Time  Nick              Message
23:30 Brooke_           kia ora
23:28 huginn            bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 15.7�C (3:33 PM PST on February 16, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady).
23:28 bg                @wunder 93109
23:05 hudsonbot         Magnus Enger: Bug 2742 Followup patch fixing Norwegian bokm?l, adding nynorsk
23:04 hudsonbot         Project Koha_Master build #369: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/369/
22:56 bg                just testing to see if atz has a keyword alert for SIP :)
22:56 bg                SIP
22:44 sekjal            time for me to call it a night
22:44 sekjal            rhcl:  thought it was already a standard in use... like Z39.50 for unicode.... obviously I was reading too much into the vague Google results
22:42 rhcl              guess it's time to go grab a cup of coffee...
22:42 rhcl              z39.60 is a new standard I'm proposing to replace SIP
22:42 hudsonbot         Starting build 369 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:41 rhcl              ah, I'm disappointed. Thought somebody would query the .60, but I guess I was too subtle.
22:40 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_2742' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b1b6b8315dcc0d4aba9dbd5d75ca868e8bc9bdc> / Bug 2742 Followup patch fixing Norwegian bokmål, adding nynorsk <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d82c493f76b609df48478219e75d901df80b055>
22:40 sekjal            good for getting bibliographic info, but not patron or circulation data
22:38 rhcl              I was thinking Z39.60
22:37 sekjal            rhcl:  for specific ILS systems, it's probably better to use whatever API they may have.  but SIP/NCIP are standards (more or less) that work well enough for a large enough number of systems
22:35 rhcl              so conceptually is there some better way than SIP/NCIP to query a remote db? Kyle must be doing something different with Libki.
22:27 atz               modern network communication (TCPIP) already has checksums built in, and they aren't limited to ASCII or Microsoft code pages
22:27 sekjal            ewww
22:26 atz               really checksums were included because the original expected mode of communication was via SERIAL cable
22:26 atz               does NCIP do any checksumming at all?  I suspect not.
22:25 atz               run it w/ an arg like "1" to get verbose debugging output
22:25 atz               see this test: https://github.com/atz/SIPServer/blob/master/t/0001_checksum.t
22:25 atz               we weren't able to entirely "fix" this in evergreen either
22:24 sekjal            atz:  does NCIP have the same limitation, do you know?
22:22 atz               bascially, their checksum algorithm is useless after we start pushing UTF8
22:22 atz               sekjal, this is because 3M didn't define SIP to deal w/ diacritics
22:22 sekjal            based it on the solution Evergreen came up with for the same problem
22:21 sekjal            my patch just scrubs out any diacritical marks before writing
22:21 sekjal            diacritics in a title or other bit of SIP message make checksum calculation all wonky
22:21 sekjal            or, at least that's the intent
22:21 sekjal            rhcl:  it prevents SIP machines from crashing when checking out titles with diacritics
22:20 rhcl              sekjal: what does you SIP patch do?
22:10 hudsonbot         * Nicole C. Engard: add links to canadian list of marc org codes
22:10 hudsonbot         * Nicole C. Engard: update reading history image
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22:03 wizzyrea          woohoo!
22:03 sekjal            huzzah!  finally got the SIP emulator working, and my patch seems to function
22:02 hudsonbot         * Owen Leonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 5462, Fix variable names so we dont break template::toolkit
22:02 hudsonbot         * Ian Walls: Follow up on Bug 5462: fixing variable names breaks messaging preference form
22:02 hudsonbot         * Owen Leonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 5760 - Add the jquery table sorter to reading record
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21:57 hudsonbot         Nicole C. Engard: add links to canadian list of marc org codes
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21:44 wizzyrea          noes, brooke's gone >.<
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21:36 hudsonbot         druthb: thanks a lot! om nom nom. I really like that cookie
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21:36 rangi             !hudson build koha_master now
21:35 rangi             it got confused when git died the other day
21:35 rangi             hupping it
21:35 bg                rangi you scared hudsonbot away
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21:31 hudsonbot         Koha_Master(BUILDING: 33 min and counting): last build: 366 (18 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/366/
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21:29 sekjal            hmmm
21:29 wizzyrea          instead of a birthdate
21:29 wizzyrea          sekjal: I think that EW is expecting an "age"
21:27 rhcl              we've just now setup the server and client, everything seems to work except the Koha integration
21:27 rhcl              oh yes, completely
21:27 wizzyrea          yea, without cake
21:27 nengard           Libki was re-written?
21:27 wizzyrea          ah
21:26 rhcl              we're back to trying the rewritten Libki, hence my query about Kyle
21:21 sekjal            is it sending in ISO?  or something else?
21:21 sekjal            wizzyrea:  not yet
21:21 wizzyrea          did you have any experience with how that works with envisionware
21:20 wizzyrea          regarding how it sends the birthdate
21:20 wizzyrea          in your adventures with SIP
21:20 wizzyrea          aside from that
21:20 wizzyrea          right right (aside, in a few weeks you'll have actual self checks to piddle with :))
21:20 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3670 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, REOPENED, Why is DUE all caps on enhanced messages
21:19 nengard           anyone have any comments or sign offs for bug 3670 ?
21:19 sekjal            so I could test my patch for SIP messages with Unicode
21:19 sekjal            wizzyrea:  I was trying to get the 3M SIP2 Emulator to work
21:18 wizzyrea          you were working on envisionware a while back right?
21:18 sekjal            wizzyrea:  here
21:18 wizzyrea          sekjal: about?
21:17 rangi             not in ages
21:17 rhcl              anybody seen/heard from Kyle Hall recently?
21:17 wahanui           rumour has it oleonard is the master UI designer of koha
21:17 wizzyrea          oleonard?
21:15 wizzyrea          oleonard is the master UI designer of koha
21:14 wahanui           wizzyrea: I forgot oleonard
21:14 wizzyrea          wahanui: forget oleonard
21:12 hdl               have a good night
21:11 * oleonard        runs home to search for the black bar in OS X
21:11 nengard           with a new chrome issues :)
21:11 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5140 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, In Chrome, drop-down menus disappear after using pop-up calendar
21:11 nengard           updated bug 5140
21:10 nengard           yes
21:10 oleonard          It was the fingers-crossed, wasn't it! :)
21:10 nengard           signing off now
21:10 nengard           HA!
21:10 nengard           it works :)
21:10 nengard           oopsie
21:09 nengard           i screwed up
21:09 wahanui           oleonard is temporarily sated.
21:09 nengard           oleonard
21:07 oleonard          Weird.
21:05 * gmcharlt        confirms the black bar that negard is seeing; Chrome on OS X
21:04 nengard           might be a mac thing
21:04 nengard           i'll attach a screenshot
21:04 nengard           also my calendar has an ugly black bar on it
21:04 nengard           sorry no luck
21:04 nengard           no let me try that
21:04 nengard           LOL
21:04 oleonard          Did you shift-reload while crossing your fingers? :)
21:02 nengard           yes
21:02 oleonard          nengard: Did you shift-reload?
21:02 nengard           the problem still exists
21:02 nengard           oleonard - sorry - it doesn't do anything in chrome on mac
21:01 Brooke_           ski ye later
20:59 cait              nengard++ oleonard++ for being amazing :)
20:58 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5126 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Suggestions module missing from "add notice" form.
20:58 oleonard          Thanks. And I'll try to figure out what the status is of Bug 5126
20:57 nengard           oleonard i can do that
20:57 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5770 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, email librarian when purchase suggestion made
20:57 nengard           bug 5770 submitted
20:54 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5140 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, In Chrome, drop-down menus disappear after using pop-up calendar
20:54 oleonard          Any Chrome users out there willing to test and sign off on my patch for Bug 5140?
20:46 hdl               unfortunately, not yet developped.
20:46 nengard           hdl, that email is for holds - are you saying it's also for acq?
20:45 hdl               nengard: should be sent EmailLibrarianWhenholdPlaced.
20:45 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5539 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Options for Suggestion Emails
20:45 oleonard          And Bug 5539
20:45 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5126 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Suggestions module missing from "add notice" form.
20:45 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5462' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36d64bd18c5695d773c9d956796c605fd7ae25c9> / Follow-up fix for Bug 5462, Fix variable names so we dont break template::toolkit <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=47979599648eee2a55e78005a86422d4a97b1b03>
20:45 oleonard          And Bug 5126
20:44 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5352 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Suggestion messages to patron
20:44 * oleonard        finds Bug 5352
20:43 cait              only supposing they sent because they got fixed recently
20:43 nengard           :)
20:42 cait              nengard: to be honest - I have not tested it
20:42 nengard           cait so the suggestion emails are sending? (I dont have email turned on on my test server)
20:41 hdl               Not for suggestion...
20:41 nengard           that I found
20:41 hdl               nengard: it is for the HOLD...
20:41 cait              I have not tried if they are sent, but there seems to be no switch
20:41 cait              and I think the only way to deactivate the suggestions mails is probably deleting the template
20:40 cait              hm, I think we have only the email librarian when a hold is placed
20:40 nengard           maybe i'm just overlooking it
20:40 nengard           i thought so too! but i can't find it anymore
20:39 hdl               nengard: iirc, there has been a systempreference for that.
20:38 nengard           :)
20:38 nengard           or do we and I'm missing it?
20:38 nengard           and if we have those why don't we have an email to the librarian that there is a suggestion waiting?
20:37 nengard           do those messages actually send?
20:37 nengard           i know we have message templates for when a suggestion is approved, rejected, ordered, etc
20:37 nengard           i have a managing suggestions question
20:35 Brooke_           cheers
20:31 francharb_away    ;)
20:31 francharb_away    bye
20:31 francharb_away    Brooke_: rangi: everyone: have good day / afternoon / evening !
20:30 francharb_away    :)
20:30 francharb_away    thanks!
20:30 francharb_away    ok, i see
20:29 rangi             if you have the item in your hand
20:29 rangi             you can order and receive in one go
20:29 Brooke_           it might be an option for added processing or donations
20:29 rangi             francharb_away: for receiving things that you bought at a bookstore, or were donations
20:27 francharb_away    hey Brooke_: by any chance, do you know what 'actual cost' is meant for (in neworderempty.pl and orderreveice.pl?) i think it's to specified the real cost at receipt but if so, why is it at the order level?
20:25 * Brooke_         steals francharb's _away
20:24 francharb_away    ;)
20:24 francharb_away    hey hdl: it's been a long time!
20:24 hdl               hi francharb_away
20:24 francharb_away    ;)
20:24 * francharb_away  waves to Brooke_
20:24 hdl               hi Brooke
20:24 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5462' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a37aaf010e3bce1cc28480e97e4f3631ed04cc1> / Follow up on Bug 5462: fixing variable names breaks messaging preference form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2c56dfe62e90c8f3ae6a81b8d511714a54b6d33> / Follow-up fix for Bug 5760 - Add the jquery table sorter to reading record
20:24 * Brooke_         waves to hdl.
20:23 * Brooke_         bows.
20:23 * space_librarian applauds Brooke
20:23 wizzyrea          ha ha very funny
20:23 Brooke_           Stephen Fry wrote the code?
20:23 oleonard          wizzyrea: Or even better, Koha thinks it's the year 2947!
20:22 wizzyrea          mean
20:22 wizzyrea          I man
20:22 wizzyrea          the age
20:22 wizzyrea          ok, does it compute the date from the client or the server?
20:22 space_librarian   timey wimey wibbly wobbly stuff?
20:22 oleonard          Koha thinks it's 1955?
20:21 wizzyrea          can anyone think of a reason why koha would think that a birthdate in 1947 isn't between 18 years and 999 years old?
20:21 space_librarian   "best wizard of her generation..."
20:21 Brooke_           Heavy on book larnin' low on spirit
20:21 rangi             http://failbook.failblog.org/2011/01/28/funny-facebook-fails-gandalf-or-dumbledore/
20:21 Brooke_           was she though?
20:20 space_librarian   Hermione was the better wizard in HP though... And she wears a cape.
20:19 Brooke_           but all Super Librarians wear capes.
20:19 * space_librarian ponders the thought
20:19 Brooke_           not all Space Librarians are Super Librarians
20:18 gmcharlt          only if Space Librarians wear capes
20:18 Brooke_           we could name it Space Librarian
20:18 space_librarian   true. I realised that as soon as I spoke
20:18 Brooke_           oooooh
20:18 gmcharlt          space_librarian: you speak of the proprietary wizards
20:18 space_librarian   Voldemort!
20:17 rangi             harry is weak!
20:17 Brooke_           Gandalf even
20:17 Brooke_           or Gandald
20:17 rangi             pick : special, small public, consortia etc
20:17 Brooke_           only if we name the installer Harry
20:17 rangi             a wizard would be good
20:15 Brooke_           if we had an out of the box option for several Library types already done for folks, they could always twiddle later to customise.
20:10 sekjal            and Windows 7 is starting to tick me off
20:10 gmcharlt          i.e., Koha initial configuration wizard
20:10 gmcharlt          for more Q&A/wizard-based setup, maybe add it to administration
20:10 sekjal            installing the 3M SIP2 emulator on a virtual machine... so many layers
20:10 gmcharlt          I agree that we can afford to ask a few more questions during installation, but I think we should keep it limited so that time-to-running-Koha is not too long
20:09 gmcharlt          wizzyrea: libs?  yeah?  patron categories?  maybe just a minimal set to start
20:08 wizzyrea          the cat's out of the bag :)
20:08 wizzyrea          but
20:08 * wizzyrea        sulks a little. Gets over it.
20:08 wizzyrea          oh
20:08 oleonard          Sorry wizzyrea, just looking at markup (templates)
20:08 wizzyrea          * patron categories
20:08 wizzyrea          * libraries
20:07 wizzyrea          that the installer should prompt you to set up the most important sysprefs at web installer time
20:07 wizzyrea          I think
20:07 wizzyrea          me me
20:07 wizzyrea          OH ME
20:07 oleonard          Anyone have any installer pet peeves besides the missing <label>s that were making me mad?
20:06 * oleonard        is going over the markup in the installer
20:05 oleonard          google returns 1,800 results for the phrase, of course, so the cat's out of the bag
20:05 rangi             we should sort that out
20:05 rangi             there's no license on that
20:04 rangi             hmm
20:03 oleonard          At least that's the top Google hit on one of the comments from the js
20:03 oleonard          Interesting... Here's where our installer's redirect Javascript came from: http://grizzlyweb.com/webmaster/javascripts/refresh.asp
19:44 oleonard          Should we offer a suggestion to the user?
19:42 oleonard          What if the information is not correct?
19:42 oleonard          Speaking of error messages, the installer says on Step 2, "Please click Next to continue if this information is correct"
19:39 Brooke_           that is why I'm not entrusted with critical error messages
19:39 Brooke_           hhehehe
19:37 oleonard          "Enter the &%^$ password you #%$$@, I ain't got all day!"
19:37 * oleonard        has never gotten the naughty version of the installer before
19:36 Brooke_           rumour has it the web installer knows if you've been naughty or nice...
19:35 bg                wow wizzy all CAPS eh?
19:35 oleonard          How does the web installer know what language to use?
19:30 wizzyrea          sekjal++
19:30 wizzyrea          BLESS YOU SEKJAL
19:28 sekjal            anyone know a good SIP client I can I can use to test connect?
19:28 * Brooke_         cheers at sekjal.
19:28 sekjal            working on fixing some unicode issues with Koha's SIP
19:25 rangi             http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIySfQ6Qurs
19:24 rangi             and an oldy but a goody
19:24 Brooke_           have to look at that *after* the conference call, methinks
19:21 rangi             http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAgP1mxOFB8
19:21 rangi             its a nice sunny day, so i think this is todays theme song
19:19 Brooke_           :)
19:19 rangi             hi Brooke_
19:18 Brooke_           kia ora
19:17 * cait            waves to rangi
19:08 rangi             Slowly but surely
19:07 oleonard          Hi rangi, how's the patch-wrangling going?
19:01 huginn            bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 15.9�C (11:06 AM PST on February 16, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady).
19:01 bg                @wunder 93109
19:00 sekjal            morning, rangi
18:59 huginn            rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on February 17, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising).
18:59 rangi             @wunder Wellington nz
18:53 bg                morning
18:50 nengard           afternoon
18:50 rangi             Morning
18:10 cait              there are some things on the wiki and the manual, but some details are still a bit hard to figure out
18:04 francharb_away    i'm pretty sure we did RFC for those developments...
18:04 francharb_away    cait: i'm working for biblibre and we are currently developping something on the acquisition module. the thing is, we've got a library who sponsore the development so we 'kind of' must do what they want but at the same i need to check out if it's working with what already exists...*
18:01 jcamins           It seems to.
18:00 jcamins           Does OPACAllowHoldDateInFuture work?
17:59 cait              not sure there is a way you can use the field in acq
17:59 cait              perhaps a post on the mailing list would bring up some more answers from librarians
17:58 francharb_away    but if someone can confirm this, it would be great!
17:58 cait              cool
17:58 francharb_away    yes
17:58 cait              hm, the cost that impacts the spent value
17:57 francharb_away    and it should be the cost that impact the budgets
17:57 cait              :)
17:57 francharb_away    too
17:57 francharb_away    thats what i think to
17:57 cait              francharb_away: my guess is that it should not be on orderempty but only on receive - the price you actually paid for the book
17:57 francharb_away    by the way, i got my idea about this actual cost but not sure about it...
17:55 francharb         see you
17:55 francharb         thanks
17:55 francharb         almost 7PM here, i'm need to stop working! :) if someone knows what "actual cost" is meant for (neworderempty.pl and orderreceive.pl) let me know!
17:43 oleonard          Just tell 'em to bring water and you're all set.
17:43 jcamins           We now have 7 loaves of bread.
17:42 jcamins           Good thing we have dinner guests coming on Friday.
17:41 jwagner           Huh.  Looks like all the Borders stores near me are closing. Sigh.
17:41 wizzyrea          like things were together, but in completely strange ways
17:40 wizzyrea          jcamins: it was perhaps the the most weirdly laid out book store I've ever been in
17:40 cait              hi francharb ;)
17:40 francharb         ahah
17:40 francharb         hi
17:40 francharb         cait:
17:40 francharb         hi c
17:40 cait              hi all
17:39 francharb         someone knows what does "actual cost" refer to? (in neworderempty.pl)
17:38 francharb         hi
17:29 druthb_foodz      The two borders stores that I go to are *both* closing!
17:27 jcamins           wizzyrea: not only did they not use LC, they didn't even use Dewey? :P
17:27 oleonard          nengard++
17:27 nengard           np
17:27 oleonard          Thanks for the signoff nengard
17:26 nengard           good reasons! :)
17:25 wizzyrea          and the books were more expensive there than any other bookstore in town
17:25 wizzyrea          ours was laid out very badly
17:24 jcamins           oleonard: Funny how that works, isn't it?
17:24 nengard           my borders is better than my B&N
17:24 nengard           wizzyrea - why not?
17:22 oleonard          Probably because no one knew they were there ;)
17:22 oleonard          jcamins: According to the list, NYC has two which are closing
17:22 * oleonard        's nearest Borders is spared
17:21 wizzyrea          I never liked our borders
17:21 jcamins           Oh, apparently there are a few in NYC.
17:20 jcamins           B & N, on the other hand, is ubiquitous.
17:20 jcamins           If there are, I've never seen them.
17:20 jcamins           nengard: I don't think there are any Borders stores in New York.
17:19 nengard           US people - do you like Borders? Well they're closing a bunch of stores! including mine :( http://on.wsj.com/iaMoaR
16:59 jcamins           rhcl: yep.
16:59 rhcl              yes: chaĭka
16:58 rhcl              isn't "chaika" russian for seagull? ...gonna check google
16:51 kf                I don't - only running away
16:51 kf                lol
16:51 druthb            lol
16:51 jcamins           *irrevocable?
16:51 jcamins           kf: wait! Don't go! Diacritics aren't so dire that you must make this final, irrevokable step.
16:50 kf                bye all
16:48 jcamins           (well, actually, rhcl is shouting "Ia chaika," but let's not get technical)
16:48 kf                diacritics--
16:48 kf                umlauts--
16:47 wizzyrea          we do get the occasional lost seagull
16:47 wizzyrea          bald eagle, probably, we have more of those here.
16:47 * jcamins         pictures rhcl running around shouting "I'm a seagull."
16:44 wizzyrea          cool beans
16:44 nengard           sekjal was writing up a spec - so there is no rfc yet cause he's still talking to people about what they want
16:44 rhcl              Ima duck
16:43 wizzyrea          a birdie told me that on demand notices might already be in the works
16:43 wizzyrea          is there a bug or rfc for this?
16:43 nengard           good ideas
16:42 nengard           read the log
16:41 wizzyrea          even ones that are for print
16:41 wizzyrea          or notices, whichever you choose
16:41 wizzyrea          in the messaging tab
16:41 wizzyrea          well maybe it would be good to have all messages indicated here
16:41 nengard           what was the discussion (general topic)? documentation stuff?
16:40 nengard           was busy training new koha librarians
16:40 wizzyrea          it's logged :)
16:40 rhcl              nengard should have been on chat for the last 10 minutes discussion :)
16:39 kf                they don't show up at the moment, because it's one line in the message_queue table
16:39 kf                wizzyrea: the only problem is print notices
16:39 kf                wizzyrea++
16:38 wizzyrea          and it would be purty
16:38 kf                or a pop up with formatted message
16:38 wizzyrea          to see the message you would click print
16:38 kf                yep
16:38 wizzyrea          and added the print/resend
16:38 wizzyrea          we kept the notices format for the list
16:38 kf                I also want to see the hold messages and check-out checkin
16:38 wizzyrea          what if
16:38 wizzyrea          well
16:38 kf                and I am not sure both show all messages
16:38 kf                :)
16:38 kf                wizzyrea: I am all for that, but I am still for combining both tabs and a nicer layout for the message
16:34 wizzyrea          why not be able to use it?
16:34 wizzyrea          we're obviously keeping the data that was in the notices
16:32 rhcl              yea, what she sez
16:31 wizzyrea          well a column with 2 options: one to print, one to re-send
16:30 wizzyrea          "on demand" would probably be your keyword
16:30 wizzyrea          just a column with a link to print/resend
16:30 wizzyrea          add a way to print or send those notices again
16:29 wahanui           druthb: I forgot actually
16:29 druthb            wahanui: forget actually
16:29 wahanui           rumour has it actually is since there are more regula updates
16:29 wizzyrea          actually
16:29 wizzyrea          sekjal you probably already have an idea about this
16:29 sekjal            wizzyrea and rhcl:  go on
16:27 wizzyrea          in the patron detail
16:27 wizzyrea          rhcl and I have come up with a compelling reason to keep the notices tab and ditch the messaging tab
16:25 kf                I am having trouble with the diacritics
16:25 kf                ok, I only thought you might have perhaps had a similar idea beofre
16:25 kf                ah
16:25 oleonard          kf: No, I actually seldom use guided reports. Usually I write custom report pages for our intranet in PHP
16:24 kf                oleonard: have you ever tried mailto: links with a body in reports?
16:23 kf                was tracking down one of my coworkers :)
16:23 kf                oh sorry
16:22 jcamins           rhcl: Wayne Gisslen's Professional Baking.
16:22 rhcl              yea, you just want to keep your secret formula   :)
16:21 jcamins           This is the yeast bread I made with the half of my starter that was due to be discarded.
16:21 jcamins           rhcl: my starter hasn't completely gotten going yet.
16:19 hdl               nice
16:18 wahanui           kf is the kind of person that will brighten everyone's day.
16:18 hdl               kf ?
16:18 rhcl              there are actually several subtitled versions of "Voluntary but not amateur"
16:18 rhcl              "Voluntary but not amateur" = 70 USD @ Amazon for the 2009 paperback edition.
16:16 wahanui           kf is the kind of person that will brighten everyone's day.
16:16 oleonard          kf?
16:13 oleonard          Yes
16:13 kf                oleonard: around?
16:12 rhcl              send me a start
16:12 wahanui           sourdough is my friend!
16:12 rhcl              sourdough?
16:11 jcamins           It has tripled in size in the last hour.
16:11 * jcamins         was just accosted by bread dough when he wandered into the kitchen to heat some water for tea.
14:52 jwagner           Right now, you have to actively set it.
14:52 jwagner           And maybe, if an item record is created, populate biblioitems.itemtype (i.e., 942c) from that item?
14:52 sekjal            for biblios with many, many items, it would be a quick way to set a global default item type for them in a single place
14:52 sekjal            It seems to me that Koha should try for items.itype first, then fall back to biblioitems.itemtype if no item-level type is found, then give a warning if that's blank
14:51 jwagner           I agree.  Those old fragments cause me more grief than almost anything :-(
14:50 oleonard          We should chase down those places in the code. Choosing the first itype in the list doesn't sound correct
14:49 jwagner           At least, that's my experience.
14:49 jwagner           jcamins, if 942c is blank, and there are still places that check that (which there are), they'll use the first itype in your list
14:48 magnuse           but anyway, letting individual libraries set it the way they want sounds like a good idea!
14:48 magnuse           hm, that functionality seems "dangerous" in a multi lingual catalogue... you want to exclude "the", but then tea is spelled "the" in some language etc
14:48 sekjal            academics may want "Journal of" added to that non-sorting list, for example
14:47 oleonard          yes, that is what I'm proposing
14:46 sekjal            oleonard: if the contents of the system preference was like BorrowersTitles, any set of words in any language could be added
14:46 oleonard          sekjal: How might one want to expand it past articles?
14:46 jcamins           What would happen if 942c were blank in every record?
14:45 paul_p            (once again...)
14:45 paul_p            oleonard++
14:45 paul_p            I just discover this here thx to you !
14:45 paul_p            oleonard, yep, although no-one reported it until now !
14:45 sekjal            oleonard: making it pref controlled would allow for more than just articles... full stop-words lists could be configured
14:44 oleonard          Doesn't this kind of sorting cause problems for French titles paul_p?
14:44 oleonard          (<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="articles" -->)
14:43 oleonard          Should we add a system preference for that for other languages?
14:42 oleonard          On some pages Koha adds a special parser to the jQuery table sorter to exclude English articles ("the|an|a")
14:16 magnuse           yeah
14:01 * oleonard        wonders how widely known "Buckeye" candies are http://www.anthony-thomas.com/shop/buckeyes/cat_3.html
14:00 hdl               fredericd iirc
13:59 magnuse           who can give pootle a cick?
13:59 magnuse           hehe
13:59 oleonard          Their motto was "We eat all we can and sell the rest"
13:58 magnuse           ooh, chocolate...
13:58 * oleonard        visited a chocolate factory yesterday
13:54 jcamins           druthb: yeah yeah yeah. My mother's "bread machine" would now be termed a mixer, so my confusion is understandable, I think.
13:53 druthb            cleverly-named devices.
13:53 jcamins           I guess the large ones are just called "mixers."
13:50 jcamins           kf: the ones that will bake the bread are limited to 2lbs, but you can get a bread machine that just does the kneading.
13:46 kf                the ones I saw around here where rather small
13:46 jcamins           kf: it can if you get a mixer that stands on the floor!
13:46 kf                I think even a bread machine can not knead 2kg of bread dough
13:46 jwagner           I just don't eat that much bread, and a loaf goes stale.
13:46 jcamins           jwagner: half the fun is kneading by hand. Also, I live in NYC and even in my beautiful big new kitchen there's no space.
13:45 jcamins           What is this world coming to?
13:45 jwagner           jcamins, want mine?
13:45 * jcamins         shakes his head dolefully.
13:45 jcamins           Later this morning I am going to be kneading *by hand*... uhhhh... 2 kilos of bread, and you have bread machines sitting unused.
13:44 druthb            hm....   got a hungry for a good easy bread...wonder if I have everything I need for it.
13:44 jcamins           Sacrilege!
13:43 * jwagner         has a bread machine and doesn't use it
13:40 jcamins           druthb: you have a bread machine, and you don't use it?!? Sacrilege!
13:40 druthb            mine has a timer.  I don't use it very often...hmmm.
13:39 oleonard          Oh you bet, that's not even a new feature.
13:37 * jcamins         didn't realize they had fancy bread machines that did that.
13:37 jcamins           Ooh, I like the idea of a bread machine with a timer!
13:37 paul_p            just before leaving to school with childrens, the bread is ready ! (although too hot to be eaten, but it's perfect for lunch/dinner !)
13:36 paul_p            before going to bed = put the water & the flour & any specific flavour, program to be finished at 6:30AM. Wake up, get the dough & shape the loaf. Put it into the oven that you've heated just 3mn, got to bathroom, put clothes, shave your beard, wake up childrens, and you can bake the bread, it's ready (set the oven to "hot" ;-) )
13:34 paul_p            jcamins, the bread machine is wonderfull to do the knead the dough. And awful to bake. I use it only for knead !
13:32 jcamins           paul_p: I go back and forth on whether I want a bread machine or not.
13:13 magnuse           awww...
13:12 huginn            druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 0.4�C (8:15 AM EST on February 16, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1025.6 hPa (Falling).
13:12 druthb            @wunder 20852
13:12 huginn            magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0�C (1:50 PM CET on February 16, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -18.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
13:12 magnuse           @wunder bodo, norway
13:00 jcamins           magnuse: not yet.
13:00 jcamins           It's very exciting. My pseudo-sourdough on Sunday was a great success and I look forward to another pseudo-sourdough today, and in a week or two I'll be able to make real sourdough bread! :)
13:00 magnuse           does it (he? she?) have a name?
12:58 jwagner           Awwww.  How sweet! (or sour?)
12:58 jcamins           It's growing up to be big and strong. :)
12:58 jcamins           The sourdough says hi.
12:44 magnuse           tee hee
12:44 druthb            hee hee
12:43 kf                lol
12:43 wahanui           sourdough is probably my friend!
12:43 druthb            wahanui:  sourdough?
12:42 * jwagner         wonders if wahanui will say hi to the sourdough too
12:41 wahanui           hi, gmcharlt
12:41 gmcharlt          hdl: bonjour
12:40 hdl               hi gmcharlt
12:40 hdl               hi gm
12:38 magnuse           s/wesite/website/
12:38 magnuse           the wesite is really snappy from where i'm sitting now
12:36 nengard           website is working, but fetch keeps timing out
12:36 nengard           trying again
12:36 nengard           hmmm
12:36 druthb            looks good from here, nengard
12:35 * druthb          likes the hard-boiled realism of Cubs fans like that.
12:35 nengard           is git still not working?
12:35 jwagner           I'm going to make a bold prediction that the Nats will _not_ finish at the bottom of the National League East this year.  I didn't say they'd finish at the top, mind you....
12:35 * druthb          heard a Cubs fan once say, "yeah, the Cubs will suck again this year, but that's okay, I'll still go."
12:34 druthb            hee hee
12:33 jwagner           Hey! Spring training has just started!!! Let us have at least some time to enjoy the prospect of a great season before cold cruel reality sets in....
12:33 druthb            Possibly, jwagner, but just like the Nats....   :P
12:32 jwagner           druthb, maybe the sourdough just doesn't want to disappoint its fans?
12:32 druthb            When the sourdough starter answers back, you'll know it's a little *too* ready.
12:28 magnuse           jcamins: say hi to it from us! ;-)
12:27 * jcamins         goes to feed his sourdough starter before getting his day completely started.
12:24 druthb            hm.  hmhmhm..wonder what's goin on there..
12:22 magnuse           druthb: works for me, thanks! (but the web interface is slow, it shows the links to the stats and then waits a looong time to display the links to the repos...)
12:19 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5751 : Follow up patch, removing unused variable and fixing copyright <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51199afbc12eeac014d6175146ab247ba495d5c7> / Bug 5751 : MT2690 fix members-home <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=02154a537e49d0ad56998b19b4a563b162977454> / updating some references from koha.org to koha-community.org <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb
12:19 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5760 : MT3137 : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=761fa372977c753483c0b3378967d1f60a2bef2a> / Bug 5759 : displaying 2nd email if there is one on print template for borrowers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f9bebf802530ad1a96fe5bb5ced1b8ef02ba46f> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_2170' i
12:19 druthb            should be up now!
12:15 nengard           :)
12:15 magnuse           is it a plane? is it a bird? no, it's.... bywater!
12:15 jcamins           Good morning, #koha
12:15 * druthb          will kick it...sec.
12:14 * gmcharlt        floats the sekjal-druthb-et-al bat signal
12:14 gmcharlt          magnuse: indeed.  I can't SSH in to the server, so can't do anything myself
12:13 magnuse           congrats :-)
12:13 * druthb          hasn't won a dern thing from them yet.
12:12 nengard           woo hoo : http://www.facebook.com/101ftb/posts/10150100341493234
12:12 magnuse           gmcharlt: rangi said "its been up and down over the last day, currently down"
12:12 magnuse           hiya nengard
12:11 nengard           morning
12:11 magnuse           gmcharlt: or rather, what's down... i can't get a response from it...
12:11 druthb            mornin, nengard.  :)
12:11 liw               large irc networks tend to have a lot of people wanting the same names -- I'm lucky that my preferred nick is _usually_ not taken
12:11 * druthb          thinks "release early, release often" is a good thing....Except that if Terry Reese puts out *another* MarcEdit bundle this week, I'm gonna have to go after him with a big stick.
12:11 gmcharlt          magnuse: what's up?
12:09 magnuse           rangi was looking for someone earlier to have a look at Le Git...
12:04 magnuse           ;-)
12:03 kf                magnuse: we should find that person...
12:03 druthb            magnuse++
12:02 magnuse           sorry, plain ol' magnus was taken by someone else
12:02 magnuse           ooh, thanks
12:02 kf                this additional e is irritating me
12:02 kf                magnuse++
11:58 druthb            magnus++
11:57 magnuse           gmcharlt: thanks, i'll weild my powers carefully!
11:49 gmcharlt          magnus_lunch: cool, you're now a plain ol' wiki administrator ;)
11:34 * kf              agrees
11:33 * druthb          thinks magnus is neither plain nor ol'.
11:33 magnus_lunch      gmcharlt: plain ol' Magnus
11:16 gmcharlt          magnus_lunch: what is your wiki username?
10:30 kf                hm the filter on the overdues report are acting strange
09:41 kf                thx rangi
09:41 kf                ok
09:40 rangi             most likely feature freeze end of march string freeze on the 8th of april
09:39 rangi             depends how march goes
09:39 rangi             yeah, we discussed them, nothing set in stone tho
09:39 kf                ok, I thought we had talked about them on one meeting, but can't find my notes
09:39 kf                ah
09:39 rangi             they arent planned
09:39 kf                feature freeze/string freeze?
09:39 rangi             planned dates for what?
09:38 kf                do we have the planned dates for 3.4 somewhere?
09:15 slef              mtj: are you there?
09:12 slef              global power distribution #fail :)
09:11 magnuse           thanks for trying
09:10 magnuse           yup, i better wait for the americans (again with the americans! ;-)
09:10 rangi             thd, gmcharlt or nengard can do it
09:10 rangi             ahh same with paul
09:09 rangi             yep i have admin, but not bureaucrat
09:09 paul_p            rangi, & magnuse = I have your user page Magnus, but can't see where I can give you admin perms
09:09 magnuse           rangi & paul_p: looks like a Bureaucrat is needed...
09:08 slef              paul_p: barriers to entry hinder community growth.  By-page moderation would be better.
09:07 paul_p            rangi & magnuse = looking to see if I can give you erms
09:06 paul_p            we are a small wiki, with most contributors being long-time contributor, so putting some limits to creating pages is OK I think. Or we could add a full moderation = be able to write only after having written somethin on koha-devel or sent a mail to wiki admins.
09:06 rangi             slef: i have no idea, im sure there probably is
09:05 rangi             magnuse: ahh i cant, but i think paul can
09:05 paul_p            slef, very good idea ! (the moderation for wiki permissions)
09:04 slef              And is there no way to test wiki pages for spamminess and hold dubious ones (like if ((links-to-other-wiki-pages < 2) and (back-links < 2) and (off-site-links > 0)) then hold for moderation)?
09:02 slef              rangi: it is close to the border-line, but I think a small RM sponsorship note would be OK. Possibly newsletter for now, then note the sponsorship if/when you're appointed as 3.6 RM at next IRC general meeting?
09:00 magnuse           just Magnus
08:59 rangi             ahh i think i can do that, whats your username?
08:57 magnuse           btw, where does one apply for admin rights on the wiki? i'd like to help fight spam if i may...
08:55 magnuse           lazy americans, asleep when we need them... ;-)
08:50 magnuse           ah
08:50 rangi             its been up and down over the last day, currently down
08:50 rangi             git
08:50 magnuse           wassup rangi?
08:41 paul_p            bonjour l'europe. Sweet dreams oceania & america !
08:36 rangi             hmmm, we need a bywater person or gmcharlt
08:18 kf                hi hdl
08:17 magnuse           bonjour hdl
08:15 hdl               hi all
08:14 kf                hi magnuse :)
08:13 magnuse           guten morgen kf
08:06 kf                good morning #koha
07:32 magnuse           kia ora #koha
06:57 francharb         hi all
06:36 rangi             hi snail
06:18 snail             evening all
04:52 * Brooke_         is heading off to level her WoW alt...
04:52 Brooke_           cheers
04:50 space_librarian   And now I'm going. For real. Keep on dancing...
04:47 eythian           that does seem like an odd restriction
04:46 space_librarian   Nope. Men's medium. No go.
04:45 space_librarian   I'm tempted. Just for kicks...
04:44 eythian           hehe
04:43 Brooke_           clearly it is your solemn duty to represent paper in Jo's name.
04:42 Brooke_           hehehe
04:39 eythian           http://rpsbattle.com/aboutrules/ <-- what a curious idea
04:36 * eythian         cranks the Devin Townsend in order to keep motivated for the next hour.
04:33 Brooke_           oof not you too
04:32 * wizzyrea_       yawns
04:25 space_librarian   yep.
04:25 Brooke_           oof
04:25 eythian           2193 duplicate barcodes. I'm willing to bet that's Liberty vomit.
04:24 eythian           I have no doubt.
04:23 Brooke_           surely it is what Mr. Christie intended.
04:23 eythian           conveniently, there's already a blinking floor here.
04:22 * wizzyrea_       looks for the heeled shoes
04:22 * space_librarian finds the mirror ball
04:22 wizzyrea_         I wasn't fast enough >.>
04:22 wizzyrea_         oh that's what I was going to say!
04:22 space_librarian   true.
04:22 Brooke_           :D
04:21 eythian           or the _right_ time?!
04:21 space_librarian   I came back at the wrong time...
04:21 eythian           Brooke_: yay!
04:21 wizzyrea_         !!
04:21 Brooke_           Excellent, now that all the important types are gone, Robin and I can finally open our tawdry discothèque
04:18 space_librarian   and I shall bid you all adieu too...
04:17 Brooke_           bah, sleep is an addiction that can be cured.
04:16 wizzyrea_         later :)
04:16 druthb            I'm headed to bed, gang.  see you soon.
04:16 eythian           or it'll break down
04:16 wizzyrea_         go go
04:16 eythian           bus rather
04:15 eythian           yeah, you'll miss your train
04:15 * rangi           looks at the time
04:15 rangi             eek, i better get out of here
04:15 eythian           yay :)
04:15 eythian           81531 MARC records done in 1220.90409493446 seconds
04:01 druthb            [off] b'zacly!
04:00 rangi             [off] still dynix afaict
03:59 rangi             [off] yeah i was being mean http://www.scls.info/
03:58 druthb            [off] beg to doubt.
03:58 rangi             http://scls.typepad.com/link2koha/migration-events.html
03:58 rangi             so today is SCLS big day eh?
03:57 * wizzyrea_       waves at brooke
03:57 space_librarian   kia ora
03:57 eythian           �hola!
03:57 Brooke_           kia ora
03:55 eythian           hey, this isn't my problem, per se.
03:55 space_librarian   What did I say about tempting Murphy?
03:54 eythian           oh bother. They have duplicate barcodes.
03:54 * druthb          pokes wahanui
03:54 eythian           no, '0 rows affected' when it had just spend a minute deleting 70,000 of them.
03:54 wahanui           rumour has it problem is he will even be able to check the item out again if there is a reserve (using selfcheck)
03:54 space_librarian   problem?
03:53 eythian           you do lie so, mysql.
03:53 eythian           Query OK, 0 rows affected (1 min 4.83 sec)
03:50 space_librarian   but of course. Nobody else got the memo.
03:50 ibeardslee        heh
03:50 rangi             we won 2 years ago, its just taking a long time for the others to realise that
03:50 space_librarian   lol
03:49 wizzyrea_         yea, don't be like the iraqi information minister
03:49 space_librarian   Are we winning?
03:49 ibeardslee        depends if you've won the war or not
03:49 wizzyrea_         well, yes, I think so
03:49 eythian           I think so, yes
03:49 space_librarian   Actually, is it propaganda if it's the truth?
03:47 * space_librarian looks at the koha propaganda she's writing...
03:47 space_librarian   but it's so much fun!
03:46 wizzyrea_         you're right, we're bonkers.
03:46 * wizzyrea_       ponders the fact that she has 33 libraries, and at least double that many librarians adding things every day
03:46 * space_librarian crosses fingers
03:46 * eythian         prepares to load up the staging server.
03:46 eythian           oh hey. I think that run worked.
03:46 druthb            :)
03:46 wizzyrea_         i'm going to tell them that they're bonkers tomorrow
03:45 druthb            yes, you do, wizzyrea_ .  You guys are bonkers, but I loves ya.
03:45 wizzyrea_         though... i'm pretty sure it wasn't my librarians who messed it up >.>
03:45 space_librarian   poor, helpless data
03:45 * eythian         shakes fist at librarians.
03:45 eythian           that is definitely an issue.
03:45 * wizzyrea_       has lots of helpless data
03:45 space_librarian   pragmatists!
03:45 druthb            I have plenty of idealism about Koha.  But not about migrations.  It'd be easy 'cept for all these screwy librarians doing nasty things to poor helpless data.
03:44 * druthb          chuckles.
03:44 wizzyrea_         ^^
03:44 rangi             without idealism koha wouldnt exist :)
03:43 druthb            no, just been in the biz too long for idealism.
03:43 eythian           cynic.
03:43 wizzyrea_         realist?
03:43 eythian           you people are such pessimists.
03:43 wizzyrea_         ^^ does the same (not with migrations per se, with most of her projects)
03:42 druthb            I usually plan for all of my migrations to be near-disasters.  That way I can be happy when they are not.
03:42 wizzyrea_         we try not to feed murphy here
03:42 space_librarian   you're tempting Murphy again.
03:41 * eythian         kicks off a migration script, all going well this'll be perfect and I can relax.
03:40 space_librarian   damn. That's a cleric not to be messed with.
03:40 wizzyrea_         lol
03:39 eythian           http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1240899_99060101339_SMLibrarianstaffandbookmain_445x319.jpg <-- you can tell because of the book
03:37 wizzyrea_         pic or it didn't happen ;)
03:37 space_librarian   oi!
03:37 wizzyrea_         O.O lol
03:37 ibeardslee        you've seen the staff photo too?
03:37 * wizzyrea_       imagines a mashup of carl sagan and marian the librarian, giggles
03:36 space_librarian   :)
03:36 space_librarian   yes, and still surviving...
03:36 wizzyrea_         oh nice! lucky duck :)
03:36 rangi             wizzyrea_: space_librarian is a new hire at catalyst .. second week eh space_librarian ?
03:35 hudsonbot         * Paul Poulain: Bug 5760 : MT3137 : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support for readingrec.pl
03:35 hudsonbot         * Paul Poulain: Bug 5759 : displaying 2nd email if there is one on print template for borrowers
03:35 hudsonbot         Project Koha_Master build #366: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/366/
03:35 wizzyrea_         hehe nice druthb
03:35 wizzyrea_         hi thar, I'm liz from NEKLS... this server change has gotten me all confusticated as to who's who
03:35 druthb            had dinner with one of my favorite Koha people...never ever dull...
03:34 druthb            doin good!
03:34 * space_librarian gives thumbs up
03:34 wizzyrea_         how is everybody this evening
03:34 wizzyrea_         heya
03:34 * druthb          waves to wizzyrea_
03:15 rangi             good plan
03:15 * ibeardslee      makes a note in his diary to flick an email to all academy people asking how they are going .. beginning of Marcg
03:13 rangi             nope
03:12 ibeardslee        rangi: have you heard much more from John about carrying on his work?
03:12 hudsonbot         Starting build 366 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:52 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5760 : MT3137 : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=761fa372977c753483c0b3378967d1f60a2bef2a>
01:42 mtj               cool, thanx you!
01:42 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5759 : displaying 2nd email if there is one on print template for borrowers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f9bebf802530ad1a96fe5bb5ced1b8ef02ba46f>
01:42 sekjal            mtj: I'll get right on that
01:41 mtj               could you fix everyone's edit permissions on koha.org while you're at it? ;)
01:40 mtj               sekjal++
01:40 mtj               cool, me too
01:39 sekjal            okay, looks like it's back up; I got a successful pull
01:13 sekjal            the gitweb renders fine
01:13 sekjal            I think the git daemon could be down
01:13 mtj               origin  git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git
01:12 mtj               mason@fugu:~/g/head$ git remote -v
01:12 mtj               a network/firewall issue server side?
01:11 mtj               borked for me too
01:11 mtj               fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused)
01:11 mtj               git.koha-community.org[0:]: errno=Connection refused
01:11 mtj               mason@fugu:~/g/head$ git fetch
01:10 sekjal            can't seem to pull from git.koha-community.org