Time Nick Message
01:16 thd rangi: are you present?
01:16 rangi yes
01:16 thd rangi: What do you know about the Chopac ILS?
01:17 rangi nothing
01:18 thd rangi: see http://chopac.org
01:18 rangi k
01:18 rangi what am i looking for?
01:18 thd rangi: Unfortunately the download seems to be missing http://chopac.org/down.html .
01:19 rangi yeah thats a particularly crap site
01:19 thd rangi: The Amazon to MARC 21 conversions are interesting despite some problems.
01:19 rangi yeah
01:19 thd rangi: It is only the conversion tools which interest me.
01:19 rangi i emailed charles about them
01:20 eythian the marc in the item marc view isn't complete, it has no subfield indicators.
01:20 thd rangi: Has he responed?
01:20 eythian That's pretty odd
01:20 thd s/responed/responded/
01:20 rangi yes, but not to my what license is it under
01:20 rangi without that, everything else is pointless
01:21 thd rangi: Exactly.
01:21 thd rangi: We could fix the bugs and make many enhancements.
01:21 eythian writing a * to marc converter would be easy provided you had a way of scraping all the required information
01:21 rangi same with marcedit
01:22 rangi which is why i dont get excited by either
01:22 rangi freeware interests me not at all
01:22 thd rangi: Exactly.
01:22 rangi thd: you might like to email, ask if he wants to release it under gpl3
01:23 thd rangi: or AGPL 3 :)
01:23 rangi either works ;)
01:24 thd rangi: Galen is pursuing the GPLS dependency issue but he has been busy with forming the legal organisation for Evergreen.
01:24 rangi *nod*
01:25 thd eythian: There is are APIs from Amazon which avoids the need for scraping.
01:25 thd However, Amazon does not favour truly open data.
01:25 rangi they do of course keep changing them
01:25 eythian well, by scraping, I mean some way of fetching it all. But yeah.
01:25 rangi see broken reviews
01:26 eythian you can also download all of IMDB in SQL (at least, last I looked several years ago)
01:26 thd eythian: Was that before Amazon bought them?
01:27 eythian Probably. I used the data for a database class in ... 2001 or '02, so a bit more than several years.
01:27 thd eythian: Do you still have the data?
01:28 eythian nope
01:29 thd eythian: They charge real money now, https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1101&L=NGC4LIB&T=0&F=&S=&P=23504 .
01:30 eythian yeah, just poking through the site.
01:30 rangi whats the license on it?
01:30 rangi money doesnt worry me either
01:30 eythian That sucks, the whole point of IMDB originally was that it was a communal database.
01:30 rangi paying money and still not being able to actually use it, that worries me
01:30 eythian http://www.imdb.com/help/show_leaf?usedatasoftware
01:31 rangi yeah, unusable by a library
01:31 eythian yeah
01:31 rangi dicks
01:32 thd ethian: IMDB was communal until they sold out to Amazon. CDDB was communal until they sold out to Gracenote.
01:32 rangi thats why you want proper licenses
01:32 rangi makes it harder to sell your soul
01:33 thd Open Library will not use Amazon APIs because they want unencumbered metadata.
01:33 rangi we should make more use of open library
01:34 rangi because they have good api, and do good things
01:34 eythian I like the idea of having a Koha-data server thing that allows library/borrower submitted data that ends up being shared amongst Koha isntances that enable it.
01:34 rangi the related subjects thing is about 80% done
01:35 eythian so reviews and ratings and so forth get shared between libraries.
01:35 rangi yeah
01:45 thd eythian++
01:59 ibeardslee hmmm that also pretty much answers another thing that had been running through my mind
02:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bdf7e79e4d1f824e0810e30a0b279bef7780c656>
02:56 hudsonbot Starting build 370 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:20 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #370: UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/370/
03:20 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
03:21 rangi !hudson build koha_master now
03:21 hudsonbot rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
03:21 hudsonbot Starting build 371 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #369 4 hr 39 min ago)
03:44 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed!
03:44 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #371: FIXED in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/371/
04:52 Brooke_ kia ora
05:00 mtj kia ora Brooke_
05:00 Brooke_ :)
05:19 * Brooke_ is like a dog chasing cars.
05:31 * Brooke_ waves to Ahmuck
05:32 Ahmuck evening brooke
05:35 Brooke_ :)
05:38 * Brooke_ waves to Ronald
06:01 Brooke_ wahanui: Maori?
06:01 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, brooke_
06:01 * Brooke_ gasps.
06:01 Brooke_ wahanui: MÄori?
06:01 wahanui i haven't a clue, brooke_
06:01 Brooke_ tsc.
06:06 Brooke_ whanui: Te RÅpÅ« Whakahau?
06:07 Brooke_ wahanui: Te RÅpÅ« Whakahau
06:07 wahanui Brooke_: excuse me?
06:07 * Brooke_ grunts.
06:10 SandeepBhavsar hi all
06:35 snail evening all
06:58 francharb hello #koha
07:37 rangi evening
07:43 paul_p hello world
07:44 rangi hi paul_p
07:45 paul_p hi rangi. do you have a few mn now for a weekly debriefing ?
07:45 paul_p (debriefing = frenchism suspected...)
07:48 rangi yep
07:48 rangi this week i have been working on 5575
07:48 paul_p french govt gave the "legion d'honneur" yesterday to Steve Ballmer :( President Sarkozy said "we are happy to have Microsoft investing in France, and are grateful for this humanist company" (i'm not kidding, hélas...)
07:48 paul_p (back to 5575 ;-) )
07:49 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencytree.cgi?id=5575&hide_resolved=1
07:49 rangi humanist? crazy
07:49 paul_p (yes, really, he said humanist...)
07:51 paul_p 5432 = hdl answered. Do you think we should fix something ?
07:52 paul_p i'm afraid othernames & initials are used for different things depending on countries...
07:52 paul_p 5728= nothing to say/add
07:52 rangi i think just carrying the surname is probably the best, but the main change needed there is to update both inc
07:53 paul_p 5730 = nothing to say/add
07:53 hdl hi
07:53 rangi yep, i havent pushed that yet but yu can see it in the catalyst repo
07:53 rangi the ones with patch pushed
07:53 rangi need testing, so they can be marked resolved
07:53 paul_p they are pushed in master or in topic branches ?
07:54 paul_p why are they on catalyst repo & not on koha-community ?
07:54 rangi if patch pushed, they are in master
07:55 rangi if they have a patch attached i have finished merging them and testing them
07:55 rangi if they dont have a patch attached, its because i think there are more patches later to be added
07:55 paul_p I think i'm still missing something with your workflow. I thought you putted topic branches on kc once you've checked the patch applied. Am I missing something?
07:56 rangi no im sending patches when i have check the patch applies and i have grouped all the common changes together
07:56 rangi the important thing to check is the patch status
07:56 paul_p ah, OK. So catalyst repo is for wip, while kc is for "sign-off/test"
07:56 rangi yep thats right
07:56 paul_p ok, got it!
07:57 rangi http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/biblibre/bug_5575/bug_5728
07:57 rangi etc
07:57 rangi 5574 has all its patches attached
07:57 rangi 5575 is about halfway
07:57 rangi but already some signed off and merged so getting there :)
08:00 paul_p the 5432 is "patch sent / needs signoff", so I should have it on kc isn't it ?
08:02 rangi its attached to the bug
08:02 rangi and sent to the koha-patches list
08:04 rangi then when its signed off it gets made into a branch and merged
08:04 rangi like 5760
08:05 paul_p too bad the dependancy graph don't display the status of the bug. That would really be handy !
08:06 paul_p ok, so what I could do usefull would be to check all the bugs related to 5574/5575, and, for those who are "pushed, pls test", test & close !
08:09 rangi yes that would be perfect
08:11 rangi bugzilla 4 is out
08:11 rangi so i might try upgrading
08:12 paul_p rangi, another question : there are already some bugfixes on some of those branches. how do you think we should deal with them ? 40% are patches not in a topic branch on git.biblibre.com and 60% of them are in a topic branch (and now, it should be 100% or 95%) ?
08:13 paul_p I would say that's something like 60 patches
08:13 paul_p (related to the branches you're merging or not)
08:16 rangi yeah thats why its taking me a while because i am looking for the fixes on your other repo
08:16 rangi usually by searching the log for the MT
08:18 paul_p rangi, that's a good idea. But the problem is that new fixes are related to new MT from libraries. So a patch may be related to something in members, but don't contains any visible link to 5575
08:18 kf good morning #koha
08:19 kf hi paul_p
08:19 paul_p rangi, for example the patch 195ec93559277 I pushed yesterday (branch MT5441)
08:19 paul_p (not yesterday, feb 14th
08:19 rangi for those ones, ill need you to update the bug with where to get it from
08:20 rangi when i have made bugs for all the parts of 5575
08:20 rangi then we can check for follow ups
08:21 paul_p so it could be usefull if I attach to 5575 some follow-ups on git.biblibre.com, with patch id and/or branch ?
08:21 paul_p ('morning kf)
08:22 rangi yes, it would be
08:23 paul_p rangi, ok, will try to do that. Probably not today, but will do !
08:24 rangi cool thanks
08:25 paul_p all: it's confirmed we have a student, starting on march 1st, for 6 months, that will be at least half-time dedicated to working on Koha patches integration & sign-off &...
08:33 magnuse paul_p: cool!
08:33 rangi ok, running version 4 now
08:33 rangi cool paul_p
08:34 rangi http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/4.0/release-notes.html
08:34 paul_p (hopefully, after the 6months, we will hire him :D )
08:34 rangi http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/4.0/release-notes.html#v40_feat_dup
08:34 rangi this will be helpful
08:35 paul_p Autocomplete for Users and Keywords => this one too !
08:36 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/query.cgi
08:36 rangi nicer advanced search too
08:36 rangi http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/4.0/release-notes.html#v40_feat_ws_changes
08:36 rangi lots of nicer webservices
08:38 magnuse paul_p: good plan
08:39 kf bugzilla++ :)
08:39 magnuse rangi: Kiritaki Koha looks interesting, too bad my wife has the only android in the house... :-)
08:39 rangi :)
08:40 magnuse (and took it with her to work, of course...)
08:41 kf hehe
08:44 * magnuse is going to read this, about bibsys and oclc: http://www.researchinformation.info/features/feature.php?feature_id=308
08:47 paul_p rangi, thx for this discussion, sweet dreams !
08:48 rangi thanks
09:19 rangi @quote random
09:19 huginn rangi: Quote #106: "<jwagner> Bah, humbug" (added by druthb at 01:31 PM, November 29, 2010)
09:19 rangi @quote random
09:19 huginn rangi: Quote #29: "< CGI634> kill self now avoid slow cataloging death" (added by chris at 09:32 PM, September 02, 2009)
10:18 magnuse oops, cloned myself by accident
10:20 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway
10:20 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0�C (10:50 AM CET on February 17, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
10:58 paul_p @wunder marseille, france
10:58 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0�C (11:30 AM CET on February 17, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady).
10:59 paul_p magnuse, come to Marseille, the weather is better ;-) (in April, don't forget your swimming suit, the sea is usually OK)
11:05 magnuse paul_p: i think i probably will
11:05 magnuse have you got any participants outside biblibre yet?
11:18 magnuse hiya druthb
11:19 druthb hi, magnus! :)
11:21 kf hi druthb :)
11:21 druthb :) guten tag, kf.
11:22 druthb magnus: would "god dag" be saying it correctly?
11:23 magnuse druthb: yep
11:23 magnuse :-)
11:24 magnuse and: god morgen|kveld = good morning|evening
11:25 druthb I'm trying to greet more of my friends in their own language, even if I can't get any more than that. :) For jwagner, I think the appropriate term is "Play Ball!" shouted enthusiastically. She speaks Baseball.
11:25 magnuse hehe
11:26 * druthb has learned some interesting German words from kf. Mostly foods--when KohaCon gets held in Germany, I won't starve.
11:26 magnuse good to know. sauerkraut!
11:27 druthb Käsefondue. mmmmmm
11:28 magnuse ooh, good one
11:28 magnuse that reminds me: lunchtime!
11:28 druthb hee hee...
11:31 * druthb just cooked up an omelett med kalkun og ost...or an omelett mit käse und türkei, if you prefer...
11:33 kf türkei?
11:33 kf druthb: it's truthahn
11:33 kf türkei is the country :)
11:35 * druthb giggles insanely.
11:35 druthb damn automated translation. I don't think we've bumped into that word before!
11:36 kf because I seldom eat truthahn probably :)
11:36 druthb Probably. This was some deli-sliced turkey, put it in as an experiment. Came out good!
11:37 kf :)
11:37 kf I had müsli mit pekannuss
11:38 druthb ooo...granola with pecans! yum.
11:39 * kf wonders what magnus has
11:41 kf magnuse: what is for lunch?
11:42 magnuse kf: two slices of bread, one with chorizo from spain and one with locally made camambert-style cheese
11:47 kf hm
11:48 kf 2 scheiben brot, eine mit Chorizo aus Spanien und eine mit lokal hergestelltem camenbertartigem käse
11:49 * kf is not the best translator
11:50 magnuse in norwegian "artig" means funny... ;-)
11:51 * druthb is a big fan of chorizo. *good* chorizo is kind of hard to get here in DC.
11:54 magnuse this one was from when my wife went to the canary islands earlier this winter :-)
12:06 druthb oooh.... a netsplit!
12:06 magnuse que?
12:07 magnuse has the internet split? doesn't sound good!
12:09 druthb and we're all back! :D
12:10 druthb magnuse: that happens when multiple IRC servers serve the same IP, in a load-balancer scheme. Those folks were all on the *other* side.
12:11 magnuse the dark side? *shivers*
12:15 druthb kf would have seen *us* all drop off abruptly, just as we saw her and the rest drop. so maybe it was us on the dark side... :P
12:20 magnuse oh no! ;-)
12:27 jcamins Good morning, #koha
12:29 nengard morning jcamins and #koha
12:29 magnuse good morning jcamins and nengard
12:52 magnuse hiya jwagner
12:52 jwagner Hi magnuse
12:57 magnuse hiya NateC
12:57 NateC morning!
12:57 magnuse day!
13:02 jcamins My sourdough starter says "hi" too.
13:06 jwagner Hi to the sourdough!
13:07 * kf waves to the sourdough
13:13 * magnuse greets the sourdough
13:15 paul_p hi jcamins & sourdough
13:16 jcamins Woohoo!
13:17 jcamins India. :)
13:17 nengard heh
13:17 nengard by a landside
13:19 magnuse huh?
13:19 nengard email
13:20 magnuse ah
13:22 magnuse yeah, that was quite a clear victory! ;-) and 877 votes is amazing
13:23 paul_p 877: 2 options = either there are 700 from India, and it clearly show a BIG interest for Koha in India, so it's good to have the KohaCon in India, or the votes are equally splitted around the world, and it's good to see 877 ppl are interested by the KohaCon11 !
13:24 paul_p my bet= it's option 1 that is the occuring one. nengard if you want/can confirm?
13:24 magnuse i agree with nengard, we might want to settle some rules to make sure kohacon will alternate between continents/countries and then vote on 2012
13:24 nengard It looks like it was mostly people in India
13:25 nengard magnuse I think we already agreed it won't be in the same country two years in a row
13:25 nengard but maybe we need more rules so it rotates around the world better
13:25 magnuse nengard: ah, ok good
13:25 kf nengard: the survey said it's anonymous on the front page - so I think we should not post the data on the wiki or elsewhere
13:26 nengard I can send the raw results to anyone who wants to see
13:26 nengard okey dokey kf
13:32 paul_p kf++ (for anonymous results)
13:33 paul_p ++ with the idea of rotating : next year in Europe or Africa !
13:33 paul_p (in Africa, i've a doubt anyone could volunteer to organize, but a reliable project would have my vote, no doudts !)
13:34 magnuse hm, if the us and india are the biggies of the koha world we could end up with kohacon there alternate years, there should be some guarantee that other continents get a chance too, i think
13:35 kf europe!
13:35 jcamins South America!
13:35 magnuse antarctica!
13:36 kf hehe
13:36 * jcamins has never been to South America or Antarctica.
13:36 jcamins Nor Australia/Oceania, for that matter.
13:38 jcamins I've been to North America, Europe, Asia, and Africa, though. :)
13:38 * jcamins thinks this settles it- clearly KohaCon 2012 needs to be in Antarctica. ;)
13:38 magnuse hehe
13:39 paul_p jcamins, well, in Europe, it's so different between Spain, Switzerland, norway (just to name 4), that you can't just say "i've been to Europe". Well... it's the same for most continents, I agree ;-)
13:39 jcamins paul_p: eventually I'll visit every single country, but right now visiting every continent is a challenge. ;)
13:40 kf paul_p++
13:40 jcamins I've also only been to Morocco in Africa, so that hardly counts at all.
13:40 paul_p (carefull readers noticing that Spain/switzerland & norway are just 3, not 4 :D)
13:40 jcamins paul_p: I thought France was implied.
13:41 paul_p nope. Because France is so beautifull & special & wonderfull & great & cute & ... that you can't compare it to any other country in the world ! (ps : kidding ;-) )
13:41 hdl Congrats Thane
13:43 magnuse yeah, congrats to thane!
13:43 nengard PDF of results linked here: http://koha-community.org/kohacon-2011-votes/
13:43 jcamins paul_p: also, my time on the continent of Asia was limited to Afghanistan, so I hardly count that as representative either.
13:45 jcamins Huh.
13:45 paul_p nengard, is it my pdf reader or most pages are almost blank with a small "HT" in a square and a few grey lines ?
13:46 jcamins I think paul_p's first guess was right.
13:46 nengard paul_p most pages are blank
13:46 jcamins paul_p: I think that's the way it is, because I noticed lots of blank pages too.
13:46 nengard the survey app generated an ugly pdf :)
14:00 jcamins Does the long overdue task send e-mails?
14:16 tcohen i'm just about to fill a bug asking for authorities add/change/remove logging
14:17 tcohen has anyone thoght about it before and has some concerns?
14:17 tcohen (about such a feature)
14:20 jcamins tcohen: that sounds like a good idea to me.
14:20 jcamins My cat is also interested to hear more. ;)
14:21 tcohen jcamins :D
14:24 kf jcamins: I think druthb said this script needs to be rewritetn
14:24 jcamins kf: which script?
14:24 kf jcamins: we never tried to use it - but perhaps you should ask her about it
14:24 kf the longoverdoes thing
14:24 jcamins Ah.
14:24 jcamins I decided to just disable the network card so that no e-mail would go out.
14:26 wizzyrea I always miss the fun conversation
14:26 jcamins wizzyrea: why's that?
14:26 wizzyrea I missed the discussion of chorizo, world travel, and your cat
14:26 kf lol
14:27 jcamins Ah.
14:27 wizzyrea :)
14:27 jcamins I, too, missed the discussion of chorizo.
14:27 kf because you are busy with the important things? :)
14:27 jwagner But at least his sourdough is joining the conversation now
14:27 wizzyrea I consider taking showers important, yes :)
14:28 jcamins My cat says taking a shower constitutes cruel and unusual punishment.
14:28 wizzyrea so does my 3 year old
14:28 nengard ha!
14:28 wizzyrea he'd much rather "play in the tub with toys"
14:28 wizzyrea do note the word "bath" is nowhere in that phrase
14:29 jcamins wizzyrea: well, of course. A bath is probably cruel and unusual too.
14:29 wizzyrea but he *asks* to play in the tub with toys... with water and soap
14:29 wizzyrea so it counts :)
14:29 nengard hehe
14:30 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks
14:30 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 15.3�C (8:32 AM CST on February 17, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000.2 hPa (Falling).
14:30 wizzyrea ^^ it's feb. In kansas. That is not right.
14:30 wizzyrea awesome, but weird.
14:31 wizzyrea lovely breeze from the south
14:34 jcamins My second-to-youngest brother passed his driving test.
14:35 kf hm who is going to answer that mail on [koha]?
14:37 wizzyrea oh my
14:38 wizzyrea where to even start there.
14:39 wizzyrea does anyone remember a definitive blog post that we could point him to
14:39 wizzyrea something already done
14:39 wizzyrea or a mailing list post
14:39 kf hm, there is the first post on the website - but it's perhaps not specific enough
14:39 wizzyrea we really ought to have a stock answer for that
14:40 wizzyrea maybe owen did something...
14:40 * jcamins is too busy being horrified by the fact that his second-to-youngest brother can *drive* to focus on the question at hand, sorry.
14:40 wizzyrea how much younger is he?
14:40 jcamins 8 years.
14:41 jcamins In no time at all my youngest brother is going to be driving.
14:41 thd nengard: Are you able to upload a CSV file now?
14:41 nengard i sent it to galen - but he's removing all identifying info before he uploads it
14:42 gmcharlt http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/images/Kohacon2011-site-survey-results-anonymized.csv
14:43 thd nengard: All identifying info?
14:43 nengard emails and names
14:43 thd gmcharlt: If we have no identifying info then we have an easy case for voter fraud with an open electorate.
14:44 wizzyrea we *have* the info, it's just not *public*
14:44 wizzyrea but could likely be provided on request, correct?
14:45 kf wizzyrea: I don't think it would be right to do it
14:45 kf not sure what the statement on the front page exactly said
14:45 kf but I remember the word anonymous
14:45 nengard thd we can send you the raw results - but we don't want that posted on the wiki where others can grab our info
14:45 thd wizzyrea: As long as it is clear that it is available for inspection then we have a sufficiently transparent process.
14:45 wizzyrea I think that's clear
14:45 nengard thd do you want me to send it to you?
14:46 wizzyrea it's clear to me anyway
14:46 nengard I did say I'd share with anyone if you asked for it
14:46 wizzyrea ^^ clear enough for me
14:46 thd nengard: I assumed that you checked for excessive duplications of info :)
14:47 nengard there is an excessive duplication of info - but that's on the institution level and you can see that on the wiki
14:47 nengard no names or emails were repeated
14:47 nengard there were a couple names that weren't real but not enough to skew the results
14:47 thd I found the number of votes a little surprising but South Asia is very densely populated.
14:48 nengard yup
14:49 thd As long as it is seen to be fair and sufficiently transparent that is fine.
14:49 nengard k
14:49 jcamins Fortunately there will be another KohaCon next year, so anyone who feels aggrieved can submit another proposal.
14:49 jcamins :)
14:50 nengard and we already said it won't be in the same country two times in a row
14:50 nengard so India can't win again next year
14:50 magnuse yeah, and lets get that ball rolling the sooner the better ;-)
14:50 nengard yes
14:50 nengard agreed
14:50 nengard I'll set it up whenever you all ask me to do so
14:50 kf perhaps continent would be better
14:50 kf not the same continent twice
14:51 nengard that's fine with me too
14:51 nengard makes sense
14:51 jcamins kf: that would make sense, though paul_p would probably suggest that France and England are continents apart. ;)
14:51 nengard hehe
14:51 kf hehe
14:52 paul_p lol
14:53 paul_p Note that France already had the 1st KohaCon (in 2006), and there is a yearly french conference organized by Kohala. So i don't think anyone will candidate for a long time
14:54 kf hmpf :)
14:54 magnuse i would suggest having two or even three kohacons before it can return to the same country/continent, or we might end up alternating between the us and india (which are both fine countries, but giving europe, africa, oceania... a chance now and then would be nice too ;-)
14:55 thd nengard: Do you know why the timestamps are all the same?
14:55 magnuse paul_p: no interest in expanding the french conf to a global conf for one year?
14:55 jcamins magnuse: if they did that they'd only get one Koha conference. I can see the logic.
14:55 paul_p magnuse, you know what's the pain with frenchies ? they speak french :D
14:55 kf paup_p: same thought here
14:56 kf yep, that's really a pain
14:56 * kf ducks
14:56 magnuse ok, we could give them/you some years to learn english first... ;-)
14:56 kf no, the real pain is that _I_ don't speak french
14:56 * magnuse ducks
14:57 nengard thd looks like a setting is off on limesurvey or on my server
14:58 thd paul_p: French seems half English if written out. The bigger problem is that the French speak to quickly and I cannot separate the sounds well enough.
14:59 thd s/sounds/words/
15:00 * thd level of French still seems less than a one year old. Such a difficult language.
15:13 hdl btw paul_p would you also announce the Kohala meeting soon in France on koha lists ?
15:15 thd I expect that VPM will need some large hall for KohaCon.
15:16 jcamins thd: if they have that many people attending, I'd say so!
15:16 nengard webinar time - ttyl
15:18 druthb Wi-fi on a *bus*. who knew?
15:19 magnuse druthb: the airport shuttle in wellington has that, apparently ;-)
15:20 rhcl_away wouldn't it be cool if hudson could translate? something like:
15:20 rhcl_away @hudson translate "Lorsque j'affecte un ticket à un "Groupe demandeur" les membres de ce groupe ne visualisent pas le ticket en question (à l'exception évidemment du demandeur originel)."
15:20 huginn rhcl_away: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:20 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
15:20 jcamins i'll give you the answer as soon as rda?
15:21 rhcl beats me. Not my day to watch hudson
15:21 jcamins the answer as soon as rda?
15:21 jcamins I wonder what Wahanui was responding to.
15:22 druthb wahanui: RDA is ready
15:22 wahanui ...but rda is a room in a twisty maze of standards...
15:22 druthb lol
15:23 rhcl you have to use an onion router then
15:34 * jwagner hands druthb the Velcro
15:34 druthb thanx, jwagner. :)
15:34 * druthb puts on her seatbelt, just for good measure.
15:35 * druthb is stuck on I-95 somewhere between DC and Bawlmer...but at least the wi-fi sorta works.
15:37 jwagner Ya know, I remember complaints from various road trips in the dim and distant pass, where the silver lining was "at least the radio works" -- my how times change....
15:37 * druthb giggles.
15:37 jcamins jwagner: it's much the same thing... wifi is part of the electromagnetic spectrum, too.
15:38 jwagner But not as useful in pacifying the "are we there yet" backseat crowd, unless all of them have laptops/wifi devices :-)
15:39 oleonard Imagine if you could only receive certain parts of the internet depending on where you were on the road.
15:39 jwagner oleonard, Google Maps takes over the Internet?
15:39 oleonard "Oh man the internet here in western Kansas is awful! All I can get is farming web sites!"
15:40 druthb oleonard: That is, in fact, the case here--I'm having to use Mibbit, and SSH is no-go. whole big chunks of the Internet landscape are blacked out... :P
15:41 * druthb spends too much of her time crawling around in the low-level protocols of the Internets, possibly.
15:46 rangi druthb: there's an easy fix for that, run a ssh server on port 80, thats what i do
15:47 rangi and yes, i shouldnt be awake, kahu has a stomach bug :(
15:49 * jwagner sends Kahu sympathy and Pepto-Bismol
15:49 * jwagner sends rangi a stiff drink :-)
15:49 gmcharlt rangi: just don't confuse the two ;)
15:50 * druthb seeks out the tranquiliser darts.
15:53 rangi heh
15:54 * druthb would use tranquilizer darts, but they might not work on kiwis, because of the mis-spelling.
15:58 jcamins I don't understand how Farmington comes up with so many problems.
15:59 * paul_p sing a french song to help kahu falling asleep again...
15:59 jcamins Whoops, sorry about that last.
15:59 jcamins Wrong window.
16:00 oleonard Pesky customers ;)
16:00 jcamins oleonard: no, pesky bugs!
16:00 oleonard Ah, then the customers are doing valuable bug-hunting!
16:01 jcamins Yes, what's baffling to me is all the finding! They're finding edge cases for me that I would _never_ find on my own.
16:01 paul_p oleonard, lol. How life would be easier without librarians... hey... but ... without librarians no libraries, no Koha, no BibLibre, no money for my family, homeless man. Well, all counted, good customers :D
16:01 gmcharlt paul_p++
16:04 druthb paul_p++
16:05 * druthb tries to picture paul_p as a homeless hobo, and fails. He'd look classy even doing that...
16:05 * oleonard was thinking the same thing
16:05 * jcamins tries to picture paul_p as a homeless hobo and fails. He doesn't know what paul_p looks like.
16:05 oleonard paul_p would also make for an intimidatingly tall homeless man
16:06 paul_p jcamins, choose the one you want : http://www.google.com/images?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=paul+poulain&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=fr&tab=wi&biw=1676&bih=907 :D
16:06 oleonard http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3450102567/
16:07 jcamins Wow. Yes, intimidatingly tall.
16:07 jcamins And, indeed, very classy.
16:07 jcamins :)
16:08 druthb that's schuster with him in the flickr pic, jcamins, and schuster is kinda shortish; I'm nearly a full head taller than schuster, so paul_p is about eyebrows-up taller than me.
16:09 jcamins druthb: you'd be kind of intimidatingly tall as a hobo, too.
16:09 paul_p for everyone information: i'm 1m94 So tall, but not NBA-size tall ;-)
16:10 druthb well, yes, I would. Now, who is *this* hairy beast? http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3453204741
16:10 * jcamins is ~1m76 tall. Quite a lot shorter.
16:12 * oleonard gets sucked into looking at KohaCon photos...
16:13 * sekjal was there, but probably isn't in any of the pics
16:14 * druthb was there, but is only in a few very-regrettable pictures, like that one.
16:16 * druthb waves to nengard from somewhere north of Baltimore.
16:17 sekjal yup, I think I managed to stay completely invisible for that conference.
16:17 druthb sekjal, if nengard didn't get any pix of you, then none where taken, I think. She was pretty camera-happy there.
16:18 druthb s/where/were/
16:18 nengard which conference?
16:18 druthb KohaCon 09
16:18 nengard ian you were there?
16:18 sekjal yup
16:18 nengard I didn't remember nate being there either until i went through my pics :)
16:18 nengard I'll have to see if you're in any of them :)
16:18 nengard i was running around like a maniac there
16:19 nengard no comment from druthb needed
16:19 druthb hehehe...
16:19 * druthb mutters something you cannot quite hear.
16:19 nengard http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/sets/72157616772558301/
16:19 nengard I could leave you at that train station you know
16:20 druthb I don't think you would do that.
16:20 jwagner druthb, see http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3450087337/in/set-72157616772558301/
16:20 * jwagner chortles
16:21 druthb @quote get 102
16:21 huginn druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010)
16:22 nengard wow i took some blurry pics
16:23 wizzyrea i think the wal mart trip ones are my favorite lol
16:23 druthb nengard has this talent for grabbing me in less-than-flattering photos. (It's not hard; she's not the only one with that particular talent)
16:23 nengard wizzyrea that was fun :) hehe
16:23 nengard i like this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3450102567/in/set-72157616772558301/
16:24 wizzyrea this is the cheesecake that joetho threw at pianohacker
16:24 wizzyrea http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3448509965/in/set-72157616772558301/
16:24 wizzyrea haha
16:24 wizzyrea that is a good one nengard
16:25 wizzyrea you know I did not remember that I had dinner with daniel grobani
16:25 nengard hehe
16:25 nengard glad i'm not alone in this
16:25 nengard i remember so little
16:25 wizzyrea haha!
16:26 nengard then again i was not happy at that time so i blocked a lot out
16:26 wizzyrea I remember this tho: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3446692207/in/set-72157616772558301/
16:26 nengard :)
16:26 nengard okay i went through them all - no ian anywhere!
16:27 rangi there is one
16:27 rangi might be in galens or lees
16:27 wizzyrea can I just say, I'm so grateful to have you all as friends.
16:28 sekjal awww!
16:28 * druthb agrees with wizzyrea.
16:28 gmcharlt http://www.flickr.com/photos/gmcharlt/4379557354/
16:28 * jcamins too
16:28 druthb My life, has been truly blessed by y'all.
16:28 wizzyrea AHA
16:29 wizzyrea it is a rare sighting of sekjal in the wild
16:29 gmcharlt he moves so quickly that I couldn't get a clear picture
16:29 sekjal you can see that I'm naturally drawn to the shadows...
16:29 gmcharlt (well, that's my story and I'm sticking by it ;) )
16:29 * sekjal has a goth moment
16:30 druthb gmcharlt: blame the camera.
16:30 wizzyrea he also hisses and has fangs
16:30 wizzyrea true story
16:30 wizzyrea wait
16:30 wizzyrea no he doesn't
16:32 nengard sekjal i think you told me like 3 times that you gave a talk at kohacon09 ... such a crap memory
16:32 sekjal sometimes there is hissing... mostly at my cats, though
16:32 sekjal nengard: I didn't give a talk, but I did stand up with an idea at one point
16:33 nengard got it
16:35 rangi heres a fun photo
16:36 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/taniwha/5435813502/in/photostream/
16:36 nengard oleonard++
16:36 nengard (catching up on emails)
16:36 rangi and close up
16:36 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/taniwha/5435199621/in/photostream/
16:36 rangi gotta love foo camp
16:37 nengard rangi that is too funny
16:37 nengard wasn't sure what i was looking at in the far out pic
16:40 * liw waves and regrets kohacon non-attendance
16:41 * sekjal is looking forward to KohaCon '11
16:42 nengard nengard is going to miss kohacon 11
16:42 * druthb is hoping the boss will send her to KohaCon 11
16:42 liw has the location been decided?
16:42 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/taniwha/5435806556/in/photostream/
16:42 nengard liw read the blog :)
16:43 rangi hehe, everyone is listening cept some tall koha dude who is too busy drinking
16:43 liw except for this channel, I'm entirely detached from Koha :(
16:43 wizzyrea you lush
16:44 nengard liw, yes Thane was chosen
16:45 liw and I can't find the blog url on koha-community.org easily
16:45 jcamins liw: it's the front page. :)
16:45 liw ah, too obvious
16:45 oleonard_ You just have to scroll down past "About this site"
16:46 liw India, eh
16:46 oleonard Travelocity says ~ $1200 from where I am.
16:48 nengard one of the reasons i won't be going
16:48 nengard can't afford that two years in a row
16:48 jcamins As little as ~$1100 from NYC.
16:48 * oleonard was hoping for something a little closer this year
16:48 nengard yup
16:48 nengard me too
16:48 oleonard But I hate to miss two in a row.
16:49 nengard not traveling with a crutch again
16:49 oleonard My wife will want to send me just so I won't grump around the house the whole week like I did in 2010.
16:50 druthb 1300-ish for me...DC to NYC then to Mumbai via either Doha or Abu Dhabi or Istanbul.
16:51 jcamins Istanbul is the least expensive from NYC.
16:51 liw this is why the free software world needs its own Zeppelin
16:52 druthb istanbul makes for the cheapest route for me, via Chicago, of all things.
16:52 * jcamins would prefer to fly through Istanbul than Abu Dhabi.
16:53 rangi 1903 $nzd is the cheapest i can get
16:53 * druthb would prefer to fly *with* someone else, regardless of where. jcamins, sekjal, if you guys are going, let's plan for that, hm?
16:54 oleonard Yeah, but could you bear having the song in your head the whole time jcamins? http://vimeo.com/6746927
16:54 * druthb suspects she knows what oleonard linked, and resists the psuedo-rick-roll.
16:54 sekjal druthb: yes, we can definitely arrange same-planes.
16:54 jcamins oleonard: I don't know the song very well.
16:54 jcamins Anyway, I've already been to Istanbul.
16:55 wizzyrea listen a few times it's not hard to learn >.>
16:55 * wizzyrea curses oleonard for now getting that stuck in my head
16:55 jcamins druthb: yes, that's a good idea.
16:55 jcamins Shari may want to come. Of course, last time Shari went to India she was sick for six months.
16:56 wizzyrea !!
16:56 rangi im going to be just getting back to nz from canada right about then, so might not be making it either
16:56 oleonard No rangi at KohaCon?!
16:56 * oleonard will stay home and sulk
16:56 druthb sekjal, jcamins: thanx. I'm relatively certain I could do it alone....but let's not tempt fate un-necessarily.
16:57 nengard oleonard that's what i'll be doing :) hehe
16:57 sekjal nengard and I were on the same planes, both ways, totally by accident, and it was very nice
16:57 nengard rangi what dates are the canada trip?
16:57 nengard yes, bengard kept sekjal company while i slept :)
16:58 nengard and both boys used my wheelchair to get them through security faster :)
16:58 Brooke_ kia ora!!!!
16:59 nengard i knew she'd be happy :)
16:59 * Brooke_ is overstimulated.
17:01 rangi nengard: http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/
17:02 rangi im speaking there, you should come
17:02 rangi that goes for everyone
17:02 nengard rangi that's why i asked - cause i might be able to do that instead of kohacon
17:03 nengard yikes
17:03 nengard pretty close to internet librarian which is (October 17 ? 19, 2011)
17:04 rangi yeah, but access is about a million times cooler
17:04 nengard internet librarian promotes my books - including the one that shold be out that month
17:04 nengard kinda got to make an appearance
17:04 nengard but i'll see what i can work out
17:05 nengard both are west coast so i should be able to make it work
17:13 sekjal wehoo! got positive reports on a live SIP machine that my Unicode patch works
17:13 Brooke_ :)
17:13 wizzyrea <3
17:14 wizzyrea sekjal++
17:14 * wizzyrea hugs sekjal
17:14 Brooke_ sekjal just does things for the attentions of the ladies.
17:14 * Brooke_ ducks.
17:14 wizzyrea does that mean we can check out pokémon now?
17:14 sekjal testing with another client right now
17:14 wizzyrea through self checks?
17:14 sekjal wizzyrea: yes, that's what this patch does
17:14 wizzyrea I LOVE YOU.
17:14 wizzyrea <3
17:15 wizzyrea but seriously, good job
17:15 wizzyrea way to spank the SIP into submission!
17:16 sekjal I based my work off http://www.mail-archive.com/open-ils-dev@list.georgialibraries.org/msg04127.html
17:16 wizzyrea that bug has been an annoyance to us since we went live on koha
17:17 jcamins Things that are probably a bad sign: 1. I cannot restart my computer.
17:18 sekjal Brooke_: don't think that your comment went unnoticed.
17:18 Brooke_ >:)
17:18 * wizzyrea loves sekjal in a "he fixes many problems that we care about can we please keep him" kind of way
17:19 nengard :)
17:19 * druthb checks the log...
17:19 * druthb pounces on the "we love sekjal" bandwagon.
17:19 oleonard nengard: Your Mac/Chrome/Calendar bug has an interesting explanation
17:19 nengard do i want to hear it?
17:20 wizzyrea does it have to do with gnomes?
17:20 oleonard The calendar widget's CSS uses a now-deprecated CSS property called "system colors"
17:20 oleonard http://www.iangraham.org/books/xhtml1/appd/update-23feb2000.html
17:20 * jcamins swears off of computers.
17:20 nengard so that means you can fix it? :)
17:20 oleonard When you set the background color to "ActiveCaption" as it does, the browser is supposed to know what your computer's system uses for "Active window caption"
17:21 wizzyrea jcamins: that will make your job difficult, no?
17:21 oleonard Obviously Chrome on the Mac has a problem with this.
17:21 jcamins wizzyrea: not as difficult as computers make my job.
17:22 jcamins oleonard: funny you should mention that. It would seem Chrome on the Mac has lots of problems.
17:22 oleonard nengard: What I'd like to do is ditch that calendar widget and use the default jQueryUI version, but I'm not sure if everyone would go for that
17:22 oleonard The widget we use does have more features
17:22 nengard you're the expert so i defer to you on all design type decisions
17:24 Brooke_ the unwashed masses have <3d oleonard's decisions in past.
17:24 rangi im all for using default jquery where we can
17:24 jcamins Yup. Chrome crashed my computer by freezing the GPU.
17:25 jcamins How does that even make sense?
17:25 rhcl maybe you got hit early?
17:25 rhcl http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-02/tuesdays-solar-flare-set-slam-earth-tonight
17:25 rangi because it is updated, and is in debian
17:25 * wizzyrea must be unique: I have had so little issue with chrome
17:25 rangi if its not packaged, i dont want it
17:25 rangi i might put that on a tshirt
17:26 * Brooke_ cheers rangi
17:26 rangi or
17:26 rangi if its not packaged, ill make robin package it
17:26 rangi :)
17:26 wizzyrea oh snap
17:26 Brooke_ why do these people in my inbox not understand that I'm the c64 of cataloguing?
17:27 rangi liw created a monster :)
17:27 liw rangi, I want that t-shirt too!
17:31 rangi :)
17:31 rangi whats a good shirt place, that isnt cafepress?
17:32 rangi http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/program/ <-- call for submissions just went out
17:32 druthb I have used zazzle with decent results, though neither zazzle or cafepress has much in the way of plus-size women's stuff. Very annoying.
17:32 oleonard nengard: Your interim solution is to add this to IntranetUserCSS: div.calendar thead td.title { background: #DDD none; }
17:32 Brooke_ dunno, got me cataloguing polo from cafespress in the before time
17:33 oleonard nengard: ...or your color of choice :)
17:33 sekjal aaaaaaaaaaaand, the patch works at the second library (which also tested for patrons with diacritics in their names)
17:33 * oleonard hands out hot pink calendar widgets for everyone
17:33 sekjal going to wrap it up and submit
17:33 wizzyrea woohoowoohoowoohoo
17:35 rangi someone better sign off on it
17:35 rangi and while i mention it
17:36 rangi 168!
17:36 rhcl who gets the profits (if any) from this: http://shop.cafepress.com/koha
17:37 rangi +136 pushed
17:37 wizzyrea liblime owns that
17:37 rhcl we need a koha-community one
17:38 rhcl and we need some official Koha colors
17:38 rhcl and a Koha mascot
17:38 * jcamins suggests his sourdough starter makes an excellent mascot. :)
17:38 rhcl and an official Koha bird
17:38 rhcl A duck would be nice
17:41 druthb jcamins: I second the nomination of your sourcough starter.
17:41 druthb as long as you open-source it. ;-)
17:41 Brooke_ I think his sourdough starter
17:41 rangi http://www.theopensauce.com/
17:42 Brooke_ probably bears a startling resemblance to the blobbies from the wayback
17:42 jcamins rangi: nifty.
17:52 gmcharlt rhcl: there once was a mascot - http://www.flickr.com/photos/gmcharlt/3446992795/
17:53 rhcl yea, ok. Looks like a gingerbread man, but I suppose he could be fashioned out of sourdough
17:54 Brooke_ :)
17:54 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3450085059/ <-- and tshirts with it on
17:55 Brooke_ Ms. Blake, QSM is in possession of a hoodie for instance
17:55 sekjal all this flickr-ry has gotten me looking at my old albums...
17:57 rhcl is/was purple a semi-official Koha color?
17:57 rhcl I like purple.
17:58 Brooke_ gero purpurum
18:21 tcohen Biblio::ModZebra -> if (nozebra,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
18:21 gmcharlt tcohen: and?
18:22 tcohen I think we should call that function other way
18:23 gmcharlt ReindexBiblio or RequestBiblioReindex or something like that?
18:23 tcohen yes
18:24 tcohen by the way, do u know if the bug in indexdata stuff that prevents us from use ModZebrafiles
18:24 tcohen is still open?
18:25 hdl Where is that function ModZebrafiles ?
18:26 tcohen it's commented out, just before ModZebra in Biblio.pm
18:27 hdl tcohen: I guess it would be quite easy to test.
18:28 hdl launch more than one zebraidx update at once
18:28 tcohen i'm just reading the Biblio.pm and AuthoritiesMarc.pm code to provide a patch for a bug i plan to open
18:28 tcohen for logging authorities add/mod/del actions
18:29 tcohen hdl: i'll give it a try
18:29 tcohen i should: generate several xml files, run several zebraidx onthem at the same time?
18:31 hdl tcohen: yes
18:31 hdl have a nice evening
18:32 tcohen hdl: thanks
18:32 rangi Hdl I will try to be at the persistance meeting
18:32 rangi I may fall asleep but will try :)
18:34 rangi This bus is older than I am
18:35 nengard rangi thanks for that open sauce link!!
18:35 nengard I've signed up :0
18:35 nengard :)
18:35 rangi Cool :)
18:39 rangi Its been round a while
18:39 rangi I used it when I was at katipo at least
18:41 * rangi is writing his abstract for access
18:41 rangi I should submit it with all the wrong autocorrects
18:41 rangi That would be pretty fun
18:47 rangi sekjal: did you see fredericd email?
18:47 sekjal yes
18:48 sekjal as well as dpavlin's comment on the bug report
18:48 rangi I guess we need to add a config variable?
18:48 rangi Ahh what did he say? Same thing?
18:49 sekjal he implemented it a different way
18:49 sekjal bug 4828
18:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4828 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Erroneous SIP2 behaviour with non ascii characters
18:49 sekjal yes, a config variable would be a good thing, if this isn't a univeral problem for all SIP machines
18:50 rangi Ahhh
18:50 rangi Cool
18:50 rangi Its all forward movement :)
18:50 sekjal the code I copied and modified has a conditional that could be expanded on easily enough
18:50 sekjal instead of hard-setting the value, use a config variable
18:52 sekjal looking at the config file now, trying to think where I could dump the variable that makes sense
18:52 rangi Sweet
18:53 sekjal probably in <service>, rather than <accounts>
18:55 rangi Yeah problem is
18:55 rangi What if you have a mix?
18:55 rangi One new one old machine
18:55 rangi I guess u run 2 servers
18:57 sekjal if it's at the <service> level, you'd just be on different ports
18:57 sekjal or protocols or timeouts
18:57 rangi Sweet
18:58 rangi Ok my stop bbiab
19:13 wizzyrea you'll all be happy to know that the kudos website is now located at kudos.koha-community.org :)
19:14 mtj wizzyrea++
19:14 wizzyrea (the old url will still work, just fyi)
19:14 oleonard Hooray!
19:14 mtj cheers liz
19:14 rangi wizzyrea: not in my books it wont
19:14 rangi :)
19:14 wizzyrea :)
19:21 mtj oooh, nabble++
19:21 mtj http://nabble-support.1.n2.nabble.com/Request-to-update-Koha-ILS-mailing-lists-topic-page-with-new-website-address-td6029182.html
19:21 mtj http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/
19:22 mtj i've wanted that one fixed for a while now… ;)
19:24 rangi :)
19:24 * wizzyrea wonders if that broke the RSS feeds on the website, adds it to her list
19:24 wizzyrea of things to check
19:24 wizzyrea I suspect it didn't
19:27 mtj updating/correcting the nabble stuff might be my little project
19:28 * wizzyrea makes sure you have rights
19:28 wizzyrea to do that
19:28 mtj … theres some other little corrections needed for Koha stuff on nabble
19:30 wizzyrea ohh nabble makes much prettier RSS feeds than gmane
19:31 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
19:38 * oleonard wonders what kind of serials data you need to reproduce nengard's results in Bug 5768...
19:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5768 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, serial enumeration appearing twice in staff client
19:46 oleonard My catalog seems to be displaying "enumchron" but not "serialseq"
19:49 oleonard ...or maybe the other way around...
20:43 rangi ahh found it
20:44 rangi here is the song i was looking for when i was talking about forward movement
20:44 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kxhHIOehQw
20:56 francharb1 bye all
21:08 cait hi #koha
21:09 eythian hoi cait
21:09 cait hi eythian :)
21:09 rangi hi cait
21:10 cait hi rangi :)
21:11 cait hm I agree about the sip things - I think it even works with hebrew
21:11 cait should check that tomorrow
21:11 * cait is talking to herself
21:12 rangi :)
21:13 cait long day
21:14 cait how is friday?
21:14 rangi so far so good
21:14 cait :)
21:18 eythian rangi: if you want to have a TV debut, there's apparently filming at Hashigo at lunch time today...:)
21:19 rangi oh yeah?
21:20 rangi i gotta be at the blood thingy place at 12.30
21:20 rangi kahu getting a blood test
21:20 eythian > The Craft Beer TV Roadshow reaches Wellington tomorrow (Friday). We're told that the film crew on wheels will be at Hashigo Zake around lunchtime to capture some footage and, perhaps, the wisdom of some local identities in the craft beer business.
21:20 eythian rangi: oh, I was going to say: stocking up on a beer 30 minutes before giving blood would be an excellent idea :)
21:21 rangi the mahara people are talkinga about gerrit
21:21 eythian the recipient would surely thank you
21:21 eythian gerrit?
21:21 rangi http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/
21:21 rangi might be worth having a look at
21:21 eythian the brief sounds similar to how launchpad works
21:21 rangi *nod*
21:21 magnuse Hashigo Zake? hey, i've been there!
21:22 eythian you have your own branch, and nominate for merging whereupon people review and accept/decline with comments.
21:22 eythian magnuse: jup
21:22 rangi something to maybe have a play with
21:22 rangi altho the statuses in bugzilla seem to be working pretty well too
21:23 eythian yeah, I quite liked it when I saw it in action, but I never actually used it myself.
21:24 cait magnuse: same thought here :)
21:24 magnuse cait: great minds think alike... ;-)
21:24 cait hmpf
21:25 cait this mind is tired
21:25 magnuse mine too
21:25 eythian http://www.dangerousminds.net/index.php/site/comments/cookie_monster_helps_train_ibm_sales_staff_1967/
21:27 * magnuse wishes #koha and all it's inhabitants a good night and a good weekend - see ya on monday!
21:27 rangi cya magnuse
21:28 eythian bye
21:28 magnuse bye!
21:30 rangi hi LBA
21:30 eythian Logical Block Access
21:31 LBA heh heh...yea should have gone lower case....
21:31 * LBA waves to rangi
21:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5769' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c43aac22a2cc7c511820d5d6e791daed6c01ee46> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5682' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=92f52dc8509664dc305e386a198428146566dbb3> / NormalizeString POD Fixing and variable renaming <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=comm
21:54 rangi hiya NateC
21:56 NateC hi rangi!
21:56 hudsonbot Starting build 372 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED)
22:01 rangi wow bugzilla 4 is cool
22:01 rangi the automatic detection of trying to find duplicate bugs is sweet
22:02 rangi just saved me making a new bug for this 5436
22:02 rangi you just start typing and it starts suggesting bugs that might be the same
22:02 rangi rules!
22:11 bg afternoon
22:11 rangi hi bg
22:11 bg :)
22:13 wizzyrea oh hey that's sweet
22:13 wizzyrea dupe detection
22:20 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #372: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/372/
22:20 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5140 - In Chrome, drop-down menus disappear after using pop-up calendar
22:20 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5769 - notice tab disappearing on edit patron
22:20 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: NormalizeString POD Fixing and variable renaming
23:15 thd rangi: are you here now/
23:18 thd rangi: We are about to have a nice new contribution to Koha cataloguing.
23:45 gmcharlt thd: what is it?
23:51 * jcamins_away is always interested in cataloging and Koha!
23:54 thd gmcharlt: http://amazon.libcat.org/azorder.pl and http://amazon.libcat.org/cgi-bin/imdb2marc.pl .
23:55 thd gmcharlt: I just finished speaking to the developer on the telephone explaining how to add a license to his work.
23:56 mtj well done thd :)
23:56 thd gmcharlt: He said that he would prepare the code for distribution under a suitable free software license next week.
23:56 jcamins_away Now all we need is dinner and we're good to go. :D
23:56 * jcamins_away mumbles off wandering about dinner...