06:41 cait bbl 06:28 cait hi magnuse :) 06:28 magnuse guten morgen cait 06:15 cait hi #koha 05:44 magnuse sorry for the multiple identities - i'm trying to figure out bip... 05:44 magnuse kia ora #koha 04:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5692 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Adds an alternative cataloguing plugin for 210$c 04:54 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5692 : Adds an alternative cataloguing plugin for 210$c 04:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #182: FIXED in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/182/ 04:54 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 04:40 kmkale Hi AmitG 04:40 kmkale hi space_librarian 04:37 space_librarian hey AmitG 04:37 AmitG heya kmkale 04:37 AmitG heya space_librarian 04:34 * space_librarian waves 04:34 space_librarian namaste kmkale! 04:31 kmkale Namaskar #koha 04:31 Brooke_ 0/ 04:28 AmitG heya chris 04:22 Brooke_ 0/ 04:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5692' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9bb2554e39c583fb994a9d6bb487a75fc7c7251e> / Bug 5692 : Adds an alternative cataloguing plugin for 210$c <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b030ef9f4f4f0e82ca5bf2e31d012084b466071b> 04:14 jenkins_koha Starting build 182 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 3 j 19 h ago) 03:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5922 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Show waiting items for patron on return 03:57 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5922 : Template changes 03:57 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5922 : Functional Changes 03:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #181: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/181/ 03:54 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4002] Issues with borrowernumber set as NULL <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4002> 03:48 Brooke_ :) 03:45 space_librarian kia ora! 03:42 Brooke_ howday 03:42 rangi hi Brooke_ 03:27 Brooke_ :) 03:27 AmitG heya Brooke_ 03:26 Brooke_ 0/ 03:20 Brooke_ kia ora 03:18 jenkins_koha Starting build 181 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 3 j 18 h ago) 03:18 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Fixing typo in fix for tests 03:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #180: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/180/ 02:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5922 : Template changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=548a670eaf59b9c0e761f3b1e2691da5b9378496> / Bug 5922 : Functional Changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=90962ec3803b438f8aaca7401bcbce39e991bbbe> 02:38 jenkins_koha Starting build 180 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 3 j 17 h ago) 02:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6154 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Default sorting by title doesn't work 02:38 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 6154: Default sorting by title doesn't work 02:38 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #179: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/179/ 02:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing typo in fix for tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=16b917c2f8a6a41aa189ee9028e00c9502b62339> 02:09 space_librarian g'night 02:09 space_librarian g 02:00 chris_n g'night 02:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6154: Default sorting by title doesn't work <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=499c694daf408571cc8370b4c20568336ba35cde> 02:00 * chris_n hits the hay 01:59 jenkins_koha Starting build 179 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 3 j 16 h ago) 01:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6126 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Slip print doesn't work on Webkit based browsers 01:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6174 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Ordering fails 01:03 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 6126: Slip print doesn't work on Webkit based browsers 01:03 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6174: Fix ordering of existing title 01:03 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: When running the tests a user is not logged in so C4::Context->userenv 01:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #178: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/178/ 00:40 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (12:00 PM NZST on April 13, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling). 00:40 rangi @wunder wellington nz 00:40 huginn chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 15.9�C (8:38 PM EDT on April 12, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.41 in 995.8 hPa (Steady). 00:40 chris_n @wunder 28334 00:24 jenkins_koha Starting build 178 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 3 j 15 h ago) 00:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5067 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED, bulkmarcimport.pl import script removes dashes in ISBN fields 00:24 jenkins_koha Frédéric Demians: Bug 5067 Add a cleanisbn param to bulkmarcimport.pl 00:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #177: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/177/ 00:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_6126' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce06b67f5e9ec1ca0de3bbf8e03dc5c0f0610fa8> / Bug 6126: Slip print doesn't work on Webkit based browsers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=97712c2cca26bc84e8486cbda1b428c489caf070>