Time Nick Message 00:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #87: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/87/ 00:25 jenkins_koha Paul Poulain: Bug 3629 : search limit by group is not OK 00:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3629 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, search limit by group is not OK 01:31 bg @wunder 93109 01:31 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.9�C (6:32 PM PDT on March 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 8 am PDT Wednesday... 02:00 eythian hypothetically, say I were rewriting the Koha accounts system, is it worthwhile allowing the borrower to go into credit? 02:01 mtj yes 02:01 eythian OK cool 02:02 eythian I was hoping everyone would say "no, that never happens, ever, ignore it as a possibility." 02:02 eythian But didn't expect that to happen. 02:02 mtj i have some public libraries, that allow $10 bux credit to be loaded on an patron account, etc 02:03 eythian ah right, that makes sense. 02:03 mtj yeah, its pretty common usage for public-libs. me thinks... 02:13 rangi yeah hlt do that 02:13 rangi you pay $20 02:13 rangi get $25 of credit 02:13 rangi to use for dvd rentals et al 02:14 eythian ah right 02:19 sekjal trying to profile circ/circulation.pl with NYTProf, but running that page with 'insecure' set in the sysprefs gives me a circulation error 02:19 sekjal "This item belongs to and cannot be issued from this location." 02:19 sekjal how could I fake a session from the commandline? 02:20 rangi did you see mike hafens bash script 02:20 rangi he sent to koha-devel yesterday or day before 02:20 rangi does exactly that 02:20 sekjal where there you go 02:31 sekjal apparently the IP from my browser is not matching my IP from the cl 02:31 sekjal hmmm 02:44 gmcharlt sekjal: it's just a couple checks in C4/Auth.pm that could be comment out for the sake of testing 03:27 AmitG heya chris 03:28 rangi heya AmitG 03:29 rangi dont mention the cricket :) 03:29 AmitG haaa 03:29 AmitG why? 03:30 AmitG yesterday NZ loose the match 03:30 rangi badly 03:30 space_librarian nooooooooooo! Don't mention the cricket! 03:30 AmitG today india vs pakistan 03:30 AmitG big match 03:30 AmitG chris: what do u think u will win the WC 03:31 space_librarian We lost the match when Vettori sent us into bat first. Sigh. Now all I have left to support if India! 03:31 space_librarian is* 03:31 AmitG thanx space_librarian 03:31 rangi i always support the team that beat us 03:31 rangi unless that team is australia 03:31 AmitG hmm 03:31 rangi or any team graeme smith is in 03:31 space_librarian lol 03:31 AmitG hmmm 03:31 space_librarian nice 03:31 rangi i hate that guy 03:31 AmitG why chris 03:31 space_librarian he's resigned, you know. 03:31 AmitG yes i know 03:32 AmitG Ricky Pointing also resigned 03:32 rangi no personality 03:32 space_librarian hooray! 03:32 * space_librarian is not a Ponting fan 03:32 AmitG Today i m on half day 03:33 rangi so you can go watch? 03:33 AmitG yes 03:33 AmitG sure 03:33 AmitG India vs Pak 03:33 rangi excellent 03:33 space_librarian I think India has a good chance, if they can get the runs on the board, and Kamran Akmal is at his usual stellar best. 03:33 AmitG hmmm 03:33 space_librarian This will be a great game. Enjoy watching it. 03:33 AmitG rangi: Sachin total century 99 03:34 sekjal ugh. cannot get a successful checkout from the commandline. got the sessions/IP thing resolved, I think, but still a mostly-dataless page back 03:34 AmitG If india scored 300 plus they will definitely win 03:34 space_librarian I'd say if they get 250 03:34 space_librarian they'll win 03:35 AmitG hmmm 03:35 AmitG pakistan bowling is good but batting is not so good 03:35 space_librarian Pakistan is just too erratic 03:35 AmitG yes 03:36 AmitG space_librarian: what do u think who will win the WC 03:36 space_librarian If it's PAK-SL, then SL, if it's India-SL, I think India could do it at home, for the Master. 03:37 AmitG hmmm 03:37 AmitG now the fight between three asian country for WC 03:37 AmitG India-SL-Pak 03:37 space_librarian which works... 03:37 AmitG Asia 03:39 space_librarian Asia is the winner on the day. 03:39 space_librarian Your thoughts? 03:41 AmitG i mean to say WC is in asia 03:51 bg heya AmitG 03:52 AmitG heya bg 04:04 sekjal got a circulation to run through the profiler 04:05 sekjal at last 04:18 bg :) 04:21 bg http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=110329/Cricket 04:27 space_librarian bg: nice. You think he'll hit a ton tonight? 04:28 bg one of my friends got a picture with him like 8 years ago - I've still got that kicking around somewhere 04:28 bg yeah he should - it's the big stage now 04:29 space_librarian I remember when he first started as a 16 year old... and he always performs brilliantly under the spotlight. 04:36 rangi gah stinky bus today 04:36 bg heh - sorry about that 04:36 bg smells nice on this side of the keyboard 04:37 rangi heh 05:33 cait morning #koha 05:33 space_librarian_home evening cait! :) 05:37 bg heya cait 05:38 cait hi bg and space_librarian :) 05:46 bg cait what's happening - how's things 05:46 cait things are good 05:46 cait trying to get some things done before chris' deadline on april 1st 05:47 cait how are you? 05:47 bg ok 05:47 bg putting off work :) 05:48 bg kind of feels warm out tonight 05:48 bg @wunder 93109 05:48 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.2�C (10:48 PM PDT on March 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 8 am PDT Wednesday... 05:48 cait @wunder Konstanz 05:48 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.5�C (7:45 AM CEST on March 30, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady). 05:48 bg yeah that's weird for 11pm (23:00) 05:49 bg @wunder wellington, nz 05:49 huginn bg: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (6:00 PM NZDT on March 30, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 05:49 bg heh - been racking up wins all day rangi 05:49 cait it's still early here - think we will get another nice spring day 06:01 cait my search index is still broken :( 06:06 space_librarian_home we've had a stunning day in wellington. Lunch in the sun, even. :) 06:16 cait we are not far from that 06:21 rangi evening 06:22 cait hi rangi 06:28 cait jcamins++ 06:28 cait because he was so right about my search index problem 06:29 rangi what was causing it? 06:29 cait I thought I had copied all 3 files to koha-dev.... but seems I did only 2 and missed ccl.properties 06:30 cait and missing ccl.properties was his first idea 06:36 rangi ah right 06:38 cait morning magnuse :) 06:38 magnuse guten morgen cait & #koha 06:42 cait ok, time for work 06:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4393: Scan Indexes results cannot be sorted <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51604b548756fbf74620061a779d0182167c36f3> / Bug 5964 : Translation problem on aqbudgets.tmpl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=813f5c3f5164707041fcaa90839f4368355eb8e9> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5940' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdi 07:00 jenkins_koha Starting build 88 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 07:01 julian hello #koha 07:07 rangi hi julian 07:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5708 : Get Correct Discount when levying rentalcharge <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88cb47339a8eab4ff4b95956207bf2d1dcdffeff> / Bug 5982 : OPAC Serials Minor change in description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=268f860e24171f3c5fe5f4b2c4a752e7c5abd5c1> / Fix for Bug 5972 - DisplayClearScreenButton preference introduces invalid markup <http://git.koha-c 07:13 rangi *sigh* why do people think that posting the same thing to a mailing list again and again will actually work 07:14 magnuse heh - because it works in other walks of life? ;-) 07:16 rangi it does? 07:16 rangi in my house, it gets you a timeout 07:19 magnuse well, i suspect that's not the case in every house... ;-) 07:21 magnuse and we passed 6000 bugs! 07:21 rangi yep 07:21 rangi i still have about 100 more patches to do tomorrow and friday 07:23 magnuse patches that need bugs? 07:24 magnuse sounds like you will not run out of things to do, then... 07:24 rangi yep 07:24 magnuse i'm getting some whitespace errors when i rebase, should i do anything about them or just ignore? 07:25 rangi if you want to fix them, that would be good, if not, thats fine too 07:26 kf good morning all 07:26 magnuse ok, thanks rangi 07:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5547 : Bumping db version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1760e84630912b01c53559d3fc4eeb5a80325f3> / Bug 5547: Hide Lost Items dev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=48ee1dcb3f835fb8250bcdd781085521411e6c26> 07:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5548 bumping db version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=223436970b44098b97679fc6e696b88eb74f2db3> / Bug 5548: Hard Due Dates Circ Rule <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e57dadf762101cfb7371c3d2c93e8163a2ace69f> 07:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #88: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/88/ 07:39 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5687: Add pref StaffAuthorisedValueImages for staff search results 07:39 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5687: Add pref StaffAuthorisedValueImages for staff search results (install) 07:39 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5687 : Bumping database version 07:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5687 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED, Add preference for display of AuthorisedValueImages at staff search results 07:39 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 5940: Acq and Suggestion Help Files for 3.4 07:39 jenkins_koha * Henri-Damien LAURENT: Bug 5964 : Translation problem on aqbudgets.tmpl 07:39 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 4393: Scan Indexes results cannot be sorted 07:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5940 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, Update Help Files for 3.4 07:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5964 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, aqbudgets.tmpl contains untranslatable fields 07:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4393 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Searching with scan indexes and sort by title fails 07:39 jenkins_koha Starting build 89 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 08:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #89: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/89/ 08:19 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5971, Minor markup error in holds queue report 08:19 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5972 - DisplayClearScreenButton preference introduces invalid markup 08:19 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 5982 : OPAC Serials Minor change in description 08:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5971 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Minor markup error in holds queue report 08:19 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 5708 : Get Correct Discount when levying rentalcharge 08:19 jenkins_koha * Ian Walls: Bug 5547: Hide Lost Items dev 08:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5547 : Bumping db version 08:19 jenkins_koha * Ian Walls: Bug 5548: Hard Due Dates Circ Rule 08:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5548 bumping db version number 08:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5972 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, DisplayClearScreenButton preference introduces invalid markup 08:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5982 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, OPAC : Serials changing some wording on opac-detail.tmpl 08:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5708 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Incorrect Discount applied to rental charge at checkout 08:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5547 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, A "hidelostitems" option for the staff client 08:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5548 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Hard Due Dates Circ Rule 08:30 magnuse woohoo 08:53 rangi just fixed some bugs for TT too 10:46 magnuse o/ 11:31 JesseM G' Morning #Koha 11:52 nengard morning JesseM 11:52 JesseM hi nengard 11:52 larryb G'morning all. 11:55 jcamins_away savitra++ 12:05 francharb hi all 12:20 tcohen hi #koha 12:21 tcohen i've just marked bug 5165 as duplicate of bug 5166 12:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5165 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Rewrite zebraqueue scripts to use rebuild_zebra.pl 12:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Refactor rebuild_zebra.pl into a library 12:22 tcohen as the patches for the latter include what is needed to fix the first 12:22 tcohen one was dependant on the other, thou 12:22 tcohen and i've found that to be the best approach 12:28 oleonard_ I thought this was a T:T problem, but now I'm in master and it looks like the SearchMyLibraryFirst option is in effect even with the pref off 12:28 oleonard_ Can anyone confirm? 12:30 jcamins oleonard_: I'll check. 12:30 oleonard_ Symtom: I see the "Search (in [my branch] only)" label in the OPAC now 12:31 hdl oleonard we had that problem with the new preference system. You could / should check the value in the database and how C4::Boolean is considering that value 12:31 jcamins Just to confirm- you don't have OPAC_LIMIT_OVERRIDE set, right? 12:32 oleonard jcamins: I don't know what that is 12:32 jcamins oleonard: I'll take that as a no. ;) 12:32 oleonard Okay, but don't leave me in the dark 12:33 jcamins It's used for overriding the search limits for individual OPACs. 12:34 jcamins You set it as an environment variable in your VirtualHosts. 12:34 oleonard What kind of limits does it override? 12:34 jcamins Branch. 12:35 jcamins oleonard: okay, how can I reproduce the problem you're having? 12:35 oleonard In your OPAC's main search bar do you see "Search (in [your branch] only)" as the search form label? 12:35 jcamins No. 12:36 jcamins I have a dropdown for choosing. 12:36 jcamins Weird. 12:36 jcamins There are two copies of SearchMyLibraryFirst. 12:36 oleonard Yeah, I filed a bug for that yesterday 12:37 oleonard So you have OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown turned on 12:37 jcamins Yeah, but I just tried with it turned off, too. 12:38 jcamins Ah-ha! 12:38 jcamins The problem is that you can't change SearchMyLibraryFirst to "Don't allow" anymore. 12:39 jwagner jcamins, what do you mean? I have the OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown on and the SearchMyLibraryFirst off, and it works properly. 12:39 jcamins jwagner: try turning on SearchMyLibraryFirst. 12:39 jcamins Then try turning it off. 12:39 jcamins Wait! 12:39 jcamins Don't do that. 12:39 oleonard jwagner: Probably because you haven't touched the pref recently 12:39 jcamins Back up your systempreferences table. 12:40 jcamins *then* do that. 12:41 jwagner Too late now :-) With the pulldown on, I set the search library to limit (which worked), then back to don't limit, which is now defaulting to the branch library instead of all 12:41 oleonard I'm assuming this is because of Bug 5988 12:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5988 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, SearchMyLibraryFirst preference appears twice in english opac.pref file 12:41 jcamins Yeah, I imagine. 12:41 jcamins If you send a patch, I'll sign off. 12:42 oleonard When I looked in mysql the value for the SearchMyLibraryFirst variable was "1,1" 12:42 jwagner Now when I look in the systempreferences table for that variable, there is only one result (although i see two in the syspref editor), and the value is , 12:43 jwagner Setting it back to Don't Limit makes the value be 1,1 12:45 gmcharlt jcamins: re backing up system preferences in general - always a good idea, but also note that changes are (by default) log to action_logs 12:45 gmcharlt this can, on occassion, be a time-saver 12:45 gmcharlt not that I'm speaking from experience or anything 12:45 * gmcharlt whistles innocently 12:45 jcamins :) 12:46 jwagner Turning off the masthead syspref doesn't make any difference now to the search first one -- changing the settings still only gets a value of , or 1,1 12:46 oleonard Right jwagner, because of Bug 5988. 12:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5988 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, SearchMyLibraryFirst preference appears twice in english opac.pref file 12:46 jwagner gmcharlt, just for the sake of curiosity, where are the action_logs 12:47 jwagner They don't seem to be under koha-dev/var/log 12:56 gmcharlt jwagner: it's a table by that name in the database 12:57 jwagner Ah. I could see it under Tools, Log Viewer, but that didn't give me the full syntax. 13:07 oleonard druthb: Re: Bug 6004, please see also Bug 4040 13:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6004 minor, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, checking in an item that needs to be transferred home, and is on-hold for a patron, causes dual transfer message box 13:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4040 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Checking in an already confirmed on-hold item results in duplicate dialogs 13:07 druthb well, foo. I searched, but didn't find that one. 13:08 oleonard Make sure the symptoms seem the same. I did quite a bit of research on 4040. 13:08 druthb The current behavior is very similar, only it's showing both messages at the same time. 13:09 druthb I'll test to see if my one-liner for 6004 fixes some of this; it might. 13:10 magnuse anyone got an opinion on a name and category for the syspref in Bug 5671? 13:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5671 enhancement, P5, ---, magnus, NEW, Add a column of custom HTML to "my summary" 13:11 * tcohen is dreaming of zebraqueue_daemon making it into 3.4 13:12 oleonard magnuse: OpacUserCustomHTML? 13:12 magnuse hm, i was thinking maybe OPACMySummaryHTML, since that is the exact location? 13:12 oleonard That sounds fine to me. 13:13 oleonard I would put it under the OPAC category for sure. 13:14 magnuse ok, will do, thanks! 13:16 sekjal magnuse: I was just looking at that for one our libraries... hacked it together with extra HTML in the OPACSearchForTitleIn (to close the divs and such), but this is much better 13:16 magnuse sekjal: cool! 13:29 jwagner magnuse, I think there could be wider application -- one of the problems I had with OPAC SearchForTitleIn is that the variables are only available if you're in that tiny piece of the page. I'd like to see some variables that are available anywhere on any record display or wherever a biblionumber is referenced. I think people might want to put e.g. Facebook links on a title display, or a... 13:29 jwagner ...List, or other places. 13:32 druthb oleonard: only the last case in Bug 4040 is not fixed, either by code having moved some since it was filed, or by my patch for 6004. The rest all appear to work correctly with this change. 13:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4040 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Checking in an already confirmed on-hold item results in duplicate dialogs 13:33 oleonard Great news druthb 13:34 druthb I'll make a note in 4040, and xref to 6004. 13:35 magnuse jwagner: i agree completely, but my client specifically asked for the "my summary" stuff, so i guess i'll concentrate on that first and see how faar i get... 13:36 jwagner I was just thinking if there was a way to write the feature so that the variables are available anywhere, then later features (or maybe jquery?) could make use of them in other places, instead of having to replicate them. 13:36 jcamins gmcharlt: if you need a sign-off on the updated frameworks, just give me a shout. 13:38 oleonard The first example in 4040 seems to be fixed now in master 13:38 tcohen what 'database' should I use to access a koha's publicserver (z39.50)? 13:38 jcamins Nice! 13:38 jcamins cait++ 13:39 magnuse jwagner: i can see a series of sysprefs for placing html below the items, above the items etc, all powered by the same code for getting the variables... 13:39 jwagner Sounds good! 13:40 magnuse tcohen: example.com:9999/biblios 13:40 magnuse if you chose the default port 13:41 jcamins Okay, here's a question: if I am testing a patch, and it seems to work, but I see an error, do I write a follow-up patch, or do I amend the commit? 13:41 gmcharlt jcamins: thx 13:41 tcohen magnuse: no results... 13:41 magnuse tcohen: what do you see? an error? 13:42 tcohen YAZ 4.0.10 13:42 tcohen Error: 404 13:42 tcohen Description: Not Found 13:42 tcohen (that's in the browser, on z39.50 search from koha I get no results) 13:42 magnuse tcohen: i think that is a problem with your config 13:43 magnuse did you enable publicserver in koha-conf.xml? 13:44 tcohen yeap 13:44 tcohen <listen id="publicserver" >tcp:@:7090</listen> 13:44 sekjal magnuse / jwagner : I was always impressed by the flexibility of the ISBD parser 13:45 sekjal to bring in data from anywhere in the record 13:45 jcamins tcohen: you'll have to change the port to 7090, then. 13:45 sekjal perhaps that could be exploited for wider application 13:45 jwagner sekjal, I've never even looked at that -- sounds like an interesting possibility 13:46 tcohen jcamins: of course, is there a publicserver specific config section? 13:47 magnuse tcohen: and did you copy and paste a lot of stuff from koha-conf.xml, as described in bug 5667? 13:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5667 minor, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, koha-conf.xml missing entry for z39.50 publicserver 13:47 jcamins gmcharlt: (or anyone) I just broke git. 13:47 jcamins Help! 13:47 gmcharlt ? 13:47 jcamins I accidentally applied a patch to the wrong branch. 13:47 jcamins And I need to amend the previous patch. 13:48 jcamins So I tried git revert, and it didn't like that. 13:48 tcohen magnuse: that's it, it's missing in 3.0.6 13:48 tcohen too 13:48 jcamins It says "Automatic revert failed." 13:49 gmcharlt if it's just a working branch, i.e., not published, you could do a git rebase -i to make the patch go away from the wrong branch 13:50 wizzyrea interesting 13:50 wizzyrea can anyone duplicate this in FF4: when printing a transit slip, a message comes up "prevent this page from creating additional dialogs (ok) (cancel)" 13:51 gmcharlt the "prevent this page from creating additional dialogs" bit is new in FF4, I believe 13:51 jcamins Thanks! 13:52 wizzyrea it doesn't seem to happen on the other slips, just on the transit slip 13:52 wizzyrea I think it comes back every time... let me check 13:52 wizzyrea yep, every time you try to print a slip 13:52 * wizzyrea investigates how to turn that off 13:53 tcohen magnuse: damn, that's one of those things I don't understand of koha, that section is missing since 3.0 at least! 13:53 wizzyrea ah, I see the purpose of it though 13:53 wizzyrea it's to keep sites from popping up message after message 13:55 magnuse tcohen: agreed, guess no one has gotten round to fixing it... maybe there are few of us who actually turn z39.50 on? 13:56 tcohen sure, something similar happened to OAI access that didn't work on standard install.... 13:56 tcohen because of a trivial hardcoded path.... 13:59 wizzyrea oleonard: about 13:59 wizzyrea ? 13:59 oleonard Yes 14:00 wizzyrea there shouldn't be two window.print() requests in the transit slip, right? 14:00 * wizzyrea sees two 14:00 oleonard No, having two doesn't make any sense 14:01 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "the two window.print" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/191 14:01 wizzyrea which is the one we should keep? 14:04 oleonard I would put the print() and close() inside a function and call that from the onload() 14:04 tcohen magnuse: thanks so much, muchas gracias 14:05 magnuse tcohen: no problem! 14:05 wizzyrea k 14:07 wizzyrea i'm a nub... like so? 14:07 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "proposed fix for transit" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/192 14:07 oleonard Yes 14:07 wizzyrea yay ok 14:07 wizzyrea ty 14:11 tcohen magnuse: should publicserver be pass protected in a default install? 14:13 magnuse sorry, tcohen, are you asking if it is by default, or if it is a good idea to make it pass protected? 14:13 tcohen i'll send a patch for that, and was asking myself what was the best as default 14:15 tcohen i guess the password doesn't prevent people from searching (just tested on 2.0.43) 14:18 magnuse tcohen: i must admit i never figured out what the password was for, maybe for changing the databse? 14:18 gmcharlt magnuse: yes, there are some extend services that Zebra has that can allow updates via Z39.50 14:18 gmcharlt that's the main purpose 14:19 tcohen gmcharlt: index definition for example? 14:19 gmcharlt tcohen: no, records 14:19 tcohen ok 14:19 magnuse gmcharlt: thanks. that makes sense 14:31 jcamins My cat has decided to start drinking my water. 14:36 wizzyrea :) you have a tricksy cat 14:36 wizzyrea it's fresher than the water in her bowl! 14:36 wizzyrea and probably icy coldQ 14:36 wizzyrea (it's why they like the toilet too) 14:36 oleonard My cat would always do that with my wife's water. Proof, according to my wife, that the cat was jealous of her and wanted me for her own. 14:37 wizzyrea hehe 14:37 jcamins But, I fill Myshkin's bowl out of my glass! 14:37 jcamins And I even gave him is own glass of water. 14:37 wizzyrea haha 14:38 wizzyrea arg, I just spotted something that I may have to fix rightnow. 14:39 wizzyrea but I feel I must stay on task! 14:39 oleonard File a bug, assign to yourself. 14:39 wizzyrea good call 14:48 oleonard Was that Bug 6006 wizzyrea? That's a good call too. 14:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6006 enhancement, P5, ---, wizzyrea, NEW, Move location from current location to home library column on detail.pl 14:48 wizzyrea yea, that was for 6006 14:49 * wizzyrea is the proud owner of a palindrome bug 14:52 * jwagner offers a greeting more in tune with a feline's sense of status: Greetings, oh respected household diety 14:52 jcamins He took that as an indication you were going to give him more dry food. 14:52 * oleonard wonders if jcamins performs myshkin's interior monologue out loud using a little kitty voice 14:53 * oleonard must be losing it, tried to tab-complete Myshkin's name 14:54 jcamins oleonard: Myshkin is more than articulate enough without me performing his interior monologue. 14:55 wizzyrea jcamins: does myshkin do the cracked out kitty tail shiver? 14:55 * wizzyrea wonders if only my cat does that 14:55 druthb Mine does that, too. 14:56 oleonard Everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver 14:56 marcelr jcamins: hi, did you also look at the analytical part of patch 5959? 14:56 oleonard Alternatively: Whoa, that dude just tried to do a triple cracked out kitty tail shiver and totally wiped out! It was awesome! 14:56 jcamins marcelr: What do you mean? 14:57 marcelr wondering if it works correctly now? 14:57 jcamins It seems to. 14:57 jcamins a 14:57 marcelr for a serial now points to all records with rcn = that serial id 14:57 jcamins *Are you still seeing problems? 14:58 marcelr thought that analytical recs have other meaning 14:58 jcamins Hm. 14:59 jcamins It worked properly when I tested it. 14:59 marcelr serial item and mono item should share an item 14:59 jwagner @quote add <oleonard> Everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver 14:59 huginn jwagner: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 14:59 jwagner Harrumph. 14:59 druthb @quote random 14:59 huginn druthb: Quote #25: "<wizzyrea> ha, in #koha we don't pick each other's brains... we git pull them." (added by gmcharlt at 07:40 PM, August 14, 2009) 15:00 marcelr jcamins: the link works fine but is it always appropriate info>? 15:00 jwagner Someone remind me how to identify to huginn? 15:00 jwagner I was set up OK with munin 15:00 jcamins marcelr: it is for the data I used. 15:00 wizzyrea @quote get 23 15:00 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) 15:00 wizzyrea s/munin/huginn 15:01 wizzyrea @quote add <member:oleonard>Everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver 15:01 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #122 added. 15:01 oleonard That one is going to be great in a year with no context :) 15:01 jcamins marcelr: what are you thinking it should do? 15:02 jcamins (you're probably right... my former employer did some kind of weird things with analytic records) 15:02 wizzyrea hehe yea 15:02 marcelr am not sure abou it yet 15:04 marcelr jcamins: could we ask the india developer about it that worked on analytics? 15:05 jcamins marcelr: on my to-do list is looking over the revised code from Amit and Savitra. 15:05 marcelr ok we ll see later thanks 15:06 jcamins I think my feeling is that there could certainly be improvements in the analytics handling (and it's on my to-do list), but kf's patch gets us a good deal further than we were (and much farther than any other ILS I've used!). 15:06 wizzyrea 6006 done, but had to set back to another branch so the peeps could check something else 15:08 tcohen magnuse, i've snet a patch for the z39.50 issue 15:15 druthb Okay...some clever-er-than-me-jQuery-ist: How to turn off the highlighting in the staff client, by default? 15:18 kf_mtg marcelr: I wondered about the naming too - I think inventory number sounds better. the stock number attribute description indicated it's a number used for ordering, while the attribute I picked is a number given during acquisition 15:18 kf_mtg marcelr: that seemed like the proper description to me 15:19 oleonard druthb: Develop a corresponding preference for the staff client so it can be turned off? :) 15:19 kf_mtg marcelr: I have been in an inhouse training all day and already on the jump, will try to look at your comments more closely later tonight 15:20 kf_mtg gna 15:20 kf_mtg he is not even here. 15:20 kf_mtg *sighs* 15:20 kf_mtg jcamins: could you take a look at marcelr's comment on the stocknumber issue? 15:20 kf_mtg bug 5839 15:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5839 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add mapping for items.stocknumber to MARC21 15:22 druthb hmpf. 15:22 druthb oleonard, you're soooo helpful! :P 15:22 oleonard druthb: Do you want it disabled, or do you want them to be able to highlight if they want to? 15:22 druthb I wouldn't mind them being *able* to, I just want it off-by-default. 15:23 oleonard You could nuke the highlight with a custom style (set the background color to none and the font color to black) 15:23 oleonard But that would break the highlight on demand option 15:24 Raothmist Hello!!! 15:24 druthb I tried that...the problem is, when you have a seriously large number of terms, as in a series title, it causes the highlight script to time out, throwing an error. That's the real problem. 15:24 druthb changing the style doesn't fix that. 15:24 oleonard Wow, that's got to be a lot of terms 15:25 druthb when there's a lot of "and" and "the" on the page, and it's trying to highlight them, yah. 15:25 oleonard druthb: I'm not aware of a way to use custom js to prevent the function from running 15:26 druthb hm 15:29 druthb It's only called up in results.tmpl; I could wrap a syspref-based IF around a few little slices of that, and make the whole feature hide away, like the OPAC. 15:34 pastebot "Raothmist" at 200.85.69.76 pasted "cpan[18]> install Graphics::Ma" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/193 15:35 Raothmist i cant install the Graphic::Magick for the 3.2 15:42 Raothmist any help there 15:50 jcamins Raothmist: no idea, but Graphics Magick isn't necessary. 15:51 Raothmist but the instalation on 3.2 need it O.o 15:52 jcamins Raothmist: did you actually try using Koha without it? 15:54 Raothmist uumm... nop i just trying to upgrade from 3.0 to 3.2 15:54 jcamins Raothmist: why don't you try it and see if it works. 15:54 Raothmist i can install it later no? 15:54 wizzyrea Raothmist: it's only required if you are using patron images 15:54 wizzyrea or generating barcodes (I think) 15:55 Raothmist um... i generate barcodes in 3.0 without it 15:55 Raothmist but the patron images sounds interesting 15:56 Raothmist in fact there's 2 warnings in the makePL the Graphic::Magick 15:56 Raothmist and the PDF::API2::Simple 15:57 jcamins Raothmist: I use Koha without either. 15:58 jcamins larryb++ 15:58 sekjal larryb++ 15:59 Raothmist Ok i�ll make the upgrade and tells you what happend :p 16:01 nengard larryb++ for being an awesome new team member 16:02 larryb Aw, shucks. Thanks guys. 16:02 Raothmist <3 16:04 druthb larryb++ 16:05 druthb @karma larryb 16:05 huginn druthb: Karma for "larryb" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. 16:05 jcamins colinc++ 16:11 wizzyrea druthb++ #for epic 1 liners 16:12 druthb thanx, wizzyrea. 16:12 oleonard nengard: Can you give me an example for Bug 5933 16:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5933 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Keyword to Marc mapping not working in opac 16:12 * druthb is about to toss anohter one-liner over the wall, for Bug 5305. 16:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5305 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Resorting results of CCL queries fails in Staff Client 16:13 nengard oleonard sekjal is looking into it 16:13 nengard the example i have is on my local machine 16:13 oleonard the example I'm looking at works with 245h and 245b on opac-detail 16:14 nengard hmm 16:14 sekjal the subroutine which fetches the data doesn't appear in opac-search.pl 16:15 nengard yes, i was talking about the search results 16:15 nengard the mappings do appear on the staff search results 16:18 nengard brb 16:19 sekjal hmmm.... I think the $subtitle calls got lost in opac-search at some point 16:21 sekjal you know, if we flushed out Keyword to MARC mappings, we could seriously reduce the need for the XSLT display 16:23 sekjal add types 'author', 'type', 'series', 'publisher', 'description', 'isbn', 'subject', and maybe a couple others, and we could make the Normal view for details completely customizable 16:24 sekjal "only show 650 and 655 fields in subjects?" "Sure!" 16:24 sekjal "ignore subfield 650$v ?" "why not?" 16:26 jcamins wizzyrea: I think you just attached your patch to the wrong bug? 16:26 wizzyrea I did >.< 16:26 wizzyrea it's probably a sign 16:27 wizzyrea I fixed it, sorta. 16:27 wizzyrea it's back the way it was anyway 16:28 wizzyrea there we go 16:37 druthb wizzyrea++ # <3 Thanks for the quick sign-off! 16:37 Raothmist Update 3.0 to 3.2 done 16:39 wizzyrea np, glad to help 16:39 oleonard Can someone remind me what the dashfix issue with Template Toolkit was? 16:43 sekjal wizzyrea++ (for being awesome to work for in general) 16:44 wizzyrea aw, thanks :) 16:54 jcamins wizzyrea++ # same reason 16:54 oleonard Painfully many problems in testing Bug 5917 16:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit 16:55 jcamins Well, rangi did warn us there would be. 17:03 rangi oleonard: variable names need to be valid perl variable names with tt 17:03 rangi so not blah-blah 17:03 rangi blah_blah is ok tho 17:03 oleonard Okay, thanks for the reminder 17:03 rangi last night i fixed some that were blah,blah 17:03 wizzyrea oi 17:04 oleonard ?? 17:04 rangi yeah, indexes on the results page 17:04 rangi su,phr 17:04 rangi etc 17:05 rangi most of the fixes are simple things like that 17:05 rangi or scoping issues 17:05 rangi i fixed the biblionumbers missing in the results page too 17:05 rangi so while there will be a lot, they are fast to fix at least 17:31 Brooke kia ora! 17:31 magnuse kia ora Brooke 17:31 Brooke :) 17:31 rangi hi Brooke 18:02 Brooke http://www.nps.gov/cherry/cherry-blossom-web-cam.htm 18:08 Brooke teh ohnoes, COBOL pirates have seized the Smithsonian! http://www.si.edu/Exhibitions/Details/COBOL-4681 18:17 * Brooke waves to johnindy 18:28 rangi back 18:33 * Brooke waves to nengard 18:34 nengard hiya 18:39 rangi @wunder wellington nz 18:39 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on March 31, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 18:40 rangi its gonna be a nice day, blue skies again 18:41 Brooke must you taunt? 18:41 rangi heh 18:41 rangi well I get to spend it in an office 18:41 jcamins Woohoo! Successfully tested bug 5738! 18:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5738 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, dearden, ASSIGNED, Display the URI in 856u as an Image 18:42 rangi making bug entries and reformatting patches 18:42 rangi wanna swap? 18:42 jcamins rangi: me? Heck no! 18:44 tcohen hi, i was looking at bug 4189 18:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4189 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Searching z39.50 without selecting any servers results in error message 18:45 tcohen which is still present in master 18:45 tcohen and wanted to ask: handle empty list on .pl side vs. javascript check on submit 18:45 tcohen which de u devs prefer? 18:46 bg @wunder 93109 18:46 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 24.1�C (11:45 AM PDT on March 30, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady). 18:46 * oleonard prefers both, but usually doesn't get his way 18:46 bg woo rangi that maybe tough to catch today 18:46 rangi yeah no chance bg 18:47 rangi tcohen .pl + js 18:47 rangi or .pl 18:47 Brooke 9 in Wellies > 21 in SB 18:47 rangi but never just. js 18:47 tcohen oleonard & rangi: ack 18:47 rangi both is best 18:48 rangi serverside only 2nd best 18:49 bg well tomorrow is my favorite national holiday!!! 18:49 jcamins Is there any way to cherry pick *all* commits since a branch diverged onto your working branch? 18:49 bg Opening day of the Baseball season 18:50 jcamins Woohoo! 18:50 jcamins I figured it out all by myself. :D 18:50 jcamins git cherry-pick kc/master..colinsc/analytical_branch 18:54 jcamins Wow. 18:54 jcamins @later tell cait The revised analytics is working much better. 18:54 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 18:55 oleonard placing multiple holds from the staff client search results page broken? 18:55 jcamins @later tell cait I mean, the analytics from OSS Labs. 18:55 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 18:55 oleonard I only see the first result on the confirmation page. If I don't select the first result, I see nothing. 18:56 rhcl KCK (Kansas City Kansas) is apparently the first Google ultra high-speed Internet network site. Congrats to wizzyrea. 18:57 rhcl (assuming close counts) 18:57 wizzyrea :) not close enough to lawrence to matter but ty 18:57 rhcl will surely reach out and touch you quickly 18:58 wizzyrea we'll see 19:00 oleonard Could someone test placing multiple holds from the staff client for me? 19:05 rangi wizzyrea: how far is it? 19:06 wizzyrea ohhhhhh 30 miles? 19:06 rangi flat? 19:06 rangi oh silly me 19:06 rangi of course it is :P 19:06 rangi you just need to find some friendly farmers between you and there, and wifi it ;-) 19:07 wizzyrea hehe 19:09 sekjal oleonard: seems to be working my install (git pulled from master 10 min ago) 19:09 wizzyrea oleonard: what problem are you having 19:09 wizzyrea with multihold 19:10 oleonard I only see the first result on the hold confirmation page. If I don't select the first result, I see nothing. 19:11 wizzyrea hmm 19:11 sekjal I see multiple 19:12 wizzyrea is it possible that one of the items you selected for hold wasn't holdable? 19:12 wizzyrea or had no items? 19:12 oleonard When that happens I get a js alert saying I can't place the holds 19:13 oleonard (which is stupid and annoying and I keep meaning to see if I can fix it) 19:14 oleonard Trying with a different search, the holds confirmation screen shows 3 of the 15+ titles I selected 19:17 tcohen oleonard: in the js side, is there any example of how do u like to handle incomplete info from the form to alert the user? 19:17 tcohen are we using any fancy sliding alert message or smth? 19:18 oleonard No, we have mostly pretty basic js validation. See itemtypes.tmpl or an example. 19:18 rangi tcohen++ 19:21 rangi hmm where is nps.org 19:21 jcamins MA. 19:22 rangi hope gene is enjoying his vacation 19:22 rangi i see the boys team won the basketball tournament 19:23 rangi ohh good deal on today 19:23 rangi http://www.grabone.co.nz/wellington 19:24 rangi jcamins: i just keep getting autoreplies from someone from there, so thought id go look it up, are they part of masscat do you know? 19:24 oleonard Beer named after an unusual reptile? Where do I sign? 19:24 rangi check out the highlights 19:25 rangi sekjal and NateC have been to that bar 19:25 rangi we went there after the chinese dinner thingy at kohacon 19:26 rangi it has free wifi too 19:26 sekjal I recall! 19:26 rangi beer + pizza + wifi 19:27 rangi man, i had it down to 14 bugs in the to be pushed list, its up to 28 again 19:27 wizzyrea YOU. ARE. WELCOME. 19:27 rangi and its only been 9 hours 19:27 wizzyrea :) 19:28 rangi no crits or majors 19:28 rangi they can wait til tonight 19:28 rangi today im making more patches to be signed off 19:29 oleonard rangi: Will you be looking into the T:T issues I'm posting to the wiki or someone else? 19:29 * jcamins is trying to get the Analytics branch tested and signed off, and a follow-up patch or two before the April 1 deadline. 19:29 rangi oleonard: anyone can, ill accept patches from anyone, but probably mostly me 19:30 rangi any you want to fix at the same time, would be hugely appreciated :) 19:30 rangi im hoping the hackfest people in marseille will do a lot of testing/fixing on it too 19:30 oleonard Well, I'm perplexed by some of the issues I'm seeing so I want to be sure to keep an eye on the fixes that come in 19:30 rangi right 19:31 rangi whats one that perplexes you currently? 19:31 oleonard In the opac the "loggedinusername" variable is evaluating as false even when the user is logged in. 19:32 rangi ah yeah that will be a scoping issue 19:32 rangi tt actually cares about scope 19:32 rangi htp not so much 19:36 rangi ill look at that right now oleonard 19:36 rangi see if i can fix it, and shwo you how i did 19:41 rangi also spaces, in variables .. they suck 19:41 rangi thats another dashfix issue 19:41 oleonard Just found this example: <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="Item Due" --> 19:41 rangi yes 19:41 rangi those need to be fixed 19:41 rangi then the converter can convert them 19:41 jcamins Spaces in variables? 19:41 Brooke @quote random 19:41 huginn Brooke: Quote #88: "<owen> I'm a crazed branch-creating maniac" (added by jwagner at 07:42 PM, August 06, 2010) 19:42 * jcamins shudders 19:42 oleonard I'm surprised that worked even with H:T:P 19:42 wizzyrea oleonard is a quote machine 19:42 rangi maybe it didnt ;) 19:43 rangi so it logs you in ok, and has your name right on the opac-user.pl page etc eh 19:43 rangi it just doesnt switch the log in to your account bit 19:44 rangi is that what you are seening owen? 19:44 oleonard Yes. And all the places where it hides something when the user isn't logged in 19:44 oleonard (checkboxes, edit buttons, etc.) 19:44 rangi right 19:46 tcohen oleonard: I wrote a js that checks that at least one checkbox is selected 19:46 tcohen where do i plug it :-D 19:46 tcohen i need to put it to intercept the submit 19:47 oleonard tcohen: What template are you working on? Or is that the question? 19:47 tcohen z3950_search.tmpl 19:49 oleonard tcohen: Add your function to the script block in that template 19:49 tcohen $(".submit").click( ) 19:49 oleonard $("form[name='f']").submit(function(){ 19:49 oleonard I think 19:49 tcohen on document.ready? 19:49 tcohen ok 19:50 tcohen i'll test 19:50 rangi oleonard: its an interesting one eh, since the title comes through etc 19:53 tcohen thanks oleonard 19:54 sekjal is C4::Print still used? 19:54 tcohen is the text "You have to select at least one Z39.50 target." suitable in this context? 19:54 tcohen or you'd say "choose"? 19:54 rangi yes, but HLT at least sekjal 19:54 oleonard tcohen: "Please choose at least one Z39.50 target" 19:55 rangi oleonard: 19:55 rangi $template->param(OpacPublic => '1') if ($template->param( 'loggedinusername') || C4::Context-$ 19:55 rangi that line 19:55 rangi line 470 19:55 rangi is setting loggedinusername empty 19:55 rangi not testing it 19:55 * rangi fixes 19:56 rangi yep 19:56 rangi thats all it was 19:57 rangi will push the fix now 19:58 * Brooke waves 19:58 jcamins Anyone around who uses UNIMARC? 20:00 rangi if you could pull and test that would awesome 20:00 rangi jesus, those peter and paul guys dont half whine 20:00 ibeardslee does mary? 20:00 rangi :) 20:01 * jcamins was thinking that too. 20:01 rangi oleonard: i think its fixed, and they may fix a bunch more other things in the opac 20:01 * oleonard thinks he may have fixed that variable name with spaces 20:02 oleonard Thinks maybe naming perl variables after natural language phrases in the database isn't the best idea 20:02 rangi wooo hoo 20:02 rangi oleonard: no, no its not :) least this gives us a good chance to tidy up 20:05 oleonard rangi: That's a definite improvement 20:05 oleonard I hoped more stuff would be magically fixed. I'll go over those issues again tomorrow to see what I can find out. 20:06 rangi sweet thanks 20:06 rangi as soon as i finish http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new/awaiting_qa/biblibre_various 20:06 rangi ill be doing tt stuff mostly full time 20:11 rangi might try to organise a working b 20:11 rangi do they have those in the us? 20:12 oleonard working b? 20:12 rangi bunch of ppl get together and do some work 20:12 rangi http://rushallgarden.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/summer-working-b-sunday-20-february-2011-10-am-%E2%80%93-12-noon/ 20:13 oleonard I've heard quilting bee in that context, and I suppose a spelling bee is the same thing but I don't think that's really a bunch of people getting together to work on spelling. 20:13 rangi :) 20:13 oleonard "Come on people lets work together to get all these words spelled!" 20:13 rangi hehe 20:14 tcohen rangi: what 'seeking cosponsors' means in bugzilla? 20:14 sekjal until tomorrow, #koha! 20:14 * oleonard too! 20:14 rangi means someone has some money to pay for some of the work, but needs others to help 20:15 rangi the idea is libraries would get together to organise development projects 20:15 rangi hasn't really happened 20:15 rangi still a good idea though 20:15 tcohen ok, if i work for a university 20:15 tcohen that pays me for taking care 20:15 tcohen of koha, and gives me freedom to pick bugs to fix 20:16 rangi yeah 20:16 tcohen should I choose "sponsored" or that is for the reporter to fill? 20:16 rangi skip any that are marked sponsored, cos that means people are usually working on them already 20:16 tcohen oop 20:16 tcohen s 20:16 rangi if you are working on one 20:16 rangi assign it to you, and make a comment, I am working on this 20:17 rangi you could even change it to be sponsored and say "Being paid to work on this by my university" 20:17 rangi to give them some credit 20:17 rangi we like to give credit in the release notes 20:17 tcohen so I have just stolen a bug from you.. 20:17 tcohen :-( 20:17 rangi which was? 20:17 rangi ill have lots assigned by default, chances are im not actually working on them 20:18 tcohen i didn't understand that field the way you are telling me 20:18 tcohen bug 4189 20:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4189 minor, P5, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Searching z39.50 without selecting any servers results in error message 20:18 rangi if i dont, email the person who is assigned to ask if they are 20:18 rangi ah yeah, im not working on that 20:18 tcohen i'm sorry if i made a bad mistake 20:18 rangi that was just assigned to me, when we upgraded bugzilla 20:18 rangi no 20:18 rangi you are fine 20:19 rangi Reported by mjr@ttllp.co.uk 2010-02-15 19:35:20 20:19 tcohen ufff 20:19 rangi its an old bug 20:19 rangi so all good fixing it 20:19 tcohen i found it to be still present in master 20:19 rangi yep 20:19 tcohen ok 20:19 rangi seeking cosponsors will mean nothing has been done on it yet 20:19 tcohen then i'm fine, and leaving work with a smile 20:20 rangi yep 20:20 tcohen i was worried someone was being paid for fixing that 20:20 rangi well its taken them a year, so i hope not :) 20:20 tcohen and i was just breaking some sort of contract 20:20 rangi never apologise for fixing a bug ;-) 20:21 tcohen ok 20:21 rangi heres one that is being worked on for a client 20:21 tcohen thanks, and till tomorrow 20:22 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5609 20:22 huginn 04Bug 5609: enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Holds Rewrite 20:22 rangi see it has sponsored set 20:22 rangi id leave those alone, unless they are very old, and then ask if someone is working on them 20:22 rangi anything else is fair game :) 20:23 tcohen thanks again 20:23 rangi no problem 20:23 tcohen i see the point now 20:23 rangi thanks for the fix 20:23 tcohen i'm still learning js, so i hope oleonard likes the jquerysh stuff 20:23 tcohen :-D 20:23 tcohen byeeee 20:23 rangi cya 20:26 wizzyrea jcamins++ 20:26 * magnuse is having a hard time installing koha manually on debian 6 (and yes i know about the packages, but need a manual one... ;-) 20:27 rangi how about installing koha-common to get the dependencies 20:27 rangi then do a git clone 20:27 rangi and run perl Makefile.PL from there 20:27 * rangi doesnt know why you would do it any other way :) 20:28 magnuse yeah, thought about that, not sure why i didn't do it... 20:28 rangi i blame not enough coffee 20:28 rangi :) 20:29 magnuse as in none at all, yeah... ;-) ) 20:30 magnuse i thought install_misc/apt-get-debian-lenny.sh would take care of a lot of dependencies, but it had some problems 20:30 rangi it may be out of date 20:30 magnuse yeah, and adding the indexdata repositories did not do any good 20:30 rangi take a look at debian/control 20:31 magnuse looks like there is some good stuff in ther 20:32 magnuse maybe we'll need a INSTALL.debian6, if we're still gonna tell people how to install manually... 20:33 rangi yeah 20:34 magnuse or just to explain the run koha-common, then perl Makefile.PL bit 20:39 wizzyrea for anybody who's got patrons with zillions of reading history 20:39 wizzyrea entries 20:39 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/7pszBvQ4S 20:39 wizzyrea this should keep it from timing out firefox 20:40 wizzyrea two step 5's. oh well 20:41 rangi cool 20:42 magnuse wizzyrea: put it on the wiki? 20:42 wizzyrea yepper 20:42 magnuse wizzyrea++ 20:54 conan hello all 21:01 magnuse hiya conan 21:05 conan I was requested to add a batch of new rows to authorised_values 21:05 conan they gave me an .XLS file 21:05 conan I did it, no problem 21:06 conan but I was wondering about the field limitation for category on authorised_values table 21:06 conan it's a varchar(10) 21:06 conan and I've received stuff to go in there which exceeds this char limit 21:07 conan my question is: doesn't the category come from the MARC standard? 21:07 conan or are they made up at librarian's whim? 21:09 magnuse conan: i would guess that would depend on local policies... 21:09 wizzyrea I vote whim 21:09 wizzyrea it's their whim whether to follow the standard or to deviate 21:09 wizzyrea it's one of the things that makes koha pretty awesome 21:10 wizzyrea (flexible) 21:13 conan I guess I'll have to recode those text then... 21:13 wizzyrea what we do 21:13 wizzyrea is 10char the names 21:13 wizzyrea and make nice descriptions 21:13 wizzyrea (don't neglect your descriptions) 21:13 wizzyrea (they are helpful and friendly) 21:13 magnuse helpful_descriptions++ 21:14 wizzyrea lots of places show the description (if existent) instead of the code 21:14 wizzyrea so it matters less if they're ugly 21:14 magnuse heh, there's cricket on the norwegian sports news - not something you see every day... 21:15 conan wizzyrea: by descriptions I guess you mean lib and lib_opac on that table, or are you talking about something else? 21:15 * magnuse thinks conan is guessing right 21:16 wizzyrea yes, exactly 21:16 wizzyrea you can have 2 descriptions, one that your staff sees, and one that your patrons see 21:16 conan cool 21:16 conan thanks 21:16 wizzyrea sure :) 21:17 wizzyrea I was just looking at our ccodes 21:17 conan talking yesterday to the librarian who is introducing me to this world 21:17 wizzyrea they are not very pretty :) 21:17 * wizzyrea is ashamed 21:17 conan she told me that they use category as a memory aid 21:17 wizzyrea aha 21:18 conan but it sound strange to me, since category is used as a connector 21:19 rangi i have a tweet for this situation 21:19 wizzyrea hehehehe 21:19 wizzyrea we should quote add that 21:19 rangi http://twitter.com/ranginui/statuses/51008167383019520 21:20 wizzyrea @quote add rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder 21:20 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #123 added. 21:20 wizzyrea now we can 21:20 wizzyrea @quote get 123 21:20 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 21:20 wizzyrea easy to remember even 21:20 wizzyrea and nicely congruent with the other one I remember: 21:21 wizzyrea @quote get 23 21:21 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) 21:21 magnuse yeah, i'll be using that ;-) 21:21 wizzyrea pretty soon we'll be like that joke 21:22 * jcamins thinks the fact that we all understood that reference means it's too late. 21:22 magnuse where someone mentions a number and everyone laughs? 21:22 wizzyrea YES 21:22 magnuse hehe 21:22 wizzyrea 123! 21:22 * wizzyrea giggles 21:22 magnuse hehe 21:22 magnuse it's the tribe language 21:22 magnuse @quote get 102 21:22 huginn magnuse: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010) 21:23 wizzyrea @quote random 21:23 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 03:50 PM, July 31, 2009) 21:23 wizzyrea ... 21:23 magnuse good to know 21:23 wizzyrea @quote random 21:23 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) 21:23 rangi thats a lie 21:23 wizzyrea @quote random 21:23 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!" (added by jdavidb at 09:40 PM, July 17, 2009) 21:23 wizzyrea LOL 21:23 wizzyrea i remember the bacon day 21:23 wizzyrea that was funny 21:24 wizzyrea @quote random 21:24 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #76: "<owen> yes, it's all part of my plan to take over the world." (added by chris_n at 03:50 PM, June 02, 2010) 21:24 wizzyrea i'm still giggling over flaming bacon. 21:25 magnuse ah, taking over the world with flamng bacon, perhaps? 21:27 wizzyrea hehe 21:27 rangi @quote random 21:27 huginn rangi: Quote #94: "<chris> the more i explain, the more ppl know, and the less i have to do in the future ... its purely selfish hehe" (added by kf at 08:45 AM, September 13, 2010) 21:27 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "numbers jokes" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/194 21:28 wizzyrea not quite the interpretation I was looking for 21:28 wizzyrea but you get the idea 21:29 magnuse hehe, hadn't heard that version before 21:30 wizzyrea ah here's the one I was thinking of 21:31 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "One more number joke" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/195 21:32 wizzyrea why yes, I did in fact just spend 5 minutes looking for the right interpretation of that joke. 21:32 magnuse heh 21:32 magnuse good on you 21:32 magnuse it's called a micro-break 21:32 magnuse ;-) 21:33 wizzyrea dunno if it's good, but it's... something. 21:33 magnuse it sure is 21:33 rangi any biblibrans here? 21:34 rangi doesnt look like it 21:34 magnuse sort of 21:34 magnuse used to be ;-) 21:34 rangi :) 21:34 magnuse remember: ask, don't ask to ask ;-) 21:35 rangi well none of these commits have your names against them 21:35 rangi sudoc stuff and submodules 21:35 * rangi emails 21:36 * magnuse has heard of sudoku 21:36 rangi heh 21:42 jcamins Good night, #koha 21:42 wizzyrea gnite jcamins 21:46 jcamins_away Actually, before I really leave, I have a question for the wisdom of #koha: what meal is so tasty that my wife will be persuaded to eat, despite the fact that I've only managed to get her to eat about half a meal a day for the past week? 21:46 wizzyrea druthb++ #seriously, thanks for fixing that dual prompt thing. 21:46 wizzyrea hmm what does she usually like? 21:47 magnuse hm, something simple, reminiscent of childhood - pancakes? 21:47 jcamins_away magnuse: ooh. 21:47 jcamins_away I like the way you're thinking. 21:47 wizzyrea homemade mac and cheese 21:48 space_librarian pancakes are always good 21:48 space_librarian comfort food 21:48 wizzyrea mashed potatoes 21:48 jcamins_away Oddly enough, she doesn't like homemade mac and cheese. 21:48 wizzyrea mac and cheese out of a box then! 21:48 wizzyrea :) 21:48 wizzyrea waffles are good 21:48 wizzyrea and slightly fancy 21:48 * magnuse has never tried mac and cheese 21:49 * jcamins_away just can't bring himself to eat mac and cheese out of a box. 21:49 * wizzyrea can't either 21:49 * space_librarian is shocked at magnuse's revelation 21:49 * wizzyrea makes the shocked face too 21:50 magnuse maybe when it's time for kohacon i the us again? 21:50 magnuse s/i/in/ 21:50 * wizzyrea makes a note 21:50 wizzyrea "feed magnuse mac and cheese" 21:50 rangi heh 21:50 space_librarian yes. This needs to happen. 21:50 * rangi doesnt like it 21:50 wizzyrea rangi is not invited. 21:50 wizzyrea ;) 21:50 * space_librarian makes another shocked face. 21:51 wizzyrea I'll make him beer-something 21:51 rangi we have it lots at our house tho, cos laurel and the kids do 21:51 wizzyrea must be an american thing 21:51 wizzyrea I don't like it out of the box 21:51 wizzyrea but I do like it when it's homemade 21:51 space_librarian It's my favourite, but not out of the box. 21:51 * magnuse likes mac and likes cheese, so it sounds promising 21:51 wizzyrea lil bit of grilled chicken... nice creamy white sauce with cheese... 21:52 space_librarian a few slices of grilled tomato on the top... 21:52 wizzyrea mmmmm 21:52 * magnuse is getting hungry now, and berakfast is 8 hours away... 21:52 * space_librarian thinks she'll be making mac n cheese for dinner tonight... 21:53 * wizzyrea wonders if she has the stuff for that at home... 21:53 wizzyrea but back to jcamins' problem 21:53 wizzyrea of the hungry wife 21:53 space_librarian something light, but tasty. 21:54 space_librarian chicken noodle soup? 21:54 wizzyrea hummus and pita, with olives 21:54 space_librarian wizzyrea: +1 21:54 wizzyrea maybe salad 21:54 wizzyrea space_librarian: we should be friends :) 21:54 space_librarian I like your style. :) 21:55 * magnuse is having no luck installing koha tonight - now koha-common is giving me errors too... 21:56 jcamins_away Hm. 21:56 * jcamins_away just got back from inspecting the contents of his... living room, actually. 21:56 jcamins_away But that's where all the food is. 21:56 jcamins_away Salad is a definite possibility. 21:59 jcamins_away Whatever else I serve will probably require a trip out. 22:02 rangi oh conan is in argentina? 22:03 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=3b96e6602c331480b6f0ca2fb7eb5cf587f888bc 22:03 rangi opinions? 22:03 rangi (from anyone) 22:04 magnuse so the question is do we want to display e.g. z3950.loc.gov to cataloguers? 22:05 rangi yeah 22:05 rangi or just the name 22:05 magnuse i'd say the name should be enough 22:05 rangi right ill make a bug and attach the patch :) 22:05 mtj yeah, me too 22:06 mtj or just double-paste the host value into name, if yr lazy too 22:06 mtj but yeah, one descriptor should be enuff 22:09 rangi that should be an easy sign off for someone 22:13 magnuse so, if i want to access a locally installed koha as http://localhost/ on my ubuntu machine - what should the ServerName in the apache config file be? localhost? 127.0.0.1? 22:13 rangi either should work 22:13 magnuse all i get is You don't have permission to access / on this server. 403 Forbidden 22:14 rangi is there a default or another config getting in the way? 22:14 magnuse nope, only koha is enabled 22:15 rangi hmmm 22:15 rangi permissions? 22:15 magnuse hm, could be, perhaps 22:17 magnuse hm, all the files are owned by me, shouldn't that be ok? 22:17 rangi are they readable by the world? 22:18 rangi or at least whatever user apache runs as 22:19 magnuse tried chown'ing to www-data, still no luck 22:19 magnuse hiya Irma! 22:19 rangi im out of obvious ideas then 22:20 magnuse thanks for trying, rangi! 22:20 magnuse guess better sleep on it... 22:21 magnuse s/ / i / 22:21 rangi :) 22:28 conan rangi: yes, I'm from Argentina, sorry for the delay 22:29 rangi no problem 22:29 * rangi was just curious 22:29 conan rangi: I'll be doing a proper presentation on the list these days 22:29 rangi oh excellent 22:29 conan I just didn't wanted to present myself until I knew what I'm about to do here 22:29 conan I think I got an idea now, but still trying to get the hang of it 22:30 conan I got to rush home now, see you all tomorrow, bye all 22:30 rangi cya 22:38 magnuse oh well, it's gone half past midnight here... good night #koha! 22:42 rangi ibeardslee: oh now youve done it 22:45 jenkins_koha Starting build 90 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:47 ibeardslee rangi: done what? 22:47 rangi made me realise i only have 3 gig of ram 22:47 ibeardslee ahh 22:48 ibeardslee just update your WR and I'll get you up to 4, grovel to your director if you want more 22:48 rangi 4 would be fine 22:48 * rangi will do that 22:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Typo in kohastructured.sql thanks to Marcel de Rooy for the catch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c584003c1d96df21a06af47eebcf2f9a7f461123> 22:58 eythian Oh, I need to do that too. I only have 4, and it's not quite enough. 22:59 bg heh come work with us - we'll get you what you need :) 22:59 eythian it's just a matter of me getting around to asking the right people here :) 23:02 rangi meeting 23:02 rangi bbiab 23:12 cait hi all 23:12 space_librarian hey cait 23:12 cait hi space_librarian 23:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #90: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/90/ 23:25 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Typo in kohastructured.sql thanks to Marcel de Rooy for the catch 23:32 cait time to sleep 23:32 cait good night all