Time Nick Message 01:22 druthb howdy, from beautiful southern California. :) 01:22 chris heya druthb 01:22 druthb hi, chris. :) 01:24 druthb I see the news finally made it out. :) 01:24 chris yep, even on marshalls site 01:24 druthb :-O holy moly! 01:26 druthb Hee hee... Subject: Executive Appointments? 01:26 * druthb giggles like crazy 01:26 chris hehe 01:28 druthb kinda nifty, though. Never thought I'd see my name on Marshall's site, ever. 01:29 druthb @karma druthb 01:29 munin druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 51 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 51. 01:29 druthb ooooo 01:30 druthb @karma 01:30 munin druthb: Highest karma: "chris" (233), "gmcharlt" (209), and "owen" (203). Lowest karma: "<!" (-79), "failed" (-49), and "-" (-32). You (druthb) are ranked 12 out of 1138. 02:07 robin <!++ 02:14 chris heh 02:54 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 4945 - Patron search is limited by default to the currently logged-in... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=98efac4c0a3c6dfd857901ce6c639f93bcda8b76> 02:55 sekjal flying just gets worse every time... ::sigh:: 02:57 chris speaking of worse 02:57 chris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYUpkPTcqPY&feature=youtu.be 02:57 chris the floods in australia are mental 03:00 sekjal ugh, that's way too much water where it shouldn't be 03:00 hudsonbot Starting build 277 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) 03:02 sekjal I will readily admit that's much worse weather than Charolette, NC got 03:03 chris apparently the floods cover mrore area than texas 03:03 chris http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40862006/ns/weather/ 03:04 chris most of that has gone down now, but they are still getting flash floods and apparently brisbane is getting pretty floody today 03:04 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/4526878/Flood-toll-to-rise-weather-hits-Brisbane 03:24 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #277: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/277/ 03:24 hudsonbot Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4945 - Patron search is limited by default to the currently logged-in library 03:32 Oak \o 03:41 Amit heya all 03:55 sekjal should I be adding system preferences to the non-English installer syspref.sql files? 03:55 sekjal or does it just create more work for someone else down the line? 03:55 chris yes 03:55 chris no 03:55 chris add them, but dont bother translating them 03:55 sekjal oh good 03:55 chris because the translations are handled by the .pref files and .po files now 03:55 sekjal my Italian and French are non-existent 03:55 chris but if they sysprefs dont exist 03:56 chris then when you do an install in one of those languages, they simply dont get made 03:58 sekjal okay, good, glad I'm on the right track. It's a fair amount of extra work to do if it's not helpful 03:58 chris *nod* yeah it is helpful, eventually we will fix the installer to use the english syspref file plus the translations 03:59 chris and then it wont be nessecary, but until then, it does mean a fresh install in a language other than english, actually works 04:01 sekjal perhaps this is something I could script... 04:02 sekjal or maybe create some aliases or something so I don't have to remember the different paths each time 04:02 chris well if you are gonna do that, might be less work to fix the installer :) 04:03 chris basically it just needs to overrule the language choice for hte sysprefs file 04:03 chris use the language specific files for the sample news, branches, whatever else 04:03 sekjal worth a look 04:03 chris but always use the english one for the sysprefs 04:04 chris and then as long as they have hte prefs.po file up to date 04:04 chris it will just work :) 04:05 * chris goes to catch his bus 05:21 cait morning #koha 05:21 druthb hi, cait! :) 05:22 * druthb still hasn't gone to bed yet, but it's only 21:20 here.... 05:31 cait hi druthb :) 06:28 cait morning sekjal :) 06:29 sekjal I suppose it is back home.... 06:29 sekjal I'm camped out in the Phoenix, AZ airport for the night 06:29 sekjal oh, and, hi cait! 06:30 cait oh :( 06:30 cait snow? 06:33 sekjal yes, there was quite a bit in Charolette, NC, where my flight connected, enough to delay me into landing after my connection took off 06:33 sekjal next flight is tomorrow morning 06:34 cait that's bad :( 06:34 cait morning hdl 06:35 hdl hi cait 06:35 hdl hi sekjal 06:35 sekjal hi hdl 06:43 cait ok, time to go 06:44 cait see you later 07:03 francharb hello all 07:40 kf hi #koha 07:41 glernil Good day1 07:41 glernil Good day! 07:46 glernil What should I do if I want to catalog the CD-ROM attached to a book? Should I enter it as an item under the record of that book? Or should I create a separate record for the CD-ROM? 07:51 chris You probably want to ask a cataloguer that 07:52 chris Koha will let you do it either way 08:10 magnus kia ora, #koha 08:11 kf kia ora magnus 08:25 hdl hi all 08:27 magnus bonjour, hdl 08:36 sekjal time to get some sleep... cheers, #koha 09:34 paul_p hello everybody 09:35 magnus kia ora paul_p 09:36 paul_p kia ora magnus 09:39 chris ur welcome 09:39 chris hi paul_p, hdl and magnus 09:39 hdl hi chris 09:39 magnus hiya chris 09:40 paul_p hello chris. 09:41 Amit heya hdl, paul_p 09:41 kf hi chris 09:41 kf hi Amit 09:41 Amit hi kf 09:42 kf paul_p: saw your mail - will not have much time to participate in the qa session today 09:42 kf paul_p: long list of tickets waiting for attention - but hope it goes well 09:44 paul_p kf: too bad you can't be with us [I hope we'll have some ppl to test] 09:45 kf perhaps in the afternoon... It would be more fun than what I have planned for today. 09:55 CIA-1 Koha: 03nengard 07new/enh/bug_5604 * rv3.02.00-506-g1cacd48 10/koha-tmpl/ (12 files in 2 dirs): bug 5604 additional icons in the Seshat icon set 09:55 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5604 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, additional icons for the Seshat set 09:58 chris http://cia.vc/stats/project/Koha/.message/223f 09:58 chris i quite like that 09:59 chris http://cia.vc/stats/project/Koha 10:03 CIA-1 Koha: 03nengard 07kcmaster * rv3.02.00-506-gd1ef831 10/koha-tmpl/ (12 files in 2 dirs): bug 5604 additional icons in the Seshat icon set 10:03 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5604 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, additional icons for the Seshat set 10:03 markk good morning to all :) 10:04 CIA-1 Koha: 03nengard 07new/bug_5492 * rv3.02.00-507-g4173f22 10/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools/import_borrowers.tmpl: bug 5492 update import patrons page title 10:04 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5492 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, import patrons page title reads 'cataloging' 10:06 chris hi markk 10:06 markk hi chris 10:06 markk how r u doing today 10:07 chris just about to go to sleep :) 10:08 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5492 update import patrons page title <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4173f2221fd0387e670c40bd4da18223e79f2244> / bug 5604 additional icons in the Seshat icon set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1ef8313609bb5617a6c3439b55da5e4df96e88f> 10:09 kf CIA-1 botsnack cookie 10:09 kf hm. 10:09 chris it doesnt do anything like that 10:09 kf but he can write in color :) 10:09 chris yup :) 10:09 kf munin botsnack cookie 10:09 munin kf: Error: "botsnack" is not a valid command. 10:09 chris its run from here http://cia.vc/stats/project/Koha 10:09 chris and it watches all my branches 10:09 chris of my release repo 10:11 markk well my day just started, seems like i'm on the other side of the planet :P .. have a nice night 10:13 chris kf: ill leave it on for a while if it gets annoying ill turn it back off, i just thought it might be useful for people to see what i am doing on other branches (not just the master one) 10:13 chris but now im gonna sleep 10:13 * chris wanders off 10:16 markk kf: hi :) ... have u noticed the counter "Used in" not working (or at least that what i assumed) while searching for authorities in the staff interface? 10:16 hudsonbot Starting build 278 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 10:17 kf markk: it was empty at the beginning 10:17 kf but it was filled once we added analytics 10:17 kf working analytics (required adding fields to 773 in the framework first) 10:17 kf showing the number of linked analytics 10:17 kf so I think it's working, but can be confusing at first glance 10:18 kf not sure "used in" is a good label for the column 10:18 kf but I am not a native speaker 10:19 markk mmmm i c ... so this field doesn't count how many item we have for that particular author, right? 10:26 kf markk: sorry, I thought you were talking about analytics 10:26 kf because this is a new field related to that feature 10:26 markk oh ok, no prob :) 10:27 markk so i should ignore it ? 10:27 kf I am a bit confused now - which version are you testing? and unimarc or marc21? 10:28 markk version 3.2 and marc21 10:28 kf I never noticed the used in field there 10:28 kf where do you see it? 10:29 markk while searching for an author in the staff client 10:29 kf the first time I ran into it was some days ago when testing a development branch for a new feature - so I might have confused something here - perhaps 2 different things with the same label 10:29 kf using advanced search for author? 10:30 kf or searching in authorities? 10:31 kf ah I see it 10:31 markk searching in authorities ... gave "%" as a keyword to get all that i have 10:31 kf it's in authorities search 10:31 markk yep 10:31 kf % didn't work for me 10:31 kf 0 results 10:31 kf when I search für müller, I get my list 10:31 kf and see the used in column 10:32 kf if you have 0 biblio(s) there and you think the counter should show something - your authorities are probably not correctly linked 10:32 markk mmmmm ... maybe i'm getting them because of the NoZebra option? 10:32 markk mmmm how should they be linked? 10:32 kf you are not using zebra? 10:32 markk no 10:32 kf ah 10:32 kf not sure how it works then 10:33 kf what I know is that the counter is correct for us 10:33 kf if the title record has the auth# in $9 10:33 kf this happens automatically if you link from cataloging 10:33 kf if you have migrated your data it might be more complicated to get the number in the record 10:34 markk mmm ok .. didn't migrate it yet .. just testing with few records i added manually 10:35 kf try using the ... behind an authority field 10:36 kf in cataloging 10:36 markk u mean while adding a new marc record? 10:36 kf there are also some sys prefs for authorities that might be interesting 10:36 kf yes 10:36 markk ok .. it opens a popup window to choose an author 10:38 markk chose one 10:38 markk and 100$9 100$a are filled 10:38 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #278: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/278/ 10:38 hudsonbot * Nicole Engard: bug 5604 additional icons in the Seshat icon set 10:38 hudsonbot * Nicole Engard: bug 5492 update import patrons page title 10:51 ivanc hi #koha 10:51 ivanc hallo kf 10:51 ivanc hi magnus 10:52 magnus hiya ivanc 10:52 kf markk: when you check that author in authority search now the counter should show 1 10:53 kf and the link will start a search that brings up this title 10:53 kf hi ivanc 10:54 markk nope ... the counter still at 0 ... but the link brings back the two titles 11:01 kf hm 11:01 kf I have no experience with nozebra 11:01 kf not sure how the link in generated 11:03 markk mmm 11:13 markk thanks for helping mate :) 11:21 kf no problem 11:37 kf_a lunch :) 12:06 slef did I get confused or is there a meeting now? 12:07 kf_a slef: do you mean the qa meeting? 12:08 slef kf: the biblibre one 12:10 kf I think it's an informal meeting 12:10 paul_p slef, hello 12:10 paul_p yes, there is a meeting, and yes it's informal ;-) 12:12 paul_p and it seems you're the only one interested by testing our branch [if you're interested] :\ 12:14 slef I'm only able to watch during this time period, sorry. 12:14 kf paul_p: I think perhaps a little bit later - most USians are still missing 12:14 slef I don't know if davi has time? 12:14 kf and the bywater people are away this week 12:15 slef kf: they're away? Odd time to issue multiple news releases, then. 12:16 kf hm multiple? 12:18 slef kf: didn't they welcome jcamins and druthb? 12:18 kf ah 12:18 kf thought I missed something :) 12:20 kf ok, back to fines and notices 12:20 kf ... hmpf. 13:00 kf hi jwagner 13:02 jwagner Hi kf 13:11 paul_p2 'morning jwagner 13:12 jwagner Bonjour paul_p2 13:13 paul_p there's only 1 paul, and it's me :D 13:13 owen Hi #koha 13:14 paul_p 'morning owen 13:16 jwagner paul_p, you mean you haven't finished the cloning feature? 13:17 paul_p jwagner: unfortunatly no. Or fortunatly, depending on wether you prefer to have only 1 paul or no ;-) 13:17 * paul_p can't imagine the world with clones... 13:18 jwagner But multiple paul_ps could get more work done :-) 13:30 sylvar maybe we need paul_p0:0, paul_p0:1, etc. 13:32 paul_p jwagner: yes, but it "good" ppl could be cloned, you can be sure evil ppl would be. So I prefer not to have this option... 13:39 jwagner Hmmmmmmm 13:39 * jwagner prefers not to comment on good versus evil :-) 14:15 fcapo hello, I got a problem, when I try to checkout an item to a patron, I get this message : * Patron has had overdue items and is blocked for 20978 day(s). 14:15 fcapo I there a way to unblock the patron? 14:34 slef @marc 250 a 14:34 munin slef: Edition statement 14:36 fcapo To answer my own question : There is no way to unblock a suspended patron, but setting the suspension time to 0 in the issuing rules table unblocked the patron. 14:36 fcapo We didn't intend to use per-day suspension in our library anyways, setting the suspension time was an error 14:52 owen paul_p: I'm trying to check out origin/new/awaiting_qa/enh/bug_5575 for testing 14:52 owen I updated updatedatabase and kohaversion.pl and I've been prompted to update the database. So far so good 14:52 owen Now I'm asked to update from .054 to .055 and I'm stuck in a loop 14:53 owen [Tue Jan 11 09:51:44 2011] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha`.<result 2 when explaining filename '#sql-349_e30'>, CONSTRAINT `auth_subfield_structure_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`authtypecode`, `tagfield`) REFERENCES `auth_tag_structure` (`authtypecode`,) at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl l 14:53 owen ine 4447. 14:57 paul_p owen, you should not be stuck in a loop just for this. Maybe chris has forgotten something in updatedatabase (ie: to define the new number) 14:57 paul_p i'll check in a few minuts. 15:00 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: bug 5492 update import patrons page title <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bafc7217a8d51352b35aa4c89bdab3543754cbb4> / bug 5604 additional icons in the Seshat icon set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=52a7c1bd123c107d93c23d4f1edae733a9043593> / Fix for Bug 4945 - Patron search is limited by default to the currently logged-in... <http://git.koha-community.org/g 15:05 hudsonbot Starting build 78 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: FIXED) 15:23 paul_p owen ? 15:23 owen Yes 15:23 paul_p the updatedatabase is not correct : 15:23 paul_p http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl;h=3bb9f765999c4fdc4a76b1b4893b8fb899ad4d2d;hb=refs/heads/new/awaiting_qa/enh/bug_5575 15:23 paul_p 4436 $DBversion = "3.03.00.XXX"; 15:23 paul_p (I putted those XXX to let chris define the version. I suspect he will decide only when pushing to master) 15:24 owen paul_p: I must not have a fresh copy of that branch 15:26 paul_p owen, if you want to use borrowers.git.biblibre.com, feel free (it's a default install, with just a few informations entered by me) 15:26 paul_p like test/test 15:29 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #78: SUCCESS in 27 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/78/ 15:29 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4945 - Patron search is limited by default to the currently logged-in library 15:29 hudsonbot * Nicole Engard: bug 5604 additional icons in the Seshat icon set 15:29 hudsonbot * Nicole Engard: bug 5492 update import patrons page title 15:34 owen http://www.hudson-labs.org/content/hudsons-future 15:47 chris_n sounds like a familiar tune to me.... 15:47 kf chris_n: testing fines and notices 15:47 kf I wonder if line breaks are allowed in <item> </item>? 15:48 kf or to rephrase: it works - but I only get one overdue item listed instead of all 3 15:48 kf and wondered if this might be the reason 15:49 chris_n kf: which bug is this? 15:49 kf no bug yet 15:49 kf wondering if it is a bug 15:49 kf I checked out 3 items, same due date 15:50 kf and all my notices only list one of those due items 15:50 * chris_n looks 15:50 kf the <items.content>> syntax lists all three 15:51 chris_n multiple items appear in the overdue notices sent from my production system 15:52 kf so it's something in my notice template breaking it? 15:52 chris_n item due notices still appear to send one notice per item, however 15:52 kf can you pm me the template you use? 15:52 chris_n let me look at the tmeplates 15:52 chris_n templates even 15:52 kf chris_n: yes, that works only with digest and <<count>> 15:52 kf chris_n: which version is your production system? 15:53 kf I should probably checkout 3.2.2 and test again... not master. hmpf. 15:54 pastebot "chris_n" at 63.162.197.228 pasted "Overdue Notice Template" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/120 15:55 * chris_n notices fine printing is still busted... :-( 15:55 chris_n kf: 3.03.00.002 15:56 chris_n kf: I don't have my item due reminder notice setup with the new syntax yet 15:56 chris_n so that explains why one notice per item there 15:57 chris_n however, the overdue notice does appear to work with the exception of the fine amount 15:57 kf chris_n sorryn ow I am confused a little 15:58 kf what explains why one notice per item? 15:58 chris_n my template 15:59 chris_n I am referring to my template for "item due" notices 15:59 chris_n that one has not been modified to use the <item></item> tag yet' 15:59 kf ah 15:59 chris_n my template for "overdue" notices has 15:59 chris_n and works as expected 15:59 kf but the one you pasted does 15:59 chris_n except for the fine amounts 15:59 chris_n right 16:00 kf sorry, long day, let me read again what you wrote 16:00 kf ah 16:00 kf so I can use the syntax in item due too? 16:01 kf that's worth a try tomorrow! 16:01 chris_n so the template I posted a moment ago works fine for the <item></item> tags 16:01 kf ok 16:01 chris_n I think so 16:01 chris_n I will change my template and try it 16:01 kf I was breaking it up in more lines and I see I mixed a items.content in 16:01 kf although the fines looked good (for the one item printed) 16:07 kf I do my test again using your template as second notice 16:07 chris_n kf: I changed my "item due" notice to use <item></item> and will let you know what happens with it when it runs tonight 16:08 kf cool :) 16:08 kf chris_n: yes, your syntax works 16:08 kf now I have to find out what the problem with mine was 16:09 * chris_n does a naughty thing and tests the fix on his production box.... 16:09 chris_n s/fix/change/ 16:10 kf chris_n: that's my template 16:10 kf http://paste.koha-community.org/121 16:13 chris_n looks good; does the fine print correctly? 16:13 kf chris_n: not sure, perhaps it's really the linebreak. I removed the umlaut - but no change 16:14 kf the fine looks great 16:14 kf but it still does print only one item 16:15 chris_n the item tag does not appear to work for multiple items in the item due notice 16:16 chris_n can you try putting everything between the item tags on one line 16:17 kf yep 16:17 kf tried that right now 16:17 chris_n just to see if by chance the linebreaks are the problem? 16:17 kf it works 16:17 kf so it's the line breaks 16:17 chris_n which is a bug 16:17 kf would this be hard to fix? it would be quite nice to have a bit more formatting options 16:17 chris_n it should not be hard 16:17 kf ok, going to file a bug then 16:18 kf enough examples at hand now :) 16:18 chris_n if you want to assign it to me, I can work on it Friday or Monday 16:19 chris_n I need to find out why it does not work in the item due notices... which probably means it does not work in other notices either 16:20 kf can I file a second bug for: make fields from issues available? :) 16:20 kf thx chris_n - will assign to you 16:24 chris_n file the second too, I'll have a look while I in that neck of the woods 16:25 kf it's bug 5606 16:25 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5606 minor, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, items information in overdues should work with line breaks 16:25 kf thx 16:25 kf tried issues.date_due 16:25 kf but had no output 16:25 kf and the list does not offer the issues fields 16:30 kf hope the bug report is understandable 16:30 kf bug 5607 16:30 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5607 enhancement, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Make fields from issues table available in overdues 16:31 kf hm overdue notices... 16:31 kf ok, I really should quit and go home 16:31 kf chris_n: thx for helping me test! 16:33 kf chris_n++ 16:36 kf bye all! 16:44 owen wizzyrea around? 17:03 owen @later tell wizzyrea I did some work on an alternative fix to Bug 3659. Comments welcome 17:03 munin owen: The operation succeeded. 17:05 owen Comments welcomed from anyone else too :) 17:21 owen Is this edit correct? http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=System_Preferences&diff=prev&oldid=2905 17:21 owen I thought it was the RM who updated kohaversion.pl 17:24 paul_p owen, I think it's unclear (at least in my mind...) 17:30 cait hi #koha 17:31 paul_p hello cait ;-) 17:31 cait hi paul :) 17:31 cait still here? 17:31 paul_p leaving in a few mn 17:32 cait I see the renewal period part- that's a nice feature 17:32 cait how hard is it to add new parameters to those structure? 17:33 paul_p cait: I don't understand the question 17:33 cait we had someone ask about "days of loan period over until renewal is allowed" 17:33 cait add new circ parameters to smart rules :) 17:34 paul_p mmm... I would say less than 1 day to add to smart-rules, and something like 1 day to add the behaviour itself 17:34 paul_p so around 2 days 17:34 cait hm, for someone like you... like 10 for me or more hehe .) 17:35 cait but a project for a more quiet time :) 17:35 paul_p cait you're probably right for the 2 / 10 ;-) 17:35 paul_p ok, time to go back home. will be back soon 17:36 cait see you later 17:41 fredericd Does Koha send an email to the borrower when an item he has reserved is checked in? 17:41 fredericd hello! 17:42 fredericd For me, it was working and now it doesn't work anymore... 17:42 cait fredericd: yes it should 17:42 cait have you activated the hold notice for the borrower? 17:42 cait and does he have an email address? 17:42 fredericd where do you acticate hold notice for the borrower? 17:43 cait message preferences 17:43 cait you can set a standard in the borrower category for newly created users and change that in the borrower 17:43 cait and you need a notice with code HOLD 17:43 fredericd for the specific borrower? 17:43 cait yeah, it will take the standard settings from the borrower category when you create one 17:43 fredericd I have all that and it was working few days ago 17:43 cait but you can overwrite them in the borrower 17:44 cait not sure then 17:44 cait that's all I can think of from the admin site 17:44 cait it does not list the hold notice as pending in the notices tab of the borrower account? 17:45 cait hi brendan_l :) 17:45 fredericd I have a notice for the hold placed 17:45 fredericd but I haven't the other one for the hold filled... 17:46 fredericd I can't see where in the borrower category there is a setting for that 17:53 cait borrower category should show you the enhanced messaging options 17:53 cait the same box like in borrowers 17:58 fredericd cait: I have no enhanced messaging option in borrower catergory... 17:58 cait hm. 17:58 cait which version of koha are you using? 17:59 fredericd 3.2 17:59 cait there was a sys pref for 3.0 I think to activate it - but I thought it was the standard behaviour now that it's on 18:01 cait http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x4063#AEN4066 18:01 cait the hold filled in the screenshot is the notice send out when the item is waiting at the library 18:03 cait the borrower should have that checked too when you open the borrower account 18:20 * larsw waves 18:20 lac hey guys, i created a marc framework that does not have a 040 field in it at all, but when i go to add a marc record of the mentioned framework, not only does 040 show up, but it's c subfield 'Transcribing Agency' is required 18:40 chris Hi larsw 18:41 chris Hmm haven't run into that one before lac 18:41 larsw chris, very good morning to you, even if you're lazy and don't report bugs to me :) 18:42 chris How did you create the framework lac? From scratch or based on the default? 18:42 chris And what version of koha 18:42 chris larsw: hehe ill try harder :) 18:43 * owen wonders who chris is lazy compared to 18:44 lac chris: i just created it as a new framework 18:44 lac chris: 3.2 18:45 chris owen: in answer to the kohaversion question, yes id prefer ppl leave it for me and chris_n to set the number 18:45 owen That's what I thought chris, so I wondered about that wiki edit 18:45 chris lac: weird, is it just 040 or other fields too? 18:45 larsw owen, the _other_ user of my software (I do report bugs, lots of them ;) (and, no, I don't actually think he's lazy) 18:46 chris Compared to larsw most ppl are lazy :) 18:46 larsw oh no, you're not taking my laziness championship title away from me that easily... well, ok, you are, 'cause I can't be bothered to resist, but you shouldn't 18:47 chris And compared to owen mr 50 million patches we both are :) 18:47 cait owen++ 18:48 lac lac: well, there are blank fields for nearly every marc field even though i don't have those added to the framework 18:48 lac lac: but 040 is the only one of those that's required and has a subfield 18:49 chris owen: ahh setting it to xxx is good so that edit is ok 18:50 owen Okay chris thanks for the clarification 18:50 * owen did not do that 18:50 chris lac: and they definitely don't show when you are editing the framework? 18:51 chris You might want to go to bugs.koha-community.org and report a bug and attach some screenshots 18:51 lac chris: correct, but they may have been there when i first created the framework, i don't rememeber. is there some script i might need to run? 18:51 chris Shouldn't be 18:52 owen Hi nengard 18:52 chris Are you running memcached? 18:52 chris Hi west coast nengard 18:53 chris lac: if you are running memcached, try restarting that 18:53 chris If not then I'm out of ideas so a bug report would be good 18:54 nengard hi all 18:54 lac chris: no 18:54 lac chris: ok, thanks for the help, i've got to go now but i'll file one later 18:54 chris Thank you 19:00 owen Anyone else finding "git fetch" times out? 19:01 chris Ill tell you in 15 mins 19:02 chris When I'm off the bus :) 19:04 owen Just a hiccup I guess 19:08 owen Weird, I'm still getting caught in an updatedatabase loop upgrading from Koha 3.03.00.054 to 3.03.00.055 19:09 owen ...when trying to test bug_5575 19:09 chris Hmm and there is a 55 in updatedatabase? 19:10 chris I could have missed one 19:10 owen No, I've edited updatedatabase.pl myself for testing 19:10 chris Right 19:10 chris Hmmm 19:11 owen The error: 19:11 owen [Tue Jan 11 14:10:58 2011] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha`.<result 2 when explaining filename '#sql-349_f70'>, CONSTRAINT `auth_subfield_structure_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`authtypecode`, `tagfield`) REFERENCES `auth_tag_structure` (`authtypecode`,) at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl l 19:11 owen ine 4447. 19:11 chris My stop bbiab 19:18 chris back 19:23 chris im just about to push 2 patches for 5575 owen 19:23 chris from paul 19:34 chris wb nengard 19:34 nengard flaky wifi 19:34 nengard am tethered now 19:35 chris or not 19:35 chris :) 19:38 CIA-1 Koha: 03paul.poulain 07new/awaiting_qa/enh/bug_5575 * rv3.02.00-539-ga742eef 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): follow-up : make partial payement of fine work 19:38 CIA-1 Koha: 03paul.poulain 07new/awaiting_qa/enh/bug_5575 * rv3.02.00-538-g97a7527 10/installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql: followup= adding missing SQL column 19:38 owen Colorful. 19:38 chris http://cia.vc/stats/project/Koha 19:38 chris the difference with this one, is it tracks all the branches, (not just master and 3.2.x) 19:39 chris so when i push things into awaiting_qa ones etc, they show up 19:39 chris figured it might be useful, if its annoying ill turn it back off 19:39 chris http://cia.vc/stats/project/Koha/.message/3cb1 i quite like this too 19:40 * owen wonders what people think when they see a member of #koha named "CIA-1" 19:40 chris heh 19:41 Not_FBI Carry on everyone, nothing to see here 19:46 chris and wb again nengard :) 19:46 nengard didn't know i went away that time 19:47 chris back on wifi again it looks like 19:48 larsw nengard, irc is annoying when it does that :( (don't worry, you didn't miss anything big, just the CIA and the FBI) 19:48 nengard :) 19:49 owen chris: I think I figured out my updatedatabase loop problem 19:50 chris oh yeah? 19:50 owen The last revision in updatedatabase.pl omits "SetVersion($DBversion);" 19:50 chris ahhh that would definitely do it 19:50 owen in origin/new/awaiting_qa/enh/bug_5575 19:50 * chris will fix 19:50 chris and push, thanks for that 19:51 owen persistence++ # at the expense of some hair torn out 19:52 chris pushed 19:55 slef nengard: did you know... Flake is a chocolate bar in the UK, now owned by Kraft. 19:55 chris cadbury in nz 19:55 nengard i did not know that 19:55 chris which probably is owned by kraft too 19:55 nengard slef you'll have to send me some of that :) hehe 19:56 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_2142 * rv3.02.00-509-gaa4c36d 10/ (installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl kohaversion.pl): Bug 2142 : Bumping database version 19:56 CIA-1 Koha: 03ian.walls 07new/bug_2142 * rv3.02.00-508-g58d7321 10/ (9 files in 9 dirs): Bug 2142: reinstate maxItemInSearchResults systempreference 19:56 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/awaiting_qa/enh/bug_5575 * rv3.02.00-540-g2db7886 10/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl: Bug 5575: Missing Setversion in updatedatabase causing loop, thanks Owen for spotting it 19:56 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2142 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW, maxItemsInSearchResults No longer used 19:56 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements 19:56 nengard what is CIA? 19:56 chris http://cia.vc/stats/project/Koha <-- that 19:57 chris 8:38 <@chris> the difference with this one, is it tracks all the branches, (not just master and 3.2.x) 19:57 chris 08:39 <@chris> so when i push things into awaiting_qa ones etc, they show up 19:57 nengard is this diff from hudson 19:57 chris 08:39 <@chris> figured it might be useful, if its annoying ill turn it back off 19:57 chris very different 19:57 nengard oh cool 19:57 nengard k 19:57 chris hudson runs integration tests 19:57 larsw soon-to-be-renamed-hudson 19:58 chris or jenkins as its going to be known 19:58 chris snap :) 19:58 slef chris: yes, cadbury in UK too, which is Kraft 19:58 larsw "Oracle: making friends on the Internet since 2010" 19:59 owen Or until 2010? 19:59 nengard heh 20:01 hudsonbot Starting build 279 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:03 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5603: advance_notice.pl uninitialized element in hash <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8185db47878630399eedc8ca227ab0e111a3acad> / Bug 2142 : Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa4c36d328c47f0e12200c094115392b838395dd> / Bug 2142: reinstate maxItemInSearchResults systempreference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=comm 20:04 schuster mysql help needed - I have a gazillion reports because we have 68 schools and many of them have a date in them that is uniform. I've been "editing" many of them today and thought to myself there MUST be an easier way. 20:05 chris not sure im following what you are wanting to do, what are you editing? 20:05 schuster The date is 2009/07/01 - is there a way to say any report with this in the sql change it to 2010/07/01 20:05 schuster Manually imput SQL statements 20:06 chris ah 20:06 chris no 20:06 briceSanc Hello ! 20:06 schuster input that is... 20:06 schuster Oh drat... 20:06 chris not easily anyway, the sql for reports is stored as a text blob 20:06 chris lemme go see if mysql has any fancy things for dealing with it, but standard sql doenst 20:06 schuster ooy and gooy... Ok back to editing! 20:07 chris omg 20:07 chris http://mysql.com/ 20:07 briceSanc I have problems with mod_perl and C4::Scrubber Someone can help me? 20:07 chris oracle are insane 20:07 chris whole does splash pages .. hello 1999 wants its dumb idea back 20:07 chris s/whole/who 20:07 nengard lunch - ttyl 20:08 chris schuster: i may have found something 20:09 schuster listening. 20:09 chris http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/string-functions.html#function_replace 20:09 schuster off to play with my test system... Thanks chris! 20:10 CIA-1 Koha: 03ian.walls 07new/bug_5603 * rv3.02.00-510-g2b1e693 10/C4/Members/Messaging.pm: Bug 5603: advance_notice.pl uninitialized element in hash 20:10 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5603 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW, advance_notices.pl generating "uninitialized value in hash element" 20:12 owen Judging from what I see in bug_5575 I can throw away the work I did on Bug 3475 too. 20:12 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3475 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Add copy patron function 20:13 chris its working pretty well in 5575 ? 20:13 owen I'm just noticing that it's there, I haven't tested it 20:23 schuster well it was worth a try! good thing I did it on the test server! It replaced the whole sql string with 2010/07/01... not just that part of the blob. 20:24 schuster back to my mind numbing work! 20:24 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #279: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/279/ 20:24 hudsonbot * Ian Walls: Bug 2142: reinstate maxItemInSearchResults systempreference 20:24 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 2142 : Bumping database version 20:24 hudsonbot * Ian Walls: Bug 5603: advance_notice.pl uninitialized element in hash 20:48 atz briceSanc, what's the trouble w/ Scrubber? 20:53 atz looks like C4::Context is unnecessary, and it could help to have a use vars qw/$debug/; 20:53 atz but i don't see anything bizarre there 20:54 briceSanc we are using mod_perl 20:54 briceSanc and when we use mod_perl we cannot add tags or comments 20:55 briceSanc if we comment INIT in Scrubber.pm, the function works 20:56 briceSanc why do we use INIT { } in Scrubber.pm ? 20:56 briceSanc of course we need to add "my" before "%scrubbertypes" 20:56 atz no you don't 20:57 chris nope that are in use vars 20:57 chris that=they 20:57 chris that module does need a copyright statement though 20:57 atz the INIT initialize the data the module uses. Normal reason. 20:57 atz but it probably isnt' strictly necessary 20:58 atz chris: has there been anybody on point for mod_perl testing? 20:58 briceSanc we comment INIT { } but we still use %scrubbertypes = ( ....); 20:59 chris nope, no one has been working on at that afaik 20:59 atz yeah, i'd expected there would be a lot more problems than just tagging 20:59 chris ive been looking into plack/starman 20:59 atz interesting 20:59 chris hdl has been too, we did some work on it at the dev conference 20:59 chris very promising 20:59 briceSanc we only use mod_perl for the OPAC 21:00 chris but there are circular dependencies, that we need to fix or we get memory leaks 21:00 atz yeah, that is a tough problem for koha 21:00 hdl briceSanc: Any success ? 21:00 chris same will be true for mod_perl .. plus in places we do in code caching .. that now becomes persistent 21:00 chris we fixed a few of those 21:00 briceSanc chris, yes but in works well with the OPAC only 21:00 chris it leaks 21:01 chris but it works 21:01 chris atz: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/wip_plack 21:02 briceSanc so, could we fix the tag problem with deleting INIT ? 21:03 atz briceSanc, possibly, yes. 21:04 chris atz: http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2010-May/033985.html 21:04 atz but i'm not sure what exactly the timing constraints are for mod_perl 21:04 chris 1100 hits on the opac in 55 seconds 21:05 chris i blew up apache trying to do more than 50 concurrent 21:05 atz v. nice 21:05 chris http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2010/08/22/playing-with-plackup/ 21:06 chris i think hdl was going to organise a meeting to work/talk about it more eh hdl? 21:07 hdl I was going Should send a message for the last week of january 21:07 chris yeah that would be good 21:07 briceSanc atz, i will try with no INIT 21:07 briceSanc bye all, see you tomorrow 21:09 hdl But well nginx is more apt at answering concurrent requests than apache for what it is worth 21:09 * owen says goodbye too 21:09 chris hdl: yep, a lot more apt :) plus a much much lower memory footprint 21:10 chris but even apache mod_proxy to starman performs a lot better 21:10 paul_p hello & sorry to be a little bit late 21:14 paul_p is there anyone here wanting to QA a little bit the circ-mem BibLibre branch ? 21:15 chris hi paul_p 21:15 chris not sure there are many people around 21:15 paul_p 'morning chris 21:15 paul_p yep, it seems ... 21:15 chris bywater folks are all in california having meetings and such, and nekls is under snow 21:16 paul_p and aussies under water :( 21:16 chris yeah 21:22 paul_p chris, so, does it mean I can go to bed now because no QA tester candidate ? 21:22 paul_p hi nengard ! 21:22 chris heres nengard :) 21:23 nengard hi 21:23 nengard was i being talked about? 21:23 CIA-1 Koha: 03nengard 07new/bug_5486 * rv3.02.00-511-g50694f3 10/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/circulation.pref: bug 5486 remove note about HomeOrHoldingBranch being removed soon 21:23 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5486 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, HomeOrHoldingBranch description inaccurate 21:24 chris paul_p was wondering if anyone was going to show to help test the circ_memb work :) 21:24 nengard not this week 21:24 nengard busy with staff meetings this week 21:24 paul_p nengard: you're in the middle of a QA session without anyone to QA :\ 21:25 chris paul_p: the good news owen was doing some good work on 5575 this morning, including spotting a problem which we patched and pushed 21:25 paul_p nengard, yep, that's what chris was saying. Plus nekls under snow, aussies under water, europe under bed... 21:25 paul_p chris, yep, i've seen 21:25 chris http://cia.vc/stats/project/Koha/.message/4dba 21:25 chris cool 21:26 paul_p chris, does updatedatabase work with all thoses $DBversion="3.03.00.XXX" ? 21:26 chris owen changed them for his testing 21:26 nengard i do think sekjal did some testing of the circ branch ... 21:26 nengard or i thought he had 21:26 nengard i could be wrong 21:27 chris paul_p: i did change a whole lot of them in another branch, but not that one 21:27 paul_p ok, thx. And I think we will have to change how the dbversion is managed, because with branches & branches, that will be hard to follow... 21:28 chris (the other branch had 3.02 numbers so i changed them) i was going to leave this one xxx until i merge it 21:28 chris i want us to log what changes have been applied 21:28 chris not just a version number 21:28 chris so that we can check, and see what ones need to be applied 21:29 chris also we can then use that log to show on the about page 21:29 chris but ideally 21:30 chris i want to use DBIx::Class::Schema 21:30 chris and the versioning tools of that 21:30 chris and get rid of updatedatabase.pl completely 21:30 chris you can use the schema independently of using DBIx::Class anywhere else 21:31 paul_p right. did you started to work on the dbix::class::schema ? 21:31 chris yep 21:31 chris http://search.cpan.org/~arcanez/DBIx-Class-0.08126/lib/DBIx/Class/Schema/Versioned.pm 21:31 chris but i need to revisit 21:31 chris since then, i have now seen 21:32 chris http://search.cpan.org/~frew/DBIx-Class-DeploymentHandler-0.001004/lib/DBIx/Class/DeploymentHandler.pm 21:32 chris which might be even nicer 21:33 paul_p another question about the timing: what is the exact expected date for 3.4 ? 21:33 chris 22 april 21:33 chris but i think that deploymenthandler is too heavy, and that versioned might be all we need 21:34 paul_p i'd like to organize something like a "european debugging session" at BibLibre offices. early april could be a good week for this then. 21:34 chris code freeze will be end of march 21:34 chris string freeze on probably the 10th of april 21:34 paul_p Hoping cait, magnus, slef, maybe spanish & italian ppl, would come 21:34 chris that is a very good idea 21:34 paul_p (&ptfs-europe of course) 21:35 paul_p "code freeze" you mean "feature freeze" ? 21:35 chris yeah thats what i mean 21:35 chris t 21:36 chris so early april will be perfect 21:36 paul_p ok, will speak of this with my associates (hdl & philippe) 21:36 chris fix a bunch of bugs, and give the translators time to get the translations up to date 21:37 chris we should also put 3.6 Roles on the agenda for the next meeting, we will want to collect names for that, and 3.4 maintainer etc 21:37 chris if people want me to stay on for 3.6 im willing to, if others want to do that, im willing to move to 3.4 maintainer instead 21:38 chris (taking your idea that 6 months is too short:)) 21:38 hdl good night 21:38 chris night hdl 21:38 chris i think look at 5575, with a bit more testing that can be merged 21:39 chris i count 4 features left to test 21:40 paul_p 4 features left to test ? 21:40 chris but maybe in 5575 21:40 paul_p (++ for speaking of 3.6 roles) 21:40 paul_p yes, but where do you count 4 features left to test ? 21:41 chris ahh missed 2, 6 21:41 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/BibLibre_patches_to_be_integrated_for_3.4#catalogue-circulation-members_.28.235575_awaiting_qa.29 21:41 chris i missed the rfid and offline circ ones 21:42 chris we need owen to update that section too, with his results 21:43 paul_p ah, ok 21:44 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5486 remove note about HomeOrHoldingBranch being removed soon <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=50694f39594f1f4fcfd0efe28a1f47ab6c23bfd7> 21:46 paul_p shouldn't we revert the removal of note being removed by the reverting of the removal of the ... :D 21:46 hudsonbot Starting build 280 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:47 chris :) 22:03 paul_p ok, it's time to go to bed for european ppl ! 11PM 22:03 paul_p have a good day chris & nengard & anyone else around 22:03 chris sleep well 22:04 nengard good night paul_p 22:08 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #280: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/280/ 22:08 hudsonbot Nicole Engard: bug 5486 remove note about HomeOrHoldingBranch being removed soon 22:59 eternalsw I'd like to add a cutter number to both the add item form and the spine label. Our library is using Cutter's Two-Figure table along with the first letter of the title, and it is too expensive for us to respine all the books to some other system. I'd also like the cutter number visible in search results. I've created a php script that will generate a single line of output containing the cutter number when provided with author first na 22:59 eternalsw author last name, and title, so can call this from perl using curl or some other equivalent. Not sure where to start in the koha code. I'm leaving for the day, and will be coming back here tomorrow. Just wanted to give people time to think. 23:13 CIA-1 Koha: 03nengard 07new/bug_4131 * rv3.02.00-512-gb7fdfc1 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): bug 4131 have subscription so edit routing if one exists 23:13 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4131 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, link on subscripton page says 'create routing' even when one exists 23:15 chris eternalsw: you should file an rfc 23:16 chris @later tell eternalsw http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:RFCs 23:16 munin chris: The operation succeeded. 23:29 chris ahh cool 23:31 hudsonbot Starting build 281 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:34 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 4131 have subscription so edit routing if one exists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b7fdfc1384a749471f2c9a00b910b063778085e2> 23:34 CIA-1 Koha: 03magnus 07new/bug_5055 * rv3.02.00-513-gaf60ade 10/misc/cronjobs/crontab.example: Bug 5055 Use standard file paths in crontab.example 23:35 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5055 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, NEW, crontab.example should use standard file paths 23:36 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: bug 5486 remove note about HomeOrHoldingBranch being removed soon <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e6fe96cc8871c7267b6af4e42dd3edae8753a39> / Bug 5603: advance_notice.pl uninitialized element in hash <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d2e0ded413b9f0af3d2ccd6951b00a2568f5954> 23:39 chris chris_n: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5055 hows that last note look? 23:39 munin 04Bug 5055: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, NEW, crontab.example should use standard file paths 23:40 * chris_n looks 23:40 * chris tries to set a good example 23:41 chris_n just be sure to add me to the cc list on the bug ;-) 23:41 chris ah good point 23:42 nengard gmcharlt around? 23:42 nengard I'm trying to upload an image to the wiki and I keep getting a strange error 23:42 nengard it was a png and then i did it as a jpg but it keeps saying 23:43 chris_n strange_errors-- 23:43 nengard "The file has no extension (like ".jpg")." 23:43 gmcharlt nengard: ok, I'll take a look at it - please email me the file 23:43 nengard gmcharlt heading your way now 23:43 nengard let me know what the file url ends up being 23:43 chris gmcharlt: are you still stranded in california? 23:44 gmcharlt chris: yep, through Thursday morning at least 23:44 chris wow! 23:44 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5055 Use standard file paths in crontab.example <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af60ade73b0ac5c15308994632b45f99b0b8ae1b> 23:44 chris how far away from the bywater hq are you i wonder? 23:44 chris theres a mess of bywaterians there at the mo 23:45 chris you could make them buy you dinner :-) 23:45 gmcharlt hee 23:46 gmcharlt I have no idea, actually 23:46 hudsonbot Starting build 79 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:46 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: bug 4131 have subscription so edit routing if one exists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e18b603aaf1a37661f0c17717dc4de98260f1a72> 23:47 chris ahhh further than i thought 23:48 chris 3 hours and 45 mins by car according to google 23:49 chris or 5 hours 30, in traffic .. and since it goes through LA .. theres about 0% chance there wont be traffic :-) 23:52 nengard gmcharlt we're in santa barbara area 23:53 gmcharlt bit of a hike then 23:57 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #281: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/281/ 23:57 hudsonbot Nicole Engard: bug 4131 have subscription so edit routing if one exists 23:58 hudsonbot Starting build 282 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)