Time Nick Message
23:24 Brooke_ almost chow time
23:20 jcamins_irssi Theory: what if you created a record using a framework that allowed you to put data into 655$9, and you didn't put anything in any other subfield of 655, then you changed the framework?
23:18 * Brooke_ vastly prefers Polynesia.
23:18 Brooke_ go live next door to Magnus then ;)
23:17 wizzyrea_ Brooke_: I love snow :)
23:15 jcamins_irssi Sensibly.
23:15 jcamins_irssi bulkmarcimport.pl won't import it.
23:15 jcamins_irssi Anyone have any thoughts on how a record which included a field with no subfields could get into Koha?
23:04 Brooke_ not like those big threatening fluffy things that get all blown out in like 5 minutes
23:04 wizzyrea_ there's a 3 foot drift by my front door
23:03 Brooke_ they have beady little eyes and accumulate
23:03 Brooke_ not small ones
23:03 Brooke_ uh oh
23:03 wizzyrea_ good point
23:03 rangi do time lapse stuff
23:03 wizzyrea_ I just took a video, but the snow flakes are so small that they don't really show
23:02 rangi you better be taking photos
23:02 wizzyrea_ lordie this snow is outrageous
23:00 Brooke_ if they weren't so camera happy, I'd have played with the poi
23:00 Brooke_ I realise that :)
23:00 rangi it is the wrong one actually :)
23:00 wizzyrea_ rofl
23:00 Brooke_ does anyone have a picture of Paul doing the *wrong* haka?
22:59 Brooke_ I will be more specific
22:59 Brooke_ okay fine
22:59 rangi pet peeve, there isnt only one :)
22:59 rangi a haka
22:59 rangi psst
22:55 Brooke_ surely someone has a choice stopped image of Mr. Poulain doing the haka...
22:36 Brooke_ sleep well
22:36 Brooke_ good night!
22:33 hdl good night
22:29 wasab1 cheers
22:27 rangi russ got ops that time, he'll op ppl when he gets a chance
22:25 gmcharlt wasab1: looks like you need to do it again, the katipo IRC server just bounced
22:24 jcamins_irssi I don't know.
22:21 jcamins_irssi I'm looking now.
22:21 gmcharlt wasab1: thanks
22:20 gmcharlt jcamins_irssi: maybe, maybe not; is there anything in the log?
22:20 wasab1 rangi: ops granted katipo irc….
22:20 jcamins_irssi (biblioitems.marcxml)
22:19 jcamins_irssi If a record is failing to display in XSLT.pm, that means that the marcxml field is corrupt, correct?
22:16 ibeardslee It seems possible .. rather than a straight 'NO'
22:15 Brooke_ does that sufficiently answer your question, or would you like me to take a closer look via email or summat?
22:15 rangi danke
22:15 wasab1 rangi: will fix katipo irc in a tic
22:15 Brooke_ oof
22:14 Brooke_ its
22:14 Brooke_ this is the sort of thing that DC would make very easy by it's creator dohickey
22:14 Brooke_ you can always double down and make sure it's tagged on top of that
22:14 Brooke_ and if you've tagging active
22:13 Brooke_ you needs be sure that they all have Sting as an access point
22:13 Brooke_ anyhoo
22:13 * wizzyrea_ gulps
22:13 Brooke_ shhh you'll provoke them
22:13 rangi im my version of the world there are
22:12 wizzyrea_ there are cataloguing valkyries?!
22:12 Brooke_ valkyries even
22:12 Brooke_ the valyries are rarer.
22:12 Brooke_ it's shooting by the gay cataloguing mafia that is the more immediate danger
22:12 rangi and cataloguing valkyries ride in and stab you
22:12 Brooke_ it should if they're catalogued properly
22:12 rangi you get those kinda answers wrong
22:11 * rangi passes
22:10 ibeardslee can (as an example) Sting (as an author) show as the author of his book of poems, the 'author' of this CDs and as the actor in (eg Dune)?
22:09 BobB Hi Brooke !
22:09 Brooke_ Bob!
22:08 * Brooke_ smells a cataloguing question
22:08 Brooke_ oh dear
22:08 ibeardslee if I have books, dvds and Cds in my personal koha instance
22:08 rangi 2 in cairo i think
22:08 rangi there are koha libraries in egypt
22:08 ibeardslee and now onto something koha related ..
22:05 ibeardslee and some will stay in the hands of private collectors or be destroyed by people how wonder of a second about the junk their relative collected as they biff stuff into the skip
22:04 Brooke_ shouldn't have to hold out that sort of hope
22:04 Brooke_ some of it will turn up again years later
22:01 rangi yeah :(
22:01 ibeardslee massive looting in their mueseum
22:01 * Brooke_ volunteered to go to Iraq to protect their Library for internship credit, but her Library School was having none of it
22:01 ibeardslee sadly no-one did that when Baghdad 'fell'
22:01 Brooke_ that's awesome
22:00 ibeardslee that is just amazing
22:00 rangi for those who havent seen it yet
22:00 rangi http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/feb/01/alexandria-youth-protecting-library
21:59 rangi Ahmuck: back, my linode runs bugs. paste. download. and hudson. ... it needs more disk if we want it to do much more
21:50 slef chris_n: on the one hand, it worked. On the other, having it buried in amongst updatedatabase output isn't going to be much of a big flag to most people who upgrade koha.
21:42 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: update opac renewal image now that you can select multiples
21:42 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #55: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/55/
21:41 Ahmuck kk, i'll be back in about 1.5 hours
21:41 rangi meeting
21:41 rangi brb
21:40 Ahmuck need more space for what?
21:40 Ahmuck linode space
21:39 rangi eh?
21:39 Ahmuck rangi: space for what?
21:34 rangi 12 hours time :)
21:33 gbengaadara Trying to get prepared for the meeting in some hours time
21:32 gbengaadara Hello
21:32 * Brooke_ waves to mr. adara
21:30 hudsonbot Starting build 55 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:26 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add shelf browser preferences
21:26 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #54: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/54/
21:15 hudsonbot Starting build 54 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:11 rangi wasab1: can you fix?
21:10 gmcharlt alohalog the bot does
21:10 gmcharlt actually, never mind, don't have op there
21:10 gmcharlt I'm going to change its topic
21:10 gmcharlt I see that the Katipo IRC server just came back
20:58 rangi no one has spazzed out yet, so id say that it has
20:57 rangi yup, we were just waiting to see if it stuck first
20:57 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add maxItemsInSearchResults preference
20:57 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #53: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/53/
20:56 darling we might want to put a more easy to see news item on the web site re the irc change
20:56 rangi hi darling
20:55 darling hello people
20:53 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on February 02, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
20:53 rangi @wunder wellington nz
20:51 gmcharlt *sigh*
20:51 huginn gmcharlt: The current temperature in Toronto Pearson, Ontario is -8.0�C (3:46 PM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -16.0�C. Pressure: (Falling).
20:51 gmcharlt @wunder YYZ
20:45 hudsonbot Starting build 53 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:36 sekjal but that could be another mechanism
20:36 nengard thanks
20:36 sekjal nengard: maxItemsInSearchResults is definitely staff client... may be OPAC
20:36 hudsonbot * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.03.001
20:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100
20:36 hudsonbot * Reed Wade: Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers
20:36 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #94: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/94/
20:35 nengard and does that pref effect the opac and staff client or just one?
20:35 Brooke_ night
20:34 cait bye all :)
20:34 cait time to sleep, lots of work tomorrow
20:33 nengard am i reading the commit messages right - maxItemsInSearchResults was added back to 3.4 but not 3.2?
20:33 gmcharlt cait: Hrvatska
20:33 cait but it's croatia, you are right
20:33 cait oh, I had guessed hungary
20:32 Brooke_ looks like BiH
20:32 oleonard Chrome says it's Croatian?
20:31 cait nice opac
20:30 gmcharlt Brooke_: LOCKRS
20:30 rangi https://katalog.irb.hr/
20:30 cait I really like the evil woman's fudge recipe
20:30 rangi i like this site
20:30 cait hehe
20:28 Brooke_ http://lesttheybelost.blogspot.com/
20:28 Brooke_ oh dear gods, that evil woman has posted evil things on her blog again. *sigh*
20:27 cait rangi: that's ok - good to know it will go away
20:26 * Brooke_ cheers at oleonard
20:25 * oleonard made it through <TMPL> to <!-- TMPL -->, should be able to manage
20:25 chrisdothall oleonard: its worth it though, I promise, much nicer syntax :)
20:25 oleonard (not to mention the markup-parsing center of my HTML editor)
20:25 rangi oleonard: yeah, you'll find its a lot easier to spot what are comments and what are template tags now :)
20:24 cait borrowers account page is quite messy
20:24 cait oleonard: perhaps you could look at borrowers and the datepicker
20:24 oleonard Oh man the markup-parsing center of my brain is going to need a complete re-write!
20:24 rangi oleonard: do you see the table at the bottom?
20:24 cait will probably postpone testing to tomorrow though - because I want to go to bed ;)
20:24 rangi cait: it will go in with the template work, i probably wont get round to putting it in master before then
20:23 Brooke_ yeah rangi has some bad memory cells what need locating ;)
20:23 cait rangi: will this go into master and others too? should I test there again?
20:23 oleonard Anything in particular that needs to be tested?
20:22 rangi i knew i did it somewhere ;)
20:22 rangi ah ha
20:22 cait it seems fixed on template-test
20:22 cait rangi: hm!
20:21 rangi right, if chrisdothall has time, ill get him to take a look at that, its a fairly simple 3 or 2 line change iirc
20:20 cait yeah, better take it out
20:20 cait so if you have installed templates for an older version and updated your system without updating those templates...
20:20 rangi and overrides what the library have decided
20:20 rangi yup
20:20 cait not the languages marked in the sys prefs
20:20 cait the problem is, it takes all installed languages into account
20:19 cait yeah
20:19 rangi just let the user choose
20:19 cait rangi: I am with you
20:19 rangi it was good in theory, but in practice, its just annoying
20:19 cait I remember no patch for master or 3.2.x - not sure about the template branch
20:19 rangi my idea was just take the browser detection bit right out
20:18 cait I can test it quite easily though
20:18 rangi maybe i never sent a patch
20:18 cait rangi: you didn#t tell me
20:18 rangi i thought i did htat?
20:18 cait yes
20:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3754 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED, Language detection doesn't take really care of syspref
20:18 cait because the translated templates don't work there
20:18 chrisdothall cait: bug 3754?
20:18 cait it's a general problem but extra annoying if you try to test the templates
20:17 chrisdothall cait: is this for template_test?
20:17 cait if you have another language in your browser settings it breaks everything
20:17 chrisdothall oleonard: will do :)
20:17 cait I noted it on the wiki
20:17 cait and plz - can someone fix the language detection?
20:17 oleonard Something to add to the template toolkit test page on the wiki?
20:16 cait was about to look up the package name from my wiki :)
20:16 cait yeah, got that too
20:16 rangi yeah apt-get install libtemplate-perl
20:16 cait ah
20:16 Brooke_ ahoy hoy
20:16 wizzyrea_ hi brooke
20:16 oleonard Can't locate Template.pm in @INC
20:16 oleonard I just tried checking out template_test and I can't even log in
20:15 cait you are welcome
20:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit32: Updating Version Number to 3.02.03.001 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ab83557b562c3672b90acc6938e6f9c6d66dc4e> / Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=050b55f2ab1b2f65a9ce903d31d22cce8208b849> / Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko
20:14 chrisdothall cait: awesome, thanks again :)
20:14 cait yep
20:14 cait ype
20:13 chrisdothall cait: comma problem gone?
20:13 cait works :)
20:13 cait yep
20:13 hudsonbot Starting build 94 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:13 chrisdothall cait: sorry, that will work fine :)
20:12 cait hm?
20:12 chrisdothall cait: awesome works
20:11 cait ok, git fetch git rebase catalyst/template_test - right?
20:11 chrisdothall cait: with the comma problem fixed (hopefully :p )
20:11 chrisdothall cait: just pushed the fixed templates to template_test now
20:11 oleonard http://nnvl.noaa.gov/MediaDetail.php?MediaID=640&MediaTypeID=1&sms_ss=twitter&at_xt=4d4859aadf12521d,0
20:10 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 4.0�C (2:55 PM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
20:10 oleonard @wunder 45701
20:10 wizzyrea_ uh, if that's light freezing fog then I don't know what snow looks like
20:09 huginn wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -8.7�C (2:12 PM CST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). Blizzard Warning in effect until 6 am CST Wednesday...
20:09 wizzyrea_ @wunder lawrence, ks
20:09 cait I will be around for another 30 minutes I think
20:08 chrisdothall cait: I should be able to get the comma thing fixed in a few minutes if you have time now?
20:07 cait you can also write me a mail
20:07 cait let me know if you want me to test something, send a screenshot whatever
20:07 cait ok
20:07 cait hehe
20:07 chrisdothall cait: yea thats a problem caused by my conversion script. was looking at this section suspiciously yesterday, suspicion confirmed :)
20:06 cait checked in master too, it's , there
20:06 cait yep
20:05 chrisdothall cait: is something of the form a,b becomming acommab?
20:05 cait the comma in the value should actually be a ,
20:05 cait I think it's a "translation" problem
20:05 cait can you take a look at the patron search?
20:04 cait ok, I have reset it to local
20:04 cait chrisdothall: was not sure if it's a general problem so noted the pages where i tried it
20:04 chrisdothall cait: for the yuipath, I beleive the "from yahoo" setting is broken (on yahoos end) so the local ones *should* be the best for every test.
20:03 chrisdothall cait: the date picker problem for tools/viewlog is also appearing elsewhere. Thanks again for this :)
20:03 cait chrisdothall: tried "from Yahoo" - no change for borrower account
20:01 huginn moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -11.0�C (2:04 PM CST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030.0 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 PM CST this evening...
20:01 moodaepo @wunder 56001
20:01 cait see lots of problems there
20:01 cait yeah, the borrower templates... are not the best
20:00 chrisdothall cait: sadly its highly likely
19:59 cait perhaps a template problem in borrowers
19:59 cait most toolbars work, so I think it's not a general problem
19:59 cait np :)
19:59 chrisdothall cait: thanks :)
19:59 cait yui local: still no toolbar
19:57 cait but I will check the toolbar for borrowers
19:57 cait it's still the same as yesterday
19:56 chrisdothall cait: the yuipath setting should/could have affected your other entries concerning any menus / buttons.
19:56 gmcharlt after package configuration tweaks a couple settings in .gitconfig, user can then do a git fetch to update
19:56 cait the pup date limit disappears/appears
19:55 jcamins_irssi gmcharlt: oh, that makes sense.
19:55 chrisdothall cait: awesome thanks cait :)
19:55 gmcharlt jcamins_irssi: you could, but since there's nothing special about the layout of a git repo, you could just as easily make a debian package that includes a local copy of the repo
19:55 cait and/or/not and an option to duplicate the search fields should show up
19:55 cait yes, there should be more
19:54 chrisdothall cait: the only change I see when using fewer/more is the "limits" section appearing/disappearing
19:54 jcamins_irssi gmcharlt: wouldn't it be better to use git?
19:54 cait and the search index list is the same for both settings
19:53 cait it changes from more to fewer and back, but i get no boolean values
19:53 cait problems still stand - the OR groups thing and the more/fewer options
19:53 cait chrisdothall: no change for adv search
19:52 cait did a <strike>
19:52 rangi one of those anyway
19:52 rangi <del></del> or <strike>
19:51 cait how do you hm strike(?) something in mediawiki?
19:51 chrisdothall cait: could you also please check catalogue/search 'fewer options' and 'more options' having no effect
19:51 huginn rangi: chris_n was last seen in #koha 15 minutes and 27 seconds ago: <chris_n> jcamins_irssi: no... my blame-taking mode is write only... ;-)
19:51 rangi @seen chris_n
19:51 cait chrisdothall: is there more? :)
19:51 rangi chris_n: its a new feature (the privacy bit was taken out befor the 3.2.0 release)
19:51 rangi chris_n: im not sure you want to pull 3881 to 3.2.x
19:50 chrisdothall cait: haha that is actually good news :)
19:50 cait not sure what happened yesterday, perhaps a special constellation of things
19:49 cait chrisdothall: grr. now it works. I will delete the line from the wiki
19:49 rangi yeah
19:49 gmcharlt not *quite* full packaged, as it it would still require somebody to do an apt-get koha-dev first, but such a thing would be easy to maintain
19:48 cait let me check something
19:48 cait changed the yuisystempreference - got the box
19:48 jcamins_irssi gmcharlt: I'd think we'd need something that included X, though, if people might be booting off the disk.
19:48 cait yep, I have that one
19:48 chrisdothall sorry, up to date not data.
19:48 chrisdothall cait: template_test is still the most 'up to data' as far as the conversion goes
19:48 gmcharlt that could be closer than you might think - debian live CD modified to add Koha's deb apt repo + some tweaks have dev-mode install as a packaged option
19:47 cait chrisdothall: have created a new branch from catalyst now to get recent changes - is there a specific one? I have some time to retest
19:47 jcamins_irssi I mean, I have no idea how to make a live CD, but getting the answer was easy.
19:47 chrisdothall cait: for example: admin/preferences pop up box. I have both the pop up box as well as the black box at the bottom that brings up the gray area full of messages.
19:47 jcamins_irssi That's easy.
19:47 jcamins_irssi Okay, sekjal says live CD.
19:47 rangi ahh
19:47 jcamins_irssi Or an OVF.
19:47 jcamins_irssi rangi: like, you have a live CD for testing Koha.
19:47 sekjal I'd like to have a Koha .iso that folks can download, spin up, and git-pull the latest patches for testing
19:46 cait chrisdothall: which one?
19:46 cait I think we are confusing rangi :)
19:46 rangi live-testing as in?
19:46 rangi who what where?
19:46 jcamins_irssi rangi: sekjal: someone mentioned a live-testing environment. How do you envision that working? Bootable CD? OVF?
19:45 chrisdothall cait: awesome. Local is perfect. Some of your bugs I can't seem to duplicate locally.
19:45 cait want me to change to ' from Yahoo's own servers?'
19:45 cait you suggested changing the yuipath to local - I checked my database - already had that setting
19:45 nengard jcamins there are lots of tools - i use screenflow
19:44 chrisdothall hey cait :)
19:44 cait hi chrisdothall :)
19:43 cait could change to from Yahoo's own servers if he wants me to
19:43 cait he wrote on the wiki I should try if this setting makes the problems go away - but I already had the local files while testing
19:42 rangi cool
19:42 cait sure
19:42 cait (19:46:43) rangi: cait: did the yui change work for u?
19:42 rangi cait: chris hall has just arrived, will you have 10 mins to have a chat with him if i get him on here?
19:42 rangi ?
19:41 cait rangi:...see above
19:41 cait chris: my yuipatch was included with koha all the time
19:40 jcamins_irssi How do you do your instructional videos?
19:40 jcamins_irssi Well, looks like I have to start over from scratch.
19:39 jcamins_irssi nengard: you were saying you wanted a video of someone setting up a testing environment.
19:36 jcamins_irssi It was worth a try.
19:36 jcamins_irssi Ah well.
19:36 chris_n jcamins_irssi: no... my blame-taking mode is write only... ;-)
19:35 jcamins_irssi chris_n: if I blame you for my VirtualBox dying, will you tell me how to fix it?
19:35 nengard hiya
19:35 cait hi nengard
19:34 chris_n slef: gmcharlt was correct... that was an attempt to hold up a large flag
19:34 * cait blames chris_n for not having finished the clone and timemachine modules ;)
19:34 * chris_n is feeling pretty resilient atm
19:33 gmcharlt s/your/you for/
19:33 chris_n oh, anything you'd like someone to blame something on
19:33 gmcharlt chris_n: I blame your contributing entirely too much good code to Koha
19:33 hdl whatever what ?
19:33 cait oh, so it was you?
19:32 * chris_n crawls out of the wood work to take the blame for whatever
19:32 hdl hi indradg
19:32 indradg hdl, hi
19:07 gmcharlt not without trawling through the commit logs and/or testing
19:06 slef gmcharlt: IOW no, we're not sure.
19:06 gmcharlt other (particularly Encode) represent real minimums
19:06 gmcharlt slef: hard to say; some may just be the versions that the original dev who added a module was using at the time
19:05 slef There's some there which are in debian stable but an earlier version
19:05 slef Are we sure that the version numbers are required?
19:04 gmcharlt to identify missing deps as well as those requiring an upgrade
19:04 gmcharlt slef: koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u
19:03 slef I don't want to do the whole Q+A again.
19:03 slef can someone remind me how to rerun the dependency check, please?
19:03 slef I wonder why that one didn't build on my first attempt, though :-/
19:02 gmcharlt slef: right
19:02 slef gmcharlt: oh, I see, dependencies are no longer in Makefile.PL in 3.2
18:52 gmcharlt slef: I think it was just an effort to make sure that users didn't miss a dependency that would break overdue notices if not installed
18:52 slef gmcharlt: it doesn't predate Makefile.PL. I wonder why it's in updatedatabase.pl instead, or if it's a mistake.
18:49 rangi That's cool
18:49 jcamins_irssi Apparently VirtualBox isn't ACPI-compliant.
18:49 cait will try to test later
18:49 cait rangi: sorry, got home late, still eating my dinner
18:43 rangi cait: did the yui change work for u?
18:41 cait hi liw
18:40 rangi You found us liw :)
18:37 * liw waves
18:37 wizzyrea_ hey liw :)
18:36 jcamins Let's try a restart.
18:36 jcamins Uh-oh. VirtualBox just committed suicide.
18:33 wizzyrea_ sekjal++ for fixing the on order bug
18:29 indradg hi cait
18:19 * cait waves to jcamins :)
18:19 * jcamins waves to cait
18:16 cait hi all
18:13 gmcharlt nowadays answer is probably to chnage updatedatabase.pl to run a module check whenever it runs and report back
18:13 slef biab
18:13 gmcharlt slef: I think that might predate C4::I::PerlModule
18:12 slef chris_n: is there a reason for that to be in updatedatabase.pl not Makefile.PL?
18:12 slef git blames chris_n
18:11 slef lines 3498-
18:10 slef it's a handcoded notice
18:10 slef see $DBversion = '3.01.00.119' in updatedatabase.pl
18:09 rangi bbiab
18:08 gmcharlt right
18:08 rangi right, so should be the same eh?
18:08 gmcharlt rangi: it's all routed through C4::Installer::PerlModule nowadays
18:06 rangi does Makefile.PL not use the same dependencies file as the the web installer
17:57 slef bbi30
17:57 slef updatedatabase.pl errors not a known bug
17:55 slef Locale::Currency::Format notice not a known bug
17:54 slef I'll go search bugs and report if not.
17:53 slef Other odd thing during upgrade: the web installer noted "The Locale::Currency::Format package is not installed on your system or not found in @INC." but that's not in Makefile.PL
17:52 slef atz: ditto
17:51 atz slef: uh, joking, dude.
17:51 slef we should have linked to an AFF site in the announcement. Then more people would pay attention to it.
17:51 slef yeah, hiding by announcing it on lists, identi.ca, twitter, ...
17:50 oleonard No one can elude atz forever
17:50 wizzyrea_ j/k <3
17:50 wizzyrea_ we were hiding from you
17:50 atz so *this* is where you've been hiding out, eh?
17:47 slef I just got a lot of updatedatabase errors upgrading from 3.0 to 3.2 - is that a known problem?
17:46 jcamins gmcharlt: thanks!
17:45 pastebot0 "gmcharlt" at 68.101.78.67 pasted "for jcamins" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/132
17:41 gmcharlt jcamins: sure, one sec
17:40 jcamins No, I like it. I wanted to steal whatever you did for the manual.
17:40 jcamins gmcharlt: ah. Ummm… how?
17:40 gmcharlt in any event, rangi and I can change it
17:40 gmcharlt jcamins: IIRC, I did
17:40 jcamins That makes it match the rest of the website.
17:40 jcamins The header.
17:39 rangi what part of it?
17:38 jcamins Who set up debian.koha-community.org?
17:36 nengard yes
17:35 indradg nengard, back from lunch? :)
17:32 nengard identify
17:26 jcamins :)
17:26 jcamins something very cynical.
17:26 jcamins And DSSSL (or however many 'S's there are) was designed to crush the hope of youth and replace it with the cynicism of...
17:24 wizzyrea_ ^^
17:23 jcamins It's a kind of slow process since DocBook really wasn't designed with attractive output in mind. ;)
17:22 jcamins I'm working on the manual stuff.
17:21 wizzyrea_ yes, def what I'm using
17:18 wizzyrea_ (but I'm double checking)
17:18 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add keyboard shortcuts
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17:18 wizzyrea_ yea that's what I'm using
17:17 pastebot0 "rangi" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "building pdf" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/131
17:11 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add keyboard shortcuts
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17:10 nengard k
17:09 rangi unless someone wants to give me money to buy more space
17:09 rangi im about out of space on my linnode
17:09 indradg good evening folks
17:09 rangi hudson cant do much more
17:08 wizzyrea_ I don't have an opinion on the matter really
17:08 nengard that's all I was asking
17:08 nengard wizzyrea, i know, but if hudson can do it that would be awesome - right?
17:08 nengard rangi the pdf is missing images - wizzyrea had done something special to get them to work
17:07 wizzyrea_ you have all the stuff you need to do it yourself, or jared does anyway.
17:07 nengard rangi if it wasn't in WP could we do it?
17:07 nengard and i don't think it's updating weekly
17:06 nengard wizzyrea - yes I did - but i thought I'd check
17:06 wizzyrea_ yep
17:06 rangi cos the html is stuck straight into wordpress
17:06 wizzyrea_ ok, back in the dizzle you told me that weekly was often enough
17:06 rangi not really
17:06 nengard rangi++
17:06 nengard and i agrree
17:06 nengard now the pdf is newer than the html :)
17:06 nengard wizzyrea rangi can we automate the html generation that way?
17:06 wizzyrea_ oh now we're going to have to combine our karmas :P
17:05 wizzyrea_ rangi++
17:05 wizzyrea_ hudson++
17:05 wizzyrea_ will change the links
17:05 nengard ignore me
17:05 nengard sorry
17:05 jcamins Lunch time!
17:05 nengard which is that?
17:05 wizzyrea_ woot okies ty
17:05 rangi http://download.koha-community.org/manual_pdf/
17:04 wizzyrea_ ;)
17:04 nengard wizzyrea :)
17:04 jwagner So it's not possible :-(
17:04 oleonard jwagner: TMPL vars are processed on the server side, jquery is processed on the client side
17:04 wizzyrea_ i knew you were going to do that, I don't think.. what she said
17:04 nengard i just don't know where it's storing them for linking
17:04 jwagner shows up but is trying to literally send TMPL_VAR_NAME instead of the contents
17:04 nengard i knew that
17:03 rangi nengard and wizzyrea_ you know that hudson is building all the pds now eh?
17:03 jwagner $("#moresearches").prepend("<a href=\'http://worldcat.org/search?q=\<\!\-\- TMPL_VAR NAME=\"title\" \-\-\>\\' target=\"_blank\">Worldcat</a> <span class='pipe'> | ");
17:03 jwagner Hrm. I may not need to do a patch or use those variables. oleonard, do you know how to embed a TMPL_VAR in a jquery statement?
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16:54 jwagner OK, thanks. I'll peck at it when I get a chance.
16:54 gmcharlt jwagner: sounds good to me
16:54 * wizzyrea_ didn't see the original question
16:53 jwagner Hearing no objection....
16:46 jwagner I want to add ISSN (because it probably should be there) and also biblionumber for a specialized use for one of my clients.
16:45 jwagner I'd like to add a couple of variables, and make them available anywhere on the opac-detail page, so I can use them in a masthead link. Anyone see any problems with that?
16:45 nengard yes
16:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1934 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, Customize "Search for this title in..." links
16:45 jwagner nengard and anyone else, on Bug 1934 and subsequent revisions, it looks like those variables are only available for use inside the More Searches block. Is that correct?
16:27 sekjal may not solve it all out the gate, but it'll give a more solid structure for fixing things
16:27 sekjal I'm convinced the holds rewrite will help
16:27 oleonard Hence the brokenness :(
16:26 sekjal looks a bit more intense than that
16:25 sekjal dang... I was hoping this was one I could bang out today
16:25 kf meaningful_message++
16:25 sekjal and preventing Multi Hold from going over
16:25 sekjal oh, and updating the templates to show a meaningful message when the max allowed is hit
16:25 kf ok, now you lost me ;)
16:24 sekjal so, the fix would involve adding to that table, adding a C4::Reserves subroutine to get the max allowed given a borrowernumber, and then inserting that check into opac/opac-reserve.pl, reserve/request.pl and Utility.pm
16:23 sekjal kf: yeah, that'd be better
16:23 kf have one per rule per library/itemtype/borrowercategory and a separate one for borrowercategory?
16:22 kf hm, I think in principle it should work like the maximum number of checkouts?
16:20 oleonard For us, it would be better to have a real, enforced, total maximum than a limit which was unenforced in some situations
16:19 sekjal oleonard: would adding maxreserves back in as a valid system preference solve the problem? I mean, of course it'd be less flexible, but would it work partially?
16:14 kmkale bye all. good night
16:14 kf have you seen chris hall's comment about yui on top of my table?
16:12 kf the templates will be converted already, so you don't have to run a script of something
16:12 kf so you have to add that to your remote repos first
16:11 kf from the catalyst repo
16:11 kf oleonard: I checked out template_test
16:11 oleonard kf: Here
16:11 wahanui kf: I forgot here
16:11 kf forget here
16:10 wahanui here is a tidbit- inspite of the disaster Butte migrated to 3.2.1
16:10 kf olenonard: still here?
16:10 oleonard Because if our limit for each itemtype is 5 and we have 5 itemtypes, we may still want to limit the total to 10, not 25
16:09 oleonard Yes
16:09 sekjal across all itemtypes
16:09 sekjal and the Holds Allowed values in Circ rules specify how many are allowed on a specific itemtype; we need some kind of limit on the total for the patron
16:07 oleonard You can place multiple holds at once and exceed the limit
16:07 oleonard For instance, if your total number of holds is below the limit
16:07 oleonard Right now the limit is in effect only some of the time
16:07 oleonard Yes
16:06 sekjal and preferrably, on a branchcode/categorycode basis?
16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, No check for maximum number of allowed holds.
16:06 sekjal oleonard: for bug 4045, is the goal for the library to be able to specify how many total holds requests a patron can place?
16:00 oleonard Did you check it out as a branch on your existing installation?
16:00 oleonard kf: What process did you follow to test Template Toolkit?
15:44 oleonard (or will replace, anyway)
15:44 oleonard jqueryUI replaces YUI javascript, not yui CSS grids
15:43 oleonard Nope
15:43 hdl oleonard: you worked on jqueryUI, is that not a replacement
15:43 oleonard yui grids++ until I see a better replacement
15:42 hdl yui grids--
15:41 kmkale or with custom left margins? may not scale
15:41 oleonard It's not a simple fix
15:41 oleonard At least not without a lot of CSS re-writing
15:40 oleonard kmkale: I don't think you can, because of the way the logo, cart, and list buttons are floated
15:35 kmkale actually opac-main-search
15:33 kmkale trying to center the header-wrapper
15:31 kmkale oh, i was looking at text-align: center
15:31 oleonard That centers it on the page
15:30 oleonard In the grids CSS, #doc4 is given "margin: auto"
15:29 kmkale I am looking here http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/grids/grids-doc4.html but cant figure it out
15:29 oleonard Koha uses the YUI Grids CSS framework, and the doc4 ID means a different layout configuration
15:28 oleonard http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/builder/
15:28 kmkale ??
15:28 kmkale oleonard: if have time can you tell me how changing to doc4 centered the page
15:04 jwagner oleonard, 30 char is better than 10 char :-)
15:03 jcamins Aww. Thanks.
15:03 druthb you're already memorable, jcamins. :)
15:03 * jcamins wonders whether he should switch to using his full last name, just to make sure everyone remembered him. ;)
15:02 oleonard 30 character limit
15:01 jwagner No it doesn't. That's nice :-)
15:01 jwagner Hey, does this IRC server have the limitation on nicknames?
14:42 kmkale just added that to opacuserjs & good to go :) thanks again owen
14:38 kmkale amazing one liners you come up with
14:37 * oleonard doesn't get many opportunities to tinker with the OPAC these days
14:36 oleonard You're quite welcome :)
14:36 kmkale oleonard++
14:36 kmkale thanks a lot
14:36 kmkale : hey oleonard you are a magician
14:35 kmkale trying
14:35 oleonard Sorry kmkale, that should have been $("#doc3").attr("id","doc4");
14:30 * oleonard frowns
14:29 kmkale oleonard: $("#doc3").attr("id","#doc4"); moved it to right.
14:28 oleonard And check out this for other options: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/builder/
14:28 oleonard Try $("#doc3").attr("id","#doc4");
14:25 * oleonard tries to remember...
14:25 kmkale oleonard: one more question. Any trick to get the nav and main blocks to center on page?
14:24 kmkale ok. That works. And I have to rework the central block if I am to use it.
14:21 kmkale oleonard: trying it now
14:16 kmkale sorry had to take a call
14:09 oleonard That works from the Firebug console.
14:09 oleonard kmkale: $(".yui-ge div.yui-u").removeClass();
14:06 oleonard Oh, that works too :)
14:06 oleonard Hmmm... I didn't try changing the class of the login form div container...
14:05 oleonard 2. Removing the "yui-u first" class from the div containing opacmainuserblock
14:04 oleonard 1. Remove the <div> containing the login form
14:04 oleonard kmkale: Tinkering with the source in Firebug, I can get it to work if I do two things
14:01 oleonard kmkale: I've never tried to eliminate that column, so you're in new territory
14:00 jwagner Very nice looking indeed!
14:00 kmkale hey owen coming from you, it feels good
13:59 oleonard Wow kmkale that's fancy!
13:58 kmkale opac.booksandmore.co.in
13:58 kmkale jwagner: Thanks but no. I have moved the login box around using owens trick. now there is a vacant third column. want to get rid of it
13:58 oleonard kmkale: And if that's not what you're trying to do, can you explain further?
13:57 jwagner kmkale, I'm not owen, but if you're just wanting to hide the big login box on the OPAC main page, this jquery should do it: $('#login').hide();
13:54 druthb imma working on catching up with sekjal. But I keep giving him karma, because he's just so darned awesome. Probably not the best strategy for catching up to him.
13:54 tcohen hi #koha
13:53 gmcharlt oleonard: nothing wrong with that
13:53 oleonard Good grief someone lay on some karma for gmcharlt, there's no way I should be ahead of him
13:52 huginn oleonard: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 217 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 213.
13:52 oleonard @karma gmcharlt
13:35 oleonard gmcharlt++
13:35 huginn gmcharlt: Karma for "owen" has been increased 0 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 0.
13:35 gmcharlt @karma owen
13:35 huginn gmcharlt: Karma for "oleonard" has been increased 223 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 218.
13:35 gmcharlt @karma oleonard
13:33 kmkale oleonard: how can I have opac main page with a two column layout? ( without disabling login from syspref )
13:32 huginn druthb: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 60 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 59.
13:32 druthb @karma sekjal
13:32 huginn sekjal: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 54 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 54.
13:32 sekjal @karma druthb
13:31 gmcharlt oleonard: actually, it's me who can move karma around
13:31 huginn hdl: Remainder of title
13:31 hdl @marc 245 b
13:31 huginn hdl: Title
13:31 hdl @marc 245 a
13:31 huginn hdl: unknown tag 245$a
13:31 hdl @marc 245$a
13:31 huginn hdl: unknown tag 245a
13:31 hdl @marc 245a
13:28 huginn oleonard: Karma for "kf" has been increased 40 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 40.
13:28 oleonard @karma kf
13:28 huginn oleonard: Karma for "cait" has been increased 58 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 58.
13:28 oleonard @karma cait
13:28 oleonard I'll bet rangi will sort it out in time. He has done so for other nick changes and ambiguities
13:28 jcamins I guess I'll be typing "oleonard++" a lot if I want to transfer the karma.
13:27 huginn jcamins: Karma for "owen" has been increased 221 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 216.
13:27 jcamins @karma owen
13:27 huginn jcamins: Karma for "oleonard" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
13:27 jcamins @karma oleonard
13:27 jwagner Awww. What about their karma, then???
13:26 druthb Because this server has a NickServ, and their old names were taken.
13:26 jwagner So why do people hide behind new nicknames here???
13:26 oleonard That owen fellow, he was indeed a crazed branch-creating maniac.
13:25 huginn jwagner: Quote #88: "<owen> I'm a crazed branch-creating maniac" (added by jwagner at 07:42 PM, August 06, 2010)
13:25 jwagner @quote random
13:25 jwagner oleonard, it also has quotes :-)
13:23 magnuse oleonard: yup ;-)
13:21 jcamins No fudge. :(
13:21 oleonard This new IRC venue has the weather, that's really all we need isn't it?
13:17 huginn Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is -5.0�C (2:00 PM CET on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
13:17 Ropuch @wunder Wroclaw
13:16 jcamins nengard: ooh, lucky me.
13:16 nengard jcamins your warning is in effect longer than mine ... guess it's heading north
13:14 jwagner Ya know, I finally understand why people have this urge to move to Florida, or Arizona, or the tropics. I'm getting tired of this stuff....
13:11 druthb ;-) It's okay.. I'm staying inside anyway.
13:10 magnuse sorry 'bout that druthb... ;-)
13:07 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is -2.1�C (8:06 AM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 7 PM EST Wednesday...
13:07 jcamins @wunder 11375
13:04 druthb Warmer in Bodo than it is here. How rude!
13:04 magnuse g'day jcamins
13:03 magnuse looks more like snow to me...
13:03 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0�C (1:50 PM CET on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Steady).
13:03 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway
13:02 jcamins Good morning, #koha
12:53 nengard Bleh!!
12:53 huginn nengard: The current temperature in CWOP # AR939, Penndel, Pennsylvania is -3.3�C (7:56 AM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Freezing Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 4 PM EST Wednesday...
12:53 nengard @wunder 19030
12:50 kf I knew 2 horizon servers called hugin and munin
12:46 * magnuse wonders how they are pronounced in english...
12:45 magnuse hdl: yeah, those are pretty good pronounciations :-)
12:45 magnuse kf: it's not used in norwegian... http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugin_og_Munin
12:44 kf so is there ar eason for the double n?
12:43 hdl http://fr.forvo.com/search/hugin/
12:43 hdl got it http://fr.forvo.com/word/munin/
12:42 magnuse hdl: with a long u and a shorter i - hard to explain...
12:40 hdl But I will add sanitization to koha-zebra too
12:40 druthb She is.
12:40 slef For some reason, I assume Adrea is female. Curious.
12:40 hdl slef: this will be the last email from her...
12:40 slef argh! Adrea Lund is out of the office again. Anyone with list-admin powers to boot her from koha-zebra? hdl?
12:38 hdl hi kmkale druthb
12:38 kmkale hi hdl
12:37 hdl hi slef
12:37 hdl magnuse: how do you say munin
12:37 druthb hi, slef. :)
12:37 kmkale hey slef
12:37 slef hi all
12:37 kmkale magnuse: e?
12:36 magnuse hugin and munin were the ravens of odin in norse mythology...
12:35 wahanui hdl is, like, sure that Croswalking records in zebra is also ram demanding
12:35 magnuse hdl?
12:34 kf espresso time
12:34 kf *rollseyes* ok
12:34 kf you can teach him something else
12:34 wahanui i think cait is a competent programmer AND really sweet.
12:34 druthb wahanui: cait?
12:33 * druthb pouts.
12:33 wahanui kf: I forgot kf
12:33 kf forget kf
12:33 kmkale It reflected a Indic word Munim which is a sorta secretary / man friday
12:33 wahanui kf is probably an excellent cook: she makes tasty königsberger klopse mit salzkartoffeln
12:33 druthb wahanui: kf?
12:33 wahanui thanks kf :)
12:33 kf wahanui botsnack cookie
12:33 kf ibot = wahanui
12:33 kf munin = huginn
12:33 kmkale I liked that one.
12:33 kmkale aw where is munin?
12:33 kf is there a meaning to that?
12:32 kf but huginn?
12:32 jwagner Glad to see the bots made the trip...
12:32 huginn druthb: Quote #54: "<@gmcharlt> from my POV, bug wrangling expands to fill all available volunteers" (added by jwagner at 08:05 PM, February 09, 2010)
12:32 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -4.2�C (1:35 PM CET on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Steady).
12:32 druthb @quote random
12:32 kf @wunder Konstanz
12:32 huginn jwagner: The current temperature in Burning Tree Estates, Bethesda, Maryland is -2.6�C (7:35 AM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon EST today...
12:32 jwagner @wunder 20817
12:32 huginn kf: Quote #97: "chris_n shakes his fist (again) in the direction of Redmond" (added by wizzyrea at 03:21 PM, October 08, 2010)
12:32 kf @quote random
12:32 huginn kf: Quote #62: "<fallor> is this a known thingy?" (added by gmcharlt at 01:18 PM, February 26, 2010)
12:32 kf @quote random
12:32 kmkale :)
12:31 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #108: "<owen> As Pee-wee said, Everyone I know has a big 'but'" (added by druthb at 03:20 PM, November 30, 2010)
12:31 gmcharlt @quote random
12:23 kf :)
12:23 kf huh thx
12:21 * hdl gives kf a cookie
12:21 kf perhaps lunch ;)
12:19 hdl magnus_away: ?
12:17 * kf gives druthb a cookie
12:15 * druthb starts her day with a "harrrumph!"
10:45 inpiki Ok. Thanks. Tryng in the long way.
10:18 magnuse inpiki: installing "manually" is a great way to learn more about the innards of koha, and i don't think the packages have much support for choosing other languages than english yet (i might be wrong, though)
10:15 kf_mtg hi inpiki
10:05 inpiki Ok. Thanks and Good Night. It's Breakfast Time for me (in Italy).
10:01 rangi right sleep time for me
10:00 * rangi uses packages for all his production machines, but for learning it might be better doing it the long way
10:00 inpiki I'll let you know.
10:00 rangi if you want
10:00 inpiki I don't know. Should I use packages? I think it's better to install step by step.
09:59 rangi yes
09:58 inpiki Do you mean "install koha with APT-GET" directly.
09:57 rangi are you using the packages?
09:57 inpiki ....starting the installation just now.....
09:56 inpiki Thank you.
09:56 rangi 64 bit is fine
09:56 inpiki I don't know if I can use 64-bit Debian or it's better to use 32-bit version
09:56 kmkale inpiki: debian
09:56 rangi debian squeeze has all the dependencies packaged, and koha itself is packaged for it at debian.koha-community.org
09:55 inpiki Is there someone who can help me to choose a distribution for koha 3.2 installation?
09:54 inpiki Hi to everybody and thanks for your work.
09:46 rangi http://topicfire.com/share/Egypt-protests-live-updates-16721704.html
09:09 kmkale brb
09:08 kmkale been looking for owen last couple of days. Guess our times dont match in here
09:06 rangi i dont im afraid
09:06 rangi owen would probably know
09:00 kmkale any idea how I can get a two column layout in opac main page? ( while retaining the login form; I know if we disable login from syspref we get a two column layout.)
08:54 kmkale hi kf
08:54 kf hi kmkale
08:53 kmkale hi rangi
08:53 rangi wb kmkale
08:49 rangi thats why i said "good luck"
08:48 rangi im not sure the person realises quite how big a job it is
08:48 rangi yeah exactly
08:48 fredericd rangi: part of this enhancement means rewriting Pootle...
08:48 rangi yes, dangerous
08:47 kf and it will need to have right to write files on the server
08:47 rangi not really no
08:47 kf and I think some of the process will change with template toolkit?
08:47 rangi good luck to them writing that :)
08:47 kf it's new
08:46 rangi hmm nope i hadnt seen that bug either kf
08:46 fredericd the scope of this enhancement confuses me...
08:46 fredericd kf: no
08:45 rangi 18.108.178.71.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer pool-71-178-108-18.washdc.east.verizon.net.
08:45 rangi host 71.178.108.18
08:45 rangi yes we do
08:45 magnuse and do we know anything about that IP?
08:44 kf rangi: hm yes
08:43 rangi but i fully expect them to try again
08:43 rangi which the wikipedia bots spotted as vandalism and reverted
08:42 rangi i was showing people https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Koha_%28software%29&action=historysubmit&diff=411310073&oldid=411023380
08:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5678 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Translations Manager
08:42 kf rangi, fredericd: seen bug 5678
08:42 magnuse ah
08:42 rangi better kf?
08:42 kf wikipedia article about koha
08:41 magnuse kf: where did you get the quote about windows?
08:40 magnuse hiya kf and rangi
08:40 rangi hi Ropuch
08:40 kf oh and morning magnuse of course :)
08:39 magnusenger g'day Ropuch
08:39 kf hi Ropuch :)
08:39 Ropuch Morning #koha
08:38 rangi ?
08:38 kf 'Although it's recommended that Koha be run on a Linux server[10], it will also work on Windows, provided that Apache, MySQL, and Perl are installed first'
08:38 kf and the file for that - is this still accurate? sounds a bit too easy for me.
08:38 kf hm, the part about windoes
08:34 rangi luckily the wikipedia bots caught it
08:34 rangi 2 guesses who that was
08:33 rangi 18.108.178.71.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer pool-71-178-108-18.washdc.east.verizon.net.
08:33 rangi host 71.178.108.18
08:33 rangi https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Koha_(software)&action=history
08:25 kf ouch
08:23 rangi eek
08:23 paul_p our hosting server down again :((((
08:23 paul_p hi rangi.
08:23 rangi hi paul_p and hdl
08:20 paul_p morning kf
08:17 kf hi biblibre
08:06 kf can access from every computer easily that way and it documented in bugzilla
08:06 fredericd ok
08:06 kf fredericd: if you attach it to the bug I will be happy
08:05 fredericd kf: I will send you the patch directly by email
08:05 kf thx fredericd, I will test yours in the evening
08:03 rangi *nod*
08:03 fredericd yes, and it has been also easy to update it for testing
08:02 rangi its easier for me to update the number when i merge it to master
08:01 rangi yes please
08:01 fredericd do I send it back without modifying koha version number? (for rangi )
08:01 fredericd 5431 works for me
08:00 fredericd I see, great
07:59 kf thx chris
07:59 rangi go together
07:59 wahanui 10853
07:59 rangi 5422 and 5431
07:59 fredericd which is displayed 'city, state'
07:59 kf or yes - until my branch goes through qa
07:59 kf no
07:58 fredericd but for borrower, we just have one field city,
07:58 kf right
07:58 fredericd So there are 2 separate fields: one for city and one for state
07:58 kf yes
07:58 fredericd kf: With your patch, there is a new field in branches table for state
07:54 rangi yep
07:54 kf or make a include or something, there are various places where address information is shown
07:52 kf ok, so I think this is something for later
07:51 rangi we could
07:49 kf rangi: do you know if we could use one of the 'filters' to define different address formats with template toolkit?
07:49 kf I think ieven German and french address formats differ - but this is probably something we should do after the template toolkit change
07:48 kf I think we will need to define a different address format for europeans
07:48 kf and would be happy if you could take a look at the state things
07:48 kf ok, i will write me a note
07:48 kf ah I see
07:47 kf let me check the bug for questions
07:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5431 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Separate state field for library addresses
07:46 fredericd In exchange, I will give a try to bug 5431...
07:46 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #331: FIXED in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/331/
07:46 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed!
07:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4103 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Intranet search page should always defaults 'Individual Libraries' to all for superlibrarian
07:45 fredericd bug 4103
07:44 kf fredericd: could try tonight - what is it?
07:44 rangi cool
07:43 fredericd rangi: I've send a patch to fix a small bug in updatedatabase.pl which throw a warning during update
07:43 rangi hi fredericd
07:42 fredericd kf: would you sign-off a patch?
07:42 fredericd hello there
07:34 kf because they found the other process to slow on the circ desk
07:34 kf I have one library doing fast adds - at the moment they use the notes fields
07:34 rangi yep
07:34 kf that would make it really quick
07:34 kf and have item and basic titel information on one screen for fast adds
07:33 kf yep we should :)
07:33 rangi we should do it
07:33 rangi that could be done with some jquery
07:33 kf it's more complicated in koha right now
07:33 kf which pops up when you scan in an unknwon barcode
07:33 kf but not the fast add they describehere
07:32 kf yes
07:32 rangi like fast add, audible alerts, anonymize patrons etc
07:32 rangi theres a bunch we have
07:31 kf I want a lot of those things for koha .)
07:31 rangi they did well
07:31 rangi yep
07:31 kf http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=feature_list_2_0
07:31 kf the evergreen 2.0 feature list is quite impressive
07:31 rangi yup
07:31 kf hope someone takes time to look at it
07:30 kf thx
07:30 rangi to an awaiting_qa branch, so should be easy to be signed off
07:30 rangi pushed 5431 up
07:28 kf thx rangi
07:27 rangi wb kf
07:27 kf good morning #koha
07:20 hudsonbot Starting build 331 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #329 51 min ago)
07:19 hudsonbot rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
07:19 rangi !hudson build koha_master now
07:18 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
07:18 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100
07:18 hudsonbot * Reed Wade: Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers
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06:53 hudsonbot Starting build 330 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:52 hudsonbot Owen Leonard: Revised fix for Bug 3850 - Budget Planning Pages Need Design Work
06:52 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #329: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/329/
06:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18b1d5c30ffe3c01413e50a97ac9d90149621550> / Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e74643b902338caa123de8a2d54e8523b8d4245f> / Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitd
06:42 cait ok, bbl :)
06:29 rangi cool
06:28 hudsonbot Starting build 329 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:28 cait I see the comment on the wiki page - will try tonight
06:28 cait morning chris
06:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revised fix for Bug 3850 - Budget Planning Pages Need Design Work <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=86576e7fd234999df3a35493cb997f6d23d72949>
06:26 rangi hi cait
06:17 cait hi #koha
05:48 BobB Will try later.
05:47 BobB Is anyone about?
05:45 BobB Hi #koha - we've found our way to the new irc site. It seems katipo is still down?
03:38 rangi they'll find it :)
03:38 kmkale hi rangi
03:38 rangi hi kmkale
03:38 kmkale apparently the new server has not reached many ppl yet
03:38 kmkale Namaskar #koha
02:26 * LBA waves nighty night
02:24 druthb hi. :)
02:24 rangi heya druthb
02:20 rangi yay
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01:03 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/4604034/900m-Internet-Explorer-users-vulnerable-to-hack
00:32 rangi cool, good enough
00:31 LBA we are going to release our PPT slides with text (not transcripts but statements from each library in response to my questions)
00:29 rangi ahh maybe arcadia will write it up on their blog
00:29 LBA I think there is an archive but I think they make it available only to people who paid to attend...Which sucks. Let me see.
00:28 rangi yeah
00:27 LBA the webinar?
00:25 rangi yeah, was wondering how the session with arcadia went, and if its gonna be put up anywhere?
00:24 LBA Rangi, I'm here. Still want to talk?