Time Nick Message 02:14 Brooke_ kia ora 02:48 rangi hi Brooke_ 02:48 * Brooke_ waves to rangi 03:30 * Brooke_ waves to Amit 03:36 AmitG heya Brooke_ 03:36 AmitG heya chris 04:43 Brooke_ don't all talk at once, y'all. 04:45 rangi heh 05:17 fredericd rangi: did TT translation scripts works for you? They doesn't for me. 05:28 fredericd @later tell rangi TT translation scripts don't work as they should for me. You have to talk about that. 05:28 huginn fredericd: The operation succeeded. 05:47 cait good morning #koha 05:47 Brooke_ guten tag 05:47 cait hi Brooke_ :) 05:49 fredericd good morning 05:52 cait hi fredericd 05:54 cait fredericd: chris showed me his opac in German last night - I am hopeful the problem with the scripts can be solved :) 05:54 fredericd So, I'm relieved :) 05:55 cait hm, why do a lot of items in my test database have no branch? 05:55 cait only talking to myself, I am a little shocked 05:56 cait uh 05:56 cait and I can't edit one of them 05:56 Brooke_ the cataloguer in your test database needs a spanking. 05:56 cait and not even a new one 05:56 cait someone else with a database on master around? 05:57 fredericd I have one 05:59 cait Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Biblio.pm line 2097. 05:59 cait I have added a new item, now want to edit it 05:59 cait and I have tried to edit an existing item - but one with missing branch information 06:00 fredericd where is the information missing? in 952 field or in items table? 06:00 cait good question 06:00 cait can you check if you can edit normal items? 06:00 cait the new one had the correct information 06:00 cait I will check for the problematic one 06:01 fredericd same error here when trying to modify an item... 06:01 cait ouch 06:01 cait this could be our blocker bug 06:02 cait the brnach information is missing in both - marcxml and the items table 06:02 cait the new item I added looks right to me 06:02 cait rangi: still around? 06:02 fredericd In my case, branch is here: so this bug seems unrelated 06:03 cait yes 06:04 cait I think that too 06:04 cait I will file a blocker bug with the error message and what Idid - add a new item, can't edit 06:05 Brooke_ 0/ 06:05 magnuse \o/ 06:05 cait fredericd: do you have an idea what the problem could be? 06:06 * magnuse looks at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Mysqldump_Library and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Backing_up_Koha and scratches his head 06:07 fredericd difficult to say. The error message indicates that the MARC::Record object is undef. But we don't know who call this function... 06:07 cait hi magnuse 06:08 cait can you do me a favor? try to add and edit an item in a current branch? 06:08 magnuse guten morgen cait & #koha 06:08 magnuse with tt? 06:08 cait yes 06:09 AmitG heya cait 06:09 cait hi AmitG :) 06:10 fredericd even modifying an existing item raises the error 06:11 cait magnuse: hm. both fredericd and me can't add or edit items 06:11 cait on master 06:12 cait I think if we both can't it's probably a general problem :( 06:12 cait I am sending the bug report 06:12 magnuse Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /home/magnus/kohahead/C4/Biblio.pm line 2097? 06:12 cait ouch again 06:12 magnuse same error as you? 06:12 cait bug 6171 06:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6171 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Can't edit items 06:12 cait yes :( 06:14 magnuse hm 06:15 cait time to get ready for work 06:16 magnuse 3.2.x has this link for editing items: additem.pl?op=edititem&biblionumber=1&itemnumber=2#edititem 06:16 magnuse versus this in master: additem.pl?op=edititem&itemnumber=20#edititem 06:16 cait the itemnumber is missing 06:17 cait ohr... now 06:17 cait the biblionumber? 06:17 * cait is confused 06:17 fredericd the biblionumber is missing, so the biblio record can't be retrieved 06:17 magnuse biblionumber is missing 06:17 fredericd TT issue 06:17 * magnuse would think so 06:18 fredericd cait: I can try to fix it if you don't want to 06:19 cait I want to - but have to run - would be happy if you could fix it 06:20 fredericd run cait, run as far as you can... 06:23 cait hehe 06:23 cait no, only to work, not very far :P 06:24 magnuse don't rob any banks on your way! 06:35 cait I will try 06:36 cait fortunately I don't have to pass one and fight the temptation 06:36 magnuse good 06:40 cait fredericd++ 06:40 cait now magnuse can sign-off... *runs* 06:41 kmkale Namaskar #koha 06:42 magnuse hiya kmkale 06:42 kmkale hi magnuse 06:43 magnuse bonjour matts 06:46 glernil good day! 06:49 matts hello everyone ! 07:12 rangi evening 07:13 kf hi #koha 07:13 kf community++ 07:13 kf magnuse++ 07:14 sophie_m hello 07:15 clrh_ hi 07:15 rangi thanks for the patch fredericd 07:15 rangi and thanks for the signoff magnus_breakfast 07:16 rangi hi kf sophie_m clrh_ and hdl 07:16 rangi hdl I asked sekjal to have a look at the bug 07:16 hdl hi all 07:17 kf hi rangi, hdl... and all :) 07:18 hdl hi miguel 07:19 kf hdl: any news on your circ matrix work? 07:20 hdl i posted that on a branch. 07:20 kf is there a bug for it? 07:20 hdl Waiting for it to be signed off. 07:20 hdl yes. 07:21 hdl you have my work there : 07:21 hdl http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-biblibre.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/wip/bug5872 07:21 hdl wip/koha-biblibre repository on git.koha-community.org 07:21 hdl wip/bug5872 07:21 hdl branch 07:21 kf bug 5872 07:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5872 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, christophe.croullebois, ASSIGNED, Enhancements to circulation management 07:22 rangi yep thats the one I asked sekjal to have a look at 07:27 hdl miguel: miguelxercode feel free to test and signoff on that branch wip/bug5872 (only for IssuingRules edition)... It will allow the circulation work we did and you liked get into the community branch 07:30 rangi community branch? 07:31 fredericd rangi: TT translation scripts don't work for me. 07:32 fredericd It's impossible to create a new language. 07:32 fredericd update fails on 3.2 .po file. msgmerge stops with error. 07:32 fredericd Last but not least, string extraction has changed since HTML::Template 07:32 fredericd example on opac-browser.tt 07:32 fredericd line 44 07:32 fredericd <div class="warning">The browser table is empty. this feature is not fully set-up. See the <a href="http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Opac_browse_feature">Koha Wiki</a> for more information on what it does and how to configure it.</div> 07:33 fredericd produces two entries in .po file: 07:33 fredericd msgid "The browser table is empty. this feature is not fully set-up. See the " 07:33 fredericd msgid " for more information on what it does and how to configure it." 07:33 fredericd should have produce this: 07:33 fredericd msgid "The browser table is empty. this feature is not fully set-up. See the <a1>wiki</a> for more information on what it does and how to configure it." 07:34 rangi translate install works fine from the ones created with the old one 07:34 rangi so if you want to update them 07:35 rangi using the old script, ie checkout the tag 07:35 rangi create/update all the .po files and then people can at least start translating 07:36 rangi while we look at the tt one 07:36 rangi but translate install language works with tt 07:36 fredericd yes, translate install works 07:36 rangi so for now, checkout the tag 07:37 fredericd which tag? I don't understand 07:37 rangi in my mails to koha-devel list 07:37 rangi i tagged master before i merged 07:37 rangi in the TT work 07:38 rangi so you can checkout that tag, and then you have all the .tmpl templates and the old translate scripts 07:38 fredericd rangi: but on master we have 3.0 .po files. 3.2 are on 3.2 branch. 07:39 rangi yes 07:39 rangi so checkout html_template_pro 07:40 rangi cp the .po files from a 3.2.x checkout into there 07:40 rangi update them, create any new ones you need 07:40 rangi whack them in pootle 07:40 rangi and people can start translating 07:41 fredericd Ok, I can try and see how it works 07:41 rangi and then if we have to remove template::toolkit work to release it will work still, and if we dont, we will still be able to install them and then we just have to fix the create/update 07:42 fredericd Yes, there are obviously few bugs, the issue beeing that string extraction process is a black box (for me) 07:42 rangi and that way people only have to update the stuff that is different between 3.2.x and 3.4 07:42 rangi its a blackbox for everyone 07:43 rangi but at least now we are using HTML::Parser 07:43 rangi as the base for parsing the templates 07:43 rangi which I at least mostly understand :) 07:43 rangi the old scripts, i have no idea how they work :) 07:43 rangi basically i have just been working on getting hte install to work right 07:44 rangi tomorrow i can look into the create 07:44 rangi but we dont actually need the create for release, just install 07:45 rangi (of course i want both :)) 07:47 fredericd who is Christopher Hall? 07:48 rangi a university student who worked for us over the holidays, he did a huge amount of work on the templating, mostly making the script to automatically convert the templates 07:48 fredericd and he updated the template tokenizer to handle TT? 07:48 rangi yep 07:49 rangi TTParser 07:49 fredericd I'm on it :) 07:49 rangi cool :) 07:50 rangi i think tmpl_process3.pl probably needs a little tweak or 2, i had to tweak it to get the install happy 07:50 rangi man HTML::Parser 07:50 rangi i had to do that a lot :) 07:51 fredericd Yes, I can imagine how fun it is! 07:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6171 Can't edit items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dfa4127db1d5443c50931e119ce00eaf6808432a> 07:54 rangi so TTParser.pm just builds up @tokens 07:54 miguel hi all 07:55 rangi tmpl_process3.pl does stuff with the tokens 07:55 rangi i *think* the tokens are being created ok 07:55 rangi at least for install 07:56 rangi but i think they are slighly different than in the old system, which is why tmpl_process3.pl is doing the wrong thing with them 07:56 rangi or xgettext.pl 07:58 rangi yeah its xgettext.pl 08:00 kf wb magnuse 08:00 magnuse thanks kf 08:00 jenkins_koha Starting build 172 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 2 j 22 h ago) 08:01 rangi fredericd: create seems to work ok for the opac, but dies on the intranet .. do you get the same? 08:02 magnuse argh, why would one of my installations suddenly start to get 0 hits and zebra error 109? 08:03 pastebot0 "rangi" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "translate create" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1 08:03 rangi magnuse: disk full? 08:03 fredericd rangi: yes 08:03 rangi fredericd: you get the same error with bad characters? 08:04 fredericd + for the OPAC the string extraction issues: split a string into 2 msgid 08:04 fredericd yes, bad characters error message 08:04 fredericd and msgmerge fails 08:04 rangi right, ill work on the invalid bytes if you want to look at the split over 2 lines problem? 08:05 fredericd ok 08:05 magnuse rangi: nope, /dev/sda1 is at 38% and the others at 0 or 1% 08:05 fredericd bad endoding seems to come from string in French: so from plugin template for example 08:05 rangi magnuse: i have seen that error if zebraidx was killed while it was building the indexes 08:06 rangi fredericd: right, i wonder if we are double encoding 08:07 magnuse rangi: ok, any tips on how to recover from that? i have run rebuild_zebra multiple times without any errors 08:07 rangi you have done a -r ? 08:08 magnuse rangi: yep, -b -r -v to be precise 08:08 rangi try this http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#5 08:14 rangi fredericd: fixed the invalid characters 08:14 rangi will push up the fix now 08:17 rangi pushed 08:19 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8df93d61bc4160f2d7618ca86319a6cda62b4e94;hp=3fdf627c19306f0d22e6f2341ce738cd2690e4dd 08:19 rangi i think i got the simple problem :) 08:23 rangi magnuse: did that help? 08:23 magnuse rangi: nope, still 0 results... 08:24 rangi and still 109? 08:24 magnuse lemme check... 08:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5917' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=50dcc32876e7b340a8f7056a59d2d9c2e121458b> / Bug 5917 : Fix for xgettext.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8df93d61bc4160f2d7618ca86319a6cda62b4e94> 08:24 rangi did the rebuild throw any errors? 08:27 magnuse rangi: still 109, no errors that i can see on rebuild 08:30 rangi hmmm nope i havent seen that 08:31 rangi i wonder if its space 08:31 rangi (not on disk but in the zebraidx) 08:31 magnuse this database only has 360 records... 08:31 magnuse and other installations on the same box with a lot more records are doing fine 08:33 magnuse i run zebra from the command line to see all it's output, including the 109, but when i run rebuild_zebra in another terminal zebra doesn't say anything - that seems a bit weird... 08:35 rangi no thats right 08:35 rangi rebuild doesnt touch zebrasrv at all 08:35 magnuse ah, ok 08:35 rangi ok, permissions in the only other thing i can think of 08:35 rangi is the user running zebrasrv 08:36 rangi the same as the one running the rebuild? 08:36 magnuse yup 08:36 hdl magnuse do you have any warnings ? 08:36 rangi an all the files are the owned by the same? 08:36 magnuse hdl: none that i can see 08:36 hdl warn previous transaction doesnot reach commit 08:37 rangi oh i have an idea 08:37 hdl it is just a one line... So can be missed. 08:37 magnuse hdl: would i see that when running rebuild_zebra? 08:37 rangi try rebuild_zebra.pl -x -v -b 08:37 hdl with -v yes. 08:37 hdl with -x and maybe -r -nosanitize 08:38 hdl (the r will recreate the database if some data is exported.) 08:40 magnuse rebuild_zebra.pl -x -v -b or rebuild_zebra.pl -x -v -b -r did not change anything 08:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #172: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/172/ 08:40 jenkins_koha Frédéric Demians: Bug 6171 Can't edit items 08:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6171 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Can't edit items 08:41 jenkins_koha Starting build 173 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 2 j 23 h ago) 08:41 rangi magnuse: so it does all the merge ? 08:42 magnuse rangi: all the merge? 08:45 rangi the last part of the zebraidx is doing a merge and then moving the shadow files over 08:45 rangi hmm maybe try without shadow 08:45 rangi try with -w 08:47 * magnuse is on the phone... 08:48 rangi sorry 09:00 magnuse sorry, had to take that call 09:00 magnuse still no luck with -w 09:01 hdl try to do it manually 09:01 hdl rebuild with -k 09:01 hdl then use the exported record to index with 09:02 hdl zebraidx -c path/to/zebra-biblios.cfg -d biblios -g iso2709 update path/to/your/exported_records 09:02 hdl zebraidx -c path/to/zebra-biblios.cfg -d biblios -g iso2709 init 09:02 hdl to purge the data 09:02 hdl zebraidx -c path/to/zebra-biblios.cfg -d biblios -g iso2709 commit 09:02 hdl to commit the update 09:03 magnuse i'm trying with -k now 09:03 hdl You may also use 09:03 hdl base IR-Explain-1 09:03 hdl format xml 09:03 hdl f @attr exp1 1=1 databaseinfo 09:03 hdl show 09:03 hdl in order to see which databases are created 09:03 hdl in a yaz-client 09:04 hdl iso2709 is to be used on mrc files 09:04 hdl otherwise, it is marcxml iirc 09:06 hdl You may also want to check your zebra-biblios.cfg file in order to see if there has been some edition of that file which may have created the problem 09:06 rangi seems very weird to have no error 09:06 rangi the only time i see no error on rebuild but the search still getting 109 is permission problems 09:07 hdl you could also have a problem on your password file 09:07 magnuse rangi: i checked the relevant dirs and files and they are all owned by the same user 09:07 hdl If you have a password which has two : 09:08 magnuse which passwordfile would that be? 09:08 hdl the one pointed in koha-conf.xml 09:08 magnuse ah 09:09 rangi magnuse: no one has changed anything recently? it just stopped ? 09:10 hdl try to connect with yaz-client and see if you can get some results. 09:10 magnuse i havn't touched this installation in quite a while 09:10 magnuse not sure when the problem started, the client reported it today 09:11 hdl Do you have some automated upgrades ? 09:11 kmkale I have defined a new Notice on Home › Tools › Notices. How do I get this notice sent out by email? It does not appear on Home › Tools › Notice Triggers 09:11 magnuse hdl: nope 09:15 kf kmkale: have you chosen the right module for your new notice? 09:16 kf kmkale: I think circulation is right, it will only show up in the list with the right module selected for it 09:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #173: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/173/ 09:20 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5917 : Fix for xgettext.pl 09:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit 09:29 kmkale Hey kf, had a sudden visitor. I have defined the notice in the member module for account expiry 09:30 kmkale Thats why its not showing up in Home › Tools › Notice Triggers. But then how do I get to go out? 09:31 kf hm? 09:31 kf ah 09:31 kf there is a cronjob 09:31 kf overdues.pl I thik 09:31 kf or similar 09:32 kf will write the notice into the message_queue and it will bes ent out with the other notices when cronjob process... something runs 09:32 kmkale overdue_notices.pl? 09:33 kmkale It says "overdue_notices.pl - prepare messages to be sent to patrons for overdue items" 09:33 kmkale does it also handle notices in member module? 09:46 magnuse sorry folks the missing search was caused by me messing up up the config a couple weeks ago... 09:46 magnuse rangi++ 09:46 magnuse hdl++ 09:47 magnuse for taking the time to try and help me out - you guys rule! 09:51 kf kmkale: which notice do you want to send? 09:52 kf there is no message in koha for account expiry 09:52 kf and no way to trigger that - I am sorry 09:53 kf would need develpment if you want to do something like this 09:53 kf what we have is a message with the login data when a new account is created 09:55 * kf sighs 09:57 rangi hmm that woul be a good feature 09:57 rangi the expiry one 09:58 rangi my libraries just have a report they run that tells them all the people who are due to expire 09:58 kf yep, I have one of those too 09:59 kf and there he is :) 09:59 kmkale huh never realized I had got disconnected :( 09:59 kf kmkale: check the logs ;) 09:59 kmkale did 09:59 kmkale so what happens to the notices I create? They just sit there? 10:01 kmkale I have a notice like "members EXP Members Expiry Edit Delete" in Home › Tools › Notices 10:02 pastebot0 "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "expiry notice" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2 10:03 rangi did you just make that? 10:03 kmkale thats the notice content ^^ 10:03 kmkale nope 10:05 kmkale was created by the librarian who is now asking how it can be sent 10:07 rangi ah well the answer is it cant 10:08 rangi until we endow koha with sentience it cant read peoples minds and know what to do with randomly created notices :-) 10:09 kmkale :) 10:09 kmkale humm so why allow them to create notices which can't be sent? 10:09 rangi well they can send it 10:09 kmkale how? 10:09 rangi if they went to the triggers 10:09 rangi and set it up to send as an overdue notice 10:10 kmkale but in triggers dropdown this notice does not show up. Am I missing something here? 10:10 rangi is it under circulation? 10:11 kmkale no. Its under members.. 10:11 kf yes 10:11 rangi that one only shows circulation 10:11 kf and that's your problem - the notices for the triggers are supposed to be overdue notices - they have to be circulation 10:11 kf and it will only check for the due dates of checked out books, not for the expiry date of the patron 10:12 rangi we let people create notices because they can create ones for new accounts (Members), or ones of overdue notices, or ones for advance notices etc 10:12 kmkale humm. Back to the question then. What is done / can be done with notices defined with other modules? such as members? 10:12 kf there are different things that will work nice 10:12 kf like account notices 10:13 kmkale so I need to adapt the account notice to send out this one?> 10:13 kf no 10:13 kf you can't 10:13 kf there is no way to trigger it 10:13 kf for what you want to do - not without development 10:13 kmkale development on the lines of? 10:13 kf overdue notices are sent x days after item is due, account notice are sent out after account creation 10:14 kf each notice is linked to an event 10:14 kf not sure 10:14 kf I think you would need to make a new cronjob 10:14 kmkale a cronjob nightly checking expiry and the n send out the notice? 10:14 kf adding to the existing cronjobs might be difficult and they are for other htings 10:14 kf yep 10:14 kf tell the cronjob to look for a notice with a special code 10:15 kf make a sys pref to turn on/off like account notics 10:15 kf but don't make the cronjob send out the notice 10:15 kf make it go into the message queue 10:15 * kmkale goes off to study 10:15 kf and sent it out with the others - easy to keep track of what was sent that way 10:15 kmkale thanks kf and rangi 10:16 kf we don't do that with the new account notices I think, because of the passwords in there 10:16 rangi we send passwords? are we mental? 10:18 kf rangi: yes, we do 10:19 kf not sure about the second part 10:19 kf you can send a notice to the patron after account creation 10:19 kf it's sent automatically, no way to send it again 10:19 kf i think it gets the passwort before it's encrypted? 10:20 rangi yeah 10:20 rangi i personally hate sending passwords in cleartext via email 10:21 * rangi makes a note to break that feature at some point and replace it with one that sends a one off token 10:21 rangi :) 10:22 kf hehe 10:22 kf I would like that 10:22 kf here is your one time passwort, go to the opac and be forced to change it 10:22 kmkale yeh, the same person also requested usernames and clear text passwoprds of all patrons :( 10:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6169: Inventory tool fails when ignoreissued set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f08f67d3f1fb1b7ca9406fbb395c0c68312d0d49> 10:23 rangi yep, thats right kf 10:24 rangi and yeah, if we ever store passwords in cleartext, ill resign as RM :) 10:24 kf 18.000! 10:24 * kf cries 10:25 rangi ? 10:25 kf translate.koha-community.org 10:25 kf http://translate.koha-community.org/de/34/ 10:25 rangi fredericd: can you give me rights to en-NZ 10:26 rangi kf: better than 47,000 10:26 kf hmpf! 10:26 kf only a little better 10:27 kf ... sorry, I am still shocked 10:27 kf I kept it uptodate for all the 3.2.x releases and didn't expect that many 10:27 rangi 55,000 in staff client 10:27 rangi lots of new features in 3.4 10:27 rangi and lots of moving things around = lots of changes 10:27 * kf suddendly doesn't like new features ;) 10:27 fredericd rangi: done 10:28 rangi for 3.6 i think we will try get ppl translating as we go, at least for those that want to, see how it goes 10:28 rangi fredericd: fantastic thanks 10:28 rangi fredericd: ill rename the files when i do the release, but they are fine as 30020000 for now 10:29 fredericd For 3.6, I'd like to rewrite from scratch the TT parsing machinery... 10:29 jenkins_koha Starting build 174 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 3 j 1 h ago) 10:30 rangi TTParser.pm works pretty well 10:30 rangi and is only 150 lines 10:31 rangi but yes, rewritting all the rest would be good 10:31 rangi its long and overcomplicated 10:33 rangi and there are lots of parsers for html/js/xml 10:33 rangi i think we are better off using them rather than writing our own 10:37 conan hi everyone 10:38 conan tcohen: hey! hello there, did you receive my email about suspension modifications? 10:41 rangi fredericd++ 10:45 kf fredericd++ 10:54 magnuse is there a date for when the translations have to be finished? 10:54 kf hm, around 20th probably 10:54 rangi yeah around then 10:54 kf ah no 10:54 rangi and they dont have to be finished 10:54 kf not about that, but I realised we will still have the annoying tabs messaging and messages in 3.4 10:54 kf and I hoped they would go away 10:55 kf hmpf. 10:55 kf another thing for my 3.4.x/3.6 wish list 10:56 magnuse rangi: yeah, i was thinkng of the date when it's too late to get them into 3.4 10:56 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6162] name missing on reading history in opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6162> 10:57 rangi ill probably grab them all from pootle arond the 20th 10:57 rangi of course they can keep getting translated 10:57 rangi after that 10:58 rangi for 3.4.1 .. and for people to download and apply before 3.4.1 if they like 10:58 magnuse nods 11:02 magnuse and the proper way to get write access to pootle is to send an introduction to koha-translate? 11:03 * magnuse is writing an email to the norwegian koha list, trying to inspire people to help with translation... 11:07 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6126] Slip print doesn't work on Webkit based browsers <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6126> 11:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #174: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/174/ 11:09 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 6169: Inventory tool fails when ignoreissued set 11:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6169 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Inventory tool fails when ignoreissued set 11:14 rangi @later tell tcohen if you can rebase the patch for bug 5166 on new/enh/bug_5166 it will make it into 3.4.0 11:14 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 11:18 rangi fredericd: yeah, i dont think we need the version number in the po files 11:20 rangi ok, time for sleep 11:20 rangi have a good day europe 11:21 rangi tcohen++ # for the patch rebased for tt 11:29 hdl fredericd: how did the update for translation with the sent po files went ? 11:30 magnuse o/ 11:30 druthb o/ 11:30 druthb hi, magnuse. :) 11:34 hdl anyone : is there a syntax highlighter for tt in vim 11:34 hdl ? 11:42 magnuse hiya druthb 11:44 jcamins Good morning, #koha 11:44 magnuse good morning jcamins 11:44 hdl hi jcamins 11:45 magnuse hdl i never used it, but there may be something here: https://github.com/petdance/vim-perl/blob/master/syntax/tt2.vim 11:51 hdl magnuse: saw that. 11:51 hdl it depends on vim-perl. Will have to take time for that. 11:55 magnuse ah, keep us posted if you figure out something clever? 11:57 hdl will try 12:13 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6103] Many MARC21 fields not searched with CCL indexes due to misconfiguration <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6103> 12:25 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6152] Authority-zebra-indexdefs.xsl should indicate it's automatically generated <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6152> 12:31 JesseM Morning #Koha 12:31 kf hi JesseM 12:32 JesseM Hi kf ! 12:33 hdl hi JesseM 12:33 JesseM hi hdl 12:36 tcohen hi #koha 12:36 jcamins Hi tcohen. 12:36 jcamins tcohen: rangi wanted to remind you to put bug numbers in your patches. 12:37 tcohen jcamins: oops, which one i missed? 12:38 jcamins tcohen: I don't remember. 12:39 jcamins Actually, I don't think rangi said at all. 12:39 tcohen jcamins: ok, perhaps i'm doing it the wrong way 12:39 tcohen could you please look at a patch I sent today and tell if its ok? 12:39 tcohen http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=3891 12:39 jcamins I was going to sign off on it, in fact. :) 12:40 jcamins Oh, I see the problem! 12:40 jcamins If you put the Bug number in square brackets, it disappears when rangi applies it. 12:40 jcamins I'll fix it when I sign off. 12:40 tcohen ok, so I have to ommit the bug number 12:41 tcohen smth like: Bug 6126 - tt - Slip print doesn't work on Webkit based browsers 12:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6126 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Slip print doesn't work on Webkit based browsers 12:41 jcamins Exactly. 12:41 jcamins But I can fix it for you here. 12:41 tcohen (s/bug number/brackets in the bug number/) 12:41 tcohen thanks jcamins, I thought I was doing it right 12:41 jcamins Did you squash the two patches into one? 12:42 tcohen yes 12:42 jcamins Okay, sounds good. :) 12:43 tcohen i sent two patches, thou 12:43 tcohen one for old_templates, and one for master 12:43 tcohen just in case anyone thinks it should be included in 3.2.7 12:44 jcamins I'm signing off on the TT one. 12:44 jcamins I already signed off on the other. 12:46 tcohen is there a way to make bugzilla have bug status per branch? 12:46 jcamins All signed off. 12:46 jcamins What do you mean? 12:46 jcamins Like koha-community.org/get-involved/ 12:46 tcohen patch for master -> signed-off 12:46 tcohen patch fr rel_3.2 -> needs sign-off 12:46 jcamins Ah. No. 12:47 tcohen now that cherry-picking will be harder maybe we need smething like that 12:47 jcamins And, actually, both could be considered signed off, since the first two patches worked fine for 3.2. 12:48 tcohen I understand, but a busy RM could not read it right 12:48 tcohen anyway, bakc to work! 12:48 jcamins True. 12:48 tcohen thanks jcamins 12:48 jcamins You're welcome. 13:00 jcamins hdl: around? 13:00 hdl yes 13:01 jcamins I have a question for you about the way you implemented extended patron attributes. 13:02 hdl Have I implemented patron attributes ? 13:02 jcamins Well, not you personally. 13:02 jcamins BibLibre. 13:02 jcamins But I figure you're the BibLibran around at the moment so I'll ask you. ;) 13:03 jcamins This is an easy question. :) 13:03 hdl well it is mainly LL who added that... ;) 13:03 hdl But ok ask your question 13:03 jcamins Commit 0ee0cc18b314d0123d8436a798bb02c5c1448494 13:03 jcamins By Stéphane Delaune. :) 13:04 jcamins Anyway, on your systems is it possible to use the Library and Category dropdowns along with entering a name? 13:04 jcamins For example, if I wanted to find all the patrons with the surname "Smith" at the "Test" library, I should be able to type "smith" in the patron search box and choose "Test" from the library dropdown. 13:05 jcamins What this does on my system is it gives a list of every single patron at the Teset library, *and* every patron whose name matches "smith". 13:05 jcamins I'm wondering if a patch from BibLibre that fixes this was missed. 13:07 hdl jcamins: I think that it was a quick fix... But taht this would need some more. 13:07 hdl work 13:07 jcamins Hm. That's too bad. The problem is that SQLHelper is... confusing. 13:08 hdl Well I may help. 13:08 hdl I wrote that... and tried to make it so that it can be debugged. 13:09 hdl DEBUG=1 shows you how the SQL built 13:09 hdl and the passed arguments 13:09 hdl I reckon though that it is not really as user friendly as SQL::Abstract or a true ORM 13:10 jcamins Hm. 13:11 jcamins Actually, patron search is entirely broken with the template change. 13:13 hdl sorry to hear that. 13:13 wizzyrea >.< 13:14 * jcamins too 13:14 hdl In fact, the search is expecting a hash ref or an array ref or a string 13:15 hdl {surname=>"a"} 13:15 hdl will search surname as a 13:17 * chris_n lowers his opinion of FF one notch >:-( 13:17 wizzyrea !! 13:17 wizzyrea it's a rare chris_n sighting! 13:17 * wizzyrea waves 13:18 * chris_n waves in the general direction of kansas and wizzyrea 13:18 wizzyrea how has firefox provoked your ire? 13:18 chris_n trying to keep my nose above the water 13:18 chris_n firefox seems to be getting worse at handling heavy java apps 13:19 oleonard Java? 13:19 wizzyrea hrmph. I tried ff4 a couple of weeks ago and fled wailing back into chrome's loving, fast arms 13:19 chris_n I tend to have multiple gmail tabs open along with several other sites heavy in JS (sorry) 13:19 chris_n and FF obliges me by crashing several times per day :P 13:19 chris_n the "gray" screen of death 13:19 gmcharlt chris_n: yeah, I've had the same experience with FF4 13:20 gmcharlt very disappointing 13:20 * oleonard hasn't upgraded to FF4 yet 13:20 * chris_n is running namoroka 13:20 wizzyrea dont >.> 13:20 jcamins oleonard: I was mistaken about the patron search being broken before the template change. 13:20 jcamins It's doubly-broken now. 13:20 oleonard Super secret double-broken. 13:20 chris_n doubly-broken-- 13:20 wizzyrea doubly-broken-- 13:22 * chris_n takes a deep breath and slips back into the depths of his bottomless work buffer 13:23 jcamins Unknown column 'surnamecomma0' in 'order clause' 13:23 chris_n ouch 13:23 * wizzyrea gives chris_n a scuba tank 13:23 wizzyrea "take this, it's dangerous to go alone" 13:24 chris_n lol :) 13:24 wizzyrea :D 13:29 magnus_breakfast wizzyrea: not sure i understand the need for both http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Backing_up_Koha and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Mysqldump_Library ? 13:29 kf jcamins: ah 13:29 kf that can be fixed easily 13:29 kf actually I had that on the wiki page for template toolkit testing as a bug 13:30 magnus_breakfast famous last words: "that can be fixed easily" ;-) 13:30 jcamins kf: oh, really? 13:30 jcamins Yay! 13:30 jcamins kf++ # for fixing the bug 13:30 oleonard Right up there with "trivial to implement" 13:31 kf ah 13:31 jcamins Why's it crossed out? 13:31 kf kf-- 13:31 huginn kf: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. 13:31 jcamins It still doesn't work? 13:31 kf for only reporting 13:31 jcamins *. 13:31 kf it was fixed 13:31 jcamins Not in Master. 13:31 kf but I suspect not all things that chris hall fixed are in master now 13:31 jcamins Ah. 13:32 wizzyrea magnus_breakfast: my reason is that I didn't want to delete your page, but it wasn't clear in the mysqldump page that *this is how you back up koha* 13:32 wizzyrea I ran out of time to make the content reflect that change yesterday 13:33 wizzyrea because there was a conspicuously missing gap in the howtos (and it's a commonly asked question) "how do I back this thing up" 13:35 magnuse good point 13:36 magnuse i'll make a redirect from Mysqldump... to that new page 13:37 kf jcamins: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=3fb834ec936a5bef31d0e1104bbf03e3341850be 13:37 magnuse sadly, i can't remove the categories from the old page, since the category plugin is messed up 13:38 wizzyrea oh hrmph. 13:39 wizzyrea I suppose we could delete one or the other and rename if it is bothersome. I like the idea of a mysqldump library, they could be distinct if necessary 13:40 jcamins kf: any idea why that wasn't merged? 13:42 kf we will have to ask rangi abou it 13:46 kmkale kf bug 6173 13:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6173 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Cronjob to send account expiry notices 13:48 kf see it - very cool! :) 13:48 kmkale not so cool. Just a hack 13:48 kf but a fast hack 13:49 kf does it work for your library? 13:49 kmkale yup 13:50 jcamins kf: how did you find that patch? 13:58 kf I knew that I had tested using the template_test branch from the catalyst repo 13:58 kf so i just browsed around a little 13:58 jcamins Ah. 14:00 hdl jcamins: was the search broken before the template change ? 14:05 magnuse wizzyrea: i made Mysqldump Library redirect to Backing up Koha, for now. we can make them distinct if and when we have the content for it 14:05 wizzyrea Yay! Your wiki skills far outpace mine, sir. :) 14:08 conan I just did a fresh install from master and stomped into bug 5893, which is marked resolved. Is that ok? 14:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5893 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Duplicate entry 'AuthoritiesLog' in sysprefs.sql 14:09 jcamins hdl: if you choose a library or category from the dropdowns, you were getting all results from that library or category, no matter what search you specified. 14:11 magnuse wizzyrea: it's as simple as: #REDIRECT [[Name of the other page]] 14:11 kf conan: hm, probably not 14:11 kf conan: have you installed with english sample files? 14:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6170] 'More options' in advanced search broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6170> 14:12 conan kf: yes, this is a test install, so I added all the samples I could grab 14:13 conan kf: however I might be making a git-use mistake here, if the bug shows as solved, does it mean it's already in master branch? 14:14 kf it should 14:15 kf hm. 14:15 conan then somehow the bug reapeared, should I reopen the bug? or do we check it on another fresh install somewhere else? 14:16 conan *reappeared 14:16 kf I have checked the files 14:17 kf are you sure you are on head? 14:17 kf hm master I mean 14:18 conan let me re-check 14:20 conan kf: I did this: git checkout -b conan.master master 14:21 kf hm 14:21 kmkale bye all. good night 14:21 kf hm. w 14:21 conan and now I'm in conan.master 14:21 kf what's the last commit git log does show you? 14:21 conan d057f6574356bb0f5ecf5a4aaa92455a87c99395 14:23 kf hm, commit message? 14:23 jcamins That's almost a month old. 14:23 kf jcamins: how did you find out? :) 14:23 conan Bug 5880 : C4/Koha.pm : adding two functions GetAutorisedValueByCode and GetKohaImageurlFromAuthorisedValues 14:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5880 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, C4/Koha.pm : adding two functions GetAutorisedValueByCode and GetKohaImageurlFromAuthorisedValues 14:24 conan jcamins: yup, that's the strange thing 14:24 jcamins git log ${COMMITID}..kc/master 14:24 kf thx :) 14:24 jcamins conan: you need to update your repository. git pull 14:25 wizzyrea speaking of updating 14:25 wizzyrea what's the best way to do it 14:25 conan jcamins: I did it this morning... 14:25 conan oh wait... 14:25 wizzyrea (so I can explicitly document that in the git info) 14:26 conan jcamins: if I pull when standing on another branch, it pulls everything anyway, right? 14:28 jcamins conan: only if you're tracking origin/master 14:28 conan I guess no: 14:28 conan $ git checkout master 14:28 conan Switched to branch 'master' 14:28 conan Your branch is behind 'origin/master' by 624 commits, and can be fast-forwarded 14:28 conan I'm a moron, sorry 14:28 wizzyrea nah, git's confusing :) 14:29 oleonard confusingly awesome. 14:29 wizzyrea that too 14:29 oleonard awesomely confusing. 14:29 wizzyrea and that 14:29 wizzyrea oleonard: your re-done search to hold? Big hit. 14:29 wizzyrea :) 14:29 oleonard Yay! 14:30 oleonard Still problems with the timeout? 14:30 wizzyrea not that I'm aware of 14:30 wizzyrea we went live on koha and the number of weird issues has gone WAY down. 14:31 wizzyrea there are still occasional bugs and gotchas but a lot fewer than before. 14:31 kf :) 14:32 conan jcamins: is this the line: git checkout -b conan.master origin/master 14:32 conan ? 14:32 conan to track master I mean 14:35 jcamins conan: yep. 14:35 fredericd hdl: French .po files loaded on community site are the last ones. 14:35 jcamins What I usually do is have every branch directly track master. 14:36 hdl fredericd: what would be the best practise for in perl script strings translatability ? 14:37 wizzyrea ... how did I nver see the template-readme 14:37 wizzyrea before now 14:37 clrh_ I have a question about translation in koha: template is ok but I would like to translation strings into perl module (logs, mails content or others) and for the moment I have no idea to do it - did you ever think about it? fredericd or tcohen maybe? 14:37 jcamins_ Template readme? 14:37 wizzyrea templates.readme in koha-tmpl 14:37 hdl not in templates. 14:37 hdl In perl scripts. 14:38 hdl for instance, in C4::Accounts 14:38 conan jcamins: you mean for other versions? like this?: git checkout -b conan.master v3.02.06/master 14:38 oleonard wizzyrea: The first thing I see is "CVS," which means it's a wee bit out of date ;) 14:38 wizzyrea even so, I never noticed it before 14:38 hdl and in sql files... And in a opac-userupdate.pl 14:38 hdl and so on. 14:38 jcamins_ conan: no, I mean git checkout -b bug_whatever kc/master 14:38 jcamins_ Rather than git checkout -b conan.master kc/master 14:39 jcamins_ git checkout -b bug_whatever conan.master 14:40 kf hdl: you want to have strings for transtlation in the perl scrips? 14:40 hdl fredericd: 3.4 for french is talking TMPL_VAR... Looks odd. 14:40 kf this sounds not good to me 14:40 conan jcamins_: thanks 14:40 hdl kf I don't want to. 14:40 hdl I am asking for best practises. 14:40 kf ah 14:40 fredericd hdl: For the middle term, a string 'extracter' per file type would be the solution... 14:40 hdl What are the best tools. 14:41 hdl And what should we do with perl script which has some strings to translate embedded. 14:41 kf get them into the templates I think 14:41 clrh_ kf example: mail content 14:41 kf make it a notice in the notices system would be best 14:42 kf talking about the address change thing 14:42 kf ? 14:42 kf because that is really ugly 14:43 kf clrh_: I would love to see every notice in the notices system and using message_queue table, so you can make changes to the text and track what was sent 14:43 fredericd from my reccent reading on the subject, I've a 'kind' of consensus on using Locale::TextDomain module 14:43 fredericd (for Perl script) 14:46 kf clrh_: hope that makes sense :) 14:47 adnc did you know this: http://kutuphane.tbmm.gov.tr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl this is the turkish parliament using koha 14:55 clrh_ thanks fredericd kf 14:57 jcamins_ Does DelBiblio work? 14:57 jcamins_ Or is it deprecated in favor of something else? 14:57 hdl It should. 14:57 rhcl interesting link 15:00 hdl adnc: looks pretty much like http://library.neu.edu.tr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl 15:00 adnc hdl, thats the same, they belong together 15:00 oleonard tumer's work? 15:00 adnc interesting to see that the government is using koha for the parliament-library 15:01 hdl Yes. 15:01 hdl So that used to be koha 15:01 adnc used to be? 15:01 adnc they have note on the bottom saying it is based on koha 15:02 hdl tumer did so much work on his own that it is now koha+++ 15:02 hdl Yes it IS koha based. 15:02 hdl but as a film is novel based. 15:03 wizzyrea hdl: ++ in what ways? 15:03 wizzyrea (just curious 15:03 hdl dom configuration for biblios 15:03 hdl for instance. 15:03 wizzyrea oo 15:03 jcamins_ !! 15:03 hdl using a custom schema for biblios 15:04 hdl too 15:04 wizzyrea heavy styling changes I can see 15:04 wizzyrea but I"m not sure I like it all that well really 15:04 hdl well, not so much. 15:04 hdl it was based on npl theme. 15:05 oleonard pre-3.0 15:05 wizzyrea mhm 15:05 hdl actually it is just another fork of koha. 15:05 wizzyrea JAFK :) 15:05 wizzyrea JAFoK? 15:05 hdl but the work of tumer was really impressive in the background. 15:06 * jcamins_ would love to see the DOM biblio indexing. 15:06 hdl the support of DOM and of a schema for biblios (if ever achieved)... 15:07 hdl is really a great change. 15:07 wizzyrea so... wasp nest... why has it not been contributed to koha? 15:07 rk morning everyone. is this a place where a newb can ask a quick question? 15:07 jcamins_ The RM at the time refused it. 15:08 kf rk: sure 15:08 hdl it was developped in tortoise on windows. 15:08 hdl And he could not send patches. 15:09 hdl So reconciling two diverging branches is heavy PITA. 15:09 wizzyrea *nod* 15:09 rk okay. i'm trying to figure out where to change my mailto options so email goes to my account instead of root when cron jobs are done 15:09 jcamins_ rk: you add a MAILTO=me@wherever.com in your crontab. 15:09 hdl MAILTO= in cronjobs ;) 15:09 kf ok, time to leave :) 15:10 kf will be back later! 15:10 rk thanks, that's what I thought but without access to root myself I have to convey this info to our IT dept. 15:14 adnc has someone got a serveradress for z39.50 in germany with a large catalog? 15:16 wizzyrea oh bummer you just missed kf 15:21 hdl http://irspy.indexdata.com/ here you may find what you need. 15:23 adnc hdl, thank you 15:30 adnc hdl, is there anything wrong with this entry http://irspy.indexdata.com/full.html?id=Z39.50%3Alibrary.bilgi.edu.tr%3A210%2FINNOPAC 15:30 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6174] Ordering fails <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6174> 15:32 hdl adnc: why are you asking ? 15:32 adnc hdl, it doesn deliver any entries 15:33 hdl you should try with yaz-client. 15:33 adnc hdl, yes but I don't know how to use it 15:35 hdl http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/administration-extended-services.html#administration-extended-services-yaz-client 15:41 adnc hdl, how can I select a database with yaz-client? 15:41 adnc [236] Access to specified database denied -- v2 addinfo 'Access to specified database denied' 15:41 adnc what i get when i search for nything 15:41 hdl yaz-client http://test:port/database 15:41 hdl yaz-client tcp://test:port/database 15:45 adnc [114] Unsupported Use attribute -- v2 addinfo 'Unsupported use attribute' 15:47 hdl the query you did is invalid 15:47 hdl f @attr 1=4 mytitle 15:47 hdl f @attr 1=7 myauthor 15:48 adnc hdl and the results? 15:48 hdl show 15:49 adnc ohhh that works great 15:49 adnc now on koha aswel 15:49 adnc hdl, thanks 15:59 oleonard So, I followed rangi's instructions for converting my in-progress tmpl branch to a t:t one, but what's next? 16:00 oleonard I've got a branch now that has both sets of templates 16:05 oleonard remove koha-tmpl and move koha-tt into its place, rebase origin? 16:11 wizzyrea oleonard: I think that's right 16:12 wizzyrea remove/rename koha-tmpl and rename koha-tt into it's place 16:12 wizzyrea cait, do you have advice for oleonard re: how to get his TT templates into his working branch? 16:14 cait huh? 16:15 cait what does he want to do? 16:15 wizzyrea he's got a branch that has both sets of templates, what is the next step? remove koha-tmpl and move koha-tt into its place, rebase origin? 16:16 cait hm I just did a git pull 16:16 cait and it just worked 16:16 cait only had to install this new cpan module 16:16 cait and if he wants to convert old to new - I think rangi sent a mail how to do that 16:16 oleonard If I rebase origin git tries to replay my changes starting from before the TT conversion and of course I get a conflict 16:17 cait hm 16:18 jcamins oleonard: I think you cherry-pick it onto a new branch. 16:18 oleonard I followed the instructions: 1. check out new branch based on that particular commit 16:18 oleonard 2) cherry pick my changes into that branch 16:19 oleonard 3) run the conversion script 16:19 jcamins Right, I think the rest of the procedure (if I understand correctly) is: 16:19 jcamins 4) check out your bugfix branch 16:19 jcamins 5) cherry-pick the new commit onto the bugfix branch 16:19 jcamins 6) submit 16:20 oleonard What is the "new commit" in step 5? 16:21 jcamins The amended commit from step 3. 16:21 oleonard I'll try that 16:22 cait jcamins++ 16:26 jcamins cait: remind me how to install a translation? 16:26 adnc i did an update and now i have a software error: 16:26 adnc Can't locate Template.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/koha/kohaclone /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 32. 16:27 adnc BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 32. 16:27 adnc is there anything I need to consider? 16:27 cait yep 16:28 cait new module :) 16:28 hdl aptitude install templatetoolkit-perl 16:28 cait andc: you updated to the last dev version - it's unstable at the moment, because of a bigger change 16:28 oleonard jcamins: Same problem. When I try to rebase it tries to replay my commits from before the TT conversion 16:28 cait but what hdl said 16:29 adnc hdl, cait thank you. I would like to install it on my vserver which is running debian, but I do not want to have the opac that open. is it possible to secure it? 16:30 cait hm, I think there is an option for that in the new version 16:31 cait I don't have a working koha on this computer - check the sys prefs 16:33 jcamins oleonard: cherry-picking rebases? 16:34 cait adnc: irgendwas mit priv* denke ich 16:34 adnc cait, danke 16:34 oleonard jcamins: Hunh? 16:35 adnc cait, could it be OpacPublic? 16:35 cait yes 16:35 cait habs noch nicht ausprobiert - ist ganz neu 16:39 adnc cait, thanks that works. 16:39 cait cool 16:40 adnc I just see that when i search in opac for a book with the search string "a" it finds all the books, but when i search for a authors surname or name i get an "An Error has Occurred Error 404" 16:41 cait hm 16:41 cait you search for the other using another search option? 16:43 cait author... 16:59 adnc cait, when i use the other search options the same happens 17:01 adnc does someone know if the koha latest stable release has opac authentication/restrictions? 17:06 cait afaik it's only in 3.4 17:07 adnc is 3.4 stable? 17:08 cait no 17:09 cait the new release will happen soon 17:09 adnc and where can I than find debian packages for 17:09 adnc is koha packaging it? 17:09 cait debian.koha-community.org 17:09 adnc ahh 17:10 adnc but i see that the packages are all for squeeze 17:16 cait sorry, I have no experience with the packages 17:16 cait eythian is the package expert 18:41 oleonard Grrr... 18:41 cait cookie? 18:43 gmcharlt adnc: correct, Koha's packaging started with squeeze 18:44 oleonard Still trying to figure out this template conversion process 18:44 oleonard I keep getting to the end and finding something didn't make it through 18:44 gmcharlt adnc: forcing it to lenny is possible, but only if you can live with a franken-Debian 18:48 adnc gmcharlt, I think it is better for me to wait till 3.4 is out. I'm just upgrading my lenny to squeeze 18:48 adnc since I would need restrictions to opac 18:53 adnc I get an "An Error has Occurred 18:53 adnc Error 404" whenever I search for an author 19:09 wizzyrea wow, offline circ is pretty broken :( 19:09 wizzyrea will be filing lots of bugs on that one 19:10 * oleonard thinks he finally got his jqueryUI branch converted to TT correctly 19:10 wizzyrea for one: returns processed by the koc uploader don't trigger holds (on the bright side, if we fix that UI problem of batch returns then we'll have solved the problem of batch returns :P) 19:11 wizzyrea if an item is checked out to patron 1 and issued to patron 2 with the offline circ, nothing happens 19:12 wizzyrea if an item is renewed, it works, but all subsequent transactions fail 19:12 * wizzyrea congratulates oleonard 19:12 wizzyrea no small feat! 19:17 rhcl wizzyrea: what probs are you seeing w/ offline circ? We haven't had many probs w/ it. 19:17 wizzyrea ^^ 19:17 wizzyrea see above 19:18 rhcl oh 19:19 wizzyrea now, this is with the october version of offline circ 19:19 wizzyrea not the one with cakephp 19:21 wizzyrea in all cases the right data exists in the file... it appears to be in the processing 19:21 wizzyrea where the problem is 19:25 rhcl we're talking about all this here 19:25 wizzyrea but you haven't seen any of those things? 19:25 rhcl well, 19:26 rhcl OK, so lets say a patron at one of our nursing homes (the outreach is where we use offline circ)... 19:27 rhcl has a book checked out, and a patron places a hold on that book. So the hold is on it, right? And you are saying when ... 19:27 rhcl you upload your off-line circ records it doesn't raise a flag when it sees the hold? 19:28 rangi morning 19:28 cait good morning rangi 19:28 mtj heya folks 19:29 rangi oleonard: tcohen and marcelr have done the changing patches for tt 19:29 rangi myabe drop a mail to the devel list asking how they did it 19:30 wizzyrea rhcl correct 19:31 rangi I think there a few ways, what I've been doing is splitting the patch into 2 one that is the tmpl changes the other everything else 19:31 oleonard rangi: The problem I ran into was that after following your instructions I was in a branch with koha-tmpl and koha-tt. koha-tmpl still had the updated css/js/img files 19:31 wizzyrea hey mtj 19:31 oleonard I had to be sure to copy the updated css/js/img files into koha-tt before replacing koha-tmpl with koha-tt 19:32 rangi ahh yeah sorry 19:32 rangi -c 19:32 rangi with the convert script 19:32 rangi copies those files 19:32 mtj heya wiz 19:32 wizzyrea rhcl: that's not really the one that I'm most concerned about 19:33 rangi you might wanna reply to my mail saying if you have js/css etc changes 19:33 rangi use -c 19:33 oleonard I'll do that 19:33 rangi my bad sorry 19:33 wizzyrea I'm more concerned about renewal operations breaking subsequent issues 19:33 wizzyrea (offline circ) 19:35 oleonard rangi: ./installer/html-template-to-template-toolkit.pl -c --koharoot /path/to/the/root ? 19:35 rangi thats it 19:36 rhcl wizzyrea: Here's what we we do... 19:36 rangi -f for a single file 19:36 rhcl We have an outreach program to nursing homes. They may have books checked out that a patron has subsequently put on hold. 19:36 rangi chris.hall++ 19:36 wizzyrea you return them using the offline circ? 19:36 rhcl Right now out TS manager, before the outreach guy leaves for his runs, pulls up the checkout record for each nursing home (each place has a unique card), 19:36 rhcl ...the TS manager... 19:37 oleonard rangi: Here's my other question. After completing that process I can't do 'git rebase origin' because it want to replay my changes from before the TT conversion 19:37 rhcl and looks to see if there are any holds in that home's checked out items, and if so the guy sets that item aside so he can return it separately from the others 19:37 rhcl This sounds like waaay too much work to me--there's gotta be something better. 19:37 wizzyrea yea, it would be nice to be able to do batch returns at all that compensate for holds 19:37 oleonard rangi: I ended up making a copy of the koha-tmpl folder and pasting it into a new branch 19:37 rangi oleonard: yes you do not want to rebase 19:38 wizzyrea (the patron circ screen, the checkboxes, if you return all there it's the same problem) 19:38 wizzyrea (no holds are triggered) 19:38 rhcl But we don't want to have it flagged at the time we do the batch upload of the off-line transactions 19:38 rhcl >they say, anyway< 19:38 rhcl They just want to upload and be done with it 19:38 wizzyrea mhm 19:39 rhcl but still, to me it seems like there should be a better work flow 19:39 * wizzyrea also wants to upload and be done with it 19:39 wizzyrea my solution to that particular problem 19:39 rangi it should check holds every time it sees a book 19:39 wizzyrea is to use offline circ only for issues 19:39 wizzyrea but ideally 19:39 wizzyrea what rangi said 19:39 wizzyrea is the optimum solutions 19:39 rhcl rangi: but it won't know in offline, it would only know at checkin (upload) 19:39 wizzyrea with no s. Happy fingers to day 19:40 wizzyrea right, when you upload the file it should tell you 19:40 wizzyrea at the end of processing 19:40 rangi yes 19:40 wizzyrea XXX item has a hold on it and requires attention! 19:40 rangi wizzyrea: is there a bug reported for return all not triggering holds? 19:41 wizzyrea I think so yes, let me look 19:41 rangi make it critical 19:41 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3345 19:41 huginn 04Bug 3345: normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Return All items on patron detail does not initiate transfer of holds 19:41 wizzyrea you're the boss 19:41 rangi mark it for 3.4 19:41 rangi and well aim for 3.4.1 19:41 wizzyrea done and done 19:42 rangi ta 19:42 oleonard I wonder if that is on sekjal's radar for the holds overhaul 19:42 rangi it will be now 19:43 wizzyrea that one has been broken for so long. We usually just hide that column, heh. 19:43 cait hm, probably should do that too 19:44 * cait makes a mental note 19:44 cait ok, switching laptops to do some testing - will be back 19:44 rangi oleonard: holds rewrite is for 3.6 19:45 rangi but we can fix that bug before then 19:45 rangi for the 3.4 cycle 19:45 wizzyrea but we might need oleonard's crack sense of ui design for it 19:45 rangi yeah ui is the trick 19:45 rangi u know the funky way prefs do it? 19:46 gmcharlt cheap way of doing (really cheap) would be to have it loudly refuse to check in any items that fill hold requests 19:46 rangi with the messages thingy at the bottom? 19:46 rangi yep 19:46 gmcharlt thereby signalling to the librarian to check them in individually 19:46 wizzyrea ooo that would be cool (the ajax-y way) 19:46 * cait likes the messaging thing at the bottom idea 19:46 wizzyrea I'm thinking very hard about pianohacker right now.... 19:47 wizzyrea in an attempt to summon him with the power of my mind 19:47 rangi but yeah first step, dont let them be returned 19:47 rangi next step do something fancier :) 19:48 cait fix the evil bugs! 19:48 wizzyrea that one 19:48 wizzyrea is pretty evil. 19:48 wizzyrea it's a silent fail too, *no* indication that you need to do something 19:48 wizzyrea even when it does something, like put an item in transit! 19:49 rangi yeah gmcharlt's solution would be fast and would make it a lot better right away 19:49 wizzyrea mhm 19:50 gmcharlt and (with a slight thawing of the string freeze) is not impossible for 3.4.0 19:51 oleonard Come to think of it, we already block the "on hold" checkouts from having a "renew" checkbox. We could easily do the same in the template for the "check in" checkbox. 19:51 gmcharlt oleonard++ # although the forehead I slapped doesn't thank you 19:52 oleonard Of course it's a little obscure from the point of view of the librarian understanding why it is blocked 19:52 gmcharlt but wouldn't take more than a bit of text to explain, at least for 3.4.0 19:52 wizzyrea oleonard 19:52 wizzyrea that is such a good idea 19:53 wizzyrea replace the checkbox with "on hold" 19:53 wizzyrea just like renewal 19:53 wizzyrea force them to scan it 19:54 hdl if you could checkout circulation stuff, it is already in the patches we proposed. 19:54 rhcl when we do off-line check checkouts we need the transactioins to appear at the top and age downward.... 19:55 rhcl right now each new transaction goes to the bottom of the list, and when we have 100 or so the checkerouter has 19:55 wizzyrea well that's not how the file is configured, and I'm assuming it processes from top to bottom 19:55 rhcl to scroll down to the bottom of the list to visually confirm the checkout was correct 19:55 wizzyrea are you using the version of offline circ that uses cakephp? 19:56 rhcl actually, for both checkouts and checking 19:56 rhcl checkins 19:56 wizzyrea or the new one that doesn't have that dependency 19:56 wizzyrea the one I was looking at was really readable 19:56 wizzyrea easy to use 19:56 rhcl 1.2 19:57 wizzyrea hm yea that's the one I was looking at 19:57 wizzyrea but i'd be really curious to see if yours fails with the renewals 19:57 wizzyrea because I had probably 2 issues, then a renewal, then a few more issues 19:57 wizzyrea and the few more issues were not processed 19:58 wizzyrea so you got the prior to the renewal issues, and the renewal 19:58 wizzyrea but everything after that - gone 19:58 rhcl so at upload time is where are are having problems? I don't think we have any probs with that, our uploads seem to work fine 19:58 wizzyrea no, at processing time 19:58 wizzyrea you upload -> then process 19:58 wizzyrea there's a button for each 19:59 wizzyrea processing gives you a list of actions that were taken 19:59 wizzyrea in my testing it stopped after renewals 19:59 wizzyrea even if you had 2 renewals in a row, it would do both and then nothing after 19:59 rhcl ok, ours does the upload OK, and sometimes it gets stuck on the processing, and appears to stop, but everything does get loaded into the Koha db 20:00 wizzyrea no, in my testing it says "completed" 20:00 rhcl it's supposed to generate a list after processing, but sometimes if we glitch it doesn't finish and generate that list 20:00 wizzyrea heh 20:00 rhcl as I said, however, everything does make it into the db 20:00 wizzyrea I bet your glitch is a renewal 20:00 rhcl yes 20:01 wizzyrea well then we need to fix the effin reporting, because it's VERY misleading 20:01 cait back 20:02 rhcl you missed all the good stuff cait 20:02 cait oh, I missed the cookies? 20:02 rhcl we ate 'em all 20:02 cait oh noes 20:05 rangi gmcharlt/oleonard: id accept that patch for 3.4.0 if you get it to me by wednesday next week 20:05 rangi (signed off and tested) 20:06 oleonard I can take a look at the template tomorrow 20:06 rangi woo hoo! 20:06 cait oleonard++ 20:06 cait great idea :) 20:06 cait going to look at the patches colin send for adv search now 20:06 rangi yay 20:07 rangi his stuff pretty much always works, so im pretty hopeful it will be an easy sign off :) 20:07 cait I hope so too :) 20:07 rangi ohh koha in Tijuana 20:08 rangi running 3.2.6 20:08 rangi running_official_koha++ 20:08 rangi hehe 20:08 rangi http://clavius.tij.uia.mx/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=amigo 20:08 rangi gmcharlt: there you go, theres my new default test search string 20:08 rangi for your blog 20:09 gmcharlt heh 20:09 rangi heya druthb 20:09 druthb hi, rangi. 20:10 rangi on the road again? 20:10 cait druthb: they ate all the cookies :( 20:10 druthb at the hotel lobby; I head home tomorrow. 20:10 rangi ahhh 20:11 wizzyrea ok, rhcl 20:11 wizzyrea I saw your glitchy behavior once 20:11 wizzyrea but the 2nd time I tested it 20:11 wizzyrea it did the thing where it didn't process after the renewals again 20:12 wizzyrea and definitely, if you try to issue an item that is on issue to another patron, it goes freak nasty and doesn't do anything. 20:26 cait ah, now I missed oleonard 20:35 wizzyrea whoa wait 20:35 wizzyrea did the french really just pass a law that requires passwords to be kept in cleartext? 20:35 druthb That, and outlawing burqas. 20:36 wizzyrea ... 20:37 rangi yep 20:38 rangi what is unclear is if it applies to libraries 20:38 cait jcamins: ? 20:39 jcamins_away What? 20:39 cait ah 20:39 cait only wanted to tell you that rangi fixed the comma problem in patron search :) 20:39 jcamins_away Ah, yes, I saw, thanks. 20:39 rangi well chris hall did 20:39 rangi i just pushed it 20:39 cait chris.hall++ 20:40 cait hm, possible that colin's patches for bug 6170 fix bug 5099 too? 20:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6170 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, 'More options' in advanced search broken 20:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5099 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Avanced Search page unavailable when OpacGroupResults is used 20:40 rangi yes 20:40 rangi the first patch fixes 5099 20:40 rangi the second one fixes the more options 20:41 rangi soon as they are signed off ill push them 20:41 cait sending now :) 20:41 cait it doesn't fix the layout problem 20:41 cait but the functionality looks good 20:42 cait done 20:42 bg @wunder 93109 20:43 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.1�C (1:43 PM PDT on April 12, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). 20:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5917' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6073bd86e24494cd12125a4cd47772c672bbd4a5> / comma fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d3273595cb38cd29a83448ba3f83ecca1a993d2> 20:44 jenkins_koha Starting build 175 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 3 j 11 h ago) 20:48 cait why is jenkins unhappy? 20:49 rangi you can see why here 20:49 rangi test for templates failing, cos they arent tmpl anymore 20:49 rangi ill fix that when i get time 20:50 rangi oh now its still memebrs 20:50 rangi members even 20:50 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/ 20:58 cait hm 20:59 cait does it show the test too? or only the number for the test? 21:00 cait hm 4959 signed off? 21:00 cait bug 4959 21:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4959 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED, Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket. 21:01 rangi cait: you can look at the console output to see the test ill try to fix it later today 21:01 cait there is a sign-off on the list from Colin - I will change bugzilla 21:01 rangi thank you 21:02 cait console output? 21:02 rangi link on the left 21:02 rangi on jenkins 21:02 cait sorry, jenkins forces me to look at a German interface... and no language chooser 21:02 rangi ahh 21:02 rangi its probably called 21:02 cait almost tempted to give it bad karma for that 21:02 rangi Achtung! Konsole! Schnell! 21:02 cait found it :) 21:03 cait hehe 21:03 cait lol 21:06 cait rangi: about 4959 - it seems the database update is missing - only adds the syspref to the pref file 21:06 rangi ah, that would do it 21:06 rangi or not :) 21:06 rangi can you note that please 21:07 cait I did, change bug status? 21:08 rangi yup 21:08 rangi failed qa 21:09 cait done 21:09 rangi ta 21:11 cait hi bywater 21:11 cait ? 21:11 bywater Hey cait (it's just brendan on my iPad 21:11 cait ah :) 21:11 bywater Trying a different connection 21:12 cait rangi: last one for today - is there a way I could test bug 5791? 21:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5791 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Robust handling of deleted biblios/authorities 21:13 cait still using the old templates 21:13 cait tomas rebased it but I was travelling back from marseille and missed it 21:15 rangi you can test that if you checkout the tag (i forget its name, it was in the mail i sent to koha-devel) 21:16 cait ok 21:22 cait html_template_pro :) 21:23 rangi there we go ;) 21:23 jcamins_away Is there a way to limit the number of suggestions a patron can make? 21:23 jcamins_away That seems very familiar, but I can't find a syspref for it. 21:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #175: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/175/ 21:24 jenkins_koha Christopher Hall: comma fix 21:25 cait jcamins: no 21:26 jcamins_away cait: thanks. 21:26 cait sorry to have to say no 21:41 jcamins_away I think it's time to call it a night. 21:41 jcamins_away Good night, #koha. 21:41 cait same here 21:41 cait good night all :) 22:21 rangi this is very cool! 22:21 rangi http://www.librarytechnology.org/lwc-displaylibrary.pl?RC=59638 22:21 rangi http://twitpic.com/photos/DougCurrie 22:59 jenkins_koha Starting build 176 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 3 j 13 h ago) 23:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6170: restore more options to staff adv search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ea74bef65a9c5e14a6026aa2c9942fe511a87b3> / Bug 6170 restore more options to advanced search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8384c95eef0b67cf1666a05c8d98ce777d51372> / Bug 6170: Do not prematurely group results <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8 23:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #176: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/176/ 23:39 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6170: Do not prematurely group results 23:39 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6170 restore more options to advanced search 23:39 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6170: restore more options to staff adv search 23:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6170 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, 'More options' in advanced search broken 23:44 jenkins_koha Starting build 177 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #151 3 j 14 h ago) 23:47 rangi hi glernil 23:48 glernil good day! 23:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5067 Add a cleanisbn param to bulkmarcimport.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9d082bcdc353d5f49703cd598d5f3cc1f0f55da> 23:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6174: Fix ordering of existing title <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f11ba1343c0175afb6b6d5eba8cca535a7d1cb57> / When running the tests a user is not logged in so C4::Context->userenv <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=25d6beb80506370b8f237f9ab1e1e29eebd55f50>