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00:13 chris heya druthb
00:20 druthb hi, chris! :D
00:21 chris another busy week?
00:22 druthb brisk, to be sure.
00:23 * druthb waves to Nate. :)
00:47 hudsonbot Starting build 42 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:00 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #42: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/42/
01:00 hudsonbot * Nicole C. Engard: add opacpublic preference
01:00 hudsonbot * Nicole C. Engard: move opacpublic description to bullet point
01:20 havergara hello everyone...!:)
02:05 ebegin Any good source about the official way to display a bib record with the right syntax ?
02:05 ebegin I would like to know how should be display a title and subtitles when there is more than one subtitle...
02:06 ebegin (i just discovered that the subtitle was a repeatable field). :)
02:37 ebegin gmcharlt, around ?
02:39 wasabi ebegin: the display of repeating authors and titles is prolly still a little patchy
02:39 ebegin wasabi, but what should be the ideal way to display it?
02:39 ebegin I'm looking for a example.
02:40 wasabi the way your clients wants it displayed, is the correct answer :)
02:40 ebegin TITLE / SUBTITLE, SUBTITLE, SUBTITLE. ?
02:40 ebegin I'm sure there is a standard way...
02:41 wasabi yep, that way is what i prefer
02:43 wasabi nicole or liz prolly have an opinion on that
02:46 ebegin agree... :) thanks
02:53 ebegin gmcharlt, is there a way for field->subfields to returns an array? Right now, if we have a repeated subfield, it returns the values joined with |, eg [ 'x', 'Computer|Learning' ] (probably because it uses a map)...
02:54 ebegin I'm looking to get one line for each. eg ('x', 'computer', 'x', 'Learning')
03:11 Brooke kia ora
03:32 chris http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/299425/japan-extends-aid-aurora
03:32 chris check out the last paragraph
03:54 Oak \o
04:46 moodaepo @wunder 56001
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05:21 havergara how will i make my koha 3.0 to display the fines properly?
05:22 havergara my fines charge computation is working properly, but the problem is, the charge thats shows is only on the total, the charge per item/material doesnt show...
06:14 cait morning #koha :)
06:47 CIA-1 Koha: 03paul.poulain 07kcmaster * rv3.02.00-564-g2eb36a7 10/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/img/itemtypeimg/carredart/ (15 files): Bug5640: BZ5640 (MT3584): Nimes icon set
06:48 CIA-1 Koha: 03paul.poulain 07new/enh/bug_5634 * rv3.02.00-565-g129f05a 10/C4/Branch.pm: Bug 5634: BZ5634 order branch list alphabetically, without taking care of uc/lc
06:48 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5634 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, ordering branches cas independant
06:57 CIA-1 Koha: 03chansey.killer 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-566-g669280c 10/t/db_dependent/Accounts.t: Bug 5327 Made test file for Accounts.pm
06:57 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
07:02 francharb hi all
07:08 chris hi francharb
07:13 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-567-g1c89ce3 10/t/db_dependent/Members.t: Bug 5327: small typo in the Members.t test
07:13 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
07:19 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327: small typo in the Members.t test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c89ce34b914cd5247cb6103b9bda5cde9720dcb> / Bug 5327 Made test file for Accounts.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=669280c7ab200637f06a5b6852409f7207f68403> / Bug 5634: BZ5634 order branch list alphabetically, without taking care of uc/lc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g
07:30 hudsonbot Starting build 309 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #307 23 hr ago)
07:45 kf gooood morning #koha .)
07:48 chris the campaigning has begun
07:48 kf kohacon?
07:49 kf pakistan, india, uk and california?
07:49 kf wow
07:55 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #309: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/309/
07:55 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: Bug5640: BZ5640 (MT3584): Nimes icon set
07:55 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: Bug 5634: BZ5634 order branch list alphabetically, without taking care of uc/lc
07:55 hudsonbot * johnboy: Bug 5327 Made test file for Accounts.pm
07:55 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: small typo in the Members.t test
07:56 chris i love hudson
07:56 chris http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/(root)/xt_author_icondirectories_t/staff_and_OPAC_icon_directories_have_same_contents/
07:57 chris caught a problem with the new icons
07:57 * chris fixes
08:02 kf :)
08:04 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_5640 * rv3.02.00-565-g91906e1 10/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/itemtypeimg/carredart/ (15 files): Bug 5640: Adding the icons to the opac also
08:04 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5640 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, additional icons set from Nimes
08:06 chris and updated my script so it will catch that before i push in the future
08:09 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5640' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0f712fa184adc51296c2e1fecf26caa2bee4e14> / Bug 5640: Adding the icons to the opac also <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=91906e1d030f04a37ae4247f4cf19c59ecd50f15> / Bug5640: BZ5640 (MT3584): Nimes icon set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5483
08:14 hdl hi
08:14 ibot what's up, hdl
08:15 hudsonbot Starting build 310 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #307 1 day 0 hr ago)
08:20 chris hi hdl, the number of connections from the same ip has been upped now, so you should no longer have to use mibbit
08:20 hdl chris++ rus++ rach++
08:21 hdl thanks.
08:22 hdl I will have a day off today. So won't be able to check. But it will be a pleasure for paul and our co-workers.
08:22 chris ahh, taking a holiday?
08:23 hdl sort of
08:37 kf hm holiday++
08:39 chris :)
08:40 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed!
08:40 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #310: FIXED in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/310/
08:40 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: Bug5640: BZ5640 (MT3584): Nimes icon set
08:40 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5640: Adding the icons to the opac also
08:50 chris yippie :)
09:01 kf !hudson botsnack cookie
09:01 hudsonbot kf: you're so kind to me! I just love cookie!
09:02 kf_mtg chris snack cookie ;)
09:03 chris om nom nom
10:25 marcelr hi koha: have a question on editing updatedatabase.pl; should I add version XXX or number+1 right away; is this documented somewhere; couldn't find it..
10:25 chris XXX
10:25 marcelr ok
10:27 chris its number will depend on when i merge it
10:28 * chris goes to sleep
11:14 praba hi i need to test sms notifications in koha .. can anyone help me out in this regard?
11:21 soomro Im installing koha on ubuntu
11:21 soomro I need help regarding sudo deselect
11:21 soomro can any body help me?
11:21 soomro Im unable to complete sudo deselect
11:23 soomro can any body?
11:23 wasabi whats the error...?
11:25 wasabi soomro: use these instructions for installing on ubuntu...
11:25 wasabi http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid
11:55 praba anyone used sms notifications ?
11:59 wasabi praba: no, not with koha
12:03 wasabi i would give this a go, 1st
12:03 wasabi http://packages.debian.org/lenny/smsclient
12:06 praba <wasabi> thanks a lot.. But i need to test it out .. can u give some idea to implement it?
12:08 wasabi sms on koha? nope - ive never used it
12:09 wasabi i would focus on getting sms sending from your server 1st, then koha
12:18 druthb mornin', #koha
13:42 atz wasabi, probably soomro's problem is that it is sudo dselect
13:42 atz not "deselect"
13:46 kf atz: another problem can be that the package for dselect is not installed
13:46 kf I have run into that on ubuntu
13:48 atz right
14:19 sekjal druthb++ (for scripting something I've been doing manually all these months)
14:19 druthb Thanx, sekjal! :)
14:23 jwagner @karma druthb
14:23 munin jwagner: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 53 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 53.
14:23 jwagner Harrumph!
14:24 druthb @karma jwagner
14:24 munin druthb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 51 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 51.
14:24 druthb :D
14:31 * sekjal has severe 'mad scientist' hair today
14:32 druthb There would be a really good reason for that, Ian.
14:32 * druthb hands sekjal his lab coat.
14:33 druthb @karma sekjal
14:33 munin druthb: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 58 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 57.
14:33 druthb hm. hard target.
15:02 * kf whispers to munin druthb++
15:03 * druthb wonders if munin heard that.
15:03 druthb @karma druthb
15:03 munin druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 54 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 54.
15:03 druthb be danged. he did.
15:40 owen What'd I miss?
15:42 kf not much I think, very silent today
15:59 kf leaving - bye all :)
16:51 wizzyrea not that it particularly matters but http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5411 is still causing me consternation
16:51 munin 04Bug 5411: major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Existing renewal rules are not translated into new rule structure on upgrade
16:52 cait hmI thought that was solved
16:53 cait wizzyrea: we came from a 3.1.61 - it seemed to work there - perhaps you want to check the updatedatabase there?
16:53 cait or I am confusing with maxreserves - no way to check from here
16:54 wizzyrea max reserves seemed to come over
16:54 wizzyrea I came from a 3.00.00
16:54 wizzyrea basically, if there are no special rules for those itypes defined
16:55 wizzyrea for other factors
16:55 wizzyrea the renewal rules are not preserved
16:55 chris you might want to go to 3.0.6, then to 3.3.x
16:56 wizzyrea hmm
16:57 chris id be pleasantly suprised if 3.0.0 to 3.3.x worked without going to 3.0.6 first
16:57 wizzyrea interesting.
16:57 wizzyrea most everything else seems to work
16:58 chris it is going up a ton of db revisions in one hit
16:59 wizzyrea yep, the list was pretty long.
16:59 cait hm, ubuntu question: I added a second screen - it worked for a minute, now I see the same on both... not what I wanted
16:59 cait and ubuntu tells me screen uknown :(
16:59 cait any idea about that?
17:00 chris nope
17:00 chris well, too many ideas to be useful really
17:00 cait hm ok
17:00 cait I disconnected it and ubuntu still says screen unknown
17:00 cait so it's maybe talking about the screen of the laptop?
17:01 cait perhaps another reason to buy a new laptop...
17:02 chris its more likely its the window manager or xwindows not recognising the screen than the os, you could try restarting the window manager ( sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart )
17:05 cait you could have warned me ;)
17:05 cait no change
17:05 druthb @roulette
17:05 munin druthb: *click*
17:06 druthb @roulette
17:06 * munin reloads and spins the chambers.
17:07 cait @
17:20 owen chris: The patch I just submitted is specifically for new/awaiting_qa/enh/bug_5575
17:23 chris righto owen
17:23 sekjal wow, I can actually see the bottom of my inbox
17:23 wizzyrea it has a bottom?
17:24 sekjal wizzyrea: well, technically no, but all the messages are on a single page
17:25 chris owen: applied and pushed
17:26 owen sekjal: That's as close to inbox zero as I get
17:26 chris im inbox 278
17:26 chris if im below 1000 its a good week
17:27 sekjal both my regular and starred emails are below their pagination limits, so I'm pretty pleased.
17:27 rhcl Anybody know of any alternatives to OverDrive?
17:27 sekjal list-minimization is one of my favourite games
17:28 chris oh you mean your personal one? thats at inbox 50 million or something
17:28 chris i just was looking at my @catalyst one
17:29 sekjal chris: I mean my work email
17:29 sekjal my person one has been pretty well kept clean
17:29 chris oh, you are one of these people who trust the cloud enough to put their work emails in it
17:29 chris ive heard of you guys ;)
17:30 * chris is a paranoid fool
17:30 wizzyrea nah, the rules still don't come over even going through 3.0.6
17:30 sekjal we're a silly breed
17:30 chris i run offlineimap to make sure i have a local copy of all my gmail stuff
17:31 wizzyrea rhcl: let me know when you find one.
17:31 chris or 3 copies as the case may be
17:31 wizzyrea same sympton
17:31 wizzyrea m
17:31 chris rhcl: isnt the libraryworld building one?
17:31 wizzyrea meh. I'll just fix it.
17:31 chris and send a patch wizzyrea ?
17:31 chris :)
17:32 wizzyrea well I meant manually fix the rules, but maybe
17:32 chris rhcl: some sekrit squirrel thing before christmas thats now been announced properly ... can anyone remember what it was called
17:32 rhcl OK, I was going to go pvt with wizzy on the subject, but I'll stay on main and try not to swear...too much.
17:32 chris i bet it had library in it?
17:33 chris i was unimpressed because it took no stand on drm, thats all i remember
17:33 wizzyrea gah I can't remember what it was
17:33 rhcl "Our library" planned, bought and paid for OverDrive without me even knowing.
17:33 wizzyrea !!
17:33 chris yikes
17:33 rhcl OD requires MS Internet Explorer, at least for staff use. I'm royally *****-off about that.
17:33 chris yeah OD is crap, it really has no redeeming features]
17:34 chris apart from the fact it exists
17:34 wizzyrea it's quite bd
17:34 wizzyrea bad
17:34 rhcl Well, if you want the latest and greatest Allstar MacLane novel, it seems to be the only game in town.
17:34 wizzyrea ks has a statewide
17:34 wizzyrea sub to it
17:34 chris *nod*
17:34 wizzyrea and it's so hard to get epubs off of, that it's practically pointless to try
17:34 chris locked down monopolies always create the best stuff
17:35 wizzyrea they've finally kind of figured out audiobooks, that works well enough
17:35 rhcl OK, I have to live with that maybe, but having to use IE is too much.
17:35 wizzyrea can you trick it?
17:35 wizzyrea or does it actually really need IE
17:35 rhcl I haven't tried changing the id string.
17:35 chris might be poxy activex
17:36 rhcl I'd rather bitch and moan for a while.
17:36 wizzyrea and wtf could IE have that it would require.
17:36 wizzyrea activex I guess
17:36 rhcl activex?
17:36 wizzyrea activehax is more like it
17:36 chris or silverlight
17:36 wizzyrea mmm silverlight works on chrome
17:36 wizzyrea err
17:36 chris or whatever that other pile of crap they came up with is called
17:36 wizzyrea well
17:36 wizzyrea revision
17:36 cait what did I miss?
17:36 cait ;)
17:36 wizzyrea netflix requires silverlight
17:36 wizzyrea netflix now works on chrome
17:37 wizzyrea but it could be an alternate delivery method
17:37 chris id hope so
17:37 chris but yeah, tell chromium or firefox to pretend its ie
17:37 chris worth a shot
17:37 wizzyrea ^^
17:38 chris or you could just run ie, get all the computers in the library owned
17:38 chris with the latest 0day
17:38 chris and then go quietly mad in the corner
17:38 wizzyrea poxy
17:38 * wizzyrea just caught that, giggled
17:39 rhcl You know, you really don't see that many web sites anymore coming directly from closed, underground bunkers, and for a service that supposedly serves a library system that is supposed to offer "open access" to info...
17:39 chris *nod*
17:39 wizzyrea closed undergroud bunkers that apparently have very bad UPS's
17:39 wizzyrea overdrive was down for like 3 days last week because their datacenter had no power
17:39 chris groundhogs
17:40 chris ibot:excuse ?
17:40 * wizzyrea could spend all day making snide comments about overdrive
17:40 chris doh
17:40 chris dont try to
17:40 chris make ibot look up excuses apparently
17:40 wizzyrea lol
17:40 owen chris, you blew ibot's mind
17:40 wizzyrea i miss ibot
17:41 chris now the problem is
17:41 chris its written in perl
17:41 chris so i have the compulsive urge to fix it
17:42 chris so bear with me as it crashes a few times
17:42 chris ib: excuse
17:42 ibot chris: We only support a 1200 bps connection.
17:42 chris or not
17:42 chris fixed first go :)
17:42 chris ib: excuse
17:42 ibot chris: microelectronic Riemannian curved-space fault in write-only file system
17:42 chris now i can answer all my workrequests again :)
17:42 owen ibot:excuse ?
17:42 ibot owen: Someone else stole your IP address, call the Internet detectives!
17:43 cait excuse?
17:43 ibot cait: Dyslexics retyping hosts file on servers
17:44 chris ibot
17:44 ibot chris?
17:44 chris ibot: karma for overdrive?
17:44 ibot i haven't a clue, chris
17:44 chris ibot: karma for overdrive
17:44 ibot overdrive has neutral karma
17:44 chris overdrive--
17:44 chris soon fix that
17:44 chris @karma overdrive
17:44 munin chris: Karma for "overdrive" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1.
17:44 chris ibot: karma for overdrive
17:44 ibot overdrive has karma of -1
17:44 rhcl overdrive--
17:45 rhcl @karma overdrive
17:45 munin rhcl: Karma for "overdrive" has been increased 0 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of -2.
17:45 owen suddenly git send-email is giving me an error I've never seen: "The following files are 8bit, but do not declare a Content-Transfer-Encoding."
17:46 chris what are the files its trying to send?
17:47 owen Nothing special, just a patch on a single tmpl file
17:47 chris thats a weird one alright
17:48 chris ahh have you done the utf8 thingy?
17:48 owen I get this prompt: Which 8bit encoding should I declare [UTF-8]?
17:48 owen What thingy?
17:50 owen git config --global format.headers etc. etc. ?
17:50 owen I did at one time...
17:50 chris git config --global format.headers "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"utf-8\""
17:50 chris yeah
17:51 chris im out of ideas then
17:52 briceSanc hello all
17:54 owen Hi briceSanc
17:56 cait restarting one last time...
17:56 chris hi briceSanc
17:56 briceSanc do you have the same problem ? : i have plenty of " /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f " running in process !
17:56 briceSanc is it normal ?
17:57 chris do you only have 1 koha instance?
17:57 briceSanc yes
17:57 briceSanc i use zebrasrv and zebradaemon
17:57 briceSanc zebraqueue
17:58 chris there should only be 1 running
17:59 chris on one of my servers i have 8, but there are 8 different koha instances there, so one each (different config files)
17:59 chris so no, its not normal
18:01 briceSanc ok
18:01 chris are they all S or R (ie no D or Z processes?)
18:01 briceSanc Can they all kill themselves?
18:01 chris i doubt it
18:02 chris you have to figure out how that many got started firstly
18:02 briceSanc they are all S
18:03 chris then i have no idea why you have so many running
18:03 * chris has to go get ready for work, bbiab
18:03 schuster rchl - you might look into ingram - they have a great audio book collection and isn't nearly as expensive.
18:04 schuster that should have been rhcl... catching up on my reading.
18:06 briceSanc chris, I did nothing and they all disappeared
18:07 briceSanc chris, Do they appear when we are doing research with zebra and disappear soon after?
18:09 cait hmpf
18:09 cait ok;I give up.
18:10 cait no extended desktop on this laptop
18:22 * sekjal is enjoying some tea (Earl Grey, hot), and thinking of Star Trek: TNG
18:22 chris briceSanc: ah yes, that could well be it :)
18:22 * chris is thinking about kohacon11
18:23 chris and how sad it is, that due to the political situation, holding it in either india or pakistan pretty much precludes the other from attending
18:24 chris from what i understand it is very hard to get a visa to travel between the 2
18:24 * chris hopes he is utterly wrong
18:27 sekjal I'd love the chance to see either nation (or both!), but yeah, it could get sticky
18:28 chris yeah
18:29 * druthb would have to think hard about going either place. There are risks that may well be unacceptably high for me.
18:29 druthb (though I'm sure both are wonderful places, all in all)
18:30 chris i do think that having some regional ones as well is a darn good idea
18:30 chris us has the kudos conf
18:31 chris and altho a dev conf is not being organised as part of that, heck this is free software, that can be modified :)
18:31 chris im planning to be in the US in june ... hint hint
18:31 chris ;)
18:32 druthb :D
18:32 * druthb is thinking that a dev conference around ALA....
18:32 chris works for me
18:33 druthb At the very least, a late-night hackfest or two...
18:33 chris i have 3 conf booked in this year
18:33 chris kiwifoo next month
18:33 chris ala in june
18:33 chris and access in october
18:33 chris and then wherever kohacon is, ill probably end up there too
18:34 chris i think this time, ill try to get my parents to look after the kids, and laurel and I can go
18:35 briceSanc chris, ok thanks !
18:35 chris druthb: i like that idea, late night hackfests
18:36 druthb We did that at the ByWater staff meetup, and got a lot of mileage out of it for us. Not a lotta code, but was more chalk-talk kinds of stuff.
18:36 chris i know that biblibre were thinking about the idea of a european get together in march i think
18:36 chris to bug squash for 3.4
18:36 chris which i think is a tremendous idea
18:37 chris and transatlantic flights are many :)
18:37 chris druthb: thats often more important
18:37 chris be back in 5 mins or so, from on the bus
18:45 chris Back
18:45 druthb :)
18:47 chris So the students have gotten us up to 49.9% subroutine coverage
18:48 druthb yay!
18:48 chris If we crack 50 they get cake
18:48 chris Only have this morning tho
18:48 chris Tokemon this afternoon
18:49 * druthb would get out her cheerleading costume, if it'd help.
18:50 chris :)
18:51 chris https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/tokemon-2/
18:51 chris The organisers of kiwicon are running a cut down version of this
18:53 ibeardsle .. we'll be looking for unprompted feedback and thanks to go into press releases ;)
18:56 chris :)
18:56 chris ibeardsle: I'm planning a writeup for the koha newsletter
18:57 chris Which goes out next week
18:57 chris Might try and get quotes from the kids today
18:57 chris After I feed them cake of course :)
18:58 * chris loves irc on the bus
18:58 chris Are u in at work already?
18:58 ibeardsle yep
18:58 chris Jeepers
18:59 ibeardsle be good to get some comments from people using koha about the work the students have done as well
18:59 chris Oh good idea
18:59 chris I wonder if owen has time to look at the icon set?
18:59 chris @seen owen?
18:59 munin chris: I have not seen owen?.
18:59 chris @seen owen
18:59 munin chris: owen was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <owen> Hi briceSanc
19:00 * owen is here
19:01 chris Cool
19:01 chris The is a branch I pushed on Wednesday lemme find it
19:01 chris Bug 5689
19:01 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5689 was not found.
19:01 chris Hmm
19:02 owen Bug 5628?
19:02 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5628 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, New Icon set, Liblime Kids icons resized and transparent backgrounds made
19:02 chris That's it :)
19:03 chris @seen chris_n
19:03 munin chris: chris_n was last seen in #koha 1 day, 1 hour, 28 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <chris_n> @quote add chris: friends don't let friends use proprietary software.
19:03 owen chris: I looked at it and commented
19:03 chris Heh
19:03 chris Ohh cool thanks
19:04 cait now I have kille it - both screens black...
19:04 cait hmpf!
19:04 chris Right I can group them up
19:05 chris but I think making a new set was pretty decent for a young woman new to koha, git, linux etc
19:06 owen That's how I got started: Doing the things I knew how to do and working from there
19:06 wizzyrea_ agreed on that point for sure
19:06 chris Ohh can I quote that owen?
19:06 owen Sure
19:06 chris Sweet
19:07 chris Ill group and push soon as I get to my desk
19:08 chris Now who can I bully into quoting on the unit tests? :)
19:09 chris My stop, ill leave you to ponder that
19:09 chris Bbiab
19:20 * owen is glad sekjal filed Bug 5645, noticed that the other day.
19:20 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5645 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Z39.50 search from search results not parsing query correctly
19:21 jcamins Hello, #koha
19:21 druthb hi, jcamins!
19:27 sekjal I think I've found the line in C4/Search.pm that's causing the problem with the above-referenced bug
19:30 sekjal the $query_desc variable isn't a ref unless it's greater than 1 index
19:31 sekjal but $query_desc is just a string.... a human-readable string
19:31 sekjal hmmmm.....
19:41 sekjal that's why; it's silly
19:41 sekjal I think I got it
19:51 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_5628 * rv3.02.00-563-gab2f589 10/koha-tmpl/ (112 files in 4 dirs): Bug 5268: Combining icons with liblime-kids
19:51 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5268 minor, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Language Issue: Debarred
19:54 owen Looks good chris
19:54 chris sweet thanks owen
19:55 chris pushed up your 5575 patches
19:56 owen Thanks
20:01 jcamins chris: do you know if bug 5551 is just waiting for a sign-off?
20:01 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5551 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, The shelf browser should be able to ignore things like location
20:02 chris lemme look
20:10 chris jcamins: sure looks that way
20:10 jcamins Okay.
20:10 jcamins Thanks.
20:30 * jcamins eagerly awaits the day when updatedatabase.pl disappears.
20:31 hudsonbot Starting build 311 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED)
20:32 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5628' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a787b54bd96535dbc66efbf07a98f658169231c2> / Bug 5268: Combining icons with liblime-kids <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab2f589ec70f056a51e74e1c93abce29e61c9abd> / New icon set, renaming and making files in the intranet too <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;
20:33 chris jcamins: its on my list to do
20:35 chris http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=lib/Koha/Schema;h=f04cfa39433ef6a18d19523f3e8197d62676d5c8;hb=e28ead9cc0b5b9341c1398e8354ca285574e3f9a
20:35 chris i started a long time ago
20:35 chris http://search.cpan.org/~abraxxa/DBIx-Class-0.08127/lib/DBIx/Class/Schema/Versioned.pm
20:35 chris if you want to read that
20:35 chris thats how im thinking to try doing it
20:37 jcamins Why not DBIx::Class::DeploymentHandler (I know nothing about the subject, I'm just reading the "See Also")
20:38 jcamins ... ?
20:38 jcamins Sorry, that question mark was a bit delayed.
20:40 chris it pulls in moose and half the damn world
20:40 jcamins Ah.
20:40 jcamins A postmodern object system?
20:40 jcamins I don't even know what that means.
20:41 chris its cool, for starting a new project, but for just doing the schema deployment way overkill
20:43 owen @wunder 45701
20:43 munin owen: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is -2.0�C (3:35 PM EST on January 20, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 7 am EST Friday...
20:43 druthb @wunder 20852
20:43 munin druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 4.9�C (3:40 PM EST on January 20, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady).
20:43 * owen hopes the roads will be clear in the morning
20:48 jcamins @wunder 11105
20:48 munin jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 0.1�C (3:45 PM EST on January 20, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 9 PM this evening to 8 am EST Friday...
20:48 * jcamins too - he's not sure what happens if it snows
20:52 wizzyrea_ ah you're getting the rest of our snow
20:52 CIA-1 Koha: 03joseph.zachariah.sim 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-575-g434d9a3 10/t/Output_JSONStream.t: Bug 5327: Added unit tests to Output_JSONStream.t
20:52 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
20:53 * jwagner tempts fate and does happy dance -- I _think_ my massive four-week-long data mapping project is done....
20:53 owen wizzyrea_: You didn't need to save us any you know
20:53 ibeardsle just done get carried away and trip over the power cord crashing the disk and losing everything
20:53 jwagner yeah, wizzyrea_, don't be so generous!
20:54 * wizzyrea_ is happy to be generous, sad that it's snow though
20:55 * druthb is headed off to dinner. see y'all soon!
20:57 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #311: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/311/
20:57 hudsonbot * claudia: New icon set for kids, has ben rezided to 48 by 48px
20:57 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: New icon set, renaming and making files in the intranet too
20:57 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5268: Combining icons with liblime-kids
20:58 hudsonbot Starting build 312 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:02 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327: Added unit tests to Output_JSONStream.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=434d9a3c66c54c028c971a0bd59312d099ba358a>
21:05 jcamins Okay, what makes the OPAC show zero holdings in detail view, but correctly show items in the search results?
21:05 wizzyrea_ lol we were talking about that yesterday, speculation pointed to the indexes
21:06 wizzyrea_ er wait
21:06 jcamins No, that doesn't sound right. That makes it sound like I didn't do something dumb.
21:06 wizzyrea_ our problem was opposite that: no holdings in results but holdings show in detail
21:06 jcamins I'm pretty sure this is a misconfiguration on my part.
21:07 jcamins Oh, I think I know what it is.
21:07 jcamins I think I probably needed to have the library defined *before* importing the items.
21:08 wizzyrea_ oh, yes, that seems likely :P
21:10 jcamins Yeah, that fixed it.
21:10 jcamins Ooh.
21:10 jcamins This is very nice.
21:10 jcamins Who redid the Holdings table?
21:17 wizzyrea_ depends, which part do you like?
21:17 wizzyrea_ opac or staff?
21:17 jcamins The shelving location is now in italic underneath the library name.
21:17 jcamins OPAC.
21:17 wizzyrea_ that was probably owen :)
21:18 wizzyrea_ always thinkin that one ;)
21:18 jcamins owen++ # for probably making the Holdings table much nicer
21:22 sekjal goodnight, #koha
21:24 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #312: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/312/
21:24 hudsonbot Zach Sim: Bug 5327: Added unit tests to Output_JSONStream.t
21:29 rhcl From: OverDrive
21:29 rhcl Does the following make any sense to programmers?
21:29 rhcl Content Reserve requires Internet
21:29 rhcl Explorer 5.5 or higher because Content Reserve employs some protocols (for
21:29 rhcl example, JavaScript in html/css, ActiveX controls) that require IE 5.5 (or
21:29 rhcl higher).
21:30 jcamins Who administers koha-patches?
21:30 rhcl I guess it's the activex that's the problem
21:30 jcamins rhcl: ick. Well, at least everyone using IE is going to have 5.5 or higher...
21:32 chris 50.1% !!!
21:32 chris jcamins: biblibre
21:32 chris and rhcl what that tells me is
21:33 chris From: Overdrive
21:33 jcamins chris: I hope you're not saying that 49.9% of IE users have version 5.0 or earlier.
21:33 chris Hi
21:33 chris Our developers are lazy
21:33 chris kthxbye
21:34 chris jcamins: subroutine coverage by unit tests
21:34 chris http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/HTML_Report/?
21:35 jcamins @later tell hdl If you have a patch from me which is inline in an e-mail awaiting moderation to koha-patches, please delete it. I sent it wrong.
21:35 munin jcamins: The operation succeeded.
21:35 jcamins chris: woohoo!
21:36 chris we start this week with 1209 covered
21:36 chris 1293 now
21:36 chris hoping to hit 1300 by lunch
21:40 jcamins chris: this time I remembered to set the status of the bug to signed-off.
21:41 chris :-)
21:41 chris yep it pinged me
21:41 chris ill take a look and push it
21:41 jcamins :D
21:41 chris you confirm its working ok eh?
21:41 jcamins Yup.
21:42 * chris knows it works fine at catalyst
21:42 jcamins I really like it.
21:42 chris sweet good enough for me
21:52 jcamins Okay, I need opinions.
21:52 jcamins @marc 852
21:52 munin jcamins: Identifies the organization holding the item or from which it is available. May also contain detailed information about how to locate the item in a collection. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,p,q,s,t,u,x,z,2,3,6,8]
21:52 wizzyrea_ Blue, it's the new red
21:53 jcamins Should it be added to the Zebra index.
21:53 jcamins *?
21:53 jcamins Sneaky question mark, always eluding me today.
21:54 jcamins The ANS uses that index, and I'm trying to figure out whether that patch should be submitted or not.
22:00 hudsonbot Starting build 313 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:01 jcamins [crickets]
22:01 gmcharlt lazyweb question - are there any decent "powered by Koha" web badges floating around?
22:01 chris hmm i think so
22:01 * jcamins just borrowed the CSS from someone else's catalog
22:02 wasabi http://www.library.org.nz/ has one?
22:02 gmcharlt jcamins: I'm not so sure - if one is sure that the 852s are in fact years, sure, but indexing random 852s that you happen to have imported might not be so useful
22:02 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Added more unit tests to check when JSONStream should fail. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f0f2e297a7d7e51dc7503493025c14d39944757>
22:02 gmcharlt jcamins: that said, I've no objection to a new index on that
22:03 jcamins gmcharlt: yeah, this is where the ability to define indexes in the staff client would come in handy.
22:03 * jcamins thinks he may have stolen the CSS from library.org.nz.
22:11 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_5551 * rv3.02.00-577-g88601b7 10/ (installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl kohaversion.pl): Bumping Koha version
22:17 wizzyrea_ jcamins: I made the gnocchi again
22:17 wizzyrea_ ubernoms
22:17 jcamins wizzyrea_: I love those gnocchi.
22:17 jcamins I should make gnocchi again soon.
22:19 jcamins After we move, I think.
22:21 cait I killed my ubuntu :(
22:22 jcamins cait: oh no!
22:22 jcamins What happened to it?
22:22 cait never managed to kill a windoes - but killed my ubuntu
22:22 cait I tried to use 2 screens
22:22 jcamins cait: I've done that several times with my VMs.
22:22 cait and now all I get after reboot is a black screen... or 2
22:23 jcamins cait: oh, you can fix that.
22:23 jcamins Let me just look up how.
22:23 cait jcamins: that would be great
22:23 ibeardsle what I do is .. go back to the one screen
22:23 ibeardsle delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
22:24 cait the only way I can access data at the moment is with a ubuntulivecd on my windoes laptop and the harddrive as external via usb
22:24 jcamins sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
22:24 cait I have no terminal access :(
22:24 jcamins I know.
22:24 jcamins I'm giving you the steps backwards.
22:24 jcamins Why?
22:24 jcamins I don't know.
22:24 cait lol
22:24 chris hehe
22:24 jcamins Do you know if you're using grub?
22:24 cait um no
22:25 cait it's an ubuntu 10.10 if that helps
22:25 wizzyrea_ when it boots does it say "grub boot loader"
22:25 wizzyrea_ dual boot?
22:25 ibot dual boot is annoying
22:25 cait I have not seen that, but some screens are pretty fast
22:25 jcamins Do you have an installation disk for Ubuntu?
22:25 ibeardsle if you restart with just the one screen do you get anything useful?
22:25 jcamins Any version?
22:25 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #313: UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/313/
22:25 hudsonbot Zach Sim: Added more unit tests to check when JSONStream should fail.
22:25 wizzyrea_ it's probalby safe to assume if it's ubuntu only that she's using grub
22:25 wizzyrea_ you can't hardly avoid it
22:26 wizzyrea_ can* hardly, I mean
22:26 ibeardsle 10.10 uses grub2 by default .. which behaves slightly differently
22:26 wizzyrea_ i want to know how many times in my life i've typo'd "probably" to "probalby"
22:26 cait if you are going to ask if I can choose something while it starts- no
22:26 jcamins ibeardsle: yeah, I learned that the hard way last time I hosed Ubuntu.
22:27 jcamins Okay. Probably the easiest option is a boot disk. Do you have any Ubuntu installation CD?
22:27 jcamins Or any bootable Linux CD, for that matter.
22:27 cait and no - my livecd works only on the windowslaptop and not on the broken one
22:27 ibeardsle i reinstalled a machine acouple of times because I thought it was broken with the extra files in /boot/grub
22:28 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-577-gd640086 10/t/Output_JSONStream.t: Bug 5327 fixing missing number of tests
22:28 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
22:28 jcamins cait: wait, back up a bit. I missed something important.
22:28 jcamins You're able to boot the livecd on your laptop and access the hard drive?
22:28 cait nope
22:28 cait on the other laptop
22:28 jcamins I mean, on the other laptop.
22:28 wizzyrea_ you can't boot from the live CD t all
22:29 wizzyrea_ at*
22:29 cait I got the hard drive out and into the frame I have for my backup thingy - and started the other laptop from livecd
22:29 cait so I can access the data now
22:29 jcamins Okay. One moment while I find the exact commands you need.
22:29 jcamins Do you have a terminal up?
22:29 cait I am on windoes now - have to shut down this, start live cd, go into mibbit and get the hard drive into the frame
22:30 jcamins Ah.
22:30 jcamins Okay, let me think if I have a better solution.
22:30 jcamins I don't, sorry. It's easy to fix, but I don't know how to do it without booting from the livecd.
22:30 cait ok
22:30 cait i will hurry
22:31 wizzyrea_ ok, with the live CD what are the steps? (I'm curious_
22:31 jcamins Find out where the drive is mounted
22:31 jcamins chroot /mount/point
22:31 jcamins dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
22:31 wizzyrea_ oh, I think she could do that
22:32 wizzyrea_ with it plugged into a different machine
22:32 jcamins wizzyrea_: yeah, but she has to be running Linux. You can't chroot while booted into Windows. ;)
22:32 wizzyrea_ well NO
22:32 wizzyrea_ I thought you meant that the computer you wanted the screens on had to be where the drive was located
22:33 wizzyrea_ but I think I understand now lol
22:33 jcamins No, I just missed when she said she could access the hard drive from a livecd on her other computer.
22:33 jcamins It's confusing because I call both of them "laptop."
22:33 jcamins ;)
22:33 jcamins Also because I spent 6 hours caulking this morning.
22:34 jcamins Starting 12 hours ago.
22:34 * wizzyrea_ contemplates a comment about fumes, refrains.
22:35 jcamins :)
22:35 wizzyrea_ :D
22:36 chris thanks to zach
22:36 chris C4::Output::JSONStream has 100% statement and subroutine coverage
22:37 jcamins Woohoo!
22:37 wizzyrea_ thanks zach!
22:37 jcamins zach++
22:42 cait_mib back
22:42 jcamins Welcome back.
22:42 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327 fixing missing number of tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d64008644a72d88e8ab5442cb24ff64d23665a8f>
22:42 jcamins So you're booted into Linux with a livecd, and your drive hooked up as an external drive?
22:42 cait_mib had to open cdrom drive with something... because forgot the button is broken and after that had to search for my wlan password..
22:42 cait_mib hmpf!
22:43 cait_mib yep
22:43 jcamins Okay, this is pretty easy.
22:43 jcamins Do you know where the external drive is mounted?
22:43 cait_mib I can access that
22:43 * wizzyrea_ hands cait_mib some fudge
22:43 cait_mib thx liz :)
22:43 jcamins Okay, you'll need to open up a terminal.
22:43 cait_mib ok
22:44 jcamins Run the command `mount`
22:44 cait_mib ok
22:44 Nate g'night #koha
22:45 cait_mib good night Nate
22:45 hudsonbot Starting build 314 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #312 1 hr 47 min ago)
22:45 jcamins You should see two hard drives listed, probably something like /media/something and /media/somethingelse
22:45 cait_mib what am I looking for?
22:45 cait_mib 3 - but I think I have the one we are looking for
22:45 jcamins It's probably /dev/sda2
22:46 cait_mib hm /dev/sdb1?
22:46 jcamins Right.
22:46 jcamins That's what I meant.
22:46 jcamins Okay, where is /dev/sdb1 mounted?
22:47 cait_mib t
22:47 cait_mib t /dev/sdb1 on /media/e5f2d04f-ae80-4304-9c21-97fc63653f76
22:47 jcamins Ugh!
22:47 cait_mib it didn't like the / at the beginning
22:47 jcamins Well, at least you can copy and paste.
22:48 jcamins Now run `chroot /media/e5f2d04f-ae80-4304-9c21-97fc63653f76`
22:48 cait_mib permission problem
22:49 cait_mib I tried it with sudo and no message
22:49 jcamins Sorry, forgot about sudo.
22:49 jcamins Now run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server`
22:49 cait_mib does not look good :(
22:50 jcamins No?
22:50 jcamins What does it say?
22:50 jcamins Oh, it says that jcamins is dyslexic today.
22:50 cait_mib have to translate
22:50 jcamins No need.
22:50 cait_mib cannot create /dev/null...
22:50 cait_mib ok
22:50 cait_mib big X?
22:50 jcamins `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` ?
22:51 cait_mib different, but still permission problems
22:51 jcamins Hm.
22:51 cait_mib cannot create /dev/null
22:52 jcamins What have I missed?
22:52 jcamins (rhetorical question, I'll remember in a moment...)
22:53 jcamins `sudo rm /dev/null`
22:53 jcamins Then `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
22:53 cait_mib unable to resolve host ubuntu
22:53 cait_mib for the first one
22:54 jcamins Hm. That's a strange error.
22:54 cait_mib fle or directory not found without sudo
22:54 ibeardsle /dev doesn't always exist properly in a chroot
22:54 cait_mib and i don't see the directory in dev
22:54 jcamins ibeardsle: it did when I did this.
22:54 * si mutters "missing udev?" under his breath
22:55 jcamins ibeardsle: but apparently I was lucky.
22:55 si ohh, a chroot
22:55 * si goes back to his hole
22:55 si as you were
22:56 jcamins cait_mib: try this... `exit`
22:56 cait_mib hm, when I run the dpkg part without sudo I get no error message
22:56 cait_mib I get no message - good or bad?
22:57 cait_mib done the exit
22:57 jcamins mount --bind /dev /media/[that long string]
22:57 jcamins chroot /media/[that long string]
22:58 jcamins Actually, you'll need sudo for both of those, I think.
22:58 cait_mib yeah, did the first
22:58 cait_mib the second gives me an error
22:59 jcamins What's the error?
22:59 cait_mib cannot run command /bin/bash no such file or directory
22:59 jcamins Huh.
23:00 jcamins Now I'm confused, because that's where Ubuntu puts bash.
23:01 cait_mib it worked before
23:02 jcamins Typo?
23:02 cait_mib double checked
23:02 cait_mib not seeing one
23:02 jcamins Oh. I think I might know what it is. Run `mount` again.
23:02 cait_mib sudo mount --bind /dev /media/e5f2d04f-ae80-4304-9c21-97fc63653f76
23:02 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5327 fixing missing number of tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=649fd4952dd5e44daacf96df380796b835b55da5> / Added more unit tests to check when JSONStream should fail. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab3263e018fb35f32e53a7a9bea7bdb35147cf81> / Bug 5327: Added unit tests to Output_JSONStream.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit
23:02 jcamins cait_mib: oh, no, I know what it is. I'm sleepy and telling you dumb things.
23:03 cait_mib I have 3 lines for the media/... now
23:03 cait_mib you are the first person I asked today that has an idea what needs to be done
23:03 cait_mib nothing you say is dumb :)
23:03 jcamins `sudo umount /media/[whatever that is]`
23:04 jcamins (we're now making it failsafe so I don't give you bad advice again)
23:04 jcamins `sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt`
23:04 jcamins `sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev`
23:04 jcamins `sudo chroot /mnt`
23:04 jcamins `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
23:05 cait_mib unable to resolve host ubuntu
23:05 cait_mib *ducks*
23:05 wasabi lol
23:05 jcamins Argh!
23:06 * cait_mib hands wasabi a beer
23:06 wasabi i cant work out what the problem even is..
23:06 cait_mib perhals linux is not cait-safe enough...
23:06 wasabi cait_mib: are you trying to mount a cd?
23:06 cait_mib I am trying to repair that black screen on my laptop...
23:07 jcamins wasabi: we're trying to have Xorg repair its configuration since it's hardlocking her laptop.
23:07 cait_mib and until now it involved getting the hard drive out of that laptop, starting livecd on this one... adding external harddrive
23:07 wasabi ok...
23:08 jcamins wasabi: and for some reason it wants to connect to the internet to reconfigure X.
23:08 wasabi why not just reboot into single user mode…?
23:08 jcamins wasabi: we can't access grub...
23:09 jcamins And the livecd won't work in the computer that the hard drive belongs in.
23:09 wasabi … then reconfigure x.org, and reboot?
23:09 wasabi ok, a dead disk, i guess..
23:09 cait_mib wasabi: I found no way to do anything on the other laptop
23:10 cait_mib dead disk? I don't like the word dead in there!
23:10 jcamins wasabi: no, the disk is fine, grub just defaults to no pause.
23:10 wasabi sounds like a dead disk, or mobo
23:10 cait_mib and I can access the data
23:11 cait_mib I did a little backup earlier
23:11 wasabi ok, control-c on boot then, for single user mode
23:11 jcamins cait_mib: I have one more idea. Try this:
23:11 cait_mib saved some of the files on my usb stick
23:11 jcamins wasabi: really? I didn't know that.
23:11 cait_mib me neither
23:11 cait_mib and I googled a lot this evening
23:11 wasabi then reconfig x.org, and reboot ;)
23:11 cait_mib i can try that
23:12 cait_mib jcamins; what was your idea?
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23:12 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 fixing missing number of tests
23:13 jcamins cait_mib: I'm trying to find Xorg.conf, one moment.
23:13 cait_mib or better try mason's idea?
23:13 cait_mib you don't have to add cait_mib - I am all ears ;)
23:13 wasabi fyi: a grub defaulting to a no-pause is a FAIL
23:13 jcamins wasabi: I know!
23:14 wasabi and not the default either...
23:14 cait_mib I only wanted to use a second screen... *sighs*
23:14 jcamins Does X not have a configuration file anymore?
23:14 cait_mib I read about changes there
23:14 cait_mib in ubuntu 10.04 there was none I thik and not sure about 10.10
23:15 cait_mib read something on the ubuntuuser site earlier this evening
23:15 jcamins Okay, I'm out of ideas, then.
23:15 jcamins Try the ctrl-c suggestion.
23:15 cait_mib ok, trying wasabi's idea
23:15 cait_mib pretty easy to do - give me a moment
23:15 wasabi the problem is an easy fix, to me
23:15 hudsonbot Starting build 88 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #86 6 days 8 hr ago)
23:16 jcamins wasabi: yeah, it should be easy. I've done this to my installations before, and chrooting always worked.
23:16 cait_mib cannot unmount.. grr
23:16 jcamins Oh, type `exit`
23:16 cait_mib did that
23:16 cait_mib but still
23:17 wasabi fyi: cntrl-c or escape interupt grub too, no?
23:17 jcamins wasabi: no idea.
23:17 cait_mib says it's busy
23:17 cait_mib wasabi: i think I tried esape
23:17 jcamins cait_mib: that's weird.
23:18 jcamins Wait, how are you still talking to us if you're shutting down your computer?
23:18 cait_mib i am not shutting it down
23:18 cait_mib only removing the external hard drive
23:18 jcamins Oh.
23:18 jcamins Ohh.
23:18 jcamins Do you still have the terminal open?
23:19 jcamins Run `mount`
23:19 jcamins (to see where it's mounted)
23:19 jcamins Then manually run `umount /dev/sdb1` and run `mount` again to check that it's unmounted.
23:19 cait_mib ok
23:20 cait_mib no, control +c esc do not work
23:20 cait_mib esc made it beep angrily at me
23:21 jcamins cait_mib: sorry, I'm out of ideas if wasabi's suggestion didn't work. :(
23:21 wasabi pass…..
23:21 cait_mib :(
23:21 jcamins I know what's wrong, but I don't know how to fix it anymore.
23:22 wasabi both cntrl-c and esc work for my ubuntu and debian boxes
23:22 cait_mib grr
23:22 cait_mib sorry
23:22 cait_mib highly frustrated now
23:23 wasabi esc on grub, cntrl-c after kernel has loaded to drop to shell
23:23 wasabi the difference is, i dont run X on my boxes
23:23 cait_mib ok, perhaps a stupid question - but how does grub look like?
23:24 cait_mib it this the thing that shows up a millisecond between no boot cd and darkness?
23:24 wasabi i guess that might be the difference… X borks early and stops the ability to drop to the shell
23:25 wasabi pass, i cant see your screen, so i dont know where your box is hanging
23:25 cait_mib it's ok
23:25 cait_mib but I am still... a bit surprised that it was so easy to break it
23:26 cait_mib I have not expected that. hm.
23:26 jcamins I'm always surprised by how easy it is to break Ubuntu.
23:26 jcamins I should go work on packing now.
23:26 jcamins And eat dinner.
23:26 cait_mib thx jcamins for taking the time
23:26 cait_mib and wasabi too
23:26 jcamins cait_mib: I'm sorry I wasn't able to find the solution.
23:26 cait_mib will either reinstall it or finally decide about a new laptop
23:27 cait_mib perhaps I will carry it to work tomorrow and ask one of my coworkers
23:27 jcamins That's a good idea.
23:27 jcamins Good night, #koha
23:27 cait_mib and I have my files now - so there is a little success
23:28 jcamins_a :)
23:28 cait_mib sleep well
23:28 cait_mib bye all
23:41 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #88: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/88/
23:41 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Created unit testing using the testdatabase for XISBN.
23:41 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Added unit tests using a test database for XISBN.
23:41 hudsonbot * johnboy: bug 5327 updated test file
23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 shifting database dependent modules and scripts to t/db_dependent
23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 litte fix for Background tests
23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 - Fixing a path issue with XISBN.t
23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 Cleaning up XISBN.t a bit
23:41 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Added unit tests for Biblio and moved it to db_dependent as it requires the database.
23:41 hudsonbot * johnboy: Bug 5327 1 more test added.
23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: Little change to Record.t
23:41 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Added unit tests to test all of get_amazon_tld in Amazon.pm.
23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 - Now we are doing db calls, we need to shift this to t/db_dependent
23:41 hudsonbot * johnboy: Bug 5327 Some tests added
23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: Shifting and little tidy up of the members tests
23:41 hudsonbot * johnboy: Bug 5327 Made test file for Accounts.pm
23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: small typo in the Members.t test
23:41 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Bug 5327: Added unit tests to Output_JSONStream.t
23:50 jcam_and ITCH on a phone is weird.
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