Time Nick Message 01:03 rangi back 01:43 brendan__ evening 01:47 rangi hey brendan__ 01:47 brendan__ :) 01:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5731 When No ccode is defined for an item, then moredetail.pl throws a 500 error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1abf1ea2d009b15762bacd764fa5f66f915c6283> 01:57 hudsonbot Starting build 356 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5733 : MT3531: Intranet cart is emptied when session is closed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=94bd7ad545cfa996fe2ec58b5c9c3293bed8d3fa> 02:21 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #356: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/356/ 02:21 hudsonbot Paul Poulain: Bug 5731 When No ccode is defined for an item, then moredetail.pl throws a 500 error 02:22 hudsonbot Starting build 357 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:46 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #357: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/357/ 02:46 hudsonbot Paul Poulain: Bug 5733 : MT3531: Intranet cart is emptied when session is closed 04:08 kmkale Namaskar #koha 06:34 sonik anybody home? 06:37 kmkale hi sonik 06:38 sonik can you help me with my koha installation 06:41 kmkale sonik: ask your question. If I cant I am sure somebody will 06:43 sonik im having trouble with an internal server error 06:44 kmkale whats the error? 06:44 sonik theres a lot 06:44 sonik for staters 06:44 sonik *starters 06:44 sonik Premature end of script headers: opac-main.pl 06:44 kmkale sonik: you can use http://paste.koha-community.org/ to paste lotsa text 06:45 sonik ok 06:45 pastebot0 "sonik" at 210.4.97.200 pasted "opac errors" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/142 06:46 kmkale looks like you are missing a perl module 06:47 kmkale did you check if all perl module dependencies are met afre running perl Makefile.PL? 06:50 kmkale you can also run perl koha_perl_deps.pl -m in your dir where you untarred Koha 06:50 kmkale Date::Calc 06:53 sonik hmm 06:53 sonik ic 06:58 francharb hi #koha 06:59 kmkale hi francharb hdl 06:59 hdl hi 07:00 hdl high time to head to office 07:04 sonik kmkale is that on a linux installation? 07:04 sonik im trying it out on a windows installation 07:05 kmkale oh. which Koha version sonik ? 07:06 mtj sonik: try a linux install 1st ;) 07:06 kmkale yeh. its so much easier now. and you get the latest goodies 07:07 sonik i did that already, it wasnt fruitful 07:07 sonik i already intalled it 3 on different OS 07:08 mtj if you cant install koha on linux, you wont be able to install it on windows... 07:08 sonik i successfully installed it on windows 07:08 mtj try debian 1st 07:09 sonik but im having some problems on the Internal server errors 07:10 mtj theres currently only *1* developer with a windows install 07:10 mtj he is called chris_n on irc 07:10 sonik oh well 07:11 sonik might as well reinstall to whole thing T_T 07:11 mtj so, if you catch chris_n on irc, he can prolly help you 07:12 mtj try debian 1st 07:12 mtj 98% of all dentists prefer debian 07:13 sonik if symptoms presist insult your doctor 07:13 sonik hehehehe 07:13 sonik ok will try debian 07:13 sonik will have to download an image first 07:14 mtj koha 2.2.9 is *years* old, too 07:14 mtj try a koha VM image, on yr windows box 07:15 sonik i already did that 07:34 pastebot0 "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "Update errors after git pull" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/143 07:35 kmkale looks like the privacy column already existed 08:35 kf hi #koha 09:05 glernil good day 09:05 glernil how can i set koha to send check out and check in notifications to patrons immediately? 09:07 kf you want to change the time until a checkout notice is sent out? 09:07 kf and sending checkout notices works for you already? 09:07 glernil i just want to send notifications 09:08 kf so the feature is not working for you yet? 09:08 jransom hiya everyone 09:08 kf you have to activate enhancedmessagingpreferences and activate check-in and checkout notices in the borrower account 09:08 kf you can also set default values in your borrower categories that will be used for newly created patrons 09:08 glernil ok.. i'll try to do that 09:08 kf you have to add cronjobs too 09:09 kf or I think so - not sure you need process_message_queue for that feature 09:09 glernil what are cron jobs? 09:09 kf scheduled runs of scripts 09:09 kf like fines.pl which sets fines on borrower accounts 09:11 kf and there are scripts for creating and processing of notices too 09:11 kf overdue notices, advance notices, item due notices, not sure if it includes the checkout and check-in notices 09:11 glernil how can that be? could you please provide a resource for that? 09:11 kf hi jransom :) 09:11 kf glernil: check out the manual sectiona bout cronjobs 09:12 kf but I would try to setup the feature like I told you, activate the enhancedmessagingpreference and activate for a borrower and try it 09:12 kf perhaps it works without 09:12 kf but you will need cronjobs for sure for other features 09:12 glernil ok.. i have to check that out 09:12 glernil tnx! 09:12 glernil ;) 09:13 kf http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=c13186 09:15 kf jransom: Baacamp? :) 09:16 jransom http://baacamp.org/ 09:18 kf cool 09:18 kf sounds like a lot of fun and interesting conversations 09:22 jransom should be - and I hope so. Chris is going to and few others from Catalyst and library circles 09:22 jransom should be very cool. 09:22 jransom gotta go get some sleep 09:22 jransom cya 09:50 davi morning 09:52 davi Must I sent the patch I have signed off for bug 5682 to koha@lists.katipo.co.nz or to koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org ? 09:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5682 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, POD in C4::Charset was wrong 09:59 kf davi: always koha-patches 10:00 davi ack 10:01 kf add [SIGNED-OFF] to the subject 10:01 kf I will add teh list to the wiki 11:48 kf hi magnuse :) 11:48 * magnuse wonders why all his search results are showing as "No copies available", when the detail view says "available"... 11:49 magnuse guten tag kf & #koha 11:49 kf magnuse: reindex= 11:49 kf ? 11:49 magnuse hm, could be wort a try i guess 11:49 kf it could be that one information comes from zebra and the other from mysql 11:53 magnuse well, the strange thing is i dumpt one record right before it's passed to the xslt transform, and it does have <items xmlns="http://www.koha-community.org/items"><item><homebranch>SKSK Bibliotek</homebranch><status>available</status><itemcallnumber>Cha</itemcallnumber></item></items> and that <status>available</status> is what the xslt checks to say available/not available 12:01 magnuse nope reindexing didn't change anything, i'll keep digging ;-) 12:12 kf magnuse: good luck! 12:23 kf hi Nate__ 12:37 Nate__ moning 12:40 jwagner Er, morning? 12:41 jwagner @wunder 20817 12:41 huginn jwagner: The current temperature in Burning Tree Estates, Bethesda, Maryland is -5.3�C (7:44 AM EST on February 10, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Rising). 13:05 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway 13:05 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -7.0�C (1:50 PM CET on February 10, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -16.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 13:18 francharb @wunder lyon, france 13:18 huginn francharb: The current temperature in Bron, France is 9.0�C (2:22 PM CET on February 10, 2011). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023.2 hPa (Steady). 13:18 francharb Humidity: 81% : no shit! 13:19 francharb even in montreal with -30°, it's less chilly than 9° with Humidity: 81%... 13:29 magnuse +9 sounds nice... 13:34 magnuse but: woohoo! the sun is shining on our livingroom windowsill! i don't think it has done that since before kohacon 13:46 jwagner sunlight++ 13:47 magnuse sunlight++ # i couldn't agree more! 13:47 magnuse @karma sunlight 13:47 huginn magnuse: Karma for "sunlight" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. 14:10 magnuse o/ 14:11 druthb hi, magnus! :D 14:11 magnuse hiya druthb 14:11 magnuse still enjoying code4lib? 14:12 druthb yup. I'm tired, but it's been great! 14:14 jwagner druthb, wave at all my cousins while you're there! 14:14 magnuse sounds perfect, druthb :-) 14:14 druthb willdo, jwagner! :D 14:15 druthb magnuse: It's been wonderful, on many levels. Made some great contacts. 14:15 * jwagner needs to get back to Indiana for some family visits... 14:48 fcapo hello, I'm having a problem with the merge_authority.pl script. 14:48 fcapo When I run it with the -b option, I get this error : 14:48 fcapo {_conn} undefined: has this Connection been destroy()ed? at /usr/lib/perl5/ZOOM.pm line 341. 14:50 fcapo It seems to happen because the ZOOM connection is destroyed on line 1305 of AuthoritiesMarc.pm . The first merge is done, but when it gets to the second one, the connection is already destroyed. 14:51 kmkale bye all. Good night 16:06 oleonard fcapo: When you submit a patch don't forget to assign the bug to yourself and to mark it "assigned" 16:08 fcapo oh, sorry, I knew I forgot something :/ 16:08 oleonard That's okay, thanks for sending the patches! :) 16:09 jcamins Good morning, #koha 16:11 rhcl_away hi hi jcamins 16:11 oleonard Hi jcamins and rhcl 16:11 rhcl hi oleonard 16:13 jcamins Hello, rhcl and oleonard. 16:31 oleonard This channel is quiet as a Friday today 16:31 jcamins Yay! Today is Friday! 16:31 jcamins Right? 16:31 oleonard Not with that nick it isn't jcamins 16:32 oleonard Today Friday is reserved for a select few 16:32 jcamins Aww. Phooey. 16:33 * kf is glad it's not friday 16:33 * kf waves 16:34 * jcamins waves back 16:35 * druthb wonders if it Friday for persons with her nick.. 16:36 kf hm? 16:39 jcamins Does Koha really display only 440 and not 490? 16:39 druthb see oleonard's last... 16:41 jcamins Ah, fixed in master. 16:44 magnuse it's friday in nz... 16:45 jcamins Does anyone have any suggestions on how to hide the Item type column in the OPAC using jQuery? 16:46 jcamins There is no identifying characteristic that I can see. 16:47 jcamins Well, I guess it's the first column. 16:47 oleonard Yeah, that's the ticket jcamins 16:48 oleonard Try: $("#holdingst td, #holdingst th").eq(0).hide(); 16:50 jcamins Works great, thanks! 17:08 oleonard rangi: Did you get the patch for Bug 5720 from Biblibre's stuff? 17:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5720 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Fixing permissions for addbiblio.pl 17:08 rangi theres an easy way to tell oleonard 17:08 rangi check the blocks bit 17:09 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencytree.cgi?id=5720&hide_resolved=1 17:09 rangi what im doing is breaking those big bugs into smaller testable ones 17:10 rangi eg http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencytree.cgi?id=5574&hide_resolved=1 17:10 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencytree.cgi?id=5575&hide_resolved=1 <-- im still working on, 5574 is broken up and some are merged into master now 17:11 rangi each bug applies independently of the others too 17:11 oleonard rangi: That's good news for the rest of us but it sounds like a laborious process for you 17:11 rangi so i have had to change a few things, getting there 17:12 rangi yup, it does take time, but biblibre have hired catalyst to help them tidy these up 17:12 oleonard biblibre++ 17:13 oleonard Bug 5720 caught my eye because I was working on the same fix this week :| 17:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5720 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Fixing permissions for addbiblio.pl 17:13 jcamins rangi++ 17:13 rangi *nod* thats the other danger of big branch/bugs 17:13 rangi stuff isnt visible 17:13 oleonard I'd be bummed if my fix actually worked ;) 17:13 rangi hehe 17:13 * oleonard will test Biblibre's patch 17:14 rangi yay! 17:14 rangi oleonard++ 17:15 rangi @karma 17:15 huginn rangi: Highest karma: "chris" (236), "oleonard" (229), and "gmcharlt" (216). Lowest karma: "<!" (-86), "failed" (-49), and "-" (-34). You (rangi) are ranked 52 out of 1206. 17:15 oleonard I'm looking forward to testing the broken-out pieces of Bug 5575 17:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements 17:18 rangi yeah its a little tricky as im breaking them out, then finding the fixes that have been done and applying those too 17:18 rangi but they should all be done by the end of next week with patches for all 17:19 rangi im not gonna be around most of today, and all sat and sun tho 18:38 Barc 3.2.2 install - make test showing this error -> PROBLEMS LOADING FILE 'C4::Service' . Any ideas? 18:40 Barc I got booted! Q again: 18:40 Barc 3.2.2 install. Make test gives this error -> PROBLEMS LOADING FILE 'C4::Service. Any ideas? 18:43 jcamins Barc: not really. Sounds like it might be an issue with a missing module? 18:43 jcamins How did you install Koha? 18:44 Barc downloaded the tar and followed the install instructions. Have done it many times but never seen this one! 18:45 Barc Is there a module check? I see the dep check perl script but that has none missing. 18:47 brendan__ @wunder 93109 18:47 huginn brendan__: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 20.2�C (10:51 AM PST on February 10, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Falling). 18:47 jcamins Hm. 18:48 jcamins I'm out of ideas, because there's only the one script that I know of. 18:50 rangi barc: why 3.2.2 not 3.2.3 ? 18:51 Barc Cause I have to migrate it from one server to another and the source is 3.2.2. I thought it might be easier using the same release 18:52 rangi well if you are just copying the db, the upgrader will kick in and upgrade it, but yeah as long as you got 3.2.2 from koha-community.org it should be alright 18:52 Barc I think DBD::MySQL didn't install correclty. In fact, I know it didn't, but when try to install that I get this error: Can't exec "mysql_config": No such file or directory at Makefile.PL line 82 18:52 jcamins Barc: are you missing the mysql_client package? 18:52 rangi what distro? 18:53 rangi apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl 18:53 rangi will pull in the dependencies 18:54 rangi (if you are using debian or one of its derivatives) 18:54 Barc It's installed already. It is debian lenny, 5.08 18:55 rangi apt-get install mysql-client 18:57 Barc That's installed also......strange 18:57 rangi and the server is installed? 18:57 * cait waves 18:57 * jcamins waves to cait 18:57 cait hi jared :) 18:58 Barc Of course! 18:59 jcamins apt-get remove libdbd-mysql-perl followed by a reinstall? 19:00 rangi well, youve managed to get yourself into a situation ive never seen before, so excuse the questions if they sound obvious 19:01 Barc Sorry - I didn't mean to sound like it did. Thanks for your help. 19:02 Barc Remove and reinstall and the same error! 19:03 rangi how weird 19:03 rangi i wonder if paths are messed up 19:04 rangi locate mysql_config .. find anything? 19:06 ibeardslee same problem mentioned here ... http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2010-May/023902.html 19:07 rangi yeah but no answer 19:07 rangi ah ha 19:07 rangi mysql-dev 19:07 Barc Yeah, I followed that through too.......locate found nothing! 19:07 rangi https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-enterprise-47/cant-exec-mysql_config-645147/ 19:08 Barc mysql-dev doesn;t exist 19:08 ibeardslee rangi: looking at that as well 19:08 Barc been there too! 19:08 jcamins I am just setting up a new Lenny system. 19:08 jcamins I'll let you know if I run into any issues. 19:10 jcamins I'll be installing the latest from git eventually, but I can try it first with 3.2.2. 19:12 rangi libmysqlclient15-dev 19:12 Barc Well, 'libmysqlclient15-dev sorted it 19:12 rangi heh 19:13 Barc but I still get the C4::Services error back in the make test for koha.....unreal! I have installed a lot of koha systems and never ran into these problems! 19:13 rangi yeah, ive never seen the C4::Services one 19:14 rangi does it give you more info? 19:14 Barc yep 19:14 Barc this 19:14 Barc Error: Can't connect to data source 'dbname=__DB_NAME__;host=__DB_HOST__;port=__DB_PORT__' because I can't work out what driver to use (it doesn't seem to contain a 'dbi:driver:' prefix and the DBI_DRIVER env var is not set) at /home/root/kohatmp/koha-3.2.2/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 692 19:14 rangi ah ha! 19:14 jcamins Oh, there's why. 19:14 Barc suspense......... 19:15 rangi its using the wrong koha-conf.xml 19:15 rangi one that hasnt been configured 19:16 Barc ummm....I can see that path alright, to the temp dir....but I always install from there......what am I missing!? 19:16 rangi echo $KOHA_CONF 19:18 Barc I will----although I think the promblem is that I ran makefile before I had DBD::Mysql installed 19:19 Barc Yep - I reran the makefile and now the test passed. 19:19 Barc Schoolboy error - sorry for taking up your time! But thanks for your help..... 19:21 rangi no worries 19:47 hdl hi all 19:47 brendan__ heya hdl 19:50 hdl any git master around ? 19:52 gmcharlt hdl: what's up? 19:52 hdl just saying hi 19:52 hdl Oh yes... 19:53 hdl I have some question 19:53 hdl say : repository A is for merging devs and testing. 19:53 hdl Then it is validated and branches should be pushed and merged. 19:53 hdl In order to be released for a library 19:54 hdl repository A contains branch A B C merged with conflicts solved. 19:54 hdl But only A and C are validated 19:55 hdl Is there any way to get branch B out of the merge ? and still push the merge of branch A and C without redoing the conflict ? 19:56 gmcharlt you could try reverting the merge commit that folded B in 19:56 gmcharlt though there would likely be a new set of conflicts to resolve to before validating and testing the combined A+C 19:57 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=c9465ed9dfb0ec557a674104f11bb969213c315b 19:57 gmcharlt exactly 19:57 hdl gmcharlt: yes... reverting would not be a solution 19:58 rangi you have 2 options, revert and fix, 19:58 rangi create a new branch, merge and a and c and fix 19:59 rangi unless you want to try rebasing it interactively, but chances are you will just make a bigger mess doing that 20:39 wizzyrea oleonard: about? 20:39 oleonard Yes 20:40 wizzyrea one of my librarians had an idea re: the checkout page and holds 20:40 wizzyrea I wanted to see what you thought of it 20:40 wizzyrea you know how it shows waiting holds on the checkout page? 20:40 wizzyrea and it hotlinks the title of the book 20:41 oleonard I know of this. 20:41 wizzyrea one of my librarians suggested that it would be super cool if next to that alert you could click a link that would either send the barcode to the check out box, or check out the item 20:41 wizzyrea right then 20:43 oleonard I've had a similar thought before. I think it stems from our fundamental laziness. 20:43 oleonard It's somehow easier to click a button like that than scan the book, which must be right in front of us anyway. 20:43 wizzyrea I see her point about it, since many holds in our system come from different libraries 20:43 wizzyrea the barcodes are all in weird places 20:44 wizzyrea inside, outside, on the back, on the front 20:44 oleonard But do we run the risk of accidental checkouts? 20:44 wizzyrea so it would be much easier to click the button (I guess( 20:44 wizzyrea well that's a legit concern 20:47 wizzyrea it's just something to think about, I didnt want to file a bug without pestering you about it (because it might be a dumb idea_ 20:47 wizzyrea it doesn't seem dumb though, it kind of makes sense 20:47 wizzyrea sending the barcode to the field would probably be less prone to accidents than a direct checkout from the link 20:48 wizzyrea bc you'd have to click 2x 20:48 * oleonard falls over from exhaustion after the second click 20:49 wizzyrea hehehe 20:50 * gmcharlt smells a new syspref - ProtectCircDeskStaffFromTerminalExhaustion 20:50 wizzyrea mmmm smells like cookies 20:50 gmcharlt though seriously, I think the best way to decide would be to implement both 20:50 gmcharlt do some testing 20:50 gmcharlt and see if directly checking out from the alert is OK or is leading to too many errors 20:51 wizzyrea I mean, these are holds that are already waiting 20:53 oleonard The simplicity of the implementation is tempting 20:57 wizzyrea Do we like the idea enough for me to file an enh bug? 20:57 oleonard Sure why not 20:57 wizzyrea k 20:59 oleonard anyway, the idea will nag my brain until I work up a patch 20:59 wizzyrea hahaha 21:00 oleonard wizzyrea: Then you can set up the A/B testing with a couple of your libraries as guinea pigs :P 21:02 wizzyrea :) I could certainly have them look it over 21:02 wizzyrea bug 5739 21:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5739 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Check out waiting holds directly from "hold waiting" alerts on circulation screen 21:08 wizzyrea lol I just sent my librarian the link and she was pretty excited. 21:08 wizzyrea welcome to the world of open source :) 21:09 wizzyrea this reverse fine thing is really useful for testing lol 21:09 wizzyrea fine on! fine off! 21:14 jcamins chris_n: around? 21:14 jcamins chris_n: never mind. 21:22 oleonard Well, my fresh patch for Bug 2170 does what I thought the patch for Bug 5720 was going to do 21:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2170 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Adding 'edititems' user-permission 21:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5720 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Fixing permissions for addbiblio.pl 21:50 jcamins Hey, I have a question about the timing of the Template::Toolkit changeover- is it the last feature that goes into 3.4? 21:53 eythian jcamins: rangi is likely to be away for a while, so may not be able to answer that for a bit. Unless his plane hasn't left yet. 21:58 jcamins eythian: yeah, I know rangi is away, but I wasn't sure if other people knew. 21:58 eythian OK, cool. I'm not sure either. 22:36 druthb nearly_free_public_wifi++ 22:37 jcamins unopenable_laptops-- 22:37 gmcharlt the synchronicity of that is ... interesting 22:37 druthb hee hee 22:38 druthb hi, gmcharlt! 22:38 gmcharlt howdy 22:38 wahanui que tal, gmcharlt 22:38 * wizzyrea hasn't met one she can't open (even if that involves a hammer) 22:38 * jcamins doesn't want to use a hammer on his shiny macbook pro. 22:38 wizzyrea probably not the optimal solution for that 22:39 gmcharlt jcamins: eek. since when did macbook pros come with locking cases? 22:39 jcamins gmcharlt: they have bizarrely-oriented screws. 22:39 jcamins To clarify, I'm able to use the laptop. 22:40 gmcharlt ah, you mean commit that which Jobs hath expressly forbidden 22:40 wizzyrea OPEN IT 22:40 wizzyrea :) 22:40 jcamins However, I just got desperately-needed RAM and discovered that there is no way I was going to be able to install said RAM. 22:41 eythian goodness. You want to _modify_ your mac? Have you the brainworms? 22:41 * wizzyrea has a 15 and got in just fine tyvm 22:41 jcamins So after class tomorrow I'll be taking a trip to NYU's friendly neighborhood Apple Authorized Service Provider (like the snake;) to have the memory installed. 22:42 * druthb grumps a little. 22:44 * druthb groans....overbooked! 22:44 wizzyrea doh 22:45 druthb yah. 22:46 druthb Fortnuately, I'm not one of those fools^H^H^H^H^Hnutjubs^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpersons who insist on carrying a bunch of crap aboard. just my lappy case and coat. 22:53 druthb networks_with_hiccups-- 23:01 druthb Better get ready to board. See y'all soon!