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23:30 Brooke_ kia ora
23:28 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 15.7�C (3:33 PM PST on February 16, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady).
23:28 bg @wunder 93109
23:05 hudsonbot Magnus Enger: Bug 2742 Followup patch fixing Norwegian bokm?l, adding nynorsk
23:04 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #369: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/369/
22:56 bg just testing to see if atz has a keyword alert for SIP :)
22:56 bg SIP
22:44 sekjal time for me to call it a night
22:44 sekjal rhcl: thought it was already a standard in use... like Z39.50 for unicode.... obviously I was reading too much into the vague Google results
22:42 rhcl guess it's time to go grab a cup of coffee...
22:42 rhcl z39.60 is a new standard I'm proposing to replace SIP
22:42 hudsonbot Starting build 369 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:41 rhcl ah, I'm disappointed. Thought somebody would query the .60, but I guess I was too subtle.
22:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_2742' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b1b6b8315dcc0d4aba9dbd5d75ca868e8bc9bdc> / Bug 2742 Followup patch fixing Norwegian bokmål, adding nynorsk <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d82c493f76b609df48478219e75d901df80b055>
22:40 sekjal good for getting bibliographic info, but not patron or circulation data
22:38 rhcl I was thinking Z39.60
22:37 sekjal rhcl: for specific ILS systems, it's probably better to use whatever API they may have. but SIP/NCIP are standards (more or less) that work well enough for a large enough number of systems
22:35 rhcl so conceptually is there some better way than SIP/NCIP to query a remote db? Kyle must be doing something different with Libki.
22:27 atz modern network communication (TCPIP) already has checksums built in, and they aren't limited to ASCII or Microsoft code pages
22:27 sekjal ewww
22:26 atz really checksums were included because the original expected mode of communication was via SERIAL cable
22:26 atz does NCIP do any checksumming at all? I suspect not.
22:25 atz run it w/ an arg like "1" to get verbose debugging output
22:25 atz see this test: https://github.com/atz/SIPServer/blob/master/t/0001_checksum.t
22:25 atz we weren't able to entirely "fix" this in evergreen either
22:24 sekjal atz: does NCIP have the same limitation, do you know?
22:22 atz bascially, their checksum algorithm is useless after we start pushing UTF8
22:22 atz sekjal, this is because 3M didn't define SIP to deal w/ diacritics
22:22 sekjal based it on the solution Evergreen came up with for the same problem
22:21 sekjal my patch just scrubs out any diacritical marks before writing
22:21 sekjal diacritics in a title or other bit of SIP message make checksum calculation all wonky
22:21 sekjal or, at least that's the intent
22:21 sekjal rhcl: it prevents SIP machines from crashing when checking out titles with diacritics
22:20 rhcl sekjal: what does you SIP patch do?
22:10 hudsonbot * Nicole C. Engard: add links to canadian list of marc org codes
22:10 hudsonbot * Nicole C. Engard: update reading history image
22:10 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #58: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/58/
22:03 wizzyrea woohoo!
22:03 sekjal huzzah! finally got the SIP emulator working, and my patch seems to function
22:02 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 5462, Fix variable names so we dont break template::toolkit
22:02 hudsonbot * Ian Walls: Follow up on Bug 5462: fixing variable names breaks messaging preference form
22:02 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 5760 - Add the jquery table sorter to reading record
22:02 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #368: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/368/
21:58 hudsonbot Starting build 58 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:57 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add links to canadian list of marc org codes
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21:44 wizzyrea noes, brooke's gone >.<
21:44 hudsonbot Starting build 8 for job Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:36 hudsonbot Starting build 368 for job Koha_Master (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #366 18 hr ago)
21:36 hudsonbot druthb: thanks a lot! om nom nom. I really like that cookie
21:36 druthb !hudson botsnack cookie
21:36 hudsonbot rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
21:36 rangi !hudson build koha_master now
21:35 rangi it got confused when git died the other day
21:35 rangi hupping it
21:35 bg rangi you scared hudsonbot away
21:34 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #367: ABORTED in 36 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/367/
21:31 hudsonbot Koha_Master(BUILDING: 33 min and counting): last build: 366 (18 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/366/
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21:31 hudsonbot Koha_3.2.x: last build: 99 (2 days 18 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/99/
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21:31 rangi !hudson status
21:29 sekjal hmmm
21:29 wizzyrea instead of a birthdate
21:29 wizzyrea sekjal: I think that EW is expecting an "age"
21:27 rhcl we've just now setup the server and client, everything seems to work except the Koha integration
21:27 rhcl oh yes, completely
21:27 wizzyrea yea, without cake
21:27 nengard Libki was re-written?
21:27 wizzyrea ah
21:26 rhcl we're back to trying the rewritten Libki, hence my query about Kyle
21:21 sekjal is it sending in ISO? or something else?
21:21 sekjal wizzyrea: not yet
21:21 wizzyrea did you have any experience with how that works with envisionware
21:20 wizzyrea regarding how it sends the birthdate
21:20 wizzyrea in your adventures with SIP
21:20 wizzyrea aside from that
21:20 wizzyrea right right (aside, in a few weeks you'll have actual self checks to piddle with :))
21:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3670 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, REOPENED, Why is DUE all caps on enhanced messages
21:19 nengard anyone have any comments or sign offs for bug 3670 ?
21:19 sekjal so I could test my patch for SIP messages with Unicode
21:19 sekjal wizzyrea: I was trying to get the 3M SIP2 Emulator to work
21:18 wizzyrea you were working on envisionware a while back right?
21:18 sekjal wizzyrea: here
21:18 wizzyrea sekjal: about?
21:17 rangi not in ages
21:17 rhcl anybody seen/heard from Kyle Hall recently?
21:17 wahanui rumour has it oleonard is the master UI designer of koha
21:17 wizzyrea oleonard?
21:15 wizzyrea oleonard is the master UI designer of koha
21:14 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot oleonard
21:14 wizzyrea wahanui: forget oleonard
21:12 hdl have a good night
21:11 * oleonard runs home to search for the black bar in OS X
21:11 nengard with a new chrome issues :)
21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5140 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, In Chrome, drop-down menus disappear after using pop-up calendar
21:11 nengard updated bug 5140
21:10 nengard yes
21:10 oleonard It was the fingers-crossed, wasn't it! :)
21:10 nengard signing off now
21:10 nengard HA!
21:10 nengard it works :)
21:10 nengard oopsie
21:09 nengard i screwed up
21:09 wahanui oleonard is temporarily sated.
21:09 nengard oleonard
21:07 oleonard Weird.
21:05 * gmcharlt confirms the black bar that negard is seeing; Chrome on OS X
21:04 nengard might be a mac thing
21:04 nengard i'll attach a screenshot
21:04 nengard also my calendar has an ugly black bar on it
21:04 nengard sorry no luck
21:04 nengard no let me try that
21:04 nengard LOL
21:04 oleonard Did you shift-reload while crossing your fingers? :)
21:02 nengard yes
21:02 oleonard nengard: Did you shift-reload?
21:02 nengard the problem still exists
21:02 nengard oleonard - sorry - it doesn't do anything in chrome on mac
21:01 Brooke_ ski ye later
20:59 cait nengard++ oleonard++ for being amazing :)
20:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5126 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Suggestions module missing from "add notice" form.
20:58 oleonard Thanks. And I'll try to figure out what the status is of Bug 5126
20:57 nengard oleonard i can do that
20:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5770 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, email librarian when purchase suggestion made
20:57 nengard bug 5770 submitted
20:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5140 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, In Chrome, drop-down menus disappear after using pop-up calendar
20:54 oleonard Any Chrome users out there willing to test and sign off on my patch for Bug 5140?
20:46 hdl unfortunately, not yet developped.
20:46 nengard hdl, that email is for holds - are you saying it's also for acq?
20:45 hdl nengard: should be sent EmailLibrarianWhenholdPlaced.
20:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5539 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Options for Suggestion Emails
20:45 oleonard And Bug 5539
20:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5126 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Suggestions module missing from "add notice" form.
20:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5462' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36d64bd18c5695d773c9d956796c605fd7ae25c9> / Follow-up fix for Bug 5462, Fix variable names so we dont break template::toolkit <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=47979599648eee2a55e78005a86422d4a97b1b03>
20:45 oleonard And Bug 5126
20:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5352 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Suggestion messages to patron
20:44 * oleonard finds Bug 5352
20:43 cait only supposing they sent because they got fixed recently
20:43 nengard :)
20:42 cait nengard: to be honest - I have not tested it
20:42 nengard cait so the suggestion emails are sending? (I dont have email turned on on my test server)
20:41 hdl Not for suggestion...
20:41 nengard that I found
20:41 hdl nengard: it is for the HOLD...
20:41 cait I have not tried if they are sent, but there seems to be no switch
20:41 cait and I think the only way to deactivate the suggestions mails is probably deleting the template
20:40 cait hm, I think we have only the email librarian when a hold is placed
20:40 nengard maybe i'm just overlooking it
20:40 nengard i thought so too! but i can't find it anymore
20:39 hdl nengard: iirc, there has been a systempreference for that.
20:38 nengard :)
20:38 nengard or do we and I'm missing it?
20:38 nengard and if we have those why don't we have an email to the librarian that there is a suggestion waiting?
20:37 nengard do those messages actually send?
20:37 nengard i know we have message templates for when a suggestion is approved, rejected, ordered, etc
20:37 nengard i have a managing suggestions question
20:35 Brooke_ cheers
20:31 francharb_away ;)
20:31 francharb_away bye
20:31 francharb_away Brooke_: rangi: everyone: have good day / afternoon / evening !
20:30 francharb_away :)
20:30 francharb_away thanks!
20:30 francharb_away ok, i see
20:29 rangi if you have the item in your hand
20:29 rangi you can order and receive in one go
20:29 Brooke_ it might be an option for added processing or donations
20:29 rangi francharb_away: for receiving things that you bought at a bookstore, or were donations
20:27 francharb_away hey Brooke_: by any chance, do you know what 'actual cost' is meant for (in neworderempty.pl and orderreveice.pl?) i think it's to specified the real cost at receipt but if so, why is it at the order level?
20:25 * Brooke_ steals francharb's _away
20:24 francharb_away ;)
20:24 francharb_away hey hdl: it's been a long time!
20:24 hdl hi francharb_away
20:24 francharb_away ;)
20:24 * francharb_away waves to Brooke_
20:24 hdl hi Brooke
20:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5462' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a37aaf010e3bce1cc28480e97e4f3631ed04cc1> / Follow up on Bug 5462: fixing variable names breaks messaging preference form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2c56dfe62e90c8f3ae6a81b8d511714a54b6d33> / Follow-up fix for Bug 5760 - Add the jquery table sorter to reading record
20:24 * Brooke_ waves to hdl.
20:23 * Brooke_ bows.
20:23 * space_librarian applauds Brooke
20:23 wizzyrea ha ha very funny
20:23 Brooke_ Stephen Fry wrote the code?
20:23 oleonard wizzyrea: Or even better, Koha thinks it's the year 2947!
20:22 wizzyrea mean
20:22 wizzyrea I man
20:22 wizzyrea the age
20:22 wizzyrea ok, does it compute the date from the client or the server?
20:22 space_librarian timey wimey wibbly wobbly stuff?
20:22 oleonard Koha thinks it's 1955?
20:21 wizzyrea can anyone think of a reason why koha would think that a birthdate in 1947 isn't between 18 years and 999 years old?
20:21 space_librarian "best wizard of her generation..."
20:21 Brooke_ Heavy on book larnin' low on spirit
20:21 rangi http://failbook.failblog.org/2011/01/28/funny-facebook-fails-gandalf-or-dumbledore/
20:21 Brooke_ was she though?
20:20 space_librarian Hermione was the better wizard in HP though... And she wears a cape.
20:19 Brooke_ but all Super Librarians wear capes.
20:19 * space_librarian ponders the thought
20:19 Brooke_ not all Space Librarians are Super Librarians
20:18 gmcharlt only if Space Librarians wear capes
20:18 Brooke_ we could name it Space Librarian
20:18 space_librarian true. I realised that as soon as I spoke
20:18 Brooke_ oooooh
20:18 gmcharlt space_librarian: you speak of the proprietary wizards
20:18 space_librarian Voldemort!
20:17 rangi harry is weak!
20:17 Brooke_ Gandalf even
20:17 Brooke_ or Gandald
20:17 rangi pick : special, small public, consortia etc
20:17 Brooke_ only if we name the installer Harry
20:17 rangi a wizard would be good
20:15 Brooke_ if we had an out of the box option for several Library types already done for folks, they could always twiddle later to customise.
20:10 sekjal and Windows 7 is starting to tick me off
20:10 gmcharlt i.e., Koha initial configuration wizard
20:10 gmcharlt for more Q&A/wizard-based setup, maybe add it to administration
20:10 sekjal installing the 3M SIP2 emulator on a virtual machine... so many layers
20:10 gmcharlt I agree that we can afford to ask a few more questions during installation, but I think we should keep it limited so that time-to-running-Koha is not too long
20:09 gmcharlt wizzyrea: libs? yeah? patron categories? maybe just a minimal set to start
20:08 wizzyrea the cat's out of the bag :)
20:08 wizzyrea but
20:08 * wizzyrea sulks a little. Gets over it.
20:08 wizzyrea oh
20:08 oleonard Sorry wizzyrea, just looking at markup (templates)
20:08 wizzyrea * patron categories
20:08 wizzyrea * libraries
20:07 wizzyrea that the installer should prompt you to set up the most important sysprefs at web installer time
20:07 wizzyrea I think
20:07 wizzyrea me me
20:07 wizzyrea OH ME
20:07 oleonard Anyone have any installer pet peeves besides the missing <label>s that were making me mad?
20:06 * oleonard is going over the markup in the installer
20:05 oleonard google returns 1,800 results for the phrase, of course, so the cat's out of the bag
20:05 rangi we should sort that out
20:05 rangi there's no license on that
20:04 rangi hmm
20:03 oleonard At least that's the top Google hit on one of the comments from the js
20:03 oleonard Interesting... Here's where our installer's redirect Javascript came from: http://grizzlyweb.com/webmaster/javascripts/refresh.asp
19:44 oleonard Should we offer a suggestion to the user?
19:42 oleonard What if the information is not correct?
19:42 oleonard Speaking of error messages, the installer says on Step 2, "Please click Next to continue if this information is correct"
19:39 Brooke_ that is why I'm not entrusted with critical error messages
19:39 Brooke_ hhehehe
19:37 oleonard "Enter the &%^$ password you #%$$@, I ain't got all day!"
19:37 * oleonard has never gotten the naughty version of the installer before
19:36 Brooke_ rumour has it the web installer knows if you've been naughty or nice...
19:35 bg wow wizzy all CAPS eh?
19:35 oleonard How does the web installer know what language to use?
19:30 wizzyrea sekjal++
19:30 wizzyrea BLESS YOU SEKJAL
19:28 sekjal anyone know a good SIP client I can I can use to test connect?
19:28 * Brooke_ cheers at sekjal.
19:28 sekjal working on fixing some unicode issues with Koha's SIP
19:25 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIySfQ6Qurs
19:24 rangi and an oldy but a goody
19:24 Brooke_ have to look at that *after* the conference call, methinks
19:21 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAgP1mxOFB8
19:21 rangi its a nice sunny day, so i think this is todays theme song
19:19 Brooke_ :)
19:19 rangi hi Brooke_
19:18 Brooke_ kia ora
19:17 * cait waves to rangi
19:08 rangi Slowly but surely
19:07 oleonard Hi rangi, how's the patch-wrangling going?
19:01 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 15.9�C (11:06 AM PST on February 16, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady).
19:01 bg @wunder 93109
19:00 sekjal morning, rangi
18:59 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on February 17, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising).
18:59 rangi @wunder Wellington nz
18:53 bg morning
18:50 nengard afternoon
18:50 rangi Morning
18:10 cait there are some things on the wiki and the manual, but some details are still a bit hard to figure out
18:04 francharb_away i'm pretty sure we did RFC for those developments...
18:04 francharb_away cait: i'm working for biblibre and we are currently developping something on the acquisition module. the thing is, we've got a library who sponsore the development so we 'kind of' must do what they want but at the same i need to check out if it's working with what already exists...*
18:01 jcamins It seems to.
18:00 jcamins Does OPACAllowHoldDateInFuture work?
17:59 cait not sure there is a way you can use the field in acq
17:59 cait perhaps a post on the mailing list would bring up some more answers from librarians
17:58 francharb_away but if someone can confirm this, it would be great!
17:58 cait cool
17:58 francharb_away yes
17:58 cait hm, the cost that impacts the spent value
17:57 francharb_away and it should be the cost that impact the budgets
17:57 cait :)
17:57 francharb_away too
17:57 francharb_away thats what i think to
17:57 cait francharb_away: my guess is that it should not be on orderempty but only on receive - the price you actually paid for the book
17:57 francharb_away by the way, i got my idea about this actual cost but not sure about it...
17:55 francharb see you
17:55 francharb thanks
17:55 francharb almost 7PM here, i'm need to stop working! :) if someone knows what "actual cost" is meant for (neworderempty.pl and orderreceive.pl) let me know!
17:43 oleonard Just tell 'em to bring water and you're all set.
17:43 jcamins We now have 7 loaves of bread.
17:42 jcamins Good thing we have dinner guests coming on Friday.
17:41 jwagner Huh. Looks like all the Borders stores near me are closing. Sigh.
17:41 wizzyrea like things were together, but in completely strange ways
17:40 wizzyrea jcamins: it was perhaps the the most weirdly laid out book store I've ever been in
17:40 cait hi francharb ;)
17:40 francharb ahah
17:40 francharb hi
17:40 francharb cait:
17:40 francharb hi c
17:40 cait hi all
17:39 francharb someone knows what does "actual cost" refer to? (in neworderempty.pl)
17:38 francharb hi
17:29 druthb_foodz The two borders stores that I go to are *both* closing!
17:27 jcamins wizzyrea: not only did they not use LC, they didn't even use Dewey? :P
17:27 oleonard nengard++
17:27 nengard np
17:27 oleonard Thanks for the signoff nengard
17:26 nengard good reasons! :)
17:25 wizzyrea and the books were more expensive there than any other bookstore in town
17:25 wizzyrea ours was laid out very badly
17:24 jcamins oleonard: Funny how that works, isn't it?
17:24 nengard my borders is better than my B&N
17:24 nengard wizzyrea - why not?
17:22 oleonard Probably because no one knew they were there ;)
17:22 oleonard jcamins: According to the list, NYC has two which are closing
17:22 * oleonard 's nearest Borders is spared
17:21 wizzyrea I never liked our borders
17:21 jcamins Oh, apparently there are a few in NYC.
17:20 jcamins B & N, on the other hand, is ubiquitous.
17:20 jcamins If there are, I've never seen them.
17:20 jcamins nengard: I don't think there are any Borders stores in New York.
17:19 nengard US people - do you like Borders? Well they're closing a bunch of stores! including mine :( http://on.wsj.com/iaMoaR
16:59 jcamins rhcl: yep.
16:59 rhcl yes: chaĭka
16:58 rhcl isn't "chaika" russian for seagull? ...gonna check google
16:51 kf I don't - only running away
16:51 kf lol
16:51 druthb lol
16:51 jcamins *irrevocable?
16:51 jcamins kf: wait! Don't go! Diacritics aren't so dire that you must make this final, irrevokable step.
16:50 kf bye all
16:48 jcamins (well, actually, rhcl is shouting "Ia chaika," but let's not get technical)
16:48 kf diacritics--
16:48 kf umlauts--
16:47 wizzyrea we do get the occasional lost seagull
16:47 wizzyrea bald eagle, probably, we have more of those here.
16:47 * jcamins pictures rhcl running around shouting "I'm a seagull."
16:44 wizzyrea cool beans
16:44 nengard sekjal was writing up a spec - so there is no rfc yet cause he's still talking to people about what they want
16:44 rhcl Ima duck
16:43 wizzyrea a birdie told me that on demand notices might already be in the works
16:43 wizzyrea is there a bug or rfc for this?
16:43 nengard good ideas
16:42 nengard read the log
16:41 wizzyrea even ones that are for print
16:41 wizzyrea or notices, whichever you choose
16:41 wizzyrea in the messaging tab
16:41 wizzyrea well maybe it would be good to have all messages indicated here
16:41 nengard what was the discussion (general topic)? documentation stuff?
16:40 nengard was busy training new koha librarians
16:40 wizzyrea it's logged :)
16:40 rhcl nengard should have been on chat for the last 10 minutes discussion :)
16:39 kf they don't show up at the moment, because it's one line in the message_queue table
16:39 kf wizzyrea: the only problem is print notices
16:39 kf wizzyrea++
16:38 wizzyrea and it would be purty
16:38 kf or a pop up with formatted message
16:38 wizzyrea to see the message you would click print
16:38 kf yep
16:38 wizzyrea and added the print/resend
16:38 wizzyrea we kept the notices format for the list
16:38 kf I also want to see the hold messages and check-out checkin
16:38 wizzyrea what if
16:38 wizzyrea well
16:38 kf and I am not sure both show all messages
16:38 kf :)
16:38 kf wizzyrea: I am all for that, but I am still for combining both tabs and a nicer layout for the message
16:34 wizzyrea why not be able to use it?
16:34 wizzyrea we're obviously keeping the data that was in the notices
16:32 rhcl yea, what she sez
16:31 wizzyrea well a column with 2 options: one to print, one to re-send
16:30 wizzyrea "on demand" would probably be your keyword
16:30 wizzyrea just a column with a link to print/resend
16:30 wizzyrea add a way to print or send those notices again
16:29 wahanui druthb: I forgot actually
16:29 druthb wahanui: forget actually
16:29 wahanui rumour has it actually is since there are more regula updates
16:29 wizzyrea actually
16:29 wizzyrea sekjal you probably already have an idea about this
16:29 sekjal wizzyrea and rhcl: go on
16:27 wizzyrea in the patron detail
16:27 wizzyrea rhcl and I have come up with a compelling reason to keep the notices tab and ditch the messaging tab
16:25 kf I am having trouble with the diacritics
16:25 kf ok, I only thought you might have perhaps had a similar idea beofre
16:25 kf ah
16:25 oleonard kf: No, I actually seldom use guided reports. Usually I write custom report pages for our intranet in PHP
16:24 kf oleonard: have you ever tried mailto: links with a body in reports?
16:23 kf was tracking down one of my coworkers :)
16:23 kf oh sorry
16:22 jcamins rhcl: Wayne Gisslen's Professional Baking.
16:22 rhcl yea, you just want to keep your secret formula :)
16:21 jcamins This is the yeast bread I made with the half of my starter that was due to be discarded.
16:21 jcamins rhcl: my starter hasn't completely gotten going yet.
16:19 hdl nice
16:18 wahanui kf is the kind of person that will brighten everyone's day.
16:18 hdl kf ?
16:18 rhcl there are actually several subtitled versions of "Voluntary but not amateur"
16:18 rhcl "Voluntary but not amateur" = 70 USD @ Amazon for the 2009 paperback edition.
16:16 wahanui kf is the kind of person that will brighten everyone's day.
16:16 oleonard kf?
16:13 oleonard Yes
16:13 kf oleonard: around?
16:12 rhcl send me a start
16:12 wahanui sourdough is my friend!
16:12 rhcl sourdough?
16:11 jcamins It has tripled in size in the last hour.
16:11 * jcamins was just accosted by bread dough when he wandered into the kitchen to heat some water for tea.
14:52 jwagner Right now, you have to actively set it.
14:52 jwagner And maybe, if an item record is created, populate biblioitems.itemtype (i.e., 942c) from that item?
14:52 sekjal for biblios with many, many items, it would be a quick way to set a global default item type for them in a single place
14:52 sekjal It seems to me that Koha should try for items.itype first, then fall back to biblioitems.itemtype if no item-level type is found, then give a warning if that's blank
14:51 jwagner I agree. Those old fragments cause me more grief than almost anything :-(
14:50 oleonard We should chase down those places in the code. Choosing the first itype in the list doesn't sound correct
14:49 jwagner At least, that's my experience.
14:49 jwagner jcamins, if 942c is blank, and there are still places that check that (which there are), they'll use the first itype in your list
14:48 magnuse but anyway, letting individual libraries set it the way they want sounds like a good idea!
14:48 magnuse hm, that functionality seems "dangerous" in a multi lingual catalogue... you want to exclude "the", but then tea is spelled "the" in some language etc
14:48 sekjal academics may want "Journal of" added to that non-sorting list, for example
14:47 oleonard yes, that is what I'm proposing
14:46 sekjal oleonard: if the contents of the system preference was like BorrowersTitles, any set of words in any language could be added
14:46 oleonard sekjal: How might one want to expand it past articles?
14:46 jcamins What would happen if 942c were blank in every record?
14:45 paul_p (once again...)
14:45 paul_p oleonard++
14:45 paul_p I just discover this here thx to you !
14:45 paul_p oleonard, yep, although no-one reported it until now !
14:45 sekjal oleonard: making it pref controlled would allow for more than just articles... full stop-words lists could be configured
14:44 oleonard Doesn't this kind of sorting cause problems for French titles paul_p?
14:44 oleonard (<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="articles" -->)
14:43 oleonard Should we add a system preference for that for other languages?
14:42 oleonard On some pages Koha adds a special parser to the jQuery table sorter to exclude English articles ("the|an|a")
14:16 magnuse yeah
14:01 * oleonard wonders how widely known "Buckeye" candies are http://www.anthony-thomas.com/shop/buckeyes/cat_3.html
14:00 hdl fredericd iirc
13:59 magnuse who can give pootle a cick?
13:59 magnuse hehe
13:59 oleonard Their motto was "We eat all we can and sell the rest"
13:58 magnuse ooh, chocolate...
13:58 * oleonard visited a chocolate factory yesterday
13:54 jcamins druthb: yeah yeah yeah. My mother's "bread machine" would now be termed a mixer, so my confusion is understandable, I think.
13:53 druthb cleverly-named devices.
13:53 jcamins I guess the large ones are just called "mixers."
13:50 jcamins kf: the ones that will bake the bread are limited to 2lbs, but you can get a bread machine that just does the kneading.
13:46 kf the ones I saw around here where rather small
13:46 jcamins kf: it can if you get a mixer that stands on the floor!
13:46 kf I think even a bread machine can not knead 2kg of bread dough
13:46 jwagner I just don't eat that much bread, and a loaf goes stale.
13:46 jcamins jwagner: half the fun is kneading by hand. Also, I live in NYC and even in my beautiful big new kitchen there's no space.
13:45 jcamins What is this world coming to?
13:45 jwagner jcamins, want mine?
13:45 * jcamins shakes his head dolefully.
13:45 jcamins Later this morning I am going to be kneading *by hand*... uhhhh... 2 kilos of bread, and you have bread machines sitting unused.
13:44 druthb hm.... got a hungry for a good easy bread...wonder if I have everything I need for it.
13:44 jcamins Sacrilege!
13:43 * jwagner has a bread machine and doesn't use it
13:40 jcamins druthb: you have a bread machine, and you don't use it?!? Sacrilege!
13:40 druthb mine has a timer. I don't use it very often...hmmm.
13:39 oleonard Oh you bet, that's not even a new feature.
13:37 * jcamins didn't realize they had fancy bread machines that did that.
13:37 jcamins Ooh, I like the idea of a bread machine with a timer!
13:37 paul_p just before leaving to school with childrens, the bread is ready ! (although too hot to be eaten, but it's perfect for lunch/dinner !)
13:36 paul_p before going to bed = put the water & the flour & any specific flavour, program to be finished at 6:30AM. Wake up, get the dough & shape the loaf. Put it into the oven that you've heated just 3mn, got to bathroom, put clothes, shave your beard, wake up childrens, and you can bake the bread, it's ready (set the oven to "hot" ;-) )
13:34 paul_p jcamins, the bread machine is wonderfull to do the knead the dough. And awful to bake. I use it only for knead !
13:32 jcamins paul_p: I go back and forth on whether I want a bread machine or not.
13:13 magnuse awww...
13:12 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 0.4�C (8:15 AM EST on February 16, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1025.6 hPa (Falling).
13:12 druthb @wunder 20852
13:12 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0�C (1:50 PM CET on February 16, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -18.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
13:12 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway
13:00 jcamins magnuse: not yet.
13:00 jcamins It's very exciting. My pseudo-sourdough on Sunday was a great success and I look forward to another pseudo-sourdough today, and in a week or two I'll be able to make real sourdough bread! :)
13:00 magnuse does it (he? she?) have a name?
12:58 jwagner Awwww. How sweet! (or sour?)
12:58 jcamins It's growing up to be big and strong. :)
12:58 jcamins The sourdough says hi.
12:44 magnuse tee hee
12:44 druthb hee hee
12:43 kf lol
12:43 wahanui sourdough is probably my friend!
12:43 druthb wahanui: sourdough?
12:42 * jwagner wonders if wahanui will say hi to the sourdough too
12:41 wahanui hi, gmcharlt
12:41 gmcharlt hdl: bonjour
12:40 hdl hi gmcharlt
12:40 hdl hi gm
12:38 magnuse s/wesite/website/
12:38 magnuse the wesite is really snappy from where i'm sitting now
12:36 nengard website is working, but fetch keeps timing out
12:36 nengard trying again
12:36 nengard hmmm
12:36 druthb looks good from here, nengard
12:35 * druthb likes the hard-boiled realism of Cubs fans like that.
12:35 nengard is git still not working?
12:35 jwagner I'm going to make a bold prediction that the Nats will _not_ finish at the bottom of the National League East this year. I didn't say they'd finish at the top, mind you....
12:35 * druthb heard a Cubs fan once say, "yeah, the Cubs will suck again this year, but that's okay, I'll still go."
12:34 druthb hee hee
12:33 jwagner Hey! Spring training has just started!!! Let us have at least some time to enjoy the prospect of a great season before cold cruel reality sets in....
12:33 druthb Possibly, jwagner, but just like the Nats.... :P
12:32 jwagner druthb, maybe the sourdough just doesn't want to disappoint its fans?
12:32 druthb When the sourdough starter answers back, you'll know it's a little *too* ready.
12:28 magnuse jcamins: say hi to it from us! ;-)
12:27 * jcamins goes to feed his sourdough starter before getting his day completely started.
12:24 druthb hm. hmhmhm..wonder what's goin on there..
12:22 magnuse druthb: works for me, thanks! (but the web interface is slow, it shows the links to the stats and then waits a looong time to display the links to the repos...)
12:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5751 : Follow up patch, removing unused variable and fixing copyright <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51199afbc12eeac014d6175146ab247ba495d5c7> / Bug 5751 : MT2690 fix members-home <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=02154a537e49d0ad56998b19b4a563b162977454> / updating some references from koha.org to koha-community.org <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb
12:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5760 : MT3137 : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=761fa372977c753483c0b3378967d1f60a2bef2a> / Bug 5759 : displaying 2nd email if there is one on print template for borrowers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f9bebf802530ad1a96fe5bb5ced1b8ef02ba46f> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_2170' i
12:19 druthb should be up now!
12:15 nengard :)
12:15 magnuse is it a plane? is it a bird? no, it's.... bywater!
12:15 jcamins Good morning, #koha
12:15 * druthb will kick it...sec.
12:14 * gmcharlt floats the sekjal-druthb-et-al bat signal
12:14 gmcharlt magnuse: indeed. I can't SSH in to the server, so can't do anything myself
12:13 magnuse congrats :-)
12:13 * druthb hasn't won a dern thing from them yet.
12:12 nengard woo hoo : http://www.facebook.com/101ftb/posts/10150100341493234
12:12 magnuse gmcharlt: rangi said "its been up and down over the last day, currently down"
12:12 magnuse hiya nengard
12:11 nengard morning
12:11 magnuse gmcharlt: or rather, what's down... i can't get a response from it...
12:11 druthb mornin, nengard. :)
12:11 liw large irc networks tend to have a lot of people wanting the same names -- I'm lucky that my preferred nick is _usually_ not taken
12:11 * druthb thinks "release early, release often" is a good thing....Except that if Terry Reese puts out *another* MarcEdit bundle this week, I'm gonna have to go after him with a big stick.
12:11 gmcharlt magnuse: what's up?
12:09 magnuse rangi was looking for someone earlier to have a look at Le Git...
12:04 magnuse ;-)
12:03 kf magnuse: we should find that person...
12:03 druthb magnuse++
12:02 magnuse sorry, plain ol' magnus was taken by someone else
12:02 magnuse ooh, thanks
12:02 kf this additional e is irritating me
12:02 kf magnuse++
11:58 druthb magnus++
11:57 magnuse gmcharlt: thanks, i'll weild my powers carefully!
11:49 gmcharlt magnus_lunch: cool, you're now a plain ol' wiki administrator ;)
11:34 * kf agrees
11:33 * druthb thinks magnus is neither plain nor ol'.
11:33 magnus_lunch gmcharlt: plain ol' Magnus
11:16 gmcharlt magnus_lunch: what is your wiki username?
10:30 kf hm the filter on the overdues report are acting strange
09:41 kf thx rangi
09:41 kf ok
09:40 rangi most likely feature freeze end of march string freeze on the 8th of april
09:39 rangi depends how march goes
09:39 rangi yeah, we discussed them, nothing set in stone tho
09:39 kf ok, I thought we had talked about them on one meeting, but can't find my notes
09:39 kf ah
09:39 rangi they arent planned
09:39 kf feature freeze/string freeze?
09:39 rangi planned dates for what?
09:38 kf do we have the planned dates for 3.4 somewhere?
09:15 slef mtj: are you there?
09:12 slef global power distribution #fail :)
09:11 magnuse thanks for trying
09:10 magnuse yup, i better wait for the americans (again with the americans! ;-)
09:10 rangi thd, gmcharlt or nengard can do it
09:10 rangi ahh same with paul
09:09 rangi yep i have admin, but not bureaucrat
09:09 paul_p rangi, & magnuse = I have your user page Magnus, but can't see where I can give you admin perms
09:09 magnuse rangi & paul_p: looks like a Bureaucrat is needed...
09:08 slef paul_p: barriers to entry hinder community growth. By-page moderation would be better.
09:07 paul_p rangi & magnuse = looking to see if I can give you erms
09:06 paul_p we are a small wiki, with most contributors being long-time contributor, so putting some limits to creating pages is OK I think. Or we could add a full moderation = be able to write only after having written somethin on koha-devel or sent a mail to wiki admins.
09:06 rangi slef: i have no idea, im sure there probably is
09:05 rangi magnuse: ahh i cant, but i think paul can
09:05 paul_p slef, very good idea ! (the moderation for wiki permissions)
09:04 slef And is there no way to test wiki pages for spamminess and hold dubious ones (like if ((links-to-other-wiki-pages < 2) and (back-links < 2) and (off-site-links > 0)) then hold for moderation)?
09:02 slef rangi: it is close to the border-line, but I think a small RM sponsorship note would be OK. Possibly newsletter for now, then note the sponsorship if/when you're appointed as 3.6 RM at next IRC general meeting?
09:00 magnuse just Magnus
08:59 rangi ahh i think i can do that, whats your username?
08:57 magnuse btw, where does one apply for admin rights on the wiki? i'd like to help fight spam if i may...
08:55 magnuse lazy americans, asleep when we need them... ;-)
08:50 magnuse ah
08:50 rangi its been up and down over the last day, currently down
08:50 rangi git
08:50 magnuse wassup rangi?
08:41 paul_p bonjour l'europe. Sweet dreams oceania & america !
08:36 rangi hmmm, we need a bywater person or gmcharlt
08:18 kf hi hdl
08:17 magnuse bonjour hdl
08:15 hdl hi all
08:14 kf hi magnuse :)
08:13 magnuse guten morgen kf
08:06 kf good morning #koha
07:32 magnuse kia ora #koha
06:57 francharb hi all
06:36 rangi hi snail
06:18 snail evening all
04:52 * Brooke_ is heading off to level her WoW alt...
04:52 Brooke_ cheers
04:50 space_librarian And now I'm going. For real. Keep on dancing...
04:47 eythian that does seem like an odd restriction
04:46 space_librarian Nope. Men's medium. No go.
04:45 space_librarian I'm tempted. Just for kicks...
04:44 eythian hehe
04:43 Brooke_ clearly it is your solemn duty to represent paper in Jo's name.
04:42 Brooke_ hehehe
04:39 eythian http://rpsbattle.com/aboutrules/ <-- what a curious idea
04:36 * eythian cranks the Devin Townsend in order to keep motivated for the next hour.
04:33 Brooke_ oof not you too
04:32 * wizzyrea_ yawns
04:25 space_librarian yep.
04:25 Brooke_ oof
04:25 eythian 2193 duplicate barcodes. I'm willing to bet that's Liberty vomit.
04:24 eythian I have no doubt.
04:23 Brooke_ surely it is what Mr. Christie intended.
04:23 eythian conveniently, there's already a blinking floor here.
04:22 * wizzyrea_ looks for the heeled shoes
04:22 * space_librarian finds the mirror ball
04:22 wizzyrea_ I wasn't fast enough >.>
04:22 wizzyrea_ oh that's what I was going to say!
04:22 space_librarian true.
04:22 Brooke_ :D
04:21 eythian or the _right_ time?!
04:21 space_librarian I came back at the wrong time...
04:21 eythian Brooke_: yay!
04:21 wizzyrea_ !!
04:21 Brooke_ Excellent, now that all the important types are gone, Robin and I can finally open our tawdry discothèque
04:18 space_librarian and I shall bid you all adieu too...
04:17 Brooke_ bah, sleep is an addiction that can be cured.
04:16 wizzyrea_ later :)
04:16 druthb I'm headed to bed, gang. see you soon.
04:16 eythian or it'll break down
04:16 wizzyrea_ go go
04:16 eythian bus rather
04:15 eythian yeah, you'll miss your train
04:15 * rangi looks at the time
04:15 rangi eek, i better get out of here
04:15 eythian yay :)
04:15 eythian 81531 MARC records done in 1220.90409493446 seconds
04:01 druthb [off] b'zacly!
04:00 rangi [off] still dynix afaict
03:59 rangi [off] yeah i was being mean http://www.scls.info/
03:58 druthb [off] beg to doubt.
03:58 rangi http://scls.typepad.com/link2koha/migration-events.html
03:58 rangi so today is SCLS big day eh?
03:57 * wizzyrea_ waves at brooke
03:57 space_librarian kia ora
03:57 eythian �hola!
03:57 Brooke_ kia ora
03:55 eythian hey, this isn't my problem, per se.
03:55 space_librarian What did I say about tempting Murphy?
03:54 eythian oh bother. They have duplicate barcodes.
03:54 * druthb pokes wahanui
03:54 eythian no, '0 rows affected' when it had just spend a minute deleting 70,000 of them.
03:54 wahanui rumour has it problem is he will even be able to check the item out again if there is a reserve (using selfcheck)
03:54 space_librarian problem?
03:53 eythian you do lie so, mysql.
03:53 eythian Query OK, 0 rows affected (1 min 4.83 sec)
03:50 space_librarian but of course. Nobody else got the memo.
03:50 ibeardslee heh
03:50 rangi we won 2 years ago, its just taking a long time for the others to realise that
03:50 space_librarian lol
03:49 wizzyrea_ yea, don't be like the iraqi information minister
03:49 space_librarian Are we winning?
03:49 ibeardslee depends if you've won the war or not
03:49 wizzyrea_ well, yes, I think so
03:49 eythian I think so, yes
03:49 space_librarian Actually, is it propaganda if it's the truth?
03:47 * space_librarian looks at the koha propaganda she's writing...
03:47 space_librarian but it's so much fun!
03:46 wizzyrea_ you're right, we're bonkers.
03:46 * wizzyrea_ ponders the fact that she has 33 libraries, and at least double that many librarians adding things every day
03:46 * space_librarian crosses fingers
03:46 * eythian prepares to load up the staging server.
03:46 eythian oh hey. I think that run worked.
03:46 druthb :)
03:46 wizzyrea_ i'm going to tell them that they're bonkers tomorrow
03:45 druthb yes, you do, wizzyrea_ . You guys are bonkers, but I loves ya.
03:45 wizzyrea_ though... i'm pretty sure it wasn't my librarians who messed it up >.>
03:45 space_librarian poor, helpless data
03:45 * eythian shakes fist at librarians.
03:45 eythian that is definitely an issue.
03:45 * wizzyrea_ has lots of helpless data
03:45 space_librarian pragmatists!
03:45 druthb I have plenty of idealism about Koha. But not about migrations. It'd be easy 'cept for all these screwy librarians doing nasty things to poor helpless data.
03:44 * druthb chuckles.
03:44 wizzyrea_ ^^
03:44 rangi without idealism koha wouldnt exist :)
03:43 druthb no, just been in the biz too long for idealism.
03:43 eythian cynic.
03:43 wizzyrea_ realist?
03:43 eythian you people are such pessimists.
03:43 wizzyrea_ ^^ does the same (not with migrations per se, with most of her projects)
03:42 druthb I usually plan for all of my migrations to be near-disasters. That way I can be happy when they are not.
03:42 wizzyrea_ we try not to feed murphy here
03:42 space_librarian you're tempting Murphy again.
03:41 * eythian kicks off a migration script, all going well this'll be perfect and I can relax.
03:40 space_librarian damn. That's a cleric not to be messed with.
03:40 wizzyrea_ lol
03:39 eythian http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1240899_99060101339_SMLibrarianstaffandbookmain_445x319.jpg <-- you can tell because of the book
03:37 wizzyrea_ pic or it didn't happen ;)
03:37 space_librarian oi!
03:37 wizzyrea_ O.O lol
03:37 ibeardslee you've seen the staff photo too?
03:37 * wizzyrea_ imagines a mashup of carl sagan and marian the librarian, giggles
03:36 space_librarian :)
03:36 space_librarian yes, and still surviving...
03:36 wizzyrea_ oh nice! lucky duck :)
03:36 rangi wizzyrea_: space_librarian is a new hire at catalyst .. second week eh space_librarian ?
03:35 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: Bug 5760 : MT3137 : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support for readingrec.pl
03:35 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: Bug 5759 : displaying 2nd email if there is one on print template for borrowers
03:35 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #366: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/366/
03:35 wizzyrea_ hehe nice druthb
03:35 wizzyrea_ hi thar, I'm liz from NEKLS... this server change has gotten me all confusticated as to who's who
03:35 druthb had dinner with one of my favorite Koha people...never ever dull...
03:34 druthb doin good!
03:34 * space_librarian gives thumbs up
03:34 wizzyrea_ how is everybody this evening
03:34 wizzyrea_ heya
03:34 * druthb waves to wizzyrea_
03:15 rangi good plan
03:15 * ibeardslee makes a note in his diary to flick an email to all academy people asking how they are going .. beginning of Marcg
03:13 rangi nope
03:12 ibeardslee rangi: have you heard much more from John about carrying on his work?
03:12 hudsonbot Starting build 366 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5760 : MT3137 : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=761fa372977c753483c0b3378967d1f60a2bef2a>
01:42 mtj cool, thanx you!
01:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5759 : displaying 2nd email if there is one on print template for borrowers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f9bebf802530ad1a96fe5bb5ced1b8ef02ba46f>
01:42 sekjal mtj: I'll get right on that
01:41 mtj could you fix everyone's edit permissions on koha.org while you're at it? ;)
01:40 mtj sekjal++
01:40 mtj cool, me too
01:39 sekjal okay, looks like it's back up; I got a successful pull
01:13 sekjal the gitweb renders fine
01:13 sekjal I think the git daemon could be down
01:13 mtj origin git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git
01:12 mtj mason@fugu:~/g/head$ git remote -v
01:12 mtj a network/firewall issue server side?
01:11 mtj borked for me too
01:11 mtj fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused)
01:11 mtj git.koha-community.org[0: 174.143.233.17]: errno=Connection refused
01:11 mtj mason@fugu:~/g/head$ git fetch
01:10 sekjal can't seem to pull from git.koha-community.org