Time Nick Message 00:43 rangi @later tell chris_n bug 5595 is causing the tests to fail for Members.pm 00:43 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 00:43 rangi @later tell jcamins thanks 00:43 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 01:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3013' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=554c77569d5afe52912c085d0603b9d87a062d9b> / Merge remote branch 'kc/master' into new/bug_3013 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b06a289173d0f2e299b0c8652d59d47dc196062c> / Bug 3013 - Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types <http://git.koha-community.org/g 01:08 jenkins_koha Starting build 34 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #31 1 j 1 h ago) 01:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Adding release dates and 2 new developers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4b2ccab56871749016bfffabc32fee44c58f7c78> 01:23 rangi can anyone remember the url of perldoc gmcharlt was making automatically? 01:23 rangi ahh perldoc 01:23 rangi duh 01:23 rangi http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ 01:37 rangi http://microblog.joshsternberg.com/post/3816083960/kyledaley-following-the-march-11-2011 01:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #34: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/34/ 01:41 jenkins_koha Salvador Zaragoza Rubio: Bug 3013 - Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types 01:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3013 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED, Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types 01:41 jenkins_koha Starting build 35 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #31 1 j 2 h ago) 01:45 rangi hi JM_ 01:46 JM_ Hi rangi 01:49 rangi hows the weeking going? 02:15 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #35: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/35/ 02:15 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Adding release dates and 2 new developers 02:15 jenkins_koha Starting build 36 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #31 1 j 2 h ago) 02:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping the database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e97b98a88c06bddc0bb3f32f2b90c1d9d812c84> / Bug 5810 revision to fix author search link <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f087137f9cc163cdfa14c428740207c02e75818a> / Bug 5810: Subject tracings search complete subfields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4bc293c3aaffd93cf0 02:17 druthb Good evening. 02:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #36: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/36/ 02:48 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5810: Subject tracings search complete subfields 02:48 jenkins_koha * Jane Wagner: Bug 5810 revision to fix author search link 02:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5810 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Subject tracings should search complete subfields 02:48 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping the database version 06:01 kmkale Namaskar #koha 06:04 pastebot "kmkale" at 22.214.171.124 pasted "Problems with koha-devel list server?" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/172 06:49 rangi @later tell kmkale if you look at your post again, you should spot the problem right away (wrong address) 06:49 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 07:10 rangi hmm i should not have pushed 5595 07:10 rangi guess i better fix it 07:13 kmkale hiya rangi 07:13 kmkale hi druthb 07:13 druthb hi, kmkale! :) 07:15 kmkale rangi: my bad. where did that address come from I wonder. Thought I had deleted it from address book long ago :( 07:18 rangi hi druthb 07:21 druthb hi, rangi! :) 07:24 * druthb is enjoying an overnight train ride to Florida. I'm somewhere in South Carolina now, I think...and it's dark as the inside of a pile of coal outside my window. 07:26 rangi heh, id imagine so 07:28 druthb A conductor just passed through, waking folks up for the stop that's about 20 minutes away, which puts us on the money for time. With the Amtrak system's normally-dismal on-time rating, I'm feeling pretty lucky. :) 07:28 rangi :) 07:29 druthb hey, rangi: now that it has signoff, any chance at getting that malformed-JSON patch pushed thru? 07:29 kmkale I am enjoying a rare quite sunday with my wife and son away on his first trek 07:30 druthb sounds nice, kmkale! 07:30 kmkale :) 07:31 rangi i updated the bug 07:31 rangi i want someone to confirm it works with 1.4.4, since owen couldnt recreate the bug on 1.4.4 07:31 rangi i dont want the fix for 1.4.3 to break 1.4.4 since 1.4.4 is where we are trying to get to 07:32 * druthb nods. 07:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5595' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8c62e2fa1911689e38a0310ea1f619b75f545c0> / Bug 5595 : Fixing a security glitch (please always use placeholders or <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8215cc8bad33ff1dd327ac17fbfecd59e6f06989> 07:38 rangi hopefully that brings jenkins back to stable 07:38 rangi !jenkins build Koha_master now 07:38 jenkins_koha rangi: job Koha_master build scheduled now 07:38 jenkins_koha Starting build 37 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #31 1 j 7 h ago) 08:04 rangi !jenkins status 08:04 jenkins_koha status of all projects: 08:04 jenkins_koha Koha_3.2.x: last build: 4 (10 h ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/4/ 08:04 jenkins_koha Koha_master(BUILDING: 26 mn and counting): last build: 36 (5 h 49 mn ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/36/ 08:08 rangi !jenkins help 08:08 jenkins_koha Available commands: 08:08 jenkins_koha abort <job> - specify which job to abort 08:08 jenkins_koha alias [<alias> [<command>]] - defines a new alias, deletes one or lists all existing aliases 08:08 jenkins_koha botsnack [<snack>] - om nom nom 08:08 jenkins_koha build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period 08:08 jenkins_koha comment <job> <build-#> <comment> - adds a description to a build 08:08 jenkins_koha h [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 08:08 jenkins_koha health [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 08:08 jenkins_koha jobs [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 08:08 jenkins_koha q - show the state of the build queue 08:08 jenkins_koha queue - show the state of the build queue 08:08 jenkins_koha s [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 08:08 jenkins_koha schedule <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period 08:08 jenkins_koha status [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 08:08 jenkins_koha testresult [<job>|-v <view>] - show the test results of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 08:08 jenkins_koha userstat <username> - prints information about a Hudson user 08:09 rangi !jenkins q 08:09 jenkins_koha Build queue: 08:09 jenkins_koha - Koha_master: Le build #37 est déjà en cours (fin prévue à: 2 mn 31 s) 08:10 rangi !jenkins userstat rangi 08:10 jenkins_koha Don't know a user named rangi 08:11 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 08:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #37: FIXED in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/37/ 08:11 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5595 : Fixing a security glitch (please always use placeholders or 08:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5595 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, can't search 'searchable' patron attributes 08:11 jenkins_koha Starting build 38 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 08:11 rangi !jenkins userstat ranginui 08:11 jenkins_koha ranginui: 08:11 jenkins_koha Full name: Chris Cormack 08:11 jenkins_koha E-mail: email@example.com 08:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #38: ABORTED in 4 mn 24 s: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/38/ 08:21 rangi train still on time? 08:22 druthb so far. We should be somewhere in Georgia by now... 08:34 rangi @later tell chris_n you will want to pull the latest commit for 5595 08:34 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 08:36 rangi want a giggle? 08:37 rangi http://www.police.govt.nz/news/updates/27452.html 08:37 druthb always. 08:38 rangi and that is why i love nz 08:39 druthb awwww! 08:39 druthb what a cute story! 08:42 druthb I've got a little patch for Bug 5857, just gotta get Ian or Nicole to take a quick lookie at it. Should be an easy one to sign off 08:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5857 enhancement, P5, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED, longoverdue.pl really needs a "quiet" mode. 08:43 rangi cool 08:45 druthb I'm somewhat leery of sending cron outputs to /dev/null explicitly--if it has troubles, I'd really like to know about it. 08:45 rangi yep 08:45 rangi quiet should be default for any cron job 08:46 druthb mhm. 08:46 rangi you should have to turn on verbose 08:46 liw arguably any errors should be written to stderr and exit code should be non-zero; if this is true, then redirecting stdout to /dev/null is ok 08:47 rangi what he said :) 08:47 rangi heya liw :) 08:47 liw unfortunately, when there's an error, you might want to see the stdout output as well 08:48 druthb There's always that trust gap for me, between "should be" and "is." Unless I've eyeballed the code personally, I don't trust them to be equivalent. Paranoid, a little, maye. 08:48 druthb s/maye/maybe/ 08:48 druthb hi, liw! ) 08:48 druthb :) 08:49 liw http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/moreutils/ has a tool called chronic that captures output and if there's an error, spews it out, which may be andy 08:49 liw also, may be handy 08:49 liw hi everyone :) 08:49 rangi is there anything that joey does that isnt useful .. i think not :) 08:53 liw indeed :) 09:07 rangi hmm we dont have an index on the done column in zebraqueue? 09:09 rangi just a compound key 09:10 * rangi will investigate that more 09:17 druthb This should be Kingstree SC, which would put us about 15 minutes off-sked. Not bad, over a ten-hour run, so far. 09:18 rangi yep, thats not too bad 09:20 druthb Charleston and Yemassee SC, then Savannah and Jessup GA, and then Jacksonville. If we can keep this tempo, we'll get there about...11 AM, more or less, about 35 or so minutes off-sked. 09:26 druthb @later tell cait the one day you're not here early in the morning, and I'm here.. :P See ya soon. 09:26 huginn druthb: The operation succeeded. 09:27 druthb I'm gonna buzz off and take a snooze, maybe. see ya soon. 09:31 cait morning #koha 09:32 rangi heh 09:32 rangi you just missed ruth 09:35 cait I know :( 09:35 cait she left me a message with huginn 11:44 jcamins Good morning, #koha 11:47 cait hi jcamins 11:47 cait do you have experience with the koha-common packages? 11:48 jcamins Not really, no. 11:48 jcamins Why? 11:48 cait i am stuck 11:48 cait it seems I am missing the mysql configuration file 11:48 jcamins Hm. That doesn't make sense. 11:48 cait hm? 11:49 jcamins It seems to me that the configuration file should be included. 11:49 cait ah yes 11:49 cait did you get your subjects question solved? 11:50 jcamins Yes. 11:50 jcamins Well, kind of. 11:55 cait seems I am making some progress here 11:55 jcamins Yay! 12:04 cait hm 12:04 cait seems it ran 12:04 cait but I have problems getting access to it 12:06 jcamins The password is random. 12:12 cait hm no the url 12:12 cait and finding out where the files are 12:12 cait hmpf 12:13 jcamins Oh. 12:14 jcamins I don't know about that. 12:15 jcamins Where are patron messaging preferences stored? 12:16 cait that's difficult 12:16 cait the table structure is a bit insane 12:16 cait it's at least 3 tables I think 12:16 jcamins !! 12:16 jcamins :( 12:16 cait I have no working koha on this laptop - so can't look it up for you now :( 12:16 cait that's why I am working with the packages, trying to set one up again 12:17 cait look for borrower and message 12:17 cait and transport 12:17 cait someone was really serious about the relastional database model there 12:17 cait :) 12:17 jcamins Well, relational is good. 12:17 jcamins :) 12:18 jcamins Sometimes. 12:18 cait sometimes 12:19 cait would you perhaps be able to sign-off on a translation problem I have in this area? 12:19 cait at the moment if someone installs koha with german sample file the messaging will be broken :( 12:19 jcamins Perhaps. 12:19 wahanui perhaps is the version of koha 12:19 jcamins wahanui: forget perhaps 12:19 wahanui jcamins: I forgot perhaps 12:19 cait I know how to repair that in our installations, but it should not remain like that 12:20 jcamins Will I be able to tell if your fix works? 12:20 cait i think the problem is that most people have not setup email on their dev installaitons 12:20 * jcamins hasn't either. 12:20 cait bug 5646 12:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5646 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, translated message names on sql level break messaging 12:21 cait ok 12:21 cait no problem :) 12:21 cait your question only made me think about it 12:22 jcamins Wow. That's quite a long word. 12:22 jcamins "Fälligkeitsbenachrichtigung" 12:22 cait hehe 12:22 cait yeah 12:22 cait but it's the right nam 12:22 cait e 12:22 cait benachrichtigung is the message, fälligkeit means due 12:23 jcamins I believe you. It's just very long. :) 12:23 cait I even wrote a patch to make the field longer... only to find out it breaks everything 12:23 cait he code relies on it to be Item DUE 12:30 cait grr 12:30 cait and robin is asleep of course 12:38 cait hm found the web installer 12:38 cait but it's really slow 14:02 jcamins My cat is having a wonderful time playing with all the new toys my wife got him. Including the *very loud* jingly ball. 14:03 cait hehe 14:04 cait I am still fighting with the packages 14:06 jcamins :( 14:07 cait it's ok 14:07 cait if something goes smoothly you don't learn much doing it 14:07 cait right? 14:07 cait but I am about to give up and make a normal installation 14:07 cait and delay the packages for later, so I can work on some patches 14:10 cait found more instructions :) 14:18 jcamins Right. 14:18 cait *sighs* 14:18 cait ok, giving up 14:31 jcamins @marc 588 14:31 huginn jcamins: unknown tag 588 14:32 jcamins @marc 751 14:32 huginn jcamins: unknown tag 751 14:32 jcamins @help marc 14:32 huginn jcamins: (marc look up field or field/subfield combo in MARC docs) -- eg. @marc 245 or @marc 245 a 14:32 cait @marc 001 14:32 huginn cait: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier).  14:34 cait jcamins: seems you pick the wrong fields :) 14:34 jcamins cait: yeah, those are two that are missing from Koha. 14:34 jcamins @marc 542 14:34 huginn jcamins: unknown tag 542 14:39 jcamins We're missing so many tags. :( 14:47 cait koha or huginn? 14:47 jcamins Koha. 14:47 jcamins 542, 545, 588, 751. 14:47 jcamins All the RDA tags. 14:47 cait that was to be expected 14:48 jcamins Yes, but it's still sad. 14:49 cait yeah, but nothing will happen from being sad :) 14:49 jcamins Alas, I have observed that. 14:51 cait we need a time machine... to have more time on all those things 14:51 jcamins Yes. 14:53 jcamins Okay, looks like we're accurate at least up to 2006. 14:53 jcamins Only up to 2006. 14:57 cait yep 14:57 cait is this about the time the files were created? 14:58 jcamins Probably. 15:00 jcamins Bug 5858 15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5858 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Default frameworks missing many MARC21 tags 15:07 cait it misses the fields we got in too 15:08 cait I have added some, like the $w 15:08 jcamins Yeah, as I said, that bug was just for fields. 15:08 jcamins I guess I could note subfields as well. 15:08 cait hm right 15:08 cait are you going to add those? 15:08 jcamins Should I? 15:08 cait unfair question :) 15:09 cait I was wondering if we add the missing fields and subfields - only for new installatons? 15:09 jcamins Yeah. 15:09 cait probably the only save way to do it 15:09 jcamins Exactly. 15:09 cait have a list perhaps about newly added fields in the release notes would be good 15:10 jcamins Okay, I'll add subfields. 15:10 cait I want to help with that - but not sure how 15:10 cait and need a working koha first... 15:11 jcamins I'm not adding them right now. Just making the list. 15:11 jcamins Because I keep on getting questions, and I can never remember if Koha has a given field or not. 15:14 cait ah 15:14 cait ok 15:16 cait git clone... 15:17 jcamins Did you add $w to everything that allows $w? 15:17 jcamins Not to 8xx, it looks like. 15:18 jcamins No, you did. 15:18 jcamins Never mind. 15:19 cait I hope I got them all 15:19 cait i think the 7xx already had those, only added the 8xx 15:21 jcamins Is that sufficiently horrifying for you? 15:21 jcamins :) 15:22 jcamins 82 missing subfields, 16 missing fields. 15:23 cait how did you find out so fast? 15:23 hdl there is a script for that iirc. 15:23 hdl which compares an iso2709 file with a given framework 15:24 jcamins cait: I went through the lists of changes. 15:25 cait ok 15:25 hdl I think i answered too quick sorry 15:25 hdl back to week end. 15:27 cait hdl: enjoy your sunday :) 15:31 jcamins Hm. I wonder how Evergreen does MARC21 support. 15:34 cait hm no idea 15:39 jcamins Evergreen is up to Update 11. 15:40 jcamins Ah, and this is the whole problem with the "or later" bit. 15:40 jcamins Evergreen isn't. 15:42 jcamins Or maybe it is. 15:42 jcamins I don't know. 15:44 jcamins No, it does say "or (at your option) any later version." 15:44 jcamins Definitely. I can read. 15:45 cait ? 15:46 cait can't follow 15:46 jcamins That's probably a good thing. 15:46 jcamins If you did, it would probably mean you were either A) too sick to think straight, B) too tired to think straight, or C) incapable of thinking straight. ;) 15:47 cait hm that's not good 15:47 cait which category do you see yourself in? 15:47 jcamins A? Yeah, A definitely sounds nicest. :) 15:48 cait hm, I am for D) 15:48 jcamins What's D? 15:48 cait the one where you are a clever guy thinking loud about a complicated topic 15:50 jcamins @later tell gmcharlt Is there a reason why we could not convert Evergreen's marcedit-tooltips.xml into SQL suitable for use with Koha and include that? After a great deal of confusion on my part, I've come to the conclusion that Evergreen seems to have the "or later" clause in its GPL 2 license. 15:50 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 15:51 jcamins @later tell gmcharlt I notice that you're the one who made the changes to Evergreen. If there's someone else I should be asking, let me know... 15:51 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 15:51 jcamins I hope huggin can handle multiple messages from one person to one other person. 15:52 mib_pqg8o2 @later tell jcamins This is the first message. 15:52 huginn mib_pqg8o2: The operation succeeded. 15:52 mib_pqg8o2 @later tell jcamins This is the second message. 15:52 huginn mib_pqg8o2: The operation succeeded. 15:53 jcamins Okay, I'm done testing now. It's safe to come out. :) 15:57 cait hi magnuse 15:57 magnuse hiya cait 15:59 jcamins Shouldn't Koha be able to convert records from MARC8 to UTF-8 on import? 16:00 cait hm, yes? 16:01 jcamins Does it? 16:02 * jcamins doesn't know where to find a good MARC8 record with non-Roman scripts. 16:04 magnuse jcamins: bulkmarcimport.pl has an option -s "Skip automatic conversion of MARC-8 to UTF-8. This option is provided for debugging." but i havn't actually checked what it does... http://perldoc.koha-community.org/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.html 16:04 cait jcamins: is non-roman with marc-8 even possible? 16:05 jcamins cait: yep. 16:05 jcamins It's... not nice. 16:06 jcamins It looks a lot like this:$1!L$'8t'8t! 4(B 16:06 magnuse ouch 16:06 jcamins Bingo! Cornell has it. 16:07 jcamins Yikes! That looks even worse. 16:07 jcamins å¯¼æ¼”: ç”°å£®å£® 16:11 cait it looks a bit... ugly 16:12 jcamins That's very diplomatic of you. :) 16:13 * jcamins curses catalogs that won't let you download the MARC. 16:20 magnuse yeah, libraries are meant to be sharing stuff, aren't they? 16:23 cait curses mysql authentication error 16:24 * jcamins stops and stares in shock. 16:25 jcamins Somewhere down the line, someone got confused and the "Character encoding" option in staging MARC records really *is* supposed to be the encoding. 16:26 cait huh? 16:26 jcamins You have the option to choose "MARC21" or "UNIMARC" for "character encoding" when importing records. 16:26 cait yes 16:26 jcamins I assumed the label was wrong, but now I thinking the choices are wrong. 16:27 cait I don't think there is a way to do a conversion from marc21 to unimarc 16:27 cait I never touched the pull down and wondered why it's there 16:28 jcamins No, there certainly isn't. 16:28 jcamins But it should say "UTF-8" "MARC8" "ISO5469" etc. 16:31 jcamins Woo-hoo! That worked! 16:32 jcamins (hard-coding the encoding) 16:32 cait woohoo 16:32 cait so... can you come over now and solve my database problem? ;) 16:33 jcamins I've only identified my encoding problem, not actually fixed it. ;) 16:33 jcamins What's wrong? 16:33 cait having problems to access the database 16:33 cait not sure why 16:33 cait will figure it out though 16:39 cait *sighs* now I have made things worse 16:40 jcamins What's happened? 16:44 magnuse good luck, cait 16:44 cait ingore me, talking to myself 17:01 cait I think I found my mistake 17:03 jcamins Oh? What is it? 17:03 cait typo... 17:04 jcamins That'll do it. :) 17:04 cait frustrating 17:05 cait and the koha on the other laptop is frustrating slow, had hoped for better results here 17:05 jcamins Yeah, but now it's fixed. 17:05 cait but no 17:05 cait it's slow too 17:07 jcamins Hm. 17:07 jcamins If you check out an older version, say, 3.2.2, will it be faster? 17:08 cait will try 17:08 cait there is an sql error in sysprefs: 17:08 cait about the new log 17:09 jcamins That's okay. 17:09 cait yeah, only mentioning it 17:10 cait loading a page - no matter which - takes a few secons 17:10 cait checking out 3.2.x 17:11 * jcamins considers adding a prefix param to subfieldSelect. 17:12 cait ? 17:12 cait and no change 17:12 cait perhaps i will just have to live with that slowness 17:13 cait but my dev install at work is not that slow :( 17:13 * jcamins has added a prefix param to subfieldSelect. 17:13 * cait offers jcamins a cookie for a comment 17:13 jcamins No, this won't work. 17:13 jcamins Argh! 17:14 jcamins The best-laid plans of mice and men. 17:14 cait everything will be alright 17:14 * cait gives you the cookie 17:14 jcamins I know, this just requires some creativity. 17:21 cait any idea how to make my koha faster? 17:21 jcamins I don't know why it would've started being slower. :( 17:21 cait me neither 17:37 cait hm 17:38 cait I changed some of the mysql settings... not it seems reasonable fast 17:38 * cait puts a big bowl of cookies in the middle of #koha 17:49 bg heya cait 17:49 cait hi bg 18:03 jcamins Argh! This thing is messing with my mind. 18:03 jcamins I just spent all this time debugging something that apparently worked fine. 18:03 jcamins Well, I spent a minute on it, anyway. 18:08 jcamins No, just kidding. 18:08 jcamins It doesn't work. However, only in very limited circumstances. 18:09 jcamins Alas, hdl isn't here anymore. 18:17 jcamins Yay! I figured out how to force Zebra's tokenizer to do what I want. 18:19 cait :) 18:20 jcamins Well, *that's* weird. 18:21 jcamins My data does not contain a single example of the subject heading I'm searching for. 18:21 jcamins However, this search -- seemingly completely by coincidence -- is returning only the results I would want anyway. 18:21 cait hm 18:22 cait this patch chris_n said does not apply cleanly to 3.2.x applies for me... 18:22 jcamins Wait a minute. 18:22 jcamins The data is here. 18:23 jcamins It's just not displaying. 18:23 jcamins I'm confused. 18:23 cait me too 18:33 jcamins @marc 650 p 18:33 huginn jcamins: unknown field/subfield combination (650/p) 18:52 * jcamins is no longer confused. 18:52 jcamins The root problem is a confusion between 630 and 650. 18:53 cait me neither - patch sent 18:53 jcamins @marc 630 p 18:53 huginn jcamins: Name of part/section of a work (Repeatable) 18:53 jcamins :D 19:03 * jcamins starts a third VM. 19:06 * jcamins is fully cognizant that this might not be a good idea, but he needs them all. 19:13 jcamins hdl++ 19:13 hdl jcamins: ? 19:13 jcamins Had you been around when I was trying to figure out how to change the behavior of Zebra's tokenizer, I'm sure you would have told me to use parentheses. :) 19:15 hdl :) 19:15 hdl what are you working on ? 19:16 jcamins Bug 4276. 19:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, REOPENED, "Related subjects" search doesn't work with XSLT on and chained subject terms 19:21 jcamins hdl: are the UNIMARC default frameworks in Koha up to date? 19:24 hdl should be... But we updated many things in our master branch 19:25 jcamins So it's just MARC21 that's way out of date? That's good. 19:27 hdl is MARC21 framework sql default out of date ? 19:27 jcamins Yup. 19:27 jcamins 4 years. 19:49 jcamins rangi: is there a reason we don't have an "add_syspref.pl" script for adding sysprefs to all the SQL files? 19:51 cait ? 19:51 jcamins Well, in order to add a syspref, I am going to append the exact same line to a whole bunch of files. 19:52 jcamins It would be easy to have a script which took the syspref name, type, and description, then did it for me. 19:54 cait hm, not sure, but I think we don't have one because we used to translate them 19:55 jcamins Ah. 19:55 jcamins Don't we use pootle now? 19:55 cait not sure :) or nobody had this idea before :) 19:55 cait yes, we do. but the files are not the same all over still 19:56 cait some settings can only be translated there, like borrowertitle 19:56 jcamins Hm. Well, I'll ask rangi. 19:58 cait what do you think about bug 5848 19:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5848 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED, Same position for the tabs of Normal, MARC and ISBD view in opac detail 19:58 cait I have tested it and it works 19:58 cait only not sure if this change of display is ok for everybody 20:00 jcamins A screenshot would be nice. I'm not quite sure why it's needed. 20:01 jcamins cait++ 20:01 cait to make display more consistent 20:01 cait i kind of like it - screenshots attached to bug now :) 20:02 jcamins I think I like it too. 20:02 jcamins We should get nengard's opinion. 20:02 cait it also seems a bit cleaner to me 20:02 cait I will send the patch signed-off but add comment to bug 20:10 rangi jcamins: because the .sql files for sysprefs need to go away 20:11 rangi because we translate them with the .pref fiels 20:11 cait that's a good reason too 20:11 cait hi rangi 20:11 rangi it is just confusing and double ups work 20:12 jcamins rangi: ah. That makes sense. 20:12 rangi jcamins: run perl xt/syspref.t 20:12 rangi and it will tell you any missing ones 20:12 jcamins rangi: yeah, that's how I've been doing it. 20:12 rangi what we need is someone to fix the installer 20:12 * jcamins whistles and looks away. 20:12 rangi to always use the english ones, no matter what language we are installing 20:12 rangi and then they can go away 20:15 cait hm looking at 5072 now 20:15 cait I see that robin's patch includes a .gitignore file 20:15 rangi ahh, right fail qa that please 20:15 cait is this a failed qa? or is there a good way I can get that file out of the patch for sign-off? 20:15 rangi and ask him to fix it 20:16 cait ok 20:16 jcamins IndexData did not fix the & entity parsing in 2.0.45. 20:17 jcamins Wait... 20:17 jcamins Actually, I have not managed to upgrade to 2.0.45, never mind. 20:17 cait chris: are you done with the cataloging branch? 20:17 rangi is that 5575? 20:17 cait I was searching for a fix I though might be in there 20:17 rangi or the other one? 20:17 wahanui the other one is old and wrong tho, so not having it, isnt a bad thing 20:18 * rangi needs a bug number and i can tell you 20:18 jcamins Bug 5575 is circ. 20:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements 20:18 rangi im not done with that 20:18 cait hm, thought I had looked at one for cataloging earlier 20:18 cait give me a sec 20:18 rangi 5574? 20:18 rangi bug 5574? 20:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5574 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, 3.4 cataloguing improvements 20:18 rangi im done with that 20:19 cait ah no, it was this bug 20:19 cait ok 20:19 cait hdl said it might include a fix to my problem with saving items.stocknumber 20:21 cait hi paul_p 20:21 paul_p hello #koha ! 20:21 * paul_p writing "Hacker's corner week 11"... very long to write, many things last week ! 20:22 cait hope we made some progess? :) 20:25 rangi hi paul_p 20:25 * rangi hopes to finish 5575 this week 20:26 cait bug 5575 20:26 wahanui i guess bug 5575 is circ. 20:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements 20:27 paul_p cait, yep, we made progress, but the easiest one : closing many bugs. The "pls signoff list" has been lowered only a little bit. 20:27 rangi fredericd, cait and I had a good talk about bugs this weekend 20:28 paul_p rangi, aprl 4-8 = 12 hackers outside from BibLibre have said they'll come. Means 20+ overall. 20:28 rangi fredericd was writing up a nice lifecycle of a bug page 20:28 rangi excellent, we should be able to get everything signed off :) 20:29 paul_p rangi, where has this be written ? 20:29 paul_p ok, seen on the wiki ;-) 20:29 wahanui I haven't seen 'on', paul_p 20:30 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow 20:31 cait *sighs* 20:31 cait don't understand it, it works in my dev installation here, but not at our production systems at work 20:58 cait hm, the items table above the add item screen shows my stocknumber and 5 items, but in the items table those fields are empty? 20:58 cait but all, but the most recently added... it's confusing 21:26 cait1 t 21:35 cait1 bug 5561 21:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5561 normal, P5, ---, nengard, NEW, Help on summary field in authority type editor 21:35 cait1 oh wrong bug 21:36 cait1 bug 5861 21:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5861 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, items.stocknumber not saved correctly 21:37 cait1 rangi: sorry, wondering, you said you are done with the cataloging branch, right? bug 5574? 21:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5574 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, 3.4 cataloguing improvements 22:02 cait paul_p: still around? 22:06 * jcamins now understands why cait was having trouble. 22:06 cait huh? 22:06 jcamins Not what caused it, but why there were problems. 22:06 jcamins His installed-from-packages system doesn't work. 22:06 cait oh 22:07 cait I had a lot of trouble today, not sure what you were referencing to :) 22:07 jcamins Okay, git it is. 22:07 jcamins And dinner. 22:07 jcamins Good night, #koha 22:07 cait hehe 22:07 cait ended up using git too but still would like to know where the problem was 22:07 cait good night jcamins_away 22:11 jcamins_away Okay, I got in, I just can't figure out how to reindex. 22:11 eythian jcamins_away: with the packages? 22:12 cait eythian: tried to use them too, but got stuck - I think it was an apache problem 22:12 eythian sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full *libraryname* 22:12 eythian oh ah 22:12 cait seems jcamins had problems too 23:18 bg @wunder 93109 23:19 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.2�C (4:26 PM PDT on March 13, 2011). 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