Time  Nick              Message
03:44 rangi             @later tell gmcharlt we are missing a bot
03:44 rangi             heh, that wont work
03:44 rangi             cos thats the bot we are missing
03:44 AmitG             space_librarian: India
03:45 space_librarian   Yes? India should beat Australia. Well, I *really* hope they do. Aus have been inconsistent in form of late...
03:45 jenkins_koha      Starting build 58 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:46 rangi             137 people now have committed code to Koha
03:46 kmkale            hi rangi
03:46 * rangi           just added 2 more to the history file
03:46 kmkale            hi AmitG
03:46 kmkale            hi space_librarian
03:46 space_librarian   hi kmkale!
03:46 AmitG             heya kmkale
03:47 kmkale            Kohacon11 registrations : 92 from 15 countries so far :)
03:47 rangi             excellent!
03:47 space_librarian   yay!
03:47 kmkale            http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/ocs/index.php/k/k11/schedConf/registration
03:48 * space_librarian remembers she needs to do something about a paper herself...
03:48 kmkale            space_librarian: :)
03:48 * kmkale          is searching for rangi's registration :(
03:48 rangi             still have to figure out if i can make it, wont know for a month or 2
03:48 space_librarian   I know I've registered, I just need to submit something.
03:49 kmkale            Kohacon without chris? :(
03:49 space_librarian   +1
03:49 space_librarian   there's always a live feed if necessary...
03:50 rangi             i could do what olugbenga did at kohacon10
03:50 kmkale            Not the same.
03:50 kmkale            rangi I implore you to make it.
03:50 rangi             like i said, i wont know if i can or not for a couple of months
03:52 * kmkale          is good at pestering ;)
03:55 * space_librarian wishes kmkale luck
03:58 rangi             ahh its not me you have to convince, it will be the people who pay the bills, and my wife
04:01 kmkale            let me at them. :)
04:04 rangi             http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-03-21
04:05 rangi             check out the new filtering by nick
04:12 kmkale            cool
04:13 kmkale            rangi++
04:25 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #58: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/58/
04:25 jenkins_koha      Chris Cormack: Adding 2 more developers to the history 137 now!
04:25 jenkins_koha      Starting build 59 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
05:05 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #59: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/59/
05:05 jenkins_koha      * Jesse Weaver: Bug 4878 - Command-line tool for getting and setting sysprefs
05:05 jenkins_koha      * Savitra Sirohi: Bug 5466 - Acquisitions - ability to set currency in order screens
05:05 jenkins_koha      * Colin Campbell: Bug 5466 On new orders get currency from vendor
06:28 glernil           good day!
06:36 rangi             hi glernil
06:36 rangi             hi eythian_
06:36 eythian_          hullo
06:38 eythian_          rangi: think I can arrange to have the aircon turned up at work for when I arrive? I think I'll freeze otherwise.
06:38 rangi             heh
06:38 rangi             you acclimatised now?
06:39 eythian_          yeah :/
06:39 eythian_          turning the AC off because it's too cold when it's set to 25...
06:41 rangi             wont take long to switch back id imagine
06:42 eythian_          probably not, no. Also, the weekend in Nelson will be a nice in-between.
06:42 rangi             yep
07:02 eythian_          I am never complaining about the cost of internet in NZ again - here it's NZ$50 for 7days/250MB
07:02 * eythian_        just ran out of his first quota
07:05 rangi             youch
07:05 rangi             yeah, we certainly arent the worst in the world
07:08 rangi             right i now have a branch that tracks master, but is running template::toolkit, so im mirroring the changes to master and there
07:08 rangi             http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new/enh/bug_5917
07:08 rangi             i need to get people testing it
07:08 eythian_          I made the mistake of demoing installing the koha packages by removing them from my system and reinstalling them. Forgetting they'd take about an hour to download here.
07:09 rangi             ack
07:09 rangi             things to remember for next time
07:09 rangi             timor etc
07:10 rangi             take a usb stick with the git repo checked out on it
07:10 rangi             plus a bunch of packages :)
07:10 rangi             hmm i wonder if we could make a bootable usb stick, with the git repo and pbuilder on it
07:11 rangi             fetch a few git changes is much less bandwidth
07:12 eythian_          not a silly idea
07:13 eythian_          shouldn't be too hard, I already carry a bootable usb stick with Ubuntu NBR on it.
07:13 rangi             *nod*
07:15 rangi             farasat was asking about the livecd again, we need to somehow find time to do that too
07:16 eythian_          really do, yeah
07:16 rangi             i wonder if we can get some sponsorship for work like that packaging etc
07:16 rangi             like i got for release management
07:16 eythian_          that'd be good
07:18 eythian_          oh, SICHE is keen on something to archive digital records: turns out that being a developing country, they have free access to download a certain amount of things from places like proquest, so they want to make the best use of it while they can.
07:18 eythian_          so if you have any ideas on that front...
07:18 eythian_          I also mentioned the thing about integrating digital archiving stuff into Koha, but with the proviso it won't be in the near future.
07:18 rangi             yeah
07:19 rangi             anything that gives you a persistent url
07:19 rangi             you can then catalogue in koha
07:19 rangi             so have a unified search
07:19 eythian_          that's what I said, although I think they want to archive it locally. The ideal would be something that can host stuff and (semi-)automatically import the record into Koha with the correct URL
07:19 rangi             so dspace, fedora, kete etc
07:20 rangi             with a bit of work, so that the last bit of the submit redirects you to the cataloguing page in koha, with 856u prefilled
07:21 rangi             somethign like that
07:22 eythian_          yeah, or loads records into the staging area perhaps.
07:22 rangi             yep
07:23 rangi             itd mostly need work at the digital library end
07:24 rangi             not koha
07:24 eythian_          yeah, exporting something that can be transmogrified into a MARC record easily, and a bit of glue to put it into Koha
07:24 rangi             yep
07:24 rangi             dublin core would work
07:24 rangi             theres a crosswalk to convert from it to marc21
07:24 rangi             at least
07:25 eythian_          that'd be alright. And nicer to work with than MARC.
07:26 eythian_          (well, I'd hope)
07:27 rangi             yeah
07:30 AmitG             heya indradg
07:31 indradg           AmitG, morning!
07:42 rangi             chris.hall++
07:42 rangi             his script allows me to do this
07:43 rangi             http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2b666eeb0878314916b8186f8fc63bfd9cfeffe
07:43 rangi             track changes in the .tmpl and apply them to the .tt files
07:43 indradg           w00t!
07:43 rangi             without that, my life would be a nightmare
07:43 indradg           :)
07:43 rangi             http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new/enh/bug_5917
07:43 rangi             tracks master
07:43 rangi             but uses template::toolkit
07:44 rangi             i would appreciate anyone who has time testing it
07:45 jenkins_koha      Starting build 60 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:47 rangi             kf++ # one of the best commit messages ive seen in quite a while
07:50 rangi             check this out http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=e1654e1aa148303fde0d30360f533be26b3029d3
07:54 rangi             julian: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c523ae2d646350996efa9cfc1e6149e1f1fac722;hp=0499633a6b27d44bf002bc4d99b82ee63237a001
07:54 julian            hello rangi
07:55 julian            yeah \o/
07:56 rangi             :)
08:12 francharb         hello all
08:14 rangi             hi francharb and paul_p
08:15 paul_p            hello rangi & al
08:16 rangi             paul_p: did some work on 5581 today http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencytree.cgi?id=5581&hide_resolved=1
08:17 paul_p            yes, I saw the mails on bugs ml
08:24 rangi             sophie_m: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c523ae2d646350996efa9cfc1e6149e1f1fac722;hp=0499633a6b27d44bf002bc4d99b82ee63237a001
08:25 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #60: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/60/
08:25 jenkins_koha      Frédéric Demians: Bug 5065 Add ability to choose framework on import
08:25 sophie_m          :-)
08:25 jenkins_koha      Starting build 61 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:27 kmkale            heya paul_p
08:28 * paul_p          feel kmkale will remember him that he still hasn't send the mail for KohaCon :'((( (and he will be right...)
08:28 paul_p            hi kmkale !
08:28 kmkale            :)
08:32 * kmkale          is good at pestering, as said already ;)
09:04 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #61: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/61/
09:04 jenkins_koha      * Katrin Fischer: Bug 5834: Holds link missing when 942$c is not for loan
09:04 jenkins_koha      * Frédéric Demians: Bug 5610 Script to force borr transport defaults messaging
09:04 jenkins_koha      * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5610: Add --since for setting messaging to default
10:09 conan             good morning all
11:12 Soomro            hi all
11:12 Soomro            I want to install Koha on ubuntu version 10
11:13 Soomro            Im new user of linux, can any body sent me simple installation instruction steps for installing koha
11:16 Soomro            can any body help me?
11:21 Soomro            is there any body?
11:41 conan             Soomro: there's a page on the subject in the wiki: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu
12:24 kmkale            @quote random
12:36 kmkale            @quote random
12:36 kmkale            huh. It seems the bots are on a strike
13:53 jcamins           Isn't it supposed to be getting spring-like?
13:53 sekjal            jcamins:  I know!  it's snowing here, again
13:54 jcamins           It keeps on going back and forth between pouring rain and snow.
13:54 jcamins           The gale-force winds are constant.
13:55 cait              hi #kohq
13:55 cait              koha
13:55 druthb            we had a fierce rainstorm this morning, but it has stopped.
13:55 cait              sunshine...
13:56 cait              @wunder Heilbronn
13:56 cait              hm.
14:03 jcamins           ben_shum++ # I'd never heard of ClusterSSH, but it sounds awesome!
14:05 indradg           jcamins, yep ClusterSSH is indeed an awesome tool :)
14:39 gmcharlt          @quote random
14:39 huginn            gmcharlt: Quote #99: "slef: #kohaaaaargh for PTFS blog posts?" (added by wizzyrea at 07:10 PM, October 11, 2010)
14:40 wizzyrea          hehe
14:40 wizzyrea          that one makes me laugh
14:41 gmcharlt          @wunder 32605
14:41 huginn            gmcharlt: The current temperature in Central Gainesville, Gainesville, Florida is 20.8�C (10:41 AM EDT on March 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Steady).
14:43 druthb            @quote random
14:43 huginn            druthb: Quote #61: "*wizzyrea doesn't like hoity toity technical talk...<wizzyrea> wait, that's a lie" (added by jdavidb at 05:19 PM, February 24, 2010)
14:46 wizzyrea          heh
16:19 tcohen            hi #koha
16:19 wizzyrea          hi tcohen :)
16:24 jcamins           wizzyrea: is the exact problem reported in bug 3382 still a problem?
16:24 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3382 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Add classes to XSLT results and detail displays to facilitate CSS styling
16:24 wizzyrea          let me look
16:25 jcamins           Thanks.
16:27 jcamins           Warning: current Master is broken.
16:27 wizzyrea          yup, it's totally fixed
16:27 wizzyrea          (I looked at our production, which is close enough)
16:28 wizzyrea          to Master
16:28 jcamins           Okay, don't close the bug because I'm using it.
16:28 wizzyrea          oki
16:30 jcamins           @later tell rangi Commit ddbedbfc2f17bff016736afb5beae39a768a298a (paul_p's fix for Bug 4430) broke Master for git installs by adding Makefile to the repository.
16:30 huginn            jcamins: The operation succeeded.
16:31 jcamins           @later tell rangi (and I don't really know what to do about it other than tell you)
16:31 huginn            jcamins: The operation succeeded.
16:32 gmcharlt          jcamins: sending a quick patch removing the Makefile might make it easier for rangi
16:32 jcamins           gmcharlt: can I do that without breaking everyone's installation further?
16:34 gmcharlt          jcamins: not sure what you mean; the problem is pretty simple - there should be no Makefile in the root of the source tree; a patch that removes the file will solve the immediate problem
16:35 jcamins           Okay.
16:35 gmcharlt          as far as consequences if somebody had run make in their dev-mode git repo, I assume it should be limited just to those people who had installed from git since yesterday
16:37 jcamins           Okay, thanks.
16:37 * jcamins         still finds much of git to be an enigmatic black box.
16:47 jcamins           @later tell rangi Sorry for all the messages. I sent a patch, since gmcharlt sensed my confusion and told me what to do.
16:47 huginn            jcamins: The operation succeeded.
16:47 druthb            jcamins++
16:47 druthb            gmcharlt++
16:52 gmcharlt          @later tell slef wrt http://groups.google.com/group/gcs-pcs-list/browse_thread/thread/5c28b750f9cbc3c0, I'm curious - is unapi's use of the <abbr> tag (like is done in Koha) an issue in practice for screen readers?
16:52 huginn            gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
17:34 jcamins           Can an element have more than one class?
17:36 gmcharlt          jcamins: <span class="my_class your_class everybody_has_a_class" ...
17:37 jcamins           Thanks.
17:52 * chris_n         is glad to see somebody still has some class ;-)
17:54 gmcharlt          we are all educators in this life, teaching each other
17:56 rangi             how the hell did I miss seeing the makefile
17:56 chris_n           sleep deprivation perhaps?
17:56 tcohen            too much coffee
17:56 chris_n           more likely not enough ;-)
17:57 rangi             ahh it was in the pile of copyright changes
17:57 rangi             my bad, i didnt pay enough attention as I thought they were all just comment changes, checked the first few
17:57 rangi             will push the fix now, thanks jcamins
17:58 cait              hi all :)
17:58 chris_n           hi cait
17:58 jcamins           Thanks.
17:58 cait              hi chris_n
18:00 rangi             hi cait
18:00 rangi             new/enh/bug_5917
18:00 cait              hi rangi :)
18:00 cait              bug 5917
18:00 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit
18:00 jenkins_koha      Starting build 62 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:00 rangi             this branch tracks master, but is running template toolkit
18:01 rangi             after the feature freeze, it will become master (1st of april nz time)
18:01 cait              oh
18:01 cait              so soon?
18:01 rangi             and a new branch will be created (just before that) so that i can apply old patches to it
18:01 rangi             yes
18:01 chris_n           if an item with a hold on it is checked into a branch other than its homebranch, shouldn't the hold notice still be sent?
18:02 rangi             ill write an email today
18:02 rangi             1st is feature freeze
18:02 rangi             8th is string freeze
18:02 rangi             22nd is release
18:02 chris_n           AutomaticItemReturn is enabled
18:02 cait              makes sense
18:02 chris_n           rangi++
18:02 cait              why does time run so fast?
18:02 cait              rangi++
18:02 rangi             all patches submitted before 1st are eligible still
18:03 cait              ok
18:03 rangi             but any new features submitted after that, will have to wait
18:03 cait              so I still have a chance for some smaller projects :)
18:03 * chris_n         's librarians are complaining about hold notices not being processed in such situations
18:03 rangi             yep, and i will accept patches for .tmpl files, as chris.hall wrote a script that lets me convert them easy
18:04 rangi             http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=c2b666eeb0878314916b8186f8fc63bfd9cfeffe
18:04 * rangi           has been practicing
18:04 cait              cool :)
18:08 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Remove errant Makefile and pm_to_blib from repo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5ba37bb9ab4d315077ed79d078f11de702e9dc2>
18:08 cait              rangi: I think a lot of the proposed features on the wiki have not been submitted :(
18:08 rangi             no, no they havent
18:08 cait              we should update those pages after feature freeze
18:08 rangi             yep
18:08 rangi             gotta go get the kids ready for kindergarten
18:08 cait              and there is still a lot of things that need testing
18:09 rangi             yes, thats why im freezing at 1st
18:09 jcamins           I know we don't believe in cleaning code just for the heck of it, but what if we have 20 lines of duplicate code differing only by the string "target='_blank'"?
18:09 cait              kindergarten :)
18:09 jcamins           Can I *please* fix it?
18:09 rangi             theres no way it will all get tested otherwise
18:09 rangi             jcamins: we do believe in cleaning code for the heck of it
18:09 rangi             we dont believe in mixing code cleaning
18:09 rangi             and functional changes in one patch
18:10 rangi             or doing a wholesale perltidy
18:10 jcamins           rangi: Ah.
18:10 jcamins           Got it.
18:10 rangi             so go right ahead
18:10 * rangi           wanders
18:10 rangi             off
18:39 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #62: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/62/
18:39 jenkins_koha      Jared Camins-Esakov: Remove errant Makefile and pm_to_blib from repo
18:41 rangi             back
18:41 cait              :)
18:50 rangi             crowded bus today
18:52 rangi             hi conan
18:53 conan             hi there rangi, and everybody again
18:55 wizzyrea          hi conan
18:55 conan             Q: I'm looking for db structure graphics and/or explanation/synthesis, didn't find much in a general search, and looking in the community wiki I see that there are no new info on koha > 3.0.3
18:55 conan             so my question is
18:56 conan             are those documents accurate, I mean, has the DB changed too much to make those documents obsolete, or can they be studied ?
18:58 conan             I also found this: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/RFC-Koha-3-2-Koha-E-R-diagrams-and-tables-information-td3066924.html
18:58 conan             but it seems that project died
18:59 rangi             you can study them but there has been changes
18:59 rangi             look at the kohastructure.sql file
19:02 rangi             in installer/data
19:02 rangi             my stop bbiab
19:04 sekjal            passing kohastructure.sql through the program SQLFairy would help... but the map is HUGE
19:04 conan             rangi: I'be been perusing that one.  But I also was wondering if I could find some sort of graphic thingy to show relations and stuff
19:04 conan             I always go to the proper sql for the details
19:08 conan             I guess what's on wiki should suffice, but I didn't wanted to start looking at them before asking for current versions
19:08 conan             (should suffice as introduction)
19:12 rangi             adding to it, and fixing it, would be hugely useful
19:14 conan             :)
19:14 conan             one step at a time
19:15 conan             I still need to do a proper presentation on the list
19:15 rangi             well, you are bound to notice easy fixes (a new column etc)
19:15 conan             but I need to know first what my new boss really wants about koha
19:15 rangi             documenting that on the wiki is a start :)
19:16 conan             oh! that should be easy, I'll get sure to make notes should I find changes, so then I can write them on wiki
19:17 rangi             cool
19:17 rangi             also
19:17 rangi             can you read perl?
19:18 conan             I'm relearning it
19:18 conan             haven't touched perl since 1998
19:19 rangi             chhttp://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-catalyst.git;a=tree;f=C4/Schema/Result;h=6dfa7cbc7c9554d0f7f00f97693685a53c9a8b60;hb=868d79545d12af6a87d878d70564d12ad6ae0410
19:19 conan             so I started from zero again
19:19 cait              jcamins: around?
19:19 rangi             check out the files in there
19:19 rangi             or at least the pod
19:19 jcamins           cait: I am.
19:20 cait              jcamis: did you check if enumchron shows up for serial records?
19:20 cait              I think it does or did
19:20 jcamins           It doesn't seem to show up at all.
19:21 cait              hm
19:21 jcamins           This isn't in the table, but in the moredetail.pl items detail page.
19:21 jcamins           I wrote a patch and sent it to my coworkers to sign off on.
19:21 cait              ah
19:21 cait              which screen?
19:21 cait              not the edit items table and not the record detail page?
19:21 cait              but?
19:21 wahanui           but is teh free?
19:21 jcamins           wahanui: forget but
19:21 wahanui           jcamins: I forgot but
19:22 jcamins           cait: view a record, then click on the "Items" tab.
19:22 jcamins           It will show you all the items in an expanded format.
19:24 cait              ah thx
19:29 conan             rangi: I can't find that 'Schema' dir in my local git repo, I just did a pull
19:30 rangi             you wont
19:30 rangi             wip/koha-catalyst.git
19:30 conan             that's another branch?
19:30 rangi             git remore add catalyst-wip git://git.koha-community.org/wip/koha-catalyst.git
19:31 rangi             another repo
19:31 rangi             http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
19:31 conan             ah! so that's new work
19:32 conan             will it be pushed upstream someday? or this is something completely different?
19:32 rangi             probably go upstream one day
19:32 rangi             maybe for 3.4 if I have time, for 3.6 if i dont
19:33 rangi             but for now, i just thought it might be a more readable schema for you
19:34 conan             rangi: thanks, I have so much to read, I know I'm asking too many question
19:35 rangi             theres no such thing as too many questions
19:35 rangi             unless its the same one over and over ;)
19:40 cait              the library I visited today asked about a message "x items waiting for pickup" when the borrower returns books
19:40 cait              and there are holds waiting for him
19:40 wizzyrea          interesting, like something on the screen?
19:41 rangi             that wouldnt be hard to do
19:41 wizzyrea          or an email?
19:41 wahanui           an email is weird, theres about a million reasons why you may not have got it yet
19:41 wizzyrea          wahanui: forget email
19:41 wahanui           wizzyrea: I forgot email
19:42 wizzyrea          email is weird
19:42 wizzyrea          email?
19:42 wahanui           email is probably weird
19:42 wizzyrea          mhm, I agree
19:42 wizzyrea          cait: my thought about that, well, at least for our libraries
19:43 wizzyrea          is that lots of times return happens and the patron isn't standing there
19:43 cait              sorry, on the screen yes
19:43 wizzyrea          (they put their books in the bin)
19:43 cait              you return a book and get a message on top that there are books waiting for this patron
19:43 cait              so you can ask for his library card and check them out
19:44 wizzyrea          I see why they would want that
19:44 cait              would the message disturb checking in books fromthe bin?
19:45 cait              should it be controlled by a syspref?
19:45 wizzyrea          I don't think so... would it clutter up the return screen?
19:45 wizzyrea          (and would it, probably more importantly, slow down returns?)
19:45 wizzyrea          (fetching more data)
19:45 rangi             yes, yes and yes
19:45 cait              hm
19:45 rangi             so a syspref is my vote
19:46 rangi             can be on by default
19:46 rangi             but there should be the option to turn it off
19:46 cait              ok
19:46 rangi             for those who find it annoying
19:46 wizzyrea          slow returns = bad
19:47 rangi             it wouldnt be much slower, you have most of that info already
19:47 rangi             it would more be clutter
19:47 rangi             but i think a lot of libraries would like it
19:47 rangi             and hey, we can allow ppl to turn it off, problem solved
19:47 cait              hehe
19:47 cait              show waiting items on return?
19:48 wizzyrea          yea, I think they would too... I wish that there was a return screen that only did returns/holds for that person charged with emptying the bin
19:48 wizzyrea          something superfast
19:48 wizzyrea          maybe even batch
19:49 cait              scan all barcodes and return at once? probably difficult for printing the holds /transfer slips
19:50 wizzyrea          well yea, that's what I always come up against
19:50 wizzyrea          we can't even make that work on the circ screen :P
19:50 wizzyrea          er haven't yet
19:50 wizzyrea          you'd probably have to do something like
19:50 wizzyrea          pop out a list of the exceptions
19:51 wizzyrea          "you need to do more to these"
19:51 jcamins           Mmm. This sourdough is very... errr... sour. :D
19:52 wizzyrea          nom
19:52 wizzyrea          we made the oatmeal cookies again this weekend, jcamins
19:52 rangi             mail to the dev list sent
19:53 jcamins           Much better than my last attempt (which wasn't _bad_, but wasn't nearly sour enough).
19:53 rangi             read it, learn it, live it
19:53 jcamins           wizzyrea: mmmm.
19:53 cait              rangi? the mail?
19:54 rangi             yes
19:54 jcamins           cait: sourdough, too. It is not just a food in the Camins household. It's a way of life. ;)
19:54 cait              lol
19:54 cait              ok
19:54 * cait            will not tell that she doesn't like sourdough much
19:54 cait              ah
19:54 * cait            hides
19:56 jcamins           :)
19:58 rangi             who has 5 mins free?
19:58 rangi             anyone want to fix my typo and post the mail on the website?
19:58 rangi             :)
20:02 wizzyrea          i got it
20:02 rangi             thanks
20:22 wizzyrea          does anyone know, and I'm sorry i may have asked this before... the hold queue report: does it or does it not favor the library of the patron who has the hold?
20:25 * jcamins         doesn't think it favors the patron's home library, but he might be mistaken.
20:26 jcamins           Is it possible to delete a vendor?
20:26 rangi             i dont think it does currently
20:26 rangi             jcamins: not sure, i think you just make them inactive jcamins
20:27 cait              jcamins: no you can't delete them- I wrote a bug report about htat
20:27 cait              you can only make them inactive
20:27 wizzyrea          rangi: posted
20:27 wizzyrea          (complete with typo correction ;))
20:27 rangi             it would be an enhancement, for deletion and it would have to be done very very very very very very very carefully
20:27 rangi             because as soon as you delete a vendor
20:28 rangi             you lose acquisition history for any item received from them
20:28 cait              bug 4969
20:28 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4969 minor, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Vendors can not be deleted / show only active vendors
20:28 jcamins           Ahh, good point.
20:28 rangi             thats why you cant do it currently
20:29 rangi             It strikes me you might want to flag a bookseller as inactive, i.e. retained
20:29 rangi             for historic info but flagged as not to use for new orders
20:29 rangi             is the last comment, and yes, thats what we do :)
20:29 rangi             deleting is very dangerous
20:36 jcamins           Doesn't Koha support running reports in a batch?
20:36 jcamins           I think I remember reading about that feature, but I can't seem to find it now.
20:37 rangi             in a batch?
20:37 rangi             not that im aware of
20:37 sekjal            there is the cron script, which can take in multiple report numbers to run
20:38 jcamins           Ah, maybe that's what I was thinking of.
21:10 cait              good night all
21:34 sekjal            goodnight, #koha
21:44 jcamins           Time for me to call it a day too, I think.
21:44 jcamins           Good night, #koha
22:50 rangi             magnuse++ # thanks for the dvd!!!!
22:54 LBA1              can anyone tell me why I am LBA1 today?  I'm using Pidgin.
22:56 jcamins_away      LBA1: did you identify yourself to nickserv?
23:06 LBA1              I guess not...I just joined the chat.  I used to automatically get logged into the chat AND get identified by nickserv so not sure what I've changed.
23:07 * jcamins_away    hasn't figure out why sometimes he's automatically identified and sometimes isn't, but that was his only idea.