Time  Nick           Message
00:01 bg             onto my second draft now
00:01 bg             this one is a league where the winner gets paid
00:02 rangi          ohh cool
00:04 bg             yeah it's a really weird but fun thing...  just kind of hoping that these dudes live up to the back of their baseball cards
00:22 mtj            http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/03/27/2058246/MySqlcom-Hacked-With-Sql-Injection
00:22 mtj            An SQL statement walks into a bar and sees two tables and says, "Hello, may I join you?"
00:26 bg             heh
00:43 rangi          anyone got an install of master handy they can chcek something quickly for me?
00:44 mtj            i do-ish....
00:44 rangi          in search results in the staff client can you confirm itemtype images are broken?
00:45 rangi          or at least the path to them is /opac-tmpl/something not /intranet-tmpl/ something
00:45 rangi          its what im seeing just want to check im not mad, cos i think i know the fix for it
00:47 mtj            hmm, they are missing on mine...
00:47 rangi          cool
00:47 mtj            just dbl-checking stuff.
00:51 mtj            ive got a weird bug on my master, i cant add an item to a bib...
00:51 mtj            looks like a user-perm error… by my admin user has every perm checked
00:51 mtj            s/by/but/
00:56 jcamins_away   rangi: I noticed that, but thought it was my fault.
00:56 rangi          if i could get a signoff on my patch i just sent that would be sweet
00:56 rangi          nope it wasnt :)
00:57 * jcamins_away should probably stop thinking that, since someone almost always files a bug after I think that.
00:57 rangi          easy fix
00:58 jcamins_away   Cookies, then sign off. :)
01:00 mtj            ok, glitchy test db was my problem, fixed..
01:02 mtj            rangi:  itemtypes show OK for me on 3.03.00.032
01:02 rangi          on the staff client?
01:02 rangi          whats the path to them?
01:02 mtj            yep
01:02 rangi          in the search results only
01:03 rangi          and im interested in the path, if it has opac anywhere in it, its still broken
01:03 mtj            ah, on detail.pl
01:03 mtj            wrong place?
01:03 rangi          no not detail, just the results
01:03 rangi          detail is fine
01:04 mtj            ok, they look missing on search.pl
01:05 rangi          sweet
01:05 rangi          the patch for 5960 should unmissing them
01:05 mtj            shamefully, im not sure where they are sposed to appear :/
01:05 jcamins_away   3.3.0.32?
01:05 jcamins_away   When did we hit .32?
01:06 mtj            under the title, on the left perhaps...?
01:06 rangi          this morning
01:06 rangi          on the right
01:06 jcamins_away   This morning... your time?
01:06 rangi          in the location bit
01:06 rangi          yep, with your patch for 4276
01:06 jcamins_away   Ah.
01:06 jcamins_away   Okay, that's fine then.
01:07 jcamins_away   I was worried that I wasn't on Master, since I was just using 3.3.0.31, but I pulled the latest earlier this afternoon.
01:07 mtj            http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blobdiff;f=kohaversion.pl;h=3fbc4e1b34d9846d0fe059ef5c9b3df2522a2e28;hp=cc1d0b530030403c13bd57dd73a5ee07efea2a93;hb=7ddb28d1dd8fee0b6eecfb32ce078dde05ed4eb3;hpb=36ca010cc48c1f2a26eb542966f011de0fe2fca0
01:11 jcamins_away   Cool! They're back. :)
01:11 jcamins_away   And I just found an example of weird garbage in the availability display.
01:12 jcamins_away   I should fix it...
01:13 jcamins_away   rangi: do you need it attached to the bug?
01:13 rangi          naw, signed off and sent to the list is fine
01:13 jcamins_away   Good.
01:14 jcamins_away   I don't have a web browser on my test machine, which means I have to scp it onto my laptop to upload with the web browser.
01:14 rangi          no problem its the status i care about more
01:15 jcamins_away   That's what I thought.
01:16 jcamins_away   Do you get koha-patches on your development box so you can just apply it out of the mbox file?
01:16 rangi          yep
01:16 rangi          its easier than getting it from the bug
01:16 jcamins_away   I need to figure out how to set that up.
01:16 jcamins_away   And *way* easier than copying and pasting.
01:19 rangi          offlineimap
01:19 rangi          and mutt
01:19 rangi          is how i do it
01:28 jcamins_away   Ooh, I like the offlineimap idea... since it's IMAP, you can delete all the messages you're not interested in elsewhere.
01:28 rangi          yup
01:29 rangi          i set up filters
01:29 jcamins_away   Orrr... I could have a public IMAP folder that I move the patches I'm interested in into.
01:29 rangi          and just grab the ones i want
01:34 jcamins_away   Okay, the weird garbage is not something that needs fixing.
01:35 jcamins_away   If you put silly things in your authorized values, you're going to get silly results.
01:36 rangi          :)
01:40 jcamins_away   git rebase -i ++
01:40 jcamins_away   A year ago, I didn't know how to deal with my COinS commits.
01:45 kmkale         Namaskar #koha
01:50 jcamins_away   So much for asking kmkale about the analytics.
02:02 rangi          hi Irma and druthb
02:02 druthb         Hi, rangi! :)
02:05 rangi          hows the weekend going?
02:31 druthb         workin' workin' workin', mostly.  Took some time off to tinker with an idea with a friend of mine that could really be nifty, and did some reading today.
03:01 jcamins_away   tinkering++
03:01 druthb         hi, jcamins!
03:02 * jcamins_away is going to bed soon, but he had this really nifty idea...
03:02 jcamins_away   rangi: (or anyone) how much RAM would it take to run a low-usage 1.5 million-record Koha installation?
03:03 rangi          depends how fast you want it to b
03:03 rangi          e
03:03 rangi          id want at least 4 gig on the db server
03:04 jcamins_away   And I guess you'd probably need about the same for Zebra?
03:04 rangi          zebra uses way less
03:04 rangi          thats why i like it
03:04 rangi          you could get away with 2 for zebra + apache
03:04 rangi          fast disk tho
03:05 jcamins_away   Hmm.
03:05 jcamins_away   Thanks!
03:05 rangi          np
03:05 * jcamins_away thinks making Koha flexible enough to provide a decent interface to ERIC would be *awesome*.
03:06 jcamins_away   (http://eric.ed.gov/ )
03:06 rangi          nat lib venezuala has 9 million records
03:06 rangi          in their koha
03:06 jcamins_away   Wow! That's a lot of records.
03:07 rangi          its the biggest koha i know of
03:08 rangi          course thats from libwebcats
03:09 rangi          so take it with a grain of salt
03:09 rangi          http://www.librarytechnology.org/lwc-displaylibrary.pl?RC=927
03:09 jcamins_away   Heh. Well, if it's publicly accessible, we can see what the highest biblionumber is.
03:09 jcamins_away   If it's less than 9m, we know libwebcats is wrong. ;)
03:10 rangi          7 mill
03:10 jcamins_away   7m.
03:10 jcamins_away   Still, a lot.
03:10 jcamins_away   Way more than ERIC.
03:11 rangi          http://www.librarytechnology.org/lwc-displaylibrary.pl?RC=59080
03:12 rangi          about the same size eh?
03:12 jcamins_away   They seem to be using NOTIS still.
03:12 rangi          http://koha.nlp.gov.ph/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl
03:13 mtj            whats NOTIS?
03:13 rangi          http://library.neu.edu.tr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
03:13 jcamins_away   mtj: proprietary ILS.
03:13 rangi          http://www.librarytechnology.org/lwc-displaylibrary.pl?RC=29869
03:13 rangi          exactly 1.5 mill apparently :)
03:14 mtj            Type: National repository; Web Catalogue: http://webpac1.bnv.bib.ve/cgi-bin/ webpac; System Vendor: epixtech, inc. (NOTIS, Dynix, Horizon);
03:14 mtj            click
03:14 rangi          http://59.176.17.111/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl
03:15 mtj            w0w, what version of Koha is koha.nlp.gov.ph on?
03:15 rangi          http://www.librarytechnology.org/lwc-displaylibrary.pl?RC=38423
03:15 rangi          check the source
03:15 jcamins_away   Is NEU using Koha 2.something, or did they just completely reskin it?
03:15 rangi          its 3, reskinned
03:15 rangi          neu that is
03:15 jcamins_away   Wow. That's quite different.
03:15 jcamins_away   A shame they didn't share it.
03:16 rangi          they did
03:16 rangi          theres a dickhead to blame as to why its not in koha
03:16 jcamins_away   They did?
03:16 jcamins_away   Oh.
03:16 rangi          yep
03:16 jcamins_away   I guess I should've guessed that, huh?
03:16 rangi          tumer was an active member of hte community
03:17 jcamins_away   I really like NEU's interface.
03:17 rangi          check out their map
03:17 rangi          if you click on the callnumber
03:18 rangi          anyway im sure if we asked they would make it available again and we could try to merge it back, would be hard work now tho
03:18 jcamins_away   Awesome!
03:18 rangi          http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=6917
03:18 rangi          tumer is centre of the photo
03:19 jcamins_away   It's really too bad their skin didn't make it in.
03:19 rangi          on the left it goes, thd, ryan, cindi, tumer, sarah, antoine
03:19 rangi          right, front to back
03:19 rangi          pascale, then hdl
03:19 rangi          the arm holding hte wineglass is kyle
03:20 rangi          cindy (not with an i)
03:20 rangi          http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=6896
03:20 rangi          and this is still my best slide ever
03:20 rangi          http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=9389
03:21 jcamins_away   I have to meet all these people I'm seeing pictures of.
03:22 rangi          http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=72379  <-- at the dev conference in 2006
03:23 druthb         Why'd they put you two uber tall dudes in front, rangi?    ;-)
03:23 rangi          me and paul? who knows :)
03:24 rangi          i was trying to not even be in the photo
03:24 druthb         you almost made it.
03:24 rangi          http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=10816
03:24 rangi          a great one of mtj
03:24 druthb         Normally, when I see a picture with women in the back and men in the front, they're all transpeople, since the women are taller than the men in those groups.... ;-)
03:25 druthb         The look on the baby's face says, "I am the only sane person in this picture."  :)
03:25 rangi          he was the only sane one in that office
03:25 rangi          that was liblime nz
03:26 druthb         lol
03:26 rangi          http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=97  <-- before
03:27 rangi          http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=115  <-- hide the power supply trick
03:27 rangi          http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=124 <-- after :)
03:27 rangi          im done the koha photos rabbit hole now
03:28 * jcamins_away realizes what time it is and sets out to drag is wife off to bed so that she's not too tired to read Derrida tomorrow.
03:28 jcamins_away   Good night, #koha.
03:28 jcamins_away   Again.
03:28 rangi          night
03:28 druthb         night, jcamins
03:29 mtj            cheers chris :)
03:38 AmitG          heya chris
03:38 AmitG          heya kmkale
03:39 kmkale         Hi AmitG
03:48 Steve_Tonnesen Anybody around?
03:53 rangi          hi Steve_Tonnesen
03:53 Steve_Tonnesen Chris!
03:53 Steve_Tonnesen Thought I missed you, what with the 'night' and all.
03:53 AmitG          heya steve_Tonnesen
03:54 Steve_Tonnesen Are you still with Katipo down there?
03:54 rangi          nope, catalyst
03:54 rangi          http://www.catalyst.net.nz/
03:54 Steve_Tonnesen Same kind of work?
03:54 rangi          yup
03:54 Steve_Tonnesen You running the show this time?
03:55 rangi          heh naw, thats too much like hard word
03:55 rangi          k
03:55 Steve_Tonnesen I hear you.
03:55 rangi          hows things with you? you still with cmsd ?
03:55 Steve_Tonnesen Do you still work with Horowhenua?
03:55 rangi          yes indeed
03:55 Steve_Tonnesen Nope.  I've moved on from there.
03:55 rangi          http://www.library.org.nz/  upgraded them to 3.2 last year
03:56 Steve_Tonnesen I went back to school and got my teaching certificate, and taught up north for a couple of years.  Now we've moved down to warmer climes, and I'm back working as a tech again.
03:56 rangi          ahh cool
03:56 rangi          in BC still?
03:56 Steve_Tonnesen Damn, Koha's looking nice, I must say.
03:56 rangi          i will be in vancouver in october
03:56 rangi          for Access
03:56 Steve_Tonnesen Still BC, but about as close to you as I could get.  Tip of Vancouver Island.  Very warm!  Lovin' it.
03:57 rangi          http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/
03:57 rangi          be neat to catch up :)
03:58 Steve_Tonnesen Hmm.  Wonder if I could get my boss to send me across the water for that.  I don't do much library stuff here.  I'm just setting Koha up for a First Nations band that is affiliated with my wife's school.
03:58 Steve_Tonnesen Totally an on-the-side project.
03:58 Steve_Tonnesen Right down to me actually cataloguing the books. Thank goodness they don't have many yet.  :)
03:58 rangi          :-)
03:59 Steve_Tonnesen I'm heading over to Vancouver next week to do some course work on enterprise wireless set ups.  I should be ready for another trip by October, right?
03:59 rangi          if you cant make it, ill just have to use that as an excuse to visit vancouver island :)
03:59 Steve_Tonnesen I'll work on him.
04:00 Steve_Tonnesen My big Koha disappointment so far, is I haven't had to make anything work yet.  :P
04:01 rangi          heh
04:01 rangi          well we will be doing a bit of a hackfest pre conference, on probably both evergreen and koha so im sure we can find some things for you to fix :)
04:01 Steve_Tonnesen I'm just starting to have flashbacks of getting Z39.50 in Koha.  Thank god I didn't have to go through that again.
04:02 rangi          hehe yeah
04:03 Steve_Tonnesen How many active developers are working on Koha nowadays?
04:03 rangi          hmm lemme see for march so far
04:03 rangi          30 different people have had patches pushed into master
04:04 rangi          and for the last release 3.2.6 here are some stats
04:04 rangi          http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2011/03/23/statistics-for-3-2-6/
04:04 Steve_Tonnesen Owen is Nelsonville, right?
04:04 rangi          we now do monthly maintenance releases
04:04 rangi          yep thats right
04:05 rangi          so that was from feb 22, to march 22 (3.2.6)
04:05 Steve_Tonnesen They were just starting to dig in when I bowed out.  LibLime is all new to me too.  How key are they?
04:05 rangi          not key at all anymore
04:05 rangi          they lost their minds
04:05 rangi          its a long sad story
04:05 Steve_Tonnesen Hehe.  Okay.   I'll look it up.
04:06 Steve_Tonnesen Do they own koha.org?
04:06 rangi          yeah
04:06 rangi          hence koha-community.org
04:06 rangi          which is where everyone else hangs out
04:06 Steve_Tonnesen I'll fix my bookmarks.  Google isn't your friend there though.
04:06 * druthb       puts on her asbestos burqa, Just In Case.
04:06 rangi          yeah, theres years worth of links to overcome
04:07 rangi          http://koha-community.org/home/
04:07 rangi          we made sure hlt owned the domain this time, so it cant happen again
04:08 Steve_Tonnesen Well, I just wanted to send out a big Hello.  The libraries in my district are all using a local BC system, and I don't think there's any push to change at all, but I'll make sure word of this small Koha installation gets out and see what falls.
04:09 rangi          excellent :) great to catch up with you again
04:09 rangi          and dont be a stranger :)
04:09 Steve_Tonnesen I'd better get back to cataloguing.  Don't ever let a librarian look at this collection.  :)
04:09 rangi          http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/authors.html  your name lives on, with your 185 commits ;)
04:10 Steve_Tonnesen What?  That whippersnapper Paul Poulain passed me?  I'd better get back to work.
04:10 rangi          :)
04:11 rangi          right time for me to catch my bus
04:11 Steve_Tonnesen That number is only that low because I kept my own CVS where I did my 3,875 total disaster commits, though.
04:11 Steve_Tonnesen Great chatting.  I've got October in my calendar.
04:11 rangi          excellent
04:11 rangi          feel free to lurk :)
04:12 Steve_Tonnesen you bet.
04:12 * rangi        wanders off to the bus stop
04:29 * rangi        pops in from the bus
04:35 rangi          @wunder wellington nz
04:35 huginn         rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (5:00 PM NZDT on March 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
04:35 rangi          lovely evening
04:39 Steve_Tonnesen @wunder victoria ca
04:39 huginn         Steve_Tonnesen: The current temperature in Interstate 8 at West Victoria - Osborn, Alpine, California is 10.1�C (9:26 PM PDT on March 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Steady).
04:40 Steve_Tonnesen @wunder victoria bc canada
04:40 huginn         Steve_Tonnesen: Error: No such location could be found.
04:40 Steve_Tonnesen @wunder victoria canada
04:40 huginn         Steve_Tonnesen: The current temperature in Victoria, British Columbia is 8.0�C (9:00 PM PDT on March 27, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007 hPa (Rising).
04:41 rangi          @quote random
04:41 huginn         rangi: Quote #21: "<owen> I think we need more quotes!" (added by jdavidb at 04:18 PM, August 06, 2009)
04:42 rangi          heres something that might help when cataloguing Steve_Tonnesen
04:42 rangi          @marc 700
04:42 huginn         rangi: An added entry in which the entry element is a personal name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,x,3,4,5,6,8]
04:42 rangi          @marc 700a
04:42 huginn         rangi: unknown tag 700a
04:42 brendan_       @wunder 93109
04:42 huginn         brendan_: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 11.4�C (9:43 PM PDT on March 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).
04:42 rangi          hmm maybe it can't do subfields
04:43 Steve_Tonnesen Yup.  I've used that one a few times.  Mostly, I've been lucky.  These are almost all First Nations books, but I've been getting MARC records out of the Vancouver Public Library for all of them so far.
04:43 rangi          excellent
04:46 rangi          im not aware of any other first nation libraries using koha
04:47 rangi          a know a native american fishing authority uses it
04:47 rangi          maybe one in Alaska too
04:48 rangi          afgonak rings a bell ill google when I get home
04:53 druthb         off to bed!
06:12 cait           morning #koha
06:12 brendan_       heya cait
06:13 rangi          evening
06:13 cait           hi brendan and rangi
06:37 Cybermon       hi there
06:38 rangi          hi Cybermon
06:38 cait           bye all :)
06:38 rangi          cya cait
06:39 Cybermon       i have some problem importing the catalog.
06:39 Cybermon       rangi: can i ask my problem ?
06:39 rangi          yes
06:41 Cybermon       i was imported my catalog data via Stage MARC Records For Import
06:41 rangi          right
06:42 Cybermon       but When I using the Manage Staged MARC Records. Server's power off.
06:42 rangi          you mean the server crashes?
06:42 rangi          literally reboots?
06:42 Cybermon       when i click import this batch to catalog button. my process stopped 23 %.
06:43 rangi          but the server didnt turn off?
06:43 Cybermon       no server crash.
06:43 brendan_       how many records are you importing ?
06:43 rangi          and if you check it later, has it finished?
06:44 Cybermon       about 23416 biblio
06:44 rangi          right
06:44 rangi          stage marc import is not designed for that many
06:44 brendan_       that will take time
06:44 brendan_       rangi++
06:44 rangi          but it will work, it will keep going even if it looks like it stopped
06:44 rangi          what i would do for that many records
06:45 rangi          is use bulkmarcimport.pl from the commandline on the server
06:45 rangi          it is in misc/migration_tools/
06:45 rangi          (altho your staged one might finish eventually)
06:45 Cybermon       can i click again import this batch into catalog ?
06:45 rangi          not safely
06:46 Cybermon       if you tell the command, i hope that can be use via command line.
06:47 rangi          Cybermon: do you want to keep what is in the catalogue at the moment? or do you want to wipe it out and load in those records fresh?
06:49 Cybermon       maybe Can I delete bibio, biblioitems, items, auth_header, sessions, zebraqueue field. I can import again.
06:49 brendan_       Cybermon where are you from?
06:49 Cybermon       Mongolia.
06:49 brendan_       ah cool - welcome
06:49 rangi          Cybermon: if you use bulkmarcimport it will do all that for you
06:49 rangi          so on the server
06:49 Cybermon       i think that bulkmarcimport.pl is faster way.
06:49 rangi          export KOHA_CONF=/path/to/your/koha-conf.xml
06:49 Cybermon       okay.
06:49 rangi          ./misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -d -file /path/to/your/marc_file
06:49 Cybermon       i see
06:50 rangi          http://perldoc.koha-community.org/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.html
06:50 rangi          hi paul_p
06:51 rangi          brendan++
06:53 brendan_       heya paul_p
06:53 brendan_       yeah perldoc is great :)
07:01 brendan_       heya hdl
07:12 kf             good morning #koha :)
07:13 magnuse        hiya kf and #koha
07:15 hdl            hi brendan_ ... kinda early for you
07:15 hdl            hi kf and all
07:15 brendan_       midnight :)
07:15 kf             hi hdl :)
07:15 kf             god morgen magnuse :)
07:19 francharb      hello #koha
07:20 magnuse        hiya francharb
07:20 magnuse        hope to see you in marseille in a week?
07:20 paul_p         hello all (mainly rangi & brendan_ & magnuse)
07:20 brendan_       :D
07:20 magnuse        :-D
07:20 kf             hiya francharb :)
07:20 Cybermon       Rangi: cross finger: now fresh process going
07:21 kf             I share magnuse hopes!
07:24 hdl            brendan_: hope everything is ok for you and your family.
07:24 hdl            hi AmitG
07:24 brendan_       thanks hdl - that means a lot :)
07:24 brendan_       hdl++
07:24 brendan_       heya AmitG
07:25 AmitG          heya hdl, brendan
07:36 Cybermon       rangi: i have following message for display: 100................, 200..........., 300......... etc.... looks going!
07:38 rangi          yep, that looks good :)
07:38 Cybermon       thanks !
07:38 Cybermon       Rangi: where are you from ?
07:39 rangi          new zealand
07:39 Cybermon       i see
07:39 brendan_       NZ++
07:39 brendan_       :)
07:39 rangi          Cybermon: do you work for the the public library in Ulaanbaatar?
07:40 Cybermon       no. i am supporing the koha installation for Public library in UB.
07:40 rangi          ahh ok
07:40 rangi          cool
07:41 Cybermon       i am work for Mongolian Libraries consortium.
07:41 rangi          is that the only library in Mongolia using Koha? or are there others?
07:43 Cybermon       almost. of course, we have few customer from university library. but they are not access to Internet. i think that biggest koha converting system for Public library of UB.
07:48 rangi          ahh ok
07:50 Cybermon       my next plan to support for National Library of Mongolia. :-)
07:51 rangi          yay
07:51 Cybermon       i think that your experience also important for us.
07:53 Cybermon       dear all: anyone know to transfer Alice library software's patron data to koha ?
07:53 rangi          can you get it out as csv ?
07:54 Cybermon       not yet!
07:54 rangi          always the hardest thing is getting the data out
07:55 rangi          once you have it out and into csv you can use the import patrons tool in koha to load it in
07:55 Cybermon       i see. where is CSV export button available for Alice ?
07:56 rangi          no idea, i have never used Alice
07:56 Cybermon       ok ok
07:56 Cybermon       thanks
07:57 rangi          i try not to know anything about proprietary systems, then no one can accuse me of copying them :-)
08:18 kf             rangi++ :)
08:18 rangi          igor++
08:20 kf             args g
08:21 * kf           nick igor
08:21 rangi          ?
08:21 kf             hmpf
08:21 AmitG          heya kf
08:21 kf             ... ignore me. can't type
08:21 * kf           nick igor_
08:21 kf             lol
08:21 igor_          ..
08:21 frankenstein   :)
08:22 igor_          this was hard
08:23 kf             rangi: is the acq branch done now?
08:24 magnuse        it's monday...
08:24 kf             magnuse: oh, right!
08:28 rangi          kf: yes
08:29 rangi          im working on the opac one now
08:30 kf             cool :)
08:30 rangi          well not right now, but tomorrow
08:30 jenkins_koha   Starting build 80 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:32 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3203: ACCTDETAIL notices don't parse branches or borrowers tokens <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d6f791541686dfa409843f8f5b1624f1be6e8cb> / Bug 5960 : Itemtype icons not showing correctly in staff search results <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=42f316ae480100572e996a7a4de76b9528db3d23>
08:37 paul_p         magnuse, yes, we are monday, but do you know we slept for 2 months last we ? (see nicole last sign-off date = may, 22 !!!)
08:37 paul_p         s/we are/it's/
08:38 magnuse        paul_p: oh no, that means we missed all the fun in marseille!
08:40 kf             what?
08:40 kf             nooo....
08:40 paul_p         it maybe a side effect of NZ EQ. Or Japan nuclear problem... or some terrorist that dropped a sleeping gaz all over Europe...
08:41 kf             or nicole wrote from the future!
08:42 rangi          thanks for the reply paul, that does help :) ill make a bug and reformat and send a patch for that tomorrow
08:43 paul_p         rangi, about bug 5967, the bug is not clear to me.
08:43 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5967 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, NEW, OPAC performance enhancement, only deal with subscrition data, if the record has a subscription attached
08:44 rangi          serial is not set until after the if
08:44 rangi          $dat->{'serial'}=1 if $subscriptionsnumber;
08:45 rangi          that will never get set, because its not set :)
08:52 paul_p         rangi, right...
08:52 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5966 : MT 3010: Adds waiting date for holds in opac-user <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9ca5edf85a25b9f9b1584a0f490d4176c1d05e4>
08:54 rangi          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fbb8e5e9118d2e61175b92df5c4bd9c05e078e11;hp=6dfdfbf897fa96e1d613af1a2f02d75d7c9b3165
08:54 AmitG          heya all it is possible to take report in ISBD format
08:56 rangi          also i think the 955 is a unimarc thing?
08:58 rangi          and for the future plack hates switchs :(
09:10 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #80: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/80/
09:10 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bug 5960 : Itemtype icons not showing correctly in staff search results
09:10 jenkins_koha   * Ian Walls: Bug 3203: ACCTDETAIL notices don't parse branches or borrowers tokens
09:10 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5960 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Itemtype icons not showing in search results
09:10 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3203 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED, Some Letters template variables are not available to certain notice types
09:10 jenkins_koha   Starting build 81 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:26 kf             hi kmkale :)
09:27 kmkale         hiya kf :)
09:31 AmitG          heya kmkale
09:35 kmkale         hi AmitG
09:46 paul_p         'evening kmkale & AmitG
09:47 kmkale         hi paul_p
09:48 AmitG          heya paul
09:50 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #81: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/81/
09:50 jenkins_koha   Matthias Meusburger: Bug 5966 : MT 3010: Adds waiting date for holds in opac-user
09:50 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5966 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, REOPENED, Add the date an item was marked waiting in holds
10:06 kf             how hard to fix is bug 3315?
10:06 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3315 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Aggregate SQL clauses break pagination in guided reports
10:10 kf             ok stupid question :)
10:11 kf             i was only wondering if there is a reason why the pagination problem might be hard to fix... like a special mysql problem or something
10:23 AmitG          heya kf
10:23 kf             hi AmitG :)
10:37 druthb         o/
10:37 kf             hi druthb :)
10:49 kmkale         hi druthb
10:49 druthb         :D  howdy
11:07 nengard        and to start my morning I've messed up my documentation git repos again ....
11:08 kmkale         heya nengard
11:08 wahanui        nengard is probably a blogger at http://www.web2learning.net/
11:09 nengard        probably?
11:09 nengard        hi kmkale
11:09 kmkale         nengard: can we have sticky links to Kohacon11 site on k-c?
11:10 nengard        not yet
11:10 nengard        we're working on moving off of WP so it's possible, but right now - not yet
11:10 AmitG          heya nengard
11:10 mtj            ooooh, from WP to what?
11:11 mtj            heya folks
11:11 kmkale         nengard: ok how about a link in the right hand column?
11:11 nengard        mtj, a plain old webpage
11:11 kf             why?
11:11 nengard        so we can search it and have permalinks
11:11 nengard        oh kmkale - I'm sorry!! It's monday morning
11:11 kf             only the manual or everything?
11:11 nengard        of course we can have that link
11:11 nengard        and I'm sorry - i was thinking the manual
11:11 nengard        not the K-c site
11:11 kf             ah
11:11 kmkale         heh
11:12 * kf           hands nengard a cookie
11:12 nengard        hehe
11:12 kf             it's monday's fault
11:12 * kmkale       hands nengard some cofee
11:12 mtj            click....
11:12 * nengard      is off of cookies ... and sugar ... another reason for the broken brain
11:12 nengard        kmkale, wizzyrea controls those links on the side
11:12 nengard        you can ask her to make that change
11:12 kmkale         nengard: ok
11:15 * druthb       reaches for the ibuprofen...gonna be that kinda day..
11:15 kmkale         wizzyrea: ping
11:31 nengard        kmkale it's 6:30am where wizzyrea is - so I don't think she's in IRC yet
11:31 kmkale         aahh. Thanks nengard
11:31 kmkale         will try later
11:31 nengard        you can have one of the bots tell her later
11:32 kmkale         @later tell wizzyrea Can we have link to kohacon11 site in the k-c site main page? url is http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/ocs
11:32 huginn         kmkale: The operation succeeded.
11:46 jcamins        Good morning, #koha
11:49 kf             hi jcamins :)
11:50 jcamins        kf: Do you ever leave #koha?
11:51 jcamins        ;)
11:53 kf             hm... not sure
11:58 paul_p         hi nengard. So you're back to march for a few days ?
11:58 paul_p         (morning jcamins too)
11:58 nengard        hi paul_p
11:58 nengard        not sure what that means :)
11:59 paul_p         (see my mail on patches ML = you sent 3 mails from 2011, May. Happy to see you back on our time :D )
12:00 druthb         Folks, please make lbaerveldt welcome; he is the newest member of the ByWater team--starting today!
12:00 jcamins        Hi, lbaerveldt!
12:00 paul_p         hi lbaerveldt, and welcome, from Marseille, France
12:00 lbaerveldt     Thanks, druthb, I'm glad to be here.
12:00 * jcamins      shouldn't write so many patches that change the same files.
12:01 kf             hi Ibaerveldt
12:02 kf             jcamins: I have the same problem :(
12:02 kf             and hi JesseM
12:02 JesseM         Morning kf :)
12:02 magnus_lunch   welcome Ibaerveldt!
12:02 kf             nengard: the conflicts you are noting will appear everytime chris pushes a database update
12:03 nengard        yup
12:03 kf             nengard: could you perhaps fix them when you test? it would save a lot of time
12:03 kf             and they are easy
12:03 NateC          morning #koha
12:03 nengard        kf, i'll check
12:03 nengard        morning NateC
12:03 magnus_lunch   hiya NateC
12:03 NateC          :)
12:04 nengard        kf is it only kohaversion?
12:04 kf             hi NateC
12:04 kf             it looks like it on the bug
12:04 kf             do a git status
12:04 nengard        i thought we weren't supposed to edit kohaversion - only chris edits that file
12:04 kf             after the git am
12:04 NateC          Hi kf
12:04 kf             it will show you the conflict files
12:05 kf             it can conflict in updatedatabase too
12:05 kf             I am not sure about that - he never complained about my patches doing that
12:05 kf             I set it to XXX
12:05 nengard        in the most recent it was only kohaversion if you don't edit that file when you create patches then there won't be a conflict in the future
12:05 nengard        you update 'updatedatabase' but not the version
12:05 nengard        i think it's on the wiki
12:08 nengard        after i resolve the merge issues what do I do to get it back into the patch?
12:08 nengard        and test it?
12:08 jcamins        git add ${FILE}
12:08 jcamins        git commit --amend
12:08 nengard        do i do the amend before testing?
12:08 kf             git am --continue I think
12:09 jcamins        Oh, right.
12:09 jcamins        What kf said.
12:09 jcamins        Sorry.
12:09 kf             a git add and after that git am --continue
12:09 * jcamins      is still sleepy.
12:09 nengard        k
12:09 nengard        testing 5897
12:13 kf             thx nengard
12:13 nengard        signed off
12:13 wahanui        i heard signed off was approval
12:13 kf             wahanui botsnack cookie
12:13 wahanui        thanks kf :)
12:14 kf             I solved the conflicts and rebased the patch you tested earlier - but it will probably have new conflicts now
12:14 kf             or if you test fast before chris puses - it will be ok :)
12:15 kf             hi oleonard :)
12:15 oleonard       Hi
12:15 wahanui        hello, oleonard
12:17 nengard        is the wiki down?
12:18 oleonard       It came up very slowly for me nengard
12:18 druthb         it seems a little slow, but it came up for me.
12:18 nengard        thanks oleonard - i've been having internet issues so i wasn't sure if it was me
12:18 magnus_lunch   veeery slow from here
12:20 kf             nengard: I had problems with the wiki too
12:43 jwagner        hdl, online?
12:43 hdl            jwagner: yes.
12:43 hdl            How are you ?
12:44 hdl            back from vacations... and silence
12:44 jwagner        Am revisiting my Bug 4447, and chris asked if your Bug 3042 patch fixed it.
12:44 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4447 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Allow external URL/storage location for XSLT stylesheets
12:44 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3042 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED MOVED, Add more details to OPAC search results RSS
12:44 jwagner        I'm trying to read the 3042 patch -- it says "Changing XSLT sysprefs to take filename" but so far I'm not seeing how that's done.
12:45 jwagner        Does it allow for remote storage of XSLT stylesheets?
12:46 hdl            If you add http:// it gets the stylesheet.
12:46 hdl            but you need to add that.
12:47 hdl            in the syspref.
12:47 jwagner        And the bugzilla entry for 3042 seems to be limited to RSS feed.  Are these together?
12:48 hdl            I have done some additional work in order to keep the previous syspref type and adding two preferences. But have not been able to take time to test.
12:48 jwagner        So this hasn't been pushed yet?
12:54 jwagner        I'm only finding two of the three patch files in the mail archive.  Could you attach them to either the 4447 or 3042 bugzilla entries?
12:57 jwagner        And welcome back from vacation :-)
12:59 * jcamins      drags his cat away from his muffin, having finally managed to distract Myshkin from the water glass.
12:59 kf             hehe
13:03 * jcamins      curses the default editor on Debian.
13:25 jwagner        hdl, see my new comments on Bug 4447 after looking at your patches and current code.
13:25 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4447 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Allow external URL/storage location for XSLT stylesheets
13:27 wizzyrea       hi did somebody need something?
13:28 wizzyrea       oh never mind, huginn just told me
13:29 hdl            jwagner: yes... you're right... I think we could add a test in the function which builds a name...
13:30 jwagner        I didn't know -- do the translations now handle the XSLT files so that we need separate language directories?
13:30 kf             yes they do
13:30 jwagner        So preserving the directory structure would be important then, even if we're storing copies remotely.
13:30 kf             the translations for the xslt files are handled by the po files :)
13:31 oleonard       What is items.materials supposed to contain?
13:31 jwagner        kf, how would that work with the discussion in 4447?
13:34 oleonard       I see items.materials is mapped to 952 3 "Materials specified (bound volume or other part)" In what kind of situation would that be used?
13:39 kf             jwagner: I think saving remotely can cause different problems, language only being one of them
13:40 jwagner        kf, what other problems?
13:40 kf             perhaps security warnigns for cross site scripting
13:40 kf             like we have with https and amazon?
13:41 jwagner        Hmmm.  Not familiar with those.  Is there a bug report? Can you describe the problem in 4447?
13:41 kf             not right now, I am aboutto go home for today
13:42 jwagner        When you get a chance.  I have a possible sponsor and want to consider all the ramifications before we do a full spec.
13:42 jwagner        Thanks.
13:43 oleonard       I wouldn't want to spend time helping work on a spec for a development that wouldn't be contributed back to Koha
13:43 jwagner        oleonard, it will be contributed.
13:44 oleonard       Oh, good news
13:44 wahanui        somebody said good news was they rescued 11 over night
13:44 oleonard       wahanui: forget good news
13:44 wahanui        oleonard: I forgot good news
13:50 jcamins        oleonard: you were working on a patch to do with tracings in search results. Unfortunately, I can't find it.
13:50 jcamins        Anyway, if you have any idea what I'm talking about, do you have a follow-up patch for sign-off?
13:51 oleonard       Tracings in search results?
13:51 jcamins        Yeah. Clicking authors, that sort of thing.
13:51 jcamins        Something to do with limits?
13:51 oleonard       Ah right, let me look
13:51 oleonard       Bug 5817
13:52 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5817 major, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Malformed author search link breaks sorting on results page
13:52 jcamins        That's the one!
13:53 oleonard       Unfortunately I don't have a follow-up patch. I've been away from my computer more this month than I've been at it.
13:53 jcamins        Ah. Just checking.
13:53 jcamins        FWIW, that sounds wonderful. ;)
13:53 oleonard       It's Fridolyn's comment that needs to be followed up on
13:55 jcamins        Oh, I bet that's related to the CCL query problem.
13:55 jcamins        bug 5274
13:55 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5274 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, CCL prefixes break search limits
13:56 oleonard       My patch simply changed the syntax of the search links, perhaps that works around Bug 5274?
14:00 wizzyrea       is wiki.k-c.org slow for anybody else?
14:00 jcamins        nengard mentioned that earlier.
14:00 wizzyrea       oh okies
14:00 nengard        bug mentioning it didn't fix it :) hehe
14:01 wizzyrea       @later tell gmcharlt: what's the dilly with tha wiki?
14:01 huginn         wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
14:01 oleonard       wizzyrea: It's slow for me but works eventually
14:01 wizzyrea       @later tell gmcharlt it's wicked slow (9am Monday)
14:01 huginn         wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
14:01 gmcharlt       wizzyrea: slow just now
14:01 gmcharlt       ?
14:01 wizzyrea       ok that was odd. I stopped it and it showed up
14:02 wizzyrea       is there spam on the home page?
14:02 wizzyrea       it's a bit faster now... still 11 seconds
14:02 wizzyrea       it's usually perkier than that
14:09 gmcharlt       hmm, I see what you mean
14:09 magnus_lunch   a newly created subscription starts out as expired - does that sound familiar to anyone? can't find it on bugzilla...
14:09 gmcharlt       magnus_lunch: IIRC, that's been an long-standing bug, but I thought it was fixed
14:10 kmkale         wizzyrea: did you get my message about KOhacon11 link on k-c?
14:10 wizzyrea       i did :)
14:10 kmkale         :)
14:11 jcamins        kmkale: hello!
14:11 kmkale         hi jcamins
14:11 wizzyrea       kmkale: http://screencast.com/t/PYXrZ3tJOz
14:11 jcamins        kmkale: you were involved in the analytics stuff, right?
14:11 kmkale         wizzyrea: Thanks. Should have chceked the site before asking ;)
14:11 tcohen         hi #koha
14:11 wizzyrea       if you'd like to make a post about it, I can give you rights to do that
14:11 wizzyrea       :)
14:12 wizzyrea       kmkale: it's no bother to me to answer questions :)
14:12 magnuse        thanks gmcharlt - looks like it's bug 4286 - i'll have closer look at that
14:12 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4286 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Subscription expired at its creation
14:12 kmkale         jcamins: not yet. want to
14:12 jcamins        kmkale: oh.
14:12 jcamins        I was going to ask to have the revised patch resent.
14:12 wizzyrea       hi tcohen
14:12 jcamins        April 1 is coming up.
14:13 wizzyrea       I keep reading ACCTDETAIL notices as "accidental notices"
14:13 jcamins        Me too!
14:13 kmkale         jcamins: I think the analytics patches were from Amit and Savitra
14:14 jcamins        kmkale: okay, thanks.
14:14 * wizzyrea     thinks they must be the "oops, your books are overdue! I'm sure you didn't mean to do that" notices
14:15 gmcharlt       wizzyrea: somebody is looking at it now, will ping on #koha
14:15 * gmcharlt     has to run off to a meeting
14:15 jcamins        Does anyone know Savitra/Amit's nicks?
14:15 wizzyrea       thanks gmcharlt :)
14:15 wizzyrea       amit used to be "amit"
14:16 wizzyrea       back on irc.katipo
14:16 magnuse        AmitG was here earlier today
14:16 wizzyrea       ^^ seems likely
14:17 jcamins        @later tell AmitG If you're the one who wrote the analytics code, could you please send the revised patches to the list?
14:17 huginn         jcamins: The operation succeeded.
14:23 druthb         sekjal++
14:24 jcamins        druthb++
14:25 oleonard       Everybody++!!
14:25 * oleonard     just got caught up in the excitement
14:25 wizzyrea       oleonard: i'm glad you're back :)
14:29 * oleonard     likes working on Koha almost as much as he likes vacation
14:32 kmkale         wizzyrea: I will take you up on your offer later this week. Been working on a piece somewhere on the lines of About VPM, Thane, India and Koha in India.
14:33 wizzyrea       kmkale: I will go ahead and set up your account that way the next time you log in (if you have a login, that is) you'll be ready to go
14:38 jcamins        C4::Search--
14:38 leed           The wiki should be back up and function now.  It was totally locked up, lots of blocking messages on the console, had to reboot it.   I bet it ran out of memory and swap if I had to guess.  I'll give it more memory if it happens again.
14:39 oleonard       Thanks leed
14:39 leed           np
14:41 wizzyrea       thanks leed :)
14:41 wizzyrea       leed++
14:43 magnuse        leed++
14:44 magnuse        leed: is there any chance you could have a look at the list of categories that is displayed when you try to edit a page too?
14:44 magnuse        leed: it used to display a list of categories with checkboxes, now it seems to be some sort of list of templates...
14:50 jcamins        C4::Search--
14:54 magnuse        jcamins: you just said that... ;-) (which is, by the way, one of my favourite marx brothers quotes)
14:54 jcamins        magnuse: and I'm going to say it again.
14:54 jcamins        I'm looking at bug 5274, and it's *awful*.
14:54 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5274 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, CCL prefixes break search limits
14:54 magnuse        @karma C4::Search
14:54 huginn         magnuse: Karma for "C4::Search" has been increased 0 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of -3.
14:56 magnuse        is there any difference between 'First issue publication date' and 'Subscription start date' on serials/subscription-add.pl?
15:03 * oleonard     has always been confused about that too
15:10 wizzyrea       jcamins++ for fixing bug 3326
15:10 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3326 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, xml entity refs display incorrectly in results page if exported and indexed as xml
15:13 Raothmist      Hello!
15:13 oleonard       Hi Raothmist
15:14 Raothmist      first time here XD
15:14 Raothmist      hey i read a lot in the irc for some bug in koha
15:15 Raothmist      and..... i cant solve it yet
15:15 Raothmist      :(
15:15 Raothmist      DBD driver has not implemented the AutoCommit attribute at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI.pm line 705.
15:17 jcamins        Sounds like you're missing something.
15:17 jcamins        How did you install Koha?
15:18 Raothmist      Well i make an upgrade from 3.0 to 3.2
15:18 jcamins        What OS?
15:18 Raothmist      Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
15:18 jcamins        Using packages?
15:19 Raothmist      yep al updated
15:19 Raothmist      all*
15:19 oleonard       Interesting that a Koha list message is on the first page of Google results for "DBD driver has not implemented the AutoCommit attribute"
15:19 oleonard       http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2009-June/018918.html
15:19 Raothmist      yep is the first bug in face in koha
15:20 Raothmist      and the most anoying one at least
15:21 Raothmist      well i enter into the DBD file to acces for some script problem
15:21 Raothmist      but is fine :s
15:22 wizzyrea       only suggestion is to update perl, but surely ubuntu 10.04 has up-to-date perl
15:22 wizzyrea       I wonder if you're missing some dependencies?
15:22 wizzyrea       there are a lot of new ones in 3.2
15:22 Raothmist      Yes i always updated ubuntu
15:22 jcamins        Try installing DBD::mysql with CPAN?
15:23 Raothmist      well the DBD driver its new in koha
15:23 Raothmist      i 3.2 i mean
15:23 Raothmist      i tried DBD on cpan
15:23 jcamins        Check your my.cnf.
15:24 jcamins        Possibly a problem with that.
15:24 Raothmist      but it always send an error and never let me do it
15:24 wizzyrea       ^^ is probably a clue
15:24 Raothmist      so i donwloaded and install it manually
15:24 jcamins        Raothmist: oh, in that case it's probably DBD and you'll need to fix whatever the problem is.
15:24 wizzyrea       as in: an older version of DBD
15:24 wizzyrea       (my hunch)
15:25 Raothmist      uumm probably let me check in cpan
15:25 Raothmist      do you know what's the last version??
15:26 Raothmist      the command in cpan for cheking the version is?
15:26 wizzyrea       you could try sudo apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl
15:26 Raothmist      Yes i hav that lib
15:27 wizzyrea       (you might have to clean out your other dbd first, we'll see)
15:27 Raothmist      that lib is used on koha 3.0
15:27 Raothmist      remember i make an upgrade from 3.0 to 3.2
15:27 jcamins        Raothmist: try reinstalling.
15:27 jcamins        It's not working, right?
15:27 Raothmist      from 0?
15:28 jcamins        Try reinstalling libdbd-mysql-perl.
15:28 jcamins        Not Koha.
15:28 Raothmist      ah ok ok
15:30 Raothmist      ok done
15:30 wizzyrea       no error?
15:30 Raothmist      well removing it no
15:30 Raothmist      lets instaing
15:30 Raothmist      installing
15:32 Raothmist      Setting up libdbd-mysql-perl (4.012-1ubuntu1) ..
15:32 Raothmist      done!
15:32 wizzyrea       what version did it remove?
15:32 wizzyrea       if you have scrollback
15:33 Raothmist      yep i hav it let me check
15:34 Raothmist      root@Big-Daddy:/home/kick-ass# sudo apt-get remove libdbd-mysql-perl
15:34 Raothmist      Reading package lists... Done
15:34 Raothmist      Building dependency tree
15:34 Raothmist      Reading state information... Done
15:34 Raothmist      The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
15:34 Raothmist      libhtml-template-perl mysql-server-core-5.1
15:34 Raothmist      Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
15:34 Raothmist      The following packages will be REMOVED:
15:34 Raothmist      libdbd-mysql-perl mysql-client mysql-client-5.1 mysql-server
15:34 Raothmist      mysql-server-5.1
15:34 Raothmist      0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 5 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
15:34 Raothmist      After this operation, 35.5MB disk space will be freed.
15:34 Raothmist      Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
15:34 Raothmist      (Reading database ... 310479 files and directories currently installed.)
15:34 Raothmist      Removing mysql-server ...
15:34 Raothmist      Removing mysql-server-5.1 ...
15:34 Raothmist      mysql stop/waiting
15:34 Raothmist      Removing mysql-client ...
15:34 Raothmist      Removing mysql-client-5.1 ...
15:34 Raothmist      Removing libdbd-mysql-perl ...
15:34 Raothmist      Processing triggers for man-db ...
15:34 Raothmist      Processing triggers for ureadahead ...
15:34 oleonard       Mercy.
15:34 Raothmist      ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot
15:34 Raothmist      root@Big-Daddy:/home/kick-ass# sudo apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl
15:34 Raothmist      Reading package lists... Done
15:34 Raothmist      Building dependency tree
15:34 Raothmist      Reading state information... Done
15:34 Raothmist      The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
15:34 Raothmist      libhtml-template-perl mysql-client-core-5.1 mysql-server-core-5.1
15:34 Raothmist      Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
15:35 Raothmist      The following NEW packages will be installed:
15:35 Raothmist      libdbd-mysql-perl
15:35 Raothmist      0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
15:35 Raothmist      Need to get 0B/135kB of archives.
15:35 Raothmist      After this operation, 430kB of additional disk space will be used.
15:35 Raothmist      Selecting previously deselected package libdbd-mysql-perl.
15:35 Raothmist      (Reading database ... 310325 files and directories currently installed.)
15:35 Raothmist      Unpacking libdbd-mysql-perl (from .../libdbd-mysql-perl_4.012-1ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
15:35 Raothmist      Processing triggers for man-db ...
15:35 Raothmist      Setting up libdbd-mysql-perl (4.012-1ubuntu1) ...
15:35 Raothmist      hahaha
15:35 Raothmist      it takes all mysq
15:35 Raothmist      mysql
15:35 Raothmist      but this is a test server so its no problem to experiment
15:36 wizzyrea       :) for future reference, if you want to paste a bunch of stuff, you can use paste.koha-community.org
15:36 Raothmist      uum... ok ok thx :D
15:37 Raothmist      ok lets see... i ned to reinstall all mysql >:O
15:37 Raothmist      need*
15:38 Raothmist      and...... done!
15:38 jcamins        Anyone know how to repopulate cn_sort?
15:38 jcamins        Globally.
15:40 c_afk          jcamins: I fear you will need perl for that
15:40 * jcamins      fears that too.
15:41 Raothmist      indeed!
15:42 oleonard       druthb: Do you recall ever seeing such a script?
15:42 * druthb       recalls *writing* one, once, I think, but that's been aeons ago.
15:43 druthb         Was Perl hackery, natch.
15:43 * oleonard     thought he remembered hearing of one, thought it might have been a Liblime thing
15:44 jcamins        sekjal had one.
15:44 sekjal         got one to touch all items, and another to touch all biblios
15:45 * jcamins      suspects he may have been the cause for the touch biblios one.
15:46 jcamins        lbaerveldt++
15:49 jcamins        Well, drat.
15:49 * jcamins      watches his terminal as it is engulfed by errors.
15:51 jcamins        @karma lbaerveldt
15:51 huginn         jcamins: Karma for "lbaerveldt" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
15:51 jcamins        @karma C4::Search
15:51 huginn         jcamins: Karma for "C4::Search" has been increased 0 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of -3.
15:51 jcamins        C4::Search--
15:51 jcamins        @karma C4::Search
15:51 huginn         jcamins: Karma for "C4::Search" has been increased 0 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of -4.
15:52 Raothmist      DBD driver has not implemented the AutoCommit attribute at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI.pm line 705
15:52 oleonard       jcamins: Have you determined the optimum delay before you can downvote C4::Search again? :)
15:52 Raothmist      sames problem
15:52 jcamins        oleonard: I was demonstrating karma.
15:52 jcamins        And what better use of karma than to downvote C4::Search again?
15:53 jcamins        oleonard++ # 'cause he deserves karma, too
15:54 Raothmist      that DBD starting to anoying me a ot
15:54 Raothmist      lot*
15:55 oleonard       nengard: Just sent a response to your question about the opacstylesheet preference bug
15:55 druthb         lbaerveldt++
15:57 * oleonard     missed the introductions
15:57 oleonard       Hi lbaerveldt and welcome
15:57 nengard        thanks oleonard - i'm finding the bug report now
15:58 lbaerveldt     @oleanard: Thanks. It's good to be here.
15:58 huginn         lbaerveldt: I suck
15:58 nengard        bug 5833
15:58 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5833 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, opacstylesheet not loading on all pages
15:58 jcamins        lbaerveldt: use a : after the name.
15:58 oleonard       lbaerveldt: You don't need the "@" That's why huginn complained :)
15:58 c_afk          !huginn botsnack cookie
15:58 c_afk          huginn botsnack cookie
15:58 huginn         c_afk: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
15:58 wahanui        i already had it that way, huginn.
15:58 c_afk          :(
15:58 jcamins        @botsnack cookie
15:58 huginn         jcamins: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:58 wahanui        i already had it that way, huginn.
15:58 pastebot       "Raothmist" at 200.85.69.76 pasted "Software error: DBD driver has" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/186
15:59 lbaerveldt     OK, thanks. I'm still new to IRC.
15:59 druthb         wahanui: lbaerveldt?
15:59 wahanui        lbaerveldt is Larry Baerveldt, the newest member of the ByWater Solutions Team.
16:01 nengard        hi lbaerveldt - you need an easier username to type :) hehehe
16:01 jcamins        nengard: when LBA isn't on, lb<tab> should do it. :)
16:01 oleonard       http://textaligncentaur.com/
16:02 nengard        jcamins no in xhcat
16:02 nengard        xchat
16:02 nengard        what are you using?
16:02 jcamins        nengard: irssi.
16:02 oleonard       nengard: No tab-completion in xchat?
16:02 jcamins        oleonard: that's awesome!
16:02 c_afk          pidgin does it too - druthb taught me :)
16:02 nengard        not by default ... might be a setting
16:02 nengard        when i hit tab it takes me to the next tab i have open
16:02 nengard        :)
16:02 lbaerveldt     nengard: I've heard that before. I may switch to larryb.
16:03 nengard        :)
16:04 bureado        Hey
16:04 bureado        Raothmist: ping
16:04 Raothmist      Epale!
16:05 Raothmist      estoy que pateo el koha
16:05 Raothmist      xD
16:46 oleonard       jcamins: Found it
16:46 jcamins        oleonard: found what?
16:46 oleonard       The opacstylesheet bug
16:46 jcamins        Oh, right.
16:46 jcamins        Sorry, I was just working on another one of your patches and got confused.
16:47 oleonard       I thought there was another section of Auth.pm just for the login page but didn't properly search for it
16:47 wizzyrea       wow, that's rather odd
16:47 wizzyrea       http://screencast.com/t/e8DPjmLE
16:47 * wizzyrea     goes to investigate
16:48 * jcamins      thinks that CCL2RPN is buggy.
16:48 oleonard       wizzyrea: I remember a bug report related to that
16:49 wizzyrea       hum, lemme go check my test server (squee)
16:49 oleonard       Bug 5734?
16:49 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5734 minor, P5, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Fix column order in issue history
16:49 wizzyrea       ah yea
16:49 wizzyrea       I'm not going to worry about it
16:49 wizzyrea       it's not reflected in our test db
16:50 wizzyrea       aha, yes, that's the one
16:50 wizzyrea       thanks oleonard
16:53 oleonard       Hi joetho
16:53 joetho         OWEN!!
16:55 wizzyrea       joetho!
16:56 joetho         OBAMA!
16:58 nengard        ??
17:05 oleonard       Isn't there a bug for the Biblibre duplicate patron enhancement? I can't seem to find it
17:05 oleonard       Oh, because it's already marked fixed: Bug 5432.
17:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5432 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED FIXED, Duplicate patron feature
17:07 rangi          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencytree.cgi?id=5575&hide_resolved=0
17:07 rangi          thats how i finded it
17:08 rangi          5574, 5575, 5580, 5581 and im working on 5584 now, to build up bugs for all of them
17:09 rangi          (bugs and patches thats is)
17:23 oleonard       What the heck is this supposed to do?
17:23 oleonard       <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="StaffMember" --><!-- TMPL_IF NAME="CAN_user_staffaccess" --> new YAHOO.widget.Button("changepassword");  <!-- /TMPL_IF-->
17:24 oleonard       <!-- TMPL_ELSE--> new YAHOO.widget.Button("changepassword"); <!-- /TMPL_IF -->
17:24 * jcamins      has no idea.
17:24 * druthb       scrolls back, and wonders if joetho notices people looking at him confusedly all the time...   ;-)
17:24 rangi          seems rather pointless to me
17:24 oleonard       If they're a "StaffMember" and they have CAN_user_staff access show the change password button, otherwise show the change password button?!
17:24 c_afk          oloeonard: staff members can't change passwords of each other?
17:24 c_afk          ah
17:24 c_afk          ok, no idea
17:25 * oleonard     sees it's a remnant of a lot of "if StaffMember" stuff which doesn't exist anymore
17:25 rangi          yeah, its broken
17:25 oleonard       That stuff was just too agile for Koha
17:29 rangi          http://www.halfarsedagilemanifesto.org/
17:30 oleonard       Yeah, but the agile opponent lies in wait, ready to spring in an agile manner. You have to wait for it... and wait...
17:49 nengard        webinar time
17:49 nengard        be back
17:56 jcamins        c_afk: when you get back, I have a question about bug 5901.
17:56 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5901 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Make virtualshelves permissions more granular
18:13 oleonard       See y'all later
18:24 melparker      Sorry for the name spam.  Getting used to a new client.
18:33 alfredoero     hi
18:33 wahanui        hello, alfredoero
18:34 alfredoero     how you doing ppl?
18:50 * rangi        waves from the bus
18:51 Raothmist      Hello!
18:51 pastebot       "Raothmist" at 200.85.69.76 pasted "Can't connect to MySQL server" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/187
18:53 wizzyrea       the username and password to the DB is correct?
18:54 rangi          and the db is running?
18:54 wizzyrea       ^^
18:56 Raothmist      yep is running
18:57 Raothmist      and the username and password is correct
18:57 Raothmist      may i need to use grant all acces in myql?
18:57 Raothmist      mysql*
18:57 wizzyrea       yep, that would be your likely next step in troubleshooting
18:58 Raothmist      the complete code for mysql?
18:58 wizzyrea       grant all on <kohadatabasename>.* to '<kohadatabaseuser>'@'localhost' identified by '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>';
18:59 wizzyrea       no <> of course
18:59 Raothmist      but is kohauser or kohadatauser?
19:00 jcamins        Raothmist: you will have to figure out what username you have configured and use that.
19:00 Raothmist      for the DB is koha and the user kohaadmin
19:00 wizzyrea       grant all on koha.* to 'kohaadmin@'localhost' identified by 'the password you assigned;
19:01 wizzyrea       grant all on koha.* to 'kohaadmin@'localhost' identified by 'the password you assigned';
19:01 jcamins        You're missing a single quote.
19:01 jcamins        'kohaadmin'
19:02 Raothmist      ok
19:03 wizzyrea       ya, hence the 2nd :)
19:05 wizzyrea       Raothmist: is your db on the same machine as koha?
19:05 Raothmist      yep
19:06 wizzyrea       curious that it's connecting by IP and not to localhost
19:06 Raothmist      and the same problem i cant acces
19:07 Raothmist      that's the ip from the computer
19:08 Raothmist      server i mena
19:08 Raothmist      mean*
19:08 wizzyrea       when you did your Makefile.pl did you specify the IP or localhost?
19:09 Raothmist      nop but i change it in the koha-conf.xml
19:09 wizzyrea       from localhost to the IP?
19:10 Raothmist      yes
19:10 wizzyrea       and it doesn't work with localhost either?
19:10 Raothmist      let me check
19:11 Raothmist      it work
19:11 wizzyrea       hooray!
19:12 Raothmist      thx dude
19:12 c_afk          wizzyrea++ :)
19:12 wizzyrea       np ;)
19:12 wizzyrea       yvw
19:18 magnuse        yvw is You're Very Welcome
19:18 magnuse        yvw?
19:18 wahanui        well, yvw is You're Very Welcome
19:19 Raothmist      Oh ok ok!! XD cool
19:52 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5817: Follow-up fixing callnum: on staff results <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b853b79001ceefc897eac781a6ebf28e7cc29c85> / Merge remote branch 'kc/master' into new/bug_5817 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=63541e4223224831e4eb2bb51d108cc4a2155388>
20:00 jenkins_koha   Starting build 82 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:12 jcamins        That's weird.
20:12 jcamins        Bug 5274 seems to be working now.
20:12 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5274 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, CCL prefixes break search limits
20:12 jcamins        I mean, the functionality that I reported bug 5274 about.
20:12 jcamins        It did not work yesterday.
20:13 rangi          voodoo
20:13 c_afk          vodoo?
20:27 jcamins        Okay, here's a thought about handling question marks and parentheses.
20:28 jcamins        What about stripping question marks and parentheses when there are no quotes and no colons or equal signs?
20:28 jcamins        (in the query)
20:29 rangi          ?
20:29 jcamins        Bug 5651.
20:29 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5651 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, can't use ? character in searches
20:29 * jcamins      can't believe that everyone in #koha didn't just read his mind to find out what he was talking about.
20:30 rangi          so stripping the ?
20:30 jcamins        In cases where there are no CCL operators.
20:30 rangi          getting too many results is better than getting none i guess
20:31 jcamins        Right.
20:31 rangi          how about escaping it
20:31 rangi          like we did with ( )
20:31 jcamins        Hm.
20:31 rangi          if its not part of a ccl query
20:31 jcamins        Put quotes around the word including the question mark?
20:32 rangi          yeah
20:32 jcamins        Oh, never mind.
20:32 * jcamins      remembers that he already did this.
20:32 rangi          heh
20:33 rangi          did it work?
20:33 jcamins        When escaping the parentheses.
20:33 jcamins        Yeah, it's in Master.
20:33 rangi          yeah
20:33 rangi          thought so
20:33 rangi          i reckon thats a better way to do it
20:33 jcamins        Oh, definitely.
20:33 rangi          i dont like stripping things if we dont have to
20:33 Raothmist      Hi all!
20:35 pastebot       "Raothmist" at 200.85.69.76 pasted "cpan[1]> install Graphics::Mag" (39 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/188
20:36 jcamins        rangi: I'm not sure I agree about bug 5977.
20:36 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5977 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, opac advanced search Library always set to my library
20:37 rangi          feel free to disagree, im just reformating/fixing/making bugs for biblibres big branches
20:37 jcamins        Ah.
20:37 rangi          will not be offended if you disagree
20:37 jcamins        Well, I'll comment on the bug.
20:37 rangi          cool
20:38 jcamins        Actually, I guess it depends how they set it.
20:38 rangi          ull see soon
20:38 rangi          im just fixing conflicts
20:38 rangi          then ill attach the patch
20:39 Raothmist      any clue o wft happen with the cpan
20:39 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #82: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/82/
20:39 jenkins_koha   * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5817, Malformed author search link breaks sorting on results page
20:39 jenkins_koha   * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5817: Follow-up fixing callnum: on staff results
20:39 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5817 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Malformed author search link breaks sorting on results page
20:40 rangi          jcamins: patch attached
20:56 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5838: Format sql outout on guided reports <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8c43dbf3db84545e87b2853e5bdfe02cb3273e4>
20:56 magnuse        hiya Irma
21:00 jenkins_koha   Starting build 83 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:01 rangi          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=0c29076b6c3de1593acee7d8de220287017b63b7
21:01 rangi          now thats a commit message i can work with
21:02 jcamins        What's a commit message you can work with?
21:02 rangi          the one on that commit i pasted
21:03 jcamins        Oh, I thought that was jenkins.
21:03 jcamins        So it turns out that escaping might not work with ICU.
21:09 sekjal         I think there may be an escapement rule that could be applied to icu.xml
21:30 bg             @wunder 93109
21:30 huginn         bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.4�C (2:30 PM PDT on March 28, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady).
21:30 bg             ohhh  rangi that maybe hard to beat today
21:30 rangi          yeah no chance
21:30 rangi          @wunder wellington nz
21:30 huginn         rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on March 29, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
21:31 rangi          right meeting time
21:31 c_afk          @wunder Konstanz
21:31 huginn         c_afk: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.7�C (11:30 PM CEST on March 28, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising).
21:31 bg             yup a win for bg :)
21:33 jcamins        Argh! I can't get the network to function after cloning my VirtualBox VM.
21:33 jcamins        Oh, I know why.
21:39 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #83: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/83/
21:39 jenkins_koha   Katrin Fischer: Bug 5838: Format sql outout on guided reports
21:39 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5838 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Don't show sql statement on guided reports result page
22:06 sekjal         until later tonight, #koha...
22:09 jcamins        Good night, #koha
22:59 rhcl           what's later tonight, me wonders
23:00 rangi          ?
23:00 rangi          nothing afaik
23:20 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4366: Improve COinS support for MARC21 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8958f152e7273d3b1fc45a6f7494ab6066aab55e> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3326' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=38b51b56380b44fbc69656164725998db25e88a9> / Bug 3326: Staff results still displayed & <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa7ca5c
23:21 rangi          hi JM
23:22 JM             Hello rangi
23:22 rangi          hows things?
23:23 JM             Things are very well. How about yourself?
23:23 rangi          busy, but good
23:23 JM             Yeah I've been very busy also
23:24 JM             But that's a good thing.
23:24 JM             Right. :)
23:24 rangi          :)
23:28 JM             Are there any good developments in the works that I can tell others about?
23:28 rangi          well closing in on 3.4 pretty fast
23:28 rangi          theres lots of features and fixes in that
23:29 rangi          http://koha-community.org/koha-3-4-0-release-schedule-april-coming-fast/
23:29 JM             I know that's great. 3.4
23:29 JM             Moving right along
23:30 jenkins_koha   Starting build 84 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:30 druthb         @seen Brooke_
23:30 huginn         druthb: Brooke_ was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 7 hours, 9 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <Brooke_> yeah.
23:30 druthb         @seen Brooke
23:30 rangi          to whats in 3.6 ? all the stuff that didnt make the cut for 3.4 (we'll find out in a few days) plus new stuff
23:30 huginn         druthb: Brooke was last seen in #koha 6 days, 0 hours, 43 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: * Brooke salutes Chris with respect.
23:30 rangi          hi druthb
23:31 druthb         hi, rangi. :)
23:31 JM             Very exciting when that release comes. :)
23:32 rangi          ah we have them every month now :-)
23:32 rangi          but yeah there is some good stuff
23:34 JM             Hi druthb
23:35 * druthb       is wondering why JM changed nicks.
23:37 JM             I'm using my phone. Not home. Like to see what's going on in the community.  :)
23:37 druthb         ah...
23:37 druthb         dedication++
23:37 JM             :)
23:43 JM             Druthb your still working?
23:43 JM             Well I know you never stop.
23:43 druthb         for some low-level value of "working," yes.
23:43 druthb         waiting for my hands to thaw out...took a walk, went and got my nails done and a pedicure, and had dinner.
23:44 JM             Very nice. Pampering yourself. Is a must.
23:45 druthb         mhm.
23:48 JM             Well gnite #Koha
23:48 rangi          night JM
23:51 * druthb       chuckles.