Time Nick Message 00:06 moodaepo @wunder 56001 00:06 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -8.1�C (6:08 PM CST on January 24, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). 01:31 hudsonbot Starting build 43 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:46 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #43: SUCCESS in 14 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/43/ 01:46 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add kit icon to XSLT appendix 01:46 hudsonbot Starting build 44 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:00 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #44: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/44/ 02:00 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: break my account into sections 02:01 hudsonbot Starting build 45 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:14 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #45: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/45/ 02:14 hudsonbot * Nicole C. Engard: add section to opac chapter for purchase suggestions 02:14 hudsonbot * Nicole C. Engard: add note about OPAC_SUG value to purchase suggestions 02:44 Brooke kiiia ora 02:45 chris hiya Brooke 02:45 Brooke :) 05:11 wasabi lol, this is gold... 05:11 wasabi '[Koha] Tech consultants worried about the security of a windows server network if linux server with Koha is introduced. . .' 05:12 wasabi will installing a openbsd system introduce any security risks to my win95 network? 05:18 Amit heya all 05:19 wasabi \o amit 05:19 Amit heya mason 05:21 wasabi haay, kohacon11 in india++ :) 06:03 chris wasabi: yeah that was fud i ever saw it 06:03 chris if i even 06:03 chris hi Amit 06:03 Amit heya chris 06:04 Amit kohacon11 in india++ ;) 06:07 wasabi troll-1: dl-0 06:10 Amit wasabi: so r u coming to india if kohacon11 in india? 06:10 wasabi yes :) 06:14 chris dl ? 06:20 chris excuse? 06:20 ibot chris: system consumed all the paper for paging 06:20 chris hi kmkale 06:20 chris its down to 3 now :) 06:22 Amit hi kmkale 06:23 kmkale hi Amit 06:24 kmkale hi chris 06:24 * wasabi waves at kmkale 06:24 kmkale chris I wanted to ask if conference hosting should be an item on the agenda for the irc meeting on 2nd Feb 06:24 kmkale hi wasabi 06:25 chris yeah, pop it on 06:25 Amit kmkale: I think this is better 06:25 kmkale ok 06:25 Amit kmkale: we will support to u. 06:25 Amit for kohacon11 in india 06:25 kmkale Thanks Amit. I had a email from Savitra too 06:26 kmkale been getting emails from a lot of librarian from all over India. Everyone is exited :) 06:26 Amit yes i replied now i m in favour kohacon11 in mumbai 06:27 Amit this is better to meet all the koha developer and people 06:27 chris kmkale: irc meetings are how most things are decided, so definitely put it on the agenda for discussion 06:28 kmkale chris doing that right now 06:29 hudsonbot Starting build 319 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 06:29 chris hmm i wonder what my point of view was :) 06:30 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5619: Subfield 9 missing from most authorised heading fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=09f5786ff21362a4cd722783ccca64ed467fe4da> 06:32 kmkale done http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_Meeting,_2_February_2011#Agenda 06:32 chris cool 06:33 chris ill send out a reminder email about the meeting 06:41 chris done 06:54 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #319: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/319/ 06:54 hudsonbot Ian Walls: Bug 5619: Subfield 9 missing from most authorised heading fields 07:03 chris hi BobB 07:03 BobB Hi Chris 07:04 BobB I'm in Brisbane for Linux Conf. Very hot and humid but at least we are above the water line. 07:04 chris yeah, sounds like they did a good job finding an alternative venue on short notice 07:06 BobB The organisers have done an amazing job. They re-planned the conference in 10 days. Very impressive. 07:06 BobB Chris, I want to follow up on a problem that Seth Mayo raised on list this afternoon. Very puzzling. 07:07 chris yeah, the first thing id do is check the items table 07:07 chris make sure the items exist there 07:07 chris and have barcodes 07:07 chris because circulation doesnt care about marc 07:07 BobB Unfortunately I don't have access to his system, but I am certain the barcodes are in 952$p. 07:08 BobB Are you saying that Search will use Marc but circulation doesn't? He can search on barcodes and find his items. 07:08 chris yeah that uses the MARC 07:08 chris circulation uses the items table 07:09 chris so thats what you need to check 07:09 BobB OK, so if there's a problem at Items level the record will be found by Search but won't be recognised at Circulation? 07:09 chris potentially yes 07:10 BobB That's what he is seeing. 07:10 BobB I cannot think of any other reason. 07:11 chris yeah 07:11 wasabi heya BobB 07:11 BobB I'll get him to make the inquiry you suggested and also check that items.barcode is mapped to 952$p. Anything else? 07:12 BobB Hi Mason! 07:12 wasabi potentially goofy padding before/after the barcode too 07:13 wasabi /cgi-bin/koha/admin/koha2marclinks.pl is the place to check 1st 07:13 BobB Which the SQL query should also reveal? 07:13 chris checking the items actually exist and whats in the barcode table is the first thing 07:13 chris if there are either no items, or the items have no barcodes 07:14 chris then the next thing to check is the linkage 07:14 wasabi select * from items where barcode = '99999' etc... 07:14 chris naw, 07:14 chris just select barcode from items limit 10; 07:14 chris is all you need to do first 07:15 chris just to see what is in the barcodes column 07:15 chris then depending on what you find, you have a bunch of things to check next 07:15 wasabi well, id go looking at specific problem bib/item, myself.. 07:15 chris they are all problems 07:16 wasabi sure, so choose one of them, for starters :) 07:17 chris i think thats the long way, you cant rule anything out with only one 07:17 chris first thing you want to check is do the items exist 07:17 wasabi but yeah, it will be the marc-items table linking stuff thats the prob 07:17 chris next, do they have barcodes 07:18 wasabi just compare them to a working sane koha, to detect where its busted 07:18 BobB OK, there's enough for starters. I'll buzz off and ring Seth. Prolly having dinner! 07:18 BobB Thanks heaps you guys. 07:19 wasabi if you imported the bibs using bulkmarcimport.pl you may have a problem 07:20 wasabi im not sure that bulkmarcimport.pl creates the item records 07:21 wasabi so in that situ, zebra searching works, coz its indexed the item records fine... 07:22 wasabi but no actual item rows exist in the items table, for circ to work 07:22 wasabi which is basically what chris.c just said :) 07:24 BobB But bulkmarcimport.pl does create item records, if a 952 field is present? 07:24 wasabi i cant remember, offhand - its been a while since i last used it 07:24 wasabi but im pretty sure it does 07:26 wasabi most of the bibs i've imported using the tool, didnt have item/952 info 07:26 BobB We'll have to wait for Seth to tell us whether items are present. He isn't about at present. I've left a message. 07:28 wasabi anyone else know about bulkimport.pl importing item-level info correctly ? 07:31 chris yeah it works fine 07:32 wasabi cool, i shut up then... 07:34 BobB Gotta go. Will let you know the outcome when I hear back from Seth. 07:34 BobB Thanks again. 07:34 chris cool 07:47 kmkale brb 08:20 praba hi 08:20 praba how to enable email notifications in koha 3.06 08:21 praba i'm getting mail for new registration but don't know how to enable it for overdue, issue, return notices 08:30 chris 3.0.6 you mean? 08:31 praba 4ya exactly 3.0.6.. 08:32 chris look in misc/cronjobs/crontab.example 08:32 chris for the cronjobs you need to set up 08:35 paul_p good morning #koha ! 08:36 paul_p (& good night kiwis ;-) ) 08:39 chris hi paul_p 08:40 praba 4thanks chris.. i ll look into that 08:41 paul_p hi chris. Quite cold in Marseille those days... deep winter is here. I hope your deep summer is fine ;-) 08:41 chris @wunder wellington nz 08:42 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on January 25, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 08:42 chris quite a nice evening tonight 08:42 paul_p @wunder marseille, france 08:42 munin paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 1.0�C (9:30 AM CET on January 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 08:45 * chris is upgrading bugzilla 08:45 chris http://www.bugzilla.org/security/3.2.9/ 08:45 chris in case it goes away, thats why 08:48 chris done 09:34 kf hi #koha 09:48 wasabi http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/01/24/221236/Italian-Consumer-Watchdog-Sues-Microsoft-Over-Windows-Tax 09:48 wasabi 'Most users do not realise that starting the software means you have accepted the end user licence."' 09:49 wasabi lol, is that really true!?! 09:49 wasabi if you've opened your door, you've just bought some steak-knives... 12:18 wasabi oooh, http://juice-project.org/ 12:18 wasabi looks nice... 12:19 wasabi http://code.google.com/p/juice-project/wiki/ScreenShots 12:21 magnus yeah, that is cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha... 12:22 magnus at one time there was an incompatibility with the jquery version used by juice and the one shipped with koha, not sure how that works now 12:39 jwagner Morning, all 12:48 chris_n google-- 12:49 kmkale hi chris_n 12:49 * chris_n thinks this is *not* a good way to start the day 12:49 chris_n hi kmkale 12:49 chris_n google's latest "new" feature set breaks their oid stuff for edu hosted email 12:50 kmkale ouch 12:50 magnus wow, looks like biblibre has lot's of cool stuff coming - i love the possibility to anonymize with cron! 13:20 kf I see ppn mentioned a lot there - interesting for us :) 13:21 magnus kf (hi!): ppn? 13:22 kf hi magnus .) 13:22 kf 001 controlnumber in pica catalogs (afaik) 13:22 kf our union catalog uses that term too 13:23 magnus a ha 13:51 * magnus wanders off to catch a train 13:52 * druthb hands kmkale a strip of Velcro, so he can fasten himself to the room. 14:05 jwagner paul_p, online? 14:07 kf hi jwagner 14:07 jwagner Guten tag, kf 14:38 paul_p hello jwagner, i'm here now ! 14:43 wizzyrea good morning 14:44 jwagner paul_p, do you know specifics about Bug 3571? hdl isn't online or I'd ask him :-) 14:44 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3571 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, AutoTruncation is not allowed alone 14:44 paul_p (hdl is teaching git/patch/perl/ to one of our customers) 14:45 * jwagner would like to take that class :-) 14:46 paul_p jwagner, nope, I don't know anything specific about this bug. We always have Autotruncate=OFF now, because the patrons are in trouble when they don't expect a short word to be autotruncate ! 14:49 jwagner auto truncate is off, but we have a site reporting that wildcard (*) isn't working in advanced search. This was the nearest bugzilla entry I found, so I was hoping :-) 14:49 jwagner Correction, not the * but just truncation in general they're saying doesn't work in advanced search. 14:51 jwagner I haven't dug into the problem deeply yet; searching bugzilla didn't come up with much. 15:01 jwagner Hmm. Has anyone done a git pull this morning & gotten an error in the web installer? My last one went fine, but I'm now getting "updatedatabase.pl: Argument "3.0300XXX" isn't numeric in numeric lt (<) at /home/k32/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 3957." 15:02 jwagner (current head) 15:02 owen Looks like that XXX slipped in by mistake 15:02 paul_p mmm.... 3.0300XXX means it's an unfinished merge. If it's an uptodate fetch, then it means chris means something 15:02 paul_p ( 'morning owen ) 15:03 jwagner I'll try to remember to ping chris later then. 15:03 wizzyrea you could @later him 15:03 wizzyrea that way you dont' have to try to remember 15:09 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07kcmaster * rv3.02.00-591-gfdaf3c6 10/ (installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl kohaversion.pl): Bumping database version 15:09 jwagner wizzyrea, thanks -- brain isn't working too clearly today (nasty migraine is building, sigh) 15:10 jwagner @later tell chris I got an error on my latest git pull against current head, when I ran update database. It said "updatedatabase.pl: Argument "3.0300XXX" isn't numeric in numeric lt (<) at /home/k32/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 3957." 15:10 munin jwagner: The operation succeeded. 15:11 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fdaf3c69e195217d4316483cb919f63b2a5ca72b> 15:15 hudsonbot Starting build 320 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:15 wizzyrea sorry to hear about the headache 15:16 gmcharlt would appear that chris got the message :) 15:16 jwagner Doesn't he EVER sleep???? 15:17 paul_p 'morning gmcharlt (just answered to your mail) 15:17 gmcharlt paul_p: thanks 15:17 paul_p jwagner, yes, he's sleeping. munin is just saying he has registered the request. But still not delivered the message. 15:17 kf jwagner: does not seem so :) 15:17 paul_p he will be delivered when someone with his nick says something 15:19 jwagner Or else he's secretly perfected Clone.pm... 15:21 gmcharlt paul_p: I was referring to the commit announcement 15:21 gmcharlt and the apparent, though scary, revelation that chris can do small bugfixes IN HIS SLEEP! 15:22 paul_p gmcharlt, right ! so either bots are more and more intelligent, or he works in his sleep 15:22 paul_p (or someone else has a git access and silently fixed the problem ;-) ) 15:41 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #320: UNSTABLE in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/320/ 15:41 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Bumping database version 15:42 kf owen: around? 15:42 owen Yes 15:43 kf can you give me a hint? I am trying to replace the content of an element with different text 15:43 kf (translation issue9 15:43 kf <td>Item DUE</td> - I have selected the element, but now I want to change it 15:45 owen $("td").text("New next"); 15:45 kf text 15:45 kf I had html() 15:45 kf thx 15:45 kf owen++ 15:46 owen I'm surprised html() didn't work too 15:48 kf perhaps because I messed up my selector at some point :( 15:49 owen http://visualjquery.com : Manipulation -> Changing Contents 15:51 kf thx 16:13 hudsonbot Starting build 1 for job Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch 16:26 jwagner @later tell chris A later git pull seems to have resolved the updatedatabase error. 16:26 munin jwagner: The operation succeeded. 16:27 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch build #1: SUCCESS in 16 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch/1/ 16:39 paul_p time to go to catch my plane... going to Lille once again ! see you on thursday #koha ! 16:55 wizzyrea safe travels paul_p 16:56 paul_p thx wizzyrea. Small trip (1H15) 17:25 hudsonbot Starting build 46 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:32 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #46: FAILURE in 7 min 24 sec: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/46/ 17:38 cait hi #koha 17:45 jwagner hi cait 17:46 hudsonbot Starting build 47 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #45 15 hr ago) 17:49 cait jcamins: around? 17:50 chris hi cait 17:50 cait hi chris 17:51 cait chris: coworker almost solved my ubuntu problem - it's shift during boot to get into grub :) 17:52 wasabi http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 17:53 wasabi 'Hold down SHIFT to display the hidden menu during boot (formerly ESC is GRUB legacy).' 17:53 wasabi lol, it *was* escape 17:53 cait yeah, confusing 17:53 cait spend a lot of time googling too 17:54 cait hoped jared was here to tell me what to do now :) 17:54 wasabi my ratings thingy running on 3.2.3 17:54 cait wasabi++ 17:54 cait cool :) 17:54 wasabi http://head.kohaaloha.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=a 17:55 owen Nice 17:56 wasabi trying to get it ready for chris this week, before 3.4 cut-off 17:57 wasabi now to push up to github... 17:58 rhcl Hey, the ratings thing looks good 17:58 rhcl wasabi++ 17:59 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed! 17:59 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #47: FIXED in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/47/ 18:04 cait ok, shift worked exactly one time... and now it stopped working 18:06 cait ignore me... found the problem 18:07 wasabi oooh, pushed to github…. 18:08 wasabi https://github.com/KohaAloha/koha/commit/af4e0f2c9fc63012850d0b157a06e246e9739dd9 18:09 Brooke kia ora 18:09 wizzyrea hi brooke 18:13 sekjal my tests for bug 5376 are showing it's no longer present in HEAD. can anyone confirm? 18:13 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5376 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Batch Edit and Delete need Superlibrarian Permissions 18:14 chris woot wasabi 18:15 Brooke ibot: wasabi 18:15 ibot well, wasabi is sleeping 18:15 * chris will look sekjal 18:16 cait whoohoo - repaired my ubuntu installation :) 18:16 chris yay! 18:17 chris yeah thats fixed sekjal 18:18 chris at least thats what my cursory test tell me 18:18 sekjal interesting... still got some folks noticing it, and they're on very recent code 18:18 chris hmmm 18:19 chris but you cant replicate? 18:25 sekjal nope, can't replicate on my machine 18:25 sekjal and comparing the code, it's the same on the batchMod.pl, batchMod-del.tmpl and batchMod-edit.tmpl 18:26 chris C4/Auth.pm 18:26 chris check that 18:26 chris thats where CAN_user_tools_items_batchdel etc 18:26 chris gets set 18:27 lavamind hello, using koha-3.2.2, I'm trying to install translated preferences, but it's not working : running translate -p install <lang>, the *.pref files are created but not translated! (still in English) 18:27 chris what language lavamind ? 18:27 lavamind yet in the .po files, I see there are translations for prefs in that language 18:27 lavamind fr-FR 18:28 chris drop an email to koha-translate@lists.koha-community.org 18:28 cait lavamind: standard install or dev install? 18:28 lavamind cait: standard 18:28 cait there was a bug fixed for standard install - I think in 3.2.3 18:28 cait before it was not working for standard 18:28 chris ahh that might be it 18:28 lavamind oh 18:28 lavamind should I clone from git then ? 18:28 chris you could get 3.2.3 and upgrade 18:29 cait you can update to 3.2.3 that should work too - but have not tested it since it was changed 18:29 chris is it a production system? 18:29 lavamind chris : yes, more or less, it's for teaching 18:30 chris then do a backup or 2 before upgrading :) 18:30 chris cait: can you remember the bug number? 18:30 lavamind the class hasn't started yet, so it's not too bad 18:31 lavamind if you have a commit id that could work too 18:31 chris ill just check it has been fixed (lots of other fixes in 3.2.3 so worth upgrading anyway) 18:31 chris http://koha-community.org/2101koha-3-2-3/ 18:31 cait chris: it was from frederic 18:31 cait perhaps several fixed in one bug 18:31 * chris will look 18:32 cait where are you from lavamind? 18:32 lavamind cait: Montreal, Quebec, Canada 18:32 cait ah 18:32 sekjal chris: aaaah, there's a difference in C4/Auth.pm, but it's the OPAC Public dev.... 18:33 cait that's far away :) 18:33 lavamind cait: yep 'the other side' 18:34 chris ohh, do you know eric begin? 18:34 chris cait: cant find the commit 18:34 lavamind if you want the scoop, I work for a public college and we just dropped Workflows for Koha in the curriculum 18:35 chris lavamind: maybe drop an email to koha-translate@lists.koha-community.org, frederic (a fellow french speaker) is the translation manager 18:35 chris and will see it 18:35 lavamind chris: no, I dont think I know him 18:35 cait chris: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=3f9b09fa0ad06affad1a44ec351178f595316798 18:35 chris and then the answer will be archived for all to see 18:35 chris thanks cait 18:35 lavamind I'm completely new to the Koha community here 18:35 chris ahhh he works for inlibro 18:35 chris s/works/owns/ 18:36 chris http://www.inlibro.com/solutions/koha 18:37 chris and i work with someone who is from quebec city (lives in nz now) .. those the only 2 people from quebec i know :) 18:37 chris lavamind: and that is excellent news about using Koha in the curriculum 18:38 chris eric_b: you awake? :) 18:38 lavamind yes it is, I wish it would have been sooner, because I'm rushing to deploy 50 instances of Koha correctly 18:38 lavamind btw, should I use mod_perl &?? 18:39 chris lavamind/cait: that is exactly the commit you want, and its in 3.2.3 18:39 chris lavamind: koha isnt totally mod_perl safe, having said that there are people using it, im fairly confident the opac can run under mod_perl with no major issues 18:40 chris brice sanchez runs under mod_perl and is happy with it 18:40 lavamind chris: I'll stick to cgi then, performance shouldn't be much of an issue, reliability is more important 18:40 chris *nod* 18:40 chris we are working on it, there are few circular refs and global variables to tidy up 18:41 chris on a different note 18:43 chris I am going to Access in Vancouver at the end of the year http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/ 18:44 lavamind chris: my field is more IT, so I doubt we'll meet there 18:44 chris there is going to be a preconf about FOSS in libraries, which you may or may not want to attend, the conference itself is always great (from all accounts) (I think im speaking during the conference proper too) 18:44 chris lavamind: so is mine 18:44 chris its an IT in libraries conference 18:44 lavamind I see, interesting 18:46 druthb I've heard awesome things about Access. Wonder if I can get Brendan to send me... 18:46 chris im sure you can :) 18:47 * druthb would not turn down another opportunity to see chris, either. :) 18:47 chris ok time for my bus, be back from on the bus, 3g permitting 18:49 lavamind if I want the web installer to propose a language other the English, do I simply need to run misc/translator/translate from the uncompressed install dir? 18:49 lavamind or should I really just install translations _after_ "make install" ? 18:54 fredericd lavamind: install translation before runing the web installer 18:57 lavamind fredericd: ok, yeah, logical :) 18:58 chris Back 19:03 druthb sekjal++ # he's just so *danged* smart! 19:06 cait lavamind: it will select the sample sql files from the language you run the web installer 19:07 lavamind cait: oh, even better! 19:10 sekjal tools/batchMod.pl line 436 19:10 lavamind is it feasible to duplicate a koha site (ie. one.koha.mydomain.com, two.koha.mydomain.com) automatically ? or am I really stuck running perl Makefile.PL every time ? 19:11 lavamind right now I'm thinking that by adjusting koha-http, koha-conf, I could make it work? 19:11 cait sorry, i have no experience with setting up multiple instances on one server 19:11 chris lavamind: yes 19:12 cait ah, and chris is back :) 19:12 chris Use the koha-common debian packages 19:12 chris Then you run koha-create newsite 19:12 chris 50 times 19:13 chris :) 19:13 lavamind whoa, really 19:13 chris Or, you can just do a standard install 19:14 chris Make 50 dbs, 50 apache config, and 50 koha-conf.xml 19:14 chris Copying the first ones 19:14 chris And changing db names and passwords 19:15 chris then they all run from same codebase 19:15 lavamind chris: that's amazing, thank you so much 19:16 chris No worries 19:16 lavamind chris: I saw a page on the wiki about running multiple instance, but it was much more convoluted than that 19:17 chris Yeah sep conf and db 19:17 chris Is all you really need 19:17 cait hi fredericd 19:17 fredericd hi cait 19:17 lavamind and simple to implement in Puppet ;) 19:18 chris The packages do things like cron jobs etc too 19:18 chris And zebra 19:18 chris You will need to get 50 zebra instances running, so you will want to change the paths for where they store files 19:18 chris You don't want them fighting each other 19:19 chris Yup 19:19 chris Puppet ftw 19:19 chris Id love to get a FAI build for koha too 19:19 lavamind I see the .deb for 3.2.3 hasn't been uploaded yet, though 19:20 chris Nope, will be done Monday nz time 19:20 chris Robin is on annual leave 19:20 chris Ok my stop bbiab 19:34 chris back 19:35 ebegin hi guys 19:35 ebegin Hi lavamind. 19:38 lavamind hi ebegin 19:38 lavamind I just reinstalled using 3.2.3, and still no fr-FR prefs :( 19:42 sekjal got a fix for 5367; 19:43 cait lavamind: any error messages? 19:45 chris id love it if someone could take a look at 5657 19:45 lavamind cait: http://pastebin.com/mkf5aFxG 19:45 chris and the patch submitted 19:45 chris and signoff 19:45 chris want to reward the new guy ;) 19:46 wizzyrea doh I don't have any authorities 19:46 cait lavamind: looks ok to me - no idea :( you have the po file for the pref? 19:47 cait bug 5657 19:47 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5657 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED, biblio records update fails when updating multiple authorities linked with the same biblio 19:47 lavamind cait: in misc/translator/po : fr-FR-i-opac-t-prog-v-3002000.po fr-FR-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po fr-FR-pref.po 19:47 chris someone with authorities :) 19:48 lavamind cait: opac and intranet translations are installed OK 19:48 cait lavamind: sorry, out of ideas now :( 19:49 cait you could add to the bug report that it's still not working 19:49 ebegin lavamind, make sure you have the files in your the installed version of Koha and not the installer directory... 19:50 ebegin you may have installed koha in /usr/share/koha/ 19:50 lavamind ebegin: I'm working exclusively from the installed koha dir, not installer 19:51 lavamind ebegin: yes, I made sure I'm at the right place, like I said, the template translations are not missing 19:51 lavamind the .pref files are installed under fr-FR, but contain English strings 19:52 fredericd lavamind: is it a normal or devel install? 19:53 lavamind fredericd: "standard" 19:54 fredericd translated .pref files may have been copied in the wrong location 19:54 ebegin lavamind, did you run ./tmpl_process3.pl install -i ... 19:54 fredericd try a locate opac.pref 19:54 fredericd ebegin: ./tmpl_process3.pl doesn't handle .pref files translation 19:56 chris heya Nate 19:56 Nate Hi Chris!! 19:57 lac any particular reason why my marc records are not being added or updated to the search results? i tried running misc/migration_tools/rebuild_nozebra.pl but that didn't resolve the issue 19:58 chris and you are definitely running nozebra? 19:58 chris what version of koha? 19:58 lac chris: yes, 3.2 19:58 chris 3.2.what? 19:58 chris 3.2.0 ? 19:58 lac chris: yes 19:59 chris id strongly suggest using zebra, and upgrading to 3.2.3 19:59 lac chris: ok 20:00 lavamind fredericd: seems to me like .pref files are copies okay : http://pastebin.com/5F8XaKPh 20:00 chris nozebra isnt maintained any more, but before you do that, can you check the records exist in the db? 20:01 lac chris: yes, they exist in the db but their marc blob is outdated i guess, i'm attaching items to records and i'll get the error "item cannot be added" but then it gets added and i can't find the record by searching 20:03 chris ahh but the marc hasnt been updated? (or the marcxml) ie there is a new item but the marc hasnt been changed? 20:03 lac chris: exactly 20:04 chris right, then running zebra wont help, do you have a test instance you can upgrade to 3.2.3? 20:05 lac chris: yes 20:06 chris id give that a whirl, and also check your apache error logs 20:07 lavamind fredericd, ebegin: I found the problem 20:08 ebegin lavamind, what was it? 20:09 lavamind based on the commit diff cait put here just before, there's a bug remaining in misc/translate 20:09 lavamind oops I mean LangInstaller.pm 20:11 chris it might be just a pet peeve of mine, but sending a .doc file about an open source workshop makes me dismiss it 20:11 fredericd lavamind: could you be more specific? 20:12 lavamind fredericd: yes, here http://pastebin.com/16gGa5Cp 20:12 lavamind sorry I was making the diff, heh 20:12 lavamind with this patch, prefs are translated! 20:17 ebegin lavamind, from which college are you ^ 20:18 fredericd lavamind: yes, you're correct. Thanks. I will send a patch 20:22 chris or lavamind could send one :) 20:22 chris everyone wants a line in the history file ;) 20:23 fredericd chris: you're correct :-) 20:23 fredericd This patch should be rattached to bug 5506 20:23 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Translation Process Simplification 20:26 lavamind fredericd: I'll submit the patch to the tracker 20:27 cait :) 20:27 lavamind ebegin: College Maisonneuve 20:27 lavamind I work in the IT dept 20:27 ebegin I see 20:28 fredericd lavamind: to get your name on Koha history, as suggested by chris, you must send your patch with git 20:28 fredericd http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 20:28 wizzyrea < 87 ;) 20:28 druthb more_committers++ 20:28 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Share_with_the_rest_of_the_world 20:29 lavamind uh, you want to give me write access to Git ?? 20:29 fredericd no, you format a patch and you send it to koha-patches@lists.koha-community.org 20:29 chris no 20:29 fredericd as explained on koha wiki 20:29 fredericd this way you will have your name on the patch 20:30 fredericd druthb: the more the merrier 20:30 * owen wonders, "'roaming' bittorrents?" 20:31 chris hehe yeah 20:34 owen Didn't there used to be game where you would try to combine two words to arrive at the Google result with the least number of hits? 20:34 owen The phrase "roaming bittorrents," for the moment, gets zero hits. 20:35 chris :) 20:36 wizzyrea owen: if there's not a game you just invented it 20:36 owen The sad thing is I think this was like ten years ago 20:39 chris cait: you about? 20:40 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Template_toolkit_test 20:41 chris http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/template_test 20:41 chris we think we have fixed the utf8 and xslt issue and also fixed some of the scoping issues with global variables, if you have time to test sometime that would be great 20:41 chris or anyone else for that matter 20:53 lavamind fredericd: okay for the commit message : "Bug 5506 Fix installation of prefs translations" ? 20:53 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Translation Process Simplification 20:54 cait here 20:54 fredericd lavamind: 'in standard install' because it works on devel 20:54 cait chris: issues with global variables? 20:55 lavamind fredericd: ok 20:55 chris cait: yeah theme/language etc template toolkit cares about scope, html::template doesnt 20:55 chris so some links used to be broken 20:55 chris i think they are fixed now 20:56 cait ah ok 20:56 fredericd lavamind: et merci, c'est du bon boulot ! 20:56 cait I can try - but not before the weekend I think 20:57 * owen will try to make some time as well 20:58 chris thank you both 20:59 fredericd chris: is it on template_test branch? 20:59 chris thats the one 21:00 chris you can try the other one if you are brave (it runs the script to generate the templates) 21:00 chris but template_test has them pregenerated 21:00 fredericd you mean with TT templates already there? 21:00 fredericd (I'm reading koha wiki) 21:01 fredericd http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Template_toolkit_test 21:02 chris yep thats right 21:02 fredericd and what has to be tested exactly? 21:02 fredericd I can see a location on the opac where accented characters are not properly displayed 21:05 chris cool those are the things we are looking for 21:06 chris can you update the wiki page with that info, and a url so we can recreate 21:07 chris wb nate 21:08 Nate Well Heeelllllooooo there 21:08 chris heh 21:11 lavamind fredericd: the patch is sent 21:11 lavamind commit id 0c48e2c1c43c8e1dfdbc18ed9debd1d2b5b6e905 21:12 cait hi Nate 21:12 Nate Hiya cait! 21:12 cait lavamind. have you subscribed to the list before sending? 21:13 * chris_n waves bye and heads home 21:13 chris cya chris_n 21:17 lavamind cait: no, I haven't, I can't say I want to receive 50 emails a day about patches to Koha, for now anyway 21:17 lavamind from reading the wiki I understood that membership was optional 21:18 lavamind someone just needs to moderate the message I suppose 21:18 fredericd lavamind: send me your patch by email. I will sign-off it and resubmit it to the list. 21:18 fredericd you still will get the credit for the patch 21:18 cait lavamind: I only wondered why it didn't come through yet 21:20 lavamind fredericd: patch sent 21:20 fredericd get it 21:23 lavamind Perhaps this page should be adjusted : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client#Koha_3.2 21:23 lavamind « Note: This will only work with a dev installation, not in a standard installation. To install additional languages in a standard installation you can still use the old script, but it will only work for translation of staff and opac, not for translation of system preferences. » <== not anymore, it works now! 21:23 fredericd lavamind: yes, this is not true anymore 21:24 lavamind As of 3.2.4 ? 21:25 lavamind I suppose the patch will make it in the next minor release ? 21:25 fredericd lavamind: this problem is for 3.2 Release Manager 21:25 lavamind heheh 21:26 fredericd we have now a problem with 3.2 monthly version release 21:26 fredericd The release doesn't contains translated Koha templates 21:26 fredericd and Koha don't have an integrated way for generating templates from .po files 21:27 fredericd so, people are supposed to do it by hand, as you've done 21:27 lavamind it would indeed be nice for those to be integrated in the install itself 21:27 fredericd but average person installing Koha on 'standard' mode are not supposed to run script by hand 21:28 fredericd yes, the plan is to modify web installer to translate templates during the installation process 21:28 lavamind yeah, and even then, lots of docs still mention the "tmpl_process3.pl" script 21:29 lavamind it was difficult to understand why those two commands existed 21:29 fredericd This will be done for 3.4 not 3.2 (translation from .po file on the fly) 21:30 chris got 3 more months to do that :-) 21:30 wizzyrea boo no brooke 21:30 lavamind installing translations from the web installer would be awsome 21:31 fredericd chris: That's the reason why I'm curious to see new TT templates... 21:31 chris fredericd: chris hall has been working on rewriting the translator scripts to work with template toolkit, it will mean not having to retranslate everything 21:31 fredericd that sounds too good to be true... 21:31 chris so just need to get the webinstaller to call the right script 21:31 chris well .po files dont actually care where the string exists 21:31 chris so its not that hard to do 21:33 fredericd http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2011-January/013704.html 21:34 fredericd lavamind: ^^ it's your patch 21:34 fredericd and one new commiter 21:35 wizzyrea lavamind is erupting patches all over us! 21:36 wizzyrea lavamind++ 21:36 cait lavamind++ 21:36 wizzyrea I had to. Sorry. 21:36 druthb lavamind++ 21:37 druthb @quote add wizzyrea: lavamind is erupting patches all over us! 21:37 munin druthb: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 21:37 druthb wizzyrea: lavamind is erupting patches all over us! 21:37 ibot i already had it that way, druthb. 21:37 druthb why isn't copy/paste working right...grrr. 21:37 druthb @quote add wizzyrea: lavamind is erupting patches all over us! 21:37 munin druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #118 added. 21:37 ibot i already had it that way, druthb. 21:37 druthb adium -- 21:38 gmcharlt what is lavamind? 21:38 ibot lavamind is erupting patches all over us! 21:38 wizzyrea rofl 21:38 druthb hehehe 21:38 cait lol 21:38 wizzyrea lavamind is also a koha committer 21:38 ibot okay, wizzyrea. 21:38 wizzyrea what is lavamind? 21:38 ibot lavamind is erupting patches all over us! or a koha committer 21:39 fredericd chris: for, the isn't any place in koha with TT where accented characters are properly displayed 21:41 cait fredericd: testing with english templates everything that comes from the db? 21:41 cait like branch names with accents? 21:41 fredericd yes 21:41 cait that's my old bug then 21:41 lavamind lol @ibot 21:41 chris yeah that works here i wonder what is differnet then 21:41 fredericd but even on staff search result page 21:42 cait chris: I thought we found a solution? you made me add a line to a file and it worked after that 21:42 chris yeah, and only the xslt didnt 21:42 chris and then we fixed that 21:42 chris will have to investigate more 21:42 cait so we have to choose? ;) 21:42 chris no 21:42 chris here both work 21:42 lavamind hey folks, thanks for your help, I think I'm ready to go in terms of deploying Koha 21:42 chris maybe chris missed pushing something 21:43 cait ok, bed time for me here :) 21:43 druthb g'night, cait! 21:43 cait a lot of work waiting tomorrow 21:43 fredericd I can see recent patches with utf8::decode... 21:44 cait chris: I wrote a big note and todo in my calendar to test :) 21:44 cait good night / day all :) 21:47 jcamins Does anyone know how to use an Android device as a barcode reader hooked to a computer? 21:48 sekjal jcamins: the Barcode app allows for custom URLs, but I'm not sure it can do real-time scanning as an input device to another computer 21:49 sekjal that'd be wicked neat, though, so someone must have tried 21:49 * jcamins needs to demonstrate what a barcode scanner would work like. 21:50 sekjal ah... I'd send you my CueCat, if it was electronically transmittable 21:50 jcamins Thanks. 21:50 jcamins If I'd known I was going to need one, I'd have declawed a cue cat. 21:51 wizzyrea jcamins: does the computer in question have a webcam? 21:51 jcamins My Mac does. 21:51 wizzyrea ok, then you can use that as a barcode scanner, one sec 21:52 sekjal http://androidforums.com/application-requests/44847-barcode-scanner-pc.html 21:52 sekjal less immediately applicable, but on topic 21:53 jcamins Interesting. 21:54 * wizzyrea knows that she had a barcode reader for mac... wtf was it 21:56 wizzyrea this is not what I was thinking of 21:56 sekjal anyway, got to get. have a good evening, #koha! 21:56 wizzyrea http://www.scannerfly.com/ 21:56 wizzyrea but might help you 21:59 wizzyrea zbar is the oss cam->barcode scanning utility 21:59 wizzyrea http://sourceforge.net/projects/zbar/ 21:59 wizzyrea but no binary for mac :/ 22:00 jcamins :( 22:01 wizzyrea i'm still looking :D 22:01 wizzyrea Aha! 22:01 wizzyrea http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/16461/evobarcode 22:01 jcamins http://www.bruji.com/cocoa/barcode.html 22:02 wizzyrea and that! 22:02 wizzyrea woot! 22:02 jcamins Thank you! 22:02 jcamins wizzyrea++ 22:02 wizzyrea :) sure 22:02 wizzyrea ahshucks 22:03 wizzyrea and yours is universal 22:03 wizzyrea mine was ppc only (rosetta) 22:03 wizzyrea oh it uses zbar :) of course it does 22:04 darling http://www.springenwerk.com/2009/01/barcode-recognition-with-googles-zxing.html 22:04 wizzyrea oh yea, darling's been working with zxing 22:04 darling ^ a bit raw but I like zxing on android 22:05 wizzyrea ye, that's the one that I'm using on my android 22:05 wizzyrea oh, for that you'll need the xcode tools, for bruji 22:06 jcamins Hm. 22:07 jcamins This is a bit trickier than I would have expected. 22:07 jcamins I have xcode. I'll try bruji now. 22:08 wizzyrea i know there were more >.< 22:09 * jcamins gets frustrated with EvoBarcode and moves on. 22:10 jcamins Clearly I'm missing something here. 22:11 wizzyrea yea, i'm not sure the last time I tried it worked :/ 22:12 * jcamins gives up 22:16 wizzyrea meh that's maddening 22:16 * wizzyrea thinks perhaps she needs better light 22:17 wizzyrea aha 22:17 wizzyrea Does EvoBarcode work with the built-in iSight on iMac, MacBook and MacBook Pro computers? 22:17 wizzyrea No. The built-in iSight does not have focus control, and will not work reliably with EvoBarcode. For best results we recommend an external iSight or similar camera with focus control. 22:17 wizzyrea I don't have an external iSight. Can I use a different kind of camera? 22:17 wizzyrea Yes. EvoBarcode will recognize any QuickTime-compatible camera, however not all cameras provide a high enough quality image for barcode scanning. We recommend the external iSight because it provides a very high quality image, and good manual focus controls, but other users have had success with other IIDC cameras, DV camcorders, and USB cameras. 22:18 wizzyrea so, try your point and shoot, if it does webcam-type stuff 22:22 jcamins Blah. 22:22 jcamins Don't have a camera. 22:22 jcamins Maybe Nate does. 22:22 jcamins Or maybe I just give up on this, and tell the library "when you have a working barcode scanner, it'll be really cool." 22:23 Nate I have cameras 22:23 chris they cost next to nothing 22:23 Nate :) 22:23 chris and you can get one at pretty much any store like frys, or best buy 22:23 chris just grab a cheap usb one 22:23 wizzyrea cameras or barcode scanners? 22:24 chris barcode scanner 22:24 chris itll come in hand for lots of things 22:24 jcamins chris: wait, let me guess... it's nice and warm in NZ, isn't it? :P 22:24 wizzyrea I haven't ever seen one at our best buy 22:24 chris they had them last time i was there, try staples 22:25 chris even if you dont get one now, definitely get one, it saves tons of time testing things 22:25 jcamins Yeah, I need one at some point. 22:26 chris course your phone works with koha too 22:26 chris thats how we issued everyone at kohacon 22:28 jcamins chris: one step at a time. First we introduce computers, *then* we introduce smartphones. :) 22:29 wizzyrea but yea, def get one 23:05 moodaepo @wunder 56001 23:06 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -7.9�C (5:07 PM CST on January 25, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). 23:36 wasabi ooh, chris' dad's got 3 books on the processing-bench at kapiti-lib 23:37 chris heh