Time Nick Message
23:57 jcamins_a And now, I *really* am leaving.
23:56 munin jcamins_a: The operation succeeded.
23:56 jcamins_a @later tell chris If it will help, I'll bribe you with a cookie...
23:56 munin jcamins_a: The operation succeeded.
23:56 jcamins_a @later tell chris I have tested and signed off on the patches for bug 4289.
23:42 jcamins_a Other than the updatedatabase issue.
23:41 jcamins_a wasabi: your patch works beautifully.
23:38 jcamins_a I need to revise a patch *two* patches back.
23:38 jcamins_a Argh!
23:36 jcamins_a The only conflict I see is updatedatabase.pl.
23:35 * chris ducks out for lunch
23:33 chris (just as an aside)
23:33 chris always use -3iu
23:32 jcamins_a git am $patchfile did something weird.
23:32 chris will send a patch in a bit
23:32 jcamins_a Okay, and, what's the proper command for git am?
23:32 wasabi claudia++ , thanks! :)
23:32 chris git am --abort
23:32 jcamins_a How do I undo a git am if it goes horribly wrong?
23:32 jcamins_a Actually, I think I just broke git.
23:31 chris i wouldnt be suprised, but thats nothing to do with the work we are doing
23:31 jcamins_a Fails on opac-showreviews.pl.
23:31 chris took the liblime kids one
23:30 chris t
23:30 chris a whole se
23:30 wasabi the 'general' one?
23:30 chris claudia has scaled them all to a better size and made them all have transparent backgrounds
23:30 chris but check out the little icon there
23:30 chris more likely just use a schema
23:30 chris but probably not
23:30 Brooke kia ora
23:29 chris maybe
23:29 wasabi in the future, a dir of DB patches, rather than 1 single conflict-prone file?
23:29 chris http://opac.opus.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1
23:29 chris check this out
23:29 chris one
23:29 chris just set it to xxx for your onwe
23:28 wasabi that conflict always p0wnz me, in my patches...
23:28 jcamins_a If that's it, it doesn't matter.
23:27 wasabi CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl
23:27 cait good night all
23:27 wasabi ahh, that old chestnut...
23:26 wasabi in hindsight… not the best commit to apply the patch too?
23:26 wasabi http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=e54169ba0f06cd835d72936e14012933a67793e7
23:25 jcamins_a wasabi: I'm going to see how bad the conflict is.
23:24 wasabi which was prolly the latest HEAD, at the time
23:23 wasabi oops, i the latest patch was applied to 'e54169ba0f06cd835d72936e14012933a67793e7'
23:21 jcamins_a Sadly that was after string freeze, I think.
23:21 wasabi fyi: it did apply OK to tag 'v3.02.00-rc'
23:20 wasabi i havent had time to redo it...
23:19 wasabi yep, me too ;)
23:19 jcamins_a The last thing I see, though, is "does not apply."
23:19 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4289 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Add a syspref 'OpacPublic', to hide OPAC search-bar and force authentication on all OPAC pages
23:19 wasabi bug 4289
23:19 jcamins_a Hm.
23:18 cait hm, chris - can you say something about your enh for acq? the budget table links to spend/avail.?
23:18 wasabi yes, and sent...
23:18 jcamins_a wasabi: did you redo your OpacNotPublic patch to have a positive syspref?
23:17 wasabi twas 95% merged for 3.2 a few months ago...
23:17 jcamins_a That reminds me.
23:17 jcamins_a :D
23:17 chris yup
23:17 jcamins_a chris: oh, I just realized... that is kind of the deadline, because of the T::T switchover.
23:17 wasabi ok, i can do that!
23:17 chris because after that we will be in template::toolkit land hopefully, and it will be harder to apply
23:16 chris yeah, i want it in the next week or so
23:14 jcamins_a :)
23:13 cait jcamins: I should hire you to set the deadlines for me
23:13 jcamins_a (some people work better under a tight deadline)
23:13 jcamins_a wasabi: next week.
23:10 wasabi in 4-ish months
23:09 wasabi whens the 3.4 deadline again?
23:09 wasabi yeah, sorry about the lateness on that one...
23:07 * chris wants that in 3.4
23:07 chris and send a patch/patches
23:07 chris on master
23:07 chris is you to rebase your 5 star ratings
23:07 chris wasabi: what i need
23:02 wasabi atm
23:02 wasabi i think more unit-test code is probably the best thing i could work on, for the koha project
22:55 cait :)
22:55 chris 1269 now
22:55 chris start of this week we had 1209 subroutines tested
22:55 chris http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/303/HTML_Report/?
22:55 chris check it out!
22:53 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: Little change to Record.t
22:53 hudsonbot * johnboy: Bug 5327 1 more test added.
22:53 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Added unit tests for Biblio and moved it to db_dependent as it requires the database.
22:53 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #303: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/303/
22:41 jcamins_a Oh, Kyle's server is down.
22:33 wasabi aaah, all good then hunny :)
22:33 * wizzyrea doesn't suspect malice here
22:32 wizzyrea so something's gone awry I think
22:32 wizzyrea I don't think so, it's hosted by kyle at meadville
22:32 druthb lol
22:31 * wasabi hopes kudos hasn't gone to join biblios.org at the devnull hotel
22:30 hudsonbot Starting build 303 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #296 23 hr ago)
22:30 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5327' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=73f0857003a049a2359c42a99d34760330153a73> / Bug 5327: Little change to Record.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=23f92a8f8dcded82bf5c3b319f373350a011e078> / Bug 5327 1 more test added. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5aa80408756c14565481259a927ab
22:22 wizzyrea on that like white on rice.
22:21 wizzyrea ya, that's where i was headed. :)
22:21 chris or i will
22:21 chris ask on the list
22:21 wizzyrea I'm not sure that it *was* moving, I was *hoping* that it was moving because it's baroooken.
22:21 chris wouldnt be the first time
22:21 chris or did they just turn it off
22:20 chris to even
22:20 chris where was it moving too?
22:20 chris yeah cos kudos.koha.org is not working
22:20 * wizzyrea fails
22:20 * wizzyrea tries to be optimistic
22:19 chris wheres it moving to?
22:19 wizzyrea (i'm wondering if I missed the memo that it was moving)
22:19 * druthb chuckles.
22:19 wizzyrea it's apparently broken?
22:19 chris thoughts?
22:14 wizzyrea no thoughts on the kudos website?
22:12 jcamins_a Good night, #koha
22:11 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
22:11 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-541-ga844a2b 10/t/Record.t: Bug 5327: Little change to Record.t
22:05 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
22:05 CIA-1 Koha: 03chansey.killer 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-540-g8554eaa 10/t/Record.t: Bug 5327 1 more test added.
22:04 CIA-1 Koha: 03joseph.zachariah.sim 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-539-g65e2cda 10/t/ (Biblio.t db_dependent/Biblio.t): Added unit tests for Biblio and moved it to db_dependent as it requires the database.
22:03 wizzyrea Did I miss a memo?
22:03 wizzyrea is that temp out of service for anyone else?
22:03 wizzyrea lolwut http://kudos.koha.org/
21:47 wizzyrea I was wondering why there had been fewer
21:47 wizzyrea woohoo!
21:46 wasabi wizzyrea: chris_n's blocked that fail-loop, i think
21:46 druthb hehehe
21:46 * wizzyrea goes back in her hole
21:46 wizzyrea der, I know that wouldn't work. Sigh.
21:46 ibot i don't know, wizzyrea
21:46 wizzyrea ibot: cgi users?
21:46 wizzyrea cgi users come from koha.org
21:46 ibot mibbit is linked from k-c.org
21:46 wizzyrea ibot: mibbit?
21:45 wizzyrea mibbit is linked from k-c.org
21:45 ibot wizzyrea: bugger all, i dunno
21:45 wizzyrea ibot mibbit?
21:45 wizzyrea that you know they're coming from koha.org
21:45 wizzyrea it's when you get the CGI's
21:45 wizzyrea mmm mibbit is linked from k-c.org
21:44 * wasabi shakes fist at lazy mibbit users!
21:44 jcamins Ah.
21:44 wasabi … responding to a private question, about prod and demo kohas?
21:44 chris not when the mibbit user is sitting next to me at the academy
21:43 jcamins wasabi: yeah, I got that, but the usual response to a Mibbit user involves mentioning that the Koha website is at http://koha-community.org/ etc., etc.
21:42 wasabi jcamins: chris is responding to a mibbit-user, i guess?
21:40 jcamins chris: huh?
21:40 chris demo.mykoha.co.nz
21:40 chris and www.library.org.nz
21:40 chris mib_zo6j8: http://library.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/
21:40 sekjal goodnight, #koha!
21:35 wasabi anyhoo, ive made 2 jquery discoveries, and solved my trival example, so i shut up now :)
21:33 wasabi $("#foo").after( cc );
21:32 wasabi var cc = $("#foo").clone();
21:32 wasabi yet, this after() example works too...
21:32 wasabi why, i dont know….
21:31 wasabi $("#foo").clone().insertAfter( $("#foo") );
21:30 wasabi but this works...
21:30 wasabi $("#foo").clone().after( $("#foo") );
21:30 wasabi jebus, so this fails...
21:05 wasabi $("#foo").clone().appendTo( $("#foo") );
21:05 wasabi even the appendTo() example duplicates the 'Hello' , (tho in the wrong element)
21:03 wasabi $("#foo").clone().after( $("#foo") );
21:02 wasabi clone the element, and add..
21:02 wasabi .
21:02 wasabi <b id="foo">Hello</b>
21:02 wasabi heres an element...
21:02 wasabi bah, why wont this work...
20:57 wasabi yeah, the floating left sidebar, seems to randomly reset the page-scroll to the top-of-page, when scrolling down :/
20:55 owen Weird
20:55 wasabi the jquery doco pages break when scrolling in my browser(opera), drives me f** crazy
20:54 wasabi oooh, thank you!
20:52 owen wasabi: have you seen http://visualjquery.com/? It seems to be a little behind version-wise, but is still very useful
20:52 wasabi but thanks for that one, owen
20:51 wasabi jebus, the appendTo() doco is a bit confusing on that point
20:49 owen Yeah, appendTo appends to the contents of the selected element
20:49 wasabi ahh, after
20:49 wasabi it clones the select, but inserts it *inside* the 1st select
20:48 owen Instead of appendTo() try after()
20:48 wasabi $("#myDroplist").clone().appendTo("#myDroplist");
20:48 wasabi this should work… but doesnt quite :/
20:48 owen clone() ?
20:47 wasabi how to clone a <select> drop-list, in jquery?
20:46 wasabi morning, a simple jquery Q...
20:45 jcamins I've got a feeling I'd hate any smartphone, though. I still don't want one.
20:38 cait :)
20:35 druthb yah, I think so
20:35 wizzyrea more towards the other end of the spectrum :P
20:35 druthb jcamins is in an emotional relationship with his phone, too, apparently.
20:35 wizzyrea (I love the dang thing)
20:35 wizzyrea I really, truly, honestly am in an emotional relationship with my galaxy :P
20:34 * wizzyrea notes that not all android phones behave that way
20:34 jcamins On the other hand, I'm not sure there's a phone that would actually make me happier.
20:34 wizzyrea lol
20:34 jcamins I was too busy being annoyed to think of that.
20:33 jcamins Interesting thought.
20:33 jcamins wizzyrea: hm.
20:33 wizzyrea anything that causes you that much consternation is probably not worth the hassle >.>
20:33 wizzyrea jcamins: is this a new phone? perhaps you should erm, exchange it >.>
20:32 cait lol
20:31 jcamins Okay, here's the plan: I always dial from the computer using Google Voice.
20:30 druthb My pre plus doesn't do that, which is probably a good thing.
20:30 * wizzyrea has a habit of removing batteries from annoying toys "it's tired honey, and wants to take a rest"
20:30 owen I feel that way about some of my kids' toys
20:30 wizzyrea ibeardsle: the samsung galaxy S GPS is well known to have issues
20:29 jcamins owen: yes, but that might be a feature... if the phone is dead, it's not irritating you.
20:29 wizzyrea (one reason to love your galaxy)
20:29 wizzyrea yea, apparently on the incredible HF is per app, not phonewide
20:29 jcamins "Disable dialer vibration" is the solution, apparently.
20:29 owen Sounds like it would drain your battery right away
20:28 wizzyrea the palm pre was one of the first to do it
20:28 jcamins STUPID!!!!
20:28 wizzyrea it's the little vibration when you push a virtual button on a touch screen
20:27 owen What is haptic feedback?
20:27 jcamins Understandably.
20:27 wizzyrea mostly "htf do I turn this *(&* off"
20:26 wizzyrea teh googlez has a lot to say about the haptic feedback on the incredible
20:26 wizzyrea jcamins or this: Settings -> Language & Keyboard -> Touch Input -> Text Input -> Vibrate when typing = unchecked.
20:25 wizzyrea maybe, if it is I'll be happy to have helped :P
20:24 jcamins That must be why.
20:24 * ibeardsle makes a note to check with other people
20:24 jcamins wizzyrea: no, I turned it off in the Sound section.
20:24 wizzyrea satellite GPS, that is
20:24 wizzyrea it was broken in NZ too :P
20:24 wizzyrea everywhere
20:24 wizzyrea in my experience, yes
20:24 ibeardsle all over or just in your area?
20:24 ibeardsle wizzyrea: the galaxy gps sucks?
20:24 wizzyrea is that where you turned it off?
20:23 wizzyrea To turn it off for the "keyboard" function go into settings, language and keyboard, and then the keyboard settings.
20:23 jcamins I'm going to have to root it to disable the haptic feedback and shouting.
20:23 wizzyrea then yea
20:23 wizzyrea oh ew
20:23 wizzyrea you can turn that off
20:23 jcamins I already disabled it twice. :(
20:22 wizzyrea OH that's the haptic feedback
20:22 paul_p owen: send a mail to hdl, I can't find the mailing list password :\
20:22 wizzyrea I love it, except for it's sucky gps
20:22 jcamins It vibrates when I'm trying to dial the phone.
20:22 * wizzyrea has a samsung galaxy
20:22 jcamins What, you could've told me it was going to irritate me? A friend of mine has it and loves it.
20:22 wizzyrea i think you're the first person I know who has said "my droid is dumb"
20:21 wizzyrea ohh
20:21 owen Catchy
20:21 jcamins HTC Incredible Stupidphone.
20:21 wizzyrea jcamins what kind of phone?
20:19 chris only biblibre can
20:19 chris i cant do the others
20:19 wasabi send her an email?
20:19 chris_n worked for me
20:19 chris ive blocked her on the main one
20:18 chris_n add her to your spam list
20:18 owen So no one here knows how to get Adrea Lund off the mailing lists until Feb?
19:59 magnus g'night #koha!
19:58 rhcl http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biblibre.com%2Fen%2Fblog%2Fentry%2Fubuntu-cest-frais-fruit%C3%A9-cest-l%C3%A9ger&act=url
19:58 rhcl google's translation seems pretty good
19:58 rhcl oops..
19:58 rhcl google
19:51 cait magnus++
19:50 * magnus is almost running out of his 1 hour hotel internet time...
19:49 * magnus hopes this is such a bad start, it will provoke people to make it better: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translating_Koha
19:47 jcamins Eventually I'll figure it out and love it, I'm sure, but seriously, this thing is staggeringly annoying.
19:46 jcamins I HATE THIS PHONE!
19:46 cait I think smartphones are not made to make calls...
19:46 jcamins STOP VIBRATING!!!
19:45 jcamins I want to make a phone call. With my phone. Seriously, shouldn't that be simple?
19:45 owen http://markdotto.com/playground/3d-text/
19:43 * magnus likes his dell latitude 13 - only 2 hours of battery though
19:43 chris thats often the thing that comes with some stupid proprietary driver
19:43 owen If figured that would be the sticking point
19:43 chris specifically the wifi card
19:43 paul_p in french only, sorry)
19:43 chris just google them before you buy it owen
19:42 paul_p he loves that !
19:42 paul_p it's Philippe, that is our new associates and has switched from win to ubuntu
19:42 chris dell are ok too
19:42 jcamins Then it broke.
19:42 magnus when we had the small "open source for libraries" conferene in norway i was just about the only one not using mac or linux - and i was laughed at - never again! ;-)
19:42 * druthb has a dell, and it's awesome.
19:42 paul_p have you read : http://www.biblibre.com/en/blog/entry/ubuntu-cest-frais-fruit%C3%A9-cest-l%C3%A9ger
19:42 cait I love my old acer travelmate... but don't know about newer models
19:42 jcamins If you want PC, I was very happy with my Fujitsu for a while.
19:41 * jcamins does
19:41 chris i dont hate toshiba
19:41 jcamins Grr. Stupid phone.
19:41 owen So who's got a favorite brand of laptop they want to sell me on?
19:40 chris and i still do :)
19:39 cait it's all his fault anyway - installed ubuntu on old laptop for kohacon - because he threatened to laugh at people with windows ;)
19:39 cait hehe
19:39 cait planning to buy a new laptop since before nz ... have not managed to decide for a model yet
19:38 jcamins cait: you'll get more brownie points with chris if you go with your proprietary OS in Virtual Box.
19:38 cait virtual box might be better
19:38 cait hm right
19:38 chris dual boot is annoying
19:37 chris ubuntu, with windows in virtualbox if you need it
19:37 * owen has been considering getting a laptop to install Ubuntu on
19:37 jcamins Try it w/Ubuntu... it might be better.
19:37 cait I favor really new laptop with dual boot... as next step
19:37 cait no, I hate the battery life of the newer laptop
19:36 jcamins cait: what about newer laptop with Ubuntu? :D
19:36 cait my personal laptop war - newer laptop with vista against very old laptop with ubuntu
19:35 jcamins Wins what?
19:35 cait I think ubuntu wins
19:35 * cait has decided to move thunderbird to old laptop
19:34 chris yep
19:32 magnus would plain old "Translating Koha" be an ok title for a wiki page? i could start it and others, more knowledgeable than me, could chime in
19:32 cait mmh
19:31 jcamins druthb: that recipe's really easy. 1 c. butter, 1-1/4 c. sugar, 1 tsp. vanilla, 1 tsp. lemon extract, 1/8 tsp. salt, 1 egg, 2 c. sifted flour (i.e., 1-3/4 c. flour), 2 c. chocolate chips. Bake at 350.
19:29 magnus with some hints on good software to use etc...
19:28 * druthb steals jcamins' cookie recipe, and dispatches the evil minion to make them.
19:27 chris we used to have one, a new one would be good
19:27 magnus koha in icelandic would be cool - looks like we could maybe use a translation 101 page on the wiki, or something?
19:26 * jcamins prefers piles of cookies
19:26 * magnus too
19:23 * owen prefers piles of koha work to any other kind
19:23 cait :)
19:22 chris its good that there is piles of koha work to do though :)
19:22 chris yeah most if it is not urgent, just piles of quotes i did before xmas that people have now okayed i can shuffle it :)
19:22 cait hm no, that doesn't work out
19:21 magnus lets see, 138 divided by 7 is... ouch!
19:20 ibeardsle heh
19:20 chris so most of my work is shuffling that around and just doing the urgent stuff
19:20 chris some clown booked himself 138 hours worth of work for this week (while robin is away)
19:19 chris will do, ill try and catch up on all my work
19:19 ibeardsle .. down for you
19:19 ibeardsle but wander up to be ready to go at 10 anyway
19:18 ibeardsle yeap it was murray
19:18 chris ahhh
19:17 ibeardsle although just checking who the text was from saying they trains were runnign late
19:17 ibeardsle yeap
19:17 chris ibeardsle: 10am today eh?
19:16 * chris clocks in from work
19:16 ibot thanks ibeardsle :)
19:16 ibeardsle ibot botsnack coffee
19:09 cait I think he is ok
19:09 cait he still eats
19:09 ibot :)
19:09 cait ibot botsnack cookie
18:59 ibot no idea, wizzyrea
18:59 wizzyrea ibot: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland?
18:58 jcamins I guess we've broken ibot of the habit of remembering everything munin says.
18:57 jcamins Huh.
18:57 ibot jcamins: no idea
18:57 jcamins ibot: druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Marylan?
18:56 munin druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 0.3�C (1:55 PM EST on January 18, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005.0 hPa (Steady).
18:56 druthb @wunder 20852
18:52 paul_p bon appétit chris
18:52 paul_p chris, very good time. A library with a simple and well defined project, i've seen my oncle that lives here for years. all in one, good !
18:52 * chris goes for breakfast bbiab
18:49 chris Hi paul, how was switzerland?
18:49 paul_p I confirm, it rains ;-)
18:49 munin paul_p: The current temperature in Metz, France is 7.0�C (7:30 PM CET on January 18, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
18:48 paul_p @wunder metz, France
18:48 wizzyrea brrrr
18:48 paul_p morning chris
18:48 munin wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -5.3�C (12:49 PM CST on January 18, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Watch in effect from Wednesday afternoon through late Wednesday night...
18:48 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks
18:47 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on January 19, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Rising).
18:47 chris @wunder wellington nz
18:47 chris You guys should organise a meetup he lives in your neck of the woods
18:46 jcamins cait: yeah, I need to.
18:46 cait jcamins: I think thd did the original version of the frameworks - perhaps you shoudl talk to him
18:46 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add 'get there' notes to tools
18:46 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #41: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/41/
18:45 cait hi chris
18:45 chris Morning
18:44 cait too tired to type
18:44 cait make that translation
18:44 cait and I have not translated those not showing up in the official german trnslations
18:43 cait I noticed when I translated the frameworks into German
18:43 cait not sure
18:43 jcamins I think we already do that for fields that were deprecated prior to 2007, don't we?
18:42 cait there are a lot of them
18:42 cait perhaps we can think about hiding the deprecated fields from the standard frameworks
18:42 cait cool :)
18:42 jcamins I just requested a computer-readable format of the spec from LC.
18:41 cait I have thought about it before :)
18:41 cait it's a good thing but I lack the skills to do it without a lot of manual work...
18:41 jcamins Yes. And by "we" I mean "I," of course.
18:41 cait hm
18:41 * cait tries to hide
18:41 jcamins We were talking about updating the MARC21 frameworks to match the current standard.
18:41 cait you were?
18:40 jcamins We were just thinking about you.
18:40 jcamins Hi cait.
18:40 druthb welcome back, cait. :)
18:39 cait hi #koha :)
18:38 jcamins Okay, I have asked LC CPSO if there is any machine-readable version of the MARC21 spec.
18:32 jcamins *weighs, even
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18:31 jcamins The MARC21 documentation ways 37 pounds.
18:26 nengard awesome
18:24 paul_p I had a meeting with 4 universities interested by Koha
18:24 * paul_p in Metz, NE of France
18:24 paul_p hello nengard
18:23 nengard hiya paul_p
18:22 paul_p hello everybody
18:15 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: update tools locations and add to label and patron creators
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17:35 sekjal mmm, that cake will go well with my lunch.
17:34 kf time to leave... bye all :)
17:34 druthb mmmmm
17:33 kf mmh cake :)
17:33 * owen shares cake
17:32 jcamins Happy birthday, owen.
17:32 kf oh yes -happy birthday owen!
17:31 druthb Happy birthday, owen! :)
17:31 nengard I just don't remember writing it
17:31 nengard kf, i have some about it in the manual :)
17:30 kf nengard: have seen something somewhere - not sure how it works :)
17:30 owen thanks nengard!
17:29 nengard thanks kf, i'll find that - i do believe you are right
17:29 nengard happy bday owen!!
17:29 kf nengard: I think there is a syspref for the fields?
17:28 * owen is a ripe old age
17:27 * wizzyrea is reminded that it is owen's birthday
17:25 chris_n howdy owen
17:25 chris_n iirc it uses some css and prints from the browser
17:25 * owen wonders whatever happened to kyle
17:24 chris_n who wrote it
17:24 chris_n I think kyle is the one
17:24 nengard oh ok
17:24 chris_n nengard: I think that is correct, but I'm not the author and we don't use it here
17:19 nengard chris_n regarding the quick spine label creator - am i right in assuming that it does not take into account any kind of lable template - it just prints at the top left of the page
17:19 * wizzyrea doesn't use that report, and only has a couple of libraries that use fines
17:19 * jcamins also doesn't use fines.
17:19 nengard :)
17:17 * owen is here but doesn't use fines
17:16 nengard guess everyone is on lunch
17:15 hudsonbot * Nicole C. Engard: update acq claims section
17:15 hudsonbot * Nicole C. Engard: add acquisitions claims section
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17:04 nengard and doesn't show anything about fines on it
17:04 nengard the overdues with fines report seems a bit wonky to me
17:04 nengard okay what is the difference between the 'overdues' and 'overdues with fines' reports?
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16:50 wizzyrea hehe
16:50 chris_n ok, break's over :)
16:50 chris_n the cat chased one under our house when I was growing up.... we moved out for a week
16:49 chris_n skunk essence....
16:49 * wizzyrea giggles a bit
16:49 * wizzyrea is reminded of the mythbusters where they sprayed themselves with skunk essence
16:49 * chris_n heads off to find the tomato juice
16:48 munin wizzyrea: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 06:58 PM, September 17, 2009)
16:48 wizzyrea @quote random
16:48 munin wizzyrea: Error: 'random' is not a valid id.
16:48 wizzyrea @quote get random
16:48 munin wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #114 added.
16:48 wizzyrea @quote add chris_n: maybe you mean "black" magic with reference to zebra? ;-) ; wizzyrea: correction: black magic of zebra :D ; sekjal: correction: "black and white striped" magic of zebra .... ; rhcl: zebra sounds like a skunk ; chris_n thinks is may smell occasionally too, like a pole cat.
16:47 chris_n like a pole cat
16:47 * chris_n thinks it may smell occasionally too
16:46 rhcl zebra sounds like a skunk
16:46 wizzyrea HAHA
16:45 sekjal correction: "black and white striped" magic of zebra ....
16:39 wizzyrea are you on the very latest version of koha (I assume you are)
16:38 wizzyrea correction: black magic of zebra :D
16:38 chris_n maybe you mean "black" magic with reference to zebra? ;-)
16:37 wizzyrea I don't have a good enough grasp on how the magic of zebra works to speculate, thusly all speculatious should be considered just that.
16:37 chris_n its probably not worth chasing atm
16:36 chris_n maybe
16:36 * wizzyrea really has no idea
16:36 chris_n they said they also saw this happen with on or two other items
16:36 wizzyrea I wonder if there's a point in the indexing where one reference to the item has been updated, but the other hasn't
16:36 chris_n maybe it comes and goes
16:36 chris_n but the catalogers noticed the same error last week, so...??
16:35 wizzyrea ours is 9 min, I think
16:35 chris_n zebra reindexes every 5 mins here atm
16:35 chris_n hmm... your screenshot is basically what we saw in our opac
16:35 wizzyrea but those items had circ'd, so that makes it a little different
16:34 wizzyrea FIXED with the reindexing Aug. 24. The catalog is Not Indexing Correctly, as some catalogers have discovered. We also noticed that the Search results list shows ‘old’ information about items recently checked in (or out). The Items tab of the Bib record should be correct.
16:34 wizzyrea and a reindex was apparently what fixed it
16:33 wizzyrea chris_n: we were seeing things like this http://content.screencast.com/users/neklstraining/folders/Jing/media/e31be476-5578-4ce1-b0f8-989797616f15/00000154.png
16:29 chris_n wizzyrea: thanks, I'd be interested to hear
16:28 wizzyrea chris_n: I'm trying to find what we know about that issue...
16:25 chris_n which I suppose agrees with the fact that it has not circulated yet
16:24 chris_n hdl: NULL for this item
16:22 chris_n hmm... no, but I can
16:22 chris_n well, it is comforting to know I'm not going insane... yet
16:22 hdl ?
16:22 hdl chris_n have you checked your items.onloan
16:21 wizzyrea but we ahve seen it
16:21 * chris_n wishes all problems would go away after a few ctl-F5's
16:21 wizzyrea i don't have specifics that detailed on when we saw that
16:21 wizzyrea !!
16:21 chris_n and not circulated yet
16:21 chris_n but this item was cataloged last week :-P
16:21 chris_n you might think that
16:21 wizzyrea maybe a lag issue?
16:20 wizzyrea it's something about the index
16:20 chris_n this occurred on multiple workstations; a few moments later.... the problem goes away
16:20 wizzyrea chris_n: we've seen that too
16:20 chris_n morning weirdness: we had a bib with an item attached; the item detail showed available; the opac search summary showed unavailable at the same time
15:57 kf a friend of mine did that for the fudge recipe - it was horrible ;)
15:57 kf although it can do mean things too... if you give it the ingredients for a recipe it will calculate the calories :(
15:57 kf wolfram_alpha++
15:55 collum math and movie quotes.
15:55 owen Do math and help me find what time IRC meetings are
15:54 nengard i'm sure they hoped it would do more than that :)
15:54 nengard for doing math?
15:52 collum that's what wolfram-alpha is for
15:52 nengard my brain is closed to all new math skills
15:51 nengard well she still has a chance to learn more
15:51 hdl my daughter too ;)
15:51 jcamins nengard++ # for excellence in mathematics
15:51 nengard hehe
15:51 nengard that's about it :)
15:51 nengard right
15:51 hdl nengard knows 1+1
15:51 nengard very much non nonsense - i promise!
15:51 jcamins You're perfectly good at math. :)
15:51 jcamins Right.
15:50 nengard nonsense? that I don't know math?
15:50 kf nengard: I saw some strange math in there... avoiding to look at it at the moment
15:50 nengard ??
15:50 jcamins nengard: nonsense.
15:48 nengard i'm no good at math
15:48 nengard too much math going on there
15:48 nengard agreed
15:46 * owen finds acquisitions very confusing
15:45 nengard i haven't
15:43 kf nengard: saw your mail about acq - have you checked with funds and child funds? I think the base level is probably relating to the parent/child fund, when you have more levels. I tested that, but have recreated my database since :(
15:18 jwagner OK, going to hit the road now -- hope they're all sanded....
15:13 kf writing documentation for my coworkers - looking at patron sysprefs today
15:13 kf sekjal: perfect - don't to file a bug then :)
15:13 kf it puts the acctdetails pref and the ACCTDETAILS pref into one entence
15:13 sekjal kf: yes. I think there was a patch to correct the language, but it hasn't been pushed yet, apparently
15:12 kf than the sys pref editor is wrong
15:12 kf ok
15:12 sekjal it's best set to 'first valid"
15:12 sekjal yes, overdue notices DO consult AutoEmailPrimaryAddress
15:11 jwagner kf, it was, but druthb did a patch a while back to make the overdue notices obey that syspref. NOt sure if that got pushed.
15:07 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=C4/Letters.pm
15:07 kf not sure I read the code right - can someone check?
15:06 kf hm, looking at the sys pref editor I wonder - is AutoEmailPrimaryAddress only for ACCTDETAILS notices?
15:04 druthb sekjal++ # for some quick-thinking JQuery goodness
14:41 jwagner We had a nasty mixture of snow, sleet, and freezing rain. It's melting off now, but I'm going to give it another hour or two before I venture out on the roads....
14:40 owen Just rain here.
14:32 jwagner Well, there's some ice _down_ :-)
14:23 owen So what's up #koha?
14:08 mirbolt cheers for the assistance
14:07 jcamins mirbolt: yeah, you should *definitely* upgrade.
14:07 mirbolt oh well, i needed something to push me into upgrading, this might just be it
14:04 mirbolt hmm, perhaps it is just 3.2 as i can't find it when i search my system prefs
14:04 jcamins It's certainly in 3.2, and maybe in 3.06 (I just noticed you said you were on 3.0).
14:03 jcamins That's the syspref.
14:03 jcamins opacSerialDefaultTab
14:03 mirbolt damn. thanx anyway
14:02 jcamins mirbolt: I think there is, but I don't remember how.
13:59 mirbolt hi there. i'm using 3.06. when i click on a bib record in the opac which has a serial sub attached, is there any way to make the subscription tab highlighted by default, rather than the holdings tab?
13:59 kf thx jared :)
13:59 jcamins kf: That looks correct.
13:57 kf is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze up to date?
13:46 schuster Flu that is.
13:46 schuster not to mention that both of my boys are at home with the Flue
13:45 schuster Board meeting tonight - so this week is going to be ugly as RIF and possible positions are on the table.
13:40 * druthb waves to schuster
12:59 magnus gotta find my plane now, bye #koha!
12:59 magnus thanks
12:57 kf hope you have a lot of fun :)
12:57 kf :)
12:50 magnus kf: not there yet, waiting for the plane from OSL to HEL, the fun starts tomorrow!
12:49 jwagner Hi kf
12:48 kf how is the conference?
12:47 magnus hiya kf
12:45 kf hi nengard, hi jwagner
12:45 kf hi druthb hi magnus :)
12:43 nengard they're saying it will be better this afternoon
12:43 nengard yup
12:43 magnus nengard: it'll melt, eventually... ;-)
12:40 nengard yes magnus, sorry I wasn't clear on that :)
12:40 jwagner Hi magnus and druthb
12:39 * druthb waves to jwagner.
12:38 magnus g'day jwagner
12:37 magnus ah, salt for roads, not food... probably best to stay indoors ;-)
12:36 nengard i'll stay home under the covers on my couch instead :)
12:36 nengard so i'm going to guess no luck
12:36 nengard and i'm sure everyone else is doing that too
12:36 nengard none in the house ... would have to go out to the store for some
12:35 magnus hiya nengard, finding any salt?
10:27 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 Cleaning up XISBN.t a bit
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10:25 kf good night chris
10:06 * chris heads to bed
10:06 chris and some new icons being designed, i think for the first time most of them have ever seen perl or linux, they are doing pretty damn well
10:04 chris right, bedtime, we have moved from 1209 subroutines covered by tests to 1226
09:57 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5327' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=22e5f27ff42d64f84971155f062db901ea3813f3> / Bug 5327 Cleaning up XISBN.t a bit <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4093615e9f2f79f8738769edbfb4b41733b284da>
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09:52 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
09:52 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-538-g4093615 10/t/db_dependent/XISBN.t: Bug 5327 Cleaning up XISBN.t a bit
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09:29 hudsonbot chris: job koha_master build scheduled now
09:29 chris !hudson build koha_master now
08:40 ivanc guten morgen kf :)
08:39 kf hi ivanc
08:07 ivanc hi #koha
08:06 francharb hello all
08:03 kf sorry, running around office and not really awake yet
08:03 kf hi chris - ok - so we require them
08:02 chris hi hdl
07:57 hdl hi all
07:55 chris until we get the installer to use en only for sysprefs
07:55 chris otherwise a new install will have missing sysprefs (if its installed in anything other than english)
07:54 chris but they still currently need to exist
07:54 chris kf: for now we dont bother translating them
07:39 kf do we still maintain all language files? or is someone working on making the en file standard?
07:38 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5474 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Missing sys prefs in translated sysprefs.sql
07:38 kf ?
07:38 kf what is the status of bug 5474
07:37 kf lots of academy patches :)
07:37 kf hi chris
07:35 chris hi kf
07:29 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 - Fixing a path issue with XISBN.t
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07:24 kf good morning #koha
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06:55 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5327' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c0b51460ea812c27f75058ba33c5e99d1a8e9e3> / Bug 5327 - Fixing a path issue with XISBN.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71a7d2ad389ff946c5fc65293240caf3d3e290f6>
06:53 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
06:53 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-537-g71a7d2a 10/t/db_dependent/XISBN.t: Bug 5327 - Fixing a path issue with XISBN.t
06:39 chris evening
06:28 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5474 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Missing sys prefs in translated sysprefs.sql
06:28 cait bug 5474
06:21 cait hi Amit
06:21 Amit heya cait
06:16 cait good morning #koha
05:27 pianohack wasabi: What happened with js?
05:18 wasabi yo amit
05:17 Amit heya mason
05:14 wasabi better luck tmrw
05:14 wasabi damn, i spent a whole day deep in the js/jquery FAIL-MATRIX
04:50 pianohack Hi Amit
04:50 ibot pianohack is pianohacker
04:50 Amit heya pianohack
04:19 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 litte fix for Background tests
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04:07 Oak things are ok :)
04:04 druthb how are things on your side of the world?
04:04 druthb Doing well. :)
04:03 Oak hiya druthb :) how are things?
03:55 hudsonbot Starting build 299 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #296 5 hr 10 min ago)
03:55 druthb howdy, Oak! :)
03:54 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 shifting database dependent modules and scripts to t/db_dependent
03:54 hudsonbot * johnboy: bug 5327 updated test file
03:54 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Added unit tests using a test database for XISBN.
03:54 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Created unit testing using the testdatabase for XISBN.
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03:51 Oak \o
03:44 Amit heya druthb
03:43 druthb Hi, Amit. :)
03:43 Amit heya all
03:42 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327 litte fix for Background tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8ba99e155cc3357edfc30c23e4b4e5797b241c3>
03:38 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
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03:20 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
03:20 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-536-geff2176 10/t/ (158 files in 42 dirs): Bug 5327 shifting database dependent modules and scripts to t/db_dependent
03:11 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
03:11 CIA-1 Koha: 03chansey.killer 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-535-gcc039cd 10/t/Record.t: bug 5327 updated test file
03:04 CIA-1 Koha: 03joseph.zachariah.sim 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-534-g52762c6 10/t/db_dependent/XISBN.t: Added unit tests using a test database for XISBN.
02:56 CIA-1 Koha: 03joseph.zachariah.sim 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-533-g7d7df6a 10/t/ (XISBN.t db_dependent/XISBN.t): Created unit testing using the testdatabase for XISBN.
02:46 wasabi Silens: thanx for yr help, im nearly finished my problem
02:45 Silens wasabi: if you pm me your code and your problem I'll try and help you.
02:44 wasabi but ive got a little problem switching between the 2 syntaxes in code
02:43 wasabi i know a little js, and i know a little jquery...
02:40 wasabi atm jquery is a brainfuck, for me
02:38 wasabi ooh, im having a little more luck...
02:37 Silens wasabi: if you go rows.html('<td>test1</td><td>test2</td><td>test3</td>'); you should be able to change the html inside the rows.
02:34 wasabi it seems to be obv. enuff that theres not much doco on it, on the web
02:34 wasabi .
02:34 wasabi i think my problem is i cant work out the syntax to manip the obj, after i have one
02:32 wasabi selecting stuff into the 'rows' var isnt my problem - i can do that just fine :)
02:32 wasabi but i want to learn how to manip the 'rows' variable
02:31 wasabi Silens: yes, it does work :)
02:31 wasabi its great that i can use jquery to select stuff into a var/obj, but i cant work out the syntax to manip that obj with jquery *after* ive got it :/
02:30 Silens unsure but var rows=("#mytable tr"); might work
02:29 wasabi pass...
02:29 wasabi var rows = $( foo(tr) ); ?
02:28 wasabi var rows = $foo(tr) ?
02:27 wasabi ?
02:27 wasabi var rows = foo.$(tr);
02:26 wasabi like, give me all rows of that table...
02:25 wasabi how do i use jquery manipulation on that var? i cant work out the syntax :/
02:24 wasabi var foo = $("#mytable");
02:24 wasabi but if i cp that jquery selection to a variable ...
02:23 wasabi thats great….
02:23 wasabi $("#mytable").css({'background-color' : 'yellow' } );
02:22 wasabi i have a jquery object, and can change the color, like this...
02:21 wasabi a stupid basic jquery question anyone?
00:13 ibeardsle good to see a bot working hard ;)
00:09 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Added extra unit tests to Debug.t
00:09 hudsonbot * johnboy: bug 5327 started testing
00:09 hudsonbot * johnboy: Bug 5327 Starting tests for BackgroundJob
00:09 hudsonbot * spartaness: Bug 5327 Starting Unit Tests for Auth.pm
00:09 hudsonbot * claudia: Bug 5327 removing uneeded tests
00:09 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5399: Follow up style patch, moving exits out of subroutine
00:09 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: Bug 5399: remove useless eval 'use C4::Foo'
00:09 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Adding a new developer to the history
00:09 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 5403 Remove DisplayISBN and GetPublisherNameFromIsbn
00:09 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Bug 5327 - Adding UNIT Tests.
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