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23:23 rangi yep
23:22 bg rangi - looks like bg gets the win today
23:22 huginn bg: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0ï¿½C (12:00 PM NZDT on March 28, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
23:22 bg @wunder wellington nz
23:22 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.9ï¿½C (4:22 PM PDT on March 27, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 11.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).
23:22 bg @wunder 93109
21:52 cait bye all :)
21:52 cait the rest when testing is done ;)
21:51 * cait hands jcamins some cookies
21:50 cait I have a dev list with a lot of smileys now :)
21:49 jcamins_away Good night.
21:49 cait ok, now I can go to bed
21:48 cait adding it to bug now :)
21:48 cait sent
21:46 cait remember to copy the record.abs file
21:46 jcamins_away Me too! :D
21:46 cait it's the same schema I used for the other things
21:45 cait hope it works for you
21:44 jcamins_away You just saved me the inconvenience of doing that myself.
21:44 jcamins_away cait: sure.
21:44 jcamins_away Woohoo! Now it works!
21:43 rangi bbiab
21:43 rangi its monday, so it must be meeting time
21:43 cait jcamins: could I probably bribe you with virtual cookies to test my new xslt monster?
21:42 cait being igor could be fun in that case :)
21:42 jcamins_away This doesn't work right.
21:42 jcamins_away Drat.
21:42 cait why not
21:41 rangi does that make you igor? :)
21:41 rangi heh
21:41 cait rangi = frankenstein?
21:40 rangi 4276 lives!
21:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, "Related subjects" search doesn't work with XSLT on and chained subject terms
21:40 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
21:40 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 4276: XSLT subject tracings only use subfield a
21:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #79: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/79/
21:40 rangi just a random thought i had sparked by the newsletter release :)
21:40 rangi could just be a 856u to the newsletter article on the koha-community.org site
21:39 jcamins_away I mean, we could without the ISSN, but I prefer ISSNs.
21:39 rangi *nod*
21:39 jcamins_away I think Nicole got an ISSN, so I guess we could.
21:39 jcamins_away Heh.
21:39 rangi how about cataloguing the newsletters into a marc file, so everyone can import the koha newsletters into their koha catalogue ;)
21:38 jcamins_away rangi: uh-oh. What?
21:38 rangi jcamins_away: in case you arent busy enough
21:36 jcamins_away Why did I just go from getting 135 search results to 2725?
21:35 cait hehe
21:35 druthb :p
21:34 jcamins_away I wonder why :p is necessary for 6xx fields but not that one.
21:34 jcamins_away Hooray!
21:34 cait from analytic to host item and back - without using control numbers
21:33 cait now it works
21:33 cait hah
21:33 jcamins_away Hm.
21:33 cait not sure why - as always
21:33 cait and now it works
21:33 cait I killed your :P
21:33 cait no
21:32 wahanui i guess ICU is a friend of yaz, not really integrated.
21:32 jcamins_away ICU?
21:32 cait only finds the host item, not my analytic
21:32 cait a keyword search for schÃ¶ne konstanz is not working too
21:31 cait and copied file form kohaclone to koha-dev
21:31 cait yep
21:31 jcamins_away You reindexed?
21:30 cait any ideas?
21:29 cait No results match your search for 'Host-item:Das SchÃ¶ne Konstanz am Bodensee und Rhein, die alte Stadt im deutschen SÃ¼den :'.
21:29 huginn druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010)
21:29 druthb @quote get 102
21:28 * cait hides
21:28 cait but not persuasive enough
21:28 druthb victory!
21:28 cait much more persuasive
21:28 cait druthb wins
21:28 druthb Cait! Go to bed. It's nearly midnight for you!
21:27 jcamins_away It's late.
21:27 jcamins_away cait: go to bed.
21:27 cait hm someone should send me to bed...
21:27 jcamins_away Right.
21:26 cait melm 773$a Host-item, Host-item:p?
21:26 rangi nope
21:26 jcamins_away cait: phrase search. Like, Host-item:p
21:26 jcamins_away rangi: do you know of any way to force Template Pro to only look through the first item in a list?
21:25 cait ?
21:25 druthb :p
21:25 jcamins_away Make sure you add it as :p, too.
21:25 jcamins_away Yes.
21:24 cait I thought I could add $a to Host-item index, would this be ok in your eyes?
21:24 jcamins_away But if you send a patch for indexing all the missing 7xx fields, I'll sign off on it.
21:23 jcamins_away No.
21:22 cait only $t?
21:22 cait is there a reason we don't index 773$a?
21:22 cait hmpf
21:06 jcamins_away I'm pretty sure I don't want to know what that does.
21:06 jcamins_away TransformMarcToKoha?
21:03 rangi where did i see it
21:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ddb28d1dd8fee0b6eecfb32ce078dde05ed4eb3> / Bug 4276: XSLT subject tracings only use subfield a <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36ca010cc48c1f2a26eb542966f011de0fe2fca0>
21:02 jcamins_away Hm. But the display is rather different.
21:02 rangi hmm im sure i saw it, yeah you could do that
21:02 cait but probably you can use the opac file and change the links?
21:01 cait hm I don't see the file for staff -working on the xslt files right now
21:01 rangi nothing is telling the template/script to use them
21:00 rangi syspref is there
21:00 rangi style sheet is there
21:00 rangi thats it
21:00 jcamins_away Seriously? That's it?
21:00 rangi cos no one has written the code to make it use it
21:00 jenkins_koha Starting build 79 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:00 cait mtj: only for opac
21:00 rangi yeah
21:00 jcamins_away Why doesn't it work then?
21:00 jcamins_away rangi: oh, really?
21:00 rangi the stylesheet is all there
21:00 jcamins_away I don't think so.
20:59 rangi jcamins_away: its probably faster to get the xslt working
20:59 cait perhaps you should add one?
20:59 mtj i thought staff xslt was in stable
20:59 cait lol
20:59 jcamins_away I don't want to understand C4::Search!
20:58 jcamins_away There's no XSLT results display for the Staff client.
20:58 jcamins_away Argh!
20:47 jcamins_away Bother. You can't use select with call-template?
20:15 jcamins_away Thanks!
20:15 jcamins_away Yay!
20:15 rangi cool will try and do that this morning
20:15 jcamins_away Yes indeed. :)
20:15 rangi jcamins_away: 4276 .. ok for me to test and push eh?
20:14 cait hehe
20:14 jcamins_away You know what? In the unlikely event that someone wants alternate availability information in the non-XSLT results view, *they* can figure out how to do it.
20:11 jcamins_away The availability information is passed in directly by C4::Search.
20:10 jcamins_away Ugh.
20:09 jcamins_away Yup.
20:09 jcamins_away It must. I'm sure it does.
20:09 jcamins_away I'm checking now.
20:09 jcamins_away Right.
20:09 cait opac? don't know
20:08 jcamins_away Does the availability not show up in the search results when XSLT is disabled?
20:08 cait hm?
20:08 jcamins_away Well, this is weird.
20:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4222 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client
20:06 cait ah, bug 4222
20:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2370 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, MARC21 non-public note is mapped to items.paidfor
20:03 cait hm bug 2370
20:02 cait no, doesn't look like it
20:01 cait I think it was not - looking it up now
20:01 cait easy enough to check
20:01 jcamins_away I think the field was added.
20:01 cait I think robin did a patch somewhere to add a field to items - not sure what happened with it
20:00 rangi it contains an email address that only the cataloguers should see
20:00 cait paidfor
20:00 cait or it's mapped to a strange field
20:00 rangi right, i just want it in the marc
20:00 cait but I think it's not a real field - no matching field in items
20:00 rangi cool
20:00 rangi ta
20:00 jcamins_away Sorry.
20:00 jcamins_away 952x.
19:59 rangi isnt 952y itemtype?
19:59 rangi thanks
19:59 rangi as long as its in the record, thats good enough for me
19:59 jcamins_away Sadly we don't display it most places in the Staff client either at the moment.
19:58 rangi thanks
19:58 rangi oh cool
19:58 jcamins_away 952$y
19:58 rangi if i wanted a note on a record, that only showed on the staff side, can i do that?
19:58 jcamins_away We do.
19:58 rangi hmm in koha, do we have any note fields that dont show on the opac?
19:58 jcamins_away I clobbered a variable.
19:58 jcamins_away Oh.
19:57 rangi then @$holdingfields
19:57 rangi try my $holdingfields
19:57 rangi i think its passing a list ref
19:56 rangi could be
19:56 jcamins_away Perhaps it doesn't like the list context?
19:56 jcamins_away A field.
19:55 rangi see whats in there
19:55 rangi warn Dumper @holdingsfields;
19:54 rangi use Data::Dumper;
19:54 rangi heres a quick way to check
19:54 jcamins_away I wonder wh it used to work.
19:53 rangi nope
19:53 rangi each field in the record
19:53 jcamins_away Well I guess that would not be what I want, then.
19:53 rangi Returns a list of all the fields in the record. The list contains a MARC::Field object for
19:53 rangi fields()
19:52 jcamins_away Oh.
19:52 rangi its not return field objects
19:52 rangi Returns a list of tags that match the field specifier
19:51 jcamins_away Nope. It is not that I accidentally wrote "foreach" instead of "for."
19:51 jcamins_away Wait, I think I see the problem.
19:51 jcamins_away for my $field (@holdingsfields)
19:50 jcamins_away my @holdingsfields = $record->field(substr $fieldspec, 0, 3);
19:50 rangi how are you making your field object?
19:50 jcamins_away It's got to be something like that, though.
19:49 jcamins_away Or not.
19:49 rangi that would do it
19:48 jcamins_away Oh, I bet it means that there's no use MARC::Field
19:48 jcamins_away ^^ Anyone know what that means?
19:48 jcamins_away Can't call method "subfields" on unblessed reference at /home/jcamins/kohaclone/opac/opac-detail.pl line 235.
19:41 jcamins_away Now I need to make this play nicely with sysprefs: https://github.com/jcamins/koha/commit/964a1ad3877a64963651450de3ac57ae58506dd1
19:38 cait and the history file :)
19:38 cait from the git statistics
19:38 rangi was release manager too
19:38 rangi which has morphed into what we all use now
19:38 cait I recognized his name
19:37 cait ah
19:37 rangi Steve_Tonnesen wrote the first web based circulation system for Koha
19:37 cait someone might now better, but I think so
19:37 jcamins_away cait: but if there's no particular CSS, they're basically equivalent?
19:37 rangi and curses
19:37 rangi s/telnet/ssh/
19:37 rangi before he did that, circ was all telnet
19:37 cait rangi: sorry?
19:37 cait there are always cases where the self check will refuse checkout but a librarian might override the limit
19:36 rangi Steve_Tonnesen did that
19:36 cait rangi: they do, of course
19:36 cait but basically both are block elements
19:36 rangi cait: but the librarians don't ever circulate anything?
19:36 cait depends on the css
19:35 jcamins_away Wouldn't it be the same?
19:35 cait a little piece of software reading the number from the tag and passing it to the barcode field in koha
19:35 jcamins_away I mean, in terms of functionality.
19:35 jcamins_away What would happen if I replaced a <p> tag with a <div> tag?
19:35 cait not sip2 but rfid devices and a keyboard buffer solution (?)
19:35 rangi (staff side too?)
19:35 rangi for all circ?
19:35 cait we have this crazy sip2 self check things :(
19:35 cait sorry, we don't
19:34 * cait waves to rangi :)
19:34 rangi who here uses web based circulation?
19:34 cait jcamins++ for helping me find the right words :)
19:34 rangi blast from the past!
19:33 rangi Steve_Tonnesen: holy crap!!
19:15 cait sounds good
19:15 jcamins_away AlternateHoldingsField.
19:15 jcamins_away Yup.
19:15 cait calls for another syspref perhaps :)
19:14 cait I understand
19:14 jcamins_away 'Cause it's kind of... icky.
19:14 jcamins_away Never submitted.
19:14 jcamins_away Nope.
19:14 cait or a completely new feature?
19:14 cait was this submitted to koha and is broken now?
19:04 cait ah I see
19:03 jcamins_away In the Holdings tab.
19:03 jcamins_away http://donum.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=301
19:02 cait hm?
19:00 jcamins_away It wasn't fun the first time he fixed it, and it's not going to be fun now, either.
19:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4421 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Should be possible to display location for bibs w/o items
19:00 * jcamins_away looks at bug 4421.
18:12 cait he is around a lot
18:11 cait monday morning in nz
18:11 cait I think he will perhaps show up soon
18:11 jcamins_away Now you don't have to worry about us forgetting.
18:11 jcamins_away :)
18:11 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
18:11 jcamins_away @later tell rangi Steve Tonnesen says hi.
18:10 Steve_Tonnesen Great. Thought I'd stop in and say hello. If anybody sees Chris, tell him I said hello.
18:09 cait it's a plugin, should not be too hard
18:08 sjtonnesen Yes, but haven't played with it much. I started using barcodes like T0001, so it looks like I might have to fiddle with that to get it to work with my barcodes.
18:08 jcamins_away Yeah, it works.
18:08 cait I think it's called autobarcode or similar, with different settings
18:08 cait have you turned on the syspref?
18:07 sjtonnesen I see a few references to auto barcode generation when adding items, but it doesn't seem to work for me. Is that feature in limbo?
18:07 sjtonnesen It is certainly much more impressive now for the real librarians, though.
18:07 cait I think people create a simple framework with the most important fields at the moment, if they don't want to use full marc
18:06 sjtonnesen Okay, I'll have to live with that. I won't be dealing with real librarians here, but at least I can customize the MARC fields that show to make it fairly simple.
18:06 jcamins_away Yes, MARC only.
18:06 sjtonnesen There used to be a simpler interface for cataloguing if the library didn't need the full MARC functionality. Is everything done with the MARC interface now?
18:05 cait is there something we can help you with?
18:04 sjtonnesen At the moment, I'm looking at Koha for a very small installation, so don't expect great things out of me for a bit. :)
18:04 sjtonnesen Excellent.
18:04 cait yes, and hdl
18:03 sjtonnesen Paul Poulain?
18:03 cait his new nick is rangi
18:03 cait yes
18:03 sjtonnesen Is Chris Cormack still involved?
18:03 jcamins_away Will you be back a lot now? :)
18:02 cait I was about to look at the git statistics :)
18:02 cait yes, your name sounded familiar to me
18:01 sjtonnesen I've been away for a while. I was pretty active with Koha back in the 1.0 days.
18:01 cait hi sjtonnesen
18:00 jcamins_away Hello, sjtonnesen.
18:00 sjtonnesen Hello Koha!
17:32 jcamins_away You're welcome.
17:31 cait thx for sign-off!!
17:31 cait jcamins++
17:21 huginn cait: Contains the beginning/ending date(s) of an item and/or the sequential designations used on each part. Dates to be used in this field are chronological designations that identify individual issues of the continuing resource. The sequential designations are usually numeric but can be alphabetic as well. The information may be formatted or unformatted. If the date information has been obtained from a source (1 more message)
17:21 cait @marc 362
15:37 cait hm, now I missed druthb
15:12 * druthb looks at the clock, and hurries to go get ready to take kiddo to rehearsal!
15:11 * druthb snags the Velcro
15:08 jcamins_away We apparently use Text::CSV_XS instead.
15:07 druthb yep; I use it all the time for reading. Haven't done a lot of writing with it, tho.
15:06 jcamins_away druthb: Wow, that really saves trouble, doesn't it?
15:06 jcamins_away Or, barring that, if only I had some bright idea for how to make the results of a report attractive for e-mailing.
15:06 druthb Perl Text::CSV?
15:03 jcamins_away If only I knew how to use Perl formats.
15:01 cait :)
15:00 jcamins_away Yay! My new CSV format works.
14:54 jcamins_away Thanks.
14:54 druthb \"
14:52 jcamins_away How do you escape quotes in a CSV?
14:49 cait yep
14:49 jcamins_away String comparison in Perl is eq, right?
14:32 jcamins_away misc/cronjobs/runreport.pl
14:32 jcamins_away Ah.
14:31 jcamins_away There's a server-side command.
14:31 cait I was not aware that this is possible
14:31 cait nope
14:30 jcamins_away Anyone know how to batch schedule a report?
14:24 cait np
14:23 jcamins_away Thanks.
14:22 jcamins_away I need to update several hundred rules.
14:22 cait issuingrules
14:22 cait and there is a syspref to activate renewals in opac I think
14:22 jcamins_away In the database.
14:22 cait circ matrix?
14:21 jcamins_away Where is renewals allowed set?
14:09 * jcamins_away is *very* glad.
14:08 cait ok
14:07 druthb I'm using Mantis for it, since it has project-management and roadmapping features I like, but yeah.
14:07 cait separate bugzila for migrations?
14:07 * druthb suspects that jcamins is glad that the MS ticket system exists; I'm rapidly approaching a hundred tickets in that thing, and it's only been up a couple or three weeks.
14:06 cait yay :)
14:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5954 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, RESOLVED FIXED, 490$a not placed in link to search serials when XSLT defined
14:06 * druthb closes Bug 5954, and Migration Support ticket 0047. :)
14:03 cait teamwork++
14:03 druthb cait++ #takes teamwork to solve these prollems, it does.
14:02 druthb jcamins++
14:02 druthb rangi++
14:02 cait rangi did :)
13:59 jcamins_away cait: yes I did, but that doesn't mean I recall rangi pushing it. ;)
13:59 jcamins_away :)
13:59 druthb my XSLT patch made it on too, which will make Arnold library Very Happy.
13:59 cait didn't you sign-off on it? :)
13:58 jcamins_away Awesome!
13:58 cait yes
13:58 jcamins_away cait: did your 942c patch make it in?
13:29 * jcamins_away grumbles about GetAllIssues.
13:26 * cait peeks out
13:26 jcamins_away GetAllIssues--
13:23 * cait goes to hide again
13:23 cait it's a tv show and it's funny...?
13:23 cait in english even :)
13:23 cait watching big bang theory
13:22 jcamins_away ?
13:20 cait big_bang_theory++
13:18 cait ?
13:13 jcamins_away TEXT--
13:13 jcamins_away Oh, enumchron modification.
13:13 jcamins_away Uh-oh. What's 3.3.0.21?
13:11 jcamins_away Unfortunately, I did that *before* I installed the updated indexing configuration.
13:11 jcamins_away I just reindexed 6.5 GB of data.
13:11 jcamins_away Argh!
13:10 cait lol
13:10 jcamins_away GetAllIssues-- # because it's too horrifying to only give it -1 karma
13:10 * cait thinks it's great to have some company on #koha this sunday :)
13:09 jcamins_away GetAllIssues--
13:09 cait only... giving up
13:09 cait jcamins_away: but this not emans I am giving up!
13:09 jcamins_away cait_afk: :)
13:08 cait_afk jcamins_away: name of reviewer it is
13:07 * druthb grumps a little.
13:07 jcamins_away I managed to parse that sentence.
13:07 jcamins_away Oh, never mind.
13:07 jcamins_away What?
13:07 druthb nope.
13:06 jcamins_away :wq
13:06 druthb Hm...the conditions that patch fixes do not obtain on the running code...but let me figure out if this beast is using ICU.
13:02 cait_afk and a mail on list that it does not work with icu
13:02 cait_afk there is a commit rangi did to fix it somewhere between 3.2.2 and 3.2.3
13:02 cait_afk check back in today's irc logs
13:01 druthb I don't think so...it's a straight package install of koha-common.
13:01 cait_afk are you using icu?
13:01 cait_afk itwas today
13:01 * druthb hasn't caught up with any list in some days.
13:01 jcamins_away MySQL is currently limited to 100MB of RAM.
13:00 * jcamins_away feels like an idiot
13:00 jcamins_away Oh, for crying out loud.
13:00 cait_afk have you seen the mail on the list?
13:00 cait_afk available items again
13:00 druthb Then attempt to limit the search to available items only.
12:59 druthb http://catalog.rivers.bywatersolutions.com, and do some public-library-friendly search.
12:59 jcamins_away Sure.
12:59 cait_afk sure
12:59 druthb Let's see if I'm losing my mind: someone have a moment to check something?
12:58 druthb I do have a bit of a meddlesome problem, though, and I suspect it is something really simple I'm not seeing right.
12:58 cait_afk druthb++ for general awesomeness
12:57 druthb oh. Thanks. :)
12:57 jcamins_away # for migration awesomeness
12:57 druthb eh?
12:56 jcamins_away druthb++
12:54 cait_afk :(
12:51 jcamins_away That's not so good.
12:50 jcamins_away Oh, the packages don't support -x.
12:50 jcamins_away --full
12:49 jcamins_away If anyone is around who knows this, how do I reindex with the packages?
12:28 cait_afk all well deserved
12:28 jcamins_away Wow. Lots of karma. :)
12:27 huginn jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 59 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 58.
12:27 jcamins_away @karma jcamins
12:27 cait_afk jcamins++
10:29 magnuse sleep tight rangi
10:29 cait will be back
10:29 cait time to vote
10:26 cait good night rangi :)
10:26 cait but better make it a jcamins then, he has the better cookies
10:25 rangi ok time for sleep
10:25 magnuse hehe
10:25 cait but perhaps not a bad idea :)
10:25 cait lol
10:25 cait ignore that... I am confusing my laptop's keyboards
10:25 rangi what does it do? give me cookies?
10:25 rangi a syspref called Katrin?
10:24 cait Katrin
10:22 cait I am working on the next right now...
10:22 cait hope you don't get grumpy at me for creating so many new sysprefs
10:21 cait even my tiny sysprefs take a lot more
10:20 cait hehe yes
10:20 rangi i wish it was as easy as just adding a column :)
10:20 cait ok
10:20 rangi yeah just writing that now
10:20 cait hm the mail about hourly loan rule - point to the rfc on the wiki?
10:18 cait yes, I see your patch on the 3.2.x branch
10:18 rangi ill ask if he has tried 3.2.3
10:16 rangi so wouldnt be in 3.2.2, but in 3.2.3
10:16 rangi added to 3.2.x in january
10:15 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=5542
10:13 rangi hi magnuse
10:13 rangi yeah
10:12 magnuse hiya cait and rangi and #koha
10:12 cait hi magnuse
10:12 cait I have no install with icu on master :(
10:12 rangi he reckons he has tried all versions but ill check when it was fixed
10:12 cait in which version?
10:12 cait ah
10:12 rangi the availability limit was broken
10:12 rangi i did fix limits
10:11 cait we are using 3.2.2 - but I think there should not have changed much
10:11 rangi cool
10:11 cait I will leave a comment that it's not working for us
10:11 cait he already filed a bug
10:11 cait was checking the mailing list
10:10 rangi do you want to reply or shall i?
10:10 rangi right
10:09 cait https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=dvd
10:08 cait although there were no checkouts visible on the first page
10:08 cait no results
10:08 cait I search something - click on the limit
10:08 rangi cool, if you could confirm he should definitely file a bug
10:08 cait *sighs*
10:08 cait it doens't
10:07 cait no
10:07 rangi ;)
10:07 rangi if you could check and reply if it does (or doesnt) that would be excellent
10:07 cait I wondered about that myself - we never got complaints, but that doesn't mean it works
10:06 rangi and the availability filter works?
10:06 cait the one with hebrew
10:06 cait hfjs.bsw-bw.de
10:06 cait hfjs
10:06 cait yes
10:02 rangi hey do you use icu in any of your libraries?
10:00 rangi thanks for changing the syspref name
09:49 cait hm, so it's 11 hours to nz and 6 to druthb
09:48 cait 11:48
09:48 rangi 22:48
09:48 rangi god i hate auto replies
09:48 cait what time is it for you know rangi?
09:47 cait totally missed it's changed this weekend
09:47 cait found out that we are in summer time now
09:44 rangi yup, about to go to sleep
09:29 cait it's getting late for you
09:28 cait hi rangi :)
09:22 rangi heh
09:11 cait what a welcome message :)
09:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3670 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, REOPENED, Why is DUE all caps on enhanced messages
09:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1962 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, REOPENED, Add fine notification during check-in
09:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5954 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED, 490$a not placed in link to search serials when XSLT defined
09:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5940 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, Update Help Files for 3.4
09:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5930 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, improving/modifying authority display on OPAC
09:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5926 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Authorities : Fixing Hierarchies : taking any heading subfield
09:10 jenkins_koha * Ian Walls: Bug 3670 Followup: fixes message preference form
09:10 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 1962: Add new syspref FineNotifyAtCheckin
09:10 jenkins_koha * ruth@bywatersolutions.com: Bug 5954: 490$a not used to create search link in XSLT
09:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 5940: Catalog and Cataloging Help Files for 3.4
09:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 5940: Update Patron Help Files
09:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5932 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, subroutine itemdata to be replaced in C4::Serials
09:10 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 5930 : improving/modifying authority display on OPAC
09:10 jenkins_koha * Henri-Damien LAURENT: Bug 5926 : Fixing Hierarchies : taking any heading subfield
09:10 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 5932 Remove itemdata sub from C4::Serials
09:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #78: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/78/
08:30 jenkins_koha Starting build 78 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:30 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
08:30 rangi @later tell druthb you might want to fix your real name in your git config
08:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3670' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a4b2280b6be100727e5d6f85b9e6fe58392febf0> / Bug 3670 Followup: fixes message preference form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3884e1693fcab4615362cb339262bb160479ccdc> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_1962' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=
07:12 rangi hmm
03:13 rangi once we get rid of yui that will be nice too
03:12 rangi the less we have to bundle the better :)
03:08 jcamins Yeah, it seems to.
03:08 rangi and I think the json fix allows us to
03:07 rangi much nicer if we can use the debian version with its security fixes
03:06 rangi yep
03:06 jcamins If you aren't using packages, the included version of of jQuery is used.
03:06 rangi heh
03:06 jcamins Also, I was looking at the wrong server.
03:05 jcamins rangi: no, it doesn't seem to be.
03:05 rangi im not sure its needed now with the json fix
02:40 jcamins Never mind.
02:40 jcamins That's weird.
02:39 jcamins Well.
02:37 jcamins Wait, was Robin's jQuery hack pushed?
02:30 rangi right kids awake, bbiab
02:30 kmkale hi rangi
02:30 rangi (it wont downgrade the db of course, put will put the code back at that version)
02:29 kmkale hi jcamins
02:29 jcamins Oh, good. That's easy.
02:29 rangi sudo dpkg -i olderversion
02:29 rangi yep
02:26 jcamins What do you do if a patch you're testing breaks the package? Is it possible to downgrade?
02:26 jcamins No, wrong question.
02:25 jcamins rangi: how do you test patches that only apply to packages?
02:24 kmkale Namaskar #koha
02:12 rangi heh
02:12 * druthb is only aware of The Big Game because her boss said it was so.
02:06 brendan_ WOW go Uconn!!!!
01:50 pastebot "jcamins" at 208.120.0.116 pasted "Query on old_issues" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/185
01:47 jcamins That's pretty bad too.
01:47 rangi jcamins: what kills us, is ordering on columns without indexes
01:47 rangi heh
01:46 druthb Unicorn-- #for mangling MARC records on export and putting junque in position 22!
01:46 jcamins Hello.
01:46 rangi hi druthb
01:45 druthb o/
01:45 rangi but if you do a bunch of bad joins yep that will happen
01:45 rangi well, i spec db machines to have more ram than the db
01:44 jcamins And if your resultset includes the entire biblioitems table, you won't have enough RAM. :)
01:44 rangi if you dont have enough ram for temporary tables for your result set, you'll end up doing a filesort
01:43 jcamins Ah, that's good, then.
01:43 rangi not with innodb it doesnt
01:43 jcamins Really? According to the book I was reading, TEXT requires filesort.
01:42 rangi same with a varchar
01:42 rangi they only require filesort if you dont have enough ram
01:42 jcamins Ugh. There is no way to remove biblioitems from the query on the OPAC side.
01:41 jcamins And they're somewhat less than ideal for searching.
01:41 jcamins Even if they're entirely *empty*.
01:41 jcamins No, but they require filesort.
01:40 rangi they dont use much more disk space than a varchar
01:40 rangi (text columns)
01:40 rangi not sure that really matters these days
01:40 rangi yep no need to do it twice
01:40 jcamins Incidentally, we have way too many TEXT columns.
01:39 rangi the question is, do we really need the subtitle at that level, when people can click on the title if they want
01:39 jcamins Okay, but *twice*?
01:39 jcamins Nope.
01:39 rangi the way we store data now, theres no way to get the subtitle without getting the marc
01:38 jcamins I'll check again.
01:38 jcamins Wait, I don't think...
01:38 jcamins No.
01:37 rangi ah, has it changed recently?
01:37 jcamins No, I mean, I don't understand how the code worked last week.
01:37 rangi pre MARC stored in koha
01:36 rangi table
01:36 rangi joined with the biblio, and biblioitems
01:36 rangi used the subtitle table
01:36 rangi didnt touch marc at all
01:36 jcamins I have *no idea* how it worked before.
01:36 jcamins Actually, we were retrieving the entire MARC record twice.
01:36 rangi yep
01:35 jcamins To get the subtitle.
01:35 jcamins Actually, what I find most horrifying is the fact that we retrieve the entire MARC record for every single one on the OPAC side.
01:35 rangi silly
01:35 rangi yep, get all then just show 50
01:34 jcamins Well, how it's used.
01:34 jcamins Yes.
01:34 rangi GetAllIssues?
01:34 jcamins Oh, the horror!
01:34 rangi build even
01:33 rangi so you can specialised ones if you need to
01:33 rangi and it will make them for whatever branch you are on
01:33 jcamins Yeah, that was the step that was missing.
01:32 rangi yeah
01:32 rangi its pretty easy once you install pbuilder
01:32 jcamins It's really cool!
01:32 jcamins Yup.
01:32 rangi with debian/build-git-snapshot ?
01:32 jcamins I also looked again at the innards of GetAllIssues.
01:32 jcamins I figured out how to make packages.
01:30 * jcamins waves
01:27 rangi afternoon