Time  Nick              Message
00:09 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #84: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/84/
00:09 jenkins_koha      * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 3326: Staff results still displayed &
00:09 jenkins_koha      * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 4366: Improve COinS support for MARC21
00:09 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3326 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, xml entity refs display incorrectly in results page if exported and indexed as xml
00:09 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4366 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, COinS support for MARC21
01:16 rangi             sekjal: dont forget to change the bug statuses too
01:17 rangi             http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5857
01:17 huginn            04Bug 5857: enhancement, P5, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED, longoverdue.pl really needs a "quiet" mode.
01:17 rangi             this wont show up in any of my reports as it has no patch status so ill miss it
01:23 sekjal            thanks for the reminder, rangi.  will do!
01:25 sekjal            k-c bugzilla doesn't accept incoming email, does it?
01:34 rangi             yep it does
01:34 rangi             i forget the address tho
01:37 sekjal            bugzilla-daemon@bugs.koha-community.org?
01:38 rangi             naw was something different
01:38 rangi             ill go look in a min
01:38 sekjal            k
01:38 rangi             bug-submit
01:39 sekjal            be nice to add an git-hook to send patches and update statuses when do sign-offs
01:39 rangi             yeah you cant send attachments
01:39 rangi             at least you couldnt
01:44 sekjal            ah, well
01:44 sekjal            once I start doing more dev on the my desktop directly, I'll cut out some of the steps
01:52 kmkale            Namaskar #koha
01:54 space_librarian   namaskar kmkale
01:54 kmkale            hi shelly
01:55 kmkale            :)
01:55 space_librarian   hey :)
01:55 space_librarian   you have a big cricket match tomorrow.
01:56 kmkale            yup.
01:57 kmkale            work may come to a standstill
01:57 space_librarian   with a game like that, I can believe it.
01:57 space_librarian   I know I'll probably be up all night listening to it on the radio
01:57 kmkale            and day after the entire nation is either in euphoria or depression
01:58 * space_librarian nods
01:58 space_librarian   I really want to see India in the final.
01:58 kmkale            India NZ final
01:58 space_librarian   wouldn't that be grand?
01:59 kmkale            :)
01:59 space_librarian   All we have to do is field first, get the top order out for nothing, and chase down the total. simple.
01:59 kmkale            hehe. same applies to India I think.
02:00 space_librarian   Ah, with Pakistan, you can never be sure...
02:00 kmkale            The old formula of bat first may be a disaster against Pak attackj
02:05 space_librarian   yeah, it'll be interesting to see what Dhoni decides to do if he wins the toss...
02:10 kmkale            gotta go
02:10 kmkale            bbl
02:32 rangi             i freaking love the duplicate bug search when you are entering bugs in bugzilla
02:41 * druthb          is trying to figure out how to set up a bot to do this about every twenty minutes:
02:41 druthb            sekjal++
02:42 sekjal            :)
02:45 eythian           new Koha packages published
02:46 eythian           huginn: later tell jcamins no it's not, we run mysql-server on a dedicated DB server, for instance.
02:46 huginn            eythian: The operation succeeded.
02:48 rangi             eythian: what was the question?
02:48 eythian           rangi: whether koha-common should pull in mysql-server
02:49 rangi             ah yeah
02:49 rangi             no it shouldnt, koha itself should tho
02:50 rangi             (i think it does from memory)
02:50 eythian           yeah, as a recommends.
02:50 eythian           well, if not, that's what it should do
03:04 rangi             right
03:04 rangi             http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new/awaiting_qa/biblibre_various
03:04 rangi             last one to do
03:05 rangi             theres only like 50 million commits on there
03:24 * chris_n         digs out from under a sudden avalanche of patches in his inbox
03:24 rangi             heh
03:25 rangi             racing to get stuff all in signoff mode before april 1
03:25 chris_n           I think I'll go out for more kitten food :)
03:33 AmitG             heya rangi
03:33 AmitG             chris: Today NZ vs SL
03:33 brendan_          heya AmitG
03:33 AmitG             heya brendan_
03:33 wahanui           it has been said that brendan_ is a big fan of koha or the best boss evar!
03:41 rangi             http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2011/03/29/graph-that-illustrates-work-on-koha-master-branch/
03:43 brendan_          rangi++
03:46 chris_n           g'night #koha
03:46 rangi             chris_n++
03:46 rangi             g'night
03:55 brendan_          @define changesets
03:55 huginn            brendan_: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
03:55 wahanui           i already had it that way, huginn.
03:55 brendan_          @google define:changesets
03:55 huginn            brendan_: No matches found.
03:55 brendan_          @google define: changesets
03:55 huginn            brendan_: No matches found.
03:56 brendan_          "Since git does not store changes, but states, it really does not make sense to use the term "changesets" with git."
03:59 brendan_          @define: changesets
03:59 huginn            brendan_: I've exhausted my database of quotes
04:00 rangi             changesets are nonsensical in git, as it stores states not changes
04:00 rangi             changesets?
04:00 wahanui           changesets are nonsensical in git, as it stores states not changes
04:07 brendan_          :)
04:07 brendan_          changesets?
04:07 wahanui           changesets are nonsensical in git, as it stores states not changes
04:08 rangi             right bus time
04:08 rangi             bbl
04:59 Cybermon          hi rangi
05:24 bg                evening
05:46 AmitG             heya kmkale
06:10 cait              good morning #koha
06:11 bg                heya cait
06:12 cait              hi bg :)
06:12 bg                :)
06:15 cait              inbox full of koha mailing list messages
06:15 cait              koha never sleeps :)
06:34 rangi             i have a picture on my blog to illustrate that
06:35 cait              yep, saw it :)
06:36 cait              stolen_wallet++
06:36 cait              hm, that was a mistake
06:36 cait              stolen_wallet-- stolen_wallet--
06:36 rangi             ahhh
06:36 rangi             your wallet was stolen?
06:37 cait              new_bank_card++
06:37 cait              yes, about 2 weeks ago :(
06:37 cait              it's no fun if you can only get money with your passport
06:39 cait              going to apply for some things this morning where I have to show up in person
06:42 rangi             ahhh
06:45 cait              but to be more positive - rangi++ for statistics :)
06:49 cait              we all know it - but now you can show it to people not believing it
06:51 rangi             :)
06:58 cait              rangi: I have some questions about patches and 3.4
06:58 cait              do you have a minute?
06:59 cait              what's better - include kohaversion.pl with XXX or not include at all?
06:59 cait              and what is the exaxt deadline for submitting new things?
07:00 rangi             http://koha-community.org/koha-3-4-0-release-schedule-april-coming-fast/
07:00 rangi             theres the deadline
07:01 cait              april 1st - your april first or my april 1st? :)
07:01 rangi             mine
07:01 cait              oh :(
07:01 cait              ok
07:01 rangi             i wont be too strict, but certainly not your april 2nd
07:02 cait              that's ok
07:02 rangi             and dont worry about kohaversion.pl
07:02 rangi             only the updatedatabase.pl matters
07:02 cait              ok, so not include it?
07:02 rangi             it doesnt matter, but if you do include its likely to conflict
07:03 rangi             and i have to change it either way :)
07:03 cait              ok
07:12 francharb         hello all
07:14 rangi             hi francharb
07:14 cait              hi francharb, julian and miguelxercode
07:15 julian            hi cait, hi everybody
07:25 hdl               hi
07:25 wahanui           hi, hdl
07:26 cait              hi hdl
07:46 cait              bonjour paul_p
08:19 paul_p            gutten morgen cait
08:27 magnuse           hiya paul_p - you just missed cait, i'm afraid
08:28 magnuse           when i translate/modify for norwegian a file like installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/class_sources.sql - should i put my own copyright on it?
08:31 rangi             yes
08:31 magnuse           thanks
08:32 magnuse           how about message_transport_types.sql which i just copy from en to nb-NO?
08:32 rangi             if you just copied it, then nope
08:32 rangi             if you made changes yes
08:32 magnuse           hm, it doesn't have a copyright/licence statement at all
08:33 magnuse           yeah, guess that makes sense
08:33 rangi             ahh fixing that would be good
08:33 rangi             git log should tell you who first added it
08:34 magnuse           ll, 2008
08:35 magnuse           should i avoid mixing that with my normarc commits, perhaps?
08:35 rangi             yeah, i think there is standing bug for fixing copyrights
08:35 magnuse           ah, cool
08:35 magnuse           i'll look it up
08:35 rangi             http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4330
08:35 huginn            04Bug 4330: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Copyright statements out of date
08:36 magnuse           thanks!
08:37 magnuse           another thing i meant to ask you rangi - i'm making lots of small commits for the normarc stuff - will they all be squashed into one big commit when/if it's accepted into koha?
08:37 rangi             thats up to you
08:38 rangi             you can submit them as single patches
08:38 rangi             or you can squash them into one
08:38 magnuse           well i think it's either that or rewrite all the commit messages...
08:47 rangi             paul_p: finished 5584
08:51 paul_p            hi rnagi
08:51 paul_p            what's next on your list ?
08:56 rangi             only one left to go
08:56 rangi             the various fixes one
08:57 rangi             5574, 5575, 5580, 5581, and 5584 are done
08:57 paul_p            rangi, I've already splitted some of the various (& filed the bugs iirc)
08:59 rangi             cool, if you make a toplevel bug and link them to that
08:59 * paul_p          don't remember :(
08:59 rangi             like with the other 5
08:59 rangi             then we will be able to track them
09:01 paul_p            rangi, i've sent the patches on the ML on january, 19th
09:01 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5833, opacstylesheet not loading on all pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5a050d759b08027b210106e90d5714eb02b9032> / Bug 4265: Fix padding of short callnumbers and Bib-1 attribute for sorting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aef8358cf2ce8db9803d94c14f6728cdf9ebd0d4> / Bug 5900: GetAllIssues performance issues <http://git.koha-community.org/git
09:03 paul_p            rangi, CAS proxy (no BZ number in the patch header, but I'm almost sure I wrote the bug), then BZ5631, 5635,
09:04 paul_p            rangi, CAS proxy= 5630
09:04 paul_p            rangi, as I suspected, they are in 5630 and following bugs.
09:06 paul_p            OK, that's 5630->5640
09:06 paul_p            and some are still missing, I didn't finished to split this branch
09:07 rangi             right, ill do them tomorrow
09:07 paul_p            great.
09:15 jenkins_koha      Starting build 85 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:54 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #85: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/85/
09:54 jenkins_koha      * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5900: GetAllIssues performance issues
09:54 jenkins_koha      * Magnus Enger: Bug 4265: Fix padding of short callnumbers and Bib-1 attribute for sorting
09:54 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5900 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, GetAllIssues very slow
09:54 jenkins_koha      * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5833, opacstylesheet not loading on all pages
09:54 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4265 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED, Sorting by call number in OPAC is slightly off
09:54 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5833 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, opacstylesheet not loading on all pages
09:54 jenkins_koha      Starting build 86 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:55 magnuse           huh, what's the difference between these userflags? 'parameters','Set Koha system parameters' vs 'management','Set library management parameters'
09:58 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5253: Add options to runreport.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=412966eff0016c69e5763197f1542e88c74580a1>
10:21 tcohen            hi #koha
10:26 magnuse           buenos días, tcohen
10:34 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #86: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/86/
10:34 jenkins_koha      Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5253: Add options to runreport.pl
10:34 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5253 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, runreport.pl does not work with new options (-to, -from, -email, -format)
10:41 kmkale            hi tcohen magnus_lunch druthb
10:41 druthb            hi, kmkale!
10:41 tcohen            buen día kmkale
10:42 tcohen            anyone knows where is chris_c?
10:42 kmkale            :)
10:42 tcohen            i haven't seen him on irc for so long...
10:42 kmkale            also known as rangi?
10:43 tcohen            really?
10:43 tcohen            you're kidding
10:44 kmkale            nope
10:45 tcohen            jajaja
10:46 tcohen            hi rangi
10:48 kmkale            must be quite late for rangi
11:21 magnuse           @last seen rangi
11:21 huginn            magnuse: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
11:21 magnuse           @seen rangi
11:21 huginn            magnuse: rangi was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 14 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <rangi> right, ill do them tomorrow
11:26 magnuse           kmkale: it's like half past midnight in nz now, i think
11:26 magnuse           @wunder bodo, norway
11:26 huginn            magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0�C (1:20 PM CEST on March 29, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Rising).
11:26 magnuse           hm, i have seen lighter snow showers...
11:26 magnuse           hiya nengard!
11:26 kmkale            magnuse: yup
11:26 nengard           morning
11:26 magnuse           @wunder marseille
11:26 huginn            magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 16.0�C (1:00 PM CEST on March 29, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
11:27 kmkale            hi nengard
11:38 jcamins           Good morning, #koha
11:39 kmkale_           hi jcamins
11:40 magnuse           g'day jcamins and jwagner and everyone else
11:40 jwagner           Hi magnuse and everyone
11:55 magnuse           hiya larryb
11:57 larryb            good morning
11:58 hdl               hi all.
11:58 hdl               Is there an eps/ai version of the koha logo ?
12:04 magnuse           hdl: i don't think i have seen one
12:06 hdl               i think owen had one ... But he is not there.
12:15 oleonard          Hi #koha
12:16 JesseM            Gmorning #Koha
12:16 kf                hi #koha :)
12:16 magnuse           guten tag kf
12:16 kf                hi magnuse :)
12:17 kf                less than a week!
12:17 magnuse           yup
12:19 kf                and paul_p runs away? ;)
12:46 * oleonard        doesn't understand Bug 5977
12:46 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5977 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, opac advanced search Library always set to my library
12:47 oleonard          The opac's advanced search doesn't default to my library for me.
12:48 oleonard          If I turn on SearchMyLibraryFirst it does. Isn't that the correct behavior?
12:48 jcamins           oleonard: unless you have the OPAC override enabled.
12:48 oleonard          ?
12:48 jcamins           I don't like their fix, because they break the OPAC override.
12:48 oleonard          What is the OPAC override?
12:49 jcamins           The variable you use to override which branch is being searched.
12:49 jcamins           See bug 5852.
12:49 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5852 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Masthead search, with OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown on, does not honor SearchMyLibraryFirst
12:50 oleonard          Still confused. What problem is Bug 5977 trying to fix?
12:53 jcamins           Someone hardcoded the branch selection into GetBranchLoop.
12:53 hdl               oleonard: do you have some jpg logo for koha ?
12:54 oleonard          hdl: /misc/interface_customization
12:54 jcamins           oleonard: I fixed that, though.
12:54 kf                why does 'hardcoded' make me shiver?
12:55 jcamins           I don't think these things should be hardcoded, and I certainly don't think that things should then be manually  unset!
13:18 oleonard          Sorry for the Bugzilla email bomb, those of you who are subscribed. Just changing assigned status on a bunch of stuff.
13:19 kf                yep
13:19 kf                126 new bugzilla mails :)
13:19 * oleonard        's OCD kicks in when he sees "NEW" in the list of "awaiting signoff" bugs
13:19 kf                ocd?
13:19 oleonard          kf: Not all of those were me :)
13:19 oleonard          Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder
13:20 oleonard          although I don't use the term in the clinical sense ;)
13:20 jcamins           What is $%?
13:21 sekjal            a polite way to swear?
13:21 kf                oleonard: sounds like a librarian thing
13:21 oleonard          sekjal: That would be "What THE $%?"
13:21 hdl               $%   The current page number of the currently selected output channel. Used with formats. (Mnemonic: % is page number in nroff.)
13:22 hdl               perldoc perlvar
13:22 kf                like when you see a book shelf with books that are out of order / lying flat and you have to get it right
13:23 jcamins           hdl: thanks.
13:23 jcamins           Definitely not what I wanted.
13:30 hdl               jcamins: perlvar is very interesting
13:52 wizzyrea          oh my gracious you weren't kidding about a bomb of patch mail
13:53 * wizzyrea        looks around a bit hopelessly
13:53 wizzyrea          time to filter the patch mail separately from the koha list mail I guess
13:53 wizzyrea          :)
14:04 kf                I have them all separate :)
14:04 * kf              waves to wizzyra
14:04 * wizzyrea        waves to kf, sends cookies
14:06 kf                whohoo :) thx
14:11 oleonard          rangi's latest graph makes it look like we were all hit by a bus: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/times.png
14:14 kf                you are saying red was not a good color choice? ;)
14:15 wizzyrea          6pm nz time must coincide with meals around the world
14:16 kf                could be :)
14:16 wizzyrea          well it's midnight-ish in the US, early early in europe
14:17 magnuse           the graph reminded me of the seismograph drums of nz http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/mqz-drum.html
14:17 wizzyrea          probably asia is the only region awake
14:17 oleonard          We are a thundering herd of developers.
14:18 magnuse           the weird thing is there was lots of activity around 18 in jan 04, but not for the last few years...
14:18 wizzyrea          yea I was thinking that
14:25 * kf              waves to Steve_Tonnesen
14:25 hdl               hi Steve_Tonnesen
14:40 wizzyrea          aw we scared him away
14:47 rhcl              For notices, there a a bunch of variables you can pull out of Koha to insert into the notice, but nothing for
14:47 rhcl              date. Is there a variable like $date that could be used?
14:52 oleonard          Anyone else get an error when they click on an authority search result in the staff client?
14:56 kf                rhcl: afaik no
14:56 kf                rhcl: I remember there is a bug for inserting today's date in bugzilla somewhere
14:56 jcamins           Okay, time for a webinar.
14:57 kf                oleonard: thx for retesting bug  4812
14:57 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4812 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, ASSIGNED, Reserves for a specific copy of a book say book is available even though it it still checked out to someone else
14:58 kf                oleonard++
15:21 rhcl              huggin: bug 5197
15:21 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5197 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, today's date on notices
15:21 rhcl              yep, there it is
15:24 hdl               rhcl: iirc we have a patch for that....
15:24 rhcl              hdl++
15:28 druthb            kf++
15:36 rhcl              Interesting what you can do with a malformed URL.
15:37 rhcl    
15:37 rhcl              substitute your own bib number
15:37 wizzyrea          that's an internal IP, we can't see that
15:37 rhcl              well, no, you'll have to use yours
15:38 rhcl              suspect it must display same behavior elsewhere
15:38 wizzyrea          what's the behavior
15:39 oleonard          it breaks the HTML all over the page
15:39 wizzyrea          ah yep I see it now
15:39 wizzyrea          it still makes you log in though ;)
15:39 rhcl              yea
15:40 rhcl              bug?
15:40 wahanui           bug is updated at any rate
15:40 wizzyrea          forget bug
15:40 wahanui           wizzyrea: I forgot bug
15:43 wizzyrea          oleonard: what do you think, file a bug on that one?
15:44 oleonard          For good measure I guess. No idea whether it's a risk for anyone.
15:44 wizzyrea          i'd bet that there are lots of places where if you added a "> it would mess up the url
15:44 wizzyrea          page
15:45 wizzyrea          pretty much everywhere you are passing a bibnumber
15:45 wizzyrea          if you add a "> it will mess up the javascript
15:46 rhcl              so what's the problem with the URL? what changes the original link above....
15:46 rhcl              to the result:
15:46 rhcl              ">
15:47 wizzyrea
15:47 wizzyrea          bleh
15:47 wizzyrea
15:47 wizzyrea          gah
15:47 wizzyrea          it's the %22%
15:47 wizzyrea          actually it's just a >
15:47 wizzyrea          I think
15:47 druthb            kf++  #...and declares her the Queen-for-a-day of jQuery.
15:47 oleonard          rhcl: %22 and %3E are apparently the entities which translate to " and > in a URL
15:48 kf                yay! :)
15:48 kf                and I got cookies
15:48 oleonard          Ooh, druthb, I wanna see!
15:48 * kf              hides
15:48 druthb            http://l1.load.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=7539
15:49 druthb            Changed the Online Resources line to make it larger, and modified the "More Searches" tool on the right.
15:49 oleonard          Snazzy
15:49 druthb            Indeed.
15:50 druthb            This particular site....well, I'm getting close to happy with the CSS on it.
15:50 wizzyrea          hehe
15:50 wizzyrea          that's one of my tricks!
15:50 wizzyrea          preeeeety
15:51 * wizzyrea        lets kf have queen of the day title anyway, because she's awesome
15:51 * kf              blushes
15:51 kf                druthb: your catalog links don#t get the title
15:51 kf                :(
15:51 wizzyrea          kf, if you solve that one
15:52 druthb            I know; startlingly, that seems to be what they want.  "just *go* there," they said.
15:52 oleonard          druthb: You could try adding "display: block" to #action a#furthersearches to keep it from wrapping in an ugly way when the browser gets resized smaller
15:52 wizzyrea          (querystrings for those searches) I will kiss you.
15:52 oleonard          druthb: But I only tried it in Firefox, so test.
15:52 kf                wizzyrea: we had nlm working - but seems they don't wnat it
15:52 druthb            okay.  I'm also debating the minimum width of that block its' in...enlarging that might also do it.
15:53 kf                not sure that's what you meant?
15:53 wizzyrea          yep that's what I meant
15:54 kf                http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nlmcatalog?term={TITLE} seemed to be right
15:54 druthb            yah, but the search it's doing on the far end was just a keyword.  Throw it "virology" and you got all sorts of chaos.  We'll see what they decide.
15:55 druthb            "No, honey, please move the sofa two inches to the *left*..."
15:55 * wizzyrea        giggles
15:55 * wizzyrea        cries
15:55 * kf              giggles too
15:55 kf                oh
15:55 * kf              hugs wizzyrea
15:55 wizzyrea          because it's funny
15:55 kf                oh
15:55 wizzyrea          and it's all too common ;)
15:55 kf                yep
15:55 druthb            It *is*.
15:55 oleonard          Can someone help me understand this?
15:55 oleonard          delete $$budget_hash{$_} foreach grep {/filter|^op$|show/} keys %$budget_hash;
15:55 kf                oh, you did all that for us... but we don't want it any longer
15:56 oleonard          $budget_hash = $input->Vars
15:56 kf                oleonard: ???
15:56 kf                that looks scary
15:56 * druthb          runs away to a conference call.
15:56 * kf              runs away home
15:56 kf                bbl :)
15:56 oleonard          I'm looking at line 79 of aqbudgets.pl
15:57 sekjal            oleonard:  best guess:  removes any filter, op or show variables passed
15:57 oleonard          sekjal: I guess that explains why $input->param('filter_budgetbranch') is empty after that
15:58 sekjal            were "op" is an exact match, but 'filter' and 'show' could have prefixed/suffiexed variables
15:58 sekjal            yes
15:58 sekjal            that param would be filtered out
15:58 oleonard          I wonder why...
15:58 sekjal            why?  here is no why!
16:09 wizzyrea          that's a relief... patch mail separated from the lists. That will be a lot easier to deal with.
17:11 oleonard          nengard I have a question about Bug 5828
17:12 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5828 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, notes for purchase suggestions not showing in the staff client
17:12 nengard           k
17:12 oleonard          I find that the note doesn't appear in the list view, but it does appear if you click on a suggestion
17:12 nengard           right
17:12 nengard           you think that's enough?
17:13 oleonard          I do, given that it would be difficult to display the notes along with all that other information in the list view
17:14 oleonard          I'm open to arguments, but mostly I wanted to confirm that we were talking about the same thing
17:16 hdl               bbl
17:16 druthb            larryb++
17:37 jcamins           nengard++
17:37 nengard           ??
17:37 nengard           what did i do?
17:38 jcamins           You manage to do really long webinars with regularity.
17:38 jcamins           You deserve karma for that.
17:38 nengard           oh :) hehe
17:38 nengard           oleonard - sorry i got distracted - all the info is on the list view except the note, so most people don't ever click on the suggestions
17:38 nengard           that's why i suggested showing the note on the list
17:38 nengard           ease of use
17:41 druthb            wizzyrea++
17:58 magnuse           hm, when i rebase my normarc stuff i get lots of warnings related to whitespace - what's the right thing to do about that?
17:59 cait              whitespace at end of lines maybe
18:00 magnuse           i'm seeing at least "trailing whitespace" and "space before tab in indent"
18:00 jcamins           Does anyone here use Stage MARC Records?
18:01 oleonard          We do
18:02 jcamins           oleonard: what are your thoughts on bug 5859?
18:02 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5859 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Can't set character encoding with stage MARC records
18:02 jcamins           Any reason I shouldn't just change the dropdown to list character encodings, since the data that's in there is disregarded?
18:03 cait              if it's labelled wrong now it makes perfect sense
18:03 oleonard          That makes sense to me, too
18:03 jcamins           Good.
18:05 * jcamins         waves to larryb
18:37 oleonard          Looks like we're on track to hit bug 6000 before 3.4
18:37 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6000 was not found.
18:38 * jcamins         resists the urge to decrement C4::Search's karma again.
18:40 cait              oleonard: good or bad thing?
18:40 oleonard          decrementing C4::Search's karma++
18:40 jcamins           C4::Search--
18:40 oleonard          cait: It's neutral. It's the change in open bugs that we should worry about if we want to worry about something
18:41 cait              good point
18:41 oleonard          To me I see new bug reports as a good thing because we're seeing something to fix
18:41 jcamins           Speaking of open bugs, someone who is currently working on documentation in the suburbs of Philly has some bugs to close.
18:42 * jcamins         was told not to close bugs that he fixed.
18:43 oleonard          jcamins: You're so cagey.
18:43 cait              patch pushed bugs are ok, waiting sign-off and open are worse
18:48 rangi             the thing to not lose focus on, we haven't had a blocker in ages
18:48 oleonard          I noticed that too rangi
18:48 rangi             and we have pushed almost 700 patches
18:48 rangi             for 3.4
18:48 rangi             thats a win anyway u slice it
18:49 cait              :)
18:49 cait              morning rangi
18:49 rangi             and we started with a huge backlog of things requiring signoff
18:50 rangi             which we are slowly wiping out
18:50 rangi             im amazed that there now is not a single day that there is not a new on signed off
18:51 bg                :)
18:51 magnuse           koha-community++ # ;-)
18:52 rangi             so pat yourselves on the back and keep up the good work :)
18:54 cait              speaking of sign-offs... me knows a person in the big apple who wanted to look at the serials/analytics thing... ;)
18:55 oleonard          sekjal: What do you think, should we keep Bug 4945 open for the IndependantBranches issue or close it and create a new bug?
18:55 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4945 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron search is limited by default to the currently logged-in library
18:55 jcamins           cait: I haven't forgotten.
18:55 cait              don't take me too serious :)
18:55 jcamins           I'll be sending the signed off version before Friday. :)
18:56 sekjal            oleonard: I'd say leave it open until IndepBranch can be reconciled with it
18:56 rangi             ill even let you have friday your time
18:56 cait              but for signing-off things it's not april 1st necessarily, right?
18:56 rangi             id make another bug, and make it block that
18:56 rangi             nope
18:56 rangi             but it helps
18:57 wizzyrea          4945 needs to have a pref like searchmybranchfirst
18:57 rangi             sekjal/oleonard: the blocks/depends are very useful
18:57 cait              my list is already too long :(
18:57 rangi             can split bug into logical parts
18:58 * rangi           hates monolithic bugs
18:58 rangi             with a passion
18:59 oleonard          *cough* Bug 3652 *cough*
18:59 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, XSS vulnerabilities
18:59 jcamins           Oh, the branchloop variable.
19:00 jcamins           branchloop--
19:02 rangi             yeah
19:03 cait              jcamins: waht about being a bit more positive? :)
19:04 jcamins           cookies++
19:04 magnuse           yay!
19:04 cait              that's the spirit
19:07 * oleonard        is disappointed the jqueryUI switch couldn't be done in time for 3.4
19:07 cait              oh
19:08 cait              do we have to switch completely?
19:09 oleonard          I'd rather we do so that we're not adding the jqueryUI dependencies on top of YUI
19:10 cait              ok
19:11 oleonard          What we lack is a good menu replacement
19:13 rangi             my stop bbiab
19:16 druthb            hm.  I think this partner library is trying to get my goat.  Either that, or they're locating every bug ever reported or touched by jcamins, and testing.  Bug 5305 is their latest.  :/
19:16 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5305 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Resorting results of CCL queries fails in Staff Client
19:18 jcamins           Ooh, that's a toughy.
19:19 druthb            I would offer cookies for a fix, but your cookies are better than mine anyway.
19:19 * jcamins         wants that one fixed, too.
19:20 * jcamins         wants all of them fixed.
19:20 rangi             back
19:21 hdl               back
19:23 cait              jcamins: we have that in common :)
19:28 oleonard          rangi: I just checked out a new branch based on origin/new/enh/bug_5917, but nothing is working
19:28 oleonard          Template process failed: file error - /koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/intranet-main.tt: not found
19:29 rangi             it wont
19:29 rangi             to test it
19:30 rangi             mv koha-tmpl koha-tmpl.old
19:30 rangi             mv koha-tt koha-tmpl
19:30 rangi             then try again
19:31 rangi             i will of course do that when i merge, but keep them separate allows me to track changes to templates and make sure they happen on the tt ones too
19:31 rangi             jcamins: what was the bug for searching on () and ?
19:31 rangi             http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1807
19:31 huginn            04Bug 1807: blocker, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, ':' character blocks search ; search () give odd results
19:31 rangi             if you could find them all and link them together, that would be handy
19:32 hdl               rangi: how to launch the script to translate HTML::Template to Template::Toolkit ?
19:32 rangi             in the new/enh/bug_5917 branch
19:32 rangi             run
19:33 rangi             ./installer/html-template-to-template-toolkit.pl --koharoot /path/to/your/repo
19:33 rangi             eg
19:33 hdl               Is it possible to translate only a file ?
19:33 rangi             ./installer/html-template-to-template-toolkit.pl --koharoot /home/chrisc/git/koha/
19:34 rangi             nope
19:34 rangi             actually i lie there is
19:34 rangi             take a look at the pod for it
19:35 pastebot          "rangi" at pasted "translating templates" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/189
19:36 rangi             first time you run it, you want to run -c as well, to copy the images
19:36 rangi             but from then on, you dont need to
19:37 hdl               it also copies javascripts i believ.
19:37 hdl               e
19:37 rangi             yes
19:38 rangi             translates it too
19:39 rangi             chris.hall++
19:39 rangi             http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=49787e94d146a49e0a0555fbfeb681f250fdac0d
19:40 rangi             if i couldnt easily do this, i wuld have had to string freeze last month
19:42 cait              rangi: so translation is working now too?
19:42 rangi             id love someone to test but i hope so
19:43 magnuse           did i hear someone say that all translations have to be done over from scratch after the switch to TT, or is that just something from a bad dream?
19:44 rangi             someone did say that, i think they are wrong
19:44 rangi             its just a po file
19:44 rangi             context doesnt actually matter
19:44 rangi             just hte string content
19:44 cait              magnuse: really sounds like a bad dream!
19:44 * magnuse         crosses his fingers
19:44 rangi             so it doesnt actually care what the final result is
19:45 rangi             hmmm
19:45 magnuse           yeah, that's how i would think it would work, btut i have no experience to back that up with
19:45 rangi             well its how it worked when i was testing it
19:45 rangi             so hopefully it still does
19:47 rangi             ahh i havent merged the translation stuff across 2 secs kf
19:49 oleonard          rangi: Instead of posting comments on Bug 5917 should I be filing individual bugs and linking them?
19:49 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit
19:49 rangi             yep, but perhaps more useful is the wiki page
19:49 rangi             http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Template_toolkit_test#Tested_templates_and_found_problems
19:50 rangi             if you have to pick one, pick the wiki, if you can do both, (ie you plan to fix some too which would be awesome) bugs would be great
19:50 rangi             that make sense?
19:51 oleonard          I think so
19:54 wizzyrea          hi jo :)
19:54 magnuse           kia ora jransom
19:55 jransom           good morning
19:56 hdl               so if we want to allow ppl to test Template::Toolkit and the translations we have to do the move and to link them to that page.
19:56 hdl               thanks
19:58 rangi             yep thats it
19:58 rangi             ill be merging to master soonish
19:59 rangi             and breaking it, but i will give people warning
19:59 rangi             the more we get fixed before then, the less broken obviously :)
20:03 druthb            jcamins++
20:03 cait              @karma jcamins
20:03 huginn            cait: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 63 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 62.
20:06 rangi             cait: i have just pushed the translation work up into 4917
20:06 rangi             5917 too
20:06 cait              bug 5917
20:06 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit
20:06 cait              ok
20:06 cait              I will try to test
20:07 cait              but have to work on some other thigns work
20:07 cait              things first
20:07 cait              working on 5860 right now
20:07 cait              bug 5860
20:07 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5860 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Adding duplicate stocknumber will fail silently
20:09 rangi             good news is i just ran translate update
20:09 rangi             nad its updating the .po files from the .tt ones
20:10 cait              nad=
20:10 cait              ?
20:10 rangi             and
20:10 cait              ah
20:10 cait              that's goo dnews :)
20:11 rangi             yeah looks like it should work a ok
20:11 rangi             chris.hall++
20:11 magnuse           woohoo!!!
20:13 cait              whohoo
20:13 cait              can someone look at 5860 and advise?
20:13 cait              I want to make items.stocknumber not unique
20:13 magnuse           g'night #koha
20:13 cait              I see in kohastructure:
20:13 cait              -  UNIQUE KEY `itemstocknumberidx` (`stocknumber`),
20:14 cait              can I just delete this?
20:16 rangi             youd have to do the updatedatabase too
20:17 rangi             but why do you want it non unique?
20:17 cait              see discussion on the bug :)
20:17 cait              I think we have to fix it one way or the other - at the moment you save and the data is lost
20:18 cait              i got it that paul_p prefers it to be nto unique
20:18 cait              and I can see that it would make sense in some cases
20:18 rangi             i dont
20:18 cait              I think a warning would be nice, but one that could be overriden
20:19 rangi             do you ever look anything up by stocknumber?
20:19 cait              they do yes
20:19 rangi             or is it just for display?
20:19 cait              it's in the books
20:19 cait              older than barcodes
20:19 rangi             yes, but does koha use it anywhere
20:19 cait              everything you acquire gets linked to a stocknumber
20:19 cait              sorry, can you explain?
20:20 rangi             yes, but what im asking is does koha use it, not do librarians use it, ie is there code in koha that looks up things by stocknumber or something?
20:20 druthb            jcamins++
20:20 rangi             because as soon as remove the unique constraint, you will slow that query down
20:20 cait              not that I know of
20:20 cait              it's not even mapped fo rmarc21
20:21 cait              there is a plugin for unimarc and a mapping
20:21 * rangi           doesnt really care about marc
20:21 rangi             because that doesnt touch the db
20:21 rangi             thats zebras problem
20:21 rangi             i just dont want to accidentally slow down serials
20:22 rangi             because we have now made a query slow (or circulation, or acquisitions) etc
20:22 rangi             if its not used in any important query, then non unique would be fine for me
20:24 cait              important query means query with a where stocknumber =?
20:25 rangi             yeah
20:25 rangi             in anywhere other than reports basically
20:25 cait              there is a plugin available for that field
20:25 rangi             or a join by stocknumber
20:25 cait              for catalogig to suggest the next number
20:26 rangi             right that will be slightly slower, so make sure if you remove the unique
20:26 rangi             you replace it with an index (slower but not as slow as koha having to do an exhaustive search to find the max each time)
20:26 cait              ah
20:26 cait              ok
20:26 cait              so kill the unique part but leave the index?
20:26 cait              I have never worked with indexes in the database before
20:26 rangi             yep
20:27 rangi             take a look at items
20:27 rangi             show create table items;
20:27 rangi             see the KEY ones there
20:27 rangi             just like that
20:27 cait              hm that does not work for me
20:27 cait              describe items?
20:28 rangi             show create table items;  doesnt work for you?
20:28 rangi             what version of mysql
20:28 rangi             ?
20:29 cait              5.1
20:30 cait              I am using mysql query browser
20:30 cait              perhaps on commandline?
20:31 rangi             yeah
20:31 rangi             works for me from the commandline
20:31 cait              hm
20:31 rangi             and is very useful :) for testing updatedatabase things worked
20:31 cait              it killed my terminal
20:32 cait              ah,now it's back
20:32 cait              PRIMARY KEY (`itemnumber`),
20:32 cait              UNIQUE KEY `itembarcodeidx` (`barcode`),
20:32 cait              UNIQUE KEY `itemstocknumberidx` (`stocknumber`),
20:32 cait              KEY `itembinoidx` (`biblioitemnumber`),
20:32 cait              KEY `itembibnoidx` (`biblionumber`),
20:32 cait              KEY `homebranch` (`homebranch`),
20:32 cait              KEY `holdingbranch` (`holdingbranch`),
20:32 rangi             yeah just like any of those key ones
20:33 cait              ok
20:33 cait              so kill the unique, keep the rest
20:33 cait              I will work on that
20:34 rangi             cool
20:34 cait              funnily in delitems it's not unique
20:34 cait              deleteditems
20:35 cait              thx rangi :)
20:35 rangi             np
20:41 hdl               hi miguelxercode
20:45 cait              rangi: looks like it worked :)
20:45 rangi             cool
20:46 hdl               have a good night cait and rangi
20:46 cait              good night hdl :)
20:46 rangi             cya hdl
20:46 rangi             sleep well
21:26 cait              changing marc frameworks is ...
21:26 cait              tiring
21:38 jcamins           rangi: are you going to push bug 5997?
21:38 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5997 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Use marcflavour to set default when staging import
21:38 rangi             probably
21:38 rangi             but not right now
21:38 rangi             i have to test it first
21:38 rangi             it has been signed off though
21:38 jcamins           'Cause, it's kind of pointless.
21:39 jcamins           Koha ignores what's selected in that box.
21:39 rangi             feel free to update the bug
21:39 jcamins           For good reason. That's supposed to be character encoding.
21:39 jcamins           That's what I'm doing.
21:39 rangi             cool
21:55 cait              ok, now to add another search index :)
22:00 jcamins           cait: on what?
22:00 cait              952$i
22:00 jcamins           Ah.
22:01 cait              ah? :)
22:01 jcamins           I was acknowledging my understanding. ;)
22:06 cait              ok
22:06 cait              I am not sure about the number
22:07 cait              needed for z39.50
22:18 cait              @marc 037
22:18 huginn            cait: Information needed to order the item or its reproduction. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,f,g,n,6,8]
22:19 cait              hm
22:20 cait              jcamins?
22:20 wahanui           i guess jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas.
22:21 cait              hehe
23:00 rangi             and thats 6000
23:00 rangi             bug 6000
23:00 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6000 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Performance enhancements for C4::Context and C4::Languages
23:42 mtj               nice Koha skin by bywater++
23:42 mtj               http://l1.load.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=love
23:42 mtj               .
23:42 mtj               http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/29/google_android_and_the_linux_headers/
23:43 mtj               interesting too...
23:45 jenkins_koha      Starting build 87 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:48 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3629 : search limit by group is not OK <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=091d3100169a12e9498f6d58c8b61ac01a5a5db6>