Time  Nick                 Message
23:32 cait                 good night all
23:32 cait                 time to sleep
23:25 jenkins_koha         Chris Cormack: Typo in kohastructured.sql thanks to Marcel de Rooy for the catch
23:25 jenkins_koha         Project Koha_master build #90: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/90/
23:12 cait                 hi space_librarian
23:12 space_librarian      hey cait
23:12 cait                 hi all
23:02 rangi                bbiab
23:02 rangi                meeting
22:59 eythian              it's just a matter of me getting around to asking the right people here :)
22:59 bg                   heh come work with us - we'll get you what you need :)
22:58 eythian              Oh, I need to do that too. I only have 4, and it's not quite enough.
22:49 huginn               New commit(s) kohagit: Typo in kohastructured.sql thanks to Marcel de Rooy for the catch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c584003c1d96df21a06af47eebcf2f9a7f461123>
22:48 * rangi              will do that
22:48 rangi                4 would be fine
22:48 ibeardslee           just update your WR and I'll get you up to 4, grovel to your director if you want more
22:47 ibeardslee           ahh
22:47 rangi                made me realise i only have 3 gig of ram
22:47 ibeardslee           rangi: done what?
22:45 jenkins_koha         Starting build 90 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:42 rangi                ibeardslee: oh now youve done it
22:38 magnuse              oh well, it's gone half past midnight here... good night #koha!
22:30 rangi                cya
22:30 conan                I got to rush home now, see you all tomorrow, bye all
22:29 conan                I think I got an idea now, but still trying to get the hang of it
22:29 conan                I just didn't wanted to present myself until I knew what I'm about to do here
22:29 rangi                oh excellent
22:29 conan                rangi: I'll be doing a proper presentation on the list these days
22:29 * rangi              was just curious
22:29 rangi                no problem
22:28 conan                rangi: yes, I'm from Argentina, sorry for the delay
22:21 rangi                :)
22:21 magnuse              s/  / i /
22:20 magnuse              guess  better sleep on it...
22:20 magnuse              thanks for trying, rangi!
22:19 rangi                im out of obvious ideas then
22:19 magnuse              hiya Irma!
22:19 magnuse              tried chown'ing to www-data, still no luck
22:18 rangi                or at least whatever user apache runs as
22:17 rangi                are they readable by the world?
22:17 magnuse              hm, all the files are owned by me, shouldn't that be ok?
22:15 magnuse              hm, could be, perhaps
22:15 rangi                permissions?
22:15 rangi                hmmm
22:14 magnuse              nope, only koha is enabled
22:14 rangi                is there a default or another config getting in the way?
22:13 magnuse              all i get is You don't have permission to access / on this server. 403 Forbidden
22:13 rangi                either should work
22:13 magnuse              so, if i want to access a locally installed koha as http://localhost/ on my ubuntu machine - what should the ServerName in the apache config file be? localhost? 127.0.0.1?
22:09 rangi                that should be an easy sign off for someone
22:06 mtj                  but yeah, one descriptor should be enuff
22:06 mtj                  or just double-paste the host value into name, if yr lazy too
22:05 mtj                  yeah, me too
22:05 rangi                right ill make a bug and attach the patch :)
22:05 magnuse              i'd say the name should be enough
22:05 rangi                or just the name
22:05 rangi                yeah
22:04 magnuse              so the question is do we want to display e.g. z3950.loc.gov to cataloguers?
22:03 rangi                (from anyone)
22:03 rangi                opinions?
22:03 rangi                http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=3b96e6602c331480b6f0ca2fb7eb5cf587f888bc
22:02 rangi                oh conan is in argentina?
21:59 jcamins_away         Whatever else I serve will probably require a trip out.
21:56 jcamins_away         Salad is a definite possibility.
21:56 jcamins_away         But that's where all the food is.
21:56 * jcamins_away       just got back from inspecting the contents of his... living room, actually.
21:56 jcamins_away         Hm.
21:55 * magnuse            is having no luck installing koha tonight - now koha-common is giving me errors too...
21:54 space_librarian      I like your style. :)
21:54 wizzyrea             space_librarian: we should be friends :)
21:54 wizzyrea             maybe salad
21:54 space_librarian      wizzyrea: +1
21:54 wizzyrea             hummus and pita, with olives
21:54 space_librarian      chicken noodle soup?
21:53 space_librarian      something light, but tasty.
21:53 wizzyrea             of the hungry wife
21:53 wizzyrea             but back to jcamins' problem
21:53 * wizzyrea           wonders if she has the stuff for that at home...
21:52 * space_librarian    thinks she'll be making mac n cheese for dinner tonight...
21:52 * magnuse            is getting hungry now, and berakfast is 8 hours away...
21:52 wizzyrea             mmmmm
21:52 space_librarian      a few slices of grilled tomato on the top...
21:51 wizzyrea             lil bit of grilled chicken... nice creamy white sauce with cheese...
21:51 * magnuse            likes mac and likes cheese, so it sounds promising
21:51 space_librarian      It's my favourite, but not out of the box.
21:51 wizzyrea             but I do like it when it's homemade
21:51 wizzyrea             I don't like it out of the box
21:51 wizzyrea             must be an american thing
21:51 rangi                we have it lots at our house tho, cos laurel and the kids do
21:51 wizzyrea             I'll make him beer-something
21:50 * space_librarian    makes another shocked face.
21:50 wizzyrea             ;)
21:50 wizzyrea             rangi is not invited.
21:50 * rangi              doesnt like it
21:50 space_librarian      yes. This needs to happen.
21:50 rangi                heh
21:50 wizzyrea             "feed magnuse mac and cheese"
21:50 * wizzyrea           makes a note
21:50 magnuse              s/i/in/
21:50 magnuse              maybe when it's time for kohacon i the us again?
21:49 * wizzyrea           makes the shocked face too
21:49 * space_librarian    is shocked at magnuse's revelation
21:49 * wizzyrea           can't either
21:49 * jcamins_away       just can't bring himself to eat mac and cheese out of a box.
21:48 * magnuse            has never tried mac and cheese
21:48 wizzyrea             and slightly fancy
21:48 wizzyrea             waffles are good
21:48 wizzyrea             :)
21:48 wizzyrea             mac and cheese out of a box then!
21:48 jcamins_away         Oddly enough, she doesn't like homemade mac and cheese.
21:48 wizzyrea             mashed potatoes
21:48 space_librarian      comfort food
21:48 space_librarian      pancakes are always good
21:47 wizzyrea             homemade mac and cheese
21:47 jcamins_away         I like the way you're thinking.
21:47 jcamins_away         magnuse: ooh.
21:47 magnuse              hm, something simple, reminiscent of childhood - pancakes?
21:46 wizzyrea             hmm what does she usually like?
21:46 wizzyrea             druthb++ #seriously, thanks for fixing that dual prompt thing.
21:46 jcamins_away         Actually, before I really leave, I have a question for the wisdom of #koha: what meal is so tasty that my wife will be persuaded to eat, despite the fact that I've only managed to get her to eat about half a meal a day for the past week?
21:42 wizzyrea             gnite jcamins
21:42 jcamins              Good night, #koha
21:36 rangi                heh
21:36 * magnuse            has heard of sudoku
21:35 * rangi              emails
21:35 rangi                sudoc stuff and submodules
21:35 rangi                well none of these commits have your names against them
21:34 magnuse              remember: ask, don't ask to ask ;-)
21:34 rangi                :)
21:34 magnuse              used to be ;-)
21:34 magnuse              sort of
21:34 rangi                doesnt look like it
21:33 rangi                any biblibrans here?
21:33 magnuse              it sure is
21:33 wizzyrea             dunno if it's good, but it's... something.
21:32 magnuse              ;-)
21:32 magnuse              it's called a micro-break
21:32 magnuse              good on you
21:32 magnuse              heh
21:32 wizzyrea             why yes, I did in fact just spend 5 minutes looking for the right interpretation of that joke.
21:31 pastebot             "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "One more number joke" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/195
21:30 wizzyrea             ah here's the one I was thinking of
21:29 magnuse              hehe, hadn't heard that version before
21:28 wizzyrea             but you get the idea
21:28 wizzyrea             not quite the interpretation I was looking for
21:27 pastebot             "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "numbers jokes" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/194
21:27 huginn               rangi: Quote #94: "<chris> the more i explain, the more ppl know, and the less i have to do in the future ... its purely selfish hehe" (added by kf at 08:45 AM, September 13, 2010)
21:27 rangi                @quote random
21:27 wizzyrea             hehe
21:25 magnuse              ah, taking over the world with flamng bacon, perhaps?
21:24 wizzyrea             i'm still giggling over flaming bacon.
21:24 huginn               wizzyrea: Quote #76: "<owen> yes, it's all part of my plan to take over the world." (added by chris_n at 03:50 PM, June 02, 2010)
21:24 wizzyrea             @quote random
21:23 wizzyrea             that was funny
21:23 wizzyrea             i remember the bacon day
21:23 wizzyrea             LOL
21:23 huginn               wizzyrea: Quote #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!" (added by jdavidb at 09:40 PM, July 17, 2009)
21:23 wizzyrea             @quote random
21:23 rangi                thats a lie
21:23 huginn               wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
21:23 wizzyrea             @quote random
21:23 magnuse              good to know
21:23 wizzyrea             ...
21:23 huginn               wizzyrea: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 03:50 PM, July 31, 2009)
21:23 wizzyrea             @quote random
21:22 huginn               magnuse: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010)
21:22 magnuse              @quote get 102
21:22 magnuse              it's the tribe language
21:22 magnuse              hehe
21:22 * wizzyrea           giggles
21:22 wizzyrea             123!
21:22 magnuse              hehe
21:22 wizzyrea             YES
21:22 magnuse              where someone mentions a number and everyone laughs?
21:22 * jcamins            thinks the fact that we all understood that reference means it's too late.
21:21 wizzyrea             pretty soon we'll be like that joke
21:21 magnuse              yeah, i'll be using that ;-)
21:21 huginn               wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
21:21 wizzyrea             @quote get 23
21:20 wizzyrea             and nicely congruent with the other one I remember:
21:20 wizzyrea             easy to remember even
21:20 huginn               wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
21:20 wizzyrea             @quote get 123
21:20 wizzyrea             now we can
21:20 huginn               wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #123 added.
21:20 wizzyrea             @quote add rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder
21:19 rangi                http://twitter.com/ranginui/statuses/51008167383019520
21:19 wizzyrea             we should quote add that
21:19 wizzyrea             hehehehe
21:19 rangi                i have a tweet for this situation
21:18 conan                but it sound strange to me, since category is used as a connector
21:17 wizzyrea             aha
21:17 conan                she told me that they use category as a memory aid
21:17 * wizzyrea           is ashamed
21:17 wizzyrea             they are not very pretty :)
21:17 conan                talking yesterday to the librarian who is introducing me to this world
21:17 wizzyrea             I was just looking at our ccodes
21:16 wizzyrea             sure :)
21:16 conan                thanks
21:16 conan                cool
21:16 wizzyrea             you can have 2 descriptions, one that your staff sees, and one that your patrons see
21:16 wizzyrea             yes, exactly
21:15 * magnuse            thinks conan is guessing right
21:15 conan                wizzyrea: by descriptions I guess you mean lib and lib_opac on that table, or are you talking about something else?
21:14 magnuse              heh, there's cricket on the norwegian sports news - not something you see every day...
21:14 wizzyrea             so it matters less if they're ugly
21:14 wizzyrea             lots of places show the description (if existent) instead of the code
21:13 magnuse              helpful_descriptions++
21:13 wizzyrea             (they are helpful and friendly)
21:13 wizzyrea             (don't neglect your descriptions)
21:13 wizzyrea             and make nice descriptions
21:13 wizzyrea             is 10char the names
21:13 wizzyrea             what we do
21:13 conan                I guess I'll have to recode those text then...
21:10 wizzyrea             (flexible)
21:09 wizzyrea             it's one of the things that makes koha pretty awesome
21:09 wizzyrea             it's their whim whether to follow the standard or to deviate
21:09 wizzyrea             I vote whim
21:09 magnuse              conan: i would guess that would depend on local policies...
21:07 conan                or are they made up at librarian's whim?
21:07 conan                my question is: doesn't the category come from the MARC standard?
21:06 conan                and I've received stuff to go in there which exceeds this char limit
21:06 conan                it's a varchar(10)
21:06 conan                but I was wondering about the field limitation for category on authorised_values table
21:05 conan                I did it, no problem
21:05 conan                they gave me an .XLS file
21:05 conan                I was requested to add a batch of new rows to authorised_values
21:01 magnuse              hiya conan
20:54 conan                hello all
20:42 magnuse              wizzyrea++
20:42 wizzyrea             yepper
20:42 magnuse              wizzyrea: put it on the wiki?
20:41 rangi                cool
20:40 wizzyrea             two step 5's. oh well
20:39 wizzyrea             this should keep it from timing out firefox
20:39 wizzyrea             http://screencast.com/t/7pszBvQ4S
20:39 wizzyrea             entries
20:39 wizzyrea             for anybody who's got patrons with zillions of reading history
20:34 magnuse              or just to explain the run koha-common, then perl Makefile.PL bit
20:33 rangi                yeah
20:32 magnuse              maybe we'll need a INSTALL.debian6, if we're still gonna tell people how to install manually...
20:31 magnuse              looks like there is some good stuff in ther
20:30 rangi                take a look at debian/control
20:30 magnuse              yeah, and adding the indexdata repositories did not do any good
20:30 rangi                it may be out of date
20:30 magnuse              i thought install_misc/apt-get-debian-lenny.sh would take care of a lot of dependencies, but it had some problems
20:29 magnuse              as in none at all, yeah... ;-) )
20:28 rangi                :)
20:28 rangi                i blame not enough coffee
20:28 magnuse              yeah, thought about that, not sure why i didn't do it...
20:27 * rangi              doesnt know why you would do it any other way :)
20:27 rangi                and run perl Makefile.PL from there
20:27 rangi                then do a git clone
20:27 rangi                how about installing koha-common to get the dependencies
20:26 * magnuse            is having a hard time installing koha manually on debian 6 (and yes i know about the packages, but need a manual one... ;-)
20:26 wizzyrea             jcamins++
20:23 rangi                cya
20:23 tcohen               byeeee
20:23 tcohen               :-D
20:23 tcohen               i'm still learning js, so i hope oleonard likes the jquerysh stuff
20:23 rangi                thanks for the fix
20:23 tcohen               i see the point now
20:23 rangi                no problem
20:23 tcohen               thanks again
20:22 rangi                anything else is fair game :)
20:22 rangi                id leave those alone, unless they are very old, and then ask if someone is working on them
20:22 rangi                see it has sponsored set
20:22 huginn               04Bug 5609: enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Holds Rewrite
20:22 rangi                http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5609
20:21 tcohen               thanks, and till tomorrow
20:21 rangi                heres one that is being worked on for a client
20:21 tcohen               ok
20:20 rangi                never apologise for fixing a bug ;-)
20:20 tcohen               and i was just breaking some sort of contract
20:20 rangi                well its taken them a year, so i hope not :)
20:20 tcohen               i was worried someone was being paid for fixing that
20:20 rangi                yep
20:19 tcohen               then i'm fine, and leaving work with a smile
20:19 rangi                seeking cosponsors will mean nothing has been done on it yet
20:19 tcohen               ok
20:19 rangi                yep
20:19 tcohen               i found it to be still present in master
20:19 rangi                so all good fixing it
20:19 rangi                its an old bug
20:19 tcohen               ufff
20:19 rangi                Reported by mjr@ttllp.co.uk 2010-02-15 19:35:20
20:18 rangi                you are fine
20:18 rangi                no
20:18 rangi                that was just assigned to me, when we upgraded bugzilla
20:18 tcohen               i'm sorry if i made a bad mistake
20:18 rangi                ah yeah, im not working on that
20:18 rangi                if i dont, email the person who is assigned to ask if they are
20:18 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4189 minor, P5, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Searching z39.50 without selecting any servers results in error message
20:18 tcohen               bug 4189
20:18 tcohen               i didn't understand that field the way you are telling me
20:17 rangi                ill have lots assigned by default, chances are im not actually working on them
20:17 rangi                which was?
20:17 tcohen               :-(
20:17 tcohen               so I have just stolen a bug from you..
20:17 rangi                we like to give credit in the release notes
20:17 rangi                to give them some credit
20:17 rangi                you could even change it to be sponsored and say "Being paid to work on this by my university"
20:16 rangi                assign it to you, and make a comment, I am working on this
20:16 rangi                if you are working on one
20:16 tcohen               s
20:16 tcohen               oop
20:16 rangi                skip any that are marked sponsored, cos that means people are usually working on them already
20:16 tcohen               should I choose "sponsored" or that is for the reporter to fill?
20:16 rangi                yeah
20:15 tcohen               of koha, and gives me freedom to pick bugs to fix
20:15 tcohen               that pays me for taking care
20:15 tcohen               ok, if i work for a university
20:15 rangi                still a good idea though
20:15 rangi                hasn't really happened
20:15 rangi                the idea is libraries would get together to organise development projects
20:14 rangi                means someone has some money to pay for some of the work, but needs others to help
20:14 * oleonard           too!
20:14 sekjal               until tomorrow, #koha!
20:14 tcohen               rangi: what 'seeking cosponsors' means in bugzilla?
20:13 rangi                hehe
20:13 oleonard             "Come on people lets work together to get all these words spelled!"
20:13 rangi                :)
20:13 oleonard             I've heard quilting bee in that context, and I suppose a spelling bee is the same thing but I don't think that's really a bunch of people getting together to work on spelling.
20:12 rangi                http://rushallgarden.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/summer-working-b-sunday-20-february-2011-10-am-%E2%80%93-12-noon/
20:12 rangi                bunch of ppl get together and do some work
20:12 oleonard             working b?
20:11 rangi                do they have those in the us?
20:11 rangi                might try to organise a working b
20:06 rangi                ill be doing tt stuff mostly full time
20:06 rangi                as soon as i finish http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new/awaiting_qa/biblibre_various
20:06 rangi                sweet thanks
20:05 oleonard             I hoped more stuff would be magically fixed. I'll go over those issues again tomorrow to see what I can find out.
20:05 oleonard             rangi: That's a definite improvement
20:02 rangi                oleonard: no, no its not :) least this gives us a good chance to tidy up
20:02 rangi                wooo hoo
20:02 oleonard             Thinks maybe naming perl variables after natural language phrases in the database isn't the best idea
20:01 * oleonard           thinks he may have fixed that variable name with spaces
20:01 rangi                oleonard: i think its fixed, and they may fix a bunch more other things in the opac
20:01 * jcamins            was thinking that too.
20:00 rangi                :)
20:00 ibeardslee           does mary?
20:00 rangi                jesus, those peter and paul guys dont half whine
20:00 rangi                if you could pull and test that would awesome
19:58 jcamins              Anyone around who uses UNIMARC?
19:58 * Brooke             waves
19:57 rangi                will push the fix now
19:56 rangi                thats all it was
19:56 rangi                yep
19:55 * rangi              fixes
19:55 rangi                not testing it
19:55 rangi                is setting loggedinusername empty
19:55 rangi                line 470
19:55 rangi                that line
19:55 rangi                $template->param(OpacPublic => '1') if ($template->param( 'loggedinusername') || C4::Context-$
19:55 rangi                oleonard:
19:54 oleonard             tcohen: "Please choose at least one Z39.50 target"
19:54 rangi                yes, but HLT at least sekjal
19:54 tcohen               or you'd say "choose"?
19:54 tcohen               is the text "You have to select at least one Z39.50 target." suitable in this context?
19:54 sekjal               is C4::Print still used?
19:53 tcohen               thanks oleonard
19:50 rangi                oleonard: its an interesting one eh, since the title comes through etc
19:50 tcohen               i'll test
19:49 tcohen               ok
19:49 tcohen               on document.ready?
19:49 oleonard             I think
19:49 oleonard             $("form[name='f']").submit(function(){
19:49 tcohen               $(".submit").click( )
19:49 oleonard             tcohen: Add your function to the script block in that template
19:47 tcohen               z3950_search.tmpl
19:47 oleonard             tcohen: What template are you working on? Or is that the question?
19:46 tcohen               i need to put it to intercept the submit
19:46 tcohen               where do i plug it :-D
19:46 tcohen               oleonard: I wrote a js that checks that at least one checkbox is selected
19:44 rangi                right
19:44 oleonard             (checkboxes, edit buttons, etc.)
19:44 oleonard             Yes. And all the places where it hides something when the user isn't logged in
19:44 rangi                is that what you are seening owen?
19:43 rangi                it just doesnt switch the log in to your account bit
19:43 rangi                so it logs you in ok, and has your name right on the opac-user.pl page etc eh
19:42 rangi                maybe it didnt ;)
19:42 wizzyrea             oleonard is a quote machine
19:42 oleonard             I'm surprised that worked even with H:T:P
19:42 * jcamins            shudders
19:41 huginn               Brooke: Quote #88: "<owen> I'm a crazed branch-creating maniac" (added by jwagner at 07:42 PM, August 06, 2010)
19:41 Brooke               @quote random
19:41 jcamins              Spaces in variables?
19:41 rangi                then the converter can convert them
19:41 rangi                those need to be fixed
19:41 rangi                yes
19:41 oleonard             Just found this example: <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="Item Due" -->
19:41 rangi                thats another dashfix issue
19:41 rangi                also spaces, in variables .. they suck
19:36 rangi                see if i can fix it, and shwo you how i did
19:36 rangi                ill look at that right now oleonard
19:32 rangi                htp not so much
19:32 rangi                tt actually cares about scope
19:32 rangi                ah yeah that will be a scoping issue
19:31 oleonard             In the opac the "loggedinusername" variable is evaluating as false even when the user is logged in.
19:31 rangi                whats one that perplexes you currently?
19:30 rangi                right
19:30 oleonard             Well, I'm perplexed by some of the issues I'm seeing so I want to be sure to keep an eye on the fixes that come in
19:30 rangi                im hoping the hackfest people in marseille will do a lot of testing/fixing on it too
19:30 rangi                any you want to fix at the same time, would be hugely appreciated :)
19:29 rangi                oleonard: anyone can, ill accept patches from anyone, but probably mostly me
19:29 * jcamins            is trying to get the Analytics branch tested and signed off, and a follow-up patch or two before the April 1 deadline.
19:29 oleonard             rangi: Will you be looking into the T:T issues I'm posting to the wiki or someone else?
19:28 rangi                today im making more patches to be signed off
19:28 rangi                they can wait til tonight
19:28 rangi                no crits or majors
19:27 wizzyrea             :)
19:27 rangi                and its only been 9 hours
19:27 wizzyrea             YOU. ARE. WELCOME.
19:27 rangi                man, i had it down to 14 bugs in the to be pushed list, its up to 28 again
19:26 rangi                beer + pizza + wifi
19:26 sekjal               I recall!
19:26 rangi                it has free wifi too
19:25 rangi                we went there after the chinese dinner thingy at kohacon
19:25 rangi                sekjal and NateC have been to that bar
19:24 rangi                check out the highlights
19:24 oleonard             Beer named after an unusual reptile? Where do I sign?
19:24 rangi                jcamins: i just keep getting autoreplies from someone from there, so thought id go look it up, are they part of masscat do you know?
19:23 rangi                http://www.grabone.co.nz/wellington
19:23 rangi                ohh good deal on today
19:22 rangi                i see the boys team won the basketball tournament
19:22 rangi                hope gene is enjoying his vacation
19:21 jcamins              MA.
19:21 rangi                hmm where is nps.org
19:18 rangi                tcohen++
19:18 oleonard             No, we have mostly pretty basic js validation. See itemtypes.tmpl or an example.
19:17 tcohen               are we using any fancy sliding alert message or smth?
19:17 tcohen               oleonard: in the js side, is there any example of how do u like to handle incomplete info from the form to alert the user?
19:14 oleonard             Trying with a different search, the holds confirmation screen shows 3 of the 15+ titles I selected
19:13 oleonard             (which is stupid and annoying and I keep meaning to see if I can fix it)
19:12 oleonard             When that happens I get a js alert saying I can't place the holds
19:12 wizzyrea             or had no items?
19:12 wizzyrea             is it possible that one of the items you selected for hold wasn't holdable?
19:11 sekjal               I see multiple
19:11 wizzyrea             hmm
19:10 oleonard             I only see the first result on the hold confirmation page. If I don't select the first result, I see nothing.
19:09 wizzyrea             with multihold
19:09 wizzyrea             oleonard: what problem are you having
19:09 sekjal               oleonard:  seems to be working my install (git pulled from master 10 min ago)
19:07 wizzyrea             hehe
19:06 rangi                you just need to find some friendly farmers between you and there, and wifi it ;-)
19:06 rangi                of course it is :P
19:06 rangi                oh silly me
19:06 rangi                flat?
19:06 wizzyrea             ohhhhhh 30 miles?
19:05 rangi                wizzyrea: how far is it?
19:00 oleonard             Could someone test placing multiple holds from the staff client for me?
18:58 wizzyrea             we'll see
18:57 rhcl                 will surely reach out and touch you quickly
18:57 wizzyrea             :) not close enough to lawrence to matter but ty
18:57 rhcl                 (assuming close counts)
18:56 rhcl                 KCK (Kansas City Kansas) is apparently the first Google ultra high-speed Internet network site. Congrats to wizzyrea.
18:55 oleonard             I only see the first result on the confirmation page. If I don't select the first result, I see nothing.
18:55 huginn               jcamins: The operation succeeded.
18:55 jcamins              @later tell cait I mean, the analytics from OSS Labs.
18:55 oleonard             placing multiple holds from the staff client search results page broken?
18:54 huginn               jcamins: The operation succeeded.
18:54 jcamins              @later tell cait The revised analytics is working much better.
18:54 jcamins              Wow.
18:50 jcamins              git cherry-pick kc/master..colinsc/analytical_branch
18:50 jcamins              I figured it out all by myself. :D
18:50 jcamins              Woohoo!
18:49 bg                   Opening day of the Baseball season
18:49 jcamins              Is there any way to cherry pick *all* commits since a branch diverged onto your working branch?
18:49 bg                   well tomorrow is my favorite national holiday!!!
18:48 rangi                serverside only 2nd best
18:47 rangi                both is best
18:47 tcohen               oleonard & rangi: ack
18:47 rangi                but never just. js
18:47 Brooke               9 in Wellies > 21 in SB
18:47 rangi                or .pl
18:47 rangi                tcohen .pl + js
18:46 rangi                yeah no chance bg
18:46 bg                   woo rangi that maybe tough to catch today
18:46 * oleonard           prefers both, but usually doesn't get his way
18:46 huginn               bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 24.1�C (11:45 AM PDT on March 30, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady).
18:46 bg                   @wunder 93109
18:45 tcohen               which de u devs prefer?
18:45 tcohen               and wanted to ask: handle empty list on .pl side vs. javascript check on submit
18:45 tcohen               which is still present in master
18:44 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4189 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Searching z39.50 without selecting any servers results in error message
18:44 tcohen               hi, i was looking at bug 4189
18:42 jcamins              rangi: me? Heck no!
18:42 rangi                wanna swap?
18:42 rangi                making bug entries and reformatting patches
18:41 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5738 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, dearden, ASSIGNED, Display the URI in 856u as an Image
18:41 jcamins              Woohoo! Successfully tested bug 5738!
18:41 rangi                well I get to spend it in an office
18:41 rangi                heh
18:41 Brooke               must you taunt?
18:40 rangi                its gonna be a nice day, blue skies again
18:39 huginn               rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on March 31, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
18:39 rangi                @wunder wellington nz
18:34 nengard              hiya
18:33 * Brooke             waves to nengard
18:28 rangi                back
18:17 * Brooke             waves to johnindy
18:08 Brooke               teh ohnoes, COBOL pirates have seized the Smithsonian! http://www.si.edu/Exhibitions/Details/COBOL-4681
18:02 Brooke               http://www.nps.gov/cherry/cherry-blossom-web-cam.htm
17:31 rangi                hi Brooke
17:31 Brooke               :)
17:31 magnuse              kia ora Brooke
17:31 Brooke               kia ora!
17:05 rangi                so while there will be a lot, they are fast to fix at least
17:05 rangi                i fixed the biblionumbers missing in the results page too
17:05 rangi                or scoping issues
17:05 rangi                most of the fixes are simple things like that
17:04 rangi                etc
17:04 rangi                su,phr
17:04 rangi                yeah, indexes on the results page
17:04 oleonard             ??
17:03 wizzyrea             oi
17:03 rangi                last night i fixed some that were blah,blah
17:03 oleonard             Okay, thanks for the reminder
17:03 rangi                blah_blah is ok tho
17:03 rangi                so not blah-blah
17:03 rangi                oleonard: variable names need to be valid perl variable names with tt
16:55 jcamins              Well, rangi did warn us there would be.
16:54 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit
16:54 oleonard             Painfully many problems in testing Bug 5917
16:54 jcamins              wizzyrea++ # same reason
16:44 wizzyrea             aw, thanks :)
16:43 sekjal               wizzyrea++ (for being awesome to work for in general)
16:39 oleonard             Can someone remind me what the dashfix issue with Template Toolkit was?
16:39 wizzyrea             np, glad to help
16:37 Raothmist            Update 3.0 to 3.2 done
16:37 druthb               wizzyrea++ # <3  Thanks for the quick sign-off!
16:28 wizzyrea             there we go
16:27 wizzyrea             it's back the way it was anyway
16:27 wizzyrea             I fixed it, sorta.
16:26 wizzyrea             it's probably a sign
16:26 wizzyrea             I did >.<
16:26 jcamins              wizzyrea: I think you just attached your patch to the wrong bug?
16:24 sekjal               "ignore subfield 650$v ?" "why not?"
16:24 sekjal               "only show 650 and 655 fields in subjects?"  "Sure!"
16:23 sekjal               add types 'author', 'type', 'series', 'publisher', 'description', 'isbn', 'subject', and maybe a couple others, and we could make the Normal view for details completely customizable
16:21 sekjal               you know, if we flushed out Keyword to MARC mappings, we could seriously reduce the need for the XSLT display
16:19 sekjal               hmmm.... I think the $subtitle calls got lost in opac-search at some point
16:18 nengard              brb
16:15 nengard              the mappings do appear on the staff search results
16:15 nengard              yes, i was talking about the search results
16:14 sekjal               the subroutine which fetches the data doesn't appear in opac-search.pl
16:14 nengard              hmm
16:13 oleonard             the example I'm looking at works with 245h and 245b on opac-detail
16:13 nengard              the example i have is on my local machine
16:13 nengard              oleonard sekjal is looking into it
16:12 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5305 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Resorting results of CCL queries fails in Staff Client
16:12 * druthb             is about to toss anohter one-liner over the wall, for Bug 5305.
16:12 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5933 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Keyword to Marc mapping not working in opac
16:12 oleonard             nengard: Can you give me an example for Bug 5933
16:12 druthb               thanx, wizzyrea.
16:11 wizzyrea             druthb++ #for epic 1 liners
16:05 jcamins              colinc++
16:05 huginn               druthb: Karma for "larryb" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5.
16:05 druthb               @karma larryb
16:04 druthb               larryb++
16:02 Raothmist            <3
16:02 larryb               Aw, shucks. Thanks guys.
16:01 nengard              larryb++ for being an awesome new team member
15:59 Raothmist            Ok i�ll make the upgrade and tells you what happend :p
15:58 sekjal               larryb++
15:58 jcamins              larryb++
15:57 jcamins              Raothmist: I use Koha without either.
15:56 Raothmist            and the PDF::API2::Simple
15:56 Raothmist            in fact there's 2 warnings in the makePL the Graphic::Magick
15:55 Raothmist            but the patron images sounds interesting
15:55 Raothmist            um... i generate barcodes in 3.0 without it
15:54 wizzyrea             or generating barcodes (I think)
15:54 wizzyrea             Raothmist: it's only required if you are using patron images
15:54 Raothmist            i can install it later no?
15:54 jcamins              Raothmist: why don't you try it and see if it works.
15:54 Raothmist            uumm... nop i just trying to upgrade from 3.0 to 3.2
15:52 jcamins              Raothmist: did you actually try using Koha without it?
15:51 Raothmist            but the instalation on 3.2 need it O.o
15:50 jcamins              Raothmist: no idea, but Graphics Magick isn't necessary.
15:42 Raothmist            any help there
15:35 Raothmist            i cant install the Graphic::Magick for the 3.2
15:34 pastebot             "Raothmist" at 200.85.69.76 pasted "cpan[18]> install Graphics::Ma" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/193
15:29 druthb               It's only called up in results.tmpl; I could wrap a syspref-based IF around a few little slices of that, and make the whole feature hide away, like the OPAC.
15:26 druthb               hm
15:25 oleonard             druthb: I'm not aware of a way to use custom js to prevent the function from running
15:25 druthb               when there's a lot of "and" and "the" on the page, and it's trying to highlight them, yah.
15:24 oleonard             Wow, that's got to be a lot of terms
15:24 druthb               changing the style doesn't fix that.
15:24 druthb               I tried that...the problem is, when you have a seriously large number of terms, as in a series title, it causes the highlight script to time out, throwing an error.  That's the real problem.
15:24 Raothmist            Hello!!!
15:23 oleonard             But that would break the highlight on demand option
15:23 oleonard             You could nuke the highlight with a custom style (set the background color to none and the font color to black)
15:22 druthb               I wouldn't mind  them being *able* to, I just want it off-by-default.
15:22 oleonard             druthb: Do you want it disabled, or do you want them to be able to highlight if they want to?
15:22 druthb               oleonard, you're soooo helpful!  :P
15:22 druthb               hmpf.
15:20 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5839 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add mapping for items.stocknumber to MARC21
15:20 kf_mtg               bug 5839
15:20 kf_mtg               jcamins: could you take a look at marcelr's comment on the stocknumber issue?
15:20 kf_mtg               *sighs*
15:20 kf_mtg               he is not even here.
15:20 kf_mtg               gna
15:19 kf_mtg               marcelr: I have been in an inhouse training all day and already on the jump, will try to look at your comments more closely later tonight
15:19 oleonard             druthb: Develop a corresponding preference for the staff client so it can be turned off? :)
15:18 kf_mtg               marcelr: that seemed like the proper description to me
15:18 kf_mtg               marcelr: I wondered about the naming too - I think inventory number sounds better. the stock number attribute description indicated it's a number used for ordering, while the attribute I picked is a number given during acquisition
15:15 druthb               Okay...some clever-er-than-me-jQuery-ist:  How to turn off the highlighting in the staff client, by default?
15:08 tcohen               magnuse, i've snet a patch for the z39.50 issue
15:06 wizzyrea             6006 done, but had to set back to another branch so the peeps could check something else
15:06 jcamins              I think my feeling is that there could certainly be improvements in the analytics handling (and it's on my to-do list), but kf's patch gets us a good deal further than we were (and much farther than any other ILS I've used!).
15:05 marcelr              ok we ll see later thanks
15:05 jcamins              marcelr: on my to-do list is looking over the revised code from Amit and Savitra.
15:04 marcelr              jcamins: could we ask the india developer about it that worked on analytics?
15:02 marcelr              am not sure abou it yet
15:02 wizzyrea             hehe yea
15:02 jcamins              (you're probably right... my former employer did some kind of weird things with analytic records)
15:01 jcamins              marcelr: what are you thinking it should do?
15:01 oleonard             That one is going to be great in a year with no context :)
15:01 huginn               wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #122 added.
15:01 wizzyrea             @quote add <member:oleonard>Everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver
15:00 wizzyrea             s/munin/huginn
15:00 huginn               wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
15:00 wizzyrea             @quote get 23
15:00 jcamins              marcelr: it is for the data I used.
15:00 jwagner              I was set up OK with munin
15:00 jwagner              Someone remind me how to identify to huginn?
15:00 marcelr              jcamins: the link works fine but is it always appropriate info>?
14:59 huginn               druthb: Quote #25: "<wizzyrea> ha, in #koha we don't pick each other's brains... we git pull them." (added by gmcharlt at 07:40 PM, August 14, 2009)
14:59 druthb               @quote random
14:59 jwagner              Harrumph.
14:59 huginn               jwagner: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
14:59 jwagner              @quote add <oleonard>	Everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver
14:59 marcelr              serial item and mono item should share an item
14:59 jcamins              It worked properly when I tested it.
14:58 jcamins              Hm.
14:58 marcelr              thought that analytical recs have other meaning
14:57 jcamins              *Are you still seeing problems?
14:57 marcelr              for a serial now points to all records with rcn = that serial id
14:57 jcamins              a
14:57 jcamins              It seems to.
14:57 marcelr              wondering if it works correctly now?
14:56 jcamins              marcelr: What do you mean?
14:56 oleonard             Alternatively: Whoa, that dude just tried to do a triple cracked out kitty tail shiver and totally wiped out! It was awesome!
14:56 marcelr              jcamins: hi, did you also look at the analytical part of patch 5959?
14:56 oleonard             Everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver
14:55 druthb               Mine does that, too.
14:55 * wizzyrea           wonders if only my cat does that
14:55 wizzyrea             jcamins: does myshkin do the cracked out kitty tail shiver?
14:54 jcamins              oleonard: Myshkin is more than articulate enough without me performing his interior monologue.
14:53 * oleonard           must be losing it, tried to tab-complete Myshkin's name
14:52 * oleonard           wonders if jcamins performs myshkin's interior monologue out loud using a little kitty voice
14:52 jcamins              He took that as an indication you were going to give him more dry food.
14:52 * jwagner            offers a greeting more in tune with a feline's sense of status: Greetings, oh respected household diety
14:49 * wizzyrea           is the proud owner of a palindrome bug
14:48 wizzyrea             yea, that was for 6006
14:48 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6006 enhancement, P5, ---, wizzyrea, NEW, Move location from current location to home library column on detail.pl
14:48 oleonard             Was that Bug 6006 wizzyrea? That's a good call too.
14:39 wizzyrea             good call
14:39 oleonard             File a bug, assign to yourself.
14:39 wizzyrea             but I feel I must stay on task!
14:38 wizzyrea             arg, I just spotted something that I may have to fix rightnow.
14:37 wizzyrea             haha
14:37 jcamins              And I even gave him is own glass of water.
14:37 jcamins              But, I fill Myshkin's bowl out of my glass!
14:37 wizzyrea             hehe
14:36 oleonard             My cat would always do that with my wife's water. Proof, according to my wife, that the cat was jealous of her and wanted me for her own.
14:36 wizzyrea             (it's why they like the toilet too)
14:36 wizzyrea             and probably icy coldQ
14:36 wizzyrea             it's fresher than the water in her bowl!
14:36 wizzyrea             :) you have a tricksy cat
14:31 jcamins              My cat has decided to start drinking my water.
14:19 magnuse              gmcharlt: thanks. that makes sense
14:19 tcohen               ok
14:19 gmcharlt             tcohen: no, records
14:19 tcohen               gmcharlt: index definition for example?
14:18 gmcharlt             that's the main purpose
14:18 gmcharlt             magnuse: yes, there are some extend services that Zebra has that can allow updates via Z39.50
14:18 magnuse              tcohen: i must admit i never figured out what the password was for, maybe for changing the databse?
14:15 tcohen               i guess the password doesn't prevent people from searching (just tested on 2.0.43)
14:13 tcohen               i'll send a patch for that, and was asking myself what was the best as default
14:13 magnuse              sorry, tcohen, are you asking if it is by default, or if it is a good idea to make it pass protected?
14:11 tcohen               magnuse: should publicserver be pass protected in a default install?
14:07 wizzyrea             ty
14:07 wizzyrea             yay ok
14:07 oleonard             Yes
14:07 pastebot             "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "proposed fix for transit" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/192
14:07 wizzyrea             i'm a nub... like so?
14:05 wizzyrea             k
14:05 magnuse              tcohen: no problem!
14:04 tcohen               magnuse: thanks so much, muchas gracias
14:04 oleonard             I would put the print() and close() inside a function and call that from the onload()
14:01 wizzyrea             which is the one we should keep?
14:01 pastebot             "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "the two window.print" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/191
14:00 oleonard             No, having two doesn't make any sense
14:00 * wizzyrea           sees two
14:00 wizzyrea             there shouldn't be two window.print() requests in the transit slip, right?
13:59 oleonard             Yes
13:59 wizzyrea             ?
13:59 wizzyrea             oleonard: about
13:56 tcohen               because of a trivial hardcoded path....
13:56 tcohen               sure, something similar happened to OAI access that didn't work on standard install....
13:55 magnuse              tcohen: agreed, guess no one has gotten round to fixing it... maybe there are few of us who actually turn z39.50 on?
13:53 wizzyrea             it's to keep sites from popping up message after message
13:53 wizzyrea             ah, I see the purpose of it though
13:53 tcohen               magnuse: damn, that's one of those things I don't understand of koha, that section is missing since 3.0 at least!
13:52 * wizzyrea           investigates how to turn that off
13:52 wizzyrea             yep, every time you try to print a slip
13:52 wizzyrea             I think it comes back every time... let me check
13:52 wizzyrea             it doesn't seem to happen on the other slips, just on the transit slip
13:51 jcamins              Thanks!
13:51 gmcharlt             the "prevent this page from creating additional dialogs" bit is new in FF4, I believe
13:50 wizzyrea             can anyone duplicate this in FF4: when printing a transit slip, a message comes up "prevent this page from creating additional dialogs (ok) (cancel)"
13:50 wizzyrea             interesting
13:49 gmcharlt             if it's just a working branch, i.e., not published, you could do a git rebase -i to make the patch go away from the wrong branch
13:48 jcamins              It says "Automatic revert failed."
13:48 tcohen               too
13:48 tcohen               magnuse: that's it, it's missing in 3.0.6
13:48 jcamins              So I tried git revert, and it didn't like that.
13:47 jcamins              And I need to amend the previous patch.
13:47 jcamins              I accidentally applied a patch to the wrong branch.
13:47 gmcharlt             ?
13:47 jcamins              Help!
13:47 jcamins              gmcharlt: (or anyone) I just broke git.
13:47 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5667 minor, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, koha-conf.xml missing entry for z39.50 publicserver
13:47 magnuse              tcohen: and did you copy and paste a lot of stuff from koha-conf.xml, as described in bug 5667?
13:46 tcohen               jcamins: of course, is there a publicserver specific config section?
13:45 jwagner              sekjal, I've never even looked at that -- sounds like an interesting possibility
13:45 sekjal               perhaps that could be exploited for wider application
13:45 jcamins              tcohen: you'll have to change the port to 7090, then.
13:45 sekjal               to bring in data from anywhere in the record
13:44 sekjal               magnuse / jwagner :  I was always impressed by the flexibility of the ISBD parser
13:44 tcohen               <listen id="publicserver" >tcp:@:7090</listen>
13:44 tcohen               yeap
13:43 magnuse              did you enable publicserver in koha-conf.xml?
13:42 magnuse              tcohen: i think that is a problem with your config
13:42 tcohen               (that's in the browser, on z39.50 search from koha I get no results)
13:42 tcohen               Description: Not Found
13:42 tcohen               Error: 404
13:42 tcohen               YAZ 4.0.10
13:41 magnuse              tcohen: what do you see? an error?
13:41 tcohen               magnuse: no results...
13:41 gmcharlt             jcamins: thx
13:41 jcamins              Okay, here's a question: if I am testing a patch, and it seems to work, but I see an error, do I write a follow-up patch, or do I amend the commit?
13:40 magnuse              if you chose the default port
13:40 magnuse              tcohen: example.com:9999/biblios
13:39 jwagner              Sounds good!
13:39 magnuse              jwagner: i can see a series of sysprefs for placing html below the items, above the items etc, all powered by the same code for getting the variables...
13:38 jcamins              cait++
13:38 jcamins              Nice!
13:38 tcohen               what 'database' should I use to access a koha's publicserver (z39.50)?
13:38 oleonard             The first example in 4040 seems to be fixed now in master
13:36 jcamins              gmcharlt: if you need a sign-off on the updated frameworks, just give me a shout.
13:36 jwagner              I was just thinking if there was a way to write the feature so that the variables are available anywhere, then later features (or maybe jquery?) could make use of them in other places, instead of having to replicate them.
13:35 magnuse              jwagner: i agree completely, but my client specifically asked for the "my summary" stuff, so i guess i'll concentrate on that first and see how faar i get...
13:34 druthb               I'll make a note in 4040, and xref to 6004.
13:33 oleonard             Great news druthb
13:32 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4040 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Checking in an already confirmed on-hold item results in duplicate dialogs
13:32 druthb               oleonard: only the last case in Bug 4040 is not fixed, either by code having moved some since it was filed, or by my patch for 6004.  The rest all appear to work correctly with this change.
13:29 jwagner              ...List, or other places.
13:29 jwagner              magnuse, I think there could be wider application -- one of the problems I had with OPAC SearchForTitleIn is that the variables are only available if you're in that tiny piece of the page.  I'd like to see some variables that are available anywhere on any record display or wherever a biblionumber is referenced.  I think people might want to put e.g. Facebook links on a title display, or a...
13:16 magnuse              sekjal: cool!
13:16 sekjal               magnuse: I was just looking at that for one our libraries... hacked it together with extra HTML in the OPACSearchForTitleIn (to close the divs and such), but this is much better
13:14 magnuse              ok, will do, thanks!
13:13 oleonard             I would put it under the OPAC category for sure.
13:12 oleonard             That sounds fine to me.
13:12 magnuse              hm, i was thinking maybe OPACMySummaryHTML, since that is the exact location?
13:12 oleonard             magnuse: OpacUserCustomHTML?
13:11 * tcohen             is dreaming of zebraqueue_daemon making it into 3.4
13:10 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5671 enhancement, P5, ---, magnus, NEW, Add a column of custom HTML to "my summary"
13:10 magnuse              anyone got an opinion on a name and category for the syspref in Bug 5671?
13:09 druthb               I'll test to see if my one-liner for 6004 fixes some of this;  it might.
13:08 druthb               The current behavior is very similar, only it's showing both messages at the same time.
13:08 oleonard             Make sure the symptoms seem the same. I did quite a bit of research on 4040.
13:07 druthb               well, foo.  I searched, but didn't find that one.
13:07 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4040 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Checking in an already confirmed on-hold item results in duplicate dialogs
13:07 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6004 minor, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, checking in an item that needs to be transferred home, and is on-hold for a patron, causes dual transfer message box
13:07 oleonard             druthb: Re: Bug 6004, please see also Bug 4040
12:57 jwagner              Ah.  I could see it under Tools, Log Viewer, but that didn't give me the full syntax.
12:56 gmcharlt             jwagner: it's a table by that name in the database
12:47 jwagner              They don't seem to be under koha-dev/var/log
12:46 jwagner              gmcharlt, just for the sake of curiosity, where are the action_logs
12:46 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5988 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, SearchMyLibraryFirst preference appears twice in english opac.pref file
12:46 oleonard             Right jwagner, because of Bug 5988.
12:46 jwagner              Turning off the masthead syspref doesn't make any difference now to the search first one -- changing the settings still only gets a value of , or 1,1
12:45 jcamins              :)
12:45 * gmcharlt           whistles innocently
12:45 gmcharlt             not that I'm speaking from experience or anything
12:45 gmcharlt             this can, on occassion, be a time-saver
12:45 gmcharlt             jcamins: re backing up system preferences in general - always a good idea, but also note that changes are (by default) log to action_logs
12:43 jwagner              Setting it back to Don't Limit makes the value be 1,1
12:42 jwagner              Now when I look in the systempreferences table for that variable, there is only one result (although i see two in the syspref editor), and the value is ,
12:42 oleonard             When I looked in mysql the value for the SearchMyLibraryFirst variable was "1,1"
12:41 jcamins              If you send a patch, I'll sign off.
12:41 jcamins              Yeah, I imagine.
12:41 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5988 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, SearchMyLibraryFirst preference appears twice in english opac.pref file
12:41 oleonard             I'm assuming this is because of Bug 5988
12:41 jwagner              Too late now :-)  With the pulldown on, I set the search library to limit (which worked), then back to don't limit, which is now defaulting to the branch library instead of all
12:40 jcamins              *then* do that.
12:39 jcamins              Back up your systempreferences table.
12:39 oleonard             jwagner: Probably because you haven't touched the pref recently
12:39 jcamins              Don't do that.
12:39 jcamins              Wait!
12:39 jcamins              Then try turning it off.
12:39 jcamins              jwagner: try turning on SearchMyLibraryFirst.
12:39 jwagner              jcamins, what do you mean?  I have the OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown on and the SearchMyLibraryFirst off, and it works properly.
12:38 jcamins              The problem is that you can't change SearchMyLibraryFirst to "Don't allow" anymore.
12:38 jcamins              Ah-ha!
12:37 jcamins              Yeah, but I just tried with it turned off, too.
12:37 oleonard             So you have OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown turned on
12:36 oleonard             Yeah, I filed a bug for that yesterday
12:36 jcamins              There are two copies of SearchMyLibraryFirst.
12:36 jcamins              Weird.
12:36 jcamins              I have a dropdown for choosing.
12:35 jcamins              No.
12:35 oleonard             In your OPAC's main search bar do you see "Search (in [your branch] only)" as the search form label?
12:35 jcamins              oleonard: okay, how can I reproduce the problem you're having?
12:34 jcamins              Branch.
12:34 oleonard             What kind of limits does it override?
12:34 jcamins              You set it as an environment variable in your VirtualHosts.
12:33 jcamins              It's used for overriding the search limits for individual OPACs.
12:32 oleonard             Okay, but don't leave me in the dark
12:32 jcamins              oleonard: I'll take that as a no. ;)
12:32 oleonard             jcamins: I don't know what that is
12:31 jcamins              Just to confirm- you don't have OPAC_LIMIT_OVERRIDE set, right?
12:31 hdl                  oleonard we had that problem with the new preference system. You could / should check the value in the database and how C4::Boolean is considering that value
12:30 oleonard_            Symtom: I see the "Search (in [my branch] only)" label in the OPAC now
12:30 jcamins              oleonard_: I'll check.
12:28 oleonard_            Can anyone confirm?
12:28 oleonard_            I thought this was a T:T problem, but now I'm in master and it looks like the SearchMyLibraryFirst option is in effect even with the pref off
12:22 tcohen               and i've found that to be the best approach
12:22 tcohen               one was dependant on the other, thou
12:22 tcohen               as the patches for the latter include what is needed to fix the first
12:21 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Refactor rebuild_zebra.pl into a library
12:21 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5165 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Rewrite zebraqueue scripts to use rebuild_zebra.pl
12:21 tcohen               i've just marked bug 5165 as duplicate of bug 5166
12:20 tcohen               hi #koha
12:05 francharb            hi all
11:55 jcamins_away         savitra++
11:52 larryb               G'morning all.
11:52 JesseM               hi nengard
11:52 nengard              morning JesseM
11:31 JesseM               G' Morning #Koha
10:46 magnuse              o/
08:53 rangi                just fixed some bugs for TT too
08:30 magnuse              woohoo
08:19 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5548 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Hard Due Dates Circ Rule
08:19 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5547 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, A "hidelostitems" option for the staff client
08:19 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5708 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Incorrect Discount applied to rental charge at checkout
08:19 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5982 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, OPAC : Serials changing some wording on opac-detail.tmpl
08:19 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5972 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, DisplayClearScreenButton preference introduces invalid markup
08:19 jenkins_koha         * Chris Cormack: Bug 5548 bumping db version number
08:19 jenkins_koha         * Ian Walls: Bug 5548: Hard Due Dates Circ Rule
08:19 jenkins_koha         * Chris Cormack: Bug 5547 : Bumping db version
08:19 jenkins_koha         * Ian Walls: Bug 5547: Hide Lost Items dev
08:19 jenkins_koha         * Colin Campbell: Bug 5708 : Get Correct Discount when levying rentalcharge
08:19 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5971 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Minor markup error in holds queue report
08:19 jenkins_koha         * Paul Poulain: Bug 5982 : OPAC Serials Minor change in description
08:19 jenkins_koha         * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5972 - DisplayClearScreenButton preference introduces invalid markup
08:19 jenkins_koha         * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5971, Minor markup error in holds queue report
08:19 jenkins_koha         Project Koha_master build #89: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/89/
07:39 jenkins_koha         Starting build 89 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:39 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4393 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Searching with scan indexes and sort by title fails
07:39 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5964 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, aqbudgets.tmpl contains untranslatable fields
07:39 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5940 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, Update Help Files for 3.4
07:39 jenkins_koha         * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 4393: Scan Indexes results cannot be sorted
07:39 jenkins_koha         * Henri-Damien LAURENT: Bug 5964 : Translation problem on aqbudgets.tmpl
07:39 jenkins_koha         * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 5940: Acq and Suggestion Help Files for 3.4
07:39 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5687 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED, Add preference for display of AuthorisedValueImages at staff search results
07:39 jenkins_koha         * Chris Cormack: Bug 5687 : Bumping database version
07:39 jenkins_koha         * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5687: Add pref StaffAuthorisedValueImages for staff search results (install)
07:39 jenkins_koha         * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5687: Add pref StaffAuthorisedValueImages for staff search results
07:39 jenkins_koha         Project Koha_master build #88: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/88/
07:39 huginn               New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5548 bumping db version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=223436970b44098b97679fc6e696b88eb74f2db3> / Bug 5548: Hard Due Dates Circ Rule <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e57dadf762101cfb7371c3d2c93e8163a2ace69f>
07:29 huginn               New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5547 : Bumping db version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1760e84630912b01c53559d3fc4eeb5a80325f3> / Bug 5547: Hide Lost Items dev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=48ee1dcb3f835fb8250bcdd781085521411e6c26>
07:26 magnuse              ok, thanks rangi
07:26 kf                   good morning all
07:25 rangi                if you want to fix them, that would be good, if not, thats fine too
07:24 magnuse              i'm getting some whitespace errors when i rebase, should i do anything about them or just ignore?
07:24 rangi                yep
07:24 magnuse              sounds like you will not run out of things to do, then...
07:23 magnuse              patches that need bugs?
07:21 rangi                i still have about 100 more patches to do tomorrow and friday
07:21 rangi                yep
07:21 magnuse              and we passed 6000 bugs!
07:19 magnuse              well, i suspect that's not the case in every house... ;-)
07:16 rangi                in my house, it gets you a timeout
07:16 rangi                it does?
07:14 magnuse              heh - because it works in other walks of life? ;-)
07:13 rangi                *sigh* why do people think that posting the same thing to a mailing list again and again will actually work
07:09 huginn               New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5708 : Get Correct Discount when levying rentalcharge <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88cb47339a8eab4ff4b95956207bf2d1dcdffeff> / Bug 5982 : OPAC Serials Minor change in description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=268f860e24171f3c5fe5f4b2c4a752e7c5abd5c1> / Fix for Bug 5972 - DisplayClearScreenButton preference introduces invalid markup <http://git.koha-c
07:07 rangi                hi julian
07:01 julian               hello #koha
07:00 jenkins_koha         Starting build 88 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:59 huginn               New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4393: Scan Indexes results cannot be sorted <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51604b548756fbf74620061a779d0182167c36f3> / Bug 5964 : Translation problem on aqbudgets.tmpl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=813f5c3f5164707041fcaa90839f4368355eb8e9> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5940' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdi
06:42 cait                 ok, time for work
06:38 magnuse              guten morgen cait & #koha
06:38 cait                 morning magnuse :)
06:36 rangi                ah right
06:30 cait                 and missing ccl.properties was his first idea
06:29 cait                 I thought I had copied all 3 files to koha-dev.... but seems I did only 2 and missed ccl.properties
06:29 rangi                what was causing it?
06:28 cait                 because he was so right about my search index problem
06:28 cait                 jcamins++
06:22 cait                 hi rangi
06:21 rangi                evening
06:16 cait                 we are not far from that
06:06 space_librarian_home we've had a stunning day in wellington. Lunch in the sun, even. :)
06:01 cait                 my search index is still broken :(
05:49 cait                 it's still early here - think we will get another nice spring day
05:49 bg                   heh - been racking up wins all day rangi
05:49 huginn               bg: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (6:00 PM NZDT on March 30, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
05:49 bg                   @wunder wellington, nz
05:48 bg                   yeah that's weird for 11pm (23:00)
05:48 huginn               cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.5�C (7:45 AM CEST on March 30, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady).
05:48 cait                 @wunder Konstanz
05:48 huginn               bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.2�C (10:48 PM PDT on March 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising).  Wind Advisory in effect until 8 am PDT Wednesday... 
05:48 bg                   @wunder 93109
05:48 bg                   kind of feels warm out tonight
05:47 bg                   putting off work :)
05:47 bg                   ok
05:47 cait                 how are you?
05:46 cait                 trying to get some things done before chris' deadline on april 1st
05:46 cait                 things are good
05:46 bg                   cait what's happening - how's things
05:38 cait                 hi bg and space_librarian :)
05:37 bg                   heya cait
05:33 space_librarian_home evening cait! :)
05:33 cait                 morning #koha
04:37 rangi                heh
04:36 bg                   smells nice on this side of the keyboard
04:36 bg                   heh - sorry about that
04:36 rangi                gah stinky bus today
04:29 space_librarian      I remember when he first started as a 16 year old... and he always performs brilliantly under the spotlight.
04:28 bg                   yeah he should - it's the big stage now
04:28 bg                   one of my friends got a picture with him like 8 years ago - I've still got that kicking around somewhere
04:27 space_librarian      bg: nice. You think he'll hit a ton tonight?
04:21 bg                   http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=110329/Cricket
04:18 bg                   :)
04:05 sekjal               at last
04:04 sekjal               got a circulation to run through the profiler
03:52 AmitG                heya bg
03:51 bg                   heya AmitG
03:41 AmitG                i mean to say WC is in asia
03:39 space_librarian      Your thoughts?
03:39 space_librarian      Asia is the winner on the day.
03:37 AmitG                Asia
03:37 space_librarian      which works...
03:37 AmitG                India-SL-Pak
03:37 AmitG                now the fight between three asian country for WC
03:37 AmitG                hmmm
03:36 space_librarian      If it's PAK-SL, then SL, if it's India-SL, I think India could do it at home, for the Master.
03:36 AmitG                space_librarian: what do u think who will win the WC
03:35 AmitG                yes
03:35 space_librarian      Pakistan is just too erratic
03:35 AmitG                pakistan bowling is good but batting is not so good
03:35 AmitG                hmmm
03:34 space_librarian      they'll win
03:34 space_librarian      I'd say if they get 250
03:34 AmitG                If india scored 300 plus they will definitely  win
03:34 sekjal               ugh.  cannot get a successful checkout from the commandline.  got the sessions/IP thing resolved, I think, but still a mostly-dataless page back
03:33 AmitG                rangi: Sachin total century 99
03:33 space_librarian      This will be a great game. Enjoy watching it.
03:33 AmitG                hmmm
03:33 space_librarian      I think India has a good chance, if they can get the runs on the board, and Kamran Akmal is at his usual stellar best.
03:33 rangi                excellent
03:33 AmitG                India vs Pak
03:33 AmitG                sure
03:33 AmitG                yes
03:33 rangi                so you can go watch?
03:32 AmitG                Today i m on half day
03:32 * space_librarian    is not a Ponting fan
03:32 space_librarian      hooray!
03:32 rangi                no personality
03:32 AmitG                Ricky Pointing also resigned
03:31 AmitG                yes i know
03:31 space_librarian      he's resigned, you know.
03:31 AmitG                why chris
03:31 rangi                i hate that guy
03:31 space_librarian      nice
03:31 AmitG                hmmm
03:31 space_librarian      lol
03:31 rangi                or any team graeme smith is in
03:31 AmitG                hmm
03:31 rangi                unless that team is australia
03:31 rangi                i always support the team that beat us
03:31 AmitG                thanx space_librarian
03:31 space_librarian      is*
03:31 space_librarian      We lost the match when Vettori sent us into bat first. Sigh. Now all I have left to support if India!
03:30 AmitG                chris: what do u think u will win the WC
03:30 AmitG                big match
03:30 AmitG                today india vs pakistan
03:30 space_librarian      nooooooooooo! Don't mention the cricket!
03:30 rangi                badly
03:30 AmitG                yesterday NZ loose the match
03:29 AmitG                why?
03:29 AmitG                haaa
03:29 rangi                dont mention the cricket :)
03:28 rangi                heya AmitG
03:27 AmitG                heya chris
02:44 gmcharlt             sekjal: it's just a couple checks in C4/Auth.pm that could be comment out for the sake of testing
02:31 sekjal               hmmm
02:31 sekjal               apparently the IP from my browser is not matching my IP from the cl
02:20 sekjal               where there you go
02:20 rangi                does exactly that
02:20 rangi                he sent to koha-devel yesterday or day before
02:20 rangi                did you see mike hafens bash script
02:19 sekjal               how could I fake a session from the commandline?
02:19 sekjal               "This item belongs to and cannot be issued from this location."
02:19 sekjal               trying to profile circ/circulation.pl with NYTProf, but running that page with 'insecure' set in the sysprefs gives me a circulation error
02:14 eythian              ah right
02:13 rangi                to use for dvd rentals et al
02:13 rangi                get $25 of credit
02:13 rangi                you pay $20
02:13 rangi                yeah hlt do that
02:03 mtj                  yeah, its pretty common usage for public-libs. me thinks...
02:03 eythian              ah right, that makes sense.
02:02 mtj                  i have some public libraries, that allow $10 bux credit to be loaded on an patron account, etc
02:02 eythian              But didn't expect that to happen.
02:02 eythian              I was hoping everyone would say "no, that never happens, ever, ignore it as a possibility."
02:01 eythian              OK cool
02:01 mtj                  yes
02:00 eythian              hypothetically, say I were rewriting the Koha accounts system, is it worthwhile allowing the borrower to go into credit?
01:31 huginn               bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.9�C (6:32 PM PDT on March 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Rising).  Wind Advisory in effect until 8 am PDT Wednesday... 
01:31 bg                   @wunder 93109
00:25 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3629 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, search limit by group is not OK
00:25 jenkins_koha         Paul Poulain: Bug 3629 : search limit by group is not OK
00:25 jenkins_koha         Project Koha_master build #87: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/87/