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01:15 jcamins reed++ # I understood that message
04:38 Amit heya ll
05:14 cait good morning #koha
05:19 Amit heya cait
05:19 cait morning Amit :)
07:01 kf good morning #koha
07:08 francharb hello #koha
07:15 kf hi francharb
08:10 hdl hi all
08:22 kf morning hdl
08:27 Amit hi hdl
08:30 savitra Hi Henri..
08:31 hdl Hi savitra and Amit
08:31 hdl how are you ?
08:31 Amit Hi hdl
08:32 hdl here we are.
08:32 savitra good..happy new year to you..
08:32 savitra thanks for the translated docs..
08:34 hdl So sorry it hasnot been sent before the end of the year.
08:34 savitra that's ok..
08:34 savitra we studied the document this morning..
08:35 savitra there seems to be very less overlap
08:35 savitra which I guess is good..
08:35 savitra we can build the payment capture part like we have indicated in our mockups
08:36 hdl what you call payment could be the same as "invoice management" for us.
08:37 hdl That is : know which things have been received and which are paid.
08:37 savitra yes, ok I see that..
08:37 hdl But it might be a step after.
08:39 savitra so I think we can handle that part, taking ideas from your document such as the search by isbn, provider etc.
08:39 hdl How do you link the payment process with the reception of books in your view ?
08:39 savitra it is a two step process..first books are received along with the invoice..
08:40 savitra the library then raised a request to accounts to pay, once account makes the payment, library staff capture payment details like cheque no.
08:40 hdl (I thought that maybe the person who approve a payment could reject a book reception)
08:40 hdl ok then I think it is fine.
08:41 hdl would the payment process rely on a new table ? or on aqorders adding fields...
08:41 savitra no that does not happen..the payment is made by accounts, who only want to make sure all the items in the invoice are already received.
08:42 savitra the approval for the purchase is taken at the suggestion or ordering stage, payment requests are not usually rejected..
08:44 savitra aqorders should be fine I think..
08:45 savitra or maybe because we can have multiple order linked to a single payment..have the payments in another table and link to aqorders..
08:47 hdl like accounts table... But unfortunately, it is rather a "user" (patron) account table.
08:50 hdl savitra: we have done wome work on accountlines so as to manage partial payments and so on
08:51 hdl savitra: we have done wome work on accountlines so as to manage partial payments and the list of payment modes available.
08:52 hdl it is available on our master. (And is used for patron fines and manual credits.)
08:53 savitra I see, but you think we should use accountlines to manage acquisition related payments?
08:53 hdl those account lines could be the place to manage the balance... But doesnot look to be designed as such.
08:54 hdl savitra: I am quite reluctant to copy paste of code.... But I am also reluctant to using same table for multiple usage....
08:54 hdl savitra: problem is that basically, an account line is an account line.
08:55 hdl no matter whether you use it to pay your suppliers or to receive payments from your patron.
08:56 savitra hmm..it is an interesting idea..
08:56 hdl So in my opinion... could be good to use the same table. But might have to be discussed on koha-devel
08:57 savitra ok..I think thats fine..
08:57 hdl But you would have to think of a way to display the stuff so that librarians are not confused....
08:57 hdl Pay for a patron is not the same as PAY a supplier.
08:58 hdl using different page would allow different naming... But still, would need some reflections.
08:59 savitra yes..and people may have reports built on that table..so there could be upgrade issues..
09:01 hdl savitra: mmm might be... Or some filters to add to SQL filters.
09:01 hdl SQL reports i mean.
09:01 savitra yes..
09:02 hdl that is statustable NOT IN ("A","B","C"...)
09:02 savitra we will take a look at accountlines on your master..
09:02 savitra ok..
09:02 hdl Is Payment approval the only new features in acquisitions you are due to work on ?
09:04 savitra well..we are supposed to work on all the RFCs that we had posted..but the customer has not yet released the po..they are committed but are slow..
09:04 savitra so I would prefer not to do too much until we get a formal po..
09:04 savitra so at this time we will be prepared to work on just the payments part..
09:06 hdl But what if we are developping those specifications we sent you (which actually are implementing your RFCs), would that suit your needs... ?
09:08 savitra let me review our rfc list for a second..
09:11 savitra Henri..I don't see your specs covering too much of our rfc list..
09:11 savitra our related rfc are purchase approval process and linking serial subscriptions to budgets and orders in acquisitions..
09:13 savitra and there is stuff on postage, handing charges and discounts at an order level..
09:15 hdl let me rephrase to see if I understand : this would be managing shipping charges and discounts at order level ?
09:16 savitra yes..
09:17 hdl It is the supplier who applies a discount on shipping charges... Like Amazon nullifying it ?
09:18 hdl And librarians would like to manage that.
09:18 savitra no..the discount is offered by the supplier on the order price..not related to shipping..
09:19 hdl The discount is already taken into account as far as I know.
09:19 savitra yes but that is at the vendor level..here different discounts can be offered for different titles by the same vendor..
09:20 hdl it is part of our specifications... But maybe I had no time to translate that part.
09:21 hdl I will translate the whole stuff
09:22 savitra ok..that will be good..if your specs do cover much of our RFCs..I will push the customer for the PO, so we can contribute to the work early..
09:24 savitra do you specs cover integrating serial subscriptions to budgets/orders?
09:27 hdl savitra: yes...
09:27 hdl But we are not clear whether we will have time to work on it.
09:27 hdl But yes.
09:28 hdl Are you working on that at the moment ?
09:29 savitra no, but we need to take that up soon, as this has an impact on our ability to sell Koha as a solution here..
09:29 savitra this is part of the same customer's scope of work
09:30 hdl mmm we should have an other meeting about that.
09:31 hdl and since there is not much overlap for other acquisition stuff, then lets live on that.
09:33 hdl Have a nice week
09:33 savitra Henri: on the question of what each side does..
09:33 savitra I propose we do the payment capture part, plus a search feature to find the payment records..
10:13 kf hi chris_n :)
10:28 magnus you scared him ;-)
10:48 kf hi druthb :)
10:53 druthb hi, kf! :D
11:03 kf oh, hi magnus!
11:03 magnus hiya kf
11:03 kf and druthb too...
11:03 kf will you run away now too?
11:06 savitra heya kf
11:09 magnus me? nah...
11:12 kf hi savitra
11:12 kf magnus: so I am not that scary - good to know :)
11:12 magnus kf: i'm used to it... ;-)
11:13 kf hmpf!
11:27 kf wb hdl
11:28 laurenthd @later tell savitra Henri: on the question of what each side does.. I propose we do the payment capture part, plus a search feature to find the payment records.. Sorry I had a meeting and when I went on Wifi, irc connection would be blocked because too many connection from the same IP :( Just to say Ok for me
11:28 munin laurenthd: The operation succeeded.
11:28 laurenthd hi kf
11:35 hdl hi miguelxer
12:05 miguelxer hi
12:37 kf hi miguelxer
12:40 miguelxer hello
12:48 kf hi jwagner
12:48 kf and hi ivanc :)
12:49 ivanc hi kf :)
12:50 jwagner Guten tag kf
13:17 hdl hi america
13:18 jwagner hi France :-)
13:18 owen Hi everyone
13:18 hdl hi owen
13:20 owen can we please bump Adrea Lund from the koha lists? I don't want to see her out of the office autoreplies for the next month
13:44 atz i hate seeing auto-reply to list. especially mutliple-auto-reply to the same list.
13:45 kf hi owen and atz
13:45 atz greets kf
13:45 owen Normally I ignore them, but this one says "until Feb. 2"
13:46 owen Hi kf
14:22 hdl atz: owen action ? Should I remove this user from the submitters to the list ?
14:22 atz yeah, that seems reasonable
14:23 owen If you do, I would be happy to send an email explaining why
14:23 atz she's not blocked, she's just not allowed to send 80 away from office messages
14:26 hdl oops It is not a list on lists.koha-community.org. We should ask crhis
14:27 owen koha, koha-bugs and koha-devel ?
14:27 hdl koha
14:36 hdl i set her as ack... I hope that her mails will have to pass ack
14:39 owen jwagner: I would appreciate your comments regarding my question posed on bug 3478
14:39 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3478 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Display patron middle initials
14:42 jwagner Owen, it was a request from a site with a very real need. Their incoming (migrated) data had the middle initial in a separate field, which mapped into the Koha middle initial field. However, the search results (patron and checkout) didn't display it. So they might see four or five Smith, John entries without being able to distinguish Smith, John A from Smith John B
14:42 jwagner If Koha provides a middle initial field for use, then it should display, is the short answer I guess.
14:43 owen Bug Koha doesn't provide a middle initial field. It provides an "initials" field.
14:43 owen s/Bug/But
14:43 jwagner I thought that was for middle initial/name entries -- it's grouped with the name fields on the patron screen
14:43 owen That seems like a migration problem, not a Koha problem.
14:44 jwagner Then what is the intent of the Koha initials field?
14:45 jwagner If it's there for use, and sites are using it, then they should have the option to display that data in search results. The feature does have a syspref controlling it, so it's not forced on sites that might use that field for other purposes.
14:46 druthb airborne_internet++
14:47 kf hi druthb :)
14:47 kf you have internet on a plane?
14:48 druthb yep. is nice, for a five hour flight...
14:49 kf aw
14:49 kf I think I never had this option on my flights to nz
14:49 druthb This is my first flight with the option; I haven't flown in more than a year.
14:50 druthb huge_macha_laptop_on_a_plane--
14:52 owen I disagree with you jwagner, but I also don't know what the original intention of the initials field was
14:53 owen I still wonder what the functional difference is between having middle initial separate and having it part of the firstname
14:54 jwagner I don't know, but some systems do store it that way, and some sites do want it that way. If sites are using it, they should have the option to display it, I think.
14:56 atz actually, was initials ever used for extra terse display, attributing authorship for notes fields, or something like that
14:57 atz not a great design, imho
15:00 owen Interesting atz, you've actually come up with a good argument for bug 3478 :)
15:00 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3478 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Display patron middle initials
15:00 owen But now everyone already does it the *other* way :P
15:01 jwagner owen, which way do you mean by the other way? I've gotten lost, now...
15:02 owen jwagner: any library who has put the user's full initials in the "initials" field isn't going to want to switch to using it just to show the middle initial
15:02 jwagner And they don't have to -- just leave the syspref off.
15:03 jwagner But a lot of commercial ILS systems do split the names, and a lot of sites want to enter names that way, and they should have the option.
15:03 owen If if you want to use the initial field to actually *do* something, like the terse display atz points out, you have to choose
15:04 owen At least it would be more efficient to do so
15:09 owen good morning sekjal
15:09 sekjal morning, owen
15:21 kf hi sekjal
15:22 sekjal hi, kf!
15:27 owen http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/circulation/#15
15:28 owen That says you can run overdue_notices.pl with "-html"
15:28 owen But when I try that it says "Unknown option: html"
15:28 kf have you tried html with a patch?
15:28 kf s/patch/path
15:29 owen Yes
15:29 kf I think we tested this a while ago
15:29 kf but my coworker set the options, I only checked the output :(
15:30 owen I've tried testing with csv output also, and I get a file, although it has only headers
15:30 owen I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong
15:31 kf I found the mail with the html attachements my coworker sent me
15:31 kf it was in may
15:31 jwagner owen, the -html option came from our print notices feature, which BibLibre revised and expanded and got into 3.2
15:32 jwagner See Bug 3482 for ours; not sure if BibLibre did a bugzilla entry for their changes.
15:32 sekjal owen: the -html option has worked for me before
15:32 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3482 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Print overdue and hold notices for patrons without email addresses
15:33 kf owen: my last tests were in may 2010 - it worked at that time
15:33 kf I am working on fines and notices this week
15:33 kf configuring and testing for one of our libraries
15:33 kf I can try to test tomorrow
15:34 sekjal owen: does using double dash help at all?
15:35 jwagner Did you follow the -html switch with a directory patch for the output file?
15:35 jwagner s/patch/path/
15:36 kf hehe
15:36 kf sorry, made the same typo :)
15:36 jwagner Maybe our brains need patching :-)
15:37 * druthb submits cookies as a bugfix.
15:38 * sekjal mmmmmm, cookies
15:39 * jwagner asks druthb to attach cookies to Bug 5158
15:39 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5, ---, camins, ASSIGNED, Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors
15:41 owen Okay, sorry folks. It would help if I was testing on a current branch
15:41 * owen tries again for real
15:41 * kf shares some of her cookies with owen
15:41 druthb hmm....I'll update that bug, jwagner, when I get home and can find a suitable recipe.
15:42 owen Now I'm getting "print() on closed filehandle $html_fh at misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl line 355."
15:42 druthb Something with chocolate, certainly. Lots of nuts (in reference to the IRC, natch...)...yeah. like that.
15:43 jwagner owen, druthb may remember better than I do -- I _think_ the filehandle error has to do with an invalid path. The -html /path/to/dir switch requires a directory where you have write permissions
15:44 owen Except I don't get the same error if I replace "-html" with "-csv"
15:44 druthb I think that's right. I seem to recall also finding a close() someplace where one did not belong.
15:45 sekjal yes, that error does sound familiar...
15:47 jwagner You wouldn't get the error with the -csv switch -- that piece of code is where it's starting to write the html output file. If you don't have a valid path, it can't start writing the file and that's what it's complaining about, I think.
15:47 hdl @little_limits_on connection_number--
15:47 munin hdl: Error: "little_limits_on" is not a valid command.
15:49 sekjal alright, got to get ready to fly. hopefully I'll be back shortly!
15:50 druthb hee hee...I think sekjal is hoping he's got airborne interwebs, too. :)
15:53 magnus can anything be done about the limit on concurrent clients from one site? has anyone talked to katipo?
15:54 * druthb heads out. see y'all soon.
15:56 kf ok, time to go home - see you all later :)
15:56 magnus see ya kf
16:00 owen hdl: Do you know what Bug 5157 is about?
16:00 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5157 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED, borrowers top issuers filters problems
16:05 schuster wizzyrea around?
16:31 cait hi #koha
16:31 jwagner hi cait
16:31 magnus hiya cait, Nate & sekjal
16:31 sekjal hey, magnus
16:31 magnus not on the plane yet?
16:32 sekjal nope, waiting for my ride. they should be here in 45 min
16:33 magnus ah
16:36 cait :)
16:59 sekjal okay, time to go. cheers, all!
17:09 Nate Hiya Magnus
17:13 cait hi Nate
17:15 Nate Hi Cait!
17:17 magnus is there any point in running "make test" when i'm doing the 5th dev install on the same box, from the same unchanged codebase?
17:19 chris_n only if you need the exercise ;-)
17:20 magnus hehe, that's what i thought i could do without... ;-)
17:20 chris_n or if the grimlins are loose
17:20 magnus yeah, but i don't hink they are
17:21 magnus or think, even
17:25 cait murphy's law... if you don't run make test... the gremlins will come out
17:26 magnus oh noes, i already skipped it
17:26 cait chris_n: do you have a minute?
17:30 chris_n heya cait :)
17:30 cait heya :)
17:30 cait I wondered about bug 5379
17:30 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5379 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, import_borrowers.pl fails with db insert/update errors
17:31 cait the test results looked ok to me - I can sign-off on it. but I still thinkt he help page needs an update to tell people how to load patron attributes
17:31 chris_n I agree... I had started on fixing that before my schedule blew up badly end of last year
17:32 chris_n I may not be able to get back to it before a few weeks from now
17:32 * chris_n wonders if nengard might be able to cook up something
17:32 cait that would be cool
17:33 cait I fear everything I produce would need proof reading - and not sure I know all the facts
17:34 cait or I can try - but not before next wee
17:34 cait k
17:34 cait the other bug on my list is 4472
17:34 cait bug 4472
17:34 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4472 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW, img tags in xslt broken after automatic translation
17:34 cait have you seen my note on the bug?
17:36 cait chris pushed a patch for marc21
17:36 cait not sure it's attached to the bug - but if this patch was not pushed to 3.2 it would explain my problems with French/marc21 in stafff
17:40 cait chris_n: are you hiding?
17:40 cait magnus told me I am scary...
17:40 owen Scary?!
17:41 magnus did i say that?
17:43 cait you said I scared them all awaay
17:43 cait and that you are still here because you are used to it!
17:43 * cait remembers that very clearly! ;)
17:45 magnus ouch, silly me
17:45 magnus they're all easily scared, i think...
17:46 cait hmpf.
17:55 owen We must be doing something wrong if I can't figure out why I can't place a hold for a patron
17:56 cait what is the error message?
17:56 owen No copies are available to be placed on hold
17:56 cait hm
17:56 cait have you checked your loan matrix?
17:56 cait I think an empty value in max reserves can cause that
17:57 owen I have both a default rule for all patrons, all itemtypes and a rule for the item type in question
17:57 owen I just tried adding a maxreserves value to no avail
17:57 cait ok
17:58 cait I had this problem once because I didn't not it defaults ot to unlimited when left empty, but to not allowed
18:01 owen Found it -- I had AllowOnShelfHolds off for some reason
18:01 cait ah
18:02 jwagner Yep, that would do it....
18:03 owen Yet another holds error message bug...
18:03 cait like "those copies are all available - go to the shelf!"?
18:04 owen Or "You librarian says you can't do that. Why would they say that?"
18:05 owen "Your librarian says you said something about them that hurt them deeply and they won't let you place a hold until you apologize"
18:05 cait lol
18:06 * owen tries to remember what he was doing
18:07 druthb "You're really annoying, typing so hard on they keyboard like that. I'm not going to place a hold for you if you are that loud."
18:08 cait hehe
18:08 jwagner "No one lets ME do ANYTHING fun, so I'm not going to let you do anything either!!!"
18:08 jwagner I think there's a real future in developing alternative error messages!
18:08 magnus maybe we could have OPACMoodSarcastic as a syspref?
18:08 * jwagner LIKES that idea!!!
18:09 cait make it a toggle
18:09 druthb magnus++
18:09 cait sarcastic, ironic, rude... it can go with the mood of the librarian
18:09 magnus or just OPACMood as a dropdown with several choices
18:09 cait unnerved, unconcentrated...
18:09 magnus overly cheerful
18:09 cait "oh, I forgot what you want... have to do something else now."
18:10 magnus "wow, you actually managed to place a hold all by yourself, isn't that GREAT? give yourself a round of applause!"
18:10 jwagner "Don't interrupt me, I'm busy playing computer games"
18:11 cait .. I am busy devloping enough intelligence to take over the world?
18:14 * cait was thinking about pinky and brain
18:15 * cait should go to bed
18:16 druthb It's....19:15 where you are, cait?
18:16 cait yeah, not really late.
18:16 cait it's this accounting book...
18:33 * chris_n reads the buffer
18:37 chris_n cait: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=b326530722895a1fd7fa4e0a97e001930ac49083
18:37 chris_n is that it?
18:38 cait ah
18:38 cait erhap
18:38 cait perhaps
18:39 cait I tested on 2010-12-13
18:39 cait this patch was picked in november
18:39 cait so perhaps a differnet problem?
18:39 chris_n may be... I'm not strong on xslt foo :-(
18:40 chris_n and having spent the past few weeks coding in C hasn't helped that sort of thing much
18:40 cait C coding? why would you do that? ;)
18:41 cait the xslt foo looks the same for results and detail
18:41 chris_n exactly ;-)
18:41 cait and I noted that there is only a problem on the detail page
18:41 cait hm.
18:41 chris Morning
18:41 * chris_n hands chris coffee
18:42 chris Thanks
18:42 * cait hands chris a cookie
18:42 chris Heh
18:43 chris_n hmm... my 4 year old would like that first thing in the morning :)
18:43 cait chris: I noticed a database update problem when I updated my test installation earlier today - XXX version number. sent a patch :)
18:43 chris Ta
18:43 chris I thought I had caught that one, but must have missed it
18:44 chris Either that or forgot to push
18:44 chris I usually merge, then fix the version
18:44 cait I don't know, had to spend the rest of my day with fines and notices
18:44 cait it was my 5 minutes real fun today :)
18:45 chris Heh
18:46 chris Ah yes missing push, ill use ur patch tho anywya
18:47 chris Since you spent the time doing it, you should get credit
18:47 * chris will apply it when I get to work
18:47 cait you can push - what takes you less time
18:49 chris Its about the same
18:50 chris U sent to koha-patches eh?
18:51 cait yes
18:52 chris Cool
18:58 fcapo hello
18:59 fcapo I have a question : What is the use of the "Default" authority framework? If I try to create a new authority using this framework, I only get errors.
19:00 fcapo On demo instances of Koha, I saw this authority framework didn't exist. Is it safe to delete it?
19:10 chris fcapo: im not sure, you might be better off asking on the mailing list
19:12 cait fcapo: which version of koha have you installed?
19:13 chris cait: pushed it up
19:13 cait thx :)
19:15 hudsonbot Starting build 274 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:16 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database number to 011 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1658110bab3fe2a5e1723e0afe3360413e3d61dc> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5186' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=574f613a1dfadfcd7c025139e6a63b1b1a0f729c> / Bug 5186: Follow-up - Fixing wrong database number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8869ea0c24
19:24 fcapo Sorry for the wait, I'm using Koha version 3.02.02.001
19:27 cait marc21 or unimarc?
19:28 fcapo marc21
19:29 cait hm
19:29 cait I wonder about the default framework
19:29 cait I don't see this in the sql files
19:31 cait ah,now I found it
19:32 cait fcapo: I wondered because I remember biblibre did some work on a default auth framework for unimac
19:33 fcapo ok
19:33 cait fcapo: sorry, I tried creating an authority with my default framework and got an error too
19:34 cait but I don't know if it is safe to delete it
19:34 fcapo ok, so that's not only me
19:35 fcapo this bug report seem to be about that problem, but it go no answers : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2979
19:35 munin 04Bug 2979: normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/authorities/detail.pl line 332.
19:36 fcapo other than that, found nothing
19:38 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #274: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/274/
19:38 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 5186: Follow-up - Fixing wrong database number
19:38 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bumping database number to 011
19:40 cait fcapo: was thinking about that: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-bugs/2011-January/039301.html
19:41 fcapo ok, so it would be used for searches
19:41 cait chris: ah, I forgot kohaversion? strange, my database was updated to 011
19:41 cait have to check tomorrow
19:41 fcapo oh, yeah, I use default a lot when searching for authorities. So its useful for authority searches.
19:42 fcapo so deleting the defautl framework wouldn't be a good solution :/
19:42 cait perhaps
19:42 cait deleting would keep people from using it for cataloging
19:42 cait is this why you want to delete it?
19:42 fcapo yep
19:43 fcapo users use the default framework, then their work can't be saved = unhappy users
19:43 cait hm
19:43 cait you could try to kill it with jquery from the pulldown
19:44 cait so nobody can select it for cataloging
19:44 cait but in search it would still be an option
19:46 fcapo that would be an option, just wanted to know if there was another way before modifying production code for no reason :P
19:46 cait jquery would not mean modifying code
19:47 cait only adding a little bit of javascript code to a sys pref
19:47 cait of course it can break with an update - but will not cause any real problems
19:47 cait not sure how to do that for this yui button
19:47 cait owen would perhaps know
19:48 owen What page are we talking about?
19:48 cait authorities :)
19:48 chris anyone in france still awake?
19:48 cait front page, the pull down for frameworks
19:49 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5589: Remove duplicated Exports in Suggestions.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e31e7d780407521fd3b365870b6388349ba7ddbd> / Fix for Bug 4984, Invalid XHTML in staff client search results <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=77c9df5ce75d1e6e17b0ba87c068e887459ee118> / Additional fix for Bug 3550, Use GetRecordValue to get the subtitle <http://git.koha-commun
19:49 cait 20:49 here chris
19:49 chris http://news.techworld.com/operating-systems/7508/france-plans-open-source-centre-of-excellence/
19:50 cait fcapop: you can take a look at the examples here to see what can be done using jQuery: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library
19:51 fcapo ok, thanks for the help
19:51 cait perhaps owen can give you a code snippet for the authorities page
19:55 owen Unfortunately it's not a simple case because the menu is generated by YUI
19:56 owen I've tried a couple of things without any luck.
19:56 owen I think it's a genuine bug that "Default" appears in that list at all, but I could be mistaken
19:57 munin New commit(s) kohagit: (bug #3737) fix title search in order history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=15334926adf722083f03553eed575d056e907ad1>
19:58 * owen cheers druthb http://bywatersolutions.com/?p=893
19:58 owen bywater++
19:58 owen druthb++
19:58 chris druthb++
19:58 cait druthb++
19:58 cait bywater++
20:01 hudsonbot Starting build 275 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:01 hudsonbot Starting build 76 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: FIXED)
20:09 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: (bug #3737) fix title search in order history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=64831933b2e6af3ba37ea250ca17d0a15eecd884>
20:09 chris http://cia.vc/stats/project/Koha
20:10 chris got the repo reporting to here now too
20:21 cait good night all :)
20:31 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #275: UNSTABLE in 30 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/275/
20:31 hudsonbot Nahuel ANGELINETTI: (bug #3737) fix title search in order history
20:31 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #76: UNSTABLE in 30 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/76/
20:31 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5570 - item types not showing on other editions
20:31 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Follow up on fix for Bug 5570, item types not showing on other editions
20:31 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Additional fix for Bug 3550, Use GetRecordValue to get the subtitle
20:31 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4984, Invalid XHTML in staff client search results
20:31 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 5589: Remove duplicated Exports in Suggestions.pm
20:32 hudsonbot Starting build 77 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #75 2 days 1 hr ago)
20:41 chris !hudson build koha_master now
20:41 hudsonbot chris: job koha_master build scheduled now
20:41 hudsonbot Starting build 276 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #274 1 hr 26 min ago)
20:58 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed!
20:58 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #77: FIXED in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/77/
20:58 hudsonbot Nahuel ANGELINETTI: (bug #3737) fix title search in order history
21:04 owen Can Koha access cookies which have been set with javascript?
21:04 * chris_n perks up at the mention of cookies
21:06 * owen figures it out
21:06 owen If anyone has any good examples of this in the code please let me know, I'm just starting to learn how it works
21:07 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed!
21:07 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #276: FIXED in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/276/
21:10 robin chris_n is for cookie!
21:18 * owen must be having too much fun
21:18 * owen sees it's past quitting time.
21:18 * owen quits
21:49 schuster @later tell owen - David Schuster is playing with this for Kids Catalog feature.
21:49 munin schuster: The operation succeeded.
21:49 chris using jquery cookie schuster?
21:50 schuster no full javascript.
21:50 chris ahhh, the hard way :)
21:51 schuster It's not in the code yet but...
21:51 chris if you have time, id recommend checking out the jquery cookie plugin
21:51 chris it takes all the headache out of supporting multiple browsers etc
21:51 chris out of it
21:51 chris its what we use on www.stuff.co.nz
21:52 schuster I need to read up on that and how to install it etc... Time... :)
21:53 schuster I always fear messing something up on the server so I need to play with another machine...
21:53 chris its a good fear to have
21:54 schuster I'm building the webpages independant of Koha and then the search basically is dynamically built and writes the cookie indicating your school location and the page you came from. Then in Koha(part I'm still working on) some JAVA to read the cookie and indicate return to kids
21:54 chris yeah, sounds cool
21:54 schuster It then reads the cookie to return you to the Kids interface from where you left it for the search.
21:54 chris id use that
21:55 chris for intranets etc
21:55 chris in corporate libraries too
21:55 schuster I suspect within the month I'll have a demo.
21:55 chris excellent
21:55 schuster nice chatting have a great evening!
21:55 chris cya later
23:05 Brooke helllllllo #koha
23:05 chris hiya Brooke
23:05 Brooke :)