Time Nick Message 23:59 mtj and a munin zebra_queue graph, could be useful too 23:58 mtj ive been thinking of a munin plugin to monitor issue/returns graphing for … ages 23:57 mtj eythian: sweet news 23:55 * druthb just got handed a signal honor. I'm lovin' this. 23:53 * druthb dances around happily. 23:42 eythian that gets info from the guts of koha, e.g. makes sure search is working, etc. 23:42 * eythian is just looking at plans to build a proper monitoring system 23:41 mtj yeah, its a good one for host-down type alerts/emails, etc 23:39 druthb mtj: We've been deploying that, actually...jcamins has been working on that. :) 23:39 cait bye all 23:39 cait time to sleep 23:38 mtj druthb: pssst... nagios 23:24 rangi np 23:24 druthb The demo seems to be back up; it is responding, and answering search requests. Thanks again, rangi. 23:17 cait yay :) 23:16 rangi yay! 23:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.2.x build #6: FIXED in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/6/ 23:16 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 23:16 druthb Hm...so it does. Thanks for letting me know, rangi. I have told it to reboot itself; let's see what happens. 23:11 rangi http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/ <-- appears to be down 23:11 cait hi druthb 23:10 druthb uhoh. 23:10 rangi druthb: ahhh just the woman :) 23:04 * mtj has plans for a demo site too 23:03 space_librarian good to know 23:03 rangi different 23:03 rangi the bywater ones are running master, mykoha is running 3.2.x 23:03 space_librarian great. massacres averted. 23:02 eythian I really need to update the database on that some time 23:02 eythian space_librarian: http://demo.mykoha.co.nz 23:02 eythian space_librarian: because our one isn't on there :) 22:59 space_librarian any reason why the demo sites on the Koha-community page are down? Or is it just me? 22:55 rangi heya brendan_ 22:43 jenkins_koha Starting build 6 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #3 8 j 22 h ago) 22:25 cait yeah, requires some testing - 22:24 mtj but i'd have to check 22:24 mtj ah, great question, i think 'branch A' 22:23 cait he does renew on opac: which rule is taken? 22:23 cait mtj: I know :) the problem is: borrower from branch b, checks out item owned by branch a at branch c 22:22 mtj 'Renewals Allowed (count)' 22:22 mtj cait: http://head.kohaaloha.com:8080/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl › http://head.kohaaloha.com:8080/cgi-bin/koha/admin/admin-home.pl › Circulation and Fine Rules 22:19 cait hm, someone awake who knows which circ rules are taken for opac reneals and if this can be configured? 22:12 cait jcamins_away: sleep well 22:12 eythian jcamins_away: cya 22:11 jcamins Good night, #koha 22:11 cait ok :) 22:11 eythian cait: that may be, it doesn't mean it's not something that I can fix for everyone else who does the same thing wrong ;) 22:11 eythian yeah, what I've been trying to do is have the koha package set up a default installation on top of koha-common, but it turned out to be harder than I thought, so it's still half finished. 22:10 cait eythian: I am quite sure it was something I have done wrong 22:10 cait I will try again sometime soon. I still have a clean snapshot 22:10 jcamins I've installed it successfully before, but maybe I used 'koha-common' 22:09 jcamins *'koha' 22:09 jcamins My problem must have been the koha package. 22:09 eythian if you try again and grab the errors, let me know, I'd be interested. I've been a bit too snowed under with work to do a lot of testing lately 22:09 eythian hmm OK 22:08 cait I think it was apache or me not ifguring out the right urls 22:08 cait yep, I got a bit farther with that 22:08 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_Up_Koha_in_Virtual_Environment_%2B_Using_That_as_a_Development_Environment#Step:_Install_Koha <-- this section is a good guide 22:07 cait and I am not sure I had the right settings in the conf file I created 22:07 eythian it should create a user 'libraryname-koha' 22:07 cait it did only work when there was a user called like my libraryname 22:06 eythian koha-common gives you a blank setup, you need to create a file (which I plan to include a default version of soon) and then koha-create *libraryname* should magically work 22:06 cait perhaps I can try to do it again when you are around? 22:06 cait um 22:06 eythian cait: and what errors did you get? 22:05 cait eythian: I used koha-common :( 22:05 jcamins We should probably note that 'koha-common' is preferred, even for simple installations. 22:05 jcamins Ah. 22:05 jcamins I guess I'll know for next time to use 'koha-common'? 22:05 eythian I don't use that, I just use koha-common. The koha package still needs a lot of polish that I haven't had time for 22:05 jcamins The latter. 22:05 eythian or, did you use the 'koha' package? 22:04 eythian koha-create is part of the package :) 22:04 jcamins I used the koha package. 22:04 eythian what about when running 'koha-create'? 22:04 jcamins And unfortunately I didn't think to copy the error I got when I tried to reindex. 22:03 jcamins It didn't give me any error on installation. 22:03 eythian Currently if the koha-create fails, you can end up with a half-created system that has to be cleaned up manually, it's a pain and something I intend to fix. 22:02 eythian jcamins: what was the error message it gave you? 22:02 cait me too :) 22:02 jcamins I was on Ubuntu, so maybe that's why. 22:01 cait and I managed to get a install I couldn't start nor koha-remove 22:01 cait yep it didn't 22:01 jcamins It didn't seem to create the user. 21:59 eythian I have it deployed and working on some of our systems 21:58 eythian jcamins: what problems did you have with it? 21:58 mtj back to it…. 21:58 cait good night magnuse! 21:58 mtj sleep well magnuse 21:57 mtj i have been 'very close' to finishing urgent client-werk, many many times, of course :) 21:57 magnuse g'night #koha 21:57 mtj such a silly thing to say, lol 21:56 mtj *nod* yep, me too 21:55 mtj ha, yeah - that was tempting fate! 21:55 cait everytime I say something like that my todo list fills up magically ;) 21:55 cait don't say that loud 21:55 cait uhoh 21:54 mtj i am very close to finishing my urgent client-werk backlog… the first time ever , for me 21:53 mtj as do i 21:53 * cait has to sign-off more patches... 21:52 mtj well, none of my ideas ideas are more important than the patch backlog, so i wont waffle on about them now 21:50 cait of course.. he leaves after he made me curious... 21:47 mtj but more on that later, im gonna switch to some vserver work now.... 21:45 cait :) 21:45 mtj and the kc.org website too 21:45 mtj and i really want a little time off, to do some of then 21:45 mtj i have been thinking of many programming ideas for the project, in general 21:44 magnuse hehe :-) 21:44 cait I consider that fun :) 21:44 cait marseille means working on patches and code (I hope!) 21:44 mtj ooh la la! 21:44 magnuse marseille... 21:43 magnuse just a little trip to mariseille? ;-) 21:43 cait mtj: I hope for that too - next 2 weeks will be a bit crazy, but not so many things planned after that yet 21:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5693 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, reed, REOPENED, if parentheses used in ccode then searches against ccode fail 21:42 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5693 : Follow up patch, escaping HTML in limit_cgi so "" dont break hrefs 21:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #42: SUCCESS in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/42/ 21:42 mtj hopefully have more time for Koha bugfixing/signing-off/sending-patches stuff 21:41 cait :) 21:41 mtj so i have a little breather now... 21:41 mtj just finished some months of busy work 21:40 mtj pretty good here 21:40 cait how are things on your side of the world? 21:39 cait have to prepare a few things for tomorrow 21:39 cait ;) 21:39 cait late! 21:37 mtj hows thing over there? 21:37 cait heya mtj 21:37 magnuse kia ora mtj 21:36 mtj heya cait and magnuse 21:09 cait not so much 21:09 cait hm 21:09 magnuse cait: had some fun with your project management? 21:08 jenkins_koha Starting build 42 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:08 cait magnuse: like me 21:07 cait chris_n: see your message, wonder why it does not work 21:07 magnuse cait: nope, more like "here again" ;-) 21:07 wahanui hmmm... here is where I work 21:07 cait still here? 21:06 cait hi magnuse 21:06 magnuse guten abend cait 21:06 cait hi all 21:04 magnuse nah, i think that last one would only work if they were all/both defined as one server - what i want is two different servers listening on the same port. back to mod_proxy! 21:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5693' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc2fe083fcc34742a1f80e3fb3df1ab4bd072ca1> / Bug 5693 : Follow up patch, escaping HTML in limit_cgi so "" dont break hrefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b5e18c4ee05941eab435d83c510d931dde34370> 21:00 magnuse hm, "element host (optional) - Specifies the virtual host for this server. If this is specified a client /must/ specify this host string in order to use this backend." not sure how to do that for a sru request? 20:57 rangi give that a try 20:56 rangi ohh maybe you can then 20:56 magnuse http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/zebrasrv.html seems to talk about creating virtual servers within <yazgfs> too: "In order to distinguish between the two a virtual host has been specified for each of server in the host elements."... 20:55 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 20:55 rangi @later tell chris_n you will want to cherry-pick the latest patch for bug 5693 20:55 rangi fixed now 20:54 rangi broke the facets too 20:54 rangi was a fairly nasty one, broke all the pagination for searches if you limited by itemtype 20:53 rangi signed off already 20:53 rangi nengard++ 20:52 rangi you'll start using it all over the place 20:52 schuster Can I get someone else to do that for me... LOL... 20:52 schuster ;) 20:51 rangi once you get your head around proxying 20:51 schuster dnat is something that buzzes around my head right? 20:49 magnuse yeah, right... ;-) 20:48 rangi :) 20:48 rangi think of it as DNAT 20:48 magnuse i see, thanks! 20:48 rangi and then mod_proxy to that 20:48 rangi no, run them on 9997 on localhost 20:47 magnuse do i have to open up 9997 and 9998 in iptables? or can apache "bridge" between 9999 and the "internal" ports? (not sure that made sense) 20:46 rangi or you could do the same with nginx 20:46 pastebot "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "sample proxying" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/173 20:45 magnuse ah hah, guess i better go read up on mod_proxy, then. thanks for the tip! 20:45 rangi something like this 20:45 rangi mod_proxying to the appropriate port 20:45 rangi and then get apache listening on 9999, with 2 virtual hosts 20:44 rangi yeah then you run them on different ports, 9997 and 9998 eg 20:44 rangi that make sense? 20:44 magnuse same ip... 20:44 rangi if they are different ips you just bind to that ip address 20:44 rangi with named virtualhosts, to proxy to the appropriate one 20:44 rangi then use mod_proxy in apache 20:43 rangi you start the sru servers on 2 different ports 20:43 rangi if they resolve to the same ip 20:43 rangi (the answer is yes you can, but if they are the same ip, it does involve more work) 20:42 rangi or 2 names that resolve to the same ip? 20:42 rangi they different ips? 20:42 magnuse two dev installs on the same box - is it possible to run two z39.50/sru servers on the same port, differentiated by hostname? so a.example.com:9999/biblios and b.example.com:9999/biblios would be two distinct servers? 20:39 rangi nengard: you signed off on the original patch so should be ok for you :-) 20:36 rangi this patch should fix this 20:36 rangi (using advanced search) 20:36 rangi then try going to page 2 20:35 rangi that fix for parentheses, broke the page number .. try doing a search and limit it to itemtype or ccode 20:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5693 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, reed, REOPENED, if parentheses used in ccode then searches against ccode fail 20:32 rangi bug 5693 20:32 rangi will be just hitting the list now 20:32 nengard rangi depends on the patch :) 20:32 wahanui the patch is probably pretty old now, good luck 20:32 jcamins rangi: what's the patch? 20:31 rangi anyone got time to sign a patch off for me? 20:18 huginn druthb: cait was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 22 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <cait> time to learn something about project management :) see you all later! 20:18 druthb @seen cait 19:34 schuster hehe... 19:33 chris_n hehe 19:33 wizzyrea :P indeed 19:33 rangi :P 19:33 rangi i just dont answer you when you are too boring 19:33 rangi im always here 19:33 rangi what 19:32 wizzyrea i've been wanting to, for days, make a National Geographic type comment regarding the elusive rangi ;) 19:32 * wizzyrea giggles 19:32 gmcharlt "and after many years of research, historians figured out that the practice of implanting keyboards in people's arms dates from this minor incident in 2011" 19:28 * slef and sekjal coordination comedy continues. sekjal afk today; slef afk tomorrow. Yay for asynchronous participation. 18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3670 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, Why is DUE all caps on enhanced messages 18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5819 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, RESOLVED FIXED, No toolbar in record view when quotes present in title 18:42 jenkins_koha * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.05.003 18:42 jenkins_koha * Nicole Engard: Bug 3670: change 'Item DUE' to 'Item Due' in English dbs 18:42 jenkins_koha * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 5819 : No toolbar in record view when quotes present in title - fix 18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5595 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, can't search 'searchable' patron attributes 18:42 jenkins_koha * Henri-Damien LAURENT: bug4438/MT5496 budget Exceeds total allocation 18:42 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5595 : Fixing a security glitch (please always use placeholders or 18:42 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Adding release dates and 2 new developers 18:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.2.x build #5: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/5/ 18:34 rangi the others are too depressing 18:34 rangi I'm only reading stories like that now 18:32 rangi http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/japan-earthquake/4768158/Student-cycles-through-Japanese-earthquake-rubble-to-get-to-NZ 18:31 wahanui oleonard is, like, the master UI designer of koha 18:31 chris_n heya oleonard 18:30 oleonard Hi rangi and chris_n 18:30 * chris_n must own a great part of the responsibility for that section of code :-S 18:30 jcamins chris_n++ # for daring to delve into the label creator code. 18:29 rangi yep 18:27 wizzyrea :( 18:27 chris_n man the ring of fire struck again, eh? 18:27 rangi cool 18:27 chris_n all pushed up 18:27 chris_n rangi: got it, tnx 18:26 rangi that should get the tests passing again 18:26 rangi chris_n: did you catch my fix for 5595 18:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit32: Updating Version Number to 3.02.05.003 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad89cd6b4abc3b3d9065e58116dee26f582b4fe5> / Bug 3670: change 'Item DUE' to 'Item Due' in English dbs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f957960483d71637a789a323bb42da289aba056> / Bug 5819 : No toolbar in record view when quotes present in title - fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/? 18:08 jenkins_koha Starting build 5 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #3 8 j 17 h ago) 17:54 huginn chris_n: The operation succeeded. 17:54 chris_n @later tell cait the patch for bug 1962 still does not apply; it appears the problem is in returns.tmpl about line 58 or so 17:49 chris_n cait: about? 17:46 jcamins Yeah, maximizing the panic is good. ;) 17:45 gmcharlt or something 17:45 gmcharlt very considerate, I guess 17:41 * jcamins theorizes it's because the cat knows that jcamins won't know what to do about really weird behaviors. 17:38 * jcamins wonders why his cat only engages in distressing behaviors when he's home alone with the cat. 17:20 * slef looks puzzledly at cait 17:19 slef tcohen: I think it's worth asking a list. I hope some librarians will answer 16:56 cait time to learn something about project management :) see you all later! 16:53 nengard k -then it's not xslt related, but they were there 16:53 cait and agree with oleonard and nengard - there should be a message to the user about tags pending approval 16:53 cait I think it's below the xslt display 16:53 jcamins I mean, it's done in Perl. 16:53 jcamins nengard: I don't think tags are displayed by the XSLT, are they? 16:52 oleonard Otherwise people will be trying to add tags they've already added. 16:52 oleonard I agree that it should behave as you remember it. 16:50 nengard it's not a big deal really, just something that was there in the normal view -back before we had XSLT (i think) 16:50 nengard cause i documented it as such in 3.0 16:49 nengard yup, i'm sure 16:49 oleonard nengard: Are you sure unapproved tags were showing up on the detail and results pages for the logged in user? I don't remember that, but I do remember that they showed up on the tags page. 16:41 tcohen the pieces i'm missing are: (a)warn vs. refusal (b) check outside ISBN databae (have no clue on where to check) 16:40 tcohen there is a javascript library (mit license) i will use fr checking ISBN validity 16:38 tcohen even if it is *incorrect* 16:38 tcohen we could also ask (webservice) if the ISBN is valid 16:38 tcohen if there was a database to check to 16:38 tcohen so I think we should warn 16:37 tcohen slef: the only use for this is notify the publisher there is a mistake 16:37 slef tcohen: also should we be validating the calculation or verifying it with some outside source? Bug report is a bit vague. 16:37 slef tcohen: I'm with you: what should we do? Warn? Refuse it? 16:36 wizzyrea please have a look there 16:36 wizzyrea mib_mu6462: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 16:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=906 enhancement, P2, ---, chris, NEW, ISBN Check 16:36 tcohen anyone wants to talk about bug 906 today? 16:35 mib_mu6462 and dont show me nothind 16:35 mib_mu6462 but i try search 16:35 mib_mu6462 record amount 16:34 jcamins ronald: you should look at that page that wahanui gave you the link for. 16:34 oleonard ronald: Someone suggested a link to you: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 16:34 ronald i install the new koha 16:34 ronald any someone help me? 16:34 ronald hi 16:33 oleonard What is your question mib_mu6462 ? 16:33 mib_mu6462 any someone help me? 16:33 mib_mu6462 ?? 16:31 * oleonard hopes ronald found the link useful 16:28 * wizzyrea channels rangi 16:28 wizzyrea if you want it to do it, 1. file a bug and 2. send a patch (if you can) 16:27 jcamins wizzyrea: that was the link that inspired chris to set up wahanui, I think. 16:27 Barrc Nope, I will though. I just wondered if anyone thinks it is a bug. The SIP 2 spec doesn't actually specify the requirement either way. Alot (all) other ILS that I know send back the title though 16:27 wahanui searching faq is probably at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 16:27 wizzyrea searching faq? 16:27 wizzyrea haha i forgot that wahanui had that one 16:27 ronald i have a problema whit the new koha...can someone help me 16:27 jcamins ronald: ^^ 16:27 wahanui searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 16:27 jcamins searching faq? 16:26 ronald dont search nothind 16:26 ronald i have a proble whit the new koha 16:26 ronald can someone help?? 16:26 ronald I can not see my searches 16:26 wizzyrea yes, sorry 16:26 Barrc wizzyrea: Is that to me? 16:26 wizzyrea at bugs.koha-community.org 16:26 ronald but i have a problem 16:26 ronald install the new koha 16:26 ronald hi 16:26 wizzyrea have you filed a bug? 16:25 Barrc I noticed the SIP implementation doesn't send back title information in the 64 string (if the summary string is sent to look for it) only item barcode 16:25 Barrc Just putting this out again - in case there are more people around now! 16:25 mib_ffc7ko hi wahanui 16:25 wahanui privet, mib_ffc7ko 16:25 mib_ffc7ko hi 16:25 mib_ffc7ko ?? 16:24 tomascohen i.e. consistency with isbn10/13 definition 16:24 tomascohen on what to check 16:24 tcohen and wanted to reach some sort of agreement 16:24 tcohen (ISBN Check) 16:24 tcohen i wanted to start working on bug 906 16:24 tomascohen and wanted to reach some sort of agreement 16:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=906 enhancement, P2, ---, chris, NEW, ISBN Check 16:24 tomascohen i wanted to start working on bug 906 16:24 tomascohen hi #koha 16:23 wizzyrea but I couldn't find it either 16:23 wizzyrea on 3495 16:23 wizzyrea kf nengard I was looking at signing off on that one too 16:19 tcohen hi #koha 16:19 ronald hi oleonard 16:19 oleonard Hi ronald 16:19 ronald i have a problem 16:18 ronald hello 15:45 kf nengard: :) 15:42 nengard i shortened the item record and the bib record to only the fields needed at the circ desk 15:42 nengard i'll gladly share it once the import/export function is in place :) 15:41 nengard shortened 15:41 nengard i worked to shorted the one that was on there 15:41 nengard kf, i have a 'fast' fast add framework 15:40 kf it's still not really fast 15:40 kf it's something we had in horizon - but I would love to have a framework that it's even less complicated. like 5-6 fields and item and biblio on one small popup 15:39 nengard bingo :) 15:39 kf the permissions work like on circ-home - you see it as superlibrarian and with fast cataloging rights 15:38 kf nengard: try to checkout an unknown barcode 15:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3495 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Fast bib record add at circulation 15:37 nengard kf for bug 3495 are you adding the fast cataloging link to a page other than the circ home? cause i see it on the circ home - just wondering where to look to test 15:23 kf :) 15:23 nengard thanks :) 15:23 nengard kf that did it!! 15:22 kf hm, I think --hard HEAD^ should make the last one go 15:20 nengard but it's saying that it's at the commit i don't want 15:20 nengard i also did git reset --hard origin 15:20 nengard and it still says the files are altered 15:20 nengard i did a git reset --soft HEAD^ 15:20 nengard i updated the wrong version of the manual and i want to revert the changes to my 3.2 manual branch to what it is in git 15:19 nengard hi all, i need git help ... again 15:04 oleonard FIXMEs are so useful. 15:04 magnuse jcamins: i think you get the error in the staff side search if you turn it on 15:04 kf jcamins: there is no xslt file for intranet, but should not give you a warning, just do nothing 15:04 jcamins All that patching, and _now_ I realize that I'm in the wrong system, and can't send my patch. 15:04 kf jcamins: only in intranet 15:04 jcamins Argh! 15:04 jcamins So, probably. 15:04 jcamins magnuse: I don't know. There's a FIXME note in Search.pm saying it's not implemented. 15:03 magnuse jcamins: isn't that the one that gives you an error if you turn it on? because the corresponding xslt file is missing? 15:02 * jcamins never knew this. 15:02 jcamins Wait, XSLTResultsDisplay doesn't do anything? 15:01 wahanui :) 15:01 kf wahanui botsnack cookie 14:59 wahanui Complicated is far too mild a term to describe Search.pm. 14:59 magnuse Complicated? 14:58 jcamins Are there any side effects to adding a parameter to a method? 14:57 wahanui OK, jcamins. 14:57 jcamins wahanui: Complicated is far too mild a term to describe Search.pm. 14:57 jcamins Complicated? 14:56 wahanui search.pm is complicated and has been the source of much contention in the wake of KohaCon with BibLibre rewriting it for Solr/Lucene instead of Zebra support. 14:56 jcamins Search.pm. 14:56 jcamins Ah-ha. 14:54 jcamins Where does the XSLT get processed into the results display? 14:42 magnuse gmcharlt: great! 14:42 gmcharlt magnuse: glitch with the upgrade of extension that manages them; should be fixed shortly 14:41 magnuse gmcharlt: any idea what happened to the categories below the textarea in the wiki? http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit 14:41 jcamins It works fine in Firefox too. Apparently one has to *work* to find a website that breaks when you use a link that includes "&" 14:40 gmcharlt jcamins: odd; that would be fairly bad breakage on Chrome's part 14:39 jcamins Or possibly Chrome replaces it. 14:38 jcamins Ugh. Preliminary testing suggests that every website I try understands & 14:37 jcamins That would be excellent! 14:37 gmcharlt it will also make it possible to automatically pull updates, at least until LC changes the format of the MARC21 manual again 14:37 jcamins Hooray! 14:36 jcamins gmcharlt++ 14:36 gmcharlt jcamins: regarding your question, I have a patch in the works to update the default MARC21 framework 14:35 jcamins No, never mind. Preliminary testing suggests that Amazon understands "&" 14:35 jcamins Preliminary testing suggests that this may have fixed it. 14:35 slef ok, it's something connected to authorities :-/ 14:33 slef Trying another one which I'm sure previously crashed it. 14:32 slef Well, the last record my most recently-affected user reports crashes Koha didn't crash it for me :-/ 14:31 slef I'd install something other than Iceweasel/Firefox if I had time. 14:30 slef I HATE THE RUBBISH WINDOWS USER INTERFACE AND HOW IT IS SLOWLY SCREWING UP GNU</rant> 14:29 slef I just went to type a control character into Koha. I typed control-q first (because that's how to type a literal control character in Emacs)... you can guess what happened next :-/ 14:29 slef oh whoops 14:28 slef I fear it's not a clear as a single MARC record. I think it's some interaction with Koha's authorities management :-/ 14:27 slef trying to find one 14:27 gmcharlt can you provide a copy of the MARC record that's triggering this? 14:27 gmcharlt hmm 14:26 slef gmcharlt: apache error log just says (20014)Internal error: Error reading request entity data 14:26 gmcharlt slef: not even the Apache error log? 14:25 slef gmcharlt: the problem I have is that Koha crashes, so I don't see a fault being logged anywhere IIRC 14:24 wizzyrea i'm not so sharpish myself 14:24 wizzyrea not a title 14:24 wizzyrea oh sorry url 14:24 jcamins wizzyrea: I'm looking for an ampersand in a URL, and my head is still fuzzy and I couldn't figure out where to find one. 14:24 slef gmcharlt: I'm just bringing up my notes on this MARC control-character crash thing. 14:24 jcamins Barrc: ooh, good call! 14:23 wizzyrea save record 14:23 Barrc http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=perl&x=0&y=0 14:23 wizzyrea http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=233571 14:23 gmcharlt slef: not dead yet 14:23 Barrc Search Amazon for a book, the URL should have an ampersand in it 14:23 slef gmcharlt: alive? 14:23 wizzyrea http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=big+wolf+little+wolf 14:23 wizzyrea you could download it from his catalog 14:23 wizzyrea owen sent one 14:23 jcamins Right. 14:22 Barrc Do you mean a URL in a tag in a MARC record? 14:22 jcamins Does anyone have any suggestions where I could find a URL that has an ampersand in it to stick in a MARC record? 14:22 jcamins I'll take that as a "no." 14:20 jcamins Does anyone have a MARC record which includes a URL which has an ampersand that doesn't currently work in Koha? 14:19 Barrc Is this by design? 14:19 Barrc Hello all - another SIP question.....I noticed the SIP implementation doesn't send back title information in the 64 string (if the summary string is sent to look for it) only item barcode 14:15 jcamins No, ?!whatever 14:15 jcamins Like this: ?=whatever 14:15 jcamins Okay, negative lookahead in Perl? 14:14 wizzyrea \o/ 14:14 * jcamins has just realized that he might be able to fix the display after all. 14:13 jcamins Ohhh. 14:12 jwagner Actually, it was for both problems. It does $xmlrecord =~ s/\& /\&\; /; 14:11 jwagner Oops, that one was for branchcode. Let me try again. 14:11 jwagner oleonard, in current head, do git show 77141dab35e07d488efb326c9694c8d4d3f914fe for David's patch on the ampersand 14:08 jcamins I had an idea how to fix the search ramifications, but that would still leave the display. 14:08 JesseM sry sry syr 14:08 jcamins JesseM: ww 14:08 JesseM if they cancel with theri current vendor do they get money retro back? 14:07 jcamins There are search ramifications too. 14:07 jwagner Drat. I can't find our bugzilla entry, but I know it's about a year & a half old and dealt specifically with this problem -- XSLT showing & instead of & 14:07 wizzyrea (that's what the patch author says) ohh, that sucks. 14:07 jcamins wizzyrea: doesn't at all. :( 14:07 wizzyrea other way round 14:07 wizzyrea er 14:07 wizzyrea it doesn't for non-xslt anyway 14:07 jcamins oleonard: the problem is that the patch doesn't actually correct the problem. 14:05 schuster I've seen this but couldn't figure out how to explain it! 14:04 oleonard jcamins: Any idea about the patch mentioned in that bug report? 14:04 oleonard Ah, well no wonder. Greek to me :) 14:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3326 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, xml entity refs display incorrectly in results page if exported and indexed as xml 14:03 jcamins Bug 3326 14:03 jwagner Trying to find our bug number 14:03 oleonard jcamins: I saw that it was an existing ticket in your system, so I was surprised not to find an official bug report 14:03 jcamins It's a bug in Zebra. 14:02 jcamins I just wrote an e-mail about that issue. 14:02 jcamins oleonard: that's creepy. 14:02 jwagner owen, we saw & reported that a long time ago -- David Birmingham did a fix. It should be in head. 14:02 oleonard Weird how it's inconsistent. Result 1 and 2 vs. Result 3 14:02 oleonard http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=big+wolf+little+wolf 14:01 Guest324 we've seen that too, they told us it was something with our records. 14:01 oleonard This one is new to me, can't find a big report for it 14:01 oleonard We just noticed a bug where there are instances of "&" in search results 13:19 magnuse kf: much appreciated! 13:19 kf magnuse: yes... but want to help :) 13:15 magnuse kf, nah, that's good for you! ;-) 13:15 kf magnuse: sorry no 13:11 magnuse has anyone else seen situations where opac-detail.pl shows more than one list of issues for a serial, even though there is only one subscription associated with the biblionumber? 12:53 * jcamins rebuilds zebra 12:42 kf hehe thx - just saying I know how you feel. :) 12:42 jcamins I just deleted it, and that worked. 12:42 jcamins Ah-ha. 12:42 nengard kf++ for also being a geek 12:42 kf nengard: I didn't want to go to work today because I wanted to work on my bugs and patches... 12:42 jcamins kf: perl Makefile.PL insists on trying to read the koha-conf that the package set up. 12:42 nengard paul_p that's not new - I was born that way :) hehe 12:41 paul_p hi nengard, & congrats for your new position ( geek :D ) 12:41 kf sometimes he really surprises me 12:41 wahanui jcamins: my pleasure 12:41 jcamins wahanui: thanks. 12:41 wahanui the problem is, like, its human beings doing it 12:41 kf jcamins: what is the problem? 12:41 nengard hehe :) 12:41 kf nengard++ for being a geek :) 12:40 * nengard is a geek 12:40 jcamins Help! The packages didn't work, and now I can't do an install from git. 12:40 nengard so many commits this weekend!! I'm so excited to get to updating the manual :) 12:37 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 12:37 jcamins @later tell eythian If you get a chance, could you check that the latest Koha package works? I'm wondering if the reason kf and I both had trouble wasn't that there is some sort of corruption. 12:23 magnuse hiya jcamins 12:23 jcamins Good morning, #koha 12:19 magnuse argh, lost power twice today - i'm definitely buying an ups later today! 12:08 NateC morning JesseM and #koha! 12:07 JesseM morning NateC 12:04 kf hi hdl :) 12:02 hdl hi all 11:39 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded. 11:39 nengard @later tell slef the faq should be open for anyone to add to once logged into the admin area of the Koha site, if not you can add it to the manual in git and I'll put it on the site later, or you can just email me whatever and I'll add it in both places 11:38 nengard hiya kf 11:32 kf hi nengard 11:30 nengard slef around? 11:30 nengard morning JesseM 11:29 JesseM morning nengard 11:27 JesseM Morning kf 11:27 kf hi JesseM 11:26 kf mtj: still have no idea, but test on my production system was ok - will ignore the problem on my test installation for now 11:20 mtj hmm, pass on that one 11:11 kf but return somehow does not trigger it 11:11 kf placing the hold works without any errormessage 11:11 mtj or a circ rule, prolly 11:11 kf it is 11:11 mtj if the item is not on hold...? 11:09 kf is there any reason there would be no hold message during check-in? 11:09 kf *sighs* 11:06 hdl worked silently for me.. 11:06 mtj hdl: nickserv works for me 11:03 hdl no nickserv here ? 10:56 magnuse hdl1: further investigations reveals it's most probably a problem with the data... 10:55 kmkale http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm 10:54 hdl1 should not be 10:53 * magnuse is surprised to see the contents of subscriptionhistory.librariannote show up in the opac... 10:46 kf it seems item due can not interpret branches for digest, only for single item due mails. 10:46 kf hmpf 09:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3670 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, REOPENED, Why is DUE all caps on enhanced messages 09:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5819 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED, No toolbar in record view when quotes present in title 09:01 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version 09:01 jenkins_koha * Nicole Engard: Bug 3670: change 'Item DUE' to 'Item Due' in English dbs 09:01 jenkins_koha * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 5819 : No toolbar in record view when quotes present in title - fix 09:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #41: SUCCESS in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/41/ 08:32 kf rangi++ 08:28 jenkins_koha Starting build 41 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 08:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5848 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED, Same position for the tabs of Normal, MARC and ISBD view in opac detail 08:28 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5848: Same position for the tabs of Normal, MARC and ISBD view in opac detail 08:28 jenkins_koha * Henri-Damien LAURENT: bug4438/MT5496 budget Exceeds total allocation 08:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #40: SUCCESS in 34 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/40/ 08:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=70513529554a296d552262006f6478bcb4e19a80> / Bug 3670: change 'Item DUE' to 'Item Due' in English dbs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07b9125861c2d57f787f3bd3d598dcbd652b030b> 08:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5819 : No toolbar in record view when quotes present in title - fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6e580439be3382af88aed5e3ba9f7e3e8876f0b> 08:01 rangi cool thank you :) 08:01 paul_p ok, will change the term for the next mail. 08:01 rangi so test and mark resolved is cool 08:01 rangi ill close them when i release 08:00 paul_p rangi, yep 08:00 rangi i dont want people to close bugs, just mark resolved fixed 08:00 rangi paul_p: just one thing for your weekly emails 07:58 kf ah no, this was another bug - sorry 07:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5819 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED, No toolbar in record view when quotes present in title 07:58 kf bug 5819 07:57 kf probably forgot to format-patch again 07:57 kf thought I had done that 07:57 kf oh 07:55 * rangi amended it to add the bug number 07:55 rangi just was trying to figure out what the patch for 5819 was, because it didnt have the bug number in the commit message 07:54 kf rangi: now I am curious about your question ;) 07:53 kf talking to myself does not work... 07:53 kf rangi: yes 07:53 jenkins_koha Starting build 40 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 07:53 kf kf: yes 07:53 francharb hello #koha 07:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5848: Same position for the tabs of Normal, MARC and ISBD view in opac detail <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ff13b5aa664243f2e9e82c7af51e8d48ec906d9> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_4438' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c470899b3f0191b9597d713e895b9240fe1d137> / bug4438/MT5496 budget Exceeds total allocation <http://git.koha-community.o 07:50 hdl hi all 07:50 rangi hi paul_p 07:50 paul_p hello everybody 07:46 rangi ahh nevermind figured it out 07:45 rangi kf: you got a second? 07:31 kf hi #koha 06:44 kmkale bbl 06:41 eythian yeah, it should be fun :) 06:41 cait solomon islands? nice :) 06:41 cait it's ok 06:41 eythian cait: yeah, I did. If I get time tomorrow or Wednesday I'll look at it, but I might be busy until then (and after that I'm off to the Solomon Islands to do some training there for a week, so if I don't get to it then, it'll be a little while) 06:38 cait the one with .gitignore in the patch file? 06:38 cait eythian: did you see my comment on your bug? 06:34 eythian Trust me, you should avoid Liberty� if you possibly can :) 06:30 kmkale Shackles of Liberty!! I always thought we get liberty once shackles were broken. ;) 06:01 cait yep 06:00 eythian they're really quite happy with it too, which is good. 05:59 cait congratulations :) 05:59 cait hehe 05:57 eythian (I just wanted to say "shackles of Liberty" :) 05:57 eythian yay, we've just moved a group of libraries from the shackles of Liberty to Koha 05:55 cait morning fredericd 05:11 cait hi druthb :) 05:09 druthb hi, cait. :) 05:08 cait hi kmkale 05:08 kmkale hi cait 05:08 cait hi #koha 04:27 kmkale as almost all hotels in Thane are 20 rooms or there about. Two of the biggest ones have 45 and 65 04:27 * druthb giggles 04:26 eythian (or volume of snoring :) 04:26 eythian or sensitivity to snoring 04:26 eythian well, different people have different levels of privacy. 04:26 kmkale need to know. so going to put up a small form today asking people to iindicate that choice 04:26 druthb yes; both. I'm willing to share, but that's just me...others' mileage may vary. 04:26 eythian I'd just put down what options there are, let people decide. 04:25 eythian I think the only answer there is "both" 04:25 kmkale do people pferer single occupancy or are they willing to share in a double occupancy ?? 04:24 druthb beds++; at code4lib, the bed I got was so smooshy I ended up sleeping on the floor.... 04:24 kmkale one major question 04:24 kmkale all offer wifi 04:24 kmkale no worries though. they are all good 04:24 kmkale ok. its quality of beds I am checking out first :) 04:23 eythian kmkale: make sure you sort them by the quality of the wifi offering 04:23 kmkale hope to put up that info on the conference site today 04:23 kmkale I visited five hotels yesterday 04:15 druthb :) 04:14 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4767193/Orca-display-in-Wellington 04:11 druthb It was good to see him, and only an hour's drive out of my way to do so. 04:10 eythian "speaking of nutters..." ;) 04:09 druthb I had dinner with gmcharlt and his lovely wife this afternoon. I postulate that he is powered by a small singularity. 04:08 ibeardslee mind you I don't think the USA can stake a claim to having all the nutters 04:08 rangi heya druthb 04:08 druthb hi, rangi! :) 04:07 druthb heh 04:07 rangi or right field as the case may be :) 04:07 druthb I think the vast majority of Americans are basically-good folk, mostly--but the ones that are not really stand out with how spectacularly far out in left field they are. 04:04 ibeardslee that sort of attitude is one of the reasons I've never taken up my USA passport 03:57 kmkale there are fools everywhere 03:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5669 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Holds pick up location - System preference 03:57 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping db version 03:57 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5669: Adding a system preference to control whether a user can select a pick branch for their hold or not 03:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #39: SUCCESS in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/39/ 03:57 druthb It's a meme that's made the rounds on twitter and facebook some. Mostly in the less-educated circles. No one on my list, thank goodness, because I'd have to just stomp on that; 03:56 kmkale whut??? 03:55 * druthb is very occasionally somewhat ashamed to be an American--for instance, when some of my countrymen and women assert that the earthquakes and reactor problems in Japan are "paybacks" for Pearl Harbor. Insensitive, uncompassionate, clueless, *morons*. 03:53 kmkale hi mtj 03:39 mtj evening all 03:23 jenkins_koha Starting build 39 for job Koha_master (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #37 19 h ago) 03:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping db version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f463d241d2b0308dd08a54cb94f911c92913d170> / Bug 5669: Adding a system preference to control whether a user can select a pick... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c88f43fc6763b755b734fbfc5d5404051305d5db> 03:20 kmkale hi druthb 03:19 druthb hi, kmkale 03:19 kmkale My heart goes out to Japan 03:19 kmkale Namaskar #koha 00:16 druthb gmcharlt++