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23:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4852 - rewrite the query to include limits if using ccl= <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=87ec4126484d5c55efd66b359220934d3501ff6c> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5792' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb652af4817572e8486aa95f67066b3a545e76a6> / Bug 5792 - Add reference icon to Bridge icon set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko
23:53 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
23:53 gmcharlt @later tell hdl http://git.librarypolice.com/?p=koha-galen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/bug5579 - note that I will be doing a lot of squashing before submitting
23:51 rangi gmcharlt++
23:50 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
23:50 gmcharlt @later tell hdl I've started looking at bug 5579; I figure on another couple days to beat it into shape
23:30 jenkins_koha Starting build 21 for job Koha_master (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #12 23 h ago)
23:29 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Fixing the translatable tests to work in french locales
23:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5811 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Fines below noissuecharges should not require override
23:29 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5811 - Bumping database version
23:29 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5811: Add sysprefs to control overriding fines
23:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #20: ABORTED in 30 s: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/20/
23:29 jenkins_koha Starting build 20 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #12 23 h ago)
23:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing the translatable tests to work in french locales <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=24db3d4a44d2d261df449a963881b0e99b90afa4> / Bug 5811 - Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f81f7756fc1ff0b5d88bd475f8de2f3b428e576c> / Bug 5811: Add sysprefs to control overriding fines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8
23:25 ronald hiya rangi
23:24 rangi hi ronald
23:23 gmcharlt lol
23:22 * rangi will add the condition so the tests pass on french servers
23:21 rangi the test assumes your locale is en :)
23:21 rangi next if /^\.* done\.$/;
23:21 rangi ............................................................... termin?.
23:21 rangi the reason the translatable tests are failing
23:21 rangi heh
23:06 rangi gmcharlt: http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/
22:18 mtj peace out, sekjal
22:17 sekjal have a good night/day/whateverlocaltime, #koha!
22:17 sekjal okay, time to go
22:15 mtj http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/blogs/four-legs-good/4728473/Tummies-are-for-tickling
21:47 * wizzyrea would so square bracket them :P
21:47 wizzyrea oooo good tip
21:46 gmcharlt text in square brackets is liable to be stripped
21:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Parameter: Bar Code # Prefix for book / patron searching
21:46 gmcharlt i.e., please don't do this: "[Bug 1234] fix the frobber"
21:46 * gmcharlt also reminds people to *not* put bug numbers in square brackets
21:44 gmcharlt rangi: remind me, where's your patch status tracker?
21:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5814 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Style error message on manage staged records page according to standard style
21:19 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Fix for Bug 5814 - Style error message on manage staged records page according to standard
21:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #19: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/19/
21:09 gmcharlt sekjal++ # that will come sooner
21:08 sekjal we'll have Koha speaking arbitrary metadata formats before the new subfield is added to the standard
21:07 gmcharlt but that's a matter for MARBI
21:07 sekjal that would be ideal
21:07 gmcharlt I'd still prefer a new subfield to encode a vocabulary of licenses
21:07 gmcharlt that would be better
21:06 sekjal http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd540.html
21:06 sekjal how about 540$a?
21:06 gmcharlt but best would be a new subfield for explicit encoding of the license(s)
21:05 gmcharlt ideally a new subfield woudl be defined, but absent that, $n (note) would be the best place to put it
21:05 gmcharlt neither are compatible
21:05 gmcharlt $f = transcriptoin of copyright statement
21:05 gmcharlt $l = copyright status, not license
21:04 sekjal going by how the subfields are defined
21:03 sekjal if we used $f or $l, I think we'd remain compatible with anyone else's practices later
21:03 sekjal I suggest 542 because it's the best-fit existing tag
21:02 gmcharlt for some local, stick a '9' in it, like 549
21:02 gmcharlt sekjal: actually, not quite - can't count on 542 not being used in the future
20:54 rhcl Way out of my league
20:54 rangi right meeting time bbl
20:54 rhcl and I may make a stab at collecting and cataloging a sample.
20:54 rhcl Well, this Overdrive thing has me grumpy, and I see at lease some <mostly> free books out there, although not the latest and greatest novels
20:50 sekjal so, yay, no worries about conflict if we were to use it
20:50 sekjal yeah, 542 is not a part of Koha's Frameworks yet
20:50 sekjal probably
20:50 * sekjal has no idea.
20:49 rhcl Will RDA affect any of this?
20:49 sekjal or at least that's when it was last revised
20:49 sekjal it's from Oct 08
20:49 rhcl Info related to copyright
20:49 sekjal if we dropped "CC-BY-NC-SA" into 542$f or 542$l, that may work
20:48 rhcl is the 542 something new? shows on Internet but not in the "official" marc documents we hold
20:46 rangi getting better
20:46 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/18/
20:45 jenkins_koha Starting build 19 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #12 20 h ago)
20:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #18: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/18/
20:44 sekjal http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd542.html
20:43 rhcl That's my position.
20:43 rhcl So we need to expand marc to 4 digits.
20:43 rhcl OK, so marc doesn't have enough fields to display all the info relevant to a record, namely, with eBooks and open-source licenses, license info like "CC-BY-NC-SA"
20:39 huginn rhcl: unknown tag 542
20:39 rhcl @marc 542
20:35 druthb Run, sekjal! rhcl has been lurking in wait for you!
20:35 wahanui1 i think sekjal is a wonderful geek.
20:35 rhcl sekjal!!!!
20:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5814 - Style error message on manage staged records page according to... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ded7b9897cf8d4d25781f988ad8bb66dbc5a71e>
20:20 * oleonard ducks out
20:13 jenkins_koha Starting build 18 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #12 19 h ago)
20:02 mib_lpd06s Good Bye!
20:01 oleonard I can't imagine why a reboot was necessary!
20:01 oleonard Good news, mib_lpd06s
20:00 mib_lpd06s many thnaks...
20:00 mib_lpd06s I reboot the machinne an now I see!!!
19:57 mib_lpd06s koha/apache permission?
19:57 rhcl sent o'reilly a query, will note response here
19:56 oleonard I'm testing on the latest version in git
19:55 oleonard mib_lpd06s: I have installed es-ES and enabled it and EN and I can see the language selector
19:54 mib_lpd06s There is a archive to configure language selector visibility?
19:52 rangi heh
19:52 oleonard rangi: I was hoping you were working on a universal translator
19:51 mib_lpd06s perhaps is the version of koha
19:50 mib_lpd06s I install it in debian from git
19:48 rangi i bet you could get opinions either way
19:48 rhcl http://oreilly.com/ebooks/
19:48 rhcl Has anyone at a library purchased an OReilly ebook and put it in their catalog? Legal? Ethical?
19:48 mib_lpd06s in demo "software.coop (Europe)" I don't see the selector also
19:46 rangi is where we are aiming for
19:46 rangi apt-get install koha-l18n-es
19:46 rangi we are workng on easier
19:45 * oleonard doesn't know when it got so easy, but is grateful
19:45 * oleonard loves how easy it is now to install translations
19:44 oleonard But I think the staff client shows the selector by default if you have more than one language enabled.
19:44 oleonard rangi: In the OPAC, yes: opaclanguagesdisplay
19:43 rangi to show the selector
19:43 rangi i think there is another syspref
19:43 mib_lpd06s yes
19:43 oleonard mib_lpd06s: So English and es-ES both have check marks in the checkboxes next to them?
19:42 mib_lpd06s Yes, with english
19:41 oleonard is it checked?
19:41 mib_lpd06s I see the language in system preferences (I18N/L10N)
19:41 oleonard Look for the language, opaclanguages, and opaclanguagesdisplay preferences
19:40 oleonard Which means "internationalization and localization"
19:40 oleonard mib_lpd06s: Check your system preferences. There is a tab labeled (in English) "I18N/L10N"
19:39 mib_lpd06s I install language with "perl translate install es-ES"
19:39 oleonard mib_lpd06s: Have you enabled your languages in system preferences?
19:38 mib_lpd06s I don't see the language selector in the bottom of the screen.
19:36 mib_lpd06s I have a problem setting the language of koha 3.2.5
19:35 wizzyrea hello even
19:35 wizzyrea helo
19:35 mib_lpd06s hello
19:32 rangi up to 7000$ now
19:31 rangi http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living/Outdoor-garden-conservatory/Landscaping-materials/Stones-rocks/auction-357989041.htm
19:23 rhcl sekjal: when you get back I wanna talk about all the document licenses and cataloging
19:21 rangi its almost working
19:20 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/ running on the biblibre machine
19:20 rangi sweet
19:19 druthb I've got a git-based kit, and a package-driven install.. I'll check it both places.
19:19 rangi (the bonus of using hte debian supplied one of course is it then falls under the debian security teams eyes)
19:19 * druthb nods.
19:19 rangi druthb: you'd probably want to apply that patch to a branch, build a new package and test, then test it on one that is not using the debian supplied jquery as well
19:18 * wizzyrea points at hbraum, passing the buck
19:18 rangi and which marc :)
19:18 * druthb blames wizzyrea for diggin' this one up.
19:18 rangi you'd have to ask a cataloguer that
19:17 rhcl_away where would marc dictate a copyright license go? Can Koha recognize all the various open licenses, and search based on license type?
19:17 wizzyrea and I thought that bug was going to be a doozy to explain
19:17 * druthb knows about as much about jquery and JSON as she does about quantum physics, so there's some faith involved here.
19:17 wizzyrea at least we caught one
19:17 rangi coffee
19:16 * oleonard 's brain is all muddled after that morning of bug-chasing... Don't know what to do next...
19:16 rangi yeah if that gets signed off i can push it, and that would mean we wouldnt need to switch back to the bundled jquery
19:15 wizzyrea w00t
19:15 druthb I shall! :D
19:15 oleonard druthb: This is a good chance for you to test the patch for Bug 5449! :)
19:14 wizzyrea nooo
19:14 * druthb has big bald patches at the moment, thanks to this one.
19:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5449 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED, JSON malformed in Koha - Blocker with jQuery 1.4.x
19:14 oleonard Bug 5449
19:14 druthb ah-hah.
19:14 rangi yeah that will be the cause of it
19:13 rangi druthb: that sounds like a js error
19:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Upgrade to support jQuery 1.4.2
19:13 oleonard druthb: That reminds me of Bug 5184... Did that patch get pushed?
19:10 druthb Interesting. this is on a package-based install; I'll test some things here, and see if there's something about *that* that's causing headaches.
19:10 oleonard 366 records staged without any error
19:09 druthb nope...pretty conventional stuff. Same as they used on the 14th.
19:09 conan oleonard: hi, sorry about the rejoins, I was testing weechat conf, to autojoin here on start
19:08 * oleonard is testing
19:08 oleonard druthb: Anything unusual about the settings for your import?
19:08 oleonard Hi conan
19:07 druthb This problem did not obtain on or about the code of 14 Feb, but does as of today.
19:06 oleonard druthb: I imported a big batch of records just last week. More recent than that?
19:06 druthb Anyone else getting "Failed to submit form: parsererror" when you try to stage marc records using very-recent 'master' code?
18:14 * tcohen goes for a cup of coffee
18:12 * tcohen test irc language
18:10 Brooke_ oleonard++ humour
18:10 * oleonard doesn't want regular wizzyrea's help, he wants HULK wizzyrea's help!
18:09 wizzyrea__ afk, lunch, ping regular wizzyrea with whatever
18:09 * Brooke_ was just getting back to nengard about absentee ballots
18:08 Brooke_ :)
18:08 * Brooke_ waves to miguel
18:08 * oleonard belatedly votes for everyone who won elections yesterday
18:03 * Brooke_ waves to juan
18:00 * Brooke_ muses if the ILS is large enough to warrant an authorised headings database for preferences and junk and where that might be when y'all say that you're clever enough to have already stuck it someplace...
17:57 Brooke_ size doesn't matter ;)
17:57 wizzyrea__ I defer to your much larger brain
17:57 oleonard Makes sense to me
17:54 sekjal branch -> current_rule_branch or something
17:54 sekjal make what's used specifically on that page named more specifically
17:54 sekjal I think renaming the variable that's used on smart-rules.pl would be the safest bet
17:51 Brooke_ tricksy wizzy, tricksy
17:51 wizzyrea__ (well, not me personally, one of my peeps here)
17:51 wizzyrea__ but I couldn't replicate it
17:51 wizzyrea__ because I saw at least one other time during my testing this morning where that happened
17:50 sekjal any place you can go from circulation.pl that takes branch as a param could be at risk
17:50 Brooke_ these newfangled branches, what with their Justin music. GET OFF THE LAWN!!!!
17:49 wizzyrea__ sekjal: I wonder if that same param is passed other places too
17:49 * Brooke_ never had branches so wouldn't know.
17:49 sekjal git bisect is our friend here
17:49 sekjal I'd be interested to see if it's recently introduced, or has just gone unnoticed for a while
17:49 oleonard It's so obscure we may have never noticed it
17:48 Brooke_ that looks to be brand freggin new, too
17:48 Brooke_ eeewwww
17:47 wizzyrea__ is what we're talking about Brooke_
17:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5824 critical, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Creating a circ rule for a library other than default causes set library anomalies
17:47 wizzyrea__ bug 5824
17:46 * Brooke_ waves to brendan+
17:46 Brooke_ <--- too lazy 2 log
17:46 sekjal a bit... but both strategies need to be handled with care
17:46 Brooke_ like a screenshot or summat
17:46 Brooke_ more info plox!
17:45 wizzyrea__ well renaming seems less likely to break stuff, no?
17:45 sekjal or rename it in smart-rules.pl
17:45 sekjal because we can either nuke it in cat-search.inc
17:45 sekjal now, the question is, is the branch attribute antiquated for this kind of search (it's next to 'printer'), or is it needed to narrow the search results
17:43 Brooke_ it's almost like the guy's a quality assurance manager or summat.
17:41 wizzyrea__ sekjal++
17:41 wizzyrea__ ooo sekjal you win
17:41 sekjal that's the source of the problem, I think
17:41 sekjal cat-search.inc line 64
17:39 Brooke_ kia ora!
17:37 sekjal the branchcode of the library you just changed is passed as a param when looking up the borrower
17:28 wizzyrea__ unless someone else has observed differently, that is
17:27 wizzyrea__ so our staff accounts are probably not in danger of it happening
17:27 wizzyrea__ we have not observed this happening with any privs other than superlibrarian
17:25 wizzyrea__ afaict
17:25 wizzyrea__ yea, you don't have to touch anything on circulation.pl
17:23 oleonard I wonder if it has to do with circulation.pl checking circulation rules... But does it do that even if you don't try to check out?
17:18 sekjal oh wow that's weird (just confirmed it)
17:15 wizzyrea__ k ty
17:15 oleonard Yes
17:14 wizzyrea__ oleonard: is that accurate?
17:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5824 critical, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Creating a circ rule for a library other than default causes set library anomalies
17:14 wizzyrea__ bug 5824
17:08 sekjal wizzyrea_: you're seeing this on current HEAD?
17:05 wizzyrea_ oh wow... that's happening all over now, set library changing when you search the catalog
17:03 slef mngay lord?
16:53 wizzyrea_ k that's local then
16:53 oleonard The rule I added to test the branch bug is there
16:53 wizzyrea_ lord. local thing.
16:53 wizzyrea_ we did, but that mngay be a local thi
16:52 oleonard Did you find that the circ rule was not added?
16:51 wizzyrea_ owen, can you add circ rules?
16:50 druthb lol
16:50 oleonard You also win the price for weirdest typing today
16:50 wizzyrea_ lol i have got to figure out how to make this dang trackpad less sensitive
16:50 wizzyrea_ woo hoo notoriety!untitled folder
16:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4079 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Opening system preferences page causes session to lose information
16:49 oleonard wizzyrea_ I think you've bumped Bug 4079 from the top spot as weirdest
16:47 wizzyrea_ weirdest bug of the day
16:47 wizzyrea_ urg
16:46 wizzyrea_ do I win a prize gday of the weirdest
16:45 wizzyrea_ *nod*
16:44 oleonard And it's not a display problem, that branch selection is persistent
16:43 wizzyrea_ alrighty then
16:43 wizzyrea_ !!!
16:43 oleonard Does it for me too
16:42 wizzyrea_ other way*
16:42 wizzyrea_ I can't get it to do it directly any way
16:41 oleonard That is convoluted
16:41 wizzyrea_ (i hasten to note that this may be local, as we're having trouble adding circ rules atm as well)
16:41 wizzyrea_ then searched the catalog from circulation.pl, and the set library changed
16:41 wizzyrea_ then searched for a patron from the check out at the top of the page, still ok
16:38 wizzyrea_ added a circ rule to a library (holton), filled in all of the fields, clicked add
16:36 wizzyrea_ so what I did
16:36 wizzyrea_ so no, not browser dependent
16:36 wizzyrea_ in chrome
16:36 wizzyrea_ I just did it
16:36 wizzyrea_ t
16:36 wizzyrea_ AHA
16:34 wizzyrea_ the 1st, not the 2nd :P
16:34 wizzyrea_ ^^is exactly what I said
16:34 oleonard Sounds like a TMPL variable name mixup
16:34 oleonard I can't imagine how it would be browser-dependent
16:34 wizzyrea_ when he performs a search
16:34 wizzyrea_ and it does it every time, changes the set library to the last library he tried to add a rule to
16:33 wizzyrea_ the other catch is he was FF on Mint Linux
16:33 wizzyrea_ it seems to happen when you go to add circ rule for a branch? weirdest problem ever!
16:31 wizzyrea_ a staff member of mine here can do it every time, but I haven't been able to replicate
16:31 kmkale how do i create a category in the wiki?
16:31 wizzyrea_ circulation.pl...
16:30 oleonard Searching from where?
16:30 * oleonard collapses in tears
16:29 wizzyrea_ whoa, has anybody ever seen a thing where searching for a patron changes the set library of the logged in user?!
16:28 oleonard Interesting.
16:27 wizzyrea_ just about to file a bug on that one
16:27 wizzyrea_ urg
16:27 wizzyrea_ about to file a bug on tt oneha
16:27 wizzyrea_ There's also a deal where if you mark an item lost, and it gets returned at a branch that is not it's home, it doesn't prompt to send that now-found item home
16:20 wizzyrea_ ooo yea
16:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5823 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Repeated check in of on-hold item fails to show hold information
16:20 oleonard As if we didn't have enough holds bugs, here's one that's new to us since our upgrade: Bug 5823
16:14 wizzyrea_ this was the dropdowns I believe
16:13 sekjal which mechanism of changing holds order? there's the arrows, and also the dropdowns. the bug may be mechanism-dependent
15:53 wizzyrea ugh i'm so sorry I can't find it... still looking though
15:47 wizzyrea well... we saw something like that in harley, where changing the order would (do something bad) to the holds below it, it was similar to the bug with the pickup location that you linked earlier
15:46 oleonard I've tried changing hold priority without managing to cause a null branchcode.
15:46 oleonard But I don't know if the hold priority aspect of it is a red herring or not
15:46 oleonard sekjal and wizzyrea, one of my users' reports stated "I changed the hold list [for bib 232979] and when I checked it in again to get the next person in line it came up with a hold that just said "Transfer to: " without any branch listed."
15:44 tcohen of course
15:44 oleonard tcohen: Can I send you a patch with the suggestions?
15:44 tcohen that's great!
15:44 oleonard tcohen: Yes, and I have a few suggestions for changes.
15:43 tcohen oleonard: did u manage to test that patch for marc docs I sent?
15:42 wizzyrea oy sharon's not handy otherwise I'd ask her
15:40 sekjal the 2 waiting led to null items.holdingbranch for the specific copies used to fill the holds
15:40 sekjal wizzyrea: 5 were in queue, 2 were waiting
15:40 wizzyrea just in queue?
15:39 wizzyrea so these are holds that are not yet in transit?
15:39 hdl yes... it is very dangerous
15:39 sekjal this was causing build_holds_queue.pl to complain, and was also (I believe) nullifying the holding branch of the items that were used to fill the holds
15:38 wizzyrea I want to say it's something about misrouting a hold or canceling a hold while in transit
15:38 sekjal hdl: I've only seen this on one system, where reserves.branchcode was NULL on a few reserves
15:37 hdl sekjal: Do you have any reports about a NULL branchcode problem with reserves ? The only case i found was Pickup library
15:33 * wizzyrea redoubles her search
15:33 wizzyrea I know we've seen it
15:32 oleonard wizzyrea: Or just reports that it happens?
15:32 oleonard I've just been chatting with sekjal about it with regard to our system
15:32 oleonard wizzyrea: Did you have any clues about NULL branchcodes in holds?
15:23 slef kf: cool, thanks for checking.
15:23 kf slef: sounds ok
15:19 thd Maybe I misunderstand the purpose of the check for a number.
15:17 thd http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=commitdiff;h=69adbcf9791593bc9c2199ebe220ef3e1a5a15c7
15:17 thd hdl: I would expect that $3 would not be a problem if Koha is only checking $9
15:16 hdl $3
15:16 thd hdl: In $9?
15:15 hdl sometimes when importing a biblio, authoritynumber can be an id from bnf or Rameau
15:15 slef I suggest http://koha-community.org/demo/ should link back to the providers, but I'm not going to decide to do that because I've an obvious conflict of interest.
15:14 thd hdl: There is a test in the JavaScript subject selection feature for whether the authority ID is a number.
15:14 slef kf: I just put "Master" (else it looks too long and throws the table width out) and a note below explaining that, with a link to for-developers. Is that OK?
15:13 hdl thd: ? why are you asking ?
15:13 gmcharlt thd: in Koha, it should always be a number
15:11 kf slef: I think instead of HEAD current master branch perhaps
15:08 thd s/ever/ever in Koha/
15:07 slef ok, will do
15:07 wizzyrea since chris changed the name
15:07 wizzyrea we should probably change that to master
15:07 thd When can an authority ID ever not be a number?
15:06 slef http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git seems to call HEAD "the current development version". I'll put that on the demo page.
15:05 slef Also I think http://koha-community.org/get-involved/ should link to the demo page rather than only bywater, OK?
15:04 slef updated http://koha-community.org/demo/ but I wonder if Version: HEAD needs explaining. Do we have an explanation of it?
15:01 wizzyrea :)
15:01 wizzyrea you won't have any collisions
15:01 wizzyrea that's ok, it just means I recently clicked away from it
15:00 slef "Warning: Liz Rea is currently editing this page"
15:00 wizzyrea that's ok with me
15:00 slef looks like I can edit everything
14:59 wizzyrea please try now?
14:59 wizzyrea wp is sometimes tricky with perms
14:58 wizzyrea k 1s
14:58 slef wizzyrea: "You are not allowed to edit this item"
14:58 thd slef: The subject selection feature which BibLibre built for Nîmes is very nice and works better either without authorities or with a bug preventing the authority ID from being captured.
14:58 slef wizzyrea: trying...
14:57 wizzyrea slef: you should be able to edit that page now
14:56 slef oic... I can't be much help but I feel I need to learn more about authorities because they keep causing us problems.
14:55 thd slef: If there is a bug it actually helps in this case.
14:54 * slef reads the log
14:54 thd s/loop/conditional/
14:54 slef ooh, authorities bugs?
14:54 slef :)
14:54 thd hdl: I suspect that either Nîmes is not using authorities for subdivided subjects or the code has bug which prevents the $9 ID from being returned to the template loop embedded in JavaScript.
14:54 slef ok, will do
14:54 slef mmm, ambiguous re-expression of it :)
14:54 wizzyrea :)
14:54 wizzyrea A
14:53 slef Q: A or B? A: yes :-/
14:53 wizzyrea yes, I think that is probably the right thing to do
14:53 slef question for you: should I move our 3.2 demo to the logical position between HEAD and the 3.0 ones, or leave it where it is?
14:52 wizzyrea ty for the gentle reminder
14:52 slef cool, thanks
14:52 wizzyrea and i will do that right now
14:52 wizzyrea yes sir
14:52 slef hi wizzyrea did you get my message?
14:51 thd hdl: Actually the code shows that the feature would not work as it does if authorities are in use,
14:51 wizzyrea should burn pretty hot too ;)
14:50 chris_n why waste a perfectly good fire
14:50 kf mh yes
14:50 wizzyrea I like that idea
14:50 chris_n oleonard: get out the marshmallows, Hershey's bars, and graham crackers?
14:49 huginn kf: Quote #110: "chris: im rm, not god" (added by kf at 10:20 AM, December 08, 2010)
14:49 kf @quote random
14:48 oleonard I wonder what step two is?
14:48 * chris_n reaches for the matches and his copy of "Programming Perl"
14:41 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #36: "<pianohacker> first, burn the perl book" (added by jdavidb at 07:12 PM, September 25, 2009)
14:41 gmcharlt @quote random
14:36 wizzyrea where branchcode ends up empty
14:36 wizzyrea i'm trying to find my emails about that
14:34 wizzyrea and not in context of 5805
14:34 wizzyrea oleonard: we've seen that too
14:33 hdl yes.
14:33 hdl oleonard: should be that....
14:32 thd hdl: It queries the selected subject words not $9 otherwise it would not work with subdivided subject headings.
14:31 thd hdl: The subject selection feature functions as if no authorities are in use.
14:26 oleonard I wonder if there's something else going on?
14:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5805 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, RESOLVED FIXED, Changing Pickup library on already queued holds causes havoc on all holds below it
14:26 oleonard It could be that some are caused by Bug 5805, but I doubt all of them were.
14:25 oleonard We have 7 holds in our system with NULL branchcode.
14:20 hdl yes
14:20 hdl thd: yse
14:18 kmkale bye for now. bbl
14:18 thd hdl: Does Nîmes use authorities for their catalogue?
14:17 kmkale i will put up a page in the wiki with some agenda. please add to it from your past experience to get things rolling
14:17 paul_p ok, so tuesday & the mail is a good idea, definetivly !
14:16 kmkale thanks gmcharlt paul_p
14:16 gmcharlt kmkale: good idea
14:15 kmkale shall I drop a mail to the lists?
14:15 gmcharlt Tuesday is fine for me too
14:15 kmkale gmcharlt: tuesday is good too
14:15 paul_p monday is not my preffered day. I prefer tue or fri
14:14 gmcharlt paul_p: ^^
14:13 kmkale works for me
14:13 gmcharlt kmkale: Monday at (say) 14:00 UTC+0 ?
14:12 thd yes
14:12 hdl and accessibilit and so on...
14:11 thd hdl: It does not degrade gracefully if the user does not have JavaScript.
14:11 thd hdl: I know that some just JavaScript part needs fixing.
14:10 hdl it is jscript
14:10 hdl no.
14:09 thd hdl: does it not need a Perl hook?
14:08 hdl koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/catalogue/opac-detail.tmpl
14:07 thd paul_p: I have been having trouble finding the source for the feature at git.biblibre.com
14:07 kmkale sometime Monday
14:06 kmkale in the first meeting I would like to get a few pointers, help with some copy writing stuff so a quick meeting if possible
14:06 wahanui1 well, the code is kept at git.koha-community.org
14:06 thd paul_p: Do you know where the code is?
14:06 paul_p thd: not yet
14:06 thd hdl paul_p: Was the subject selection interface for Nîmes submitted as a patch upstream?
14:04 wahanui1 time is a scary thing
14:04 kmkale what time?
14:04 thd hdl: I found nimes related commits in git.biblibre.com but no changes for OPAC subjects
14:03 paul_p ok for me (well, depending on the timeline ;-) )
14:03 gmcharlt kmkale: next week?
14:03 gmcharlt hi paul_p
14:03 paul_p ('morning gmcharlt)
14:03 kmkale can we have the first one quickly like next few days?
14:02 paul_p couple of weeeks++
14:02 gmcharlt kmkale: a couple weeks hence, perhaps?
14:02 kmkale paul_p / gmcharlt what could be a good day and time to have first kohacon meeting?
14:00 thd What does trivial merge mean?
13:56 kf :)
13:56 francharb :)
13:56 francharb1 hi kf
13:55 kf hi francharb1
13:55 hdl oleonard: hi
13:54 francharb1 re
13:54 chris_n and a bag of popcorn
13:54 * chris_n hands oleonard a bottle of eyedrops
13:53 chris_n lol
13:53 kf hehe
13:53 * oleonard only asks that someone stop by to moisten my eyeballs periodically
13:53 * chris_n wonders if oleonard is busy watching his browser waiting for it to time out...
13:51 hdl looking at that.
13:51 * thd presumes that I can trace the code at git.biblibre.com
13:51 thd hdl: If so, then how could it find a record unless all checkboxes for one subdived (composed) subject are checked?
13:50 hdl but would have to check it out
13:49 hdl I think it uses $9 if exists.
13:48 thd ... without $9?
13:47 thd hdl: Am I correct in assuming that the subject selection interface for Nîmes merely uses the words in the subfields?
13:45 thd hdl: I assume that the work which you did on subject selection interface for Nîmes does not use $9.
13:43 thd yes
13:43 hdl => multiple $9
13:43 hdl in fact we have libraries which would like to cope with composed authorities.
13:42 thd hdl: Do you have any libraries asking for repeatable $9?
13:41 hdl thd: ?
13:37 thd paul_p: I have a question about authorities.
13:35 thd paul_p: Are you present?
13:21 oleonard I wonder if I would have to leave my browser open and idle for 4 months, 17 days, 5 hours, and 20 minutes in order to get timed out
13:20 kf one of my coworkers had a problem like this - perhaps cookie settings int he browser
13:20 kf I don't hink it's koha
13:14 oleonard Re: timeout question on the Koha list... I don't think I have *ever* had a session time out
13:06 tcohen $ sudo update-rc.d koha-zebraqueue-daemon defaults
13:06 tcohen $ sudo ln -s ${SCRIPT_DIR}/koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebraqueue-daemon
13:06 druthb packages_for_installing_koha++ #goodness, that is faster.
13:04 tcohen i'll put the steps to test on bugzilla
13:04 hdl k tahnks
13:04 tcohen as the docs stated for 3.0.x it should work out of the box
13:04 tcohen hdl: if you create the symlink for koha-zebraqueue-daemon in init.d
13:01 hdl hi tcohen... Is there a documentation / how to to use your scripts available ?
13:00 jcamins chris_n: hm. I'll see if the same problem occurs on older code.
12:59 chris_n so a bit behind master
12:59 chris_n jcamins: that is on 3.03.00.002
12:58 kf chris_n: wanted to ask if 1962 could go into 3.2.x
12:57 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
12:57 slef @later tell wizzyrea can I have permission to update our details on http://koha-community.org/demo/ please?
12:56 kf thx magnuse, works from here now too
12:56 kf hi jcamins
12:55 jcamins However, if it's working for you, this must be a localized error.
12:54 tcohen hi #koha
12:54 jcamins One of our servers it "balances" the labels into several columns, skipping several labels.
12:52 chris_n setting the batch to start on label 12 causes it to use the 12th through 21st labels
12:52 chris_n I just tested on a batch of 10 here
12:50 chris_n so presumably if you had a batch of 10 labels and told it to start on label 12 it would begin on the 12th physical label and print 10 labels
12:50 chris_n jcamins: I'm not sure what you are looking for; at present if you tell it to start on label 12, it will begin printing on the 12th label on the sheet and continue through the end of the batch
12:44 jcamins chris_n: do you know how to disable the label creator's balancing feature, so that if you tell it to create ten labels starting at number 12 it will populate the labels 12-21?
12:44 jcamins Good morning.
12:43 JesseM Good Morning #Koha
12:40 magnuse kf: bugs.koha-community.org works for me
12:40 conan anyway, thanks jcamins and druthb
12:40 conan well, found it finally, I must say mailing list are a little bit hidden, maybe there should be a link on the 'get involved' section, right next to the 'find us on irc' link
12:37 jcamins_away Good afternoon, kf, and good morning, chris_n.
12:37 chris_n hi kf
12:35 kf hm bugzilla seems to be down
12:11 * conan trying...
12:10 druthb try at koha-community.org instead.
12:10 jcamins_away conan: That's because the Koha website is koha-community.org.
12:10 conan does anyone know if there's something down?
12:10 conan in fact, several pages at koha.org don't load
12:10 conan I've been trying to join koha-devel list since yesterday, but the page doesn't load
12:10 kf hi conan
12:05 conan hello everybody
11:13 druthb \o
11:12 magnuse o/
10:55 kf chris_n: around?
09:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5822 normal, P1, ---, chris, NEW, Missing perl module Math::Random::ISAAC for upgraded bugzilla
09:38 slef bug 5822 filed
09:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #17: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/17/
09:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5817 major, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Malformed author search link breaks sorting on results page
09:00 slef bug 5817
08:46 slef kf: yeah, I guess I'll go use that in a mo.
08:45 kf slef: I think there is a bugs.koha-community.org component in bugzilla to file bugs :)
08:43 chris_n rangi: likewise, btw
08:40 slef rangi: gmcharlt: either of you around?
08:39 slef Hi. I've found a bug in the bugzilla config. Who can fix it for me?
08:38 jenkins_koha Starting build 17 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #12 8 h 19 mn ago)
08:35 marcelr small question about master: anyone know why opacnav (navigate menu) disappeared on opac-detail ?
08:34 marcelr morning koha
08:31 kf bonjour paul_p
08:22 kf good morning all
08:03 francharb hello all
07:55 chris_n :)
07:54 rangi oh and commiserations :)
07:54 rangi nope
07:54 chris_n rangi: you don't happen to use rrdtool for anything do you?
07:53 rangi ;)
07:53 chris_n or very early morning, depending upon which end of the world you're on ;-)
07:51 rangi evening
07:38 huginn kmkale: The operation succeeded.
07:38 kmkale @later tell kf Yes its changed in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/circulation.pref in the patch for 5418
07:36 cait bbl :)
07:36 cait sorry, have to run - don't want to be late at work
07:34 * kmkale is checking
07:31 cait did you check the pref file?
07:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5417 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, System Preference page for itemBarcodeInputFilter text is "scanned patron barcodes."
07:31 kmkale so i think i can squash that bug 5417
07:30 cait kmkale: but I think the description was not changed in update and perhaps pref file?
07:30 kmkale yup. I did too on my git install but was not sure if i had a lingering patch
07:29 cait I just checked the syspref table - there it says item barcode (not patron barcode)
07:29 cait kmkale: :)
07:28 kmkale and belated happy b'day cait
07:28 cait thx indradg :)
07:28 kmkale :) thatks indradg
07:28 indradg kmkale, well then... way in advance then :)
07:28 indradg cait, belated happy birthday!
07:22 cait mine was yesterday :)
07:22 cait ah, good I waited
07:17 kmkale indradg: Its not my birthday
07:10 indradg kmkale, happy birthday! :)
06:49 kmkale hi cait
06:46 cait hi snail and kmkale
06:44 snail morning cait
06:41 cait morning #koha
05:30 kmkale bbl
05:20 * paul_p tired to delete 3-5 spams every morning on the wiki...
05:19 kmkale does it say |scanned item barcodes| or "scanned patron barcodes"
05:19 paul_p lol
05:18 eythian paul_p: but it's already been 6am here, therefore you're late :)
05:18 kmkale wonder if you have a git install at hand to check the text description of itemBarcodeInputFilter syspref
05:18 paul_p eythian, nope, it's early europeans :D
05:17 eythian hello late Europeans ;-)
05:17 druthb bonjour, paul_p. :)
05:17 paul_p hello late americans ;-)
05:17 brendan_ morning paul_p
05:17 kmkale Namaskar druthb
05:17 kmkale wow paul_p
05:16 paul_p hi kmkale (6am here)
05:16 druthb Namaste, kmkale.
05:16 * kmkale waves at druthb & paul_p
05:04 rhcl_home Aah, everybody's asleep. I should be too.
05:02 rhcl_home http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/UK_Constitution_and_Government.pdf
05:02 rhcl_home Just as an example (emphasize example only), I wonder if the following link has Marc-able info, and therefore possible inclusion in a library ebook collection?
04:56 rhcl_home http://collegeopentextbooks.org/opentextbookcontent/open-textbooks-by-subject/chemistry.html
04:56 rhcl_home I wonder where Marc would put a publication license?
04:55 rhcl_home rangi: you on?
04:43 eythian oh. (borrowernumber,accountno) is effectively a key. How'd I not see that.
04:39 * chris_n shakes his fist at bip
04:36 kmkale April 6th 10.00 utc
04:34 brendan_ not sure though
04:34 brendan_ I thought maybe the 6th?
04:33 chris_n next meeting is Apr 5?
04:33 kmkale hi brendan_
04:33 brendan_ heya chris_n :) been awhile... hello kmkale :)
04:32 kmkale better change the topic for # koha ;)
04:32 kmkale hi chris_n
04:32 chris_n hi kmkale
04:32 chris_n fancy underscore there :)
04:31 kmkale Namaskar #koha
04:31 chris_n heya brendan_
04:29 brendan_ evening :)
03:50 ebegin I'm sure I saw the sql database structure on koha-community lately but i can remember where...
03:49 eythian ah cool
03:48 rangi Right time to pack down
03:48 rangi The start of the rewrite
03:47 rangi There is a wr branch that fixes the tables, (puts keys back)
03:47 rangi Yeah its on the list to fix
03:46 eythian it's like something that links a set of transactions, or something like that.
03:46 rangi And how you found the offsets to it, from accountoffsets
03:46 eythian oh. I don't think it is now
03:46 rangi that was the primary key
03:45 eythian It also has this accountno thing, which I'm currently trying to figure out.
03:45 eythian yeah
03:45 rangi But you can't tell what payment changed the charge
03:44 eythian yeah. accountlines has a track of everything, but it goes back and modifies the 'outstanding' value on old entries, which I don't like.
03:44 rangi It has the payment, and a charge
03:43 rangi What it lacks is the linking of a charge to the payment
03:42 rangi Nope
03:42 eythian that's accountlines, isn't it?
03:42 rangi Accountoffsets was that
03:41 rangi What auditors want is a trail of every transaction
03:40 eythian yeah.
03:39 rangi The price of having many committers
03:39 rangi Back in the cvs days, a few mental things were done
03:37 eythian how strange. It looks like there's been an attempt to redo it, but by someone who was just looking at the code, so it's not complete.
03:37 rangi somewhere between 2.0 and 2.2
03:36 rangi With doc and perldoc
03:36 rangi Whole subroutines
03:36 rangi Ppl deleted that also
03:36 rangi I repeat
03:36 eythian It's not in C4::Accounts, which is where I'd expect to find it.
03:36 rangi Ppl deleted that also
03:35 eythian And so anyone modifying it wouldn't know how to keep that trail intact.
03:35 rangi It was
03:35 eythian It's not possible to tell whether that's the case, because it's not explained anywhere.
03:35 rangi And contained the trail of information they need
03:35 rangi the original accounts system was set up under the scrutiny of a financial auditor
03:33 eythian hmm. I think fixing the accounts system, whether by using the table or not. More importantly however is documenting the table structure so that code to interact with it can be made.
03:33 rangi Unbreaking it
03:32 rangi Using that table is the right thing
03:32 rangi Deleting it is precisely the wrong thing to do
03:28 bg I think the same here :)
03:28 bg ah ok
03:28 eythian or, I'm confusing it with something else.
03:28 eythian possibly internally
03:27 eythian Not sure, I just seem to recall it being mentioned.
03:25 bg which RFC are you referring to?
03:24 eythian it won't get forgotten :)
03:23 space_librarian make note of it, so you don't forget
03:23 eythian If I end up involved in the RFC implementation, I may have to make sure it's deleted.
03:23 eythian ah, good to know.
03:22 space_librarian oh, here we go "accountoffsets is an old, obsolete table that was used to track payments and increases in fines in the accountlines table. Parts of Koha still update it, but its information is not displayed anywhere."
03:22 eythian it is, as koha's internal way of doing accounts is a bit special.
03:21 space_librarian ouch. That's a little on the tricky side
03:21 eythian accountlines is used however. I'm just figuring out how to get similar-but-different data out of liberty and into koha.
03:20 eythian well, there's an RFC to rewrite how they work, which I'm looking forward to.
03:20 space_librarian and they were ignoring it in 2006 on the irc logs...
03:20 bg blow up acct* tables :)
03:20 eythian it's used in the code, but I'm not sure if the functions using it are ever used.
03:19 space_librarian from 2007
03:19 eythian in that case, I can ignore it :)
03:19 eythian ah right
03:19 space_librarian the mail archive?
03:19 eythian where are you looking?
03:19 space_librarian from the looks of things, its not used (generally)
03:16 eythian and if so, does anyone know how it's used?
03:16 eythian is the 'accountoffsets' table used, anyone know?
03:13 eythian they are woefully undocumented.
03:13 eythian hmm...
03:13 eythian s
03:13 eythian # understand what the acct* tables in the Koha database are for.
03:13 eythian # FIXME - I'm not at all sure about the above, because I don't
01:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #16: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/16/
01:36 jcamins Good night, #koha
01:36 jcamins Okay, that's it for me.
01:33 wizzyrea_ lol
01:30 rangi http://failbook.failblog.org/2011/01/28/funny-facebook-fails-gandalf-or-dumbledore/
01:29 wizzyrea_ i liked christopher pike
01:25 bg yeah Anne Rice ones are good
01:25 * jcamins actually read Harry Potter before they become popular. His grandmother gave him one of the advance copies they gave out to librarians in an effort to sell the book in the States.
01:25 space_librarian I have always been a BtVS and Christopher Pike/Anne Rice vampire person...
01:25 wizzyrea_ for a while
01:25 wizzyrea_ and it was my default search
01:24 wizzyrea_ well that's not true, I have had to pick it up in the library occasionally
01:24 bg decent new vampire-ish book - is "the passage"
01:24 wizzyrea_ I haven't touched twiligt
01:24 space_librarian no, vampires shouldn't sparkle
01:24 * jcamins read and watched Harry Potter. Not Twilight, though.
01:24 bg actually loved them - but vampires don't sparkle
01:24 wizzyrea_ I read the last book in 15 hours >.>
01:24 wizzyrea_ bg: same here
01:24 druthb I saw part of the first Twilight movie, and that was all I can stand.
01:24 bg heh I've read both and watched all the movies
01:23 eythian (the harry potter ones, that is)
01:23 wizzyrea_ but i read the first one and it was actually good
01:23 eythian I saw a couple of the movies, but in my defence I had a girlfriend who made me do it.
01:23 wizzyrea_ I was resistant to harry potter at first
01:23 space_librarian you're not missing anything on Twilight
01:23 rangi for either harry potter or twilight
01:23 rangi i havent seen a movie or read one of the books
01:23 druthb she did. (as did I)
01:23 wizzyrea_ druthb: did she like the books?
01:22 wizzyrea_ (and longer, obviously)
01:22 wizzyrea_ and they get progressively harder
01:22 wizzyrea_ bc the first one is easy
01:22 druthb but she fangirls all *over* Daniel Radcliffe.
01:22 wizzyrea_ well harry potter keeps sucking in younger kids
01:21 space_librarian last movie comes out in June
01:21 druthb my teen laughs at the goofiness of twilight.
01:21 wizzyrea_ afaik, yea
01:21 bg twilight I'd guess
01:21 druthb very.
01:21 jcamins My wife asks if Harry Potter is still popular with teens... does anyone know?
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01:20 jenkins_koha rangi: job Koha_master build scheduled now
01:20 rangi !jenkins build Koha_master now
01:19 wizzyrea_ hi there
01:19 druthb hi, wizzyrea_ :)
01:19 jcamins Either that or he was offended that the zoo got three exclamation marks and he only got one.
01:18 rangi heh
01:18 wizzyrea_ he doesn't like taking orders I guess
01:16 rangi !jenkins build Koha_master now
01:13 * jcamins is within walking distance of the Zoo!!!!
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