Time Nick Message 23:45 * druthb nods. 23:45 huginn druthb: Brooke_ was last seen in #koha 1 day, 2 hours, 53 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <Brooke_> namaskar 23:45 druthb @seen Brooke_ 23:40 * druthb peeks in 22:05 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 22:05 wizzyrea @later tell oleonard: This made me laugh, and you may laugh too: http://vimeo.com/19131028 21:17 cait good idea :) 21:17 wizzyrea Tell the librarians hi from us :) 21:17 cait good luck with training :) 21:17 cait lol 21:16 wizzyrea it's a rangi sighting! 21:16 * rangi_stdc goes back to training 21:16 * wizzyrea blinks 21:16 rangi_stdc heya cait 21:16 huginn rangi_stdc: The operation succeeded. 21:16 rangi_stdc @later tell eythian i think we are missing the message_transport table data (or something like that) 21:16 cait hi rangi 21:15 rangi_stdc eythian: about? 21:07 wizzyrea seems like searches with single letters *should* work with stemming though... 21:07 wizzyrea I think we're ok for now, searches with single letters work again 21:06 cait I am not entirely sure - could check my settings at work tomrorow 21:04 wizzyrea stemming !like ICU 21:04 wizzyrea oh that could be 21:04 cait examples perhaps 21:04 wizzyrea or how to look to see if it's already a bug 21:03 wizzyrea I can't even begin to know how to put that in a bug report 21:03 cait I think stemming does not work with icu - but not sure 21:03 cait ah 21:03 wizzyrea with stemming off, they work marvellously 21:02 wizzyrea bring back no results 21:02 wizzyrea titles such as "the duke and I" or "an apple a day" 21:02 wizzyrea we were having trouble getting results for titles that had single letters 21:01 cait I only tested it very shortly a long while ago 21:01 cait hm 21:01 wizzyrea (if stemming is on) 21:00 wizzyrea curious: what am I losing by turning of query stemming, in a practical sense? (I understand things like exception would bring up except) 20:53 sekjal_away goodnight, #koha! 19:15 wizzyrea ah k 19:05 rhcl So that works "mostly". 19:05 rhcl A search for "K is for killer" produces the correct title at the top of a list, followed by 7,320,201 totally irrelevant items. 19:05 rhcl wizzyrea: going back and looking at your earlier question: 18:47 gmcharlt slef: you're welcome 18:47 slef gmcharlt: thank you! 18:47 slef gmcharlt: *dances* I might think people should avoid Google/Yahoo/AOL, but let's at least make G/Y/A do some user registration for us :) 18:45 jcamins_away Oh, looks like I already reported this bug. 18:45 gmcharlt slef: yes, we can have this on the k-c wiki tonight 18:44 jcamins_away Nope. 18:43 jcamins_away I can do that on this server, too. 18:43 jcamins_away Oh, wait. 18:43 jcamins_away slef: yeah, I'll do that when I'm at home. 18:42 slef jcamins_away: grep the frameworks sql? 18:42 slef ooh, I like the look of this http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:OpenIDLogin can we have it on the k-c wiki? 18:32 jcamins_away Bigger question: is the 751 even included in the frameworks that come with Koha? 18:29 jcamins_away Is the 751 field authority-controlled? 18:24 kohaneew thx 18:24 kohaneew ok 18:20 jcamins_away I keep on meaning to file a bug report that that's confusing. 18:19 jcamins_away Not "uneditable." 18:19 jcamins_away The lock indicates authority control. 18:19 jcamins_away Yes. 18:18 kohaneew i did the change but i think the lock is still there but the field seem editable 18:15 kohaneew ok let me take a look at that 18:15 jcamins_away kohaneew: you need to change your syspref "BiblioAddsAuthorities" (or something like that). 18:15 kohaneew i'm having a problem with adding a book, when i try to access to set "100 ? - MAIN ENTRY--PERSONAL NAME − " the field is locked not editable 18:13 cait hi kohaneew 18:11 kohaneew hey, how yalll? 17:44 wizzyrea i like it when that happens 17:44 wizzyrea ^.^ yay! 17:44 rhcl thanks all! removes a line item from my complaint checklist! 17:43 rhcl OK, under checkout policy, got it by search 17:40 wizzyrea I got bit by that local-use thing a few days ago 17:40 wizzyrea in the search 17:40 wizzyrea when i searched for "renew" 17:39 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/j8qqPLUUPJv 17:39 jcamins_away rhcl: check Local Preferences... the syspref search can get a little wonky and miss those. 17:39 rhcl harumpff 17:39 wizzyrea it must be in there rhcl 17:39 wizzyrea oh yea def not that new 17:39 rhcl 3.03.00.010 17:38 wizzyrea I didn't think it was that new 17:38 * jcamins_away should probably remember. But he doesn't. 17:38 wizzyrea maybe? 17:38 wizzyrea jcamins_away: I don't know! 17:38 jcamins_away I added a couple of *Override sysprefs very recently. 17:37 jcamins_away wizzyrea: is that the one I added? 17:37 wizzyrea are you on 17:37 wizzyrea what version? 17:37 wizzyrea nope, we are on koha 17:37 rhcl are you still on harley? We can't quite follow you for this on our system 17:34 wizzyrea you can just search "renewal" too 17:33 wizzyrea under circulation preferences? 17:32 wizzyrea ? 17:32 wizzyrea AllowRenewalLimitOverride 17:32 rhcl we don't see "allow renewal override" 17:27 rhcl perfect perfect 17:27 wizzyrea that way staff can override, but patrons can't 17:26 wizzyrea set 17:26 wizzyrea then make sure that you have the pref for "allow renewal override" 17:26 wizzyrea that has 0 renewals 17:26 wizzyrea add a rule for your ILL itype 17:26 wizzyrea administration -> circ and fine rules 17:25 rhcl yes yes, how to do? 17:25 wizzyrea so only staff can override 17:25 rhcl how do we enable "false" 17:25 wizzyrea you can certainly set rules that make ILL itypes non-renewable 17:25 wizzyrea true, depending on your setup 17:24 rhcl "Patrons are able to renew their inter-library loans themselves when logged into their account on the OPAC" 17:24 rhcl True or False: 17:23 rhcl to/do 17:23 rhcl and my librarians to have grief with the differences when searching using "the" 17:22 rhcl I don't specifically remember that I asked about anything like your two examples 17:21 wizzyrea would you get a result in your catalog 17:21 rhcl I know that with the word "the" for search will change results when used/not used 17:21 wizzyrea if you were to search for something like "the duke and I" or "K is for killer" 17:21 wizzyrea heh 17:21 rhcl is that a multiple choice question? I can't remember if I said that. 17:17 wizzyrea rhcl did you tell me you were having trouble with the title search in koha? 16:15 rhcl we did the bookcrossing thing once a number of years ago--got some interesting reports 16:15 Ahmuck-Sr well, back to work 16:14 wizzyrea ah ya letterboxing 16:14 Ahmuck-Sr or letterboxing 16:14 wizzyrea where you can trace your tag from geocache to geocache 16:14 wizzyrea rhcl: how funny, kind of like those geocaching tag thingies 16:07 rhcl http://www.bookcrossing.com/ 15:56 Ahmuck-Sr one of the best books i picked up at a coffee shop, a "pick up take with you read and then drop off somewhere else" book 15:54 Ahmuck-Sr is there a way to connect private library collections via koha? 15:54 rhcl Is anybody working on bug 2495? 15:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2495 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Currently no way to correct a typo in an authority controlled bib tag $a in Koha 15:54 rhcl huggin: go fetch me bug 2495 15:51 rhcl Ahmuk: yea, they should 15:51 wizzyrea ^^ 15:51 gmcharlt indirectly some do via their friends groups 15:51 * Ahmuck-Sr watched the video 15:51 wizzyrea maybe they should 15:50 Ahmuck-Sr i'm surprised that libraires don't have fund drives like PBS 15:49 Ahmuck-Sr ah 15:47 wizzyrea NExpress is the NEKLS shared automation system 15:47 wizzyrea nope 15:47 Ahmuck-Sr separate from NEKLS ? 15:47 wizzyrea hehe that's fun 15:47 Ahmuck-Sr ah 15:47 Ahmuck-Sr eventually when i got older i asked if i could buy the book and they let me, as no one had checked it out in 8 years 15:47 wizzyrea horton is in NExpress 15:46 wizzyrea hehe 15:46 Ahmuck-Sr there was this book in Horton, that i would always check out. seemed i was the only one. it showed you how to build this device where you put your hands on it and it makes your hair stand up like in science class 15:46 Ahmuck-Sr ya, i was aware u were liz :) 15:45 wizzyrea :) 15:45 * wizzyrea is from NEKLS 15:45 * wizzyrea recognizes yet again what a small world it is 15:45 wizzyrea !!! 15:45 wizzyrea 46 publics 15:45 wizzyrea Ahmuck-Sr: you'll really love this then: http://boingboing.net/2011/03/04/california-libraries.html 15:43 * Ahmuck-Sr has considered opening a private library 15:42 gmcharlt but it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least a few libraries in the US were fine money is keeping a staff member employed, or mkaing the difference between being open five days a week instead of four 15:42 Ahmuck-Sr how many libraries are in the NEKLS system? 15:42 * Ahmuck-Sr grew up in the NEKLS system 15:42 gmcharlt so ... yes, in an ideal world, libraries shouldn't (or shouldn't have to) consider fines as part of their budgets 15:41 gmcharlt so a lot of libraries get caught in the problem of being asked to provide more services at exactly the same time that they are getting less tax revenue 15:40 gmcharlt on the other hand, a lot of libraries see an increase (sometimes a significant one) in usage during recessions 15:40 gmcharlt political issues in some cases 15:40 gmcharlt as far as loss of public moneys? lot's of reasons, including consequences of the recession that have it a lot of states and localties hard 15:39 gmcharlt to characterize it as a lack of public interest in education? not necessarily 15:39 gmcharlt and entertainment reading is a valid one 15:39 gmcharlt libraries serve a lot of public needs 15:38 Ahmuck-Sr btw, last time i was at the library, seems like a lot of pulp fiction. i can recall attending the library and learning all types of scientific material. i assume the public is no longer interested in education? 15:37 Ahmuck-Sr perhaps a pbs raise for the library fund option? 15:36 Ahmuck-Sr why less public support 15:36 gmcharlt than they used to (or ought to) 15:36 Ahmuck-Sr commercialization comes in all forms, usually small at first 15:36 gmcharlt more accurate, at least in the US, is that a lot of public libraries are getting less tax and public support 15:36 gmcharlt Ahmuck-Sr: that's too strong of a statement 15:36 Ahmuck-Sr so were commercializing our libraries? 15:35 wizzyrea in an ideal world 15:35 wizzyrea sure 15:35 Ahmuck-Sr it's almost like we "hope" they get fines 15:35 Ahmuck-Sr shouldn't fine revenue be "extra" rather than a budget base for income? 15:34 wizzyrea certainly some 15:34 wizzyrea not all of it 15:34 Ahmuck-Sr is library revenue based on fines? 15:34 wizzyrea mhm 15:34 wizzyrea mym 15:33 Ahmuck-Sr [2011-03-10 09:25] <SharonNEKLS> That did it! My libraries will be happy to know they can see how much $$ they brought in yesterday - really? 15:32 rhcl_away what's the token separator for entering tags in the OPAC? 15:21 * druthb smiles happily. 15:18 SharonNEKLS works even better if I group by cardnumber...thank you! 15:16 SharonNEKLS That did it! My libraries will be happy to know they can see how much $$ they brought in yesterday 15:15 SharonNEKLS will do 15:15 druthb hm....instead of the date= clause, try date >= DATE_SUB(NOW(),INTERVAL 1 DAY) 15:14 druthb (To mysql, that's a different word.") 15:14 SharonNEKLS if I put in date BETWEEN '2011-03-03' AND '2011-03-06' it works. 15:14 SharonNEKLS OK 15:13 druthb Try with accounttype= "Pay" instead of accounttype="PAY". Spelling counts. ;-) 15:13 SharonNEKLS nope, nada back on that one in Koha. 15:13 druthb You got nothing back, right, SharonNEKLS? 15:11 SharonNEKLS see anything obvious? A difference b/w Harley and Koha, maybe? 15:11 SharonNEKLS SELECT round(Sum(accountlines.amount),2) AS 'Fines Paid', borrowers.cardnumber, borrowers.surname, borrowers.branchcode FROM accountlines LEFT JOIN borrowers ON (accountlines.borrowernumber=borrowers.borrowernumber) WHERE (accounttype = 'PAY' ) AND date = (now() - interval 1 day) GROUP BY borrowers.branchcode 15:11 SharonNEKLS Hi all. One of our libraries would like a Fines paid report in Koha. I tried tweaking the one I created in Harley yesterday, but somehow broke it. 15:10 wizzyrea mornin :) 15:10 druthb mornin, Liz! 14:26 * druthb reaches into her toolbox for the Velcro. 12:24 kmkale Gotta run. bbl 12:17 slef kmkale: yes 12:16 kmkale slef: around? 12:16 kmkale gmcharlt: around? 12:13 huginn druthb: Quote #114: "chris_n: maybe you mean black magic with reference to zebra? ;-) ; wizzyrea: correction: black magic of zebra :D ; sekjal: correction: black and white striped magic of zebra .... ; rhcl: zebra sounds like a skunk ; chris_n thinks is may smell occasionally too, like a pole cat." (added by wizzyrea at 04:49 PM, January 18, 2011) 12:13 druthb @quote random 12:02 huginn kmkale: Quote #100: "chris: well, one of them is overhauling the whole templating system jcamins: Koha's other swiss army chainsaw" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, October 11, 2010) 12:02 kmkale @quote random 11:21 slef good morning. Just. 11:20 druthb good morning, #koha 10:40 kf ah, chris has not splitted it into bugs yet 10:40 kf I think I will spend a lot of time with this next week 10:40 kf thx paul 10:39 huginn 04Bug 5580: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, BibLibre acq improvements for 3.4 10:39 paul_p http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5580 10:38 paul_p hello kf 10:12 hdl kf: it should be ongoing work 09:58 kf paul_p: we are doing acq training today and have a few problems - do you know the state of the acq branch integration? 09:42 huginn slef: The operation succeeded. 09:42 slef @later tell nengard (or anyone else) I'd like to help update the FAQ about serials. I'd need to gather questions. Do you have any tips on the best way? 09:37 kmkale hi paul_p 09:37 kmkale hi kf 09:37 kf hi kmkale and paul_p 09:05 kf marcelr++ 08:15 kf hi #koha 05:17 cait hi space_librarian 05:16 space_librarian hi cait 05:10 cait hi #koha 04:41 kmkale bbl 04:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5847 critical, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Manage Staged MARC Records stuck at 0% if isbn matching rule selected. 04:40 kmkale bug 5847 04:23 kmkale running 3.03.00.019 with perl 5.10.1 on ubuntu 10.10 04:17 kmkale I can see a www-data owned background job running but the browser is stuck at 0% and no entries in the db :( 04:16 kmkale trying web import with chromium. 04:13 eythian yeah, I'm not really surprised by that 04:11 kmkale ok. It did not import items for isbn matches. Thats too bad.. 03:54 kmkale and I must manually check on duplicate number of isbn's to see if 11659 is correct 03:54 kmkale but something fishy about the items 03:53 kmkale looks like it added 11659 biblios and 15103 items. running zebra rebuild. lets search and check after that. 03:48 kmkale 15052 MARC records done in 220.646286010742 seconds that was fast. lets check about items now 03:47 mtj yep 03:47 eythian Someone� should give it an option to merge. 03:47 mtj i have had occasional 0% glitches with the web import 03:47 eythian ahh, I understand your question now. I don't think it does that. 03:46 mtj try a diff web-browser too 03:46 kmkale so no items added? the web based one has an option to still add items. 03:46 kmkale :( 03:46 mtj yeah, eythian++ 03:45 mtj ahh, its an isbn *skip* option.... 03:45 kmkale ok. running it now. on a test db :) 03:45 mtj kmkale: it looks like it should, from the code 03:45 eythian I don't think it will, according to the documenation. It'll skip those ones. 03:44 kmkale Wanted to know if bulkmarcimport.pl will still add items for a bib match found on isbn 03:43 kmkale I checked in db. No entries in either biblio, biblioitems, items tables with the web based manage-marc-import.pl. 03:43 eythian I don't know why it'd get stuck though 03:42 eythian kmkale: it should still add, just not add things with a matching ISBN 03:42 kmkale This time when I try to de duplicate with isbn rule, it refuses to move beyond 0%. Left it overnight but no go 03:41 kmkale thing is I have always used the web based manage marc records stuff. 03:40 mtj pass, ive never seen the isbn flag, must be new 03:35 kmkale does anyone have an idea about while doing bulk import using bulkmarcimport.pl if I use -isbn does it still add items? 03:34 kmkale hi space_librarian 03:34 space_librarian hi kmkale! 03:33 kmkale hi mtj :) 03:30 mtj namaste kmkale 03:30 kmkale Namaskar #koha 01:09 eythian later 01:09 eythian yeah, I gotta do work :) 01:09 mtj ciao folks 01:08 mtj ok, gotta head home.... 01:07 mtj i might splurge on some new tape for my glasses 01:07 eythian that'll do I suppose. 01:06 mtj jaunty bank account-a-lope 01:06 eythian Jaunty Jackalope? 01:05 mtj well, 4 months really.. 01:05 mtj ive just done 6 months worth of invoicing, so im feeling a bit 'jaunty' 01:04 mtj good call, the next installment is way better 01:03 * mtj pulls out the beret and bongos 01:03 eythian I couldn't really keep watching it 01:02 mtj who new charlie sheen was a beat poet…. 01:01 eythian that's exactly who I was trying to think of, I got stuck at Keith Rogers, knowing that wasn't right 01:01 mtj pssst: keith richards 01:00 eythian Oh. He looks like the start of a rock musician who's going to end up 60 and made of leather. (trying to think of an example, but failing.) 01:00 mtj 'sheens korner' streaming from the tubes 00:59 space_librarian wow 00:59 mtj charlie sheens webcast/blog thingy 00:58 eythian mtj: what is that? 00:58 mtj btw, thats a rhetorical question 00:57 mtj http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13167959 00:57 mtj man, is charlie sheen high, or what? 00:56 * space_librarian smothers a giggle 00:56 mtj nope, just *orsum* ones here.. ;) 00:55 mtj ooooh, big screen, sounds like training... 00:55 eythian anyone got dodgy photos of chris they can contribute? :) 00:54 eythian (just for the big-screen demo) 00:54 * eythian hacks some templates 00:54 chrisc_stdc cool 00:54 eythian Have no plans to do one today unless they ask for it 00:54 chrisc_stdc good, im on the big screen so be nice 00:54 eythian nope 00:54 chrisc_stdc eythian: you doing a data load? 00:54 eythian how's things going there 00:53 eythian wellington is nice 00:53 eythian chrisc_stdc: hiya 00:53 mtj very nice thanks 00:53 chrisc_stdc south taranaki district council 00:53 mtj ah, click… ;) 00:53 mtj whats stdc? 00:53 chrisc_stdc heya hows wellington? 00:53 mtj heya chris 00:52 huginn chrisc_stdc: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] 00:52 chrisc_stdc @marc 245 00:52 huginn chrisc_stdc: unknown tag 200 00:52 chrisc_stdc @marc 200 00:51 chrisc_stdc hi everybody