Time  Nick             Message
23:53 druthb           Those are such a little thing, really, but both patches--and from those particular people--mean a heckuva lot to *me*.
23:53 mtj              yeah, mail config is a bitch
23:52 druthb           mta_dragon_conquering++
23:52 druthb           Thanks! :)
23:52 mtj              they sure did hunny  ;)
23:51 druthb           I just signed off and sent a couple of patches...can someone peek and see if they got through to the list okay, please?
23:01 wizzyrea         ok i'm out ttyl :)
22:59 wizzyrea         it'll be ok I think
22:59 druthb           Hm.  will the Patches list like that?
22:58 cait             and if you send the patch files attached from another mail account?
22:56 druthb           That part works, but then they just stick in the exim4 queue.
22:56 cait             git-email works?
22:53 druthb           grrrr....both patches are applying fine, but my lil server can't seem to send email!
22:37 jcamins          Good night, #koha
22:36 jcamins          Okay, that's all for me for today.
22:30 cait             :)
22:29 * druthb         pulls the starter on her dev server, to sign these both off.
22:28 wizzyrea         cait++ for a brilliant idea
22:28 druthb           Keep eyes on the Patches list for why, on both of those.
22:28 cait             wizzyrea++
22:27 druthb           wizzyrea++
22:27 druthb           cait++
22:15 wizzyrea         well thank you ^.^
22:15 jcamins          You're awesome. :)
22:14 wizzyrea         lol what
22:14 wizzyrea         !!
22:14 jcamins          wizzyrea++
22:13 wizzyrea         !
22:13 druthb           wizzyrea++
21:50 cait             bye magnus :)
21:48 * magnus_away    wishes #koha a good night and a good weekend!
21:43 rhcl             rhcl: they ain't no such thing
21:27 rhcl             there's a module to create hold notices and overdue notices. Does anybody know if there is one specifically for bills (overdue so long that a bill is generated)
21:22 wizzyrea         meh that's a bit sparse
21:21 wizzyrea         http://www.nexpresslibrary.org/tag-cloud-the-skys-the-limit/
21:20 wizzyrea         we might have something on nexpresslibrary too... lemme look
21:17 * oleonard       wonders what he wrote
21:17 wizzyrea         there
21:17 wizzyrea         http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=396
21:16 wizzyrea         (oleonard wrote a great blog about that... let me go find it...)
21:16 sekjal           more like current practices, I think, best or otherwise
21:16 wizzyrea         or just like, looking for "best practices"
21:16 wizzyrea         is she having a problem?
21:15 wizzyrea         aha
21:15 cait             not using that either :(
21:13 sekjal           she's looking to show the functionality to her cataloging students
21:13 wizzyrea         in
21:13 wizzyrea         i'm curious as to what context she is wanting to use tags
21:12 sekjal           following on that theme, anyone use tags?  got a professor colleague asking about it for her class
21:03 cait             no, we don't use them at the moment
21:02 cait             uh
21:02 oleonard         Does anyone use rental charges? I see they only work with biblio-level itemtype.
19:32 ebegin           mtj, around?
19:30 nengard          thanks oleonard
19:25 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5462 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Fix variable names so we dont break template::toolkit
19:25 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5744 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, marc view in staff client is empty
19:25 oleonard         Bug 5744 will be fixed by a patch pending on bug 5462
19:12 jcamins          Probably I'm just more impatient.
19:10 hudsonbot        * Nicole C. Engard: add offline circ images
19:10 hudsonbot        * Nicole C. Engard: add upload offline circ rules
19:10 hudsonbot        Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #57: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/57/
19:10 hudsonbot        * Nicole C. Engard: add offline circ images
19:10 hudsonbot        * Nicole C. Engard: add upload offline circ rules
19:10 hudsonbot        Project Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch build #7: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch/7/
19:09 jcamins          Is MySQL 5.0 *way* slower than MySQL 5.1, or am I just more impatient?
18:58 hudsonbot        Starting build 7 for job Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:58 hudsonbot        Starting build 57 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:58 cait             hm, my entry on the wiki for the template toolkit is a bit older I think
18:56 nengard          like from the end of last week or this weekend
18:56 nengard          very new
18:56 nengard          yup
18:56 jcamins          nengard: It must be a pretty new bug, though.
18:55 nengard          jcamins i saw it during training this week and then again on my system
18:42 Nate             Hi cait and everyone!
18:40 atz              greets all
18:38 cait             I have that one in my list of template toolkit bugs... :(
18:38 cait             hm
18:37 jcamins          I was so sure that was my fault when I encountered it that I didn't even ask.
18:36 jcamins          Huh.
18:36 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5744 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, marc view in staff client is empty
18:36 jcamins          Oh, Bug 5744 wasn't just me doing something dumb.
18:35 cait             hi atz, Nate and jcamins :)
18:34 jcamins          Hello, #koha
18:31 druthb           atz!  Hi!
18:30 * jwagner        wants a drink :-)
18:29 cait             :)
18:29 druthb           mmm
18:29 * jwagner        gives druthb_meeting a cookie too
18:29 jwagner          No, just trying to cheer you up :-)
18:29 * druthb_meeting wants a cookie!
18:29 cait             ... could work
18:29 cait             trying to bribe me with cookies?
18:28 * jwagner        gives cait a cookie
18:22 cait             ;)
18:22 cait             grr
18:20 nengard          nevermind - tested on two systems - it's a bug - grr
18:19 nengard          or is it my data?
18:19 nengard          has anyone noticed that the marc view in the staff client is empty?
16:56 oleonard         nengard++
16:56 oleonard         Thanks!
16:55 nengard          :) will sign off now ;)
16:55 nengard          oleonard - must have been something with that record ... cause i tried another and had no problem
16:53 oleonard         nengard: I matched those permissions and still can't reproduce the problem.
16:51 tcohen           i'd like to know who's (or has been)  working on fines in days debarred
16:50 nengard          oleonard here are the permissions i had set: http://screencast.com/t/ENN2y2tlzZ
16:50 tcohen           hi #koha
16:48 nengard          let me go try again
16:48 nengard          hmmm
16:47 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2170 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Adding 'edititems' user-permission
16:47 oleonard         nengard: I can't reproduce the problem you report on Bug 2170
16:38 thd              hdl: Why would the number of hits always be 1011?
16:04 thd              hdl: I think that is the problem for my PHP YAZ client which I will fix now.
16:04 thd              hdl: I cannot also explain why I have no records from flaubert in my PHP YAZ client unless the problem is am actually targeting the same database with my other BibLibre test target.
16:01 hdl              If you can explain what we should be doing, We will do
16:00 thd              hdl: Yes, I see that.
16:00 hdl              then you don't have any error
16:00 hdl              if you type format xml
15:58 thd              I now have the same error with record type: Unimarc.
15:55 * thd            tries setting unimarc with the format command in yaz-client.
15:53 hdl              This is the "BAD Marc error"
15:53 hdl              yes
15:53 thd              bad MARC. Dumping as it is:
15:53 thd              hdl: Do you have the following with yaz-client when running show?  Record type: USmarc
15:39 hdl              if you try with yaz-client console, you may see
15:38 * thd            tries turning on warnings
15:37 hdl              yes
15:36 thd              hdl: Is it still in the YAZ client for you?
15:35 hdl              It was in the yaz-client
15:35 hdl              It never appeared in the server logs.
15:34 thd              hdl: Well I am not having any luck but at least you are not reporting a BAD MARC error now or is that still appearing in the logs?
15:31 thd              hdl: My client displays UNIMARC fine, although, I neglected UNIMARC punctuation.
15:30 thd              hdl: I requested UNIMARC, I will make certain that I used UNIMARC in combination with 1=1004 and not merely 1=1003.
15:30 hdl              So maybe you are not displaying 200$a
15:29 hdl              16:26:48-11/02 testz3950.pl(7) [request] Present OK -   1 1+20
15:29 hdl              @attrset Bib-1 @attr 1=1004 Jean
15:29 hdl              mmmm.... It is a UNIMARC database
15:28 hdl              I have those logs
15:28 hdl              16:23:24-11/02 testz3950.pl(5) [request] Present OK -   1 1+20
15:28 hdl              16:23:24-11/02 testz3950.pl(5) [request] Search biblios OK 1011 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @attr 1=1004 Jean
15:28 hdl              16:19:41-11/02 testz3950.pl(6) [request] Present OK -   1 1+20
15:28 hdl              attrset Bib-1 @attr 1=1003 Jean
15:27 thd              hdl: I still have no records returned from flaubert.biblibre.com:9999/biblios but also no errors.
15:25 thd              s/tool/script/
15:25 thd              hdl: You could create a tool to dynamically update the XML file for Explain.
15:24 thd              hdl: All YAZ Explain records are merely hard coded XML files.
15:23 hdl              hardcoding things which is in database is not really something I am keen on
15:22 thd              hdl: SimpleServer documentation has instructions on how to configure an Explain record.
15:20 thd              hdl: http://flaubert.biblibre.com:9999/biblios should have an Explain record in XML.
15:19 hdl              thd: what is the command for explain ?
15:10 thd              1=7 is ISBN
15:10 thd              hdl: Do you mean 1=1003?
15:06 hdl              I searched @attr 1=Author and it worked
15:05 thd              hdl: I have tried 1=4, I will try 1=7.
15:05 hdl              1=7
15:05 huginn           hdl: I've exhausted my database of quotes
15:05 hdl              @attr 1=4
15:05 thd              hdl: I have to use some use attribute.
15:04 hdl              thd: do try without @attr 1=1016
15:04 thd              hdl: There is also no explain record for that target.
15:03 thd              hdl: I do not have anything returned in my query "@attr 1=1016 Jean" against flaubert target when requesting either UNIMARC or MARCXML records.
14:46 nengard          oleonard hehe - nope that's not what that was ;)
14:40 * thd            setting up test target now
14:40 hdl              search for Jean
14:39 thd              hdl: f Jean?
14:38 hdl              hope that helps
14:38 * oleonard       knows nengard's password now!
14:38 hdl              For xml it works
14:38 hdl              f Jean for instance
14:38 nengard          oops - wrong window :)
14:38 nengard          k
14:37 hdl              thd: yaz-client tcp:flaubert.biblibre.com:9999/biblios
14:37 thd              hdl: are you still here?
14:35 sekjal           morning, druthb
14:35 druthb           Good morning, sekjal.
14:30 thd              hdl: What is the target address, database, and  port for your SimpleServer test?
14:27 thd              hdl: The method of encapsulating the records could also be suspect.
14:26 thd              hdl: I remember several causes of errors in YAZ relating to incorrect ISO 2709 values.
14:24 hdl              I could launch that for you to test.
14:24 thd              hdl: Do you not have a Z39.50 target I could test to see the BAD MARC error on my PHP based YAZ client?
14:23 thd              hdl: Yet you are testing Z39.50 with SimpleServer
14:22 hdl              you need a solr install
14:22 hdl              it is using a wip/solr branch.
14:21 thd              hdl: I would like to test your BAD MARC error myself
14:21 * thd            just had his third blown fuse in the past 2 weeks
14:20 hdl              hi all
14:20 hdl              thd: hi
14:20 thd              hdl: are you here?
14:15 kf               hehe
14:13 gmcharlt         oleonard++
14:13 nengard          :)
14:12 oleonard         "The hard stuff can wait 'til Monday"
14:12 * oleonard       announces Low-Hanging Fruit Friday
14:07 oleonard         I'm sure there's lots of good low-hanging fruit there :)
14:06 oleonard         http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&field0-0-0=cf_patch_status&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&version=master&version=rel_3_2&version=rel_3_4&version=unspecified&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=Patch%20pushed
14:06 oleonard         If anyone is interested, I discovered that 2170 wasn't completely fixed by going through this list looking for things which could be marked as fixed:
14:04 oleonard         Okay, I must not have tested edits after my last revision. Thanks for checking it
14:04 nengard          it's just editing
14:04 nengard          and adding a duplicate works
14:02 nengard          new record works
14:01 * oleonard       will re-check the editing workflow
14:00 nengard          will try to add one now
14:00 nengard          editing
14:00 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2170 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Adding 'edititems' user-permission
14:00 oleonard         nengard: Re: Bug 2170, were you creating a new record or editing an existing one?
13:58 kf               koha people have strange ideas of fun for a weekend ;)
13:25 kmkale           i see a fun filled weekend ahead for me  with this ;)
13:25 druthb           Shouldn't be too hairy a bit of coding, either, I am thinking.
13:24 kmkale           thanks druthb
13:22 druthb           kmkale:  I think that's fundamentally a sound idea.
13:20 kmkale           right. just wanted a quick reality check if there is something wrong with this idea..
13:19 oleonard         kmkale: I would email the developers list with your ideas and see if anyone has worked on the same idea
13:17 kmkale           something on the lines of <img src="/cgi-bin/koha/members/patronimage.pl?crdnum=<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="cardnumber" --> only we pass the isbn
13:15 kmkale           I am thinking of a include file which returns a div containing the image after going through the selected cover image sources in order and return after finding image
13:14 kmkale           I am asking what might be the best way to implement it
13:13 kmkale           working on it currently as part of the local images enh
13:13 oleonard         No one has developed that functionality
13:13 kmkale           aye know that
13:12 oleonard         You have to pick one
13:12 kmkale           how to display only first found?
13:12 oleonard         Yeah, Koha doesn't have any way of doing what you want
13:12 kmkale           oleonard: currently if we choose multiple cover image sources, multiple images are displayed
13:12 oleonard         ?
13:11 kmkale           owen druthb what is the best way to display only one cover image in your opinion?
13:11 kmkale           :(
13:11 oleonard         Saturday for him anyway, not sure if he'll be around.
13:11 druthb           wrong time of day for him, kmkale.
13:11 oleonard         Too early for rangi
13:11 kmkale           rangi: around?
12:56 huginn           jwagner: The current temperature in Burning Tree Estates, Bethesda, Maryland is -8.7�C (8:01 AM EST on February 11, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022.6 hPa (Steady).
12:56 jwagner          @wunder 20817
12:25 * druthb         needs the IV drip of caffiene turned up a bit this morning.
10:48 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5568 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Upgrade Amazon module to support Product Advertising API
10:48 * magnuse        notices that bug 5568 is limited to reviews, not covers
10:47 * magnuse        got the amazon stuff working, phew... was a problem with the marc logic in GetNormalizedISBN()
09:57 magnuse          kf_mtg: thanks!
09:57 kf_mtg           ok, meeting now - will be back later
09:56 kf_mtg           if the time is too old - you don't get content
09:56 magnuse          ah, yes i seem to remember something about that...
09:56 kf_mtg           it sends a timestamp to amazon
09:56 magnuse          que?
09:56 kf_mtg           magnuse: and check your sever time
09:55 kf_mtg           https://seminar-stuttgart.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=6151
09:55 kf_mtg           editions
09:55 magnuse          kf_mtg: cool, i better check my access key etc again then ;-)
09:55 kf_mtg           similar titles work too
09:54 kf_mtg           yes, check seminar-stuttgart.bsz-bw.de
09:54 magnuse          kf: amazon covers?
09:53 kf               magnuse: the covers are working for us too - have not checked the other features
09:53 kf               hi davi
09:44 davi             hi magnuse
09:44 magnuse          hiya davi!
09:39 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5568 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Upgrade Amazon module to support Product Advertising API
09:39 magnuse          hm, bug 5568 seems to say amazon enhanced content isn't working at the moment, but it seems to be working for HLT: http://www.library.org.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=tolkien
08:55 kf               kia ora magnus :)
08:06 magnuse          kia ora kf!
08:06 kf               hi #koha
08:05 hdl              HI
08:05 magnuse          kia ora hdl!
07:52 magnuse          :-)
07:51 sophie_m         kia ora :-)
07:50 francharb        ;)
07:50 francharb        kia ora everybody
07:50 francharb        ++
07:50 magnuse          after kohacon in nz it feels like an appropriate greeting for #koha
07:50 francharb        hehe
07:50 magnuse          :-)
07:50 magnuse          yup, but that's all i know
07:49 francharb        speaking maori?
07:49 francharb        kia ora?
07:49 francharb        hi magnuse
07:49 magnuse          kia ora francharb, sophie_m and #koha
07:05 francharb        and hello all
07:05 francharb        hi cait
07:05 * cait           waves to magnus and francharb
06:28 fredericd        yeah
06:25 indradg          fredericd, ping
05:44 kmkale           can someone help me understand how to add a subpermission to tools permission group in member-flags.pl / member-flags.tmpl?
03:30 kmkale           Namaskar #koha
01:55 jcamins          Good night, #koha
01:33 chris_n          howdy mason
01:33 brendan__        heya mason
01:33 mtj              heya chris_n brendan__
01:29 * chris_n        whips up some of this -> http://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/Caramel-Custard
01:29 chris_n          heya brendan__
01:29 brendan__        hi chris_n
01:28 * chris_n        thinks its entirely too quiet in here this <your-time-of-day>