Time  Nick        Message
23:30 cait        pianohack++
23:30 pianohack   'gnite, cait
23:30 pianohack   Off to wrangle some bugs
23:30 cait        getting late here - good night all :)
23:30 pianohack   cool
23:29 chris       i think thats a valid approach
23:29 pianohack   Lots of rel_3_2 bugs that seem to be from before the release
23:29 pianohack   On a koha-related topic, should I mark a rel_3_2 bug RESOLVED if its been fixed in HEAD for a while?
23:27 pianohack   Yes, then it is :)
23:27 pianohack   Age
23:27 pianohack   Oh
23:27 chris       and then its all 'its too darn cold' :)
23:27 pianohack   70 degF is perfect miami weather
23:27 chris       unless you are 70
23:27 pianohack   Not optimal
23:27 pianohack   Miami just varies from 60-100 degF, though
23:26 pianohack   Seaside towns are nice that way, not a crazy amount of variation
23:26 chris       hehe
23:26 pianohack   Heh, more than I can say of golden, CO
23:26 chris       so its just got a much lower variation
23:26 chris       altho we never get to 0 in winter (maybe with windchill we do)
23:25 pianohack   Imagine antarctica probably has something to do with that too
23:25 chris       but thats about as hot as it gets here
23:24 chris       yeah, we get up round 24-28 in january
23:24 pianohack   We actually have almost the same weather, but it's summer there :)
23:24 pianohack   cool
23:24 munin       pianohack: The current temperature in DV Floral Group, Miami, Florida is 20.2�C (6:27 PM EST on December 22, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).
23:24 chris       if you go up the coast a bit its not bad
23:24 pianohack   @wunder Miami, FL
23:23 cait        that is pretty cold...;)
23:23 chris       nothing between us and antartica, so the water never really warms up
23:23 munin       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.2�C (12:24 AM CET on December 23, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000.2 hPa (Rising).
23:23 cait        @wunder Konstanz
23:23 chris       its pretty cold in wellington
23:23 pianohack   How's the pacific this time of year? Atlantic was a bit chilly
23:23 pianohack   That actually is pretty nice
23:22 chris       pretty nice day today
23:22 munin       chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0�C (12:00 PM NZDT on December 23, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
23:22 chris       @wunder wellington nz
23:22 chris       yup
23:21 pianohack   Are you still in Wellington?
23:21 pianohack   Hehe
23:21 chris       much the same, beaches and broiling .. minus the cubans :)
23:19 pianohack   How's your christmas holiday looking?
23:19 pianohack   Enjoying the crazy cuban family
23:19 pianohack   Got nicely broiled
23:19 pianohack   Went to the beach today
23:19 pianohack   Yes, actually
23:19 chris       off topic, you still in miami?
23:18 chris       you'd have to hope so :)
23:18 pianohack   (I'm technically supposed to be doing bug wrangling, also)
23:18 pianohack   Some of those are also probably just old bugs that didn't get taken care of, no?
23:17 chris       172 at last count
23:17 chris       theres a ton of patches needing signoff if you ever get bored :)
23:17 chris       cool thanks
23:17 pianohack   I appreciate the QA process greatly, so I'm glad to do this :)
23:16 chris       but if its attached to a bug and in a status ill see it each day when i check
23:16 pianohack   Right
23:16 chris       until i find it again
23:16 chris       it could be months
23:16 chris       if its not attached to a bug, and i miss seeing it in the mail or whatever, or see it and think ill do that later
23:15 chris       yeah its just so patches dont get lost
23:15 pianohack   And I was going to ask, "why not just encourage people to write more descriptive commit messages?" but, well, nengard tried that at least twice with no effect
23:15 chris       so i can see, how many are waiting for qa, how many for me, (signed off) and how many for testers (pushed)
23:15 pianohack   That does make sense
23:14 chris       into the top link there
23:14 pianohack   Ah, okay, to keep the QA managers, RM, etc in touch
23:14 chris       that gets it into http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/
23:14 chris       we mark the bug patch-sent, needs signoff
23:14 chris       2, using hte statuses
23:13 chris       so that when someone looks at the commit in the future they can find more info about it
23:13 chris       having a bug number for 1
23:13 pianohack   (3.2.2 stats is cool :)
23:13 chris       with 128 changed lines :)
23:13 pianohack   So, if I may ask, what was the reasoning behind replacing "have an idea for something that might be useful, send in a patch" with "have an idea, report a bug, create a patch, send in the patch, attach the bug to bugzilla, wait for the patch to be pushed, mark your own idea as implemented the way you wanted it to be"?
23:12 chris       did you see you made it into the 3.2.2 stats?
23:12 chris       (thats the theory anywya :-))
23:12 chris       then the RM, will mark it closed upon release
23:11 chris       even if thats the same person who fixed it :)
23:11 pianohack   Okay
23:11 chris       usually the person who reported, marks it resolved
23:11 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5520 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, pianohacker, REOPENED, No .packages file for Ubuntu Maverick
23:11 pianohack   On bugs like bug 5520, where I had an idea, reported it as a bug, then developed the patch in about the same hour, am I the one that marks it fixed, or is jcamins?
23:10 pianohack   Cool
23:10 chris       im not sure he is, but he'll read back
23:09 pianohack   Hi guys. Could I ask a bug-reporting question (especially to jcamins if he's around)?
23:09 ibot        i guess pianohack is pianohacker
23:09 chris       heya pianohack
22:30 cait        yep
22:30 chris       when i merge it, ill deal with the conflicts (anything with kohaversion etc will pretty much always conflict)
22:29 chris       well if he tests that branch
22:29 chris       ah right
22:29 cait        I asked magnus to test and wanted to check patches still apply
22:29 cait        I forgot you had already pulled it - that's all
22:28 cait        people are too slow testing :)
22:28 cait        no, you are ok
22:28 cait        there were only small issues with kohaversion, updatedatabase and opac/opac-userupdate.pl
22:28 chris       im too speedy :)
22:28 chris       ah yeah
22:27 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5422 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Separate state field for patron's adresses
22:27 cait        bug 5422
22:27 chris       5422?
22:27 cait        chris: I rebased 5422 - now I see you have pulled the branch for qa
21:43 cait        fudge++
21:38 cait        ebegin: not sure, we don't use it at the moment
21:38 cait        wb chris
21:36 chris       back
21:28 ebegin      How are you using (or should be use) Materials specified (bound volume or other part) - 952$3 in an item?
21:07 cait        :)
21:05 druthb      :)
21:03 gmcharlt    hi cait, druthb
21:03 cait        hi gmcharlt
21:02 * druthb    waves to gmcharlt
20:58 owen        Time to leave on a high note!
20:53 gmcharlt    owen++
20:52 cait        :)
20:51 druthb      :D
20:50 owen        :P
20:50 druthb      :)
20:49 ibot        OK, druthb.
20:49 druthb      ibot:  owen is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, covered in awesome brilliance.
20:48 owen        ...an enigma...
20:48 druthb      :-O
20:48 ibot        bugger all, i dunno, druthb
20:48 druthb      ibot: owen?
20:47 cait        ah :)
20:47 ibot        mailing lists are found at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
20:47 cait        ibot: mailing lists?
20:47 ibot        mailing lists are found at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
20:47 owen        mailing lists?
20:47 cait        owen: you are not ibot :)
20:47 owen        http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
20:47 cait        mailinglists?
20:47 NCARLibra   how do i subscribe?
20:46 NCARLibra   I thought I was, but I must not be...haven't been getting any emails from that list.
20:43 owen        NCARLibra: Are you on the Koha mailing list? That would be a good place to ask next
20:42 owen        (that is to say, she's logged in to #koha)
20:42 NCARLibra   ah, i see
20:41 owen        Jane Wagner of PTFS
20:41 owen        I was hoping she would chime in. She's here.
20:41 NCARLibra   Jane...New Zealand? which library?
20:40 NCARLibra   How might I contact jwagner?
20:40 owen        I think jwagner has worked on that?
20:38 NCARLibra   Has anyone you know of been using link-resolvers (such as Exlibris' SFX) with Koha?
20:38 NCARLibra   I've got a question for ya...
20:37 NCARLibra   Michael here
20:37 NCARLibra   Hi Owen
20:37 owen        Hi NCARLibra
19:44 chris       Bbl
19:44 chris       Ok off to drs
19:29 cait        chris: :)
19:19 chris       Bsz-bw has a quite big role in 3.2.2
19:18 chris       cait: did you see the stats, something to show your bosses
19:17 chris       help_demanders--
19:17 cait        morning chris :)
19:17 chris       Morning
18:20 cait        hi jwagner and druthb
18:20 druthb      o/   <--to cait
18:19 jwagner     Hi cait
18:19 cait        hi #koha
17:25 kf          bye all! :)
17:14 tcohen      i hope some1 corrects it :-D
17:14 tcohen      i've recently written on the wiki a procedure for installing multiple koha instances
17:13 tcohen      gmcharlt: ok, done
17:10 gmcharlt    tcohen: indeed; open an enhancement bug
17:09 tcohen      it could be helpful for many
17:09 tcohen      I didn't find in the wiki a section for "maintenance tasks"
17:09 tcohen      gmcharlt: exactly, thanks!
17:08 gmcharlt    that may not be a problem for you, of course
17:08 gmcharlt    tcohen: yes. it also stores batches of import records, so if you have batches that you want to revert in the future, clearing the table would make that impossible
17:03 tcohen      i meant import_records, too sensitive touchpad
17:02 tcohen      hi, the importa table stores z3950 retreived records, is it safe to clean it up?
16:59 owen        A few knocks seems to have helped.
16:43 * owen      looks around for a wall to bang his head against
16:21 gmcharlt    I checked, looks like those are the only two
16:20 owen        I was initially confused about how you were passing attrcode to ypattrodue-attr-search-authvalue.pl, but now I get it
16:20 owen        I don't know of any other instances
16:20 owen        I've already got the patron search autocomplete working
16:19 gmcharlt    are you going to be doing this for all autocompletes?
16:19 gmcharlt    cool
16:19 owen        I'm in the process of updating the autocomplete to use jQueryUI
16:19 gmcharlt    owen: indeed.  so what's up with overdue.pl?
16:18 owen        gmcharlt: You need your own origin story and your own version of kryptonite
16:17 * gmcharlt  makes note to avoid packages containing kryptonite ;-P
16:16 gmcharlt    good morning
15:52 kf          no mailing list mails today?
15:52 druthb      bingo!  (since I didn't use xor.)
15:52 owen        An alien superhero of course. Just like Superman.
15:51 * druthb    wonders if owen thinks that gmcharlt is a superhero, or an alien.  ;-)
15:50 * owen      pictures gmcharlt's super hearing picking up his plea from a faraway planet. He flies across the galaxy to answer the call, only to find the crisis averted.
15:49 * owen      figures it out
15:24 owen        gmcharlt around?
15:12 kf          ah :)
15:05 owen        An autocomplete pulls the possible values for those attributes
15:05 owen        If you have defined custom patron attributes, you can filter on those attributes in circ/overdue.pl
15:04 kf          overdue.pl autocomplete?
15:03 * owen      attempts to tackle gmcharlt's overdue.pl autocomplete on patron attributes
14:53 * druthb    hands owen a strong cup of tea.
14:52 * owen      must have nodded off there for a moment
14:48 * owen      wishes he was as awake now as he was at 3AM
14:47 druthb      o/
14:46 * thd       sleeps
14:46 Oak         \o
14:19 druthb      :P
14:19 kf          and druthb the anonymous someone ;)
14:19 magnus      kf: np
14:19 kf          jcamins, magnus: thx for your input :)
14:18 * Brooke    rolls her eyes.
14:18 druthb      Brooke++ # Brooke giggling is a wonderful sight!
13:59 * Brooke    giggles.
13:59 * francharb highfives Brooke
13:59 francharb   ;)
13:59 francharb   actually, we do use "highfive" in french but it souds like i 5
13:58 * Brooke    highfives francharb
13:58 francharb   obviously
13:58 Brooke      francharb, is "highfive" in your vocabulary yet?
13:57 Brooke      :)
13:57 francharb   ;)
13:57 francharb   0/ Brooke
13:56 jcamins     kf: that's what I do.
13:54 magnus      kf: hm, that was a bit too advanced for me at the moment... :-)
13:53 Brooke      :)
13:53 magnus      kia ora Brooke!
13:53 kf          hi Brooke
13:53 Brooke      kia ora
13:52 kf          so you change the files in the git controlled folder, commit them and can merge when you update
13:52 kf          someone suggested having symlinks from koha-dev
13:50 magnus      yeah, better be careful about those customizations...
13:50 magnus      i guess you'd have to check what files have been changed...
13:50 kf          because we have some customizations in there
13:49 magnus      good question
13:49 kf          right
13:49 magnus      kf: do you mean find out if you need to run makefile + make, because files that affect koha-dev were changed?
13:49 * jcamins   is just about to make breakfast, actually.
13:49 * jcamins   hasn't had any caffeine yet today
13:48 jcamins     Sorry.
13:48 jcamins     magnus_a: yes.
13:48 jcamins     Hm.
13:48 magnus_a    isn't it "make upgrade"?
13:48 kf          I wonder if there is a way to find out easily if running makefile makes sense
13:48 jcamins     Then make, make install
13:47 jcamins     Right.
13:47 kf          so you do a git pull and run the makefile?
13:47 jcamins     (or whatever that argument is)
13:47 jcamins     Generally I don't, but you can use Makefile.PL --prev-install=/path/to/install/log
13:46 kf          I wonder about the files in koha-dev
13:46 kf          how do you update?
13:46 kf          ah, perhaps strange question
13:44 * jcamins   has one, why?
13:41 kf          someone with a dev install around?
13:41 kf          owen++
13:36 thd         hooray owen
13:35 owen        Got patron search autocomplete working with jQueryUI: http://screencast.com/t/LsxNxqZCbuN
13:12 jcamins     chris_n++
13:06 tcohen      ++chris_n++
12:51 kf          yep, chris_n++
12:50 owen        chris_n++
12:50 owen        Congratulations to chris_n on the release of 3.2.2!
12:48 kf          hi druthb :)
12:48 druthb      hi, kf! :)
12:48 kf          hi #koha
12:13 hdl         ccl is not normalized. And would be quite messy to setup.
12:13 thd         hdl: Pazpar2 uses CCL as the base query language which is a big limitation in itself.
12:12 thd         hdl: That disadvantage also would make metasearching with Pazpar2 weak.
12:11 thd         hdl: Yes I report that as a deficiency or disadvantage.
12:10 hdl         rpn2solr (published by Indexdata)
12:10 hdl         I have read rpn2solr.c and it looks supporting only basic RPN queries.
12:09 hdl         So if icu4j is used... Then libicu is too ;)
12:09 thd         hdl: I misunstood greatly that part.
12:09 thd         hdl: :)
12:08 hdl         icu4j is afaik a wrapper for java of libicu.
12:08 hdl         No I would not claim that.
12:08 hdl         thd: if you understood that... Then it is a big misunderstanding.
12:08 thd         hdl: Yes I tested position and completeness and reported the error messages returned.
12:07 hdl         But it is the fact.
12:07 thd         hdl: Are you not also stating that icu4j is more widely used and tested than libicu in the world in general?
12:07 hdl         I can't remember if I said that position and completeness would not be supported with icu enabled...
12:06 hdl         but its support in yaz is limited to frequent things.
12:06 hdl         libicu itself is widely used.
12:06 hdl         thd: it is applied to zebra usage of libicu.
12:05 thd         hdl: If you have a moment, I would appreciate knowing what "homemade" is applied to Zebra usage of libicu or libicu itself.
12:04 hdl         thanks
12:04 hdl         hi thd.
12:04 thd         hdl: I have added your excellent improvement to the Solr RFC ICU qualification about Zebra to the Zebra disadvantages.  Now it is under both the advantages as a qualification and disadvantages as a disadvantage.
11:15 druthb      :)  Hi, magnus!
11:15 * magnus    waves at druthb
11:05 * Oak       likes Liferea http://liferea.sourceforge.net/
08:18 davi        hi magnus
08:16 magnus      hiya davi
08:11 magnus      and hi hdl ;-)
08:11 magnus      chris_n++
08:10 magnus      yeah!
08:07 hdl         congrats chris_n
08:03 magnus      ;-)
08:03 cait        :)
08:02 magnus      guten morgen cait!
08:02 cait        hi magnus
07:59 magnus      hi francharb
07:53 francharb   hello #koha
07:41 magnus      3.2.2 - woohoo!
07:36 magnus      kia ora, #koha!
07:23 prawesh     also, how can i count total number of records??
07:23 prawesh     full description would be very nice
07:22 prawesh     can anyone help me in importing from winisis ...
07:22 prawesh     hi
06:33 Amit        heya cait
06:32 cait        hi Amit
06:17 cait        chris_n++
06:14 cait        chris_n: around?
06:05 cait        good morning #koha
04:02 chris       thanks for the report
04:02 bigbrovar   chris: seems to be ok now thanks
04:00 bigbrovar   let me check again
04:00 chris       hows that now?
03:59 chris       yeah
03:59 Oak         \o
03:58 bigbrovar   probably a typo in the naming or link
03:58 chris       will fix that
03:58 bigbrovar   chris: when I tried downloaded it offered to relace the previous 3.2.1 file I downloaded the last time so when I checked the source of the link I found it liked to 3.2.1
03:58 chris       ah, i see
03:57 bigbrovar   I meant the link to the latest release of koha the one here http://koha-community.org/koha-3-2-2/ seems to point to the previous stable release 3.2.1
03:56 chris       hi bigbrovar what links are you talking about?
03:07 * druthb    is off to bed.  g'night!
03:04 druthb      neat stuff, chris!
02:58 chris       http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2010/12/22/koha-3-2-2-statistics/
02:34 chris       and now my brain is fried, so time to run some useless statistics on 3.2.2
02:34 chris       took a while but now hudson will whine at me less
02:33 druthb      :)
02:33 chris       yay!!!
02:33 hudsonbot   * Chris Cormack: Bug 5531: adding some missing sysprefs
02:33 hudsonbot   * Chris Cormack: Bug 5531: Updated Polish, Ukranian and Russian syspref files
02:33 hudsonbot   * Chris Cormack: Bug 5531: further fix for fr-FR files
02:33 hudsonbot   * Henri-Damien LAURENT: Based on Chris Nighswonger french unimarc_standard_sysprefs.sql
02:33 pianohack   Hey druthb
02:33 hudsonbot   Project Koha_Master build #244: FIXED in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/244/
02:33 hudsonbot   Yippie, build fixed!
02:28 * druthb    waves to the pianohacker
02:25 druthb      thanks, chris.  :)
02:25 chris       wb druthb
02:17 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5531: adding some missing sysprefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2124887428afc6c9198404241a1afd93c456dc8f> / Bug 5531: Updated Polish, Ukranian and Russian syspref files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0482e534519dafb2ff37177f117534d77bc4cbeb> / Bug 5531: further fix for fr-FR files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9db18b
02:09 hudsonbot   Starting build 244 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 15 days ago)
02:09 hudsonbot   chris: job koha_master build scheduled now
02:09 chris       !hudson build koha_master now
02:09 chris       http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
02:08 chris       koha-devel is probably the best list
02:08 eter        ok
02:08 chris       no
02:08 eter        hey chris i would like some ldap specific answers i was advised to send to the mailing list for joe but i'm not sure which mailing list, i assume there exist list for different applications
02:05 chris       http://www.hindu.com/2010/12/22/stories/2010122258750100.htm
00:57 chris       :)
00:36 hudsonbot   Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to
00:36 hudsonbot   Project Koha_3.2.x build #64: STILL UNSTABLE in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/64/
00:34 chris_n     3.2.3 even
00:34 chris_n     heh
00:34 chris_n     scheduled release date for 2.2.3 is 2010-01-22, fwiw
00:33 richard     chris_n ++
00:32 chris_n     http://koha-community.org/koha-3-2-2/
00:22 ibot        3.2.2 is out... come and get some :-)
00:22 chris_n     3.2.2?
00:21 chris_n     http://download.koha-community.org/
00:21 chris_n     3.2.2 is out... come and get some :-)
00:14 hudsonbot   Starting build 64 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #54 15 days ago)
00:13 munin       New commit(s) kohagit32: Updating Version Number to <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eac7c17e9fc7c444b8fdfa8637f4a5e4047e3e82>