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23:37 druthb hi, chris!
23:35 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0ï¿½C (12:00 PM NZDT on December 18, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 18.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
23:35 chris @wunder wellington nz
23:35 munin chris: Error: No such location could be found.
23:35 chris @wunder upper hutt nz
23:32 * chris pops in from the car while the boys sleep
22:42 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -9.5ï¿½C (4:44 PM CST on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -12.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -10.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).
22:42 moodaepo @wunder 56001
21:44 jcamins Good night, #koha
21:19 cait bye all
21:19 cait bed time
21:10 cait yep, I have problems with some navigations in firefox
21:10 cait ah, on the page
21:10 cait the more the merrier? :)
21:10 * wizzyrea notes that it's getting crowded up there
21:09 cait mib_fwq1o: have you staged them and managed them afterwards? there are 2 steps for import from tools in koha.
21:09 wizzyrea heh
21:09 mib_fwq1o oh bother, i've just found the rebuild instructions on the faq, sorry about that guys. although i should note the faq wasn't the easiest to find on the site, perhaps a link on the top banner might be good?
21:06 jcamins mib_fwq1o: are the bib records showing up in your search results after importing?
21:05 cait hm. can you post an example line on paste.koha-community.org?
21:05 mib_fwq1o yes
21:04 cait do you have $a and $b fields with your branchcode?
21:03 cait if you don't get the items in, the problem is probably in your data
21:03 cait the bulk import exects the same data format
21:03 mib_fwq1o cait: yes
21:03 cait do you have your items in field 952?
21:02 mib_fwq1o could someone briefly explain to me the process to do a bulk marc import? i've tried using the stage marc records tool but it doesn't add any items (even though it says items were added)
20:08 owen ronald: Where are you located?
20:07 ronald log visor?
20:03 cait english?
20:02 cait do you use the en tempates?
20:01 ronald so, in koha-error.log, dnt shows nothind
20:00 ronald by in the opc not
20:00 ronald but in the intranet i can reserve
19:57 ronald no, any titles
19:57 cait what does koha-error.log say?
19:57 cait can you reserve other titles?
19:57 cait but something must have changed
19:56 ronald nop
19:56 ronald yes
19:55 cait have you changed something in the configuration?
19:55 cait has is it worked before?
19:54 ronald whats mean this error?
19:53 ronald but i cant now...because these koha is working in a university
19:51 owen ronald: By downloading the most up-to-date version of Koha from http://www.koha-community.org
19:51 ronald mmm...how?
19:49 owen ronald: Have you tried upgrading?
19:48 ronald by opac
19:48 ronald i try to do a reserve, but shows error 404
19:48 wizzyrea long story
19:48 wizzyrea since lunch yesterday
19:48 owen 24h?!
19:47 * wizzyrea wishes there had been martini's involved. I had the chance at beer but hadn't eaten for 24h so thought it might be best to avoid the booze :P
19:46 cait :)
19:46 cait I was awake!
19:46 ronald hi every....
19:46 * owen apologizes for waking cait
19:45 cait hm?
19:45 druthb heh
19:45 owen Looks like it was three-martini lunches for everyone.
17:13 paul_p thx, see you all on 27th, or maybe sooner for a small "hello" and a virtual greeting card ;-)
17:13 wizzyrea that is made of win, paul_p
17:13 wizzyrea paul_p: happy holidays! See you after!
17:13 * paul_p closed 14 customers questions/bugs today.
17:13 cait have a nice holiday paul_p
17:13 paul_p ok, time for ... ... holiday now !
17:11 jcamins hdl: but didn't this fix get into Master? It works fine for wizzyrea.
17:10 wizzyrea <3 hdl
17:10 wizzyrea not the point :/
17:10 wizzyrea aw
17:10 hdl wizzyrea: blame it on 3.0 Release Maintainer... who did his job without sending patches for master
17:09 ronald but in your koha, the renewall work fine?
17:04 * wizzyrea kind of remembers a very old bug for that, but was fixed in later 3.00.x versions
17:03 ronald i try the same day and not, and other day not
17:02 ronald not work in other days
17:01 owen ronald: Your Koha version is quite old, though, so you should think about upgrading
17:01 owen ronald: I can't reproduce your problem in a test installation of version 3.00.06.010 (renewing on the same day as checkout)
16:59 wizzyrea and the date shows up
16:59 wizzyrea example: I can renew an item on the same day from both circulation.pl and from moremember.pl
16:58 ronald i dont under...
16:58 ronald :s
16:58 wizzyrea what page are you renewing from? (Check Out, Details)
16:58 ronald in white
16:57 ronald yes
16:57 wizzyrea you say that the date due disappears when you try to renew?
16:56 wizzyrea ronald: I am not seeing your issue on my installation
16:56 wizzyrea (and an illuminating discovery)
16:56 wizzyrea one moment (my rules were wrong)
16:56 wizzyrea AHA
16:55 wizzyrea (but I might not be as fast as you would like an answer)
16:55 wizzyrea (I'm still working on it though)
16:55 ronald :s
16:55 ronald -.
16:53 wizzyrea ronald: I can't duplicate your issue, but I have several of my own, maybe someone else can test
16:52 cait :)
16:51 jcamins Ah-ha. Thank you.
16:51 cait sorry for bad translation
16:51 cait directory of coins and medals on sale from edmund Rappaport banking something and coins shop
16:50 cait yay
16:50 jcamins "Verzeichniss verkaeuflicher Muenzen und Medaillen von Edmund Rappaport Bankgeschaeft und Muenzenhandlung."
16:49 cait modern writing: verzeichnis
16:49 cait normally something like a directory
16:49 cait context?
16:49 cait uh
16:49 * druthb waves to cait, and the-being-formerly-known-as-trea.
16:48 jcamins Since you're here, what does "verzeichniss" mean?
16:48 drotsk right
16:48 cait trea is now drotsk?
16:47 cait hi jcamins, Brooke, liz and drotsk
16:47 ronald ah ok
16:47 wizzyrea ronald: i'm still checking
16:46 drotsk hi cait
16:46 ronald ??
16:46 jcamins Hello, cait.
16:43 Brooke hi :D
16:43 cait hi #koha
16:43 cait it's weekend :)
16:43 ronald 3.00.02.012
16:42 owen Doesn't 3.00.02.012 = 3.0.2 ?
16:41 wizzyrea or it's something else
16:41 wizzyrea i'm only saying that the server I'm checking on has patches beyond your version, so if it works in mine, then you might want the next version (due very soon) but if it doesn't it's likely a bug we'll need to report
16:41 ronald ??
16:41 wizzyrea no, just a minute
16:40 ronald i need a patches?
16:40 * Brooke laughs at ibot.
16:40 ibot :) you fix summat for someone else, you find your own problem that would have blissfully gone undetected. has neutral karma
16:40 Brooke karma :) You fix summat for someone else, you find your own problem that would have blissfully gone undetected.
16:39 wizzyrea lol the book I randomly picked has stupid rules and I have to fix it before I can test, sorry for the delay
16:36 wizzyrea though I'm probably a touch further down the line re: patches than you are
16:35 ronald ok
16:35 * wizzyrea can check that
16:35 ronald i not try in other days
16:35 ronald same day
16:35 ronald yes broke
16:33 ronald 3.00.02.012
16:33 * magnus wishes everyone a good weekend
16:33 Brooke hmm wonder if that only happens if you try and renew on the day you checked it out.
16:33 owen What version are you using?
16:33 ronald yes
16:32 owen ronald: After you renew a book it no longer has a due date?
16:32 ronald why?
16:32 ronald but this not generated a return date
16:31 ronald but i try renewall
16:31 ronald and this generated a return date
16:30 ronald well...i do a book loan
16:29 ronald i have a problem whit de renewalls
16:29 owen Ask away ronald
16:29 ronald hi, anybody can help me?
16:17 Brooke Janet Napolitano was a FORTRAN programmer.
16:15 druthb must......resist..... http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/12/16/1556213/Smithsonian-Celebrates-50-Years-of-COBOL?from=rss
16:11 Oak will watch 'The Town' tonight ... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0840361/
16:10 Oak not much
16:10 Brooke not much, you?
16:10 Oak what's up Brooke
16:09 Brooke o/
16:09 Oak \o
15:57 jcamins paul_p: I know. I'd be quite a precocious 15yo, wouldn't I?
15:57 paul_p jcamins: I was joking.
15:53 Brooke the secret is not to promise forever ;)
15:53 jcamins Same distribution, not same ages.
15:52 paul_p jcamins: really, you're 15 ? :D
15:52 paul_p Nate: about being terrified, there are 2 options : either you'll be terrified BEFORE [hey, i'll get married, am I mad or ?], or AFTER [hey, i'm married ! and it's forever...]. Personnally, it has been before, and it's much better I think ;-)
15:51 jcamins paul_p: about the same distribution between me and my brothers.
15:50 * jcamins is the oldest of four boys
15:50 paul_p jcamins: yep, we've 4 boys : 15, 10, 6, 3.5 years
15:46 jcamins paul_p: four sons?
15:44 Brooke see you Cait.
15:43 kf ok, starting weekend now :) - bye all!
15:43 Brooke S'il vous plaÃ®t
15:43 kf happy anniversary paul_p
15:42 paul_p Brooke: very dangerous: imagine I found her with another man :D :D [well, no danger in fact, she will be with 4 other men ... our 4 sons :D ]
15:42 owen Wow, I was just thinking about excavations at ancient nabratein meyers
15:41 jcamins Sorry about that.
15:41 jcamins Wrong window.
15:41 jcamins excavations at ancient nabratein meyers
15:38 Brooke Okay, but you don't *have* to get home early to surprise her. ;)
15:37 paul_p 4:40 PM Brooke, still 1 hour or 2 are OK ;-)
15:37 munin Nate: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is -2.1ï¿½C (10:39 AM EST on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -11.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -2.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising).
15:37 Nate @wunder 06516
15:37 Brooke not a jury in France would convict.
15:37 paul_p I wen to the restaurant for the lunch, while kids are at school ;-)
15:37 Brooke now get the hell off of IRC before she kills ye.
15:36 Brooke happy Anniversary paul.
15:36 Nate Congratulations!!!
15:36 nengard congrats paul_p!!
15:36 paul_p young boy ;-)
15:36 nengard freezing just a few states south of you :)
15:36 paul_p Nate: did you read that it's my wedding birthday today ? 16 years. You'll be almost 17 behind me :D
15:36 munin nengard: The current temperature in CWOP # AR939, Penndel, Pennsylvania is -1.8ï¿½C (10:38 AM EST on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -7.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -2.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady).
15:36 nengard @wunder 19030
15:36 Nate how's the weather across the pond?
15:36 paul_p hi Brooke nengard and al)
15:35 Nate Hiya paul_p
15:35 paul_p congrats for 9/10/11 !!!
15:35 Brooke bonjour paul.
15:35 paul_p hi Nate !
15:35 * Brooke laughs at drotsk
15:35 jcamins (actually, we went to a really nice Italian restaurant in Astoria)
15:35 * drotsk asks, does this handkerchief smell like chloroform to you?
15:34 * Brooke shivers.
15:34 Nate no the bride to be is way to far into teh planning stages to stop that train now
15:34 jcamins And you can go for Chinese food after!
15:34 Nate ooooh I can say, "honey lets get married in Manhattan"
15:33 Nate yeah but I would need to chloroform Libby and have her wake up getting married to sell that one
15:33 jcamins Nate: you're not far from NYC. The Manhattan marriage bureau is very classy. :)
15:32 * Brooke got married on the res and has never once regretted it.
15:32 nengard run away and elope - i so did not need the wedding day
15:31 Nate that's what terrifies me :)
15:31 drotsk awesome, it will be here before you know it
15:31 Nate seems a bit close...
15:31 Nate the big day is 9/10/11
15:30 nengard Hiya Nate and all
15:29 drotsk when's the big day Curulla?
15:29 drotsk o/
15:29 * Brooke waves to drotsk
15:29 Nate and everyone else out there :)
15:29 Nate and hello to you nengard!
15:28 Nate why hello jcamins!
15:28 jcamins Greetings, Nate and nengard
15:26 Nate Heya Brooke!
15:26 * Brooke slaps Nate on the back.
15:25 nengard i was bad - it's been 3 months since I read anything in my bugs folder - so it wouldn't have been so heroic if I had just done my job :)
15:24 nengard hehe
15:24 owen nengard++ # for heroic bug-wrangling
15:24 nengard hiya all
15:24 * Brooke waves at nengard
15:24 owen Hi nengard
15:24 wizzyrea and link to the list of all releases
15:23 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ I didn't see a reason to list anything other than current stable.
15:21 gmcharlt hi hdl
15:20 hdl hi gmcharlt
15:19 wizzyrea cool
15:17 gmcharlt wizzyrea: yes
15:17 wizzyrea gmcharlt is it safe to point the website to koha-latest.tar.gz, the symlink will get updated as new versions come out?
15:16 gmcharlt object-relational manager
15:14 jcamins I'm thinking that's probably not "Operations Research Management" in this context.
15:13 jcamins ORM?
15:03 * Brooke waves to sophie
15:01 owen Hi wizzyrea
14:57 wizzyrea well, to be fair, it's part 2
14:56 jcamins I loved mathnet!
14:56 Brooke heresy! They cut the intro!
14:55 wizzyrea it's slow, and it makes no sense, but it's germane, I swear
14:55 wizzyrea i loved this show when I was a kid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLhQfcZ-BWk
14:53 * druthb is astonished by the cleverness that is Google Labs' Body Browser. (Requires newest Chrome beta)
14:52 * wizzyrea laughed too
14:52 wizzyrea jcamins: lol
14:47 * Brooke thinks it's clearly not a genetic tree.
14:46 Brooke >.>
14:46 * druthb is a geek; she laughed at it.
14:46 * jcamins might be a geek... he laughed at today's xkcd.
14:39 * owen is relieved to find it is the result of a recent commit, not a long-standing undiscovered issue
14:39 druthb oh, my...
14:38 * Brooke trembles in fear at the sight of bug 5513
14:38 Brooke Ah!
14:37 druthb The formula at my house used to be doodads= boxen ^ 4, but I've weeded it down to a little better function.
14:37 Brooke nope, you have too many doodads.
14:37 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5513 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, staff client display all screwy if you don't have all permissions
14:37 * owen is horrified at the disaster that is Bug 5513
14:37 jcamins I think you meant doodads = boxen * 12
14:36 jcamins Brooke: that doesn't sound quite right.
14:35 Brooke If number of boxen = n then doodads = n + 12
14:35 * druthb lubs the container store.
14:35 * Brooke drools at the thought of the container store.
14:35 owen My house has half a dozen of those boxes and doo-dads are still everywhere
14:34 * druthb waves at jcamins.
14:34 druthb hm. It's about the right width...maybe it'd fit on a shelf in the bedroom. I could re-decorate it, and use it to capture all the hair doo-dads we girls can accumulate.
14:34 Brooke Good Morning, Mr. Camins.
14:33 jcamins Good morning, #koha
14:33 druthb The dimensions are kinda questionable for that.
14:32 owen Send it back in time 15 years to be a CD box?
14:31 druthb The bottom of it is not very sturdy...could use it to capture doodads in my workshop that end up scattered around.
14:30 druthb It's not-quite letter sized, or it'd make a nifty inbox.
14:27 Brooke give it to a children's Librarian
14:27 Brooke puppet stage, obviously.
14:27 * druthb ponders how to reuse/repurpose the little crate that the clementines came in.
14:24 owen Thanks gmcharlt
14:19 gmcharlt depends on how they handle their patches - if you were signing off one of mine, I wouldn't mind
14:19 gmcharlt but some contributors may prefer that you not do that so that they can merge back with the public repo more easily
14:18 gmcharlt for a minor typo fix, making the changing and signing off is OK
14:18 gmcharlt owen: six of one, half dozen of the other
14:17 owen Can I make the change and sign off at the same time? What is the proper procedure?
14:16 owen I'm trying to sign off on a patch, but I see a minor change I think should be made
13:30 kf hi wasabi :)
13:26 magnus hi wasabi
13:22 druthb hi, owen! :)
13:21 owen Hi #koha
13:20 * Brooke waves at own
13:12 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0ï¿½C (1:50 PM CET on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -8.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -10.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
13:12 magnus @wunder bodo norway
13:01 munin druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is -4.7ï¿½C (8:00 AM EST on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -10.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -5.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady).
13:01 druthb @wunder 20852
13:00 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.4ï¿½C (2:00 PM CET on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -3.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -4.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996.2 hPa (Steady).
13:00 kf @wunder Konstanz
12:55 druthb HarryH: sure thing...sorry I can't be more help with that!
12:55 HarryH druthb: thanks
12:52 magnus um, thanks? ;-)
12:52 kf magnus++
12:52 druthb Hrm. Keep checkin' with folks. It's early yet; usually in a couple or three hours, most of the US folks are on, and there might be someone with a better idea then.
12:51 HarryH druthb: after upgrading I have started the admin web. This ended with this error message
12:49 druthb Just guessin', but somewhere in settings is looking for an internet address, and not finding one. a Z39.50 target with no address in the box might do that, if it wasn't caught sooner than that.
12:48 druthb That error is pretty deep in the network layer, but perlmoks (http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=642313 ) suggests that it's looking for an IP address, and not getting one.
12:46 druthb HarryH: What were you doing just before that error?
12:44 * druthb pokes Brooke back.
12:43 Brooke curious, finger must have slipped.
12:43 * Brooke pokes druthb.
12:43 kf sorry HarryH- no idea. Perhaps try again a bit later if you don't get an answer now - people here change according to the time zones.
12:36 HarryH anyone know whats wrong?
12:36 HarryH Bad arg length for Socket::pack_sockaddr_in, length is 0, should be 4 at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/Socket.pm line 214.
12:36 HarryH We get the following error after upgrading from 3.0 to 3.2
12:18 * Brooke smiles at hdl
12:18 * hdl highfives Brooke
12:15 hdl Maybe we could have some kind of "abstraction" for that.
12:15 hdl Pls answer onlist and share ideas...
12:15 hdl But would like more feedback...
12:14 hdl tcohen: This is what I think too...
12:14 tcohen hdl: ++Controller
11:59 druthb :D
11:59 * Brooke highfives druthb
11:59 Brooke hehehe
11:59 kf hm. ok, ruth is here too, shoudl be a normal time for you then
11:59 Brooke I slept enough :)
11:58 kf :)
11:58 kf hi Brooke - still here?
11:58 * Brooke waves at kf
11:58 tcohen here at office i only have coffee, perhaps some green tea
11:58 kf hi #koha
11:58 tcohen yeees
11:57 * druthb gets tcohen a mug of hot chicken soup.
11:56 Brooke pfft
11:56 tcohen :-D
11:56 tcohen you'd be happy my flu want harm you on the distance
11:56 druthb hi, tcohen. :)
11:55 tcohen hi Brooke
11:55 * Brooke waves at tcohen
11:38 * druthb blinks, and waves back at Brooke.
11:38 * Brooke waves at Druthb
11:13 Brooke TÄ“nÄ koutou
11:09 paul_p magnus: in this case there is no business competition, just developers cooperation. But i agree it's++
10:57 magnus coopetition++ ;-)
10:34 hdl We really would enjoy working with you.
10:34 hdl anyway, we shal send you all the things we will work on...
10:34 hdl savitra: a quite important change that would occur also for us would be that there would be a list of persons allowed to USE (spend or engage) on budgets.
10:33 hdl savitra: so really it could be very interesting.
10:32 hdl savitra: Seeing all your RFCs, it would be quite the same scope that what we should work on.
10:16 savitra sure..
10:16 hdl Then a meeting at the beginning of the year
10:16 savitra all right..
10:16 hdl same for us.
10:16 hdl sounds good...
10:15 savitra I will send over our documentation by end of next week.
10:14 savitra yes..we can target to do that by end of year I think..
10:13 hdl And agree on how we share work.
10:12 hdl Posting all that on the wiki.
10:12 hdl So next action is : sending you our documentation. waiting for yours. commenting on that via email.
10:11 savitra I think you guys have much more experience with Koha..so we will probably defer to you on such things..
10:11 savitra overloading sounds ok to me..we will give it a try..
10:10 hdl feel free to comment
10:09 hdl But maybe it would be an over load in the process.
10:09 savitra hmm..ok, not a problem..
10:07 hdl I was thinking that since Template::Toolkit was to be used in 3.4 maybe any new additional page should try and use that.
10:06 savitra I guess we use html:template..
10:06 savitra on the template..
10:06 * hdl agrees
10:06 savitra we will send additional documentation as well.
10:05 savitra but I think useful to understand what is required..not necessarily how it work be designed on Koha..
10:05 savitra :>
10:05 hdl hehe...
10:05 savitra well, those are really screenshots from another LMS that is commonly used here..
10:04 hdl very nice.
10:04 savitra yes..sure..we have some mockups already..
10:04 hdl would you be able to share documentation too ?
10:02 hdl sounds good.
10:02 savitra and then we can work out scope of work for each side?
10:02 hdl I will send you that next week.
10:02 savitra I would like to see your documentation on this..
10:01 savitra ok..
10:00 hdl (actually, the work also is on the orders and basket searches... So is a little be more global than just adding Payment)
09:59 savitra April deadlines..
09:59 savitra so I think we will be ok with your March/
09:59 savitra the schedule is not fixed yet..there has been some delay from the client side..
09:58 savitra I was thinking more like 1.5 person-month total for this..
09:58 hdl and what is your schedule ?
09:57 hdl how many persons would be working on that from your side ?
09:57 savitra hmm..I did not see this project to be that big..
09:56 hdl Would you work on a Template::Toolkit base ? or HTML::Template ?
09:56 hdl But there are many parts to that.
09:55 hdl or April
09:55 hdl development is due for March.
09:55 hdl 1,5 person... for 3 months.
09:54 savitra how many people will work on this from your side?
09:54 savitra sure..sounds good..
09:54 hdl We could announce that on koha-devel, share work and ask for feed back from the community.
09:53 hdl Maybe we could sign off one an other... And add public remotes form oen another...
09:53 savitra bi-weekly sounds better, yes..
09:52 hdl bi-weekly then ?
09:52 savitra so we can have weekly meetings..but I may have to cancel sometimes..
09:52 savitra yes..weekly meetings may be a bit tough..all weeks..
09:52 hdl Would you be ok to have regular meetings around that... ?
09:51 savitra yes..sure..
09:51 savitra so no problems..we can share branches..
09:51 hdl So I think that we have much to gain to share work and views..
09:51 savitra yes it does..
09:51 hdl (which looks quite close to what you are to do)
09:51 savitra ah ok. all right that sounds the same..
09:50 hdl )
09:50 hdl (So as to get what has been paid.
09:50 hdl What StEtienne university ask is an Invoice management.
09:49 hdl savitra: I overlooked the RFC definition...
09:48 savitra our RFC is more about capturing information about payments that is made to the book seller..(cheque no. date, notes..)..
09:48 hdl If you see no objection to that, i think that we could share branches on git.koha-community.org and arrange weekly meetings.
09:48 savitra ok..I am looking at it..but it appears more about additional fees..
09:46 hdl We are writing the use cases and making mockups so that it would be clear as of what we engage to do.
09:45 savitra ok..let me take a look at that RFC..
09:45 hdl It kind of looks quite the same.
09:45 savitra I see..we expect to start in January as well..
09:45 hdl see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Invoice_management_RFC
09:45 hdl Our work on that will begin in January.
09:45 hdl I think that we should try and organize and maybe work in pair.
09:44 hdl your Payment process RFC covers much of what we are to do.
09:43 savitra sure..
09:43 hdl thanks
09:43 hdl found that.
09:41 savitra the RFCs are here: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Koha-3-4-RFCs-Acquisitions-Serials-and-SDI-td3049357.html
09:41 savitra so those processes are common here in India..all academic libraries follow them..
09:40 savitra sure..
09:40 hdl (just a moment so that I can grab the links)
09:39 hdl Very interesting.
09:39 hdl savitra: yes.
09:39 hdl hi jransom
09:39 jransom Hi hdl
09:39 savitra great..so I suppose you have seen the RFCs we had posted a while back..
09:38 hdl Yes it could be good time.
09:38 hdl Hi savitra.
09:38 Amit Hi hdl
09:38 savitra good time to talk about acq work?
09:37 savitra Hi Henri..
09:37 hdl how are you ?
09:37 hdl hi Amit
09:37 Amit Hdl around?
09:20 magnus congrats, paul_p!
09:16 jransom snap
09:16 jransom or you could take the day off and do something lovely with your wife
09:16 paul_p and go to the restaurant with my wife while boys are at school...
09:16 paul_p to celebrate that, I'll fix some bugs :D
09:16 jransom oh congratulations :)
09:16 * paul_p can't believe it... time passes so quickly !
09:15 paul_p jransom: i'm fine. today, it' my wedding birthday : 16 years married !
09:03 magnus nice!
09:03 jransom raining so hard leaving Levin couldn't see the raod - but notraining at the beach
09:02 jransom really hot and humid
09:02 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0ï¿½C (9:50 AM CET on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -8.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -8.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
09:02 magnus @wunder bodo, norway
09:02 magnus that's summery!
09:01 munin magnus: The current temperature in LEVIN, Levin, New Zealand is 19.3ï¿½C (10:04 PM NZDT on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 19.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady).
09:01 magnus @weather levin, nz
09:01 munin magnus: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0ï¿½C (9:00 PM NZDT on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 19.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
09:01 magnus @weather wellington, nz
09:01 munin magnus: Error: "wunder," is not a valid command.
09:01 magnus @wunder, wellington, nz
09:01 jransom how are you paul?
09:00 jransom we are really hot and muggy here
09:00 jransom snow - that would be lovely.
08:57 magnus paul_p: that's alot of snow! ;-)
08:57 magnus jransom: good to hear there is progress in the right direction!
08:55 paul_p we go to my family in law ... that is under 10-20 snow today. boys very excited ;-)
08:55 paul_p hi jransom. almost holida for me too ;-)
08:51 jransom shes pretty near human again
08:51 jransom 24 hours on an iv for fluids, [pain killers and anti-biotics.
08:51 jransom oh she is heaps better
08:49 magnus here's hoping your daughter gets well soon!
08:49 magnus ouch, sounds like you deserve some time off from work!
08:48 jransom so i'm feeling rushed and unfinished
08:48 jransom and spent 2 days away with my daughter at the hospital
08:48 jransom kind of - had a day from hell today
08:47 magnus lucky you!
08:47 magnus hehe, one week (and weekend) to go...
08:46 jransom how about you?
08:44 jransom last day today
08:36 magnus almost your xmas holiday?
08:35 jransom kia ora :)
08:35 magnus kia ora!
08:35 magnus hiya jransom
08:29 ivanc hiya magnus
08:18 magnus bonjour ivanc, paul_p and hdl
08:10 ivanc hi #koha
08:07 paul_p hello world. morning time in Europe !
07:52 magnus kia ora, #koha
06:44 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.6ï¿½C (7:45 AM CET on December 17, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -2.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -2.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.32 in 992.8 hPa (Falling).
06:44 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:28 Brooke cheers!
06:28 Brooke k *now* I'm finally sleepy a lil
06:24 cait :)
06:21 Brooke bah, late is in the eye of the beholder ;)
06:21 cait but late for you?
06:19 Brooke I've been in and out.
06:19 cait hi Brooke - still here?
06:19 Brooke_a morning hon
06:18 cait morning #koha
05:51 * Oak waves to the rest of channel
05:51 * Oak hugs Brooke_a
05:50 * Brooke_a waves to oak
05:35 eter ok
05:33 Brooke cheers
05:33 eter sleepy now catch you in about 8hrs
04:59 eter learnig perl and dnlding the movie as i type
04:57 Brooke you know not of what you wish.
04:57 eter lol
04:57 eter atter of fact you could be partner in crime
04:57 Brooke my pleasure.
04:57 Brooke :)
04:57 eter than you much
04:56 eter lol
04:48 Brooke am I satisfying your queries properly, or am I still a dastardly Reference Librarian?
04:35 Brooke http://www.archive.org/details/KohaAndOpacCustomizationWithOwenLeonard
04:35 Brooke watch this before ye muck about too much
04:31 Brooke hang on a tick.
04:30 eter how about themes for koha?
03:55 Brooke http://willmanley.com/2010/12/17/will-unwound-305-fantasy-friday-xmas-wishes-at-the-unwinders-tavern/#comment-21900
03:55 Brooke it is our civic duty to spam Will Manley's blog in case he's actually plopping down the 5k.
03:44 Brooke http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/02/perl_tutorial_for_beginners/
03:43 Brooke http://learn.perl.org/tutorials/
03:43 eter ok
03:42 Brooke lemme check mah bookmarks.
03:42 Brooke eww that's oldish now
03:42 Brooke http://www.dummies.com/store/product/Perl-For-Dummies-4th-Edition.productCd-0764537504.html
03:41 eter need simple dummy perl scripting guide
03:30 * chris_n has no regrets about stomping the 6 inch roaches, however
03:30 chris_n the gekos on guam were always shying into the door-jamb and getting smashed by accident
03:27 Brooke we have feelings too, Chris.
03:27 Brooke ow
03:27 * druthb stumbles out to bed.
03:27 * chris_n slams the door on a bunch of bugs
03:15 * Brooke smiles at Brendan
03:15 druthb :)
03:15 brendan_l heya druthb and Brooke
03:13 * Brooke waves back.
03:13 * druthb waves to Brooke.
03:10 * Brooke gasps.
03:04 * Brooke wishes Chris well
03:04 * chris wanders off to start the weekened
03:03 Brooke kia ora
03:02 eter now on to find where to modify the conf file....(scripts,vars)
02:57 eter ok
02:54 chris if you want bonus points, you can attach the patch to the bug also
02:53 chris and once you have done that, you're done :-)
02:53 eter sure did
02:52 chris (if it complains you dont have send-email .. apt-get install git-email)
02:51 eter ok
02:51 chris git send-email name-of-your.patch
02:51 chris then
02:51 chris you'll want to sign up here, so it doesnt hold your mail for moderation
02:51 robin silly ibot
02:51 ibot robin: i don't know
02:51 robin ibot: what now is <reply>Now \is the time for all good threads to block for I/O.
02:51 ibot robin: no idea
02:51 robin ibot: what now is <reply>Now is the time for all good threads to block for I/O.
02:50 chris http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-patches
02:50 chris the next step is to send it to the patches mailing list
02:50 chris if you want you can have a look at that file, check it looks ok
02:50 chris cool
02:50 eter did
02:49 chris git format-patch origin
02:49 chris excellent
02:49 eter did commit
02:41 chris separate
02:38 eter do i need to create a separate account for bugzilla or it will work with the one i just crreated for koha-community
02:35 eter oops never did the bug submission to get the bug id going to do that now
02:34 chris if you want to commit them both, then list both filenames
02:34 eter ok i did both ubuntu files commit in a sec
02:33 chris git commit filename
02:33 chris once that is done
02:27 eter ok
02:27 chris right you can edit the file now, and make your change, and save it
02:26 eter ok i did the docfix branch
02:25 eter ok so many branches for area/type of fix is the way then
02:25 chris you never want to do all your changes in one branch, you want a branch per topic
02:24 chris i wouldnt do that either
02:24 eter i see
02:24 eter ok well i'll do over and call it ybeddyj
02:24 chris i usually call my branches something that means something
02:24 chris its just a suggestion
02:24 chris you can change mywork to whatever you want
02:23 eter i had started doing it form the wiki
02:23 chris unless you want to call your branch mywork
02:23 chris instead of
02:23 eter should i do this before " git checkout -b mywork origin"?
02:22 chris or some name that makes sense to you
02:22 chris git checkout -b documentation_fixes
02:22 eter ok tell me about it ...going on to that section now
02:21 chris probably you will want to create a branch to work in too
02:20 chris right now we are ready to edit that file
02:16 eter git cloned
02:08 chris in that case, yep
02:08 eter its cloned on the server but i'm now settingup on my latop
02:08 chris if you have
02:08 chris only if you havent cloned it already
02:07 eter chris,
02:07 eter chilts,
02:07 eter finish setting parameters should i go on to the repo clone?
02:01 eter i've used it for installing only koha
02:01 chris once you have set up those parameters, let me know
02:01 eter but also wanting to kep track of the convo
02:00 eter actually newbie/ybeddyj using the xchat instead of the mbit thingy
02:00 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Fill_some_parameters
02:00 chris if you havent on that machine you probably need to do thsi first
01:59 chris have you used git before at all?
01:59 chris ok
01:59 eter yes
01:58 chris eter: you want me to walk you through making a patch and submitting it? :)
01:58 ybeddyj still trying to cram all the details...newbie stresses lol
01:58 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#See_changes_.27origin.27_Git_repo_from_your_branch
01:58 chris specifically
01:58 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
01:57 chris have you read the wiki page about working with git?
01:57 chris ybeddyj: well you should never have to do another clone ... after your initial one ;)
01:56 ybeddyj chris: yes i'm refering to after an already initial running system...my bad no pointing that out
01:56 eter git
01:56 chris if you have git, you could do a patch for that right now
01:55 chris eter: did you install from git or tarball?
01:55 eter install.ubuntu
01:54 chris yep, but which ubuntu one :)
01:54 eter im ure of the ubuntu one i think the pub/scm part needs to go
01:54 chris ybeddyj: usually you do the git clone first, then install
01:53 chris we have too many of them im afraid ;)
01:53 chris which readme?
01:52 eter oh by the way the readme needs this tiny adjustment "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/pub/scm/koha.git kohaclone"
01:50 ybeddyj ok great, so if i get it correctly after already installed. if i do the git clone part then "git checkout -b myinstall origin" i should then proceed to the admin login page?
01:45 chris http://debian.koha-community.org/
01:45 chris or use the packages
01:44 wasabi thats the best way to upgrade
01:44 wasabi then a DB upgrade will happen, on the next admin login
01:43 wasabi the use git to update your code-base
01:42 wasabi start with the install first
01:41 ybeddyj by the way i'm new to this whole thingy, i wondered if there is a way to do an upgrade versus an install
01:34 wasabi oops , http://bugs.koha-community.org
01:34 wasabi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/
01:33 chris yup
01:33 ybeddyj checking link wasabi
01:33 ybeddyj would that be ok chris?
01:32 wasabi http://koha-community.org/get-involved/for-developers/
01:32 ybeddyj i dont know anything about perl but i'm going to look to find where to add that and try to submit code as is necessary
01:31 ybeddyj i would love if this could be added to the conf file when standard installation is selected
01:30 ybeddyj then for each virtualhost section i added the following " <Directory /usr/share/koha/opac> Options FollowSymLinks AllowOverride All Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory>"
01:28 ybeddyj personally i put this at the top before the first virtual host section "<Directory /usr/share/koha> AllowOverride None Order Deny,Allow Deny from all </Directory>"
01:27 ybeddyj also i would like if the config section sets the directory permissions in the koha-httpd.conf file
01:26 chris having an option wouldnt hurt though
01:25 ybeddyj ok i see
01:25 chris round 2003
01:25 chris it changed to ports
01:25 chris when it was first written that was the default
01:25 ybeddyj i was thinking of adding a block that one could optionally decide to configure that will allow us to set things like the servername ports etc
01:25 chris usually the people who can set up namedhosts can edit the conf file :-) but it wouldnt hurt to have it option
01:24 chris the default is ports for those who dont have access/skills to run dns
01:23 chris most people run named hosts
01:23 ybeddyj i currently control the webhost that the package will be installed on also it uses namedvirtualhost and i wanted to suggest a modification/addition to the configuration section of the installation
01:21 chris so much prefer time/documentation/code
01:21 chris we have no real way to collect/use monetary donations
01:20 ybeddyj well that too i want to address
01:20 chris fixing bugs is the best way to do that
01:19 ybeddyj i also want to send some donations to the way of the community as soon as a get paid for this job
01:19 ybeddyj so now i'm installing from your git and just about configuring
01:18 ybeddyj unfortunately it wasnt until i was reading some blog somewhere that i came upon the undesired but unavoidable switch
01:17 robin yeah, www.koha-community.org is where you want to start
01:16 ybeddyj but i realize that the copy i installed from koha.org git wasnt the community so i'm backing away from it getting a "proper" copy
01:15 ybeddyj well truth is i did a little bit already
01:15 robin wasabi: it's past 2 in the afternoon, time to stop sleeping.
01:14 robin ybeddyj: yay! :)
01:14 ybeddyj i want to change that asap
01:14 ybeddyj well i live in jamaica and i noticed that you guys have a list of install bases and jamaica isnt on it
01:13 ybeddyj lol
01:13 wasabi yes, i am sleeping
01:12 ybeddyj are you guys sleeping?
01:12 ybeddyj Hello
01:12 ybeddyj hey
01:08 munin brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.9ï¿½C (5:06 PM PST on December 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 9.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Rising).
01:08 brendan_l @wunder 93117