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23:59 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6174: Fix ordering of existing title <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f11ba1343c0175afb6b6d5eba8cca535a7d1cb57> / When running the tests a user is not logged in so C4::Context->userenv <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=25d6beb80506370b8f237f9ab1e1e29eebd55f50>
23:49 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5067 Add a cleanisbn param to bulkmarcimport.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9d082bcdc353d5f49703cd598d5f3cc1f0f55da>
23:48 glernil          good day!
23:47 rangi            hi glernil
23:44 jenkins_koha     Starting build 177 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 3 j 14 h ago)
23:39 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6170 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, 'More options' in advanced search broken
23:39 jenkins_koha     * Colin Campbell: Bug 6170: restore more options to staff adv search
23:39 jenkins_koha     * Colin Campbell: Bug 6170 restore more options to advanced search
23:39 jenkins_koha     * Colin Campbell: Bug 6170: Do not prematurely group results
23:39 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #176: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/176/
23:07 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6170: restore more options to staff adv search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ea74bef65a9c5e14a6026aa2c9942fe511a87b3> / Bug 6170 restore more options to advanced search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8384c95eef0b67cf1666a05c8d98ce777d51372> / Bug 6170: Do not prematurely group results <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8
22:59 jenkins_koha     Starting build 176 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 3 j 13 h ago)
22:21 rangi            http://twitpic.com/photos/DougCurrie
22:21 rangi            http://www.librarytechnology.org/lwc-displaylibrary.pl?RC=59638
22:21 rangi            this is very cool!
21:41 cait             good night all :)
21:41 cait             same here
21:41 jcamins_away     Good night, #koha.
21:41 jcamins_away     I think it's time to call it a night.
21:26 cait             sorry to have to say no
21:26 jcamins_away     cait: thanks.
21:25 cait             jcamins: no
21:24 jenkins_koha     Christopher Hall: comma fix
21:24 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #175: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/175/
21:23 jcamins_away     That seems very familiar, but I can't find a syspref for it.
21:23 jcamins_away     Is there a way to limit the number of suggestions a patron can make?
21:23 rangi            there we go ;)
21:22 cait             html_template_pro :)
21:16 cait             ok
21:15 rangi            you can test that if you checkout the tag (i forget its name, it was in the mail i sent to koha-devel)
21:13 cait             tomas rebased it but I was travelling back from marseille and missed it
21:13 cait             still using the old templates
21:12 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5791 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Robust handling of deleted biblios/authorities
21:12 cait             rangi: last one for today - is there a way I could test bug 5791?
21:11 bywater          Trying a different connection
21:11 cait             ah :)
21:11 bywater          Hey cait (it's just brendan on my iPad
21:11 cait             ?
21:11 cait             hi bywater
21:09 rangi            ta
21:09 cait             done
21:08 rangi            failed qa
21:08 rangi            yup
21:07 cait             I did, change bug status?
21:06 rangi            can you note that please
21:06 rangi            or not :)
21:06 rangi            ah, that would do it
21:06 cait             rangi: about 4959 - it seems the database update is missing - only adds the syspref to the pref file
21:03 cait             lol
21:03 cait             hehe
21:02 cait             found it :)
21:02 rangi            Achtung! Konsole! Schnell!
21:02 cait             almost tempted to give it bad karma for that
21:02 rangi            its probably called
21:02 rangi            ahh
21:02 cait             sorry, jenkins forces me to look at a German interface... and no language chooser
21:02 rangi            on jenkins
21:02 rangi            link on the left
21:02 cait             console output?
21:01 rangi            thank you
21:01 cait             there is a sign-off on the list from Colin - I will change bugzilla
21:01 rangi            cait: you can look at the console output to see the test ill try to fix it later today
21:00 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4959 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED, Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket.
21:00 cait             bug 4959
21:00 cait             hm 4959 signed off?
20:59 cait             does it show the test too? or only the number for the test?
20:58 cait             hm
20:50 rangi            http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
20:50 rangi            members even
20:50 rangi            oh now its still memebrs
20:49 rangi            ill fix that when i get time
20:49 rangi            test for templates failing, cos they arent tmpl anymore
20:49 rangi            you can see why here
20:48 cait             why is jenkins unhappy?
20:44 jenkins_koha     Starting build 175 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 3 j 11 h ago)
20:43 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5917' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6073bd86e24494cd12125a4cd47772c672bbd4a5> / comma fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d3273595cb38cd29a83448ba3f83ecca1a993d2>
20:43 huginn           bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.1�C (1:43 PM PDT on April 12, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady).
20:42 bg               @wunder 93109
20:42 cait             done
20:41 cait             but the functionality looks good
20:41 cait             it doesn't fix the layout problem
20:41 cait             sending now :)
20:41 rangi            soon as they are signed off ill push them
20:40 rangi            the second one fixes the more options
20:40 rangi            the first patch fixes 5099
20:40 rangi            yes
20:40 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5099 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Avanced Search page unavailable when OpacGroupResults is used
20:40 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6170 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, 'More options' in advanced search broken
20:40 cait             hm, possible that colin's patches for bug 6170 fix bug 5099 too?
20:39 cait             chris.hall++
20:39 rangi            i just pushed it
20:39 rangi            well chris hall did
20:39 jcamins_away     Ah, yes, I saw, thanks.
20:39 cait             only wanted to tell you that rangi fixed the comma problem in patron search :)
20:39 cait             ah
20:39 jcamins_away     What?
20:38 cait             jcamins: ?
20:38 rangi            what is unclear is if it applies to libraries
20:37 rangi            yep
20:36 wizzyrea         ...
20:35 druthb           That, and outlawing burqas.
20:35 wizzyrea         did the french really just pass a law that requires passwords to be kept in cleartext?
20:35 wizzyrea         whoa wait
20:26 cait             ah, now I missed oleonard
20:12 wizzyrea         and definitely, if you try to issue an item that is on issue to another patron, it goes freak nasty and doesn't do anything.
20:11 wizzyrea         it did the thing where it didn't process after the renewals again
20:11 wizzyrea         but the 2nd time I tested it
20:11 wizzyrea         I saw your glitchy behavior once
20:11 wizzyrea         ok, rhcl
20:10 rangi            ahhh
20:10 druthb           at the hotel lobby; I head home tomorrow.
20:10 cait             druthb: they ate all the cookies :(
20:10 rangi            on the road again?
20:09 druthb           hi, rangi.
20:09 rangi            heya druthb
20:09 gmcharlt         heh
20:08 rangi            for your blog
20:08 rangi            gmcharlt: there you go, theres my new default test search string
20:08 rangi            http://clavius.tij.uia.mx/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=amigo
20:08 rangi            hehe
20:08 rangi            running_official_koha++
20:08 rangi            running 3.2.6
20:07 rangi            ohh koha in Tijuana
20:07 cait             I hope so too :)
20:07 rangi            his stuff pretty much always works, so im pretty hopeful it will be an easy sign off :)
20:06 rangi            yay
20:06 cait             going to look at the patches colin send for adv search now
20:06 cait             great idea :)
20:06 cait             oleonard++
20:06 rangi            woo hoo!
20:06 oleonard         I can take a look at the template tomorrow
20:05 rangi            (signed off and tested)
20:05 rangi            gmcharlt/oleonard: id accept that patch for 3.4.0 if you get it to me by wednesday next week
20:02 cait             oh noes
20:02 rhcl             we ate 'em all
20:02 cait             oh, I missed the cookies?
20:02 rhcl             you missed all the good stuff cait
20:01 cait             back
20:01 wizzyrea         well then we need to fix the effin reporting, because it's VERY misleading
20:00 rhcl             yes
20:00 wizzyrea         I bet your glitch is a renewal
20:00 rhcl             as I said, however, everything does make it into the db
20:00 wizzyrea         heh
20:00 rhcl             it's supposed to generate a list after processing, but sometimes if we glitch it doesn't finish and generate that list
20:00 wizzyrea         no, in my testing it says "completed"
19:59 rhcl             ok, ours does the upload OK, and sometimes it gets stuck on the processing, and appears to stop, but everything does get loaded into the Koha db
19:59 wizzyrea         even if you had 2 renewals in a row, it would do both and then nothing after
19:59 wizzyrea         in my testing it stopped after renewals
19:59 wizzyrea         processing gives you a list of actions that were taken
19:58 wizzyrea         there's a button for each
19:58 wizzyrea         you upload -> then process
19:58 wizzyrea         no, at processing time
19:58 rhcl             so at upload time is where are are having problems? I don't think we have any probs with that, our uploads seem to work fine
19:58 wizzyrea         but everything after that - gone
19:58 wizzyrea         so you got the prior to the renewal issues, and the renewal
19:57 wizzyrea         and the few more issues were not processed
19:57 wizzyrea         because I had probably 2 issues, then a renewal, then a few more issues
19:57 wizzyrea         but i'd be really curious to see if yours fails with the renewals
19:57 wizzyrea         hm yea that's the one I was looking at
19:56 rhcl             1.2
19:56 wizzyrea         easy to use
19:56 wizzyrea         the one I was looking at was really readable
19:56 wizzyrea         or the new one that doesn't have that dependency
19:56 rhcl             checkins
19:56 rhcl             actually, for both checkouts and checking
19:55 wizzyrea         are you using the version of offline circ that uses cakephp?
19:55 rhcl             to scroll down to the bottom of the list to visually confirm the checkout was correct
19:55 wizzyrea         well that's not how the file is configured, and I'm assuming it processes from top to bottom
19:55 rhcl             right now each new transaction goes to the bottom of the list, and when we have 100 or so the checkerouter has
19:54 rhcl             when we do off-line check checkouts we need the transactioins to appear at the top and age downward....
19:54 hdl              if you could checkout circulation stuff, it is already in the patches we proposed.
19:53 wizzyrea         force them to scan it
19:53 wizzyrea         just like renewal
19:53 wizzyrea         replace the checkbox with "on hold"
19:52 wizzyrea         that is such a good idea
19:52 wizzyrea         oleonard
19:52 gmcharlt         but wouldn't take more than a bit of text to explain, at least for 3.4.0
19:52 oleonard         Of course it's a little obscure from the point of view of the librarian understanding why it is blocked
19:51 gmcharlt         oleonard++ # although the forehead I slapped doesn't thank you
19:51 oleonard         Come to think of it, we already block the "on hold" checkouts from having a "renew" checkbox. We could easily do the same in the template for the "check in" checkbox.
19:50 gmcharlt         and (with a slight thawing of the string freeze) is not impossible for 3.4.0
19:49 wizzyrea         mhm
19:49 rangi            yeah gmcharlt's solution would be fast and would make it a lot better right away
19:48 wizzyrea         even when it does something, like put an item in transit!
19:48 wizzyrea         it's a silent fail too, *no* indication that you need to do something
19:48 wizzyrea         is pretty evil.
19:48 wizzyrea         that one
19:48 cait             fix the evil bugs!
19:47 rangi            next step do something fancier :)
19:47 rangi            but yeah first step, dont let them be returned
19:47 wizzyrea         in an attempt to summon him with the power of my mind
19:46 wizzyrea         I'm thinking very hard about pianohacker right now....
19:46 * cait           likes the messaging thing at the bottom idea
19:46 wizzyrea         ooo that would be cool (the ajax-y way)
19:46 gmcharlt         thereby signalling to the librarian to check them in individually
19:46 rangi            yep
19:46 rangi            with the messages thingy at the bottom?
19:46 gmcharlt         cheap way of doing (really cheap) would be to have it loudly refuse to check in any items that fill hold requests
19:45 rangi            u know the funky way prefs do it?
19:45 rangi            yeah ui is the trick
19:45 wizzyrea         but we might need oleonard's crack sense of ui design for it
19:45 rangi            for the 3.4 cycle
19:45 rangi            but we can fix that bug before then
19:44 rangi            oleonard: holds rewrite is for 3.6
19:44 cait             ok, switching laptops to do some testing - will be back
19:44 * cait           makes a mental note
19:43 cait             hm, probably should do that too
19:43 wizzyrea         that one has been broken for so long. We usually just hide that column, heh.
19:42 rangi            it will be now
19:42 oleonard         I wonder if that is on sekjal's radar for the holds overhaul
19:42 rangi            ta
19:41 wizzyrea         done and done
19:41 rangi            and well aim for 3.4.1
19:41 rangi            mark it for 3.4
19:41 wizzyrea         you're the boss
19:41 huginn           04Bug 3345: normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Return All items on patron detail does not initiate transfer of holds
19:41 wizzyrea         http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3345
19:41 rangi            make it critical
19:41 wizzyrea         I think so yes, let me look
19:40 rangi            wizzyrea: is there a bug reported for return all not triggering holds?
19:40 wizzyrea         XXX item has a hold on it and requires attention!
19:40 rangi            yes
19:40 wizzyrea         at the end of processing
19:40 wizzyrea         right, when you upload the file it should tell you
19:39 wizzyrea         with no s. Happy fingers to day
19:39 rhcl             rangi: but it won't know in offline, it would only know at checkin (upload)
19:39 wizzyrea         is the optimum solutions
19:39 wizzyrea         what rangi said
19:39 wizzyrea         but ideally
19:39 wizzyrea         is to use offline circ only for issues
19:39 rangi            it should check holds every time it sees a book
19:39 wizzyrea         my solution to that particular problem
19:39 * wizzyrea       also wants to upload and be done with it
19:39 rhcl             but still, to me it seems like there should be a better work flow
19:38 wizzyrea         mhm
19:38 rhcl             They just want to upload and be done with it
19:38 rhcl             >they say, anyway<
19:38 rhcl             But we don't want to have it flagged at the time we do the batch upload of the off-line transactions
19:38 wizzyrea         (no holds are triggered)
19:38 wizzyrea         (the patron circ screen, the checkboxes, if you return all there it's the same problem)
19:37 rangi            oleonard: yes you do not want to rebase
19:37 oleonard         rangi: I ended up making a copy of the koha-tmpl folder and pasting it into a new branch
19:37 wizzyrea         yea, it would be nice to be able to do batch returns at all that compensate for holds
19:37 rhcl             This sounds like waaay too much work to me--there's gotta be something better.
19:37 rhcl             and looks to see if there are any holds in that home's checked out items, and if so the guy sets that item aside so he can return it separately from the others
19:37 oleonard         rangi: Here's my other question. After completing that process I can't do 'git rebase origin' because it want to replay my changes from before the TT conversion
19:36 rhcl             ...the TS manager...
19:36 rhcl             Right now out TS manager, before the outreach guy leaves for his runs, pulls up the checkout record for each nursing home (each place has a unique card),
19:36 wizzyrea         you return them using the offline circ?
19:36 rangi            chris.hall++
19:36 rhcl             We have an outreach program to nursing homes. They may have books checked out that a patron has subsequently put on hold.
19:36 rangi            -f for a single file
19:36 rhcl             wizzyrea: Here's what we we do...
19:35 rangi            thats it
19:35 oleonard         rangi: ./installer/html-template-to-template-toolkit.pl  -c --koharoot /path/to/the/root ?
19:33 wizzyrea         (offline circ)
19:33 wizzyrea         I'm more concerned about renewal operations breaking subsequent issues
19:33 rangi            my bad sorry
19:33 oleonard         I'll do that
19:33 rangi            use -c
19:33 rangi            you might wanna reply to my mail saying if you have js/css etc changes
19:32 wizzyrea         rhcl: that's not really the one that I'm most concerned about
19:32 mtj              heya wiz
19:32 rangi            copies those files
19:32 rangi            with the convert script
19:32 rangi            -c
19:32 rangi            ahh yeah sorry
19:31 oleonard         I had to be sure to copy the updated css/js/img files into koha-tt before replacing koha-tmpl with koha-tt
19:31 wizzyrea         hey mtj
19:31 oleonard         rangi: The problem I ran into was that after following your instructions I was in a branch with koha-tmpl and koha-tt. koha-tmpl still had the updated css/js/img files
19:31 rangi            I think there a few ways, what I've been doing is splitting the patch into 2 one that is the tmpl changes the other everything else
19:30 wizzyrea         rhcl correct
19:29 rangi            myabe drop a mail to the devel list asking how they did it
19:29 rangi            oleonard: tcohen and marcelr have done the changing patches for tt
19:28 mtj              heya folks
19:28 cait             good morning rangi
19:28 rangi            morning
19:27 rhcl             you upload your off-line circ records it doesn't raise a flag when it sees the hold?
19:27 rhcl             has a book checked out, and a patron places a hold on that book. So the hold is on it, right? And you are saying when ...
19:26 rhcl             OK, so lets say a patron at one of our nursing homes (the outreach is where we use offline circ)...
19:25 rhcl             well,
19:25 wizzyrea         but you haven't seen any of those things?
19:25 rhcl             we're talking about all this here
19:21 wizzyrea         where the problem is
19:21 wizzyrea         in all cases the right data exists in the file... it appears to be in the processing
19:19 wizzyrea         not the one with cakephp
19:19 wizzyrea         now, this is with the october version of offline circ
19:18 rhcl             oh
19:17 wizzyrea         see above
19:17 wizzyrea         ^^
19:17 rhcl             wizzyrea: what probs are you seeing w/ offline circ? We haven't had many probs w/ it.
19:12 wizzyrea         no small feat!
19:12 * wizzyrea       congratulates oleonard
19:12 wizzyrea         if an item is renewed, it works, but all subsequent transactions fail
19:11 wizzyrea         if an item is checked out to patron 1 and issued to patron 2 with the offline circ, nothing happens
19:10 wizzyrea         for one: returns processed by the koc uploader don't trigger holds (on the bright side, if we fix that UI problem of batch returns then we'll have solved the problem of batch returns :P)
19:10 * oleonard       thinks he finally got his jqueryUI branch converted to TT correctly
19:09 wizzyrea         will be filing lots of bugs on that one
19:09 wizzyrea         wow, offline circ is pretty broken :(
18:53 adnc             Error 404" whenever I search for  an author
18:53 adnc             I get an "An Error has Occurred
18:48 adnc             since I would need restrictions to opac
18:48 adnc             gmcharlt, I think it is better for me to wait till 3.4 is out. I'm just upgrading my lenny to squeeze
18:44 gmcharlt         adnc: forcing it to lenny is possible, but only if you can live with a franken-Debian
18:44 oleonard         I keep getting to the end and finding something didn't make it through
18:44 oleonard         Still trying to figure out this template conversion process
18:43 gmcharlt         adnc: correct, Koha's packaging started with squeeze
18:41 cait             cookie?
18:41 oleonard         Grrr...
17:16 cait             eythian is the package expert
17:16 cait             sorry, I have no experience with the packages
17:10 adnc             but i see that the packages are all for squeeze
17:09 adnc             ahh
17:09 cait             debian.koha-community.org
17:09 adnc             is koha packaging it?
17:09 adnc             and where can I than find debian packages for
17:09 cait             the new release will happen soon
17:08 cait             no
17:07 adnc             is 3.4 stable?
17:06 cait             afaik it's only in 3.4
17:01 adnc             does someone know if the koha latest stable release has opac authentication/restrictions?
16:59 adnc             cait, when i use the other search options the same happens
16:43 cait             author...
16:41 cait             you search for the other using another search option?
16:41 cait             hm
16:40 adnc             I just see that when i search in opac for a book with the search string "a" it finds all the books, but when i search for a authors surname or name i get an "An Error has Occurred Error 404"
16:39 cait             cool
16:39 adnc             cait, thanks that works.
16:35 cait             habs noch nicht ausprobiert - ist ganz neu
16:35 cait             yes
16:35 adnc             cait, could it be OpacPublic?
16:34 oleonard         jcamins: Hunh?
16:34 adnc             cait, danke
16:34 cait             adnc: irgendwas mit priv* denke ich
16:33 jcamins          oleonard: cherry-picking rebases?
16:31 cait             I don't have a working koha on this computer - check the sys prefs
16:30 cait             hm, I think there is an option for that in the new version
16:29 adnc             hdl, cait thank you. I would like to install it on my vserver which is running debian, but I do not want to have the opac that open. is it possible to secure it?
16:28 cait             but what hdl said
16:28 oleonard         jcamins: Same problem. When I try to rebase it tries to replay my commits from before the TT conversion
16:28 cait             andc: you updated to the last dev version - it's unstable at the moment, because of a bigger change
16:28 hdl              aptitude install templatetoolkit-perl
16:28 cait             new module :)
16:27 cait             yep
16:27 adnc             is there anything I need to consider?
16:27 adnc             BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 32.
16:26 adnc             Can't locate Template.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/koha/kohaclone /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 32.
16:26 adnc             i did an update and now i have a software error:
16:26 jcamins          cait: remind me how to install a translation?
16:22 cait             jcamins++
16:21 oleonard         I'll try that
16:21 jcamins          The amended commit from step 3.
16:20 oleonard         What is the "new commit" in step 5?
16:19 jcamins          6) submit
16:19 jcamins          5) cherry-pick the new commit onto the bugfix branch
16:19 jcamins          4) check out your bugfix branch
16:19 jcamins          Right, I think the rest of the procedure (if I understand correctly) is:
16:19 oleonard         3) run the conversion script
16:18 oleonard         2) cherry pick my changes into that branch
16:18 oleonard         I followed the instructions: 1. check out new branch based on that particular commit
16:18 jcamins          oleonard: I think you cherry-pick it onto a new branch.
16:17 cait             hm
16:16 oleonard         If I rebase origin git tries to replay my changes starting from before the TT conversion and of course I get a conflict
16:16 cait             and if he wants to convert old to new - I think rangi sent a mail how to do that
16:16 cait             only had to install this new cpan module
16:16 cait             and it just worked
16:16 cait             hm I just did a git pull
16:15 wizzyrea         he's got a branch that has both sets of templates, what is the next step? remove koha-tmpl and move koha-tt into its place, rebase origin?
16:15 cait             what does he want to do?
16:14 cait             huh?
16:12 wizzyrea         cait, do you have advice for oleonard re: how to get his TT templates into his working branch?
16:12 wizzyrea         remove/rename koha-tmpl and rename koha-tt into it's place
16:11 wizzyrea         oleonard: I think that's right
16:05 oleonard         remove koha-tmpl and move koha-tt into its place, rebase origin?
16:00 oleonard         I've got a branch now that has both sets of templates
15:59 oleonard         So, I followed rangi's instructions for converting my in-progress tmpl branch to a t:t one, but what's next?
15:49 adnc             hdl, thanks
15:49 adnc             now on koha aswel
15:49 adnc             ohhh that works great
15:48 hdl              show
15:48 adnc             hdl and the results?
15:47 hdl              f @attr 1=7 myauthor
15:47 hdl              f @attr 1=4 mytitle
15:47 hdl              the query you did is invalid
15:45 adnc             [114] Unsupported Use attribute -- v2 addinfo 'Unsupported use attribute'
15:41 hdl              yaz-client tcp://test:port/database
15:41 hdl              yaz-client http://test:port/database
15:41 adnc             what i get when i search for nything
15:41 adnc             [236] Access to specified database denied -- v2 addinfo 'Access to specified database denied'
15:41 adnc             hdl, how can I select a database with yaz-client?
15:35 hdl              http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/administration-extended-services.html#administration-extended-services-yaz-client
15:33 adnc             hdl, yes but I don't know how to use it
15:33 hdl              you should try with yaz-client.
15:32 adnc             hdl, it doesn deliver any entries
15:32 hdl              adnc: why are you asking ?
15:30 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6174] Ordering fails <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6174>
15:30 adnc             hdl, is there anything wrong with this entry http://irspy.indexdata.com/full.html?id=Z39.50%3Alibrary.bilgi.edu.tr%3A210%2FINNOPAC
15:23 adnc             hdl, thank you
15:21 hdl              http://irspy.indexdata.com/ here you may find what you need.
15:16 wizzyrea         oh bummer you just missed kf
15:14 adnc             has someone got  a serveradress for z39.50 in germany with  a large catalog?
15:10 rk               thanks, that's what I thought but without access to root myself I have to convey this info to our IT dept.
15:10 kf               will be back later!
15:09 kf               ok, time to leave :)
15:09 hdl              MAILTO= in cronjobs ;)
15:09 jcamins_         rk: you add a MAILTO=me@wherever.com in your crontab.
15:09 rk               okay. i'm trying to figure out where to change my mailto options so email goes to my account instead of root when cron jobs are done
15:09 wizzyrea         *nod*
15:09 hdl              So reconciling two diverging branches is heavy PITA.
15:08 hdl              And he could not send patches.
15:08 hdl              it was developped in tortoise on windows.
15:08 kf               rk: sure
15:07 jcamins_         The RM at the time refused it.
15:07 rk               morning everyone. is this a place where a newb can ask a quick question?
15:07 wizzyrea         so... wasp nest... why has it not been contributed to koha?
15:07 hdl              is really a great change.
15:06 hdl              the support of DOM and of a schema for biblios (if ever achieved)...
15:06 * jcamins_       would love to see the DOM biblio indexing.
15:05 hdl              but the work of tumer was really impressive in the background.
15:05 wizzyrea         JAFoK?
15:05 wizzyrea         JAFK :)
15:05 hdl              actually it is just another fork of koha.
15:05 wizzyrea         mhm
15:05 oleonard         pre-3.0
15:04 hdl              it was based on npl theme.
15:04 hdl              well, not so much.
15:04 wizzyrea         but I"m not sure I like it all that well really
15:04 wizzyrea         heavy styling changes I can see
15:04 hdl              too
15:03 hdl              using a custom schema for biblios
15:03 jcamins_         !!
15:03 wizzyrea         oo
15:03 hdl              for instance.
15:03 hdl              dom configuration for biblios
15:03 wizzyrea         (just curious
15:03 wizzyrea         hdl: ++ in what ways?
15:02 hdl              but as a film is novel based.
15:02 hdl              Yes it IS koha based.
15:02 hdl              tumer did so much work on his own that it is now koha+++
15:01 adnc             they have  note on the bottom saying it is based on koha
15:01 adnc             used to be?
15:01 hdl              So that used to be koha
15:01 hdl              Yes.
15:00 adnc             interesting to see that the government is using koha for the parliament-library
15:00 oleonard         tumer's work?
15:00 adnc             hdl, thats the same, they belong together
15:00 hdl              adnc: looks pretty much like http://library.neu.edu.tr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
14:57 rhcl             interesting link
14:57 hdl              It should.
14:57 jcamins_         Or is it deprecated in favor of something else?
14:57 jcamins_         Does DelBiblio work?
14:55 clrh_            thanks fredericd kf
14:47 adnc             did you know this: http://kutuphane.tbmm.gov.tr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl this is the turkish parliament using koha
14:46 kf               clrh_: hope that makes sense :)
14:43 fredericd        (for Perl script)
14:43 fredericd        from my reccent reading on the subject, I've a 'kind' of consensus on using Locale::TextDomain module
14:43 kf               clrh_: I would love to see every notice in the notices system and using message_queue table, so you can make changes to the text and track what was sent
14:42 kf               because that is really ugly
14:42 kf               ?
14:42 kf               talking about the address change thing
14:41 kf               make it a notice in the notices system would be best
14:41 clrh_            kf example: mail content
14:41 kf               get them into the templates I think
14:41 hdl              And what should we do with perl script which has some strings to translate embedded.
14:40 hdl              What are the best tools.
14:40 fredericd        hdl: For the middle term, a string 'extracter' per file type would be the solution...
14:40 kf               ah
14:40 hdl              I am asking for best practises.
14:40 hdl              kf I don't want to.
14:40 conan            jcamins_: thanks
14:40 kf               this sounds not good to me
14:40 hdl              fredericd: 3.4 for french is talking TMPL_VAR... Looks odd.
14:40 kf               hdl: you want to have strings for transtlation in the perl scrips?
14:39 jcamins_         git checkout -b bug_whatever conan.master
14:38 jcamins_         Rather than git checkout -b conan.master kc/master
14:38 jcamins_         conan: no, I mean git checkout -b bug_whatever kc/master
14:38 hdl              and so on.
14:38 hdl              and in sql files... And in a opac-userupdate.pl
14:38 wizzyrea         even so, I never noticed it before
14:38 oleonard         wizzyrea: The first thing I see is "CVS," which means it's a wee bit out of date ;)
14:38 conan            jcamins: you mean for other versions? like this?: git checkout -b conan.master v3.02.06/master
14:38 hdl              for instance, in C4::Accounts
14:37 hdl              In perl scripts.
14:37 hdl              not in templates.
14:37 wizzyrea         templates.readme in koha-tmpl
14:37 jcamins_         Template readme?
14:37 clrh_            I have a question about translation in koha: template is ok but I would like to translation strings into perl module (logs, mails content or others) and for the moment I have no idea to do it - did you ever think about it? fredericd or tcohen maybe?
14:37 wizzyrea         before now
14:37 wizzyrea         ... how did I nver see the template-readme
14:36 hdl              fredericd: what would be the best practise for in perl script strings translatability ?
14:35 jcamins          What I usually do is have every branch directly track master.
14:35 fredericd        hdl: French .po files loaded on community site are the last ones.
14:35 jcamins          conan: yep.
14:32 conan            to track master I mean
14:32 conan            ?
14:32 conan            jcamins: is this the line: git checkout -b conan.master origin/master
14:31 kf               :)
14:31 wizzyrea         there are still occasional bugs and gotchas but a lot fewer than before.
14:30 wizzyrea         we went live on koha and the number of weird issues has gone WAY down.
14:30 wizzyrea         not that I'm aware of
14:30 oleonard         Still problems with the timeout?
14:29 oleonard         Yay!
14:29 wizzyrea         :)
14:29 wizzyrea         oleonard: your re-done search to hold? Big hit.
14:29 wizzyrea         and that
14:29 oleonard         awesomely confusing.
14:29 wizzyrea         that too
14:29 oleonard         confusingly awesome.
14:28 wizzyrea         nah, git's confusing :)
14:28 conan            I'm a moron, sorry
14:28 conan            Your branch is behind 'origin/master' by 624 commits, and can be fast-forwarded
14:28 conan            Switched to branch 'master'
14:28 conan            $ git checkout master
14:28 conan            I guess no:
14:28 jcamins          conan: only if you're tracking origin/master
14:26 conan            jcamins: if I pull when standing on another branch, it pulls everything anyway, right?
14:25 wizzyrea         (so I can explicitly document that in the git info)
14:25 conan            oh wait...
14:25 conan            jcamins: I did it this morning...
14:25 wizzyrea         what's the best way to do it
14:25 wizzyrea         speaking of updating
14:24 jcamins          conan: you need to update your repository. git pull
14:24 kf               thx :)
14:24 jcamins          git log ${COMMITID}..kc/master
14:24 conan            jcamins: yup, that's the strange thing
14:23 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5880 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, C4/Koha.pm : adding two functions GetAutorisedValueByCode and GetKohaImageurlFromAuthorisedValues
14:23 conan            Bug 5880 : C4/Koha.pm : adding two functions GetAutorisedValueByCode and GetKohaImageurlFromAuthorisedValues
14:23 kf               jcamins: how did you find out? :)
14:23 jcamins          That's almost a month old.
14:23 kf               hm, commit message?
14:21 conan            d057f6574356bb0f5ecf5a4aaa92455a87c99395
14:21 kf               what's the last commit git log does show you?
14:21 conan            and now I'm in conan.master
14:21 kf               hm. w
14:21 kmkale           bye all. good night
14:21 kf               hm
14:20 conan            kf: I did this: git checkout -b conan.master master
14:18 conan            let me re-check
14:17 kf               hm master I mean
14:17 kf               are you sure you are on head?
14:16 kf               I have checked the files
14:16 conan            *reappeared
14:15 conan            then somehow the bug reapeared, should I reopen the bug? or do we check it on another fresh install somewhere else?
14:15 kf               hm.
14:14 kf               it should
14:13 conan            kf: however I might be making a git-use mistake here, if the bug shows as solved, does it mean it's already in master branch?
14:12 conan            kf: yes, this is a test install, so I added all the samples I could grab
14:12 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6170] 'More options' in advanced search broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6170>
14:11 kf               conan: have you installed with english sample files?
14:11 kf               conan: hm, probably not
14:11 magnuse          wizzyrea: it's as simple as: #REDIRECT [[Name of the other page]]
14:09 jcamins          hdl: if you choose a library or category from the dropdowns, you were getting all results from that library or category, no matter what search you specified.
14:08 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5893 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Duplicate entry 'AuthoritiesLog' in sysprefs.sql
14:08 conan            I just did a fresh install from master and stomped into bug 5893, which is marked resolved. Is that ok?
14:05 wizzyrea         Yay! Your wiki skills far outpace mine, sir. :)
14:05 magnuse          wizzyrea: i made Mysqldump Library redirect to Backing up Koha, for now. we can make them distinct if and when we have the content for it
14:00 hdl              jcamins: was the search broken before the template change ?
13:58 jcamins          Ah.
13:58 kf               so i just browsed around a little
13:58 kf               I knew that I had tested using the template_test branch from the catalyst repo
13:50 jcamins          kf: how did you find that patch?
13:49 kmkale           yup
13:49 kf               does it work for your library?
13:48 kf               but a fast hack
13:48 kmkale           not so cool. Just a hack
13:48 kf               see it - very cool! :)
13:46 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6173 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Cronjob to send account expiry notices
13:46 kmkale           kf bug 6173
13:42 kf               we will have to ask rangi abou it
13:40 jcamins          kf: any idea why that wasn't merged?
13:39 wizzyrea         I suppose we could delete one or the other and rename if it is bothersome. I like the idea of a mysqldump library, they could be distinct if necessary
13:38 wizzyrea         oh hrmph.
13:37 magnuse          sadly, i can't remove the categories from the old page, since the category plugin is messed up
13:37 kf               jcamins: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=3fb834ec936a5bef31d0e1104bbf03e3341850be
13:36 magnuse          i'll make a redirect from Mysqldump... to that new page
13:35 magnuse          good point
13:33 wizzyrea         because there was a conspicuously missing gap in the howtos (and it's a commonly asked question) "how do I back this thing up"
13:32 wizzyrea         I ran out of time to make the content reflect that change yesterday
13:32 wizzyrea         magnus_breakfast: my reason is that I didn't want to delete your page, but it wasn't clear in the mysqldump page that *this is how you back up koha*
13:31 jcamins          Ah.
13:31 kf               but I suspect not all things that chris hall fixed are in master now
13:31 jcamins          Not in Master.
13:31 kf               it was fixed
13:31 jcamins          *.
13:31 kf               for only reporting
13:31 jcamins          It still doesn't work?
13:31 huginn           kf: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
13:31 kf               kf--
13:31 jcamins          Why's it crossed out?
13:31 kf               ah
13:30 oleonard         Right up there with "trivial to implement"
13:30 jcamins          kf++ # for fixing the bug
13:30 jcamins          Yay!
13:30 jcamins          kf: oh, really?
13:30 magnus_breakfast famous last words: "that can be fixed easily" ;-)
13:29 kf               actually I had that on the wiki page for template toolkit testing as a bug
13:29 kf               that can be fixed easily
13:29 kf               jcamins: ah
13:29 magnus_breakfast wizzyrea: not sure i understand the need for both http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Backing_up_Koha and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Mysqldump_Library ?
13:24 wizzyrea         :D
13:24 chris_n          lol :)
13:23 wizzyrea         "take this, it's dangerous to go alone"
13:23 * wizzyrea       gives chris_n a scuba tank
13:23 chris_n          ouch
13:23 jcamins          Unknown column 'surnamecomma0' in 'order clause'
13:22 * chris_n        takes a deep breath and slips back into the depths of his bottomless work buffer
13:20 wizzyrea         doubly-broken--
13:20 chris_n          doubly-broken--
13:20 oleonard         Super secret double-broken.
13:20 jcamins          It's doubly-broken now.
13:20 jcamins          oleonard: I was mistaken about the patron search being broken before the template change.
13:20 wizzyrea         dont >.>
13:20 * chris_n        is running namoroka
13:20 * oleonard       hasn't upgraded to FF4 yet
13:20 gmcharlt         very disappointing
13:19 gmcharlt         chris_n: yeah, I've had the same experience with FF4
13:19 chris_n          the "gray" screen of death
13:19 chris_n          and FF obliges me by crashing several times per day :P
13:19 chris_n          I tend to have multiple gmail tabs open along with several other sites heavy in JS (sorry)
13:19 wizzyrea         hrmph. I tried ff4 a couple of weeks ago and fled wailing back into chrome's loving, fast arms
13:19 oleonard         Java?
13:18 chris_n          firefox seems to be getting worse at handling heavy java apps
13:18 chris_n          trying to keep my nose above the water
13:18 wizzyrea         how has firefox provoked your ire?
13:18 * chris_n        waves in the general direction of kansas and wizzyrea
13:17 * wizzyrea       waves
13:17 wizzyrea         it's a rare chris_n sighting!
13:17 wizzyrea         !!
13:17 * chris_n        lowers his opinion of FF one notch >:-(
13:15 hdl              will search surname as a
13:15 hdl              {surname=>"a"}
13:14 hdl              In fact, the search is expecting a hash ref or an array ref or a string
13:14 * jcamins        too
13:13 wizzyrea         >.<
13:13 hdl              sorry to hear that.
13:11 jcamins          Actually, patron search is entirely broken with the template change.
13:10 jcamins          Hm.
13:09 hdl              I reckon though that it is not really as user friendly as SQL::Abstract or a true ORM
13:09 hdl              and the passed arguments
13:09 hdl              DEBUG=1 shows you how the SQL built
13:08 hdl              I wrote that... and tried to make it so that it can be debugged.
13:08 hdl              Well I may help.
13:07 jcamins          Hm. That's too bad. The problem is that SQLHelper is... confusing.
13:07 hdl              work
13:07 hdl              jcamins: I think that it was a quick fix... But taht this would need some more.
13:05 jcamins          I'm wondering if a patch from BibLibre that fixes this was missed.
13:05 jcamins          What this does on my system is it gives a list of every single patron at the Teset library, *and* every patron whose name matches "smith".
13:04 jcamins          For example, if I wanted to find all the patrons with the surname "Smith" at the "Test" library, I should be able to type "smith" in the patron search box and choose "Test" from the library dropdown.
13:04 jcamins          Anyway, on your systems is it possible to use the Library and Category dropdowns along with entering a name?
13:03 jcamins          By Stéphane Delaune. :)
13:03 jcamins          Commit 0ee0cc18b314d0123d8436a798bb02c5c1448494
13:03 hdl              But ok ask your question
13:03 hdl              well it is mainly LL who added that... ;)
13:03 jcamins          This is an easy question. :)
13:02 jcamins          But I figure you're the BibLibran around at the moment so I'll ask you. ;)
13:02 jcamins          BibLibre.
13:02 jcamins          Well, not you personally.
13:02 hdl              Have I implemented patron attributes ?
13:01 jcamins          I have a question for you about the way you implemented extended patron attributes.
13:00 hdl              yes
13:00 jcamins          hdl: around?
12:48 jcamins          You're welcome.
12:48 tcohen           thanks jcamins
12:48 jcamins          True.
12:48 tcohen           anyway, bakc to work!
12:48 tcohen           I understand, but a busy RM could not read it right
12:47 jcamins          And, actually, both could be considered signed off, since the first two patches worked fine for 3.2.
12:47 tcohen           now that cherry-picking will be harder maybe we need smething like that
12:46 jcamins          Ah. No.
12:46 tcohen           patch fr rel_3.2 -> needs sign-off
12:46 tcohen           patch for master -> signed-off
12:46 jcamins          Like koha-community.org/get-involved/
12:46 jcamins          What do you mean?
12:46 jcamins          All signed off.
12:46 tcohen           is there a way to make bugzilla have bug status per branch?
12:44 jcamins          I already signed off on the other.
12:44 jcamins          I'm signing off on the TT one.
12:43 tcohen           just in case anyone thinks it should be included in 3.2.7
12:43 tcohen           one for old_templates, and one for master
12:43 tcohen           i sent two patches, thou
12:42 jcamins          Okay, sounds good. :)
12:42 tcohen           yes
12:41 jcamins          Did you squash the two patches into one?
12:41 tcohen           thanks jcamins, I thought I was doing it right
12:41 tcohen           (s/bug number/brackets in the bug number/)
12:41 jcamins          But I can fix it for you here.
12:41 jcamins          Exactly.
12:41 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6126 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Slip print doesn't work on Webkit based browsers
12:41 tcohen           smth like: Bug 6126 - tt - Slip print doesn't work on Webkit based browsers
12:40 tcohen           ok, so I have to ommit the bug number
12:40 jcamins          I'll fix it when I sign off.
12:40 jcamins          If you put the Bug number in square brackets, it disappears when rangi applies it.
12:40 jcamins          Oh, I see the problem!
12:39 jcamins          I was going to sign off on it, in fact. :)
12:39 tcohen           http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=3891
12:39 tcohen           could you please look at a patch I sent today and tell if its ok?
12:39 tcohen           jcamins: ok, perhaps i'm doing it the wrong way
12:39 jcamins          Actually, I don't think rangi said at all.
12:38 jcamins          tcohen: I don't remember.
12:37 tcohen           jcamins: oops, which one i missed?
12:36 jcamins          tcohen: rangi wanted to remind you to put bug numbers in your patches.
12:36 jcamins          Hi tcohen.
12:36 tcohen           hi #koha
12:33 JesseM           hi hdl
12:33 hdl              hi JesseM
12:32 JesseM           Hi kf !
12:31 kf               hi JesseM
12:31 JesseM           Morning #Koha
12:25 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6152] Authority-zebra-indexdefs.xsl should indicate it's automatically generated <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6152>
12:13 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6103] Many MARC21 fields not searched with CCL indexes due to misconfiguration <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6103>
11:57 hdl              will try
11:55 magnuse          ah, keep us posted if you figure out something clever?
11:51 hdl              it depends on vim-perl. Will have to take time for that.
11:51 hdl              magnuse: saw that.
11:45 magnuse          hdl i never used it, but there may be something here: https://github.com/petdance/vim-perl/blob/master/syntax/tt2.vim
11:44 hdl              hi jcamins
11:44 magnuse          good morning jcamins
11:44 jcamins          Good morning, #koha
11:42 magnuse          hiya druthb
11:34 hdl              ?
11:34 hdl              anyone : is there a syntax highlighter for tt in vim
11:30 druthb           hi, magnuse.  :)
11:30 druthb           o/
11:30 magnuse          o/
11:29 hdl              fredericd: how did the update for translation with the sent po files went ?
11:21 rangi            tcohen++  # for the patch rebased for tt
11:20 rangi            have a good day europe
11:20 rangi            ok, time for sleep
11:18 rangi            fredericd: yeah, i dont think we need the version number in the po files
11:14 huginn           rangi: The operation succeeded.
11:14 rangi            @later tell tcohen if you can rebase the patch for bug 5166 on new/enh/bug_5166 it will make it into 3.4.0
11:09 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6169 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Inventory tool fails when ignoreissued set
11:09 jenkins_koha     Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 6169: Inventory tool fails when ignoreissued set
11:09 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #174: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/174/
11:07 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6126] Slip print doesn't work on Webkit based browsers <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6126>
11:03 * magnuse        is writing an email to the norwegian koha list, trying to inspire people to help with translation...
11:02 magnuse          and the proper way to get write access to pootle is to send an introduction to koha-translate?
10:58 magnuse          nods
10:58 rangi            for 3.4.1 .. and for people to download and apply before 3.4.1 if they like
10:57 rangi            after that
10:57 rangi            of course they can keep getting translated
10:57 rangi            ill probably grab them all from pootle arond the 20th
10:56 huginn           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6162] name missing on reading history in opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6162>
10:56 magnuse          rangi: yeah, i was thinkng of the date when it's too late to get them into 3.4
10:55 kf               another thing for my 3.4.x/3.6 wish list
10:55 kf               hmpf.
10:54 kf               and I hoped they would go away
10:54 kf               not about that, but I realised we will still have the annoying tabs messaging and messages in 3.4
10:54 rangi            and they dont have to be finished
10:54 kf               ah no
10:54 rangi            yeah around then
10:54 kf               hm, around 20th probably
10:54 magnuse          is there a date for when the translations have to be finished?
10:45 kf               fredericd++
10:41 rangi            fredericd++
10:38 conan            tcohen: hey! hello there, did you receive my email about suspension modifications?
10:37 conan            hi everyone
10:33 rangi            i think we are better off using them rather than writing our own
10:33 rangi            and there are lots of parsers for html/js/xml
10:31 rangi            its long and overcomplicated
10:31 rangi            but yes, rewritting all the rest would be good
10:30 rangi            and is only 150 lines
10:30 rangi            TTParser.pm works pretty well
10:29 jenkins_koha     Starting build 174 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 3 j 1 h ago)
10:29 fredericd        For 3.6, I'd like to rewrite from scratch the TT parsing machinery...
10:28 rangi            fredericd: ill rename the files when i do the release, but they are fine as 30020000 for now
10:28 rangi            fredericd: fantastic thanks
10:28 rangi            for 3.6 i think we will try get ppl translating as we go, at least for those that want to, see how it goes
10:27 fredericd        rangi: done
10:27 * kf             suddendly doesn't like new features ;)
10:27 rangi            and lots of moving things around = lots of changes
10:27 rangi            lots of new features in 3.4
10:27 rangi            55,000 in staff client
10:27 kf               I kept it uptodate for all the 3.2.x releases and didn't expect that many
10:27 kf               ... sorry, I am still shocked
10:26 kf               only a little better
10:26 kf               hmpf!
10:26 rangi            kf: better than 47,000
10:25 rangi            fredericd: can you give me rights to en-NZ
10:25 kf               http://translate.koha-community.org/de/34/
10:25 kf               translate.koha-community.org
10:25 rangi            ?
10:24 * kf             cries
10:24 kf               18.000!
10:24 rangi            and yeah, if we ever store passwords in cleartext, ill resign as RM :)
10:23 rangi            yep, thats right kf
10:23 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6169: Inventory tool fails when ignoreissued set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f08f67d3f1fb1b7ca9406fbb395c0c68312d0d49>
10:22 kmkale           yeh, the same person also requested usernames and clear text passwoprds of all patrons :(
10:22 kf               here is your one time passwort, go to the opac and be forced to change it
10:22 kf               I would like that
10:22 kf               hehe
10:21 rangi            :)
10:21 * rangi          makes a note to break that feature at some point and replace it with one that sends a one off token
10:20 rangi            i personally hate sending passwords in cleartext via email
10:20 rangi            yeah
10:19 kf               i think it gets the passwort before it's encrypted?
10:19 kf               it's sent automatically, no way to send it again
10:19 kf               you can send a notice to the patron after account creation
10:19 kf               not sure about the second part
10:18 kf               rangi: yes, we do
10:16 rangi            we send passwords? are we mental?
10:16 kf               we don't do that with the new account notices I think, because of the passwords in there
10:15 kmkale           thanks kf and rangi
10:15 kf               and sent it out with the others - easy to keep track of what was sent that way
10:15 * kmkale         goes off to study
10:15 kf               make it go into the message queue
10:15 kf               but don't make the cronjob send out the notice
10:15 kf               make a sys pref to turn on/off like account notics
10:14 kf               tell the cronjob to look for a notice with a special code
10:14 kf               yep
10:14 kf               adding to the existing cronjobs might be difficult and they are for other htings
10:14 kmkale           a cronjob nightly checking expiry and the n send out the notice?
10:14 kf               I think you would need to make a new cronjob
10:14 kf               not sure
10:14 kf               each notice is linked to an event
10:13 kf               overdue notices are sent x days after item is due, account notice are sent out after account creation
10:13 kmkale           development on the lines of?
10:13 kf               for what you want to do - not without development
10:13 kf               there is no way to trigger it
10:13 kf               you can't
10:13 kf               no
10:13 kmkale           so I need to adapt the account notice to send out this one?>
10:12 kf               like account notices
10:12 kf               there are different things that will work nice
10:12 kmkale           humm. Back to the question then. What is done / can be done with notices defined with other modules? such as members?
10:12 rangi            we let people create notices because they can create ones for new accounts (Members), or ones of overdue notices, or ones for advance notices etc
10:11 kf               and it will only check for the due dates of checked out books, not for the expiry date of the patron
10:11 kf               and that's your problem - the notices for the triggers are supposed to be overdue notices - they have to be circulation
10:11 rangi            that one only shows circulation
10:11 kf               yes
10:11 kmkale           no. Its under members..
10:10 rangi            is it under circulation?
10:10 kmkale           but in triggers dropdown this notice does not show up. Am I missing something here?
10:09 rangi            and set it up to send as an overdue notice
10:09 rangi            if they went to the triggers
10:09 kmkale           how?
10:09 rangi            well they can send it
10:09 kmkale           humm so why allow them to create notices which can't be sent?
10:09 kmkale           :)
10:08 rangi            until we endow koha with sentience it cant read peoples minds and know what to do with randomly created notices :-)
10:07 rangi            ah well the answer is it cant
10:05 kmkale           was created by the librarian who is now asking how it can be sent
10:03 kmkale           nope
10:03 kmkale           thats the notice content ^^
10:03 rangi            did you just make that?
10:02 pastebot0        "kmkale" at pasted "expiry notice" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2
10:01 kmkale           I have a notice like "members 	EXP 	Members Expiry 	Edit 	Delete" in Home › Tools › Notices
09:59 kmkale           so what happens to the notices I create? They just sit there?
09:59 kmkale           did
09:59 kf               kmkale: check the logs ;)
09:59 kmkale           huh never realized I had got disconnected :(
09:59 kf               and there he is :)
09:58 kf               yep, I have one of those too
09:58 rangi            my libraries just have a report they run that tells them all the people who are due to expire
09:57 rangi            the expiry one
09:57 rangi            hmm that woul be a good feature
09:55 * kf             sighs
09:53 kf               what we have is a message with the login data when a new account is created
09:53 kf               would need develpment if you want to do something like this
09:52 kf               and no way to trigger that - I am sorry
09:52 kf               there is no message in koha for account expiry
09:51 kf               kmkale: which notice do you want to send?
09:47 magnuse          for taking the time to try and help me out - you guys rule!
09:46 magnuse          hdl++
09:46 magnuse          rangi++
09:46 magnuse          sorry folks the missing search was caused by me messing up up the config a couple weeks ago...
09:33 kmkale           does it also handle notices in member module?
09:33 kmkale           It says "overdue_notices.pl - prepare messages to be sent to patrons for overdue items"
09:32 kmkale           overdue_notices.pl?
09:32 kf               will write the notice into the message_queue and it will bes ent out with the other notices when cronjob process... something runs
09:31 kf               or similar
09:31 kf               overdues.pl I thik
09:31 kf               there is a cronjob
09:31 kf               ah
09:31 kf               hm?
09:30 kmkale           Thats why its not showing up in Home › Tools › Notice Triggers. But then how do I get to go out?
09:29 kmkale           Hey kf, had a sudden visitor.  I have defined the notice in the member module for account expiry
09:20 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit
09:20 jenkins_koha     Chris Cormack: Bug 5917 : Fix for xgettext.pl
09:20 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #173: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/173/
09:16 kf               kmkale: I think circulation is right, it will only show up in the list with the right module selected for it
09:15 kf               kmkale: have you chosen the right module for your new notice?
09:11 magnuse          hdl: nope
09:11 kmkale           I have defined a new Notice on Home › Tools › Notices. How do I get this notice sent out by email? It does not appear on Home › Tools › Notice Triggers
09:11 hdl              Do you have some automated upgrades ?
09:10 magnuse          not sure when the problem started, the client reported it today
09:10 magnuse          i havn't touched this installation in quite a while
09:10 hdl              try to connect with yaz-client and see if you can get some results.
09:09 rangi            magnuse: no one has changed anything recently? it just stopped ?
09:08 magnuse          ah
09:08 hdl              the one pointed in koha-conf.xml
09:08 magnuse          which passwordfile would that be?
09:07 hdl              If you have a password which has two :
09:07 magnuse          rangi: i checked the relevant dirs and files and they are all owned by the same user
09:07 hdl              you could also have a problem on your password file
09:06 rangi            the only time i see no error on rebuild but the search still getting 109 is permission problems
09:06 rangi            seems very weird to have no error
09:06 hdl              You may also want to check your zebra-biblios.cfg file in order to see if there has been some edition of that file which may have created the problem
09:04 hdl              otherwise, it is marcxml iirc
09:04 hdl              iso2709 is to be used on mrc files
09:03 hdl              in a yaz-client
09:03 hdl              in order to see which databases are created
09:03 hdl              show
09:03 hdl              f @attr exp1 1=1 databaseinfo
09:03 hdl              format xml
09:03 hdl              base IR-Explain-1
09:03 hdl              You may also use
09:03 magnuse          i'm trying with -k now
09:02 hdl              to commit the update
09:02 hdl              zebraidx -c path/to/zebra-biblios.cfg -d biblios -g iso2709 commit
09:02 hdl              to purge the data
09:02 hdl              zebraidx -c path/to/zebra-biblios.cfg -d biblios -g iso2709 init
09:02 hdl              zebraidx -c path/to/zebra-biblios.cfg -d biblios -g iso2709 update path/to/your/exported_records
09:01 hdl              then use the exported record to index with
09:01 hdl              rebuild with -k
09:01 hdl              try to do it manually
09:00 magnuse          still no luck with -w
09:00 magnuse          sorry, had to take that call
08:48 rangi            sorry
08:47 * magnuse        is on the phone...
08:45 rangi            try with -w
08:45 rangi            hmm maybe try without shadow
08:45 rangi            the last part of the zebraidx is doing a merge and then moving the shadow files over
08:42 magnuse          rangi: all the merge?
08:41 rangi            magnuse: so it does all the merge ?
08:41 jenkins_koha     Starting build 173 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 2 j 23 h ago)
08:40 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6171 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Can't edit items
08:40 jenkins_koha     Frédéric Demians: Bug 6171 Can't edit items
08:40 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_master build #172: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/172/
08:40 magnuse          rebuild_zebra.pl -x -v -b or rebuild_zebra.pl -x -v -b -r did not change anything
08:38 hdl              (the r will recreate the database if some data is exported.)
08:37 hdl              with -x and maybe -r -nosanitize
08:37 hdl              with -v yes.
08:37 rangi            try rebuild_zebra.pl -x -v -b
08:37 magnuse          hdl: would i see that when running rebuild_zebra?
08:37 hdl              it is just a one line... So can be missed.
08:37 rangi            oh i have an idea
08:36 hdl              warn previous transaction doesnot reach commit
08:36 magnuse          hdl: none that i can see
08:36 rangi            an all the files are the owned by the same?
08:36 hdl              magnuse do you have any warnings ?
08:36 magnuse          yup
08:36 rangi            the same as the one running the rebuild?
08:35 rangi            is the user running zebrasrv
08:35 rangi            ok, permissions in the only other thing i can think of
08:35 magnuse          ah, ok
08:35 rangi            rebuild doesnt touch zebrasrv at all
08:35 rangi            no thats right
08:33 magnuse          i run zebra from the command line to see all it's output, including the 109, but when i run rebuild_zebra in another terminal zebra doesn't say anything - that seems a bit weird...
08:31 magnuse          and other installations on the same box with a lot more records are doing fine
08:31 magnuse          this database only has 360 records...
08:31 rangi            (not on disk but in the zebraidx)
08:31 rangi            i wonder if its space
08:30 rangi            hmmm nope i havent seen that
08:27 magnuse          rangi: still 109, no errors that i can see on rebuild
08:24 rangi            did the rebuild throw any errors?
08:24 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5917' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=50dcc32876e7b340a8f7056a59d2d9c2e121458b> / Bug 5917 : Fix for xgettext.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8df93d61bc4160f2d7618ca86319a6cda62b4e94>
08:24 magnuse          lemme check...
08:24 rangi            and still 109?
08:23 magnuse          rangi: nope, still 0 results...
08:23 rangi            magnuse: did that help?
08:19 rangi            i think i got the simple problem :)
08:19 rangi            http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8df93d61bc4160f2d7618ca86319a6cda62b4e94;hp=3fdf627c19306f0d22e6f2341ce738cd2690e4dd
08:17 rangi            pushed
08:14 rangi            will push up the fix now
08:14 rangi            fredericd: fixed the invalid characters
08:08 rangi            try this http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#5
08:08 magnuse          rangi: yep, -b -r -v to be precise
08:07 rangi            you have done a -r ?
08:07 magnuse          rangi: ok, any tips on how to recover from that? i have run rebuild_zebra multiple times without any errors
08:06 rangi            fredericd: right, i wonder if we are double encoding
08:05 rangi            magnuse: i have seen that error if zebraidx was killed while it was building the indexes
08:05 fredericd        bad endoding seems to come from string in French: so from plugin template for example
08:05 magnuse          rangi: nope, /dev/sda1 is at 38% and the others at 0 or 1%
08:05 fredericd        ok
08:04 rangi            right, ill work on the invalid bytes if you want to look at the split over 2 lines problem?
08:04 fredericd        and msgmerge fails
08:04 fredericd        yes, bad characters error message
08:04 fredericd        + for the OPAC the string extraction issues: split a string into 2 msgid
08:03 rangi            fredericd: you get the same error with bad characters?
08:03 fredericd        rangi: yes
08:03 rangi            magnuse: disk full?
08:03 pastebot0        "rangi" at pasted "translate create" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1
08:02 magnuse          argh, why would one of my installations suddenly start to get 0 hits and zebra error 109?
08:01 rangi            fredericd: create seems to work ok for the opac, but dies on the intranet .. do you get the same?
08:00 jenkins_koha     Starting build 172 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 2 j 22 h ago)
08:00 magnuse          thanks kf
08:00 kf               wb magnuse
07:58 rangi            yeah its xgettext.pl
07:56 rangi            or xgettext.pl
07:56 rangi            but i think they are slighly different than in the old system, which is why tmpl_process3.pl is doing the wrong thing with them
07:55 rangi            at least for install
07:55 rangi            i *think* the tokens are being created ok
07:55 rangi            tmpl_process3.pl does stuff with the tokens
07:54 miguel           hi all
07:54 rangi            so TTParser.pm just builds up @tokens
07:53 huginn           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6171 Can't edit items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dfa4127db1d5443c50931e119ce00eaf6808432a>
07:51 fredericd        Yes, I can imagine how fun it is!
07:50 rangi            i had to do that a lot :)
07:50 rangi            man HTML::Parser
07:50 rangi            i think tmpl_process3.pl probably needs a little tweak or 2, i had to tweak it to get the install happy
07:49 rangi            cool :)
07:49 fredericd        I'm on it :)
07:49 rangi            TTParser
07:48 rangi            yep
07:48 fredericd        and he updated the template tokenizer to handle TT?
07:48 rangi            a university student who worked for us over the holidays, he did a huge amount of work on the templating, mostly making the script to automatically convert the templates
07:47 fredericd        who is Christopher Hall?
07:45 rangi            (of course i want both :))
07:44 rangi            but we dont actually need the create for release, just install
07:44 rangi            tomorrow i can look into the create
07:43 rangi            basically i have just been working on getting hte install to work right
07:43 rangi            the old scripts, i have no idea how they work :)
07:43 rangi            which I at least mostly understand :)
07:43 rangi            as the base for parsing the templates
07:43 rangi            but at least now we are using HTML::Parser
07:42 rangi            its a blackbox for everyone
07:42 rangi            and that way people only have to update the stuff that is different between 3.2.x and 3.4
07:42 fredericd        Yes, there are obviously few bugs, the issue beeing that string extraction process is a black box (for me)
07:41 rangi            and then if we have to remove template::toolkit work to release it will work still, and if we dont, we will still be able to install them and then we just have to fix the create/update
07:41 fredericd        Ok, I can try and see how it works
07:40 rangi            and people can start translating
07:40 rangi            whack them in pootle
07:40 rangi            update them, create any new ones you need
07:40 rangi            cp the .po files from a 3.2.x checkout into there
07:39 rangi            so checkout html_template_pro
07:39 rangi            yes
07:38 fredericd        rangi: but on master we have 3.0 .po files. 3.2 are on 3.2 branch.
07:38 rangi            so you can checkout that tag, and then you have all the .tmpl templates and the old translate scripts
07:37 rangi            in the TT work
07:37 rangi            i tagged master before i merged
07:37 rangi            in my mails to koha-devel list
07:37 fredericd        which tag? I don't understand
07:36 rangi            so for now, checkout the tag
07:36 fredericd        yes, translate install works
07:36 rangi            but translate install language works with tt
07:36 rangi            while we look at the tt one
07:35 rangi            create/update all the .po files and then people can at least start translating
07:35 rangi            using the old script, ie checkout the tag
07:34 rangi            so if you want to update them
07:34 rangi            translate install works fine from the ones created with the old one
07:33 fredericd        msgid "The browser table is empty. this feature is not fully set-up. See the <a1>wiki</a> for more information on what it does and how to configure it."
07:33 fredericd        should have produce this:
07:33 fredericd        msgid " for more information on what it does and how to configure it."
07:33 fredericd        msgid "The browser table is empty. this feature is not fully set-up. See the "
07:33 fredericd        produces two entries in .po file:
07:32 fredericd        <div class="warning">The browser table is empty. this feature is not fully set-up. See the <a href="http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Opac_browse_feature">Koha Wiki</a> for more information on what it does and how to configure it.</div>
07:32 fredericd        line 44
07:32 fredericd        example on opac-browser.tt
07:32 fredericd        Last but not least, string extraction has changed since HTML::Template
07:32 fredericd        update fails on 3.2 .po file. msgmerge stops with error.
07:32 fredericd        It's impossible to create a new language.
07:31 fredericd        rangi: TT translation scripts don't work for me.
07:30 rangi            community branch?
07:27 hdl              miguel: miguelxercode feel free to test and signoff on that branch wip/bug5872 (only for IssuingRules edition)... It will allow the circulation work we did and you liked get into the community branch
07:22 rangi            yep thats the one I asked sekjal to have a look at
07:21 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5872 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, christophe.croullebois, ASSIGNED, Enhancements to circulation management
07:21 kf               bug 5872
07:21 hdl              branch
07:21 hdl              wip/bug5872
07:21 hdl              wip/koha-biblibre repository on git.koha-community.org
07:21 hdl              http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-biblibre.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/wip/bug5872
07:21 hdl              you have my work there :
07:20 hdl              yes.
07:20 hdl              Waiting for it to be signed off.
07:20 kf               is there a bug for it?
07:20 hdl              i posted that on a branch.
07:19 kf               hdl: any news on your circ matrix work?
07:18 hdl              hi miguel
07:17 kf               hi rangi, hdl... and all :)
07:16 hdl              hi all
07:16 rangi            hdl I asked sekjal to have a look at the bug
07:16 rangi            hi kf sophie_m clrh_ and hdl
07:15 rangi            and thanks for the signoff magnus_breakfast
07:15 rangi            thanks for the patch fredericd
07:15 clrh_            hi
07:14 sophie_m         hello
07:13 kf               magnuse++
07:13 kf               community++
07:13 kf               hi #koha
07:12 rangi            evening
06:49 matts            hello everyone !
06:46 glernil          good day!
06:43 magnuse          bonjour matts
06:42 kmkale           hi magnuse
06:42 magnuse          hiya kmkale
06:41 kmkale           Namaskar #koha
06:40 cait             now magnuse can sign-off... *runs*
06:40 cait             fredericd++
06:36 magnuse          good
06:36 cait             fortunately I don't have to pass one and fight the temptation
06:35 cait             I will try
06:24 magnuse          don't rob any banks on your way!
06:23 cait             no, only to work, not very far :P
06:23 cait             hehe
06:20 fredericd        run cait, run as far as you can...
06:19 cait             I want to - but have to run - would be happy if you could fix it
06:18 fredericd        cait: I can try to fix it if you don't want to
06:17 * magnuse        would think so
06:17 fredericd        TT issue
06:17 magnuse          biblionumber is missing
06:17 fredericd        the biblionumber is missing, so the biblio record can't be retrieved
06:17 * cait           is confused
06:17 cait             the biblionumber?
06:17 cait             ohr... now
06:16 cait             the itemnumber is missing
06:16 magnuse          versus this in master: additem.pl?op=edititem&itemnumber=20#edititem
06:16 magnuse          3.2.x has this link for editing items: additem.pl?op=edititem&biblionumber=1&itemnumber=2#edititem
06:15 cait             time to get ready for work
06:14 magnuse          hm
06:12 cait             yes :(
06:12 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6171 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Can't edit items
06:12 cait             bug 6171
06:12 magnuse          same error as you?
06:12 cait             ouch again
06:12 magnuse          Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /home/magnus/kohahead/C4/Biblio.pm line 2097?
06:12 cait             I am sending the bug report
06:12 cait             I think if we both can't it's probably a general problem :(
06:11 cait             on master
06:11 cait             magnuse: hm. both fredericd and me can't add or edit items
06:10 fredericd        even modifying an existing item raises the error
06:09 cait             hi AmitG :)
06:09 AmitG            heya cait
06:08 cait             yes
06:08 magnuse          with tt?
06:08 magnuse          guten morgen cait & #koha
06:08 cait             can you do me a favor? try to add and edit an item in a current branch?
06:07 cait             hi magnuse
06:07 fredericd        difficult to say. The error message indicates that the MARC::Record object is undef. But we don't know who call this function...
06:06 * magnuse        looks at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Mysqldump_Library and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Backing_up_Koha and scratches his head
06:05 cait             fredericd: do you have an idea what the problem could be?
06:05 magnuse          \o/
06:05 Brooke_          0/
06:04 cait             I will file a blocker bug with the error message and what Idid - add a new item, can't edit
06:04 cait             I think that too
06:03 cait             yes
06:02 fredericd        In my case, branch is here: so this bug seems unrelated
06:02 cait             rangi: still around?
06:02 cait             the new item I added looks right to me
06:02 cait             the brnach information is missing in both - marcxml and the items table
06:01 cait             this could be our blocker bug
06:01 cait             ouch
06:01 fredericd        same error here when trying to modify an item...
06:00 cait             I will check for the problematic one
06:00 cait             the new one had the correct information
06:00 cait             can you check if you can edit normal items?
06:00 cait             good question
06:00 fredericd        where is the information missing? in 952 field or in items table?
05:59 cait             and I have tried to edit an existing item - but one with missing branch information
05:59 cait             I have added a new item, now want to edit it
05:59 cait             Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Biblio.pm line 2097.
05:57 fredericd        I have one
05:56 cait             someone else with a database on master around?
05:56 cait             and not even a new one
05:56 Brooke_          the cataloguer in your test database needs a spanking.
05:56 cait             and I can't edit one of them
05:56 cait             uh
05:55 cait             only talking to myself, I am a little shocked
05:55 cait             hm, why do a lot of items in my test database have no branch?
05:54 fredericd        So, I'm relieved :)
05:54 cait             fredericd: chris showed me his opac in German last night - I am hopeful the problem with the scripts can be solved :)
05:52 cait             hi fredericd
05:49 fredericd        good morning
05:47 cait             hi Brooke_ :)
05:47 Brooke_          guten tag
05:47 cait             good morning #koha
05:28 huginn           fredericd: The operation succeeded.
05:28 fredericd        @later tell rangi TT translation scripts don't work as they should for me. You have to talk about that.
05:17 fredericd        rangi: did TT translation scripts works for you? They doesn't for me.
04:45 rangi            heh
04:43 Brooke_          don't all talk at once, y'all.
03:36 AmitG            heya chris
03:36 AmitG            heya Brooke_
03:30 * Brooke_        waves to Amit
02:48 * Brooke_        waves to rangi
02:48 rangi            hi Brooke_
02:14 Brooke_          kia ora